Lavrov: Russia is ready for negotiations on Ukraine, taking into account the realities on earth

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov once again stated that Russia is ready to enter into negotiations on the Ukrainian issue. At the same time, the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry emphasized that there is a condition that the opposing side needs to take into account.

According to Sergei Lavrov, the Russian negotiating position is based on the fact that it is possible to negotiate taking into account the conditions prevailing on the ground (during the course of hostilities).

In the interview TASS the head of Russian diplomacy emphasized that Russia also bases its negotiating position on taking into account the interests of our country, including interests in the security sphere.

Lavrov:

We proceed from preventing the creation of a hostile Nazi regime on our borders, which would openly declare the goal of exterminating everything Russian in those lands that in Crimea and Novorossiya have been settled and settled by Russians for centuries.

According to the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the longer Kyiv refuses to negotiate and accept objective realities, the more difficult it will be to negotiate. And the first step, according to Lavrov, on Kyiv’s part should be to cancel Zelensky’s own decree banning participation in negotiations with the Russian side. Otherwise, no negotiations are possible by definition.

Let us recall that in the West, in connection with the unsuccessful Ukrainian counter-offensive, they are increasingly talking about a possible “division of Ukraine according to the Korean scenario.” At the same time, the West, through the mouths of various kinds of political scientists, politicians and other kinds of experts, is making attempts to convince the Zelensky regime that “Ukraine has already won, maintaining its statehood.”

Comments

[Asad]

Lavrov’s job is like this, talking. But Shoigu and Mishustin have a completely different approach: less words and more action.

[Thrifty]

How disgusting it is to listen to this whining from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs! Are the liberals blown away? For them, shame is already something that goes without saying! So they disgrace the country with such statements!

[bambr731]

“How disgusting it is to listen to this whining from the Foreign Ministry!”
I already cringe when I hear from our Foreign Ministry about readiness for negotiations It’s really a disgrace - a power like the Russian Federation is whining about negotiations, and some drug addict is yelling that he’ll let all Russians out of their guts Only the complete destruction of Ukrainians (aka Nazism)!!! And no negotiations!!!

[2 Level Advisor]

that’s how it is, but it’s not up to you and me to decide.. therefore - whatever they decide will be so.. and so - the country is several times larger and stronger, unlike a smaller and weaker one - about negotiations, and not vice versa - nonsense .. but this is a fact..

[dmi.pris1]

This country, smaller and weaker, managed to organize itself, mobilize society, the army and the economy, albeit with the dominant help of the West. And the stronger country took the “Ku” pose.. However, it’s not surprising with such leadership

[Glagol1]

They received from the West 100 billion dollars in a year and a half, a bunch of weapons and equipment, the entire NATO reconnaissance and target designation system works in their interests, tens of thousands of mercenaries from a dozen countries, mostly NATO, if this had not happened, at least partially, they would crumpled in a month or two.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Glagol1

if this had not happened at least partially, they would have been crushed in a month or two.

The decision to help Ukraine was made just two months after the start of the SVO, as far as I remember.

[Bolt cutter]

two months after the start of the SVO they accepted

Arming and supplying them with intelligence (which is more important) began much earlier.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Mordvin 3

The decision to help Ukraine was made just two months after the start of the SVO, as far as I remember.

And before that, starting in the summer of 2021, every day, several Hercules per day, filled with weapons, were sent just like that, without a decision.

[Ivan Ivanov]

And why did Surkov’s article come out about the “united north”, where “we will all live together, USA, Russia, Europe”? Fit into the same basket as the mid's whining. Surkov, as everyone remembers well, is not a horseradish from the mountain, he has been the Guarantor’s trusted representative in Ukraine for 7 years, whose “expert opinion”, among other things, led us to “success”. A disgusting picture emerges - the environment, which speaks of the coordinate system of the guarantor himself.

