Head of the Bundestag Defense Committee: It is necessary to supply Taurus missiles to Ukraine, it has the right to attack military targets on Russian territory

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Head of the Bundestag Defense Committee: It is necessary to supply Taurus missiles to Ukraine, it has the right to attack military targets on Russian territory

The discussion continues in Germany about whether or not to supply Taurus long-range missiles to Ukraine. Earlier, a material appeared in the American press claiming that the statement made on behalf of Joe Biden about the supply of “a small batch of ATACMS missiles” to Kiev is nothing more than an attempt to push Germany to supply its long-range missiles. To date, according to official data, the decision to supply Taurus to Kyiv has not been made. Accordingly, the United States decided to involve its “sixes” so that the Scholz government would still decide on such supplies as was the case with tanks leopard.

Thus, the chairman of the Bundestag Defense Committee, Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmermann, directly stated that Ukraine “needs to supply Taurus missiles without delay.”



Moreover, the German legislator announced “Ukraine’s full right to strike targets on Russian territory with these missiles.”

Strack-Zimmerman:

Ukraine, with the help of our missiles, can significantly disrupt the supply of Russian troops. We must supply such missiles. Ukraine has all the rights consistent with international law to attack Russian military targets, including on Russian territory.

Strack-Zimmerman added that “there is no fundamental difference in where and by whom it is produced.” weapon».

German parliamentarian:

It is important for us to maintain support for Ukraine. If not for our support, Russia would have destroyed Ukraine long ago. Therefore, we must continue to provide support in the future.
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  1. +11
    30 September 2023 13: 19
    When calibers arrive at her house, she will sing differently. Women have always been without brains. They don't think about the consequences
    1. +14
      30 September 2023 13: 21
      Quote: pexotinec
      When calibers arrive at her house, she will sing differently. Women have always been without brains. They don't think about the consequences

      She's just confident in her impunity. I'm sure nothing will fly to them. And it won’t arrive.
      1. +5
        30 September 2023 13: 24
        But this is where she is definitely wrong... Russia is patient, but every patience has its limit...
        We forgave Europe in forty-five,
        For being in the forty-first to our home
        She came with a terrible and bloody,
        Cruel, damned war...
        We could then tear off three skins from them,
        For the sacrifices that Russia has suffered,
        But they regretted that you would take, they say, with foolishness,
        Who followed Hitler...
        Or maybe in vain, we felt sorry for her -
        As you can see, it did not go well for her ...
        Europe is now insolent again,
        Forgetting about the lesson given to her then ...
        Nazism forgotten infection
        Over the world, as if darkness rises again,
        Letting metastases across Ukraine,
        It does not allow peoples to live in peace ...
        But I believe we will overcome everything
        And the sky will become clear again
        Great Russia, becoming stronger,
        Nazism will turn his head again!!!
        1. 0
          30 September 2023 14: 01
          Quote: Lev_Russia
          But I believe we will overcome everything,
          And the sky will become clear again.
          Great Russia, becoming stronger,
          Nazism will turn its head again!!!

          good
          Sorry, but I will note:
      2. -7
        30 September 2023 13: 49
        Of course it won't arrive. It has already been said a million times, both during the Soviet era and today, that we will not be the first to start a war with NATO. But if they start, then we will respond. The West is furious because Russia cannot give them a reason. This explains the reasons for the appearance of such aggressive loudmouths who openly declare that they can do whatever they want and nothing will happen to them for it. They don't like calm Russia. They want to make you angry, for rash movements. And the fact that Russia is not falling for all this rotten stuff is correct.
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        2. 0
          30 September 2023 23: 52
          Quote: Warabey
          Of course it won't arrive. It has already been said a million times, both during the USSR and today, that we will not be the first to start a war

          In fact, it was Russia that started the SVO as a preventive measure.
          Quote: Warabey
          with NATO

          And at the moment of making and voting for that decision, one of the security ministers (I remember it was the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs) said: “We must tell our citizens that this is a war not with Ukraine, but with NATO on the territory of Ukraine.”
          Oops feel And the war has been going on for a long time. bully Therefore, the worst is yet to come. They will supply Kyiv with missiles and planes with pilots. Already this fall, everything can fly to Russia itself.
          Germany?
          She is not subjective. Therefore, they will deliver whatever they are told to do. There are now such liverwursts at the forefront that the last trousers of the burghers will be pulled down for the sake of causing pain to Russia.
          And therefore all of Europe will endure PAIN.
          The pain will be terrible, but short-lived. For the survivors, Suffering will remain a consolation.
          There will be no England.
          Absolutely.
          No one.
          And the USA too.
          Why do we need this world?
          Our world will be better.
          He will be wonderful.
          And there will be absolutely no sodomites in it.
          All sodomites will disappear into ashes, glass and compost.

