American senator: “Our national vital interest lies in the degradation of the Russian army”

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American senator: “Our national vital interest lies in the degradation of the Russian army”

In the United States, debates were held by the Republican Party as part of the pre-election primaries. Naturally, they also touched upon the topic of Ukraine and its military and financial support from the United States.

Senator Tim Scott, who spoke at the debate, spoke quite clearly about the true benefits of the Ukrainian conflict for Washington. Firstly, Scott noted that 90% of the funds allocated to Ukraine are loans beneficial to the United States. That is, Washington does not do anything disinterestedly for Kyiv. Loans, as you know, need to be worked off and repaid.



Secondly, Scott noted that the Ukrainian conflict contributes to the security of the United States and NATO countries. By helping Kyiv, America, according to him, reduces or even eliminates the possibility of some kind of attack on the territory of the North Atlantic Alliance.

Our national vital interest lies in the degradation of the Russian army. By destroying the Russian military, we are actually making our homeland safer, keeping our military at home

- the senator opened up.

More recently, another prominent senator, Lindsey Graham, called the fighting in Ukraine a “good investment” for the United States. That is, Washington has already stopped masking itself with statements about protecting the “territorial integrity” of Ukraine and de facto recognizes that an armed conflict is beneficial to America in a longer period. The lives of Ukrainians and the fate of Ukraine as a country as a whole are completely indifferent to the American elite.
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    1. +10
      28 September 2023 15: 09
      "Loans, as you know, need to be worked off and repaid."
      There are non-repayable loans. This is exactly the case.
      1. +9
        28 September 2023 16: 01
        Black...may the Africans forgive me, surrounded by white girls? And there too?
        Maybe he should go back to the zoo?
        1. +5
          28 September 2023 16: 29
          Each of them has a chance to “earn” over time from accusations of sexual harassment. laughing
          1. 0
            28 September 2023 18: 19

            DymOk_v_dYmke
            Today, 16: 29

            +2
            Each of them has a chance to “earn” over time from accusations of sexual harassment. laughin
            g
            Given the diversity of genders in the United States, anyone can make an accusation of sexual harassment hi
    2. +17
      28 September 2023 15: 10
      When will we start using striped tactics to arm America's enemies? After all, this is a way to keep our military at home, protecting them and our civilians from danger.
      1. +6
        28 September 2023 15: 22
        When will we start using striped tactics to arm America's enemies?

        Never. There are not enough resources, skills, or political will.
        1. +8
          28 September 2023 15: 26
          First of all, there will not be enough enemies of America).
          China - it won’t seriously fit in with us. And the rest cannot be taken seriously.
          1. +2
            28 September 2023 15: 34
            Theoretically, Kim would benefit from a real run-in of the troops.
            1. +2
              28 September 2023 15: 37
              In theory, this would be useful to everyone. In theory.
              1. +2
                28 September 2023 15: 39
                You also need someone to douse. They write that it is useless to break it in too quickly. Degenerated.
                1. 0
                  28 September 2023 18: 12
                  Sorry, guys, about the “striped tactics”, but what’s stopping us from sending the entire “fifth column” to the states, “arming the enemies of America”, so let them experience the beauty of their methods of “democracy” first hand
                2. -1
                  28 September 2023 18: 35
                  Quote from Aken
                  Degenerated.


                  Don't get your hopes up. If necessary, they will start shooting. Even if not with their own hands, but with Polish/Romanian/Baltic hands, they will try to do something nasty to us.
                  1. +1
                    28 September 2023 19: 35
                    Are the Germans Polish? Are you joking? Who will listen to them?
      2. +1
        28 September 2023 15: 23
        arming America's enemies <...> After all, this is a way to keep our military at home

        Who are you talking about? Who will fight in Ukraine instead of us?
      3. +2
        28 September 2023 15: 33
        So that this demaria, in other words, Niger, choked on a banana, so that he had a piece of banana in a feces in his throat!
        1. +5
          28 September 2023 15: 38
          Quote: Thrifty
          So that this demaria, in other words, Niger, choked on a banana, so that he had a piece of banana in a feces in his throat!