[Egeny]

Surkov “laid out straws”, saying that a “united north” is possible only after Russia’s victory. His article is about nothing, like a utopia, in a couple of decades, or maybe centuries. I decided to remind myself.
I don’t understand why the Guarantor kept him as an adviser

[seamen2]

“The intelligence of a ruler is first judged by what kind of people he brings close to him; if these are loyal and capable people, then you can always be confident in his wisdom, for he knew how to recognize their abilities and retain their devotion. If they are not like that, then they will conclude about the sovereign accordingly, because he has already committed the first mistake by choosing bad assistants.”

Niccolo di Bernardo dei Machiavelli

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote from bambr731

Only the complete destruction of Ukrainians (aka Nazism)!!! And no negotiations!!!

The fact of the matter is that de-Ukrainization = de-Banderization is the only way to finally solve the problem, but the task is not meant to be that way at all. De-Ukrainization is naturally gentle, through the education of a new generation, the delivery of historical truth.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

I figured this out for myself a long time ago, I just stopped listening to them.

[T.A.V.]

We are ready to negotiate. And how many rantings there were that each proposal would be worse than the previous one. It all looks... Not like the position of a strong man, this is a fact.

[smart ass]

When did the negotiations take place in Kyiv and what was the result?

[Kurganets-45]

So, from the two conditions indicated by Lavrov, worse conditions follow, and they talk about readiness for negotiations only for show. According to Clausewitz, war becomes meaningless when the enemy surrenders, and a fool will certainly capitulate.

[Uprun]

This is his job. We don't need negotiations in the first place. Well, they will divide the outskirts. shall we live peacefully? No! Will the regime change? No! Will sanctions be lifted? No! Will they be stuffed with weapons? Yes! Will there be provocations, shelling and terrorist attacks in border areas? Yes ! Well? There is no one to negotiate with, everything that they sign can be immediately thrown into the trash, and no one on the other side will carry out anything. We know this, they know this too. This is his job.

[Sid2014]

We don't need it, but our government does! We don’t know the situation inside the country (gasoline prices, for example). They tell us everything is ok, sleep well, but the realities may be different. Already once in the morning we woke up, and there was no great country and no president! Maybe you forgot? And the realities on earth are already without Kherson, Zaporozhye, Slavyansk, etc...??? Only the Ukrainians do not agree with this!!! And Lavrov??? Well, our foreign policy of non-intervention is a series of failures (Ukraine, Armenia...). But what can you expect from a weak country? Only readiness to negotiate if there is no ability to impose your will! This is how the enemy acts - the United States, for example.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Added a plus. Let me add that from a weak country one would like to expect at least steps towards rapid strengthening, and not further decline.

[carpenter]

attempts to convince the Zelensky regime that “Ukraine has already won by maintaining its statehood.”

Yes, even if a square meter remains of Ukraine with the existing regime in Kyiv, the next war is a matter of time.
The West needs such “statehood”, but not Russia.

[Anton_from_Brest]

What kind of negotiations? What's the point of starting all this then? The sanctions will still not be lifted. You have to go all the way to the Polish border.

[Smoked]

To go to the Polish border, you need to understand why and what the benefits are from such an expensive enterprise in every sense.

[dmi.pris1]

To the end? With what forces? We hold the defense with those that we have, and with great tension. For an offensive, we need five times more forces and means. Where will we get them?

[Ivan Ivanov]

The problem is that the desire to take power anywhere is not visible either in the economy, or in culture, or in foreign policy. We are sitting in a trench, waiting for “worthy offers,” periodically throwing snotty baits, such as statements from the Foreign Ministry, articles by Surkov, who led us to success in Ukraine, filling the guarantor’s ears with outright garbage for 7 years.

[Anton_from_Brest]

Yes, I mean that until we reach the border, nothing will end. “Partners” have already shown that contracts are for them. Well, they will conclude a truce, and the shelling of Donetsk will continue as it was, while they think and agree on something, the West will stuff Ukraine with weapons and everything will start all over again.

