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The Ministry of Defense decided to form reconnaissance and assault brigades as part of combined arms armies and army corps

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The Ministry of Defense decided to form reconnaissance and assault brigades as part of combined arms armies and army corps

Reconnaissance and assault brigades will appear in the Russian Armed Forces; the decision on their formation was made taking into account the experience of a special military operation. The new formations will be part of combined arms armies, as well as army corps.


The Russian military department decided to create reconnaissance and assault brigades. The need to have such specialized units was shown by the experience of special operations; the formation of new formations has already begun. The tasks of the new brigades are hidden in their names - reconnaissance and assault. The brigades will include reconnaissance units capable of conducting reconnaissance behind enemy lines, as well as assault units capable of breaking through the enemy's layered defenses. The new units will receive all the weapons necessary for this, including heavy and light armored vehicles, artillery, etc. Intelligence will be equipped drones various types.

The brigades will receive their Tanks, light armored vehicles, artillery, as well as a wide range of drones. The personnel of the assault detachments will be trained to fight in confined spaces - trenches, buildings, bunkers and bunkers - and in their skills they will not be inferior to special forces soldiers

- report "News" with reference to sources in the Ministry of Defense.

It is emphasized that from the very beginning of the special operation, our troops were faced with the need to crack the layered defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which took years to create. At the same time, the Russian Armed Forces did not have specialized units created specifically for breaking through defenses; ordinary ones had to be adapted for these tasks. Today, units and formations have created assault reconnaissance and maneuver detachments capable of breaking into enemy defenses and conducting battles in various conditions. But this decision is at a tactical level, but was necessary at a strategic level. Now it has been accepted, the experience of the new assault troops will be used to create brigades.
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  1. Silver99
    Silver99 25 September 2023 08: 01
    -11
    So, after all, there are already Airborne Troops in the Russian Armed Forces, and they have similar tasks and weapons that correspond to the stated goals, why come up with something. Again some kind of incomprehensible reform.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 25 September 2023 08: 05
      +2
      Whose idea is it about such brigades? GSH? Minister?
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 25 September 2023 10: 23
        +1
        Whose idea is it about such brigades?

        The whole news is contained in this:
        “The military operation showed the need to have specialized units for storming fortified areas. At the initial stage, there were many problems due to the fact that the scouts were used not for their intended purpose, but as attack aircraft. Because of this, many highly qualified specialists were lost,” Colonel Valery Yuryev, chairman of the Union of Russian Paratroopers, told Izvestia.

        That's all, the information in Izvestia is based on this.
        1. Egeny
          Egeny 25 September 2023 10: 44
          -5
          Alex, everything that is done is for the better, and sometimes... it is not done.)
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 25 September 2023 08: 15
      0
      Quote from Silver99
      Airborne troops, and their tasks are similar and the weapons correspond to the stated goals

      Well, this is a separate branch of the military, but here in each corps there will be native units.
    3. tchoni
      tchoni 25 September 2023 08: 22
      +21
      The armament of our airborne forces does not correspond to the stated goals and is poorly suited for work on the front line as infantry, even if well motivated. And all because our airborne forces were armed in accordance with a bad concept from the last century, implying the possibility of some kind of “vertical coverage”... That is, landing at least a regiment somewhere behind enemy lines (yeah, that’s how it is for you) allowed three dozen IL-76s to be dragged to the conditional rear).. Therefore, our airborne forces, every time a conflict arises where they are used, quickly change into motorized rifle equipment. This is how it was in Afghanistan, this is how it was in Ichkeria, and this is how it is now.
      1. AG-76
        AG-76 26 September 2023 15: 42
        0
        The Airborne Forces are considered “airborne” only on paper.
        In fact, since the times of Afghanistan, then in Chechnya, paratroopers have been used as elite infantry. With the current air defense systems, landing from the air is tantamount to suicide; it won’t even come to landing, the planes will be shot down. You can already forget about this tactic of mass airborne assaults.
        Even in Gostomel, troops were landed from helicopters, not parachutes.
        And the Airborne Forces themselves may and should be repurposed into such reconnaissance and assault units...
    4. AlexWar
      AlexWar 25 September 2023 08: 32
      +3
      You can't send troops everywhere. When you urgently need to attack. Unit coherence is important. This is special forces using the DON-100 as an example; previously there were such units
      The Armed Forces of Ukraine do this, how many assault brigades do they have and how many do we have?
    5. knn54
      knn54 25 September 2023 09: 49
      +3
      Why reinvent the wheel - there is a unique example of the use of assault troops and groups during the capture of Kenicksberg. The strongest LAND fortress in the world was taken in three days. Our irretrievable losses amounted to less than 4000 people. The DEFENDING Germans had about 42000.
      1. bayard
        bayard 25 September 2023 17: 19
        +1
        Quote: knn54
        there is a unique example of the use of assault troops and groups during the capture of Kenicksberg. The strongest LAND fortress in the world was taken in three days.