          Did you mean to say stake? Although, in principle, I also like your option...
      4. -1
        28 September 2023 15: 34
        Quote: Reaper
        When will we start using striped tactics to arm America's enemies?

        As they say in our manual, “not our methods.”
    3. +13
      28 September 2023 15: 10
      lies in the degradation of the Russian army.
      It turns out just the opposite - Russia is gaining experience of a serious military conflict.
      1. +6
        28 September 2023 15: 20
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        It turns out just the opposite - Russia is gaining experience of a serious military conflict.

        After the assassination of Kennedy, the American gentlemen lost their memory; what they think is what they say, they completely lost fear, although, in fairness, it should be noted that they do not have the institution of diplomacy as such in their country, they only recognize the right of the strong, at any level, as savages. Yes
    4. +5
      28 September 2023 15: 12
      Scott noted that 90% of the funds allocated to Ukraine are loans beneficial to the United States.

      It’s good when the obvious is stated in plain text.
      1. +3
        28 September 2023 15: 16
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        It’s good when the obvious is stated in plain text.

        and what was a surprise for anyone?!!!
        Who really thought these were all Christmas gifts?
        1. 0
          28 September 2023 18: 37
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Who really thought these were all Christmas gifts?


          You surprise me. The Ukrainians believed that all this was free of charge, that is, for nothing.
    5. +5
      28 September 2023 15: 14
      This means we need to cut the borders of Ukraine so that the United States will never, NEVER get its money back.
      1. -1
        28 September 2023 18: 39
        Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
        This means we need to cut the borders of Ukraine so that the United States will never, NEVER get its money back.


        The fact of the matter is that the States will NEVER give up their money. And the big question is who will repay Ukraine’s debts. I don’t want to think about the bad, but who knows...
    6. +11
      28 September 2023 15: 15
      this was all clear a year ago, moreover, the amount of loans is already such that this is the problem of the lender, not the borrower
      mattresses understand perfectly well that in the event of the defeat of Sumeria, all their loans will be covered with a copper basin and will really fight until the last Ukrainian
      1. +5
        28 September 2023 15: 26
        90% of the loans remained in the United States and went to lending to the American military-industrial complex. And what they lose, they will get from Europe in the form of military orders and the loss of industrial production.
        The Americans have everything covered.
        1. +3
          28 September 2023 15: 28
          Quote from Aken
          90% of loans remained in the USA and went to lending to the American military-industrial complex

          not entirely true, but it’s all left there, but according to the mattresses, the Sumerians will pay for it, with land, wheat, industry, what’s left, they will find something to take, but they will be able to take it only if they win
          1. +4
            28 September 2023 15: 37
            Not necessary. It doesn't matter who covers the costs. But they will definitely cover it.
            It’s just that if the shavars win, you and I will pay for everything.
            If we win, Europe will pay.
            1. 0
              28 September 2023 18: 40
              Quote from Aken
              If we win, Europe will pay.


              What if it’s not Europe???
        2. +1
          28 September 2023 16: 18
          Yes, the loans remained in the USA, and American military corporations use them...BUT! The chubaks (who received beads, nails and other pieces of glass) are obliged to pay for this - and this is the corporate style of America, and Americans simply cannot exist any other way.
      2. +3
        28 September 2023 15: 26
        they only lose money, and we lose everything
      3. +1
        28 September 2023 15: 33
        Then it’s time not to leave a single Ukrainian behind.
        How are we doing with unconventional weapons that allow us to quickly and effectively destroy large urban agglomerations?
        1. -1
          28 September 2023 15: 38
          How are we doing with unconventional weapons that allow us to quickly and effectively destroy large urban agglomerations?

