Outdated British armored personnel carriers entered service with the “presidential” brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Old British armored personnel carriers delivered to Ukraine are used not only by territorial defense units supplied on a residual basis. As it turned out, a batch of FV432 armored personnel carriers entered service with the so-called Separate “Presidential Brigade” named after. Bohdan Khmelnitsky, subordinate directly to Zelensky.

At the beginning of this month, photographs taken in this very “presidential brigade” appeared on Russian and Ukrainian resources. They clearly show that the military personnel are using British FV432 armored personnel carriers. As it turned out, a certain amount of this armored vehicle entered service with the 22nd special forces battalion from the brigade.

The British armored personnel carrier FV432 was produced from 1962 to 1971, i.e. the last cars rolled off the assembly line approximately 52 years ago. It has been removed from service with the British Army and some are in storage. At the beginning of this year, former British Defense Minister Ben Wallace promised the delivery of FV432 armored personnel carriers to Kyiv, but they never reached Ukraine.

In September of this year, Ukrainian volunteers purchased 13 such armored personnel carriers for the territorial defense forces, after which they painted them and handed them over to TRO. However, judging by the pixel coloring, the presidential brigade's equipment clearly comes from a different source, although there have been no official reports about this.

The FV432 Bulldog tracked armored personnel carrier is an improved version of the FV430 armored personnel carrier, created specifically for British units in Iraq. Combat weight 13 tons. Crew 2 people + landing party 10 people. Maximum speed - 52 km/h, range - 590 km (on the highway), fuel reserve - 454 liters per 590 km. Armament - one 7,62 mm machine gun, smoke installation system.

Comments

[Constantine N]

They drive, they have armor. better than nothing

[Uprun]

To open a “tin can”, “Utes” will be enough, KPVT - right through. Yes, things did, and they also turned up their noses at the Spanish mortars of 1939.

[Escariot]

Quote from uprun

To open a “tin can”, “Utes” will be enough, KPVT - right through. Yes, things did, and they also turned up their noses at the Spanish mortars of 1939.

Well, the MT-LB and BTR-80 with armor are not much better.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Well, the MT-LB and BTR-80 with armor are not much better.

.... with these MTBs everything is fine... but this tin can is disposable... if they don’t fix it, it will break and there is no repair kit... the only thing is that the mechanics of these PVs are very lucky... if they send it to the front end, it’s not difficult to break it but there’s nothing to fix it with... something like this

[Escariot]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

Well, the MT-LB and BTR-80 with armor are not much better.

.... with these MTBs everything is fine... but this tin can is disposable... if they don’t fix it, it will break and there is no repair kit... the only thing is that the mechanics of these PVs are very lucky... if they send it to the front end, it’s not difficult to break it but there’s nothing to fix it with... something like this

Let's compare the armor characteristics: MT-LB 14mm in the forehead, Bulldog 13mm, BTR-80 10mm. What, they also have bad armor?
They have a repair kit. Logistics as a science has advanced greatly since the Second World War, and the delivery of consolidated cargo and warehouse management is now at a completely different level. And instructions for their repair are in an accessible form. And the fact that the MT-LB from the same gray years and even the “time-tested” BTR-50 are coming to us does not bother you at all, as a true patriot. All God's dew.

[Asad]

Anything is better than a loaf, this rarity will save even a light UAV from a bullet.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Ukrainians will soon switch to armored vehicles. This is especially close to them, as farmers.

[lukash66]

It’s strange, the “presidential brigade” is also named after Khmelnitsky. But it’s okay that he bowed to the Russian Tsar with a request to accept the outskirts as citizenship, in fact he handed over a lot to the damned Muscovites.))))

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote from: lukash66

It’s strange, the “presidential brigade” is also named after Khmelnitsky. But it’s okay that he bowed to the Russian Tsar with a request to accept the outskirts as citizenship, in fact he handed over a lot to the damned Muscovites.))))

Actually, the agreement was about accepting vassalage while maintaining full internal autonomy, as well as maintaining our own armed forces.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C%D0%B8

[lukash66]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote from: lukash66

It’s strange, the “presidential brigade” is also named after Khmelnitsky. But it’s okay that he bowed to the Russian Tsar with a request to accept the outskirts as citizenship, in fact he handed over a lot to the damned Muscovites.))))

Actually, the agreement was about accepting vassalage while maintaining full internal autonomy, as well as maintaining our own armed forces.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C%D0%B8

Does this really change anything fundamentally? Did you go to bow? Walked. He handed over Nenko to the Russian Tsar and that’s a fact. And a little later, the Cossacks on Khortitsa were eventually dispersed and the freemen were kaput. As if we also had and still have autonomies in the USSR and the Russian Federation. And what? They are not part of the state?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote from: lukash66

Does this really change anything fundamentally? Did you go to bow? Walked. He handed over Nenko to the Russian Tsar and that’s a fact. And a little later, the Cossacks on Khortitsa were eventually dispersed and the freemen were kaput.

Of course it changes. According to the agreement, the Hetmanate retained all the rights of an independent subject of international law, including international relations and the presence of its own army. The fact that during the wars with Poland, Sweden and the Ottoman Empire and Russia, the military-political elite of the Hetmanate split into several camps, which led to the unilateral abolition of these articles by the Moscow government is a common historical fact. The same thing happened in the Czech Republic and Moravia during the 30th war. But nevertheless, the Hetmanate, as an autonomous entity, existed on the territory of the Republic of Ingushetia until the end of the 18th century.

