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Damansky, Dulaty, Zhalanashkol - unknown pages of the history of the Soviet-Chinese conflict

The origins of the Soviet-Chinese armed conflicts on the border are fading. The process of territorial demarcation between Russia and China was long and difficult.

20 November 1685 the Russian government decided to send “a great and plenipotentiary embassy” to the Amur region to conclude a peace treaty with the Qing Empire, open trade and establish a state border.

January 20 1686 was issued a royal decree, which ordered the "courtiers and governor of Bryansk Fedor Alekseevich Golovin to go to the great and plenipotentiary in the Siberian city of Selenge in jail for contracts and calming quarrels with the Chinese bugdyhana had been sent to the ambassadors and envoys into oblivion the initial regimental commander, who will be sent for that ”. The embassy was accompanied by a retinue of 20 people, and 1400 of Moscow archers and service people.

29 August 1689 in 50 fathoms from the strengthening of Nerchinsk, after lengthy and complex negotiations, a congress of embassies was held, at which negotiations were completed and they signed an agreement on territorial demarcation and the establishment of peaceful relations between Russia and the Qing Empire. However, the non-identity of the names of rivers and mountains in the Russian and Manchurian copies of the contract, the non-demarcation of a number of sections and the absence of maps allowed for different interpretations of the provisions of the agreement.

The basis of the delimitation of the following, Kyakhta 1727 Treaty, laid down the principle of "actual ownership", i.e., on existing guards, where they were not - in settlements, ridges and rivers.
The Aigun Treaty of 1858 established the border along the banks of the border rivers Amur and Ussuri, while the space from Ussuri to the Sea of ​​Japan remained unallocated.

The 1860 (Additional) Treaty of Beijing concluded the distinction between China and Russia in the Far East, confirming the provisions of the Aigun Treaty and defining a new Russian-Chinese border from the Ussuri River to the coast of the Sea of ​​Japan. However, the Beijing Treaty, securing the eastern part of the border, only outlined its western part.

In 1864, the Chuguchag Protocol was concluded, according to which the western part of the border was demarcated, but due to the occupation of the Ili Territory by Russia and the annexation of the Kokand Khanate, the border problems again came to the fore.

The St. Petersburg Treaty of 1881 returned to China the Iliysky Territory, confirming the description of the border under the Chuguchag Protocol.

The Qiqihar Treaty of 1911 clarified the border between the two countries on the land and the Argun River. However, joint demarcation work was not carried out.

At the end of 20, the beginning of 30's. The basis of the distinction was adopted by the so-called. The “red line” on the change card is an appendix to the Beijing Treaty and is laid mainly along the Chinese coast. As a result, on the Amur River from the 1040 islands, the 794 islands were declared Soviet [2].

At the beginning of the 60s, Soviet-Chinese contradictions in the political and ideological nature were exacerbated.

In 1964, at a meeting with the Japanese delegation, Mao Zedong said: “There are too many places occupied by the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union covers an area of ​​22 million km2, and its population is only 200 million people ”[3]. Almost immediately, the Chinese leadership presented its rights to 1,5 million km2 (22 disputed areas, of which 16 - in the western and 6 - in the eastern part of the Soviet-Chinese border). The Chinese government said that a number of territories in the Primorye, Tuva, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, and Central Asian republics were ceded to Russia as a result of the unequal treaties imposed on China.

25 February 1964 began consultations in Beijing to clarify the Soviet-Chinese border. The Soviet delegation was headed by the plenipotentiary representative in the rank of Deputy Minister PI. Zyryanov (Head of the Main Directorate of the KGB Border Troops under the USSR Council of Ministers), the Chinese - Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China Zeng Yong-chuan.

During the six-month work, the boundary was clarified. The questions that arose regarding the ownership of a number of islands on the Argun River were decided to be put out of the box in order to consider this issue separately. However, N.S. Khrushchev, saying: “Either all or nothing” [4].

Meanwhile, the situation on the Soviet-Chinese border exacerbated. Violations have become demonstrative in nature. If from October 1964 to April 1965 there were 36 cases of Chinese citizens and military personnel entering 150 Soviet territory, only for 15 days of April 1965 the border was broken 12 times involving more than 500 people, including military personnel. In the middle of April, 1965 was about 200 Chinese, under the guise of military personnel, crossed over to Soviet territory and plowed 80 hectares of land, citing the fact that they occupy their territory. In 1967, anti-Soviet provocations were organized by 40. In the same year, the Chinese side attempted to unilaterally change the border line in a number of areas [5].

The situation is especially difficult in the areas of the Pacific and Far Eastern border districts. According to the memoirs of Hero of the Soviet Union, Major-General V. Bubenin, who was the head of the 1967 border post of the Iman (Dalnerechensky) border detachment in 1, a Chinese radio station operated in the fall of 1967 on all border areas of the Primorsky and Khabarovsk territories. In her programs, she fiercely criticized the CPSU and the Soviet government for breaking with the CCP, for revisionist policies, for colluding with world imperialism led by the United States against China [6].

At the same time, there were fierce clashes between border guards and provocateurs in the area of ​​the Kirkinsky and Bolshoi Islands. This is how V. Bubenin recalled this time:

“Provocations followed one after another, three to four a week. People were exhausted and tired. According to 8 – 10, hours were served at the border, and 4 – 5 hours participated in the elimination of provocations. But everyone understood that it was necessary, because it was a real combat job. The biggest punishment was considered if someone was barred from participating in the elimination of provocations ...

In order to protect personnel and reduce the risk of injury during force contact, we began to use spears and clubs. The soldiers, with great pleasure and zeal, carried out my command to prepare the new and, at the same time, most ancient weapons primitive man. Each soldier had his own oak or black birch, lovingly planed and polished. And on the handle tied unmounted, so as not flew out of hands. They were kept in a pyramid with weapons. So, on alert, the soldiers took an automatic rifle and grabbed a cudgel. And as a group weapon used the ratchets ...

At first they helped us out great. When the Chinese pearls were on us with a wall, we just put the rattles forward ... avoiding contact, threw them back. The soldiers loved it. Well, if some daredevil did break through, then, excuse me, I voluntarily ran into a club.

... In such a simple way, we excluded direct contact with provocateurs. Moreover, it was noted more than once that some of them wore knives in their belts under their outer clothing and it was very easy to run into him ”[7].

In August, the Chinese managed to oust the Soviet border guards from the Kirkinsky and Bolshiy Islands and urgently set up crossings. In response, warning fire was opened, and then, with the help of mortar fire, the ferries were destroyed.

The head of the Pacific Border District, Lieutenant-General V. Lobanov, reported at the end of the year: “On the border passing along the Ussuri River, in 1968, more than 100 provocations, involving 2000 Chinese, were suppressed. Essentially, all of this happened in sections of two frontier posts on the right flank of the detachment ”[8].
Disturbing information came along the line of intelligence. Major General Y. Drozdov, a resident of the First Main Directorate of the KGB 9 in China in 1964 – 1968, recalls:

"Shortly before the assault on the Embassy of the Redweibin

and our employees managed to visit Heilongjiang and Harbin and meet with our elderly compatriots. One of them said that the Chinese authorities had evicted him from the apiary belonging to him, turned it into a huge sandbox like in the tactics classes of military academies. The terrain represented on it displays a plot of adjacent Soviet territory. The eighty-four-year-old Amur Cossack officer was very puzzled by this.