          I'm afraid not.
      4. +1
        28 September 2023 16: 53
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        mattresses understand perfectly well that in the event of the defeat of Sumeria, all their loans will be covered with a copper basin and will really fight until the last Ukrainian

        Government loans are of little concern to the owners of the money.
        They are more concerned about the fact that the agricultural and natural resources (such as gas-bearing shale fields) that they bought for next to nothing will be covered.
        Loans were the lubricant in these transactions.
        That’s why they turned a blind eye to targeted use and theft.

        If there is a change in administrations of the striped fish, all these tails will begin to float out. hi
    7. +1
      28 September 2023 15: 18
      Give him a banana. Until he eats, he won’t calm down.
      1. +5
        28 September 2023 15: 22
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Until he eats, he won’t calm down.

        Even when he eats a bunch he won’t calm down, it’s not bananas that are needed, but specialists
        1. +3
          28 September 2023 15: 32
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          it’s not bananas that are needed, but specialists

          In no case, freedom for Angela Davis and BLM for everyone, let African Americans enjoy themselves to the fullest, right up to the elimination of the current hegemon within the existing borders. bully
          1. +2
            28 September 2023 16: 18
            Quote: Dym71
            freedom for Angela Davis and BLM everyone

            neeeee
            You can’t give chemistry and biology into the hands of nuclear weapons!!!!!
      2. +1
        28 September 2023 15: 29
        planet of the apes...seen...and this one says - cattle....
      3. +1
        28 September 2023 15: 37
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Give him a banana. Until he eats, he won’t calm down.

        Only banana with polonium or novichok. laughing
    8. +6
      28 September 2023 15: 21
      Niger was wrong. Degradation turned into learning to fight and working on mistakes.
    9. +1
      28 September 2023 15: 23
      They openly declare the murder of Russians and the whole world is silent in a rag... The UN has generally stuck its tongue in the hole, the amers. The Eurosixes are boiling over Russophobia. This is the world order. Why did they decide that this is their territory... these are our original lands! Why is it possible for them to expand into our lands, but not for us to protect ours? The Britons with the Amers, with the hands of the Ukrainians, will do what they wanted for a long time - knock out our military potential... while saying that this is what the Ukrainians decided in their struggle for the right to be a Nazi and a fascist.
    10. +2
      28 September 2023 15: 23
      Quote: Lena Petrova
      "Loans, as you know, need to be worked off and repaid."
      There are non-repayable loans. This is exactly the case.
      Yes, if Russia wins in the Northern Military District, a return will be more than problematic.
      And for insurance companies and banks, losing a war for military loans is clearly an uninsurable event!
    11. +1
      28 September 2023 15: 25
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Give him a banana. Until he eats, he won’t calm down.
      But you can not only eat - sometimes it’s better to squeal than to talk! Remembering half-forgotten advertising from the 90s...
    12. +2
      28 September 2023 15: 27
      Black idiot, in this war the Russian army will only become stronger
    13. HAM
      +4
      28 September 2023 15: 29
      "Black Lives Matter"?? and there aren’t any Ukrainians?....And it’s not visible that the Yankees kept their military at home, spread all over the world like cockroaches..
      1. +3
        28 September 2023 15: 38
        Quote: HAM
        spread all over the world like cockroaches...

        Well, you have to do with them what you do with cockroaches and other parasites.
    14. +1
      28 September 2023 15: 35
      Yes, they all want and desire for Russia to degrade.
      Unfortunately, we cannot wish this on America... because where else can we go?
      1. 0
        28 September 2023 18: 43
        Quote: Peter_Koldunov
        because where else next?


        There is no limit to degradation.
    15. +2
      28 September 2023 15: 38
      This idiot cannot understand that the Russian army is not weakening and degrading every month... but on the contrary, it is becoming stronger... more efficient and professional.... honing modern advanced military art to perfection.
    16. +3
      28 September 2023 15: 47
      And they achieved the opposite effect. For the degradation of the Russian army, it was necessary not to touch Russia for another hundred years.
    17. +1
      28 September 2023 15: 48
      Quote: Bolt Cutter
      It turns out just the opposite - Russia is gaining experience of a serious military conflict.