          The United States still has a very weak chance to jump - leave Europe and switch to China... a lot of exciting things await them there, but there is a chance.
          Europe's chances of avoiding the terrible... are negligible... maybe in the region of 3 - 5%... But its elites have rotten brains.
          Neighbor Europe has no chance.
          Absolutely.
          It will be so.
    2. +5
      30 September 2023 13: 37
      With her last name - “Zimmerman” - a rocket into the house, not the biggest evil. In the time of Adik Schickelgruver, with such a surname, you wouldn’t get further than the crematorium.
      1. 0
        30 September 2023 18: 28
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        With her last name - "Zimmerman"

        Someone here said a few months ago that the name “Struck-Zimmermann” reminded him of the sound of a tank engine starting up... laughing
    3. 0
      30 September 2023 13: 52
      And we will arrange a “terrible trick” in Europe - when there are abnormal colds there, we will sell them a large batch of gas at a discount!
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      1. 0
        1 October 2023 06: 13
        Learn Russian, female dog! You can bark on your Deutsch forums!
      2. 0
        1 October 2023 20: 40
        Befindet sich Russland im Krieg mit Deutschland?

        Sho ???
  2. +6
    30 September 2023 13: 20
    Head of the Bundestag Defense Committee: It is necessary to supply Taurus missiles to Ukraine, it has the right to attack military targets on Russian territory
    . Women officials, in the government, they have the most rabid... although the idiots are no better.
  3. +2
    30 September 2023 13: 21
    I think in the case of negotiations there should be a point that such citizens should leave Western governments. It is advisable that after this they go to Russian colonies
  4. +4
    30 September 2023 13: 22
    Interestingly, our prosecutor’s office (military) is counting the damage caused by Western weapons to our cities, people, etc. I would like the amount to be made available to the public periodically.
    1. -2
      30 September 2023 15: 45
      For such words, you can put your party card on the table!
  5. +1
    30 September 2023 13: 25
    It's time to test the SB, first on Snake.
    1. 0
      30 September 2023 16: 45
      It's time to return the island to its historical Name: Fidonisi
  6. +6
    30 September 2023 13: 28
    I’m wondering, if a couple of Russian missiles were to fly from some, so-called Honduras, across Germany, would it also not matter where and by whom they were produced? Or will the question of what weapon and who can be trusted then arise? Do they teach hypocrisy at universities there?
    1. +1
      30 September 2023 14: 29
      How to persuade Honduras to throw missiles at Berlin?
      First we need to convince the Germans that they can denazify Honduras in three days, and persuade them to annex part of Honduras to Germany.
      Then the people of Honduras will enthusiastically begin firing Russian missiles at Germany.
      1. 0
        30 September 2023 17: 07
        Dadada... If Honduras had originally been part of the territory of Germany (and the word - Honduras was simply the name of one of the territories of Germany), which would have given it independence, on the condition of maintaining neutrality in the future, it would suddenly begin to cultivate hatred of the Germans and began to strive to become Russia's allies by joining some military, Russian bloc, then do not even doubt that now only ashes would remain from Honduras, after all of NATO would have fallen on it in its entirety.
        1. +2
          30 September 2023 17: 57
          Russia and 404 are the names of two territories of the USSR. I don’t think that the USSR gave independence to its SSRs, especially on any terms. Russia and 404 simply took this independence themselves.

          404 was actually neutral until the loss of Crimea. The fact that later it ceased to be neutral is quite natural.

          Thus - I see Russia's bad foreign policy in the past and present. Meanwhile, Russia is moving towards dependence on China - Russia will become China's Belarus.