        Then, and not only during the assault on Königsberg, the main role was played by massive artillery preparation of heavy 152 and 203 mm guns. With a very high density of guns per 1 km. front
        If it is not possible now to provide massive fire suppression of the enemy, then it is better to refrain from such assaults and accumulate forces.
        Assault and reconnaissance-assault brigades are good. The fact that they will have their own tanks is also good and will ensure the best combat interaction. But the mentioned “light armored vehicles” are unacceptable for ASSAULT formations. Heavy armored vehicles are needed for assault infantry - TBTR and TBMP on a tank chassis and with the same level of protection as a tank. And in light of the experience of the Northern Military District, as well as in view of the fact that Russia has at least another 10 years of wars and military conflicts ahead, it is necessary to change and make the structure of our Ground Forces heavier. Ideally, each full-strength motorized rifle and tank division should have a heavy (!) assault brigade... or, in the worst case scenario, a regiment.
        And all airborne divisions must switch from alloy BMD to full-fledged BMP-3M and armored personnel carriers based on them. Moreover, the BMP-3M should be in the “Dragoon” or “Manul” modification (the combat modules are different there), but certainly with front-mounted MTO, a convenient troop compartment and a NORMAL ramp. The parachute method of landing equipment should be abandoned due to the fact that such landing is physically, practically and economically impossible - no one will allow us to do this, and we don’t have a large military air force with heavy landing aircraft.
        Equipment dropped by parachute will be left only to reconnaissance and sabotage units. Let's say one battalion per division and/or one company per regiment. The Airborne Forces must carry out airborne landings and be used as Rapid Deployment Forces. Like the MP of the Russian Navy.
        1. Sergei_Bely
          Sergei_Bely 26 September 2023 15: 37
          +1
          It is necessary not to train infantry, but to equip the army with various kinds of robotic platforms. Starting from Terminators, ending with robots capable of delivering poisonous gases into the trenches at night.

          Plus, it is necessary to prepare tank-mounted platforms capable of transporting and launching Odab 500 type bombs at a safe distance.

          The best assault is when funeral teams come in to bury enemies turned into a bloody mess.
    6. Alexey Lantukh
      Alexey Lantukh 25 September 2023 20: 09
      +1
      The Airborne Forces are not intended to break through defenses and carry out fairly serious defensive operations. What is needed is not airborne forces, but airborne forces of various specializations.
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 25 September 2023 08: 04
    -11
    I don't even know what to think. They create, implement and things are still there today. It's all so sad.
  3. Goto
    Goto 25 September 2023 08: 08
    +1
    It is emphasized that from the very beginning of the special operation, our troops were faced with the need to crack the layered defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which took years to create. At the same time, the Russian Armed Forces did not have specialized units created specifically for breaking through defenses; ordinary ones had to be adapted for these tasks. Today, units and formations have created assault reconnaissance and maneuver detachments capable of breaking into enemy defenses and conducting battles in various conditions. But this decision is at a tactical level, but was necessary at a strategic level. Now it has been accepted, the experience of the new assault troops will be used to create brigades.

    What didn’t please the special forces? Isn't it their job? And why not teach the rest of the infantry the same thing?
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 25 September 2023 08: 10
      -12
      Musicians used to storm. Special forces Akhmat. And now is there no one left?
      The Moscow Region itself “dispersed” the musicians.
      1. bayard
        bayard 25 September 2023 17: 29
        +2
        Quote: Nexcom
        Musicians used to storm. Special forces Akhmat. And now is there no one left?