      Well, yes, as they say - “for one “beaten”, two “unbeaten” they give.” Well...and then, before the debate, it would not hurt for this senator to find out his opinion about the Russian army before the start of the conflict. and at the moment among our own, that is, NATO military experts, who, willy-nilly, are forced to recognize progress, and not the degradation of the Russian army in many key areas.
    18. +1
      28 September 2023 15: 48
      Quote: Bolt Cutter
      It turns out just the opposite - Russia is gaining experience of a serious military conflict.

      Well, yes, as they say - “for one “beaten”, two “unbeaten” they give.” Well...and then, before the debate, it would not hurt for this senator to find out his opinion about the Russian army before the start of the conflict. and at the moment among our own, that is, NATO military experts, who, willy-nilly, are forced to recognize progress, and not the degradation of the Russian army in many key areas.
    19. +2
      28 September 2023 15: 52
      The degradation of the Russian army in the American way is an increase in the army, who knows how many hundreds of thousands of drugs, an increase in defense spending, a significant increase in the production of armored vehicles, armored fighting vehicles, aviation, air defense, electronic warfare, and missile technology. Boosting the concept and application of UAVs. Gaining simply colossal experience of a full-fledged modern war, which no one has to such an extent as the Russian Army and the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Is the senator autistic or is he dreaming?
    20. +1
      28 September 2023 16: 03
      American Senator: “Our national vital interest lies in the degradation of the Russian army”

      In the USA, the “elite” has already begun to degrade, and secondly, they are also terribly afraid of the Russian army...
    21. +2
      28 September 2023 16: 10
      Scott noted that 90% of the funds allocated to Ukraine are loans beneficial to the United States.


      There's one thing I don't understand. What if suddenly a coup d’état happens in Ukraine? How are they going to get all this back? Will they impose sanctions on that government in the hope that they will recognize the debts?
    22. -1
      28 September 2023 16: 11
      You might think that the states started their own. It was started by the greatest geostrategist who could not calculate the consequences. Naturally, the states benefit from this; it would be foolish not to take advantage.
    23. +1
      28 September 2023 16: 57
      That's right. But Surkov believes that in the future we will have an alliance with the West. Great North. Something is still not visible even from afar.
      1. +1
        28 September 2023 17: 05
        in the future we will have a union with the West
        If the right comes to power in Europe, it is quite possible. With the liberal hypocrites that exist now, of course not.
        1. +1
          28 September 2023 18: 47
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          in the future we will have a union with the West
          If the right comes to power in Europe, it is quite possible. With the liberal hypocrites that exist now, of course not.


          Don't fall into idealism and infantilism. For the Great North and the White Master, we are a territory from which they can obtain the resources they need. And there should be no Russian people in this territory.
          1. 0
            28 September 2023 20: 01
            Don't fall into idealism and infantilism.
            There are also political circles here that view Russia adequately, and quite a few. It’s just that modern politicians express the will of the ruling minority, not the people. The majority of people treat Russia and Russians with sympathy. I grew up in England, where I still live.
    24. +1
      28 September 2023 17: 22
      Some smart people say the opposite, that as a result of this war, Russia will have the best army in the world. Trained, fired, with all the latest military thought and theory, tested in practice.
      1. +1
        28 September 2023 18: 49
        I wish this war would end soon. And the best army in the world will again guard the world, as in the previous 75 years.
    25. 0
      28 September 2023 18: 40
      American senator: “Our national vital interest lies in the degradation of the Russian army”

      Apparently the senator lives and lives in a parallel reality, from where he occasionally visits ours to allow himself to make some statements.

      But apparently he is seriously out of touch with the life of real America and its political component, even if he is not aware that in the other chamber of the American parliament they were discussing the deplorable state of the armed forces of their own country. And they decided to punish the US Secretary of Defense for this, even adopting a special amendment to reduce his salary to $1 a month. This document was published on the chamber's website.

