British expert: For the sake of maintaining influence in the South Caucasus, Russia actually supported the “seizure” of Nagorno-Karabakh by Azerbaijan

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British expert: For the sake of maintaining influence in the South Caucasus, Russia actually supported the “seizure” of Nagorno-Karabakh by Azerbaijan

The West is very concerned about the events of recent days taking place in the former unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) after this territory came under the control of Baku. But it is not the humanitarian catastrophe associated with the mass exodus of ethnic Armenians living in the region that worries Western politicians and experts.

British expert, specialist on the Caucasus, senior researcher at Carnegie Europe (recognized as a foreign agent in the Russian Federation) Thomas de Waal is confident that Russia refused to condemn the “seizure” of the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh by Azerbaijan, thereby actually supporting the actions of Baku, for the sake of maintaining and even strengthening its influence on South Caucasus in opposition to Western interests in this region. The expert provided relevant evidence on this topic in an extensive article for the American magazine Foreign Affairs, specializing in US foreign policy and international relations. Here are some of the main theses of the Caucasus expert.



He noted that the third war in Nagorno-Karabakh in recent decades ended with a swift and unconditional victory of Azerbaijan without any opposition from Armenia. The current mass exodus of ethnic Armenians from the region is reminiscent of the events of the 1990s in the Balkans. One of the reasons for this development of events was the almost complete inaction of the West in resolving the Karabakh crisis.

The loss of this territory since the centuries-old Armenian history and the legacy will be felt by Armenians for many years to come

- the expert predicts.

He believes that Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev is “celebrating complete victory” and intends to establish exclusively his own order on the territory of Karabakh, abandoning previously made promises of equal and fair treatment of the Karabakh Armenians. Under these conditions, some elderly Armenians could remain in Nagorno-Karabakh, and thousands of Azerbaijanis who lived there before 1991 could return. But of all the local institutions built there over three decades by the Armenian leadership of the NKR, almost nothing will remain, de Waal is sure.

The expert further accused Russian peacekeepers in particular and Moscow in general of condoning Baku’s “aggression” against Nagorno-Karabakh. Moreover, the Russian leadership actively brokered an agreement under which the local population agreed to the complete disarmament of their own “defense forces,” numbering several thousand, and the beginning of negotiations for their full “reintegration” into Azerbaijan.

For some reason, the British expert does not remember that earlier it was Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan who recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan by signing the corresponding document through the mediation of the European Union. But he complains that Russia will be able to maintain its peacekeeping forces now in the new (old) territories of Azerbaijan, while simultaneously “pushing aside Western mediators” in the person of the United States and the EU.

The actions of the President of Azerbaijan, who decided to “restore state integrity” despite the warnings of the West, have their own logic, de Waal admits. For two decades he has been the leader of an authoritarian state in which there are no democratically elected local officials and minorities enjoy little formal protection.

Why should he (the President of Azerbaijan) agree to Western demands for a conflict resolution model that forces him to offer autonomy to a national minority and weakens its power?

— the author of the article states another failure of Western missionaries.

Moreover, Aliyev apparently believes that Turkey and Russia, not Western countries, are the only powers he should take seriously. The Azerbaijani president is confident that Ankara will support his efforts to establish full control over Nagorno-Karabakh, Moscow will not interfere with this, and the West, having very little leverage in the region, will not be able to stop him. Russia's consent was crucial when Azerbaijan blocked the Lachin corridor in December last year, the expert believes.

He suggests that the conflict in Transcaucasia may not stop there and Armenia will become the next source of tension. Taking advantage of the blatant weakness of the impulsive and fickle Prime Minister Pashinyan, President Aliyev can lay claim to “Western Azerbaijan,” meaning the territory of Armenia. At the same time, his actions may be supported by Russia, given the fact that Pashinyan is increasingly distancing himself from Moscow and drifting in political and even military cooperation towards the United States and the EU.