A spokesman for Krupp in Beijing, in a conversation with me, called the Russians fools who did not see what was going on under their nose. He expressed concern because he was there where the Soviet people had not been allowed in for a long time ...

My Western colleagues, who were observing the Soviet-Chinese border relations, cautiously made it clear that the Chinese were reinforcing the military grouping on the border with the USSR.

We have compiled this and other data and sent a message to the Center, stating a request to verify the information by means of space, radio, military and border intelligence [10].

The Soviet government tried to bring the situation on the border under control. 30 April 1965 adopted a resolution of the Council of Ministers of the USSR “On strengthening protection of the USSR state border in the sections of the Eastern, Far Eastern and Pacific border districts”, according to which the border zone was restored to the depth of the territories of rural (township) Soviets and cities adjacent to the border The borderline width has been increased to 1000 m.

14 maneuver groups, 3 divisions of river ships and boats were formed in the districts. The number of border troops was increased by 8200 people, including 950 officers. The Ministry of Defense assigned 100 officers as chiefs of outposts and their deputies. Border units received 8000 automata, 8 armored boats, 389 vehicles and 25 tractors.

According to the decree of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the USSR Council of Ministers of February 4 1967 "On strengthening the protection of the state border of the USSR with the People's Republic of China" in 1967 - 1969. Trans-Baikal border district, 7 border detachments, 3 separate divisions of patrol ships and boats, 126 border posts, 8 maneuver groups were formed. The Ministry of Defense handed over 8 armored cars, 680 personnel officers, 3000 sergeants and soldiers to the border troops, and an additional 10500 man was called up. The density of the Chinese border was increased 5 times, from 0,8 people / km (1965) to 4 people / km (1969) [11].

In winter, 1968 – 1969. The first clashes with provocateurs began on Damanskiy Island, located in 12 km from the KNuByakiny Sopki 1 outpost and 6 km from the Nizhne-Mikhaylovka 2 outpost of the Imansky (Dalnerechensky) border detachment.

Opposite the 2 th outpost was the Chinese border post “Gunza” with a population of 30 – 40 people. The post of observation of the 2 th outpost monitored the movements of the Chinese and, as soon as they approached the island, the outpost rose by the command “To the gun!”, The head of the 2 outpost senior lieutenant I. Strelnikov informed the 1 st outpoint, which also alarmed and its reserve was being advanced to the island.

Here, for the first time, Soviet frontier guards encountered PLA soldiers. Initially, the Chinese soldiers did not remove weapons from the shoulder and rather quickly squeezed out of the island. However, in December, the Chinese for the first time used weapons, this time as batons. V. Bubenin recalled: “They removed the carbines, machine guns from the shoulder and, swinging them, rushed at us. Several of our soldiers immediately received a strong blow ... Strelnikov and I gave commands to our soldiers to use the butts ... A new ice battle began [12].

After this collision, both outposts were reinforced by detachment reserve, however, for almost a month, the Chinese did not appear on the border. The reserve departed back to the squadron and, literally in a couple of days, 23 January 1969, the Chinese again reached the island. And it all started in a new way.

In late January, a real hand-to-hand fight began on the island. The Chinese attacked with attached bayonets. After an hour of battle, the Chinese were slaughtered to their shore. The border guards seized five carbines, an automatic rifle, a TT pistol. Having examined the captured weapons, the border guards saw that almost everywhere the cartridge was sent to the chamber [13].

After a report on this fight, a detachment reserve and a commission checking weapons and ammunition arrived at the outposts. Before the departure of the commissions, the ammunition was removed from the armored personnel carriers of the outposts, on the orders of the head of the arttechnical equipment.

February was calm. Everything seemed to stop. However, in the 20-x numbers from China began to hear an incomprehensible rumble, the border guards were fixed bulldozers, clearing the road to Damansky.

The whole of February, the border guard was carried out according to a reinforced version. The outposts of the outposts were cleared of snow, regular trainings were conducted to enter these points. The trenches dug in the summer were also cleared at the places of service.

Border guard was carried out along the main shore. On the island outfits did not go.

At the end of February, deputy chiefs of outposts were called to the detachment for training. The reserves of the detachment, the maneuverable group and the school of non-commissioned officers, went to army exercises, more than 200 km from the outposts, where they worked out, together with the army units, the tasks of repelling the armed forces of a potential enemy.

1 March weather did not work out at night. A blizzard arose, and in the evening the snowfall intensified. On the night of March 2, on their own coast, against Damansky Island, using unfavorable weather, the Chinese concentrated up to an infantry battalion, two mortars and one artillery battery.

By forces of three infantry companies, up to three hundred people, they came to the island, the two remaining companies took up defensive positions on the shore. The command post of the battalion is located on the island, they established a wire connection with the coast. All personnel were wearing camouflage. On the island, the Chinese have dug up their cells and disguised themselves. The positions of mortar and artillery batteries, large-caliber machine guns were positioned so that armored personnel carriers and Soviet border guards could fire at direct fire.

In 10.40 (local time) on March 2, near 30, the soldiers of the Chinese “Gunty” frontier post began advancing towards Damansky.

Post observation 2-th outpost on the hill Kafila reported on the nomination of the Chinese. The chief of the outpost, senior lieutenant I. Strelnikov, raised the outpost “To the gun!”, Reported provocation on the 1th outpost and the operational duty detachment, and he himself, along with the officer of the special department of the detachment N. Buinevich and the 30 personnel, moved to the island .

Damansky, Dulaty, Zhalanashkol - unknown pages of the history of the Soviet-Chinese conflictThe Strelnikov group (15 people) was put forward on an APC, Buinenevich with 5 – 6 border guards on a GAZ-69 car, the third group, commanded by junior sergeant Y. Babansky on a GAZ-66 technical assistance vehicle.

At the same time, the 1-i outpost was raised by the command “Shotgun!”. The chief of the outpost, senior lieutenant V. Bubenin, with the 22 border guards, moved to the aid of Strelnikov.

By the 11 watch, the Strelnikov and Buynevich groups arrived at the southern tip of the island. Having detached 13 people under the command of Sergeant V. Rabovich to pursue a group of Chinese marching along the eastern coast of the island, Strelnikov and Buinevich went to meet a group of Chinese who stopped on the canal. At this time, the Babansky group approached the island.

In response to Strelnikov’s demands to leave Soviet territory, the Chinese opened fire, shooting Strelnikov’s group. Rabovich's group, following along the coast, went beyond the earthen wall and was ambushed. Of the 13 border guards, only G. Serebrov survived. He later recalled: “Our chain stretched along the coast of the island. Pasha Akulov ran ahead, followed by Kolya Kolodkin, then the others. Egupov ran before me, and then Shusharin. We were chasing the Chinese, who were leaving along the shaft in the direction of the bushes. There was an ambush. Barely jumped onto the rampart, as they saw three Chinese soldiers in camouflage downstairs. They lay three meters from the shaft. At this time, shots rang out in the Strelnikov group. We fired back. Several Chinese ambushed were killed. Shot long bursts ”[14].

Seeing this, Babansky ordered a return fire. The Chinese transferred artillery fire to the Babansky group, armored personnel carriers and vehicles. Both cars were destroyed, and the BTR was damaged.

