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“What was taught was not applied”: a Ukrainian prisoner of war criticized the training of Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel on the Marder infantry fighting vehicle in Germany

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“What was taught was not applied”: a Ukrainian prisoner of war criticized the training of Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel on the Marder infantry fighting vehicle in Germany

The training programs for the Ukrainian military at training grounds in Germany are not suitable for preparing for real combat missions. A Ukrainian Armed Forces serviceman who was captured in Russia spoke about this in a conversation with RIA News.


A Ukrainian prisoner of war criticized the training of Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel on the Marder infantry fighting vehicle in Germany. Training was carried out at the Fastberg base. According to the prisoner of war, they were taught how to get in and out of an infantry fighting vehicle, explained how to properly position themselves in an armored vehicle and where weapon.

In addition, the Ukrainian military was trained to cross intersections in several infantry fighting vehicles, and to fight from an open hatch while an infantry fighting vehicle was moving. But the military is unhappy with the quality of training.

What we were taught in Germany, we haven’t applied anything here either. No tactics and no strategy. All this is a deception of our superiors

- said a Ukrainian prisoner of war RIA News.

Earlier, Western analysts also reported shortcomings in the training of Ukrainian army personnel. One of the main problems is the lack of real experience of participation in a war with a strong enemy among NATO military instructors themselves. In fact, it is time for Ukrainian military personnel to teach the officers of the Bundeswehr and other European armies who have never really fought, after a year or more of combat, and not vice versa.

As for the technical component of training, it is clear that it is impossible to train a qualified driver or commander of a combat vehicle in five weeks, even if he is a person capable of learning.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 30 September 2023 11: 59
    +5
    The training program did not include lessons in looting, maiming prisoners and finishing off one’s own wounded—that is, without which one cannot exist in vain. What other marders are there? Where can you attach a stolen chest of drawers to him? Teachers don’t know how to fight “like a fool....
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 30 September 2023 20: 40
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      The training program did not include lessons in looting, mutilation of prisoners and finishing off one’s own wounded

      What for? Bandera’s people know how to do this perfectly and can instruct themselves... request
    2. knn54
      knn54 2 October 2023 08: 48
      0
      --in five weeks is impossible, even if the person is capable of learning.
      “We decided to conduct a survey among students. They asked the American students:
      - How long will it take you to learn Chinese and pass the exam?
      - Well, this is a very difficult language... About two years.
      Same question to the Frenchman:
      - If it’s a B, then in about a year. And I’ll never give it an A.
      They asked a Russian student. Answers:
      - Is there a manual?
      -There is
      Then I’ll finish my smoke now and go take the test.”
      1. vfrcbv1965-2011
        vfrcbv1965-2011 2 October 2023 10: 30
        0
        In my student youth, the ending was a little different: “when should I give it?”
  2. kind
    kind 30 September 2023 12: 11
    +4
    In addition, Ukrainian military personnel were trained to cross intersections in several infantry fighting vehicles,
    The Germans taught their fools how to surrender correctly. fool
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 September 2023 12: 12
    +11
    He is neither the first nor the last to complain about the methods of studying abroad. The only question is - why then in the videos from there are they so cheerful, belligerent, praising Western technology, instructors and ready to win? As soon as I was captured, I was immediately taught the wrong thing, the equipment wasn’t so hot, NATO tactics “sucked,” etc., etc.
    1. Huarabey
      Huarabey 30 September 2023 13: 04
      +4
      So they actually think that they are being taught something about travel there. It’s just that then, suddenly, it turns out that everything was smooth only on paper...
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 30 September 2023 20: 42
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      That's just the question

      The answer is simple: cinema is one thing, real life is another. request
  4. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 30 September 2023 12: 16
    +5
    it is clear that it is impossible to train a qualified driver or commander of a combat vehicle in five weeks,
    .... well, blondes are somehow trained to drive a car in a month... and then what happened... it’s not all about training, but the fact that pig-nosed devils, having been trained by a specialist, disable the equipment so as not to end up on the front end
    1. Neo-9947
      Neo-9947 30 September 2023 14: 39
      +3

      You also need to be able to disable equipment.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 30 September 2023 18: 08
        +1
        You also need to be able to disable equipment.
        ..it happens the other way around...Maaaasha...where is there a sewer hatch in the trunk of our car??? ahh... I forgot to tell you... I was driving and something made a noise... I thought that somehow a spare part had fallen off... Do you remember when the exhaust pipe fell off on our car and I didn’t pick it up when you cursed at me?
        well...military equipment must be developed wisely...that is, know it thoroughly
  5. abc_alex
    abc_alex 30 September 2023 12: 36
    +6
    What can the Bundeswehr, which has never fought with an equal enemy in its history, teach? What is needed in a war with bearded men in slippers: quickly load up for evacuation, quickly unload and run away, quickly drive through dangerous areas as part of a column and shoot anywhere from the hatch when suppressing riots or quickly retreating. I think that even in a nightmare, Bundeswehr employees would not imagine the prospect of climbing in this box through a minefield under artillery fire to infantry positions in fortifications equipped with ATGMs and RPGs.
  6. air wolf
    air wolf 30 September 2023 12: 39
    0
    I don’t understand, Bandera’s people are trained, motivated, but they surrender, because Bandera’s people don’t give up, why don’t they put a bullet in the temple or a couple of grenades under the arms? And then feed them, for me and our people, why not hang them like under Stalin?
  7. Slon_on
    Slon_on 30 September 2023 12: 58
    0
    And if you put it all together: NATO training sucks, NATO equipment sucks, NATO tactics suck, then the conclusion suggests itself - the vaunted NATO standards suck! So, good gentlemen, get out of here. Ukraine to their gardens before it’s too late, then oh how it will hurt.
  8. Curt
    Curt 30 September 2023 14: 10
    0
    Perhaps - not “they didn’t use it” but “they didn’t allow it to be used.” The Russian Federation is not like Afghanistan and Iraq.
  9. Revolver
    Revolver 30 September 2023 19: 04
    +1
    No tactics and no strategy.
    Tactics are taught to officers. The strategy is generally academy level. And at short-term training camps, they don’t teach anything other than boarding and disembarking. And why the hell teach meat anything?
    Quote: Feldmarschall Conrad von Hötzendorf

    Die Soldaten müssen so wie so krepieren.
    translation: Soldiers still die
  10. Oleg Fedechkin
    Oleg Fedechkin 3 October 2023 20: 16
    0
    He was taught to use equipment against the Papuans with Kalash, and they kicked these teachers out of Afghanistan, and soon they will FLY from Iraq!!! Iran will help them.
  11. Oleg Fedechkin
    Oleg Fedechkin 3 October 2023 20: 17
    0
    He was taught to use equipment against the Papuans with Kalash, and they kicked these teachers out of Afghanistan, and soon they will FLY from Iraq!!! Iran will help them.