      The decision was made under the “Holman rule,” which allows congressmen to reduce the salaries of specific federal employees. The document was discussed as part of the annual defense appropriations bill, the final adoption of which is scheduled for September 28.

      Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene explained the decision:

      This is different from impeachment. You are taking their entire salary and essentially firing them. Lloyd Austin has completely failed, absolutely failed, and the amendment passed today will allow us to fire him.

      She already explained in X (formerly Twitter) in more detail that the claims against the minister are related to the “horrific withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan,” a reduction in the number of recruits, and the dismissal of military personnel for refusing vaccination against COVID. In her opinion, Austin failed the army and America and is unworthy to lead the US Department of Defense.
    26. +1
      28 September 2023 18: 44
      And this black man with which plantation ran away ??? Or have I already forgotten everything
    27. -1
      28 September 2023 18: 58
      An army that fights and wins, a priori, cannot degrade, it’s good that such characters who become senators are degrading..
    28. 0
      28 September 2023 18: 59
      While your national interest lies in your own degradation
    29. 0
      28 September 2023 19: 01
      5k does not allow us to raise the level of US nuclear deterrence as it was in the USSR. The doctrine is not the same and the answer is only possible in the direction from which the American missiles will arrive. For example, from Ukraine, and not from the decision-making center - the United States, as Putin wanted. And since 94 Targeting of US cities has been cancelled.))
    30. 0
      28 September 2023 20: 00
      Scott noted that the Ukrainian conflict contributes to the security of the United States and NATO countries.
      It is interesting to listen to such a conclusion from a descendant of colonial Africa and he thinks that the Anglo-Saxons recognize a black youth as equal to themselves.
    31. 0
      28 September 2023 20: 26
      his ancestors are from Brazil, there are a lot of wild monkeys there
      1. 0
        29 September 2023 01: 13
        No, his ancestors are from Guinea-Bisua. Well, there are also a lot of wild monkeys there. Even more than in Brazil
    32. 0
      28 September 2023 22: 54
      Degradation is when trances, light blues and other European and world values ​​come into the army. And the warring army is only developing skills and ability to fight, and not chasing natives through the jungle with three Chinese AKs for all..
    33. 0
      29 September 2023 00: 00
      Wow, friends and foes!
      So, I’m wildly apologizing, but in Odessa I saw almost similar personalities in the uniform of Bandera Nazis among the mercenaries, and without thinking about it, I thought about it, so to speak, Senatre or..., well, perhaps not Gaia, but how could you leave the land of your ancestors in Africa, who spread their wings and shoulders against people like the US, because the mentality of the people among whom he is located, much less the mentality of the people of the Russian Federation, is inaccessible to him, what can we take from him...? The question is rhetorical, you can’t answer in monosyllables! He should be in the ranks of BLM (Black Lives Matter - black lives matter - this is in the USA!).
      Well, the environment of white girls is deceptive for the media, as in this entire country of lies!
      I have the honor.
    34. 0
      29 September 2023 01: 12
      Well, Hitler had the same argument before his death. And in a strange way, the Soviet Army in 1945 only became stronger, even stronger than it was in 1941
    35. 0
      29 September 2023 07: 00
      This is a strange degradation, the military-industrial complex has begun to develop, the production of weapons and military equipment has increased significantly, the development and introduction of new models and the modernization of existing ones are proceeding at an accelerated pace. And most importantly, I gained combat experience. Real databases and exercises are slightly different things. And running in diapers through the forest with a painted face under the guidance of a female “instructor” who has never participated in a real battle in her life is, of course, the height of perfection. We have been seeing the results of this training for 4 months now. M. Zadornov was right - God deprived them of their intelligence.
    36. -1
      30 September 2023 17: 50
      It would be better if *Moidodyr* read it. Or bought some good bleach. The AIDS carrier is overripe
    37. -1
      1 October 2023 13: 17
      Mr. Scott miscalculated! If earlier they wore the mask of a “cultured nation,” now they have degraded to the level of “simple Scotts” and are inviting former SS men to parliament.

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