          Russia rightly abandoned after 1991 the path of wealth combined with US citizenship, in the style of Germany after 1945. Unfortunately, Russia has chosen an even worse path.
          1. 0
            30 September 2023 19: 25
            Ukraine has always been a toponym in Russia, like the Urals, Siberia, Chukotka and so on. The Bolsheviks made it a republic. And she was given sovereignty only on the terms of her neutrality and non-alignment. Under other conditions, Ukraine would not exist as an independent state.

            It was not neutral until the loss of Crimea. There, Russophobic sentiments were already fueled with a certain calculation. That is why they lost Crimea, because Russia understood what was going on. You are confusing cause with effect. It was not Ukraine that began to treat Russia poorly because it lost Crimea, but it lost Crimea because it had been planning to join NATO ever since.

            We'll see what Russia will become. But what Ukraine has become can already be seen now.

            p.s. And you see not Russia’s “bad policy,” but what they want to convince you about its policy.
            1. -1
              30 September 2023 21: 30
              If you recognize Ukraine in 1991 in its borders, including Crimea, and 30 years later you start saying something about a toponym, then you become ridiculous... unless you have the ability to drown out laughter with military or economic force, which Russia does not have .

              Support for Ukraine's entry into NATO: 2013 - maximum 20%, 2014 - maximum 53%, 2022 - maximum 83%, 2023 - maximum 89%.
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Popular_support_to_NATO_integration_of_Ukraine_in_Ukraine
              1. 0
                1 October 2023 13: 21

                If you recognize Ukraine in 1991 within its borders, including Crimea, and 30 years later you start saying something about a toponym,


                Recognized under what conditions? So that unconditionally, no one has ever recognized her.
                1. -2
                  1 October 2023 19: 24
                  Where is the treaty that states that under certain conditions the territory of 404 is a toponym for Russia?

                  I repeat: you can make such statements if you have the appropriate power, military or economic. Russia has neither one nor the other.

                  I know of three cases after 1945:
                  Annexation of Tibet by China. China defended it.
                  Annexation of Kuwait by Iraq. Saddam became funny.
                  Annexation of 404 by Russia...
    2. KCA
      +1
      30 September 2023 15: 00
      The missile defense system, both for us and for the Amers, detects the launch flares of ballistic missiles, and where the missiles came from will be known before they fall on the target, another thing is that the operating time of the engines of ICBMs, RMDs and RSDs is different, so Iskanders and Daggers fly calmly, but about the launch ICBMs we and the Americans warn each other in advance, indicating the flight path, but with the Zircon it’s not clear, it’s a cruise missile and the torch may be similar to the launch of the Caliber
  7. +1
    30 September 2023 13: 31
    Interesting! Does Russia have the right to attack and strike suppliers of missiles and other weapons?
    1. +11
      30 September 2023 13: 35
      Oh, well, it's simple. In the modern world, if you are strong enough, then you have the right, no, no.

      If you fire a rocket at the Rheinmetal, and then add that if they rock the boat, we’ll glaze Berlin, then we have it. If you are not ready for this, then no.
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        1. 0
          1 October 2023 06: 18
          Go tell the Americans this, moron!
        2. 0
          1 October 2023 20: 44
          Solche Drohungen zerstören das fragile Gleichgewicht der ultimativen Kräfte

          So what? And what should I tell you?
    2. +2
      30 September 2023 13: 38
      Quote from Eugene Zaboy
      Interesting! Does Russia have the right to attack and strike suppliers of missiles and other weapons?

      The same as all others - for all suppliers around the world.
      For this purpose, all those RMSD, dovshy and other conventions - which bye-bye
  8. HAM
    +6
    30 September 2023 13: 37
    "Russia, with the help of its missiles, can significantly disrupt the supply of Ukrainian troops. Russia has every right under international law to attack German military installations, including on German territory."
    [i][/i]What will this idiot say to such a statement? Here only a few words are rearranged, and she will say that Germany is being threatened... although these are entirely her words...
    1. +1
      30 September 2023 13: 51
      Quote: HAM
      "Russia, with the help of its missiles, can significantly disrupt the supply of Ukrainian troops. Russia has every right under international law to attack German military installations, including on German territory."
      [i][/i]What will this idiot say to such a statement? Here only a few words are rearranged, and she will say that Germany is being threatened... although these are entirely her words...