[Neo-9947]

We will reach the Polish border. I don’t know how, but let’s say we get there.
What's next? Are our friends in Poland? Has the issue with our security been resolved? Or will things get worse?
The original plan was to make Ukraine a neutral buffer state in the shortest possible time, with little loss of life. Now this is impossible. All these readiness for negotiations are an attempt to bargain for at least something of what they planned to do.

[invisible_man]

I don’t know how, but let’s say we get there.

Excuse me, but weren’t you the one who planned the “first stage” of the SVO?

[Neo-9947]

I can’t understand why you burned me...

[Ivan Ivanov]

If we reach the Polish border, we will cover our borders from the south, everything is obvious here. There would be desire and resources.

[Murmur 55]

In short, there will be no negotiations in the near foreseeable future, TEH’s decree does not allow entering into negotiations, and no one will agree to our terms.

[Neo-9947]

What are “our conditions”?
Can I take a look out of the corner of my eye?

[Ivan Pchelin]

Our conditions are Crimea in the Russian Federation (see numerous conversations that it was given to the Ukrainian SSR illegally) and the independent state of Novorossiya, see the material about the construction of railways. It seems so, but this is my personal impression.

Earlier, on May 31, Prime Minister of the Russian government Mikhail Mishustin signed a decree on the creation of the federal state unitary enterprise “Railways of Novorossiya”, which will unite the railways of four new constituent entities of the Russian Federation under common management. FSUE Railways of Novorossiya will develop outside the Russian Railways network and report directly to Roszheldor.

https://topwar.ru/226856-v-rf-zaversheny-predproektnye-raboty-stroitelstva-zheleznodorozhnoj-vetki-iz-rostovskoj-oblasti-v-krym-cherez-dnr-i-zaporozhe.html

The illegality of the transfer is written, for example, here:
https://topwar.ru/226688-krymskij-deputat-pri-peredache-kryma-ussr-prezidium-vs-sssr-poshel-na-podlog.html

[Neo-9947]

Interesting. And what about Crimea was not in the Russian Federation before February 24?
In my opinion, everyone agreed to this, all that remained was to arrange some formalities and wait a little.

PS. By the way, I recently came across a situation that the Murmansk-Sevastopol train is not Russian Railways, it belongs to another company. And there are slightly different Rules.

[Nastia makarova]

Russian Railways never existed, so as not to fall under sanctions

[Ivan Ivanov]

It has long been clear that all agreements with partners, and especially with Ukraine, are not worth even a paper with their signatures. We will get a hostile, militarized formation with a frostbitten population, pumped up with modern weapons, with constant terrorist attacks (to which we will not respond) and a continuous threat of invasion.

[Ivan Ivanov]

“Railways of Novorossiya” will develop outside the Russian Railways network and report directly to Roszheldor.

Why create extra entities?

[Pavel57]

But what about the denafification and demilitarization of Ukraine?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Pavel57

But what about the denafification and demilitarization of Ukraine?

And we have already demilitarized old Ukraine. This is already a new Ukraine, with Western weapons that are only good to scare crows. Ryabov won’t let you lie.

[Neo-9947]

The grandmother remembered how she was a girl... She braided a gray tow into her braid

[Quetzalcoatl]

They are asking for negotiations in order to get out of the mess they (the authorities) brought us into (with people like that it wouldn’t have worked out any other way!). Next, sit well-fed and contentedly on the throne and next to it for the chosen ones, drawing out the last juices from the bloodless country (in every sense). And the people were once again misled and driven... Freezing the conflict, the gray zone and other delights. We live in interesting, but bad times.

[Si1vernn]

Try to go work in production and you will understand that workers have never earned as much as they do now, even taking into account current realities.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote from Si1vernn

Try to go work in production and you will understand that workers have never earned as much as they do now, even taking into account current realities.

What kind of production and how much do you earn there?

