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State Duma Speaker: The US and the EU lost the “war of attrition” against Russia

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State Duma Speaker: The US and the EU lost the “war of attrition” against Russia

It’s no secret that the West, represented by the United States and the European Union, is actually fighting against Russia with the hands of Ukrainians. However, it is already obvious that they did not achieve their goals either at the front or with their sanctions.


According to the speaker of the lower house of the Russian parliament, Vyacheslav Volodin, Western leaders, including Biden and Stoltenberg, have begun to call the Ukrainian conflict a “war of attrition”, pouring huge amounts of money into the militarization of the Kyiv regime. The politician noted that the US and the EU lost the “war of attrition” against Russia, as evidenced by at least a network of facts:

1. Shortage weapons and ammunition from the West, which was previously discussed in London and Washington, noting that the national stockpiles of weapons have been exhausted.

2. Western leaders are losing public support because of their policies on Ukraine. Thus, the activities of the leaders of the United States, Germany and France - Biden, Scholz and Macron - are disapproved by 57%, 72% and 69%, respectively.

3. The obvious failure of the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces that began in June, which is already recognized by Western experts.

4. Problems in the economy of leading Western countries, an example of which could be the reduction of social benefits to low-income families in Germany or the cancellation of food assistance to those in need in France.

5. The Ukrainian army is suffering significant losses, which are increasingly difficult to replace, which is why the country began to mobilize men over 50 years old, patients with tuberculosis, hepatitis, HIV, etc.

6. Economically, Ukraine has become bankrupt and is unable to fulfill its obligations to citizens without Western assistance.

7. Demographic catastrophe in Ukraine. Due to millions of refugees and the loss of territories to Russia, the country has lost more than 50% of its population, Volodin notes.

These 7 facts speak for themselves: - either the surrender of the Kyiv regime on the terms of the Russian Federation, - or Ukraine will cease to exist as a state

- concluded the State Duma speaker.
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  1. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 25 September 2023 09: 48
    +31
    However, it is already obvious that they did not achieve their goals either at the front or with their sanctions.
    Obviously, such opuses achieve their goal less and less.
    1. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 25 September 2023 10: 10
      -1
      Nevertheless, it is too early to calm down.
      Ukrainian authorities have begun implementing a plan to seize Crimea. At the moment, Kyiv is transferring troops to the Kherson sector of the front, preparing to cross the Dnieper.

      Military expert Boris Rozhin announced this on Sunday. He noted that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have already deployed 6870 people, 46 tanks, 223 armored combat vehicles and eight artillery pieces to the Kherson direction.

      The transfer of the 38th Ukrainian separate marine brigade and seven artillery battalions is also expected soon. All these forces were withdrawn from the Vremevsky site.

      https://dzen.ru/a/ZRASQ_41jCZqvKYX
      1. shikin
        shikin 25 September 2023 15: 35
        +1
        You can’t transport equipment (and even that many troops) across the Dnieper on motorboats. Pontoon bridges will be needed, and several. There is no need to talk about any factor of surprise. There will be plenty of time and opportunity to react, I hope ours won’t be screwed up. But active work on crossings by army aviation and kamikaze drones will definitely be ensured. They will also be able to use bombs with UMPC on pontoons.
    2. credo
      credo 25 September 2023 10: 23
      +19
      Either Vyacheslav Volodin said this once again for personal complacency, or he sacredly believes in everything that is written and said day and night in the domestic and Western media.