        Wagner is a PMC, and foreign registered.
        Akhmat - Special Forces regiment of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        And the Army MUST storm cities and highly protected enemy defensive lines.
        Less than a year and a half had passed since a sensible thought visited the high offices of the Moscow Region. And it’s good that I visited.
        But the armored vehicles such assault brigades need are not cardboard/tin armored vehicles, but full-fledged ones - HEAVY. In addition to MBT - BMPT (as an assault infantry support vehicle) and TBTR (and TBMP based on it). On a tank chassis, with a tank level of armor and the CORRECT layout - with the engine in the FRONT and a comfortable/spacious troop compartment in the REAR. And a mandatory ramp for quick and convenient dismounting.
        Otherwise, they will create well-trained assault infantry, but with completely unusable equipment. Russian women don’t give birth to new soldiers now in vain, so we need to TAKE CARE of the soldiers. Moreover, they are so well prepared and for such important tasks.
        1. Sergei_Bely
          Sergei_Bely 26 September 2023 15: 44
          +1
          Why storm cities and lose soldiers if you can wipe the city off the face of the earth along with the defenders?
          1. bayard
            bayard 27 September 2023 08: 57
            0
            Quote: Sergey_Bely
            you can wipe the city off the face of the earth along with the defenders

            You, Sergei, did not serve in NATO headquarters?
            There's only one way and they can't do it any other way.
            And for us, these are OUR cities. With our people in them, who, even despite the monstrous shelling and lengthy assaults, were waiting for our fighters in the basements.
            Don't forget that we are fighting on our own land.
            And the Nazis are on the one captured from us.
    2. Most kind
      Most kind 25 September 2023 08: 11
      +6
      There are few of them, but here the brigades are part of the armies, the Army is being created anew
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 25 September 2023 08: 12
        +13
        It’s as if in the 1990s and earlier there were DSBs on purpose. They dispersed them later, and now they are creating them again?
        In my presence they were dispersed, the officers were shoved in all directions (those who were close in age were generally sent to civilian life). Like what for are they - peace, friendship, chewing gum, “God bless America”, etc.
        The head of the medical department of one infantry battalion was then appointed head of a shabby little garrison hospital.
        I remember I remember how they destroyed everything.... First they destroy everything (and people’s lives) and then they have to create everything again.
        1. Region-25.rus
          Region-25.rus 25 September 2023 09: 37
          +5
          It’s as if in the 1990s and earlier there were DSBs on purpose.
          and even earlier, in the Second World War there were SHISBR, OSHISBR and I don’t remember the abbreviations yet. They started creating it during the battles for Stalingrad. And even earlier, separate (specially trained) assault units were used to break the “Mannerheim Line” during the Soviet-Finnish War. So...after the Victory they forgot. Khpusch relied on rockets. Well, they are reviving it again.
    3. Vasily I
      Vasily I 25 September 2023 08: 32
      +3
      No.
      Do not confuse light infantry with “heavy” infantry.
      Not long ago there was an article https://topwar.ru/225611-shturmovye-chasti-pervoj-mirovoj-vojny-kak-obrazec-dlja-rejhsvera-1920-h-godov.html about what assault units are. In WWII there were assault battalions (flamethrowers, cuirasses and other non-standard ones).
      Approximately the same problems can be solved at the modern technical level.
    4. tatarin1972
      tatarin1972 25 September 2023 08: 45
      +8
      The question is, what special forces are you talking about? The GRU special forces brigades have slightly different tasks; they are mainly focused on reconnaissance and sabotage. Special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for anti-terrorism and demonstrations. There were similar units during the Great Patriotic War. Assault engineer brigade - formation (formation) of engineering troops of the Reserve of the Supreme High Command in the Red Army. They were precisely intended for breaking through deeply layered enemy defenses and fighting in the city. Today there are no such units. The airborne assault units of the Russian Armed Forces were also trained for other tasks.