In the 11.15 - 11.20 area, the reserve of the 1 th outpost arrived at the battlefield. Hearing the shooting, Bubenin ordered to dismount and began to move in the direction of the shooting. After about 50 meters, they were attacked by the Chinese.

The border guards lay down and fired back. Unable to withstand the fire, the Chinese began to retreat, but as soon as the last survivor reached the shelter in the Bubenin group, heavy automatic and machine-gun fire was opened. After 30 – 40 minutes, border guards came to the end of the ammunition, and the Chinese opened mortar fire. Bubenin was wounded and lost consciousness. Recovering, he ordered to retreat under the protection of the shore. He himself, having received the second wound, managed to reach the armored personnel carrier and take the place of the shooter. The armored personnel carrier went around the island along the channel from the north and collided with a Chinese company. For the Chinese, the appearance in the rear of the BTR was unexpected. Bubenin opened fire with machine guns. In response, the Chinese pulled out a gun at a direct lead. One projectile hit the engine compartment, disabling the right engine, the second in the tower, breaking machine guns and contusive Bubenia. By this time, the BTR had shot all its ammunition, stingrays had been punched through it, but he managed to withdraw to its shore.

Having recovered, Bubenin reported on the combat to the operational duty officer of the detachment. “-On the island, more than an hour of battle. There are dead and wounded. There are several hundreds of Chinese. Apply artillery and mortars.
Received a command to withdraw all from the battle and wait for the approach of the reserve.
-I can not withdraw, everyone will die. From my outpost is a reserve. I'm going to fight again now. ”[15]

From the 1 th outpost on the GAZ-69, a reserve has arrived under the command of Sergeant outpost Sgt. P. Sikushenko. They delivered all the wearable and most of the outpost ammunition, all machine guns, PG-7 grenade launcher and shots for him.

Bubenin and the landing force sat in the armored personnel carrier of the 2 th outpost and again attacked the Chinese. This time he went through the positions of the Chinese on the island, defeating the defenders during 20 minutes and destroying the battalion command post. However, leaving the battlefield, the armored personnel carrier was hit and stopped. The Chinese immediately concentrated mortar fire on it, but the group was able to retreat to the island, and later to its shore. At this time, the reserve 2 of the outpost of the 16 approached the battlefield, and, having completed a kilometer-long march over 30, the reserve of the 3 of the outpost. The Chinese were knocked out of the island and the battle almost stopped [17].

According to official data, Chinese soldiers and officers were destroyed in this battle before 248, 32 soldiers and officers were killed by border guards, one border guard was captured [18].

The fight was the toughest. The Chinese finished off the wounded. The chief of the medical service of the detachment, the major of the medical service V. Kvitko, said: “The medical commission, which, besides me, included military doctors, senior lieutenants of the medical service B. Fotavenko and N. Kostyuchenko, carefully examined all the deceased border guards on Damansky Island and found that 19 the wounded would have survived, because in the course of the battle they were not fatally wounded. But they were then Hitlerically finished off with knives, bayonets and butts. This is irrefutable evidence of incised, stabbed bayonet and gunshot wounds. Shot at close range with 1 – 2 meters. At this distance, Strelnikov and Buinevich were finished off ”[19].

By order of the Chairman of the KGB under the Council of Ministers of the USSR, the frontier posts of the Imansky (Dalnerechensky) frontier detachment were reinforced with personnel and equipment. The detachment was assigned a link of Mi-4 helicopters, mangroups of the Grodekovsky and Kamen-Rybolovsky detachments on 13 armored personnel carriers. The command of the Far Eastern Military District allocated to the detachment command 2 motorized rifle companies, 2 tank platoon and 1 battery of 120-mm mortars of the 135th motorized rifle division. Reconstruction of troop advance routes and deployment lines of support detachments were carried out.

The Chinese were not far behind. By March 7, the grouping of Chinese troops was also significantly strengthened. On the Daman and Kirkinsky direction focused to the infantry regiment, reinforced by artillery, mortars, anti-tank weapons. In 10 – 15 km from the border, a large caliber long-range artillery batteries were deployed to 10. By March 15, on Guberovskiy direction was concentrated to the battalion, on the Imanskiy - to the infantry regiment with tanks, on the Panteleymonovskiy - to two battalions, on the Pavlo-Fedorovskiy - to the battalion with reinforcements. Thus, the Chinese concentrated an infantry division with reinforcements [20].
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  1. atk44849
    atk44849 9 February 2013 08: 00
    Glory to the heroes of the border guards!
    1. dima_talib
      dima_talib 11 February 2013 05: 36
      I recommend that you type in Google - Igor Sivak author songwriter.
      Among the many patriotic songs - one of the best about Daman ...
  2. Belo_biletnik
    Belo_biletnik 9 February 2013 09: 27
    My father told me that during the conflict on Damanskoye it was as if hailstones went deep into Chinese territory. And so in the border areas before these conflicts, the Chinese and the Russians got along well, the ambitions and appetites of the Chinese leaders are to blame for everything ..
    1. Beck
      Beck 9 February 2013 21: 55
      Quote: Belo_biletnik
      Father said that during the conflict on Damanskoye, it seems, they hailed deep into Chinese territory

      Well, then I will also tell you something.

      It was called in the fall of 1968. He began his service loading the tank battalion 439 MP 135 MD. After half a year they were transferred to gunners, and after another half a year they became tank commanders.

      439 MP was stationed at st. Lazo, 60 km south of Damansky Island. Further south 20 kilometers to the side of Vladivostok, in the settlement of Filino, another 199 MP 135 divisions were located. Still south in Lesozavodsk stood the third division MP.

      Provocations from the Chinese side were before the events in Damansky. According to conversations, here and there, the Chinese were filming sentries at remote posts.

      On March 1, our tank battalion entered training. On the night of 2 to 3, when spending the night in the field, the battalion was relocated by alarm to field depots, where it took ammunition and in the morning marched along the highway to Damansky Island. The whole 439 MP was raised behind us, which was also transferred to Damansky. We stood for 3 days. During this time, Filinsky 199 MP bringing himself into full combat readiness replaced us in positions. We left for the garrison, where we also alerted everyone, and three days later we again arrived in the area of ​​the island and stood in the second echelon behind the Filinsky regiment. Here are units of the Filinsky regiment and participated in the battles.
      Grad Division fired two volleys. One along the Chinese coast, the other in depth. They say 12 hectares of snow were on fire. But when ours went on the attack with the Chinese front line, they answered with fire. It turns out they had dug all the engineering structures dugouts, etc.

      When walking along the highway and settlements passed, the population lined up along the highway. At stops, they brought eggs, milk, bread, sausage, pies and more to the tanks. The feeling was like in the WWII newsreels
      A special department, which was neither heard nor visible, appeared here. Two tanks stopped due to breakdowns. Colon is gone. The crews began to repair. The guys said, after 20 minutes, UAZ jumped, from there two officers - a special officer, with pistols bald. Like specially broke the technique. Now your fellow soldiers will go into battle, on the move, and you decide to sit out.