      Personally, for the population of Russia and for all of us, I would wish only one thing - not to slip into the unbridled belief that the United States and the EU really lost a “war of attrition” to Russia. Judging by the reports from the “front-line and economic fields” there is no trace of this and our victory is not yet visible on the horizon.
      So it’s better that we remain realistic than become unbridled optimists surrounded by a pack of seasoned and merciless wolves. I wish the same to Vyacheslav Volodin. soldier
      1. Egeny
        Egeny 25 September 2023 10: 36
        -11
        ...are you talking about the “royal” ones?
        Well, yes, what do you want from the “speaker”, he is Volodin.
        The “darkest” one is another matter; he must calculate the situation, but not miscalculate, I still believe him.
        1. AUL
          AUL 25 September 2023 11: 15
          +1
          Quote from Egeni
          Well, yes, what do you want from the “speaker”, he is Volodin.
          Talking is not moving bags! (C)
  2. ivan_zaitsew
    ivan_zaitsew 25 September 2023 09: 50
    +19
    You shouldn't expect anything else from this character.
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 25 September 2023 10: 07
      +10
      Did he decide to take a piece of bread from Medvedev ///?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 25 September 2023 10: 20
        -18
        Volodin says correctly, the West had the opinion that we would crush Russia with its 2% of GDP in the world economy with sanctions and were already standing with a sack at the tree of the world economy in order to catch the falling Russia at their feet and cut it into pieces. So it is with the military power of NATO, if they were sure that they wouldn’t rake in the lyuli, on February 26, 2022, all our seaports would be blocked, and NATO aviation would be stationed in hundreds of planes at our borders. And NATO would declare at the UN that it is ready to strike in retaliation without using nuclear weapons. Nothing. this did not happen. NATO is fighting us within clearly defined boundaries.
        1. Irokez
          Irokez 25 September 2023 12: 19
          -8
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Volodin says it right

          I support you because people of this level don’t just say that, which means they have the right words and their position obliges them.
          And the fact that some “speakers” (forum members) exaggerate and turn everything around (in order to register on the forum) is all Moskin’s barking or simply not understanding how to evaluate what is happening. In the short term, we are not entirely winning, although we are holding up well, but in the long term, yes, the West is losing, but the Mosques don’t know this; they need to bomb everyone here and now and hoist the flag not only in Kuiva, but also in the capitals of all Europe.
          And if our government does something not according to their (the pug’s) orders, then another bark like from the opera “the cat abandoned the kittens - that means the GDP is to blame.”
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 25 September 2023 13: 04
            -5
            Irokez. I no longer pay attention to those who vilify our economic policy, citing the USSR as an example. And no one can explain how the second economy in the world turned into “zilch” in 2-3 years. Maybe they were wrong? They can also understand, those who criticize GDP and its environment, they are looking into their own pocket. The most resonant economic articles on VO generate a maximum of 600 comments, half of which are the same commentators. With 40000 - 100 views of the article! hi
          2. astepanov
            astepanov 25 September 2023 16: 48
            +6
            Quote: Irokez
            people of this level just don't say that
            That's right. Their job is to talk. Especially about the bright future awaiting us. And also - think about people, tirelessly and continuously. All my seventy years I have been hearing about the fact that life has become better, life has become more fun, and if sometimes something happens here and there, it is solely the fault of the uncles from over the hill, and ours are entirely staunch fighters, fiery rednecks and benefactors. And we already have one foot in heaven (I’m sorry, in a bright tomorrow), and in just a little bit we’ll begin to live, and even, perhaps, working pensioners like me will no longer be able to enjoy their pensions. I would like to ask Mr. Volodin: since we have already defeated everyone, is it time for me to wait for my nephew to return from the Northern Military District? When will he return: tomorrow or the day after tomorrow? Or is he now restoring the economy there and fraternizing with the Ukrainians?
            1. Irokez
              Irokez 25 September 2023 19: 31
              -6
              Quote: astepanov
              Since we have already defeated everyone, then it’s time for me to wait for my nephew to return from the Northern Military District? When will he return: tomorrow or the day after tomorrow? Or is he now restoring the economy there and fraternizing with the Ukrainians?