[Si1vernn]

Well, yes, humanists cannot understand. Now you can find machine operators, technologists and designers. There is a shortage of staff at our enterprise and our contractors; wages have more than doubled over the past year and a half. I'm not complaining, there is a lot of work and the salary is normal. The only people who don't get paid are those who don't want to work.

[Vinnibuh]

Are you for real? At the enterprise where I work, there are also not enough people, but there is a BUT, the salary is not increased, although it is not great anyway, and they do not plan to increase it. (at other enterprises, in advertisements there is one salary, but in reality, no.) Hey guys, I’m lying, they indexed us by 1000 in February.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

Well, yes, humanists cannot understand. Now you can find machine operators, technologists and designers. There is a shortage of staff at our enterprise and our contractors; wages have more than doubled over the past year and a half. I'm not complaining, there is a lot of work and the salary is normal. The only people who don't get paid are those who don't want to work.

Is that why you surf the Internet in the middle of your working day?

[Irek]

We will return the Black Sea coast to our homeland, then we can splurge.

[tatra]

This is not called negotiations, but an ultimatum, when one side sets conditions for the other side, and believes that that side is obliged to fulfill all of them.
Negotiations are when both parties set their conditions, but agree to give in. Therefore, all this can continue for a long time, with the LBS practically unchanged, and the death of military personnel on both sides.

[Vladimir M]

It looks like Surkov wasn’t making a special point about “North” and “South”.

[Ivan Ivanov]

It seems. The “successful” negotiator and “political grandmaster” did not appear in the central press out of nowhere.

[VLAD-96]

Once again send Varlamovich + Mudinsky to these supposed negotiations and you can put an end to Russia! We can immediately withdraw our contingent not only from the conquered territories, but also from the bordering 404th regions of Russia!

[Ivan Ivanov]

Then there will be TV reports about how our contingent is heroically helping the population to evacuate.

[Alexga]

More precisely, he said this:

“Our position remains valid: we are ready to negotiate, but to negotiate taking into account the realities that have now developed on earth and taking into account our position, which is well known to everyone, taking into account our interests, the interests of our security, the interests of preventing the creation of a hostile force on Russia’s borders the Nazi regime, which openly declared the goal of exterminating everything Russian on those lands that, both in Crimea and Novorossiya, had been developed, settled and settled by Russian people for centuries,” the minister said.

https://tass.ru/politika/18859271

[Huarabey]

Yes, no one understood this. It's not fashionable now. Now it is fashionable to shit on the command and the government. The tsips did a good job. With such “fellow citizens” there is no need for enemies. In fact, Lavrov voices his “readiness” for negotiations so that Western mongrels have less opportunity to continue trying to portray Russia as the world’s evil. NATO was preparing an invasion of Crimea and the LPR with the DPR, now they are faced with the fact that none of their plans worked and will not work in the future. And if they suddenly want to find a peaceful solution to the problem, then they know our conditions. And if not, then later new territories of Russia will be added and new realities will have to be taken into account.

[avia12005]

The negotiation mafia is at work.

Well, let's start negotiations. What next? People just can’t understand - what is the goal? Stop fighting on the line of contact? Make peace? Leave an anti-Russian plague on the lands of the former Ukrainian SSR? Shift responsibility for its elimination to descendants?

I wish I could understand something.

[Huarabey]

The goal is for NATO to understand that they will not be able to return Crimea, DPR, LPR to Ukraine (read NATO). As well as taking complete dominance in the Black Sea. This was precisely the goal of the SVO. Russia will not give up any of this. And even more if they want to continue.

[Russian_Ninja]

And before the Northern Military District, these territories were part of Ukraine in the usual sense (Crimea is Russian, and the DPR and LPR are at war)? And even before NATO’s North Military District, there was no such thing on the Black Sea, just like Ukraine with their boats.
And the initial goals of the Northern Military District were not at all like that

[Huarabey]

Exactly. Before the Northern Military District, these territories were considered by the entire Western world to be Ukrainian, under the temporary occupation of Russia. And NATO and Ukraine were preparing to seize them by force. Russia simply did not wait for NATO and Ukraine to complete their preparations and attack first. So the question of NATO dominance in the Black Sea was, at that time, simply a matter of time. And there is absolutely no need to voice the real goals of the SVO. Moreover, the officially announced goals are being fulfilled to some extent.