The only “salvation” for Armenia, the author of the article believes, is to continue rapprochement with the West and European integration. If Armenia comes to a broader union with Europe, this will change the Caucasus, de Waal is sure.

But for the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh this rapprochement probably came too late

- concludes the British expert.
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    1. +10
      27 September 2023 13: 36
      British expert: For the sake of maintaining influence in the South Caucasus, Russia actually supported the “seizure” of Nagorno-Karabakh by Azerbaijan
      no one can be more Armenian than themselves.
      They chose it themselves, all the goodies are now theirs and only theirs.
      1. +7
        27 September 2023 13: 37
        No, only their buns - as always, we are to blame for the bumps. And not only them.
        1. +1
          27 September 2023 13: 58
          No, no, bumps, now and then, the same with them.
          Ours, by inertia, are climbing somewhere else, but it seems that this is the last thing, sufficient... and then we’ll see.
      2. +8
        27 September 2023 13: 46
        In all respects, it is more profitable for Russia to maintain relations with Azerbaijan. Judge for yourself, there is a common border, and the Caspian Sea, and oil fields, the price can be regulated, and the mutually beneficial trade turnover of goods and agricultural products, and interaction with Turkey (a bad world is better). And from a strategic point of view, Azerbaijan, although not a friend, is not an enemy either. Aliyev is an adequate politician, not a puppet. We must say goodbye to Armenia, this is the future Ukraine.
        1. +2
          27 September 2023 14: 02
          Azerbaijan... there, too, everything is not simple and the prospects.... in general, as long as Aliyev is there, radical changes in the policy of the state, it seems, are not expected, but... as always, this is BUT and there are a lot of options that you can talk about just guess.
        2. +2
          27 September 2023 14: 05
          Not quite so, because in Turkey, right-wing radical parties since the turn of the 19th century see the enemy in the form of Russia (let me remind you of the “gray wolves” and others). Erdogan has been in alliance with them since 2018 (because they did not support the coup and helped Erdogan) The Sultan benefits - through Azerbaijan has direct access to Central Asia (Pan-Turktism) Kazakhs and others have been sleeping for a long time and see how to trade energy resources bypassing Russia
        3. -1
          27 September 2023 14: 33
          Quote from Silver99
          Azerbaijan, although not a friend, is also not an enemy.

          You can argue that it’s not the enemy; after all, he sends weapons and mercenaries to Ukraine.
      3. 0
        27 September 2023 14: 01
        Pashinyan on a visit on May 9, 2019 in Karabakh.
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    3. +8
      27 September 2023 13: 41
      laughing
      Creature of Soros, that is, Pashinyan surrendered Karabakh to the CIA TWO times, first without recognizing its autonomy, then generally recognizing it as part of Azerbaijan - is Russia to blame? I’m not saying that the previous crisis and war before this, where they lost the NKR, was also actually provoked by Pashinyan, who was sure that since the CIA pushed him through, then all sorts of Azerbaijans would always have to do something to him - and he ran up in response over and over again in general, reasonable proposals from Azerbaijan on ways to resolve the status of the suspended NKR...
      The mattresses, represented by their puppet Pashinyan, have ALREADY chopped off Karabakh - and now, at this very minute - they are provoking Azerbaijan to a military solution to the issue of the corridor to Nakhichevan. And in the current situation, this will definitely lead to the loss of the south of Armenia - and who will be to blame? What if Russia is loudly asked “not to meddle in the internal affairs of Armenia”?
      And there is no need to interfere - let them kill themselves. In addition, American Armenia is not only not our friend. She is our direct ENEMY, what for such “friends”. Provocateurs is the mildest word
    4. +1
      27 September 2023 13: 43
      If Armenia comes to a broader union with Europe, this will change the Caucasus, de Waal is sure.

