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Near Kleshcheevka, the Ukrainian Armed Forces opened mortar fire on their servicemen who surrendered to Russian troops

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Near Kleshcheevka, the Ukrainian Armed Forces opened mortar fire on their servicemen who surrendered to Russian troops

Fighting continues in the vicinity of Artyomovsk. The Ukrainian army has been trying for months to regain previously lost territories, but these attempts lead to large losses and often the need to roll back. The losses were not only killed and wounded, but also prisoners.


Information about the battle in the Kleshcheevka area is published by the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov. From his publication:

The Akhmat special forces, together with the 4th motorized rifle brigade, staged another thrashing of Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen in the vicinity of the famous Kleshcheevka.


The enemy took measures to consolidate positions, but Russian troops began to strike one blow after another. Shelling of Ukrainian positions from artillery, tanks and the infantry fighting vehicle was adjusted from the air using drone. Ultimately, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost several dozen people, at least 4 dugouts, and a chain of trenches and trenches.

Russian infantrymen entered one of the dugouts; five Ukrainian servicemen who were there, two of whom were members of the National Guard, surrendered.

One of the prisoners said that when Russian soldiers began to take them out, first a drone appeared in the sky, and a few seconds later the shelling began. The Ukrainian military beat their own people. As a result, at least two Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen were injured. They were already given first aid at our positions.

R. Kadyrov:

According to one of the AKHMAT special forces fighters, in just a week his detachment killed 28 Ukronat soldiers and captured another 12. And this is only on one, small section of a rather extensive front line. It is difficult to imagine what the real number of enemy losses is, if even the result of the work of one of our detachments demonstrates such figures.

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  1. Pavel_Sveshnikov
    Pavel_Sveshnikov 30 September 2023 07: 16
    +4
    Well done Kadyrovites. It’s upsetting that our anti-Doron fight is still bad. In fact, no anti-drone guns were observed in a specific area, judging by the episode described, and there are no traditional means either - there is nothing to shoot them down with.
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  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 September 2023 07: 22
    +8
    The Ukrainian military beat their own people.
    Defiantly showing that it is preferable to die in the trenches than from one’s own when surrendering? Such cases of destruction of one’s own during surrender have been written more than once, but as we see, this does not stop those who do not want to fight and prefer life to death.
    1. Saburov_Alexander53
      Saburov_Alexander53 30 September 2023 08: 19
      +3
      How many times in our films about the war have they shown stories where a coward lost his nerve and ran to surrender towards the Germans. And then our political instructor or platoon commander took him at gunpoint....
      So I don’t understand what’s special or wrong on the part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces if they destroy their defectors like this? This is a common practice in any war. And if now one of our people runs to surrender in front of the platoon, do we see him off with wishes of good luck and health?
      1. Lynx2000
        Lynx2000 30 September 2023 08: 43
        0
        Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
        How many times in our films about the war have they shown stories where a coward lost his nerve and ran to surrender towards the Germans. And then our political instructor or platoon commander took him at gunpoint....
        So I don’t understand what’s special or wrong on the part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces if they destroy their defectors like this? This is a common practice in any war. And if now one of our people runs to surrender in front of the platoon, do we see him off with wishes of good luck and health?

        Eh...Alexander..., You are a naval officer, but you think like an infantryman. In the infantry, if on the defensive, with a continuous line of formations, with OP and KNP, the defector is immediately visible, similarly with platoon-strong or company-strong points (VOP/ROP in the common people Checkpoint) intended for all-round defense and control of a certain territory within the radius of action (intelligence patrols, secrets, engineer reconnaissance to the next VOP/ROP), a fugitive/defector with modern means of surveillance (optical/heat/night/vision) will not be difficult to identify, report and destroy (take measures to apprehend) .
        An enemy counterattack on positions captured by our units, including artillery shelling with the same mortars, is a common occurrence...
        1. Saburov_Alexander53
          Saburov_Alexander53 30 September 2023 09: 01
          +7
          Lynx2000 (Alexander, thank you for picking up on my naval service experience. But if I can think like an infantryman, is this a compliment or a disadvantage? I re-read your answer several times, but I still didn’t get the essence of it. I’ll ask directly, do you think it’s correct, if during trench battles, the Armed Forces of Ukraine capture our trench (dugout) with several soldiers, and we, watching all this from a quadrocopter, refrain from striking the enemy and our prisoners with artillery - let everyone live... Or we will do exactly the same as we did now VSUshniks?
          1. Lynx2000
            Lynx2000 30 September 2023 10: 55
            0
            Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
            Lynx2000 (Alexander, thanks for picking up on my naval service experience. But if I can think like an infantryman, is that a compliment or a disadvantage?

            Or will we do exactly the same as the Armed Forces of Ukraine did now?

            Yes and no...if the edging and clearance on the naval shoulder strap are red.
            During the entire time of service in the infantry... and participation in the database in the second Chechen war, there were no defectors in our military unit, nor were there any raiders. There were no MPs from the fellow countrymen of the Far East during the first one either.
            Regarding prisoners due to shell shock or injury, if we knew about this, we tried to pull them out alive without artillery shelling, according to my memory and my call II'99 of the separate reconnaissance battalion 101 OsBrON VV of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (participated in the second assault on Grozny).
            Regarding our days, according to the actions of Guards 155 OBr. MP KTOF and fellow countrymen Gv.40 Obr. MP KTOF, my nephew’s service in the Northern Military District zone, knows that ours don’t do that... Yes

            Py.Sy. I heard about cases in Chechnya and Ukraine when our people observed through optics or through UAVs the torment of our prisoner, then there were cases of ordering a mortar artillery raid on the coordinates of the specified target...