[Russian_Ninja]

Let's say something will change after the SVO? If these territories are specified in the agreement, then yes. But what if not, will the West consider them Russian anyway? Well, that's not true.
Regarding preparations for the capture, I don’t know. The forces were unequal in any case, and the pumping began a little later

[Huarabey]

So this is the task to force Ukraine to accept our conditions. And not just accept, but “iron” fix them in a “peace treaty” when it comes to that. (War cannot be eternal) So that those territories that exist now are clearly part of Russia and are recognized by everyone, and any attempt to shell them subsequently is tantamount to a declaration of war. Only this way and no other way. The longer they believe they can defeat Russia in this conflict, the more territory Russia will liberate. No matter what anyone says, the West will also be exhausted and drained of resources by a long conflict, no matter how hard they try to think that they can play for a long time. Then they will begin to weigh the risks, whether it is worth continuing to allow Ukraine to shrink, or whether it is time to stop the borders somewhere. No one can win Russia on their own field without the use of nuclear weapons.
As for preparing for the capture, they planned and prepared for it. 100 percent. There is no need to consider Russia a bloodthirsty monster, as the amers are trying to convince everyone, who, just out of the blue, suddenly attacked Ukraine without significant reasons. If Ukraine did not pose any threat to us, then why would it not fall to anyone? Let them at least tattoo swastikas on themselves there.

[Wayfarer_2]

What do you mean when you say “iron fix”? Sign with iron ink? Stop talking nonsense. Not a single agreement, not a single piece of paper is a guarantee that what is written in it will be fulfilled. Are the Minsk agreements not enough for you? A guarantee is provided only by the right of the winner, the right of the strong. The United States still maintains its occupation troops in Germany and Japan. Here everything is iron-clad.

[AdAstra]

But the reality on earth is somehow not very good. Donetsk was still being shelled, for example...

[Eug]

Any power in the surviving Ukraine will be categorically hostile to Russia, which will receive in full what the North Military District was supposedly intended to oppose. And considering Kissinger’s proposal to Zelensky that recently leaked to the media - territorial concessions to Russia in exchange for Ukraine’s membership in NATO - this is generally a stunning “victory”....

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Well done Lavrov... trolling genders is not childish...

[Pravodel]

Russia is ready for negotiations on Ukraine, taking into account the realities on the ground