      And as always, the Soviet military gouging. Already in Damansky, one loader comes running to me and says show me how to charge the anti-aircraft machine gun. I’m at a loss, I say, but why don’t you ask your crew. He says asked, but they don’t know. I'm sedimented. I had to go show.
      Opposite us, through the country road was the village of Olga. One evening, the mechanic Stashko or Stashevsky, crept to the far house and shot the hens with a pistol. Missed. The next day, the battalion commander, leaving one person at a time, built a battalion. Stashko brought it out and swore him for about 15 minutes. You bastard, your homeland called on civilians to protect, and you shoot in the hell. Well, the mat is three-story. At the end, the battalion commander turned to the ranks. - Sons, I scold this damn guy, not only because I shot in the chickens, but also because not one of the eight rounds was hit. Now to engage in battle with the Chinese, that's how to fight with such.
      Of course, none of the loaders from the DShK shot. Helicopters flew over and over us here and there, with a black stripe on the fuselage, to distinguish them from the Chinese. I decided to practice. Hearing the noise of a helicopter motor, he jumped into his hatch and accompanied the helicopter with a barrel .. Of course, he told others that it was necessary to train. A day later, I noticed that the helicopters, appearing above the forest, no longer fly over us, but abruptly go to the side. A day later, a categorical order came not to accompany the helicopters with trunks. I imagined the state of the helicopter pilots. They come out of the river, in the woods, where our troops, and at the same time 30 tank barrels of the DShK, accompany them. The nerves are not iron.

      Here is my youth in uniform.
      1. Iraclius
        Iraclius 10 February 2013 00: 16
        Beck , thank. Interesting story.
        Is it really that in training classes the soldiers were not taught to shoot from coaxial and anti-aircraft machine guns?
        1. Beck
          Beck 10 February 2013 13: 33
          Quote: Iraclius
          Is it really that in training classes the soldiers were not taught to shoot from coaxial and anti-aircraft machine guns?

          I will not answer for the entire Soviet Army. But in our battalion for two years there was not a single shooting from the DShK. Not even a single occupation for loaders (they should shoot from an anti-aircraft machine gun on T-54 tanks) by DShK. What the crew will explain it was. But not all crews knew DShK. Therefore, a loader came running to me that no one in the carriage knew how to insert a tape.
      2. Frigate
        Frigate 10 February 2013 19: 20
        Dear admins and moderators. I ask you to allow all of you to write an article to respected Beck. I am for! Who else wants to vote for ??
        1. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 11 February 2013 23: 18
          With two hands - "FOR".
      3. Pushkar
        Pushkar 10 February 2013 19: 43
        Quote: Beck
        And as always, the Soviet military gouging.
        In 1969, from the 47th IAP (Unashi), during the events, one squadron Mig-17 was put forward to the Swallow field airfield. At the same time, they forgot about small arms, only the pistols of the pilots. We ran to neighbors, artillerymen, occupied the SCS with 30 rounds for guarding, until everything was brought by a transporter.
    2. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 11 February 2013 19: 50
      In the newspaper Nezavisimoye Voenoye Obozreniye, a participant in these battles described the use of the Grad MLRS.
      After BM-21 came to the position, a report was sent to the district artillery headquarters and from there received data for firing. But at headquarters, as always, they were not tied to the terrain, and the cars were installed on the bank of the Amur with an excess above the Chinese coast and since the trunks were loaded with what was brought from warehouses i.e. interspersed with high-explosive, incendiary, etc., all this fell in the area of ​​concentration of the Chinese rear. There, then for 1,5 days something burned and exploded, the Chinese from such a vile somewhere 2-3 days came to their senses. And then the ceasefire negotiations began
  3. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 9 February 2013 09: 45
    What can we say about China, if Georgia killed Russian soldiers in 2008, even if Bulgaria betrayed Russia.
    1. Krilion
      Krilion 9 February 2013 11: 37
      Quote: vladsolo56
      What can we say about China, if ==== even Bulgaria has betrayed Russia.

      this is called - I heard a ringing, but don’t know where it is from .... if not in the subject - it’s better to be silent ...
    2. stranik72
      stranik72 9 February 2013 12: 05
      "... even if Bulgaria betrayed Russia"
      Bulgaria always betrayed Russia and consistently we were "brothers" for them only when their backs could no longer accommodate everyone who wanted to go there.
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 9 February 2013 13: 26
        However, the Russians were never shot, and unlike the same Serbs, Bulgarians are quite often found in RuNet.
        During World War II, the Bulgarian embassy was still operating in Moscow, and the tsar, upon Hitler’s request for concrete assistance by the divisions, directly replied that the Russians would have them all the next day. Local Jews, Hitler, by the way, also did not give a single one.
        1. tungus-meteorit
          tungus-meteorit 10 February 2013 01: 27
          Yes, the Bulgarians did not fight against Russia = USSR, but on the other hand, the Bulgarian fascist troops killed a lot of Serb and Greek partisans, and burned a lot of villages of their Orthodox co-religionists. Such are the little brothers. But the Serbs (along with the Russians) also participated in the liberation of the Bulgarians from the Turkish yoke. Of course, not all Bulgarians are traitors, there are many worthy people among them. But still symptomatic. In the RuNet of Serbs (as well as Montenegrins, Slovaks and Greeks), by the way, there are quite a few - you probably just don’t go to those sites?
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 10 February 2013 19: 12
            Serbs fought with the Bulgarians and Greeks (first together against the Turks, and then in the regime against all the strongest). The Bulgarians lost part of the territory to the Serbs, it was not forgotten. After 29 years, this led them to a war against the Greeks and Serbs.
      2. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 11 February 2013 23: 24
        He studied in South Korea in an international group in which there were several Bulgarians - all people in their ages, all - heads of large units in the government of Bulgaria. I spoke with them exclusively in Russian, of which they knew perfectly. One man spoke Russian in general as if he were native. Only the youngest Bulgarian (and ethnic Armenian!) Could hardly speak Russian.
        So - every day we talked more about history at the table. And none of these Bulgarians consider themselves a relative of the Russians. They spoke much more willingly about the Turkic-Bulgarian relationship (even with the Turks). As for relations with Russia, they spoke harshly and specifically: "We (Bulgarians) recognize ourselves as relatives with Russians only when we need it. And so we have nothing to do with them."
        The whole history of Russian-Bulgarian relations fits perfectly into this phrase.
        1. Frigate
          Frigate 12 February 2013 06: 07
          Quote: Marek Rozny
          He studied in South Korea in an international group in which there were several Bulgarians - all people in their ages, all - heads of large units in the government of Bulgaria. I spoke with them exclusively in Russian, of which they knew perfectly. One man spoke Russian in general as if he were native. Only the youngest Bulgarian (and ethnic Armenian!) Could hardly speak Russian.
          So - every day we talked more about history at the table. And none of these Bulgarians consider themselves a relative of the Russians. They spoke much more willingly about the Turkic-Bulgarian relationship (even with the Turks). As for relations with Russia, they spoke harshly and specifically: "We (Bulgarians) recognize ourselves as relatives with Russians only when we need it. And so we have nothing to do with them."
          The whole history of Russian-Bulgarian relations fits perfectly into this phrase.