[Myths]

According to the agreement, they also swore allegiance to Russia in exchange for protection from the Poles. All this is empty for the history of the USA and England...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

And who didn’t the long-haired people “swear” “eternal friendship and devotion”?

[Huarabey]

Now it would be nice to cite Wikipedia, which is being rewritten to please Ukraine and where the real founders of “Ukrainian” cities are removed from the text, as evidence.

[Escariot]

Quote from: lukash66

It’s strange, the “presidential brigade” is also named after Khmelnitsky. But it’s okay that he bowed to the Russian Tsar with a request to accept the outskirts as citizenship, in fact he handed over a lot to the damned Muscovites.))))

So maybe not Bogdan Khmelnytsky but Yuri Khmelnytsky, who was four times hetman of the Zaporozhye army

[rotmistr60]

batch of FV432 armored personnel carriers entered service with the so-called Separate "Presidential Brigade"

It doesn’t matter that they are old, the main thing is that they are British, and this obviously warms the soul of the henchman. It’s probably more honorable to die on such people.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

“A batch of FV432 armored personnel carriers entered service with the so-called Separate “Presidential Brigade” named after. Bohdan Khmelnytsky, subordinate directly to Zelensky" -

***
— Until now, the “presidential brigade” has not been renamed into the brigade named after. Mazepa?
- The “foreman” didn’t finish watching...

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[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
- “We want for ourselves such an autocrat, a master in our land, as your royal mercy, the Orthodox Christian king... We humbly surrender to the merciful feet of your royal majesty”...
---
“To your royal majesty, the lowest servants Bogdan Khmelnitsky,
hetman with the army of Zaporozhye"
November 1648, XNUMX
***

[Sedov]

***
- “We want for ourselves such an autocrat, a master in our land, as your royal mercy, the Orthodox Christian king... We humbly surrender to the merciful feet of your royal majesty”...
---
“To your royal majesty, the lowest servants Bogdan Khmelnitsky,
hetman with the army of Zaporozhye"
November 1648, XNUMX
***

A nightmare of the Ukrainian junta, but apparently you still have to learn the text)

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Sedov

A nightmare of the Ukrainian junta, but apparently you still have to learn the text)

There is no need to project history onto today.

[storm]

"We want such an autocrat, a master in our land, like your royal mercy, an Orthodox Christian tsar ... We humbly surrender to the merciful feet of your royal majesty" ...

In Russia there has been no Orthodox tsar for more than a hundred years, and those that exist are in the service of the Jewish oligarchs.....

[APASUS]

A batch of FV432 armored personnel carriers entered service with the so-called Separate “Presidential Brigade” named after. Bohdan Khmelnytsky,

Now, if Hungary or Slovakia handed over the BTR-60 to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, it would suck. And if Great Britain itself......................

[Nexcom]

Soon the Matildas will be in use. If found in storage.
And the cars handed over are the same age as me, they are no less than 53 years old.....
The BTR-60 is “not Moskal’s zbroya,” but the FV432 is “very good,” “classic armored personnel carrier” (c) must be understood.

[bear cub]

The most important task of such equipment is to deliver soldiers to a place from where they can conduct combat operations, providing, if possible, protection from fire from the main weapons. As long as the car does the job, it doesn't matter if it's 5, 20 or 50 years old. This applies to both our technology and Western technology. If the soldier survived because the vehicle stopped firing from the main weapon, then it fulfilled its task, I don’t see anything funny in that.

[APASUS]

Quote: Little Bear

The most important task of such equipment is to deliver soldiers to a place from where they can conduct combat operations,

Have you reached the battlefield and are heading towards the enemy?
Ha ha ha
the main purpose of which is fire support and transportation of personnel of the rifle squad (infantry) to the place of execution of the combat mission with the ability of the landing force to conduct fire combat from the vehicle, increasing its mobility and security on the battlefield in conditions of the enemy using nuclear weapons and for joint actions with tanks in battle

[rocket757]

Outdated British armored personnel carriers entered service with the “presidential” brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

. It's like a freebie. There is nothing more to discuss, because any foreign technology is firewood for the fire of war. Everything will burn, quite quickly.

[seamen2]

*for service with the so-called Separate “Presidential Brigade” named after. Bohdan Khmelnitsky, reporting directly to Zelensky.*
And this is the *Life Standard of Adolf Hitler* - its Ukrainian equivalent.

[Fitter65]

Old British armored personnel carriers delivered to Ukraine... ... The FV432 armored personnel carrier entered service with the so-called Separate "Presidential Brigade" named after. Bohdan Khmelnitsky, subordinate directly to Zelensky.

Well, they're not that old

The British armored personnel carrier FV432 was produced from 1962 to 1971, i.e. the last cars rolled off the assembly line approximately 52 years ago.

Almost just yesterday from the assembly line. when will they start supplying banderlogs with such things

Then we’ll talk about a little - “Outdated British armored personnel carriers.”

[hashmaster]

If this is the Mark 3 version, then the armor is quite good, they added armor in the forehead and anti-cumulative shields.
Ultimately, the armor is better than that of the BTR80/82, BMP-1/2 and MTLB.

This is what the MK3 version looks like