It’s not entirely clear what the head of the Foreign Ministry means?
1. Will we end the war with the division of Ukraine along the Dnieper or those parts that returned to Russia, taking into account only the parts under the control of our troops!? What to do with that part of the new territories of Russia that have not yet been freed from banderlogs? Let's abandon our people there and return them to Bandera's slavery!?
2. Another regular Minsk with the subsequent restoration and arming of Banderstadt!?
It is clear that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has the task of saying everything in such a way as to say nothing, so that everything that is understandable suddenly becomes completely incomprehensible. But the people of Russia are not a foreign country, and the people of Russia must know the whole truth, they must know what the Russian army is fighting for, what our people in Ukraine are laying their heads down for. Otherwise, it turns out like with the war in Afghanistan, when the population of the USSR did not understand the goals and objectives of the war at all. Slogans about brotherly help quickly cease to work when a funeral and a zinc coffin with a son, father, or relative come to the family. Therefore, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs should speak out less within the country and cast a shadow over the fence. Within the country there should be only the truth and nothing but the truth.
During the Second World War, the leader who is so disliked by the liberals....you, I.V. Stalin, addressed the people of the USSR in the most difficult days and told them the truth. And now what, just victory marches and no truth!?..
It seems that the Russian leadership is trying with all its might to hide the true truth about the war from its people?!
During the Second World War, the people knew what they were fighting for and the goal was “to reach Berlin and destroy the reptile in his lair.” And now, what are we fighting for, what is the ultimate goal of this war. An abstract goal in the form of “denazification, assistance to the fraternal people, fulfillment of an international duty” is all fairy tales that are poorly understood by the people. The target must be specific, like a sniper's shot. Only such a goal is understandable to the people, and the people accept and support it.
PS
The purpose of the war in Ukraine is the liberation of Ukraine from fascism, from the Banderlogs, the liquidation of the fascist state, the removal of Ukraine from the power of the arrogant Saxons and the Gay European bourgeoisie, the return of the people of Ukraine to the Russian world. This goal is really clear.
Ensuring secure borders and other opportunities after the end of the war is a consequence of the main goal, and cannot be the main goal of the war itself.
The main question is why these goals have not been announced yet. The reason is the mistake that the Russian leadership made in recognizing the legitimate power of the Banderlog = Ukrofashists in Ukraine after the 2014 coup. Hence all subsequent actions: stopping the advance of the DPR and LPR militias after the defeat of the Banderstadt army near Debaltsevo, the Minsk agreements, etc. , etc.
How much easier it would be to resolve issues of war now if the power of the Banderlogs = Ukrofashists in Ukraine were not recognized as legitimate by Russia. But in history there is no subjunctive mood. Now we have what we have. Our army is fighting for survival, for the very existence of Russia.
And there is no need to scare the people of Russia with the next statements of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs about negotiations with Banderlog = Ukrofashists. Fascism in Ukraine must be destroyed at the roots. Our army must now complete what our fathers and grandfathers did not complete during the Second World War: completely cut out this cancerous tumor from the Russian world, so that subsequently no sprouts of this muck will sprout again in Ukraine, not the territory of the Russian world.

[tatra]

Enough of these wild fantasies, for a year now we have been talking only about the territories occupied by the Republic of Armenia, which Putin included in the Russian Federation, and the Ukrainian enemies of the USSR are trying to recapture them.

[NotPetya]

Remind me three things:
- How many times have we requested negotiations?
- How many times did they agree to them?
- How many times have we been asked to negotiate?

[Huarabey]

Sometimes I feel scared for people... What's wrong with you? Have you completely stopped mastering Russian letters? What words from Lavrov indicate that we are REQUESTING negotiations? Well, at least find one letter that speaks about this. Readiness for negotiations, on the previously announced conditions, is not a REQUEST for negotiations, but an indication of our position - “If you want negotiations, these are our conditions” EVERYTHING! If they don’t want to, let them continue to prepare to lose territories, which will also have to be taken into account later. Tsipso has completely screwed up a lot of people, as far as I can see.

[Huarabey]

P.S. Come on, tsipsOta, fly, minus))) It’s not right when someone else believes that at the top, after all, we have no fools and they know how to plan wars and Russia will once again defeat the fascist bunch and will not allow their plans come true. We should be like you, whining and snotting in the comments and liking each other for it.
One thing is just interesting: how will all these whiners feel later when Russia emerges victorious in this quarrel?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Warabey

One thing is just interesting: how will all these whiners feel later when Russia emerges victorious in this quarrel?

I also wonder how you will feel if Kherson, which became part of Russia, goes to Ukraine?

[Huarabey]

I don’t feel very good anyway, because Ukraine “got” Odessa and Kiev, for example, so what? We need to look at things realistically. Liberating all of Ukraine was probably not the goal. But what had already “fallen away” from them had to be preserved without fail.

[ximkim]

They still have something wrong there...
We are at war with Ukraine, and the Kremlin is all about negotiations. How can you even imagine this?

[alystan]

According to Sergei Lavrov, the Russian negotiating position is based on the fact that it is possible to negotiate taking into account the conditions prevailing on the ground (during the course of hostilities).