          I read your feedback and I'm so proud that we have adequate people. You have a good knowledge of factual material. I want to vote with both hands, so that you become MARSHAL
  4. lechatormosis
    lechatormosis 9 February 2013 09: 52
    I was always surprised at the stupid orders of the KREMLIN not to succumb to provocations.
    Violators and provocateurs RECOGNIZED THIS AS WEAKNESS OF THE SOLDIERS OF OUR ARMY and impudently even more until it came to direct AGGRESSION.
    I believe that such provocations should be stopped immediately after using all means of defeat.
    The life of our SOLDIERS and OFFICERS is more expensive than CPA .... ny provocateurs from ANY STATE.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 9 February 2013 13: 27
      And in case of what, to clear up rubble and thousands of corpses, who will be? Therefore, they are careful.
    2. Vodrak
      Vodrak 9 February 2013 18: 27
      They still have not calmed down; on our border with China, once a month, penetration is likely to happen.
  5. ruslan7608
    ruslan7608 9 February 2013 10: 37
    Good article, detailed. Glory to the Soviet border guards !!!
  6. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 9 February 2013 10: 48
    Hmmm .... Fun.
    He was in the Amur Region a couple of years ago, drove from Skovorodino (60 km from the border with China) to Aldan (this is in South Yakutia) and not only did he not see a border guard, but not a military man at all.
  7. apro
    apro 9 February 2013 10: 53
    The heroism of the green caps cannot justify the stupidity and betrayal of the ruler of Nikita Corn, who made People China an ally and closest follower of communist ideology. Throwing China at the crossroads of industrialization and deep modernization of the country pushed Mao into the arms of the Amers and with all the ensuing consequences. IVStalin after August 45, as well as investing in the PRC economy until the death of IVStalin. All of this would not have happened if there had been no 20 party congress. The PRC needed these provocations to build relations with the SGA, no one in the world could help the PRC with modernization except amers .
    1. Captain
      Captain 10 February 2013 21: 20
      All this would not have happened, if it had not been the 20th congress of the party.

      What is it like?
      Long before the 20th congress, Mao had laughed at Siberia and the Far East.

      During his visit to the USSR (meaning the visit of 1949), Mao Zedong, following a train to Moscow, refused to get off at a station located in the North Sea (Baikal). Accompanying the "great helmsman" Chen Boda (political adviser, one of the prominent theorists of Chinese socialism - "VP") asked why the leader does not get off the train. Mao reprimanded Chen Bodu for not knowing the story and said in a "heavy angry tone" that "the Chinese shepherd Sichen Su Wu was herding herds here." Mao made it clear that this land is the ancient homeland of the Chinese people, illegally occupied by the Soviet Union.

      No, loyalty to Stalin and Marxist ideals has nothing to do with it. The "Great Helmsman" decided to simply get rid of the influence of the Union and strengthen his power. Moreover, he even swung to the place of the new leader of the social bloc.

      By the way, did you wonder why such a principled Mao did not give up Soviet military technology and the help of Soviet specialists in the development of uranium mines?
  8. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 9 February 2013 11: 07
    Thanks, very interesting article. I read it with pleasure.
  9. makano
    makano 9 February 2013 11: 11
    It was recalled how we massively wrote statements with a request to send to Damansky, and the second about the admission to service in the KGB
  10. nnnnnn
    nnnnnn 9 February 2013 11: 42
    Concerning TUVA an interesting article Unknown Ally - Tuva People's RepublicThe history of World War II seems to be thoroughly studied. However, this is not quite true. There are still topics that researchers have not devoted enough attention to. One of these is the participation of the Tuva People’s Republic (TNR) in World War II. Yes, it was this state that was the first to support the USSR in the war against Nazi Germany. However, first things first.

    Until the beginning of the Xinghai revolution in China in 1912, the territory of Tuva was under the rule of the Chinese Qing Dynasty and had the name "Tanu-Uryanhai." After the start of revolutionary actions, the rulers of the Tuvan territories turned to their northern neighbor - Russia, with a request to take these lands under their guardianship.

    In April 1914, Nicholas II decided to establish a Russian protectorate over the Tuvan territories. The region was included in the Yenisei province. However, already in the spring of 1917, the active creation of Soviets began in Tuva.

    The fact is that a certain number of Russian peasants and workers lived on the territory of Tuva, who became peculiar repeaters of the ideas of Marxism in the territory of the Uryanhay Territory.

    In July 1918, Tuva was occupied by the troops of Kolchak. True, a year later the Bolsheviks knocked out whites from the Uryankhai Territory, and in 1921 the independent People's Republic of Tanu-Tuva was proclaimed, which in 1926 became known as the Tuvan People’s Republic.
  11. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 9 February 2013 12: 06
    <<< The Chinese finished off the wounded ..... “The medical commission ....... carefully examined all the dead border guards on Damansky Island and found that 19 wounded would have survived, because they were not fatally wounded during the battle. But they were then finished off like Hitler with knives, bayonets and rifle butts. Cut and stab wounds with bayonets and gunshot wounds are irrefutable evidence of this. They shot at point-blank range from 1–2 meters. >>>
    The death of our soldiers at the border, LIGHT IN THEIR MEMORY, should not be forgotten and should help to RIGHTLY build relations with China! This should always be remembered, and, especially, those lovers should know to represent the Chinese as simple smiling hard workers, "white and fluffy" something like a funny panda. They have always been and remain, as they say, "on their own mind." The Celestial Empire quietly, but consistently and persistently, based on the philosophy of its exclusivity, is moving towards the WORLD Rule and is not going to share its leadership with anyone. Where a Chinese comes, he comes there not as a guest, but as a future OWNER and will not let go of his own! And Russia is already facing such behavior of the Chinese, "quiet expansion" and must understand where this is leading, if everything is left to chance and not put a barrier to it!
    1. broker
      broker 9 February 2013 15: 10
      Tricky and insidious !!!
    2. hommer
      hommer 9 February 2013 15: 24
      Quote: Goldmitro
      . Wherever a Chinese comes, he comes there not as a guest, but as a future HOST and will not miss his own!