              And you, a person who has lived for so many years, wise by experience and the wisdom of life, still do not understand the words spoken by the government. You exaggerate and distort. No one has spoken about the end of the Northern Military District or about the fall of the West even now. The confrontation will go on for a long time and they will lose in it, and that’s what it says.
              1. astepanov
                astepanov 25 September 2023 21: 43
                +5
                Quote: Irokez
                And you, a person who has lived for so many years, wise by experience and the wisdom of life, still do not understand the words spoken by the government.
                Don't say "gop" until you jump over. Victory reports can wait. Even during the SVO, they have already promised so much, and we have defeated the adversary more than once... But in reality, we have been marking time for the second year. Isn’t it clear that if it had been possible to quickly defeat the enemy (as they intended at first), then this would have been done long ago? But there is no trace of this. Meanwhile, the guys have been there since the beginning of the SVO without rotation, without rest. It's unbearably hard. My nephew has been to the bathhouse once since March, but has never seen a field kitchen. Both he and his colleagues buy equipment with their salaries, because crawling on their bellies and doing daily earthworks wears them out very quickly. They also buy food, because on dry rations for more than six months - nothing good. I have heard a lot from those who are fighting there, but I will not tell you for obvious reasons. One said this: “If Shoigu had come, then at least they would have brought us a field kitchen and a bathhouse.” And so, instead of getting down to business, the talkers in power are wagging their tongues and spreading demagoguery. He, Volodin, would go to LBS, but without warning, and look at reality. Look, it would be useful. And so - just wag your tongue.
                1. Irokez
                  Irokez 25 September 2023 22: 47
                  -3
                  I can only say what they said in the army during the service: “Standfastly endure all the hardships and deprivations of military service.” And that's it. War is not a resort or a safari, and therefore there is no need to tell how pleasant it is, and most of the military know this (and even in the Ministry of Defense). My nephew himself was there in the first days, and miraculously, he didn’t have a scratch from being flown in twice. Therefore, keep yourself without emotions and do not work for CEPSO.
                  1. astepanov
                    astepanov 26 September 2023 08: 37
                    +1
                    Quote: Irokez
                    “Standfastly endure all the hardships and deprivations of military service.” And that's it. War is not a resort or a safari, and therefore there is no need to tell how pleasant it is, and most of the military know this (and even in the Ministry of Defense).

                    In your opinion, the only difficulty at the LBS is when there is no field kitchen for six months, no one bothered to supply water, and there is not enough equipment? Everyone knows that war is not a resort. They shoot and kill there. But this does not mean that the fighters can be ignored and left to rely only on volunteers. More than six months at the front is already a feat. And don’t refer to the regulations: difficulties for a soldier are useful during exercises, but at the front, creating difficulties for your own people, and not for the enemy, is a crime. Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov once ordered the execution of negligent supply officers. And this is a real manifestation of respect for the Soldier.
        2. Normal
          Normal 25 September 2023 13: 28
          -11
          Everything is true, everything is true. There are too many alarmists. People are basically the same everywhere. Many people are bored in Russia, just like in Sumeria, people want pictures.
          “The Ukrainian telegram community claims that Zelensky demanded that Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny and the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate Budanov provoke Russia into a powerful missile strike with a large number of civilian casualties. The fact is that Bankova came to the conclusion that “emotional” diplomacy has ceased to be effective , while returning to traditional methods of work leads to negative results." ©
          A couple of days ago, one hysterical woman from the forum called me a “hypocrite” because I did not share his opinion after the Sumerian attack on the Black Sea Fleet building in Sevastopol. Even then, I tried to explain my position by saying that the Sumerians needed a response, so that we would fall for our emotions and strike at Bankova. Then the junkie will have an informational reason to scream that “good people, look what the aggressor is doing to peaceful people, they are beating residential areas and so on.” But the hysterical woman did not agree, hysterical women generally do not agree if their opinion is not shared, for this I became a “hypocrite”, receiving a good bunch of minuses)
          And now I am absolutely sure of what I said days earlier. They ransacked the empty building; tonight we completely destroyed the facilities in Odessa, which are much more practical in terms of their use.
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 25 September 2023 15: 18
            -10
            Quote: Normal
            There are too many alarmists.

            I look at the number of pros and cons by topic and I understand. That these are not alarmists, these are the very so-called “patriots” whom America is relying on to undermine Russia. You are not happy with the “regime”, you criticize the authorities supposedly with the “best” intentions, that’s it, you are already mature, you are already “ours”, you are grist to the mill of the ideologists from Washington. All these critics of power think that they are like “independent thinkers”, with “non-standard thinking”, but in fact, they are ordinary posers. They pretend that they are not like everyone else.
      2. Andrey Dibrov
        Andrey Dibrov 25 September 2023 13: 40
        -3
        Quote: Clever man
        Did he decide to take a piece of bread from Medvedev ///?

        not
        Finland
    2. Aag
      Aag 25 September 2023 10: 08
      +7
      Volodin is a proper name
      or adjective?
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 25 September 2023 12: 59
        +4
        Quote: AAG
        Volodin is a proper name
        or adjective?