      There is no doubt about it, this will change the Caucasus. The centuries-old state of Armenia, which was the first to adopt Christianity, will disappear from the face of the Earth.
    5. +1
      27 September 2023 13: 46
      Caucasian specialist is too loud, goat specialist would be more suitable. Just two of his statements.
      1 . The loss of this territory with centuries of Armenian history and heritage will be felt by Armenians for many years to come.
      2. ....and thousands of Azerbaijanis who lived there before 1991 may return. But of all the local institutions built there over three decades by the Armenian leadership of the NKR, almost nothing will remain, de Waal is sure.
      These are the goat breeders sitting there.
    6. -3
      27 September 2023 13: 47
      The British expert is made of wood from the waist up, and from the head down. Armenia is located in the mountains, surrounded by our ally Iran, by our “sympathetic” Turkey, by “blooming and strong-smelling” Georgia and by Azerbaijan, which is trying to restrain itself. He won’t go anywhere with such neighbors, and at the same time he will become a little cold. If we put things in order on the Western border, then we’ll get to work on the East, the “former ones” have gone on a wild spree, they’ve gone to all kinds of troubles, it’s time to pull them by the hair...
      1. +3
        27 September 2023 14: 37
        Quote: isv000
        while Turkey is “sympathetic” to us

        Oh, they “sympathize” with us, our planes are shot down and pilots are killed, they supply weapons and mercenaries to Ukraine.
        1. +1
          29 September 2023 00: 59
          Study the information more often! In Syria and beyond, several hundred Turks and their henchmen have already been killed, dozens of pieces of equipment have been burned, you don’t think that this was done by ordinary Syrians!
    7. +1
      27 September 2023 13: 55
      Pashinyan backed the wrong horse....
      ........
      1. +3
        27 September 2023 14: 38
        Quote: Fedor M
        Pashinyan backed the wrong horse....
        ........

        So Pashinyan himself is the horse that the West bet on.
    8. 0
      27 September 2023 13: 56
      No one has canceled the Russian military base in Armenia, and the peacekeepers in Karabakh are not going to leave.
    9. 0
      27 September 2023 14: 04
      ...The only “salvation” for Armenia, the author of the article believes, is to continue rapprochement with the West and European integration...
      -------------------------------------------------- -
      Rapprochement and European integration with the West in practice means one thing - to lie under the West, lose all sovereignty and become another instrument in the fight against Russia
      1. 0
        1 October 2023 04: 12
        Everything is according to the arrogant-Saxon pattern: divide, play off and rule.
    10. +2
      27 September 2023 14: 07
      There was no inaction!
      On the contrary, little Nikola Pashinyan actively acted to destroy Armenian Karabakh, as such; during the war two years ago, he not only did not support the bleeding Armenian troops, but also directly forbade them to help and take part in the citizens of Armenia in these hostilities. Then he constantly interfered with the work of the ceasefire mission, and last fall, during negotiations under the auspices of Western countries, he officially recognized the Karabakh Lands as part of Azerbaijan, making the peacekeeping forces there illegal, as well as the Armenian self-defense forces. And in May he again announced Armenia’s refusal of these lands. Here the Azerbaijanis began preparations for the complete seizure of territories that Pashinyan legally recognized as foreign territory.
    11. 0
      27 September 2023 14: 10
      “For some reason, the British expert does not remember that earlier it was the Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan who recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan by signing the corresponding document through the mediation of the European Union.” Let's finish here, this is where he got burned, this British goat-eater-Caucasian specialist. The cat abandoned the kittens - Putin is to blame again am
    12. 0
      27 September 2023 14: 10
      “For some reason, the British expert does not remember that earlier it was the Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan who recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan by signing the corresponding document through the mediation of the European Union.” Let's finish here, this is where he got burned, this British goat-eater-Caucasian specialist. The cat abandoned the kittens - Putin is to blame again am
    13. +3
      27 September 2023 14: 16
      The capture of Karabakh was inevitable...it’s just a fact...and Russia has nothing to do with it
      1. -3
        27 September 2023 14: 42
        Quote: Berserk23
        The capture of Karabakh was inevitable...