      Dulaty, Zhalanashkol - on the Kazakh land. I would like to believe that our Kazakh leadership understands perfectly well - despite the agreements on the delimitation of the border with the PRC, Kazakhstan without an alliance with Russia will not be able to keep the Han from expanding and seizing the territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan.
      Life has changed, times have passed when the Kazakh dzhigits could restrain the dragon, not letting the troops of Bogdykhan through the Dzungarian gate to the Kazakh lands.
  12. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 9 February 2013 12: 16
    Reading the article, he concluded that Moscow did not want to help the border guards in every way and, on the contrary, held their hands to them.
    Whatever it does, China will never be a friend of Russia, in modern conditions, when it sucks and expresses solidarity to Moscow, it must be especially feared that there will hardly be anything in the minds of Chinese politicians. As we see from examples of the past, from friendship to hate is one step.
  13. vladimirZ
    vladimirZ 9 February 2013 12: 22
    In general, the "disputed territory" of China is the territory up to Baikal and further to the Urals. Therefore, no Chinese leadership will ever stop making demands on Russia. We must be prepared for this.
    And here the leadership of the state does not understand this and is weakening the military group in the east of the country. Not only this, it also creates such living conditions in the territories of Siberia and the Far East that the people leave these places inhabited by our ancestors, moving to the European part, to Moscow, freeing up territory in the East for the Chinese. There are so many abandoned empty military garrisons, military towns, airfields in Transbaikalia that it becomes simply scary for the security of Russia.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 9 February 2013 13: 30
      Nobody weakens her, stop hysteria. But the Chinese did not stop anyone from reaching Baikal 500 years ago. It's just that their gut was always thin.
      1. broker
        broker 9 February 2013 15: 11
        Is it just to kill the wounded !!!
      2. Iraclius
        Iraclius 9 February 2013 19: 16
        Yeah. Very thin. yes Yes, and they are nikayushchie warriors. The bone is thin, the darling is not enough hand to hand. This I repeat the words of our soldiers about the Kwantung Army. The Japanese recruits, who served less than six months, fought so that in Manchuria had to kill almost half of the defenders of the fortified areas of the first echelon of defense. I understand that the Japanese are not Chinese. But I want to convey such an idea - the enemy should never be underestimated.
        My people love hat-making, but then we wash ourselves with it in blood.
        The Chinese are a very hardworking and ideological people who sacredly believe in their historical exclusiveness and in a collected, mobilized form are a formidable force. Everything else is up to politicians.
    2. redwolf_13
      redwolf_13 10 February 2013 04: 35
      And you did not see the troops because an agreement was signed between the Russian Federation and the PRC on demilitarizing the border and withdrawing troops from it.
      In 1998, Chinese fishermen settled on Domansky Island, and in 2008 the island officially ceded to China. And 5 months later, on October 14, 2008, the PRC received 337 square kilometers of territory in the Khabarovsk Territory and the Amur Region. Near Khabarovsk is about. Tarabarov and about half of the Bolshoi Ussuriysky Island. And this is what high-ranking officials responded to: "Chairman of the Russian part of the Russian-Chinese Committee for Friendship, Peace and Development Leonid Drachevsky said that the transfer of the islands would resolve" the last moment darkening relations between Russia and China. "According to Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs Natalya Narochnitskaya, "the territory concession is very small, and the importance of strategic relations with China is obvious."
      Well, the fathers shed blood and the children gave sad
    3. rexby63
      rexby63 10 February 2013 12: 44
      And what are these conditions? Facts to the studio!
  14. AK-47
    AK-47 9 February 2013 12: 34
    ... In 1964, at a meeting with the Japanese delegation, Mao Zedong declared: “There are too many places occupied by the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union covers an area of ​​22 million km2, and its population is only 200 million people "... ... Almost immediately, the Chinese leadership claimed their rights to 1,5 million km2 (22 disputed sections, 16 of them in the western and 6 - in the eastern part of the Sino-Soviet border) ... The Chinese government stated that a number of territories in the regions of Primorye, Tuva, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, the republics of Central Asia were transferred to Russia as a result of unequal treaties imposed on China ...

    The Chinese have not forgotten the precepts of Mao Zedong, they not only sleep and see these 1,5 million km2 of the Soviet-Chinese border as their territory, but are also actively arming themselves in order to "return" them sooner or later.

    The only Brest resident living in Belarus, Evgeny Ivanovich Yanshin, recalls.

    ... At one of the outposts, even before the conflict, the Chinese captured the wounded border guard Pavel Akulov. His body was dropped from a helicopter around April. Prior to that, he was considered missing. He had no living space on his body. By cruelty, opponents surpassed the Nazis. After the fight on March 2, for example, when we picked up the dead, our hair stood on end. The Chinese bandits finished off many of our guys with bayonets and knives. They shot them with machine guns and twisted their arms. Some had their eyes gouged out. They shouted after us: the bandit group went. And so they lived ...
    ... Now the frontier post, which was the first to take the blow, bears the name of the deceased commander of the Hero of the Soviet Union Ivan Strelnikov. After long negotiations, Damansky in 1991 became Chinese territory ...

    Sadly, and no one answered.
    1. AK-47
      AK-47 9 February 2013 13: 06
      Quote: AK-47
      Sadly, and no one answered.

      Addition to the previous comment.
  15. smprofi
    smprofi 9 February 2013 14: 05
    from the family archive

  16. pechv
    pechv 9 February 2013 14: 48
    A good article that adds detail to our story. I recommend a text that allows you to look at the situation from a slightly higher position, in the sense that decisions are considered at a higher level. Quickly found only this link
  17. Garysit
    Garysit 9 February 2013 15: 39
    His "highness" Mr. Serdyukov and his comrades did everything to destroy the Trans-Baikal and Far Eastern districts, leaving hundreds of kilometers naked, and those brigades that have the so-called Eastern District in no way will be able to withstand the 3-million-strong grouping of the Chinese army, which is now concentrated near our borders and sooner or later they can make claims on our territory. Candidate of Political Science Makarov will brush aside with a truncheon, and Serdyukov will probably push out with his belly ...
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 April 8 2021 10: 29
      Quote: GarySit
      His "highness" Mr. Serdyukov and his comrades did everything to destroy the Trans-Baikal and Far Eastern districts, leaving hundreds of kilometers naked, and those brigades that have the so-called Eastern District in no way will be able to withstand the 3-million-strong grouping of the Chinese army, which is now concentrated near our borders and sooner or later they can make claims on our territory. Candidate of Political Science Makarov will brush aside with a truncheon, and Serdyukov will probably push out with his belly ...

      Do you want to keep a 3 million force grouping in the Far East? The USSR had less there. The military budget is not rubber. Give one aircraft carriers, others a three million Far Eastern one in
  18. Vova
    Vova 9 February 2013 15: 41
    To make it read all the geeks who dream of Russian-Chinese friendship against the United States and Japan.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 April 8 2021 19: 46
      Quote: Vovchik
      about the Russian-Chinese friendship against the United States and Japan.

      We have been at war with Germany 2 times. Wait is it impossible to make friends? Actually, our enemy number 1 is like NATO and the United States for some reason. Probably because they surrounded us with a ring of bases and sanctions are strangling. It's like they need our land and natural resources?
  19. Tektor
    Tektor 9 February 2013 15: 51
    Now China is preparing an armored fist and "small detachments of 5 million" smile to support them. In this regard, I think it is absolutely necessary to prepare a "meeting" for them, where the main stopping "dish" can be long-range Tornado-S and Tornado-U with cluster (anti-tank warheads) and volume-detonating warheads (complex destruction). Sunshine to them to boot. You just need to calculate everything very carefully and place in shelters (carefully camouflage) and place a "rubber armada" in false shelters. In any unforeseen case, you will have to prepare "chemistry" and "voshikov" (for inland areas).
  20. Black
    Black 9 February 2013 18: 54
    IMHO in 1991 again showed what the Chinese again perceived as weakness - moved the border, gave away a hundred islands.
  21. alex popov
    alex popov 9 February 2013 21: 05
    Not for trolling for the sake of. I want to understand.
    Father-in-law told a few years ago about this. He served near Semipalatinsk. When there was a period of exacerbations with China, they were put forward in reserve to the border.
    According to him: they read out the order for the garrison: a breakthrough of Chinese troops of up to the division, advance ... take ...
    We sat at the turn for 2 days. Then hang up. They collected it in a club, showed documentary footage: scorched earth, melted remains of tanks ... they said that they drove out "something" for direct fire, what was left of the Chinese were collected in boxes and dropped from helicopters over Chinese territory ... says that before that, almost every other day, their company was chased on guard, guarded equipment covered with a tarpaulin based on six-axle tractors (h.z. what is this, I did not find any analogues in the network) After that, some shoulder straps came to them almost from Moscow, they forced everyone to sign "nondisclosure".
    That is the question. It’s not that I don’t believe my father-in-law, but, really, ANYWHERE AND NO ONE did I hear such information from, the network is empty. But the father-in-law says that he was demobilized in the fall of the 69th, and after that there seemed to be no major conflicts.
    For myself, I think that a tactical charge has rushed over the Chinese. Why hushed up and why about all this is silent ??? Question...
    Friends, if anyone has any information, please inform.
    I ask the trolls not to worry.
    1. rapira99
      rapira99 9 February 2013 22: 53
      There was a rumor - the Chinese appealed to the UN about the use of prohibited weapons of mass destruction by the Russians. Allegedly there was a commission on the Chinese coast. We checked with dosimeters - they didn’t find anything falling under the ban. Only plowed territory with human remains. They shrugged and left. The uncle on that border served. After the skirmish with the Chinese, they commited - they cut alive - several knife and bayonet wounds - there are no two fingers on the hand, and two on the foot.
      1. alex popov
        alex popov 9 February 2013 23: 26
        The fact of the matter is that everything is at the rumor level ... Something was for sure, but WHAT?
    2. smprofi
      smprofi 10 February 2013 00: 08
      Quote: alex popov
      showed documentary filming:

      Quote: alex popov
      demobilized in the fall of the 69th

      I'm sorry, but your father-in-law is whistling. such documentary filming hardly exists (existed). second, for example, similar filming is marked "Secret" and the credits "Only for officers and generals ..." (I don't remember completely now) and are not shown to the rank and file.
      father was the battalion commander of a separate battalion. then we lived in the Far East. Somewhere at the end of the summer, he came home and looked at the photo from Damansky (then for the first time I saw a gray bag with a purple stamp "Secret"). the photo showed the corpses of Hunghuz and weapons. and general plans of how the Hunghui positions were organized. the equipment was filmed in detail. I also remember that my father then swore at me for the first time and said, "They stepped far forward." the father himself began serving in Kwantung in the 50s. and knew the PLA very well at that time. I loved very much to remember and laugh at the "smaller brothers". only after Damansky did he stop doing it.

      the father’s battalion itself was advanced to the border as a barrier. more precisely 2 companies (the third - on combat duty). BC on hand did not give.

      again returning to Damansky. my father once, when I was already older, almost minute by minute told me the events of the first day. slightly different from what is stated in the article. but we won’t especially butt.

      about how it all ended. ended with the work of the City. there was nothing else there: there was no nuclear weapon, there were no lasers. although there were many legends at first.

      there was one more. An infantry regiment was transferred to the Damansky area. but they were dressed in the form of border guards. just while the border guards are shooting - this is a border conflict. if regular troops are drawn into the conflict, this is already considered a war. Based on the result of the conflict at Damansky, several additional battalions were formed as part of the border troops (2 or 3, I don’t remember exactly) just in case of conflicts at the border.
      1. smprofi
        smprofi 10 February 2013 01: 38
        you can also add to the times of events in Damansky. for the entire duration of the conflict and almost until the end of 69, the Americans stopped "checking" our air defense system in the Far East. knew that our nerves were at the limit and they would not joke.
        1. alex popov
          alex popov 10 February 2013 11: 18
          Quote: smprofi
          you can also add to the times of events in Damansky. for the entire duration of the conflict and almost until the end of 69, the Americans stopped "checking" our air defense system in the Far East. knew that our nerves were at the limit and they would not joke.

          About whistles does not whistle ... I don't know. What's the point of whistling for him? Show off in front of me? he sometimes said such things, about dispossession, about how their family from Ukraine ended up in Kazakhstan, and so on ... you will not find it in a single textbook. And the topic was not raised by me, but by him. Brotherhood came from the army, Svobodny served in the guard company. We met, noted, the conversation turned about the Chinese, about how they constantly do dirty tricks, pollute Cupid and so on. Then he told how they were sent to the border guards. Not on the Amur. In Kazakhstan. From near Semipalatinsk. At first I missed a deaf ear, and then on "Zvezda" there was a program dedicated to Damansky. Then I remembered. got into the network, and there ... SILENCE! This is what I think, the nuances, the details, he may have fumbled somewhere, but in general, he hardly composed. Too subtle topic. UNKNOWN, do you understand !? It's easier to lie when there is a known fact and a person clings to it. I was here on the forum for a couple of days with one tovarischem who proved to me that he had seized 2 armored personnel carriers near the Rossiya hotel in 93 with his bare hands. Funny and instructive. Here's another story. This topic is generally nowhere and is not covered in any way. Only at the level of rumors. Hence, my personal opinion is that it doesn’t lie about the fact that there was something. But WHAT WAS ???
          2 years ago on "VM" this topic was raised, corresponded with the guy, he says that his father then served in the garrison of Seven, and told something similar. That it seems like the Chinese were planning either a sabotage at the training ground, or a landing, and ours were ahead of them ... Weight in scraps, all in pieces ...
          1. smprofi
            smprofi 10 February 2013 15: 15
            alex popov, Do not be offended. but in the early 70s and later I heard a lot of different legends about Damansky. moreover, as a rule, with reference to an "eyewitness" (close / distant relative).
            what can you do ... such is human nature
            1. alex popov
              alex popov 11 February 2013 15: 59
              Pro, I'm not offended. ) I want to figure it out. You see, if he was the only one dragged along and okay. A father-in-law is such a person, the old school does not say much, and if he does, then on the case. There was no case that either lied or "misled". But here's the thing. What is the title of the article? "Damansky, Dulaty, Zhalanashkol." It is written about Tamansky. Where about "Zhalanashkol"? There is even less information. Fight, loss of 2 people. 30 people were presented for various awards ...
              And I heard from 3 different people that the adjacent garrisons were deployed and brought to the frontiers.
              I want to understand. no more. No offense. Especially for the information.
      2. Beck
        Beck 10 February 2013 15: 26
        Quote: smprofi
        ended with the work of the City. there was nothing else there: there was no nuclear weapon, there were no lasers. although there were many legends at first.

        I confirm, except for Grad, there was nothing. After clearing the island, our sappers put there PM (plastic mines) and hung them on trees and bushes MON100 on stretch marks (Shrapnel Mines of Directed Action, the spread of fragments into one stolon per 100 meters). Two or three weeks later they went to check. Not a single mine was found - the Chinese took everything off.

        The deceased Colonel Leonov, according to soldiers' rumors, was to some extent himself to blame for his death. In the heat of the moment I jumped into the T-62 tank, sent a separate tank battalion, the commander of the battalion, sent the major, supposedly I am the eldest. And he led a platoon to bare ice. And not four tanks as it is written in the article, but three. The enlargement of a tank platoon, with infantry regiments, from 3 to 4 vehicles, according to the Soviet Army, was introduced only at the end of 1969. And he deduced the type of scaring the Chinese. The cannons and machine guns were sheathed, the ammunition was not prepared. Soldier rumor. The Chinese began to shoot from our 45 mm guns, from the time of the Second World War, the armor didn’t flinch at this. Then, according to rumors, a Chinese grandfather, a Vietnam war veteran, from our RPG, but with Chinese grenades knocked out all three tanks. Two tanks returned on their own. The third, lined, Colonel Leonov, stopped 30 meters from the Chinese coast. The gunner and the loader were immediately killed. The mechanic jumped out and began to pull out the wounded colonel. Then two and covered. Subsequently, we wanted to bring cables to the tank in order to drag the tank to our shore. The Chinese did not allow crossfire. At night sappers penetrated the tank and planted explosives. They blew up in the morning to make it more spectacular. But something sappers did not calculate. Only the ice under the tank broke and he was in the tower in the water. Then the Chinese dragged him to him. This T-62 still stands on Tiaiomin Square in Beijing.