I don’t know, probably the Unified State Examination students have already “infiltrated” the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but as far as I remember, we were previously taught to write and speak “taking into account the conditions prevailing in land place." Meaning a specific area, territory.

[know]

There are desperate attempts to make peace on at least some terms. Because Putin-Lavrov’s foreign policy has failed, military victory in Ukraine, let’s be honest, is not expected - we are only talking about repelling Ukrainian offensives. Putin's elite has actually betrayed him and he is clearly afraid that he will be extradited to The Hague - to Milosevic's cozy cell. And therefore he will cling to power to the last. The situation in the economy is depressing; due to the mobilization and exodus of young, healthy men, there is no one left to work. The demographic situation is close to catastrophe. The fact that things are even worse in Ukraine is no consolation.

[Katya_Ivanova]

Right! Give me Minsk-3, Minsk-4, Minsk-5. More Minsks, good and different.

[solar]

Every day there is news. He said something different 4 days ago.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov made a statement that attracted attention both in Russia and outside our country. This statement was made following the results of the 78th session of the UN General Assembly.
According to Lavrov, Russia recognizes the territorial integrity of Ukraine within the framework of the 1990 Declaration of Sovereignty.

https://topwar.ru/226719-lavrov-moskva-priznaet-territorialnuju-celostnost-ukrainy-v-sluchae-priznanija-kievom-svoih-objazatelstv-ot-1990-goda.html

[Huarabey]

Where else? You took these words out of context. Under the terms of that agreement, Ukraine was non-aligned and neutral. Only under such conditions can we remember the borders of 1991. That is, if Ukraine wants to return to these borders, then no joining NATO. And this is now impossible, since Ukraine does not see itself without NATO. This is exactly what Lavrov means: Russia could recognize the borders of 1991, but Ukraine ITSELF does nothing for this and continues to harm itself, stubbornly striving to join the NATO stall. Didn't want to live in a big, free and neutral country? They will live in a smaller country and under the NATO boot. Still, it’s easier than steamed turnips if you just know how to read Russian.

[ZovSailor]

Wow, friends and foes!
I dare to declare to everyone who approved and did not approve of the actions of the Russian Foreign Ministry: you understand, the country’s diplomacy is not only tough and whip, otherwise the partners will not understand! And we have many partners in the Global South, Africa, South and Latin America, including China and the DPRK.
With all our different positions and our vision of the processes taking place in the world, we - the Russian Federation, as one of the emerging Centers of Power of the multipolar world, need to take into account and bring together the opinions and positions of everyone, including, say, India, Syria, Brazil, etc.!
Therefore, I think that it is impossible to “cut from the shoulder” in modern diplomacy the old fashioned way, but it is also not worth showing our softness and easy pliability!
And in Russian diplomacy, the country’s position is carefully verified and coordinated with the political leadership, including the time for submitting information, pauses, time for coordinating meetings with partners, and much more, in short.
I understand the impatience of many to quickly deal with the enemies, to save many human lives of our glorious soldiers, but the enemy is still strong and insidious!
And the diplomacy of the Russian Federation is the legacy of the USSR, you yourself understand what it is, when the words of the gentleman of the False Nedo-West were believed without papers and protocols, the consequences of that past time of our Soviet and Russian humanism will affect you and me for a long time! Well, of course, TsIPSota is minus our positives. Don't worry, we'll break through!
I have the honor.

[Huarabey]

I agree.)) We have broken through from worse conditions, and we will break through now. One thing is a little unfortunate, just as the arrogant Saxons fooled the population of Ukraine, so now the Chicks are trying to fool us and are having some success, judging by which posts are upvoted here and which are downvoted. But I am sure that even this will not help them and there are still plenty of adequate people.