        That rare case when any option is applicable.
  3. Alex66
    Alex66 25 September 2023 09: 51
    +7
    The politician noted that the US and the EU lost the “war of attrition” against Russia, as evidenced by at least a network of facts
    We must wait for the capitulation and find out under what conditions it will be signed, then it will become clear who lost.
  4. Mishka78
    Mishka78 25 September 2023 09: 53
    +23
    Boltology and populism have always been his strong point. And it’s also strange that he didn’t add that we have a popularly elected and beloved leader, but they don’t have one.
    1. vvn_vl
      vvn_vl 25 September 2023 10: 03
      +7
      The main thing is for the family business to prosper... And we can talk about the rest
  5. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 25 September 2023 09: 53
    +19
    Lost the war of attrition??!! It’s just beginning. I’m not talking about the Slavs, this all started to crack at the beginning of the last century. But about us, citizens of Russia. There is a gradual extermination, planned and precisely carried out. With replacement by Asians and so on. .
    1. Smoked
      Smoked 25 September 2023 10: 39
      +1
      Well, yes. For the most part, we cannot live for the sake of children and the expectation that they will not abandon you in old age. You need an apartment, a car, benefits, to see the world and generally live for yourself.
  6. Galleon
    Galleon 25 September 2023 09: 54
    +24
    “Don’t boast, good fellow, when you go to battle, but rather boast when you return from battle,” - so it seems in Russian fairy tales.
    All these premature declarations of victories and holding parades during the war leave a feeling of some kind of incompetence and ignorance of the leadership. If not, dementia.
    1. Belisarius
      Belisarius 25 September 2023 10: 59
      +11
      Quote: Galleon
      All these premature declarations of victories and holding parades during the war leave a feeling of some kind of incompetence and ignorance of the leadership. If not, dementia.

      Not really. Representatives of this leadership are well aware of one of the main rules of bourgeois propaganda - the lie must be monstrous and as brazen as possible. The average person simply cannot believe that one can lie so brazenly and shamelessly and begins to look for some meaning in it.
      Citizen Volodin himself perceives the “dear Russians” to whom he tells all this as an element of the landscape, this is the electorate to which you can “sniff” any nonsense and not even wince.
  7. IL-18
    IL-18 25 September 2023 09: 54
    +9
    Well, 7 points talk about objective processes, not about losing. And, despite the changed rhetoric regarding Zelensky, assistance to Ukraine continues to be provided, and not weakly.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 25 September 2023 09: 59
      +17
      The Kremlin transferred a billion to Kyiv for gas alone. Not to mention the rest.
      1. Irokez
        Irokez 25 September 2023 12: 31
        -13
        Quote: Gardamir
        The Kremlin transferred a billion to Kyiv for gas alone

        And he earned even more. If you talk about the negative, then think about the positive.
        From cutting off gas to Ukraine, it (Ukraine) will still be compensated by the collective West, and we will only lose from this, and how do we mean “freezing our ears off to spite our grandmother.” And the supply of gas under early contracts is also a mandatory condition, if we violate it, we will pay fines.
  8. Bingo
    Bingo 25 September 2023 09: 55
    -24
    The 5 “experts” above could not object to the ESSENTIAL WORDS.
    There’s nothing to add here - the speaker is right.
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 25 September 2023 10: 08
      +5
      Tell me, how many Americans and how many Russian guys died in VNA? We’re not talking about equipment, it’s hardware
      1. Bingo
        Bingo 25 September 2023 10: 43
        -14
        Is there anything to object to what has been said? No?
        As for your losses, this is a fact:
        The consistent fatality rate in large-scale troop movements (not just exercises) is 2 per thousand.

        Can you imagine, even during exercises there is a planned percentage of losses, now let’s count the losses in people in the United States due to the wave of drug addiction that has overwhelmed them as a result of the crisis?