      To do this, first war, stupidly, must be declared
      1. HAM
        0
        30 September 2023 14: 18
        There will be no need to declare any war... Although Khrushchev did a lot of bad things for the Union, his tricks with "boots" turned out to be more intelligible and convincing for some than the work of the entire Foreign Ministry... and when there is no idea whether it is a bluff or the truth, the brain will inevitably turn on and the instinct of self-preservation..
  9. +6
    30 September 2023 13: 39
    Then Russia should deliver Satan to S. Korea and Iran, they have the right to attack the USA and Germany.
    1. -7
      30 September 2023 13: 53
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      Then Russia should deliver Satan to S. Korea and Iran, they have the right to attack the USA and Germany.

      But after he flies from Germany to Iran
  10. +1
    30 September 2023 13: 43
    Head of the Bundestag Defense Committee: It is necessary to supply Taurus missiles to Ukraine, it has the right to attack military targets on Russian territory

    German citizens! Hang him yourself, by God it will be cheaper than if Russia, in response to his remarks, takes up the solution of this issue!
    Such Bundesites should be kept in a mental home so as not to start wars between states. The damage will be thousands of times greater than the cost of replacing such “boisnapartes”. fellow Yes laughing
  11. +1
    30 September 2023 13: 45
    Head of the Bundestag Defense Committee: We need to supply Taurus missiles to Ukraine, it has the right to attack military targets on Russian territory

    The country went through this option in 1941, when fascist Germany gathered all European scum under its banner.
    I think it’s time for Germany to make a statement that Russia also has the right to attack military targets on German territory, because such statements by the head of the Bundestag committee are the official point of view of the German authorities...
    Either let them keep their mouths shut, or let them be in charge of the market...
    By the way, what did GDP say about terrorists?
    1. -1
      30 September 2023 14: 14
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Head of the Bundestag Defense Committee: We need to supply Taurus missiles to Ukraine, it has the right to attack military targets on Russian territory

      The country went through this option in 1941, when fascist Germany gathered all European scum under its banner.

      Not all of it. The arrogant Saxons not only did not come to Russia, but also actively helped fight these fascists. Those bastards
      1. 0
        1 October 2023 06: 21
        They started fighting when they got hit on the nose!
  12. 0
    30 September 2023 13: 52
    Well, God forbid that Ukraine gets hit by a nuclear power plant. Russia will start hitting Germany with nuclear missiles at warehouses
    Russia has missiles and I think Russia keeps missile warehouses in case of war with the West
    I think they won't break anything, at least. It’s just that Russia has not yet given the order to move forward.
    Recently, aviation has also begun to work, so there will be a breakthrough soon.
    1. -1
      1 October 2023 20: 47
      Russia will start hitting Germany with nuclear missiles at warehouses

      Do those sitting above have eggs????
  13. +3
    30 September 2023 13: 56
    I think that she is under the control of the Americans, so she sings what she is ordered to do. There are a majority of them in the government,
  14. +3
    30 September 2023 13: 59
    The transfer of such weapons will require the presence of German ichtamnets in the theater of operations. This is another round of escalation. That is, the likelihood of nuclear war increases. And this increase has limits, after which there will be no rewinding.
    1. 0
      30 September 2023 20: 30
      Quote: Roma-1977
      The transfer of such weapons will require the presence of German ichtamnets in the theater of operations. This is another round of escalation. That is, the likelihood of nuclear war increases. And this increase has limits, after which there will be no rewinding.