        I don’t agree, this could have been avoided if Pashinyan had been removed from power in time, or even better if he had not been allowed to come to power at all.
    14. +2
      27 September 2023 14: 49
      He noted that the third war in Nagorno-Karabakh in recent decades ended with a swift and unconditional victory of Azerbaijan without any opposition from Armenia.
      So, what are the claims against Russia? Armenia itself didn’t want to do anything, but we should have?
    15. -1
      27 September 2023 15: 39
      Quote: guest
      You can argue that it’s not the enemy; after all, he sends weapons and mercenaries to Ukraine.

      Really? And do you have any real evidence on this matter? Or, as usual, just articles in the press and on the Internet?
      1. 0
        28 September 2023 15: 51
        Quote: Seal
        And do you have any real evidence on this matter?

        Well, actually, today evidence is still not so important, because for the West, “highly liked” is already proof. I have no connections with the intelligence services so that all the information I have is only from the media, such as this:
        https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2022/08/24/kak-azerbaydzhan-prodaet-aviabomby-ukraine-livanskiy-analitik
    16. -2
      27 September 2023 15: 46
      Quote: Berserk23
      The capture of Karabakh was inevitable...it’s just a fact...and Russia has nothing to do with it

      Well, it still doesn’t seem to have anything to do with it. Indeed, in many ways, Karabakh returned to the jurisdiction of Azerbaijan thanks to the firm position of Russia, which has invariably and consistently, since 1992, recognized Azerbaijan exclusively within its internationally recognized borders. That is, we recognized Azerbaijan and Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan. If it were not for this firm and consistent position of ours, no Turkey would have helped Azerbaijan here.
      It’s just that Pashinyan was the first of all the leaders of Armenia to understand that Russia is not joking about the issue of Karabakh’s ownership. It's sad that I realized it too late. Only in November 2020. Well, better late than never. And from the time he realized that Russia was not joking, Pashinyan built his policy towards Azerbaijan based on our position.

      PS Although, perhaps, Levon Ter-Petrosyan was the first to understand this, but then his term as President of Armenia was just ending, and the Karabakh clan did not allow him back to this post.
    17. 0
      27 September 2023 16: 31
      Quote: carpenter
      There is no doubt about it, this will change the Caucasus. The centuries-old state of Armenia, which was the first to adopt Christianity, will disappear from the face of the Earth.
      Tales again.
      1. Armenia will not disappear anywhere. Moreover, Armenia has such a roof
      https://anca.org/armenian-caucus/
      2. Armenia as a state in a historically reliable period took place simultaneously with the state of Azerbaijan. Namely in 1918. Everything else about how Armenia was a great state during the time of dinosaurs is fairy tales for young children.
      3. It is unknown when Armenia adopted Christianity. Since there are no documentary historical sources on this matter. However, not for all other accounts either. Again, just fairy tales.
      Moreover, it is not a fact that Armenians are even Christians now.
      It’s interesting, if someone meets a Russian or, say, a Pole, and he says his name: Perun or Veles or Chernobog and at the same time says that he is a true Christian - will it be possible to believe it?
      I suggest. see Armenian names.

    18. +1
      27 September 2023 21: 41
      As for maintaining our influence in Transcaucasia at such a price, it doesn’t sound serious...
    19. +1
      28 September 2023 13: 06
      It’s not clear why VO even publishes these foreign agents, especially British ones, since it’s beneficial for them (the British elites), so he will lie; they forgot how to tell the truth 200 years ago.
    20. +1
      28 September 2023 23: 53
      I think all this will be temporary. Nobody wants to have a business there. Russia is still occupied with Ukraine, everyone has attacked Russia. Armenia flirts with the USA
      Just as the sweetness passed into the hands of Arzebaijan, so it will pass back
      There will be a war; Armenia has little territory.
    21. 0
      1 October 2023 14: 12
      The fate of Nagorno-Karabakh was decided by Prime Minister Pashinin.

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