        In fact, you can’t compare one or the other? Who lost the war of attrition due to losses in people - although the speaker did NOT talk about this? Again you are a babble, not even a populist, just a loudmouth!
        1. dmi.pris1
          dmi.pris1 25 September 2023 10: 52
          +13
          In essence, the superiority of the West in technology, industry, finance, is there anything to say? What do you know about our losses from drunkenness and drug addiction?. A region in the Krasnodar Territory, 32 thousand population - 15 fighters have returned forever... These are facts, not stupid HURRY!
    2. Asad
      Asad 25 September 2023 10: 16
      +14
      And are you also right about the fact that without Putin there will be no Russia? As for exhaustion, the West is at least thicker
      1. Bingo
        Bingo 25 September 2023 10: 34
        -21
        It’s stupid to respond to YOUR nonsense that you sucked out of thin air - the speaker didn’t say that. You are lying, and again - not a word of objection on the merits
        1. Asad
          Asad 25 September 2023 11: 11
          +9
          Bingo. On October 23, 2014, this phrase was uttered, and 24 Putin corrected the zealous official.
    3. evgenii67
      evgenii67 25 September 2023 10: 36
      +16
      Although I didn’t write above, i.e. I’m not the same expert you mentioned, but I’ll try to answer the main points:
      Lack of weapons and ammunition.
      Are you really so naive to believe that the military-industrial complex and the economy of Western countries are weaker than the economy and military-industrial complex of Russia?
      About demographics and big losses. Yes, Ukraine certainly has problems with this, but if they are so stubborn and really want to the last Ukrainian, then, to put it mildly, it’s a problem. According to various estimates, their mobile reserves can range from 4 to 7 or 8 million. In this case, again, according to various estimates, together with the seriously wounded, they lost from 200 thousand to 500 thousand. At the same time, no one tells us about our losses, but I think the difference there is not 7-8 times less than Ukraine’s losses, or even, as we were told on TV, 10 times less, but at best 2-3. About the economy of Ukraine, such as obligations to the people, all this will be assumed by the Western masters for the duration of the Northern Military District.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 25 September 2023 13: 08
        +1
        Quote: evgenii67
        About demographics and big losses. Yes, Ukraine certainly has problems with this, but if they are so stubborn and really want to the last Ukrainian, then, to put it mildly, it’s a problem.

        They also have Poles for this and mercenaries from all over the world.
    4. Irokez
      Irokez 25 September 2023 12: 45
      -6
      Quote from Bingo
      5 "experts" above - could not object NOT A WORD

      It’s in vain that you get into an argument with the nearsighted; they can’t see beyond their noses. For them, the principle “here and now” is important, and if according to this principle it is not entirely good, then it means we are not going the right way. Those who cannot plan for the future lose in it and at the same time try to win in the present without realizing that this present has already been planned in the past by other players. That is, in the present the gain is minimal compared to the planned future.
  9. Irek
    Irek 25 September 2023 09: 56
    +9
    This is of course nice to hear, but nothing is finished yet.
  10. Omega options
    Omega options 25 September 2023 09: 56
    +11
    Hmm... it seems that the West hasn’t given even 10% of its weapons...
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 25 September 2023 10: 09
      +12
      And then the West will launch its industry at full strength.
      ...Have you forgotten Lend Lease?
      1. dmi.pris1
        dmi.pris1 25 September 2023 10: 21
        +7
        They are already doing this. So far, only in terms of ammunition. In the production of aviation equipment, they have long surpassed us. In terms of technology, microelectronics, we are generally silent here. In terms of armored vehicles? Well, it showed who Hu is on the battlefield.
  11. opuonmed
    opuonmed 25 September 2023 09: 56
    +10
    1. The shortage of weapons and ammunition in the West, which was previously discussed in London and Washington, noting that the national stockpiles of weapons have been exhausted.

    The main thing is that this is not a trick! They can say a lot of things and on purpose! and everyone keeps shooting and shooting!
    Problems in the economies of leading Western countries, an example of which could be the reduction of social benefits to low-income families in Germany or the cancellation of food assistance to those in need in France.
    Yes, it seems like the leader of the United States is doing well with this) probably in the West prices have skyrocketed 2-3 or 5 times for groceries, cars, gasoline, and electronics or not?
  12. AdAstra
    AdAstra 25 September 2023 09: 59
    +10
    I would like his optimism...""""""
    1. Russian_Ninja
      Russian_Ninja 25 September 2023 10: 54
      +5
      So they don’t need to worry or worry about anything. In any case, they will be covered in chocolate. The small fry will suffer at most, and so will the voters.
  13. Al manah
    Al manah 25 September 2023 10: 02
    +12
    All that remains is to bring this to the US and EU and convince them of this. Let him get busy, otherwise he’s sitting without work, talking nonsense out of boredom.
  14. Volunteer Marek
    Volunteer Marek 25 September 2023 10: 03
    +18
    Well, it turns out that everything is so simple - we declare that we have won and that’s it! Brilliant!
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 25 September 2023 13: 11
      +5
      Quote: Volunteer Marek
      Well, it turns out that everything is so simple - we declare that we have won and that’s it! Brilliant!