            At one time, the rock band "Sledopyt" and Ivan Panfilov were popular, in addition to "Mumiy Troll" with its Vladivostok 2000
            1. Saburov_Alexander53
              Saburov_Alexander53 30 September 2023 16: 47
              0
              Lynx2000 (Alexander), it seems that we are of the same blood and the same worldview, which certainly makes me happy. You have the right to be proud that you do not know of a single case of voluntary surrender among your colleagues. But not only the elite, represented by the MP and the Airborne Forces, are fighting, there are a lot of ordinary mobs there, and some are captured. I exclude from consideration the example of the torment of a wounded prisoner, especially if he is tormented by enemies. But now we see from a quadcopter that tens of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are taking prisoner two of our people who have stopped resisting... Will we cover everyone with artillery and mortars or let them take them?
              I confess that I myself do not have an answer and cannot have one ready for any case of war. Everything depends on the circumstances...
              1. Huarabey
                Huarabey 30 September 2023 18: 16
                +2
                Are a defector and a prisoner the same thing? The deserter himself goes to the enemy, and is captured when the enemy captures him.
  3. bambr731
    bambr731 30 September 2023 07: 43
    +11
    Near Kleshcheevka, the Ukrainian Armed Forces opened mortar fire on their servicemen who surrendered to Russian troops

    This is normal for the APU. Personally, I have long been firmly established in my thoughts and am convinced that there is no more vile and treacherous nation in the world than the Ukrainian. What they do has never been done before by anyone
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 30 September 2023 08: 18
      +5
      that there is no trash and more treacherous nation in the world than the Ukrainian. What they do has never been done before by anyone
      ...when military affairs go out of the ordinary, zahrad detachments appear...for the first time, Genghis Khan put this on the stream...captured Tatars served as a battering ram for his hordes, who during the battles were between a rock and a hard place; the retreating ones were mercilessly destroyed; there were no detachments, because Tsar Peter built his troops on the basis of valor. therefore, all the troops were one large barrage detachment... in the Great Patriotic War, order 227 was a necessary measure when things were going badly... just like the Germans, when they began to roll back, the SS troops, in addition to maintaining a database, were also prescribed punitive measures against the Wehrmacht... and so did nothing surprising here...
      1. bambr731
        bambr731 30 September 2023 09: 56
        +5
        It's not about the barrier detachments. And there is no need to drag in Genghis Khan as an example - this is the XNUMXst century. The point is the Ukrainian mentality. Although what did I say about Genghis Khan? The Ukrovermacht is doing such things now that the medieval Inquisition is resting
    2. Saburov_Alexander53
      Saburov_Alexander53 30 September 2023 10: 36
      0
      Personally, I have long been established in my thoughts and am convinced
      Your conviction will benefit the cause! I propose to enroll in a punitive detachment to clean up liberated territories. You look at a Ukrainian passport or listen to the soft “ge” in the speech of the first person you meet and immediately put a bullet in his forehead... Or to Siberia for logging, and the poor and old people to the gas chambers. You spoke about the whole nation, and not about a separate part of it. So, did I understand you correctly?
      1. turbina2367
        turbina2367 30 September 2023 11: 06
        -9
        Right, right!
        He was “personally convinced” of this while lying on his own sofa! This category of Putinoids is ready to strangle everyone who thinks differently from them. But he won’t even join the punitive squad voluntarily, so they’re here waving sabers, knowing that there’s no risk to their precious asses in this!
      2. bambr731
        bambr731 30 September 2023 11: 18
        +1
        There is no need to drag in punitive squads, gas chambers and other passions. And the punitive detachments are just now in Ukraine and consist of “purebred” Ukrainians. AND THIS IS A FACT!!! And all the atrocities in the Northern Military District are the work of Ukrainians - THIS IS ALSO A FACT
        1. Saburov_Alexander53
          Saburov_Alexander53 30 September 2023 16: 26
          +1
          И all the atrocities in the Northern Military District are the work of Ukrainians - THIS IS ALSO A FACT
          The key word here is “everything”, with which it is impossible to agree. But what about the Georgian mercenaries who shot our prisoners in front of their cells or the Russians, half of whom are in “Azov” or “Aidar”? Maybe you don’t know that Hitler had more Russian collaborators than Ukrainians of all stripes? Didn't you sentence Olesya Buzina because he was Ukrainian?
          Could you please clarify whether he is Ukrainian by passport or by nationality? And it’s not a fact that EVERYTHING is.
  4. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 30 September 2023 09: 00
    +1
    Quote: Pavel_Sveshnikov
    Well done Kadyrovites. It’s upsetting that our anti-Doron fight is still bad. In fact, no anti-drone guns were observed in a specific area, judging by the episode described, and there are no traditional means either - there is nothing to shoot them down with.

    I think .. I just don’t want anyone to carry extra weight .. in addition to the main equipment.
  5. bambr731
    bambr731 30 September 2023 11: 25
    +5
    Quote from: turbina2367
    Right, right!
    He was “personally convinced” of this while lying on his own sofa! This category of Putinoids is ready to strangle everyone who thinks differently from them. But he won’t even join the punitive squad voluntarily, so they’re here waving sabers, knowing that there’s no risk to their precious asses in this!

    Only a stubborn Ukrainian Nazi will join the punitive detachment voluntarily (and then only when he is sure that nothing will happen to him for this). And about the “sofa” - are you talking from somewhere other than the sofa? I'm not a "Putinoid", but what party do you belong to? Morons?
  6. Maks1995
    Maks1995 30 September 2023 12: 12
    -3
    Peremoga ....
    "When Russian soldiers began to take them out, first a drone appeared in the sky, and a few seconds later the shelling began."
    That is, they were no longer hitting their own people. . PR, he's so...