    5. George Sviridov
      George Sviridov 25 September 2023 09: 14
      +4
      What special forces? Spn gru parts?
      He is subordinate to the General Staff, and a frontal assault is not exactly their task, plus unnecessary and irreplaceable losses.
      They teach infantry, everything.
      There will simply be a different organizational structure, not like that of motorized rifle brigades.
      They will most likely have larger squads, and more heavy weapons, most likely tactical level UAV operators as full-time positions.
  4. lukash66
    lukash66 25 September 2023 08: 15
    +6
    So there is already experience of the Second World War, dep. assault engineer brigades. They were very effective.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 September 2023 08: 16
    +3
    The Russian Armed Forces will have reconnaissance and assault brigades
    Everything is natural. The SVO makes adjustments, including and into the staffing structure. As I understand, the attitude towards the training of military forces of these formations and the units included in them will be more comprehensive and functional using the combat experience of special operations.
  6. Vladimir M
    Vladimir M 25 September 2023 08: 22
    +4
    From the name it is not very clear the purpose of these created units. In fact, reconnaissance and assault units have different tasks and different weapons - some work behind enemy lines, others storm the front line. It is clear that any assault unit must also include a reconnaissance unit, acting in the interests of its particular assault unit. Or did someone just come up with a “nice” name?
    1. George Sviridov
      George Sviridov 25 September 2023 09: 22
      +3
      Well, firstly, army special forces do not always operate in the rear. Most often this is an activity in the gray zone. In order to expose firing points, reveal the beginning of the enemy’s offensive, intercept enemy drgs, and terrorize enemy observers with sniper fire.
      The reconnaissance and assault troops will have the task of scouting out the enemy’s location and then carrying out an assault.
      Most likely there will be reinforced squads, with a large number of heavy weapons, and full-time tactical-level UAV operators who will conduct reconnaissance in the interests of each assault group.
      Well, roughly how it was organized among the Wagners.
    2. Dmitry_Likhoded
      Dmitry_Likhoded 25 September 2023 09: 54
      0
      This is what is happening now, we just decided to increase the scale. For example, in the reconnaissance battalion of one of the brigades of the Central Military District, where I serve, each company has an assault platoon, and the other two are engaged in reconnaissance and fire adjustment. And when the stormtroopers run out, everyone who remains in the company goes on the assault. This is the use of intelligence. And all because motorized riflemen do not have enough skills and they are supposedly sitting on the defensive. There are three infantry battalions in the brigade, and scouts are sent for the assault. True, recently they began to form special assault battalions, and criminals (Storm-Z) are brought in. But they sometimes refuse to go on the assault.
  7. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 September 2023 08: 27
    +3
    Everything is as usual. Instead of reforming the Aerospace Forces, providing them with the ability to crush enemy air defenses on the ground, and, having gained air supremacy, ensure isolation and, in the future, encirclement of enemy fortified areas, followed by forcing them to surrender, we are creating structures that will hammer away at these fortified areas head-on...
    And it’s not that the matter was wrong; the army, of course, needs special units that can penetrate the enemy’s defenses. But to focus on them is almost as if, on the eve of WWII, the Germans, instead of maneuver warfare, trained assault groups to break through the Maginot Line. By the way, the Wehrmacht had such attack aircraft, and they played an important role, but...
    1. white fall
      white fall 25 September 2023 09: 38
      0
      Until an infantryman sets foot on the battlefield, the objective is not captured. And with missiles from airplanes, at least ambush him all the way. This does not negate the need to build up the Air Force, but not caring about the infantry is the last thing
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 September 2023 10: 09
        +2
        Quote from Whitefall
        but don't care about the infantry, that's the last thing