      We have already won several times in Syria. I have no doubt that we will win more in Ukraine. At the same time, it is not a fact that we will reach Kyiv.
  15. Eliminator
    Eliminator 25 September 2023 10: 05
    +12
    1. The shortage of weapons and ammunition in the West, which was previously discussed in London and Washington, noting that the national stockpiles of weapons have been exhausted.
    But equipment weapons and missiles continue to arrive (judging by VO reports)

    2. Western leaders are losing public support because of their policies on Ukraine. Thus, the activities of the leaders of the United States, Germany and France - Biden, Scholz and Macron - are disapproved by 57%, 72% and 69%, respectively.
    And when did they decide something?

    3. The obvious failure of the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces that began in June, which is already recognized by Western experts.
    Far from victory yet

    4. Problems in the economy of leading Western countries, an example of which could be the reduction of social benefits to low-income families in Germany or the cancellation of food assistance to those in need in France.
    They will survive, not for the first time

    5. The Ukrainian army is suffering significant losses, which are increasingly difficult to replace, which is why the country began to mobilize men over 50 years old, patients with tuberculosis, hepatitis, HIV, etc.
    Promotion, a lot of people were still sitting in online toys

    6. Economically, Ukraine has become bankrupt and is unable to fulfill its obligations to citizens without Western assistance.
    I agree, but there is Uncle Sam

    7. Demographic catastrophe in Ukraine. Due to millions of refugees and the loss of territories to Russia, the country has lost more than 50% of its population, Volodin notes.
    Perhaps I?
  16. vvn_vl
    vvn_vl 25 September 2023 10: 06
    +18
    but we won: try to list what has not yet risen in price by less than 20 percent... I figured: it seems like only toilet tablets
  17. vvn_vl
    vvn_vl 25 September 2023 10: 06
    +1
    but we won: try to list what has not yet risen in price by less than 20 percent... I figured: it seems like only toilet tablets
  18. Tiksi-3
    Tiksi-3 25 September 2023 10: 07
    +11
    Is it true? .....where is the pact of surrender of the capitalists?
  19. A2AD
    A2AD 25 September 2023 10: 07
    +20
    He forgot point 8, the most important one. His face doesn't fit on TV. So there is no question of exhaustion. At least for him personally.
  20. Million
    Million 25 September 2023 10: 09
    +11
    Such statements must be made after the end of the war.
  21. dump22
    dump22 25 September 2023 10: 10
    +11
    However, it is already obvious that they did not achieve their goals either at the front or with their sanctions.


    Unlike us, we apparently achieved our goals both at the front and with our counter-sanctions?
  22. huggi
    huggi 25 September 2023 10: 10
    +20
    “The USA and the EU lost the “war of attrition” against Russia” - it is for this reason that once again we have to deal with gasoline prices and its availability in general in the victorious country.
  23. Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 25 September 2023 10: 14
    +11
    Quote: Volunteer Marek
    Well, it turns out that everything is so simple - we declare that we have won and that’s it! Brilliant!

    Of course it's brilliant, it's like winning an election with 76% in favor, similar to Mr. K's posts, and confirmed by caring for tigers and weekly holidays and festivals...
  24. Nikodim
    Nikodim 25 September 2023 10: 14
    +13
    “You need to have a snack” (from) film “Ivan Vasilyevich is changing his profession”

    fool
  25. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 25 September 2023 10: 16
    -6
    the speaker is right on points 3,5,6,7, the rest is debatable, but even if all this were true, the most important point is missing - the surrender of the Ukrainian army
  26. Gankutsu_
    Gankutsu_ 25 September 2023 10: 20
    +12
    Well, our deputies are damned exhausted. It is a fact.
  27. Reindeer herder_2
    Reindeer herder_2 25 September 2023 10: 27
    +2
    We are waiting for Dmitry Anatolyevich’s clarification on this issue on Friday.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 25 September 2023 11: 49
      -2
      I watched the evening news yesterday. NATO generals conferred. Not to say that they are really slender. But compared to Russian koloboks from headquarters, they look more advantageous.
  28. Vladimir M
    Vladimir M 25 September 2023 10: 48
    +15
    Volodin is a balabol. We are “fighting” with the collective West, only the West is doing this through the hands of Ukraine, and we are losing our people. Ukraine is fully coping with the tasks that the West has set for it; no one has set Ukraine the task of conditionally “capturing” Moscow.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 25 September 2023 10: 54
      +10
      Quote: Vladimir M
      Volodin is a balabol. We are “fighting” with the collective West, only the West is doing this through the hands of Ukraine, and we are losing our people. Ukraine is fully coping with the tasks that the West has set for it; no one has set Ukraine the task of conditionally “capturing” Moscow.