        Quote: smprofi
        an infantry regiment was transferred to the Damansky area. but they were dressed in the form of border guards.

        And not just the infantry. A tank division was redeployed from Ukraine, so all tankmen were given green border caps.

        Actually, Damansky himself, by all international laws, belonged to China. According to international conventions on river borders, the border passes - if the river is navigable then along the fairway, that is, the deepest place. if not navigable then in the middle of the river. Ussuri was navigable. And the fairway passed between our coast and Damansky island. They say now the river of sand has so much plowed that the island has become the Chinese peninsula.
        1. Beck
          Beck 11 February 2013 14: 44
          Quote: Beck
          But actually Damansky himself

          I see there is interest. Then I’ll add a little more.

          When our tank battalion, after a night-morning march, arrived for the first time in Damansky. A command came over the radio to leave the loaders in the tanks, and the rest to the commander's tank, to clarify the situation. I'm sitting in the tank, guarding. Then I hear the creak of snow, obviously from walking. I am to my triplex. Twisted, no one. But again I hear the creak and creak of steps around the tank. My heart sank and the heel sank. But in the triplex, you still can’t see anything. Pulled out of the chest holster of the overalls Makarov, perennur. Again I looked at the triplex, I hear a creak and I see the tip of a bayonet that moves around the tank. I stopped breathing, I almost lost consciousness from suffocation. He put the finished gun on the shoulder of the tower, took Kalash, without a butt, he jerked. He took it on a pistol. He opened the hatch lock and slowly began to open the hatch. When the bayonet leveled up, he sharply threw back the hatch and leaning out half directed the machine below the bayonet. Our infantryman looked at me in wonder-questioningly. Breathed loudly, joy was full of pants. I ask pehtur, they say what are you doing? He says they gave the command to guard the tanks. I say - Guard well. Himself into a tank and sleep.

          Initially, dry rations were issued. When we stood on Damansky for the second time, somehow the command came to send one person to the headquarters, to receive a package from the people. Everyone ran in a run because they didn’t have time, so they were late. Subsequently, they stopped running, the ration was so-so. There were so many parcels in the following days that a mountain of debris formed around the tanks. Parcels were from all over the Soviet Union. Food, smoke and more. But, which especially touched and strengthened the spirit, there were messages in all the premises - Defenders of the Motherland. Written on paper, but there were knitted mittens, pouches (this is probably a grandmother with a memory of the Second World War) with inscriptions embroidered in floss - Defender

          Once a general bypassed our tanks for moral support. There is a retinue around him. Our battalion commander and political instructor are nearby. The crews of 3-4 nearest tanks brought him to it. We talked. One of our gunners asked the general - Comrade General, and if a serious mess comes out, how much do we, according to the plan, need to hold out until the main forces arrive? The general cheerfully answered - Sons, we will immediately advance, we will break these hunweibins to smithereens. General finished. One major with a stern face, a special officer, strictly narrowing his eyes, asked the gunner, “Why so?” Do you drift? Gunner - No way. But you need to know. Suddenly, according to plan, two hours, and we will die before this deadline. And if you wake up, then we’ll last three hours.

          Here is such a discreet readiness to fulfill his duty to the end.
          1. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny 11 February 2013 23: 32
            Beck, thanks for your memories. I read it without missing a single word.
            1. Beck
              Beck 12 February 2013 11: 24
              Quote: Marek Rozny
              Beck, thanks for your memories. I read it without missing a single word.

              Then I'll tell you something else.

              My recruiting team, one of the military commissars of Almaty, prepared for the spring of 1969, in naval training, for service in the Navy. But an additional request came in the fall and we were called up in the fall of 1968. We got 15 people into the tank battalion. 10 Kazakhs, three Russians, one German, one Ukrainian. Stayed together, in a word, countrymen.

              One moment, in Damansky, which greatly surprised. Once on a country road there was a noise of tank engines and a loud flopping, metal clang. A T-34 battalion marched past us. I was surprised, I thought that the T-34s had not been in service for a long time by 1969. And the clang was due to the peculiarities of coupling the jib with the drive wheel.

              Even before Damansky, the entire battalion stood in front of the barracks in overcoats. Coldly. They began to push. One of our Ahmet, not that healthy, but strong, pushed us all young. Then they began to fight. Ahmet overcame everyone. There is excitement, everyone who wanted to compete with the leader turned on. Ahmet overcame both pheasants and grandfathers. In general, he became the champion of the battalion.

              Hazing, oddly enough, manifested itself in Damansky. When they stood in the forest, they walked with ceremonies for the most part. Depart, find the stump, pull out the gun, distort the bolt, put the gun on the stump and sit down looking around. Zapadlo was to die from a bullet of a Chinese scout with a bare ass, and even sitting in shit. Grandfathers for this forced the young people to walk in a circle with a machine gun, such as the protection of their grandfather.

              On the night of the first trip to Damansky, no one slept. At night, at Damansky, the guard of the tank and the sleeping crew had to be carried for two hours each. But the grandfathers forced the young to stand all night, saying that they would sleep in the afternoon. But what a dream in the afternoon. On the second night, the grandfathers again set the young. At night, a crew lit a bonfire at a nearby tank. I went to the fire, sat down, chatting. Here comes my mechanic, six months older at the call. Came upon me. I say everything is visible from here. Word for word, they got into a fight with him. Then he remembered it was funny. We wave our fists, and everyone has a pistol dangling in a holster. Calm down. And that night, Ahmet completely left the tank, spent the night somewhere under a tree. In the morning, five grandfathers gathered to beat Akhmet, punishing means. Surrounded him - Well, you brazen solobon, your grandfather forced to stand on the clock. They moved forward. Ahmet takes a pistol from his holster, jerks it and pokes a barrel at each - Well, who is the first? You? You? You? Grandfathers are scattering, they say he is an asshole.

              But after these incidents, it was easier for the young Kazakhstani fellow countrymen (including Russians, Ukrainians, Germans) in the barracks. Grandfathers said a little - Don’t touch them, they are Basmachi. They were captured in the steppes, from a helicopter, with lasso and sent to the army. They have no concept.

              The second trip to Damansky happened similar. The company company went to check at night. Approaches one tank, the crew is sleeping on a transmission, on a tarpaulin. Around nobody. Nearby on a tree hangs an automaton. The commander climbed onto the tank, the loader’s hatch was ajar. The commander shone a flashlight. The charging Skurikhin sits in his seat and is napping. The commander jumped onto the hatch. He wanted Skurikhin's hatch to hit his head. From the hatch, the commander jumped onto the sleeping crew and began to stomp his feet. Shouted - All Kranty, all of you have already been killed by the Hunweibins, warriors yo ... yours. When everything calmed down, the commander decided to give out to the loader who was guarding. But the hatches were locked inside. They found the tower key, opened the hatches, nobody was in the tank. It turns out Skurikhin locked himself from the inside. He opened the lower hatch and crawled