        The comment says
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        And it’s not that the matter was wrong; the army, of course, needs special units that can penetrate the enemy’s defenses.

        Do not read?
    2. George Sviridov
      George Sviridov 25 September 2023 09: 39
      0
      How do you see the VKS reform? They do not need to be reformed so much as they need to be built up. And, first of all, to increase the grouping of drlo aviation... In addition to the A-50/p-100, it would not be bad to resume production of drlo helicopters, or K-31 in Kumertau, or for the Aerospace Forces to create a version based on the Mi-8.
      It is the Americans who are required to have airplanes; they need to fly to other continents; for us, helicopters can often cover not all of our needs, of course, but a significant part...
      A couple of helicopters should constantly hover 24/7, well, at least over each army corps, and also work in the interests of air defense and aerospace forces...
      The A-50/A-100 aircraft are very necessary, but helicopters are cheaper, simpler and can greatly relieve the load on the aircraft.
      Well, introducing UAVs is understandable, but it’s not so much a reform as an increase in staff.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 September 2023 10: 17
        +5
        Quote: Georgy Sviridov
        How do you see the VKS reform?

        1) Creation and saturation of the VKS with specialized electronic warfare, AWACS, reconnaissance aircraft in the required volumes
        2) Development and training of air operations to suppress enemy ground air defense with integrated forces (VKS + army aviation + KR + OTR + radio technical troops)
        3) Everything is the same as in point 2, but against the systemic air forces of the world.
        4) Managing the interaction of video conferencing with others. branches of the military - planning of operations, communications, reaction speed, etc. Simply put, here it is necessary, for good, to first give birth to the concept of modern war in general, and then integrate the VKS into it
        Quote: Georgy Sviridov
        it would be nice to resume production of DRLO helicopters or K-31 in Kumertau

        No need at all. Because a helicopter, in principle, does not solve AWACS issues. This fully applies to the Ka-31.
      2. PROXOR
        PROXOR 25 September 2023 10: 54
        0
        Isn't an aircraft-type UAV simpler? And not only as AWACS. But also as search engines for the Navy.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 September 2023 12: 32
          +3
          Quote: PROXOR
          Isn't an aircraft-type UAV simpler?

          It’s not easier, and it’s not necessary. Large reconnaissance UAVs, in principle, have their niche, but cannot replace full-fledged RTR/AWACS reconnaissance aircraft
      3. Yaroslav Tekkel
        Yaroslav Tekkel 26 September 2023 20: 52
        0
        Against Ukraine, AWACS helicopters may be useful. And then, there is no certainty. Against an enemy with aircraft - hardly. Thanks to the radar, they glow like a Christmas tree. They cannot maneuver to evade V-V missiles like fighters. They also cannot hang far in the rear like AWACS - their radars are much smaller and weaker due to the size of the carrier itself. They also cannot cling to the ground like ordinary pinwheels - then they themselves will not see anything. It turns out to be just a target.
  8. Smoked
    Smoked 25 September 2023 08: 28
    +1
    Brilliant. They couldn’t go to war, a normal war, like in the best houses in Landon and Paris, in which you need to reset the enemy’s air defense so that your own aircraft can throw thick, controlled cast iron at these bunkers and bunkers, stack the houses in which the enemy is sitting, and generally completely destroy the enemy anywhere and everywhere because it’s WAR, not an operation, which means we need new troops, infantry that will be sent to break through such a defense. Gorgeous. Women are still giving birth.
    Sorry, but it seems to me that in these bunkers and bunkers, the reinforced concrete is not like the Germans in the Second World War, 8-9 meters long, to penetrate which the Allies dropped 10-ton bombs. The only problem is the air defense, which does not allow you to calmly do whatever you want in the air.
    1. vargo
      vargo 25 September 2023 09: 06
      +3
      The only problem is the air defense, which does not allow you to calmly do whatever you want in the air.

      So you answer yourself. Why are you indignant then?
      There is no solution to air defense and is not expected for many years, neither for us nor for the enemy. And, as you can see, we have to fight right now. So what are you outraged about? You can see for yourself the reasons for such decisions.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 September 2023 21: 11
        +5
        Quote: vargo
        There is no solution to air defense and is not expected for many years, neither for us nor for the enemy.

        If by enemy you mean the Ukrainian Armed Forces, then yes, they do not have such a solution. If NATO, they have long been accustomed to destroying ground-based air defense, and they have everything for this
      2. Garris199
        Garris199 26 September 2023 02: 25
        +1
        Is there a communication solution? Each infantryman will be equipped with a digital station, are there base stations, are there repeaters in the required quantity, are there spare parts? Will all armored vehicles of the reserve armies be equipped with digital communications? There is a solution for reconnaissance, small reconnaissance UAVs, ammunition, tactical medicine, mask networks, etc. And then we immediately started a song about AWACS.
      3. Yaroslav Tekkel
        Yaroslav Tekkel 26 September 2023 20: 57
        0
        Quote: vargo
        There is no solution to air defense and is not expected for many years, neither for us nor for the enemy.

        For obvious reasons, we missed this at VO, but Scalp still decides on air defense. He showed this in the interval between the shipyard and the fleet headquarters. Moreover, the French themselves consider this missile already obsolete. In “many more years” they are preparing more interesting solutions.
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 26 September 2023 21: 12
          -1
          Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel
          The scalp still decides on air defense