      The presence of ichtamnets is the norm rather than the exception. And how many times has this happened, but the last time McCarthur spoke seriously about a nuclear war because of them was when he wanted to hit the Chinese volunteers. True, Eisenhower immediately besieged him.
  15. 0
    30 September 2023 14: 17
    Then let him get ready for calibration......
  16. +1
    30 September 2023 14: 26
    Modern missiles, under the guise of false targets, will be able to destroy the air defense of large cities, and then scalps and other things will fly, the question is how to reveal the location of the weapon and destroy it in advance, my opinion, you need to launch satellites to the maximum and strike preemptively, and it’s time to launch a patrol of attacking UAVs over Banderstat, in order to reduce the approach time, we need to do this all winter, destroy the entire military infrastructure, and then return our territories in the summer, and if we don’t do this before the elections in II, it will be very bad for us, sanctions will crush us, where it was so that at a price 100 bucks per barrel, does a buck cost 100 rubles?
  17. -3
    30 September 2023 14: 47
    Yes, they’ll probably throw it in the cold weather.
    And the cold will act as a catalyst to achieve the goal.
  18. +1
    30 September 2023 15: 17
    Scheckelgruber's followers are rowdy for some reason.
  19. -1
    30 September 2023 15: 49
    The Germans are going crazy. I would remind the Germans of the Russian proverb - beware of troubles while they are not there!
  20. -1
    30 September 2023 18: 26
    If they give you missiles, what will be the response from the Russian Federation?????? or will it not?????
  21. 0
    30 September 2023 18: 35
    "Sans notre soutien, la Russie aurait détruit l'Ukraine depuis longtemps. C'est pourquoi nous devons continuer à apporter notre soutien à l'avenir."
    Sans votre soutien plusieurs milliers de soldats ukrainiens seraient encore vivants.
    1. 0
      30 September 2023 21: 06
      Sir Aitmohoub! You are probably not aware that Russia may respond to your assistance to Ukraine with a tactical nuclear strike on your territory... Try to “turn on your head” and analyze the international situation. Is this development suitable for you?
      1. 0
        1 October 2023 11: 04
        Bonjour monsieur "nord-scout"
        Je crois qu'il ya "méprise sur la manière d'interpréter mon commentaire. Je le rappelle ci-dessous:
        "Sans votre soutien plusieurs milliers de soldats ukrainiens seraient encore vivants."
        je m'adressais au "Chef de la commission de la défense du Bundestag" qui prétendait que "Sans notre soutien, la Russie aurait détruit l'Ukraine depuis longtemps." à cela je répondais: sans votre soutien à l'Ukraine, la guerre Serait terminée au bout d'un maximum de 3 mois, donc beaucoup de militaires qui ont été détruits (des centaines de milliers) seraient encore en vie.
        Sauf bien sûr, si la traduction de mon texte, écrit en français, aurait un autre sens en russe.
        je suis habitant d'Algérie, pays dont la grande majorité de la population (dont je fais partie) supporte l'intervention de la Russie en Ukraine.
        have a good day.
        1. +1
          2 October 2023 00: 56
          Cher Aitmouhoub! Je m'excuse pour mon" spitch "sur votre note. Je n'ai pas bien compris le sens de ce que vous avez écrit... Encore une fois, je vous présente mes excuses. Merci,
          1. 0
            2 October 2023 11: 14
            bonjour nord-scout, vous êtes très correct, j'apprécie énormément. Merci beaucoup.
  22. +1
    30 September 2023 20: 55
    The current political situation around the Northern Military District, on the part of some particularly “overwhelmed” countries, its leaders and a group of “back-up dancers” from parliaments, in belligerent rhetoric, suggests that the domestic doctrine of the use of nuclear weapons should be edited, in the direction of designating the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons, according to especially “overspirited” and insolent.... Decades of a calm, satisfying life in Europe, without wars and hardships, a “balanced” domestic international policy in the spirit of “the principles of Leopold the cat”, sharply reduced the European feeling of healthy “vigilance” and gave rise to the false confidence of the West + the USA , that “the Russians won’t press the button”... So now we are forced to listen to various schizophrenic nonsense in our direction and unpunished military participation, in various forms in the Northern Military District.... I am sure that the use of tactical nuclear weapons, for those who are especially “inflamed”, will sharply would have reduced anti-Russian rhetoric, NATO’s participation in the Northern Military District, and would not have led to the outbreak of the Third World War, because in the USA, Britain, France, the brain instantly “turned on”, its limbic part, which is responsible for the instinct of self-preservation...
  23. 0
    2 October 2023 00: 58
    And we have every right to finish what is unfinished... The supply of these missiles is a direct participation in the conflict, so we can destroy Berlin again and completely.
  24. 0
    2 October 2023 11: 01
    This is approximately why the United States left Afghanistan and now France is fleeing Africa. After all, their opponents in these regions (as with their help, Ukraine in the Northern Military District) may have some good weapons that could kill Americans or French...