      Even a complete defeat for the West will be very beneficial if after this Ukraine remains a zone of complete ruins with an almost extinct population. In fact, it will completely devalue the annexation of new territories and greatly reduce the number of Russian-speaking people in the world.
      1. from_Czechoslovakia
        from_Czechoslovakia 25 September 2023 17: 15
        -2
        Quote: BlackMokona

        Ukraine will remain a zone of complete ruins with an almost extinct population.

        Ukraine? Almost all military operations are conducted on Russian territory! hi
        1. Irokez
          Irokez 25 September 2023 19: 38
          +1
          Quote: from_Czechoslovakia
          Almost all military operations are conducted on Russian territory!

          Which only recently became Russian. In your opinion, if Ukraine becomes, for example, Russian territory, then all the devastation and death of people up to this point was purely on Russian territory, as if in a civil war?
      2. Irokez
        Irokez 25 September 2023 19: 43
        -1
        Quote: BlackMokona
        In fact, it will completely devalue the annexation of new territories

        The territory has never been useless for any country.
        - Firstly, the territory will push back its borders with NATO
        - Secondly, a fertile territory that your extinct population can cultivate
        - Thirdly, there are many other fossil resources in this territory
        - Fourthly, industry and knowledge of people in the areas we need will remain undestroyed
        - and so on, a lot more can be said
  29. shm_kv
    shm_kv 25 September 2023 10: 52
    +15
    If our troops were in Lvov, then we could say this. In the meantime, it’s just another mischief that doesn’t lead to anything good.
  30. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 25 September 2023 11: 52
    +7
    at the top there are all talkers, they carry their tongues like a broom, and the real business is with a gulkin’s nose
  31. Shamil88
    Shamil88 25 September 2023 12: 47
    +7
    Is he not normal at all? What is he carrying? how out of touch they are with reality, soon two years of Northern Military District, LPR, DPR and border regions in ruins, tens of thousands of dead civilians and military on our side, Northern Military District has turned into a trench war of the First World War, which has no end, and all this is due to the mistakes of the planning leadership the whole operation, and this slime rubs in about the exhaustion of the West, while the fat one dries, the thin one dies
  32. Alekc
    Alekc 25 September 2023 13: 50
    +6
    Let Volodin go to the front and help drain the West, empty talker
  33. runway-1
    runway-1 25 September 2023 15: 40
    +4
    Another news event from the series “A statement in itself, a reality in itself”, in general, agitprop performed by an official... winked
  34. ShDE
    ShDE 25 September 2023 21: 43
    +1
    A popular proverb says: don’t say gop until you’ve jumped over. Official patriotism. If we are waging a war with the “West,” then we will continue to exhaust it and exhaust it. And we don’t have a billion people
  35. Vlatko_Radovic
    Vlatko_Radovic 25 September 2023 21: 51
    +4
    I did not expect such demonstrated limitations and weak IQ. Or maybe this is a mask, disguises the intellect, plays with the people, pretends to be a sort of “one of our own” Simpleton? Because in many respects the fault is not only the GRU, the Moscow Region, Rostec, Roscosmos, but the State Duma. They wrote laws, figured out how to more cleverly introduce new taxes, but they lost State control over defense. And of course, the situation on the front line is not so “painted”. Does he think we are stupid Altai sheep? Now access to information is free, almost any document can be found skillfully. And they paint a completely different picture – alarming! The most important lesson of the 19-month SVO today is the weakness of the reconnaissance component of our aerospace forces - in space and in the air, as well as the lack of specialized AWACS and control aircraft, and electronic warfare. Due to this, the Russian Aerospace Forces today show barely 10–15% of their real potential.” S. Shoigu stated that the Russian Armed Forces are currently holding an active defense, the purpose of which is to knock out the enemy’s equipment and personnel.” I hope that he understands the main danger of trench warfare: it, as E. warned. AT. Prigozhin, - is associated with insane losses. In addition, it will not allow achieving the goals of the SVO for a very long time. The MO time factor has been missed! Now we can say with confidence that the Analytical Conclusion of the GRU of the Moscow Region on the weak military-mobilization state of Ukraine presented to the President was unqualified, and in some respects. even fake. In addition, it turned out that the Russian Federation itself is completely unprepared for either mobilization or support. Remember how those mobilized with their last funds bought uniforms and armor. It turned out that outer space is filled with more than 12.000 NATO satellites, and we have only 192 in stock. What kind of victory are TV and the leader of the State Duma talking about when the country in 570 days could not even gain dominance in the airspace. But General Giulio Douhet proved that “To have air superiority means to win!” Roscosmos planted the main pig of the Russian Federation by supplying 130 RD-180 and RD-181M rocket engines to the United States; now hundreds of spy satellites launched with their help effectively guide enemy missiles and UAVs at our most important targets. And D. Rogozin did a disservice to England; with the help of the Soyuz, he delivered 444 spy satellites into orbit. And after all, the Permission to conclude contracts with the United States and England was signed by both Dr. FSB and the Chairman of the Security Council, the Minister of Defense, Chief. GRU, prev. State Duma, Chairman of the Government - D. Medvedev. I just want to ask: “Who do you really serve, ministers?” With the beginning of the Northern Military District, the front found itself without AWACS and U.S. aircraft. Without them, there can be no talk of any priority in the conquest of airspace! How impossible it is to fight competently without Digital Communications, without Counter-Battery Systems, without Long-Range Artillery, without the “Coalition” promoted by Rostec, without electronic maps of the area, etc., etc. Victory requires the mobilization of all forces and means, and not the dissipation of the country’s resources, like the stupid show-offs of the Luna-25 program, when the Russian Federation suffered enormous Image and Financial damage, equivalent to the costs of the Ministry of Defense for the purchase of 2850 T-90M tanks. Now it is not clear what is happening; over the past 19 months, real positive steps are visible only in UAVs. The rest is a huge bubble of bragging. There are signs of Carelessness and Sabotage by “managers” who are in no hurry at all. It turns out that Victory is needed only by the people and patriots of Russia on the front line, and the billionaires - the “hands of the drivers”, godfathers controlled by the State Duma, are already living well... This will definitely not end well, because... NATO, which has become obsolete, is becoming more impudent every day. This is more than 1,1 billion people, an advanced economy. They have already studied the weaknesses and capabilities of the Russian Federation. We must not forget in war about the Main thing - the TIME Factor.
    1. Irokez
      Irokez 25 September 2023 22: 59
      -5
      Quote: Vlatko_Radovic
      While time is working against us!