          He's not the only one. Plus guidance from the same Posedons. Yasha, don’t drive the wave. There was a case, they are working with him.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 25 September 2023 08: 29
    +1
    The Ministry of Defense decided to form reconnaissance and assault brigades as part of combined arms armies and army corps
    . It is clear that changes in the tactics of conducting wax operations require corresponding changes in the structure of units, and other necessary changes in joints and other governing documents. The main thing is to do everything wisely, as it should be.
  10. Oleg Ogorod
    Oleg Ogorod 25 September 2023 08: 29
    0
    It is emphasized that from the very beginning of the special operation, our troops were faced with the need to crack the layered defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which took years to create. At the same time, the Russian Armed Forces did not have specialized units created specifically for breaking through defenses; ordinary ones had to be adapted for these tasks. Today, units and formations have created assault reconnaissance and maneuver detachments capable of breaking into enemy defenses and conducting battles in various conditions. But this decision is at a tactical level, but was necessary at a strategic level. Now it has been accepted, the experience of the new assault troops will be used to create brigades.

    It was the 20th month of the Northern War...
  11. tchoni
    tchoni 25 September 2023 08: 30
    +5
    Reconnaissance-assault sounds to my ear like a ballerina-weightlifter. But this is all nonsense. As they say, even if you call it a pot, just don’t put it in the oven. I remember the last time they tried to create something like this - they called it “separate engineering assault battalions” or something like that... But then the idea somehow died out... I hope this time the premiere will take place at the proper level. And these guys will be armed with equipment that corresponds to the tasks, for example, heavy armored personnel carriers, tanks, and other kits a la “Permyachka” and not shishigi, as was the case in the DShB.
    1. tatarin1972
      tatarin1972 25 September 2023 08: 52
      +1
      Excuse me, what DSB are you talking about? Our 876 ODShB included BTR-80, NONA-S, MTLB, Ural-4320.
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 25 September 2023 11: 54
        0
        At the time of its formation, in the early seventies, the ODSB did not have armored vehicles on its staff. And it consisted of motorized infantry. Then changes were made... And when they were introduced into hot spots, they were transferred to motorized rifle equipment.
  12. Kesha1980
    Kesha1980 25 September 2023 08: 39
    +6
    They copy Wagner's tactics.
    Assault squad = 1 reconnaissance platoon, 5 assault platoons, armored group, engineer platoon (small), air defense group, fire support platoon.
    In the assault platoon:
    - fire support section (ATGM, mortars, heavy machine guns, LNG);
    - 3-4 sniper pairs + individual “marksmen” directly in the assault groups;
    - assault groups (6-12 fighters) with a machine gun and grenade launcher(s);
    - evacuation section (combat supply and withdrawal of 300s from the red zone);
    - poultry houses, spotters and antidrones;
    - 3-5 sapper-attack aircraft (for Gorynych there is a separate calculation - 7 pencils is the norm) to clear detected obstacles and create breaches in the walls of the defending enemy.
    - MTO unit (lots of repairs);
    - gunsmith (lots of work with trophies).
    In principle, they coped with the assigned combat missions.
    Give us more grenade launchers, preferably analogues of the “Gnome”, throw on some “suitcases” and go ahead.
  13. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 25 September 2023 08: 41
    -11
    Returning to the brigade structure is the right thing to do.
    Serdyukov is being criticized in vain.
    All these regiments-divisions-armies are window dressing for the generals.
    The brigade should consist of small battalions and a variety of mobile
    specialized units.
    1. Yaroslav Tekkel
      Yaroslav Tekkel 26 September 2023 21: 00
      0
      I agree that Serdyukov is being criticized in vain. But about divisions - no. Brigades are for the poor. Poor either in money or in people. The Americans, the Chinese, even the South Koreans use divisions and don't buzz. Moreover, the division can be like a Soviet corps.
      1. Alexander Golotov
        Alexander Golotov 27 September 2023 01: 09
        +1
        Tell the distant one, what is the difference in what to call a connection if essentially everything comes down to one thing? Well, let’s say not one division, but 6-7 brigades will operate on the front sector? Do all of you listed above have experience of such a war as we are now witnessing? Especially the Chinese? The same Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have divisions and, as the experience of the Northern Military District has shown, this does not bother them. They didn't collapse. But in the current realities of war, large formations are generally a complete headache. Because they still have to be divided into indecently small groups and shuffle through the plantings and abandoned areas, otherwise you will receive highmars or something else as a gift. As for the organization of command and control, it’s not a matter of regular organization, it’s a matter of communications and the system of command and control, as it seems to me. You can control one division and have no idea where your fighters are or what is happening on a separate section of the front. Or you can introduce network-centric warfare technologies where all military units from the infinitely small to the infinitely large are in a single system, something like an army CRM. Then troop control will be at a different level. When all information, starting from the branch, will be sent online to the card
  14. dnestr74
    dnestr74 25 September 2023 08: 59
    +1
    ...They dispersed special forces brigades, like the asbestos brigade, for example.... Which actually fought, combat regiments, like 276 SMEs, where officers went through two companies... There are no words, apparently now they are targeting former “musicians”.
  15. AdAstra
    AdAstra 25 September 2023 09: 03
    0
    Do you have personnel for this? And then on paper we raised the number of MeVeDe to almost a million, but in reality there were no people.
    1. hazarn
      hazarn 25 September 2023 10: 15
      +3
      Quote from AdAstra
      Do you have personnel for this?

      The mobilization base has been prepared, the Ministry of Defense has issued an order regarding those with limited suitability for a contract (who doesn’t remember signing a contract with those who have been mobilized), the men will be caught up, the point here is different - there are no people at industrial enterprises, we can’t fill the vacancies. The Russian Federation is not Ukraine, its partners will not feed it. As soon as they mobilize again, the economy will begin to collapse like a house of cards, and the current gasoline crisis in an oil country is already an alarming moment.
      1. Yaroslav Tekkel
        Yaroslav Tekkel 26 September 2023 21: 07
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        Yes, it is very reminiscent of WWI. When there seemed to be enough people in the army, and they even more or less filled the military industry with qualified workers, but they did it at the expense of the railways and - oops - transport collapsed.
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 26 September 2023 21: 15
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          Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel
          Yes, very reminiscent of WWI

          Not once and not in any place. Yasha, I understand that you are paid for this, but still, don’t push the wave. Wash yourself Yes
  16. Rom8681
    Rom8681 25 September 2023 09: 06
    +3
    Quote: tatarin1972
    The question is, what special forces are you talking about? The GRU special forces brigades have slightly different tasks; they are mainly focused on reconnaissance and sabotage.

    Well, GRU brigades are now providing intelligence information about the enemy
    or sabotage in the rear?
  17. Vashek
    Vashek 25 September 2023 09: 08
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    Then it is not clear what the remaining units are needed for if the main tasks are given to these soup and cutlet units.
  18. Dedok
    Dedok 25 September 2023 09: 17
    +6
    Quote: Nexcom
    It’s as if in the 1990s and earlier there were DSBs on purpose. They dispersed them later, and now they are creating them again?
    In my presence they were dispersed, the officers were shoved in all directions (those who were close in age were generally sent to civilian life). Like what for are they - peace, friendship, chewing gum, “God bless America”, etc.
    The head of the medical department of one infantry battalion was then appointed head of a shabby little garrison hospital.
    I remember how everything was destroyed... First they destroy everything (and people’s lives) and then everything has to be created again.


    They are not going to create anything “new”: this is “mimicry” of the current situation both in the LBS and in the rear...
    they understand that reforms are needed, but they don’t need it and this decision only confirms this - everything is “fuck...s”
  19. Dedok
    Dedok 25 September 2023 09: 18
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    Quote from AdAstra
    Do you have personnel for this? And then on paper we raised the number of MeVeDe to almost a million, but in reality there were no people.


    “on the ground” there are none - but in offices occupied with various kinds of reporting there are not enough
  20. vovochkarzhevsky
    vovochkarzhevsky 25 September 2023 10: 19
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    Read carefully, don't landing-assault, and reconnaissance-assault.
    Capitalist Russia has no stomach for creating the first. This means that each brigade has two helicopter regiments, and not a dowry, but a composition that must be provided.
  21. borisvt
    borisvt 25 September 2023 10: 50
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    Well, the Wagnerians came in handy at home too!
  22. moreman78
    moreman78 25 September 2023 11: 26
    +1
    What again? I remember the epic with the 100th reconnaissance brigade (it had an infantry battalion, a special forces battalion, technical reconnaissance units and tanks)!
    From Wiki:
    “The brigade was formed in the summer of 2009 as an experimental unit of a new type.
    It included units of the 56th Air Assault Brigade, the 10th Separate Special Purpose Brigade, as well as other special forces. In 2012, a helicopter squadron, previously located in Budyonnovsk, was added to the brigade. Already in 2020, the command of the Southern Military District proposed to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to disband the 100th brigade. According to the district command, the reason for the failure was the copying of individual armored cavalry regiments of the US Army, which the latter soon abandoned."
  23. Gene8888
    Gene8888 25 September 2023 16: 36
    +1
    The Army had air assault battalions in every district. And they were not part of the Airborne Forces. These were extremely trained and motivated units. For example, like the battalion in Garbolovo Leningrad. Only the reform of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief destroyed all the best.
  24. Andrey Kamenotesov
    Andrey Kamenotesov 25 September 2023 17: 30
    +1
    Urgently need a mix of bulldog and rhinoceros!
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  26. JD1979
    JD1979 26 September 2023 12: 48
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    The Russian military department decided to create reconnaissance and assault brigades. The need to have such specialized units was shown by the experience of special operations; the formation of new formations has already begun. The tasks of the new brigades are hidden in their names - these are reconnaissance and assault. The brigades will include reconnaissance units capable of conducting reconnaissance behind enemy lines, as well as assault units capable of breaking through the enemy's layered defenses. The new units will receive all the weapons necessary for this, including heavy and light armored vehicles, artillery, etc. Reconnaissance will be equipped with drones of various types.

    Oh, I would navigate those making such decisions from a position from behind. Both cactus and broken glass are available. Ministry of Krinj, EVERY DECISION only makes it worse than it was.
  27. Parvis rasulov
    Parvis rasulov 26 September 2023 12: 58
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    The Red Army included engineering assault brigades, the same ones were in the Soviet army, which were designed to break into fortified cities and towns, as well as defense systems with a layered system of engineering structures, trenches and minefields, the main difference between these brigades and infantry and mechanized and motorized rifle regiments this is enhanced engineering sapper training, but after the collapse of the USSR for some reason these brigades were the first to be cut
  28. storm
    storm 26 September 2023 15: 13
    -1
    The same “theorists” from the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense argued that the brigade did not have enough resources to break through the enemy’s layered defense, and the brigades formed under Serdyukov began to be transformed back into divisions......
    To stupidly break through the defenses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, assault brigades need to be formed from “parquet” majors, colonels and generals of the Ministry of Defense, from whom there is definitely no use, sheer harm.....
  29. Yaroslav Tekkel
    Yaroslav Tekkel 26 September 2023 21: 09
    +1
    Reconnaissance brigades.

    Damn, I don’t know what else to write here.
  30. Alexander Golotov
    Alexander Golotov 27 September 2023 00: 35
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    As I understand it, this is the integration of the Wagners into the Defense Ministry, along with their previous infrastructure and structure. I hope it turns out well
  31. perun1988
    perun1988 27 September 2023 14: 34
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    04.12.2015. In Murom, the first assault battalion of engineering troops in Russia was created, designed to protect the infantry. Soldiers of the engineering troops must ensure the unhindered movement of motorized rifles, infantry and other forces through enemy territory, TASS reports with reference to the head of the engineering troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Yuri Stavitsky.
    The 1st Guards Engineer-Sapper Brigade contains assault units of engineering troops designed to carry out missions to support combat operations of combined arms units in urban areas. Military personnel provide engineering support to groups whose tasks include storming buildings. These units are equipped with assault combined arms demining kits, the equipment of which includes sapper protective suits, helmets with active hearing protection, communications equipment and a video recording system, as well as a set of special tools.
  32. perun1988
    perun1988 27 September 2023 14: 38
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    The structure of the infantry and USMC seems logical to me: light on motor vehicles, on Stryker wheeled armored vehicles, and heavy on Bradley infantry fighting vehicles.
  33. Aitneics Secniv
    Aitneics Secniv 3 October 2023 16: 52
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    Why can’t you make a bunch of missiles, even cheap and outdated ones, like Tochka U, and throw them at layered defenses? A lot of metal, a lot of explosives, stuff these substances into the metal and drop them on the enemies' heads. Let them be rockets, shells, bombs, guided or unguided. No, let's make assault troops. And those going on an assault are, by definition, cannon fodder. Of course, I’m an armchair expert, and I may not know much, but I’m wondering why it’s impossible to bombard the front line with a variety of shells and bombs?
    Of course, even if these are not daggers or fabs, they are expensive and for special occasions. Let there be something like y dots, they are 20 times cheaper in calibers, they covered their defense with dozens of cheap but very formidable missiles and that’s it, there is no defense, the attack aircraft are alive.