[Vlatko_Radovic]

The greatest stupidity that is possible is an unfinished enemy. A wounded animal at hand, after 1-3 years of preparation, mobilization and equipment, will create such a massacre, in comparison with which today’s difficult situation is nothing! Now everyone is afraid of a vile agreement that has happened many times in the Past on the part of either presidents or Residents, like the “father” of the current ruler - B. Yeltsin! The consequences may lead to further and final Defeat of the Russian Federation. And Lavrov’s words seem to be correct: - “We proceed from preventing the creation of a hostile Nazi regime on our borders, which would openly declare the goal of exterminating everything Russian in those lands that in Crimea and Novorossiya have been settled and settled by Russians for centuries.” But then there is a hint that a conspiracy is being prepared with the worst enemy!
According to the head of the Foreign Ministry: “The longer Kyiv refuses to negotiate and accept objective realities, the more difficult it will be to negotiate.” And the first step, according to Lavrov, on Kyiv’s part should be to cancel Zelensky’s own decree banning participation in negotiations with the Russian Federation. Yes, “Chief and Sinless” put the wrong horse from the pack of national traitors. And it seems the leaders have their own secret paths. And if you go behind the scenes of the events - read to the end the declaration of the Personal Representative of the Russian Federation in New York: https://dzen.ru/a/ZCx26jRcrB-Wjv0P?utm_referer=www.google.com - then I’m sure you will experience a SHOCK - a lightning strike!

[Huarabey]

“The greatest stupidity that is possible is an unfinished enemy. A wounded animal at hand, after 1-3 years of preparation, mobilization and equipment, will create such a massacre, in comparison with which today’s difficult situation is nothing!”

But the medal has another side. Not only will the enemy prepare, but our country will too. Thanks to this conflict, things are getting better in our military-industrial complex and the defense industry and related industries are beginning to revive and improve. And in such conditions, NATO will think a hundred times before once again rushing headlong into an adventure. Their resources are also not endless, and their potential enemy is not only Russia, but also China and Korea. Which are also gaining momentum in military training, and we must somehow reserve our reserves of military resources for them. So in the future, it will be even more expensive to get involved with Russia than it is now. It’s one thing to deceive a weak country with a mess in its military-industrial complex with the Minsk agreements, and another thing to deceive a country that has already matured and is restoring its military capabilities. There, both in terms of communications and remote reconnaissance, NATO may not have the advantage it has now.

[Huarabey]

p.s. And most importantly: if Russia is subsequently attacked, war will have to be officially declared on Russia. And these are completely different conditions and methods of warfare.

[zimagor]

My opinion is that there is nothing wrong with concluding peace. It doesn’t matter which territories will or will not become part of Russia. The point is to conclude an agreement. Correct. On non-bloc status and other demilitarization measures in Ukraine. With this turn of events, we will take away the main goal that the West is imposing on Ukrainians. Become a battering ram against Russia. And only God knows what will happen there in a few years. They will have to create something new. And this requires a different format of thinking. And if our country (albeit doubtfully) somehow magically realizes that it needs to develop, then this Ukraine itself will eventually enter our sphere of influence. She simply will have no other way. Even despite all the hatred that now lies between our lands.

We need to think bigger and farther. We need to think about how to correct the mistakes of 1991. By force of arms you can return some of the territories, but with the help of “goodness and a gun” you can accomplish much more. And first of all, we need to think about our own country and develop it. Yes, for some time all these pro-Western countries around us will emanate anger, but you cannot argue against the realities. There will be an upsurge within us and they will subside over time and come to be friends. I also remember how one Ukrainian woman sent me photos of the Maidan in Kyiv where tires were burned and photos of the Olympics in Sochi, where fireworks bloomed in the sky. I threw it away with regret and envy. Man is a simple creature, we need to work with it.

[Wayfarer_2]

Taking into account what realities on earth? We have not yet completely liberated either the Donetsk or Lugansk regions; Avdeevka and Marinka alone are worth something. And there’s nothing to say about the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. These are the realities. And in this situation, should we start some kind of negotiations?