      Yes, this is for now and in the short term, although how to look at it and from what side. With the Outskirts we are still standing still, but the Outskirts is not the final goal of the Northern Military District.
      Take it and analyze further and higher - the goal is to re-divide the world, and in the long term, not everything is so bad. We will watch and concentrate.
  36. Masada II Car Limo Service
    Masada II Car Limo Service 26 September 2023 04: 15
    -2
    Here on the thread there are either stupid readers or TsiPsoshnya, who for 1 ruble a day scribble on the keyboard.... What should the Speaker say, and where in his words is at least one WORD about victory??? He simply stated the FACT that the USA and the EU miscalculated.....!!!!
  37. Soul of Russia87
    Soul of Russia87 26 September 2023 18: 24
    0
    For propaganda to work, you need to add at least a pinch of objective reality. In the USSR during the war, when it was necessary, the military machine trumpeted that “the enemy will be defeated,” but did not forget to honestly report about the retreat with battles in front of the hordes of Nazi invaders! Russian propaganda in 2023 has only achieved that it is no longer taken seriously and even listened to; people, in search of a dose of reality, are forced to go to outside the system military officers and even, God forgive me, to the enemy!
  38. Serg Sto_2
    Serg Sto_2 27 September 2023 08: 56
    0
    The American military leader explained the goals of the anti-self. weakening the refe - weakening China. calculations show that in 2027 NATO stands near the Volga. the goal is a Stalinist storage room - Siberia and the Far East. a pro-Western mineral extraction zone. not a South-East one. that’s why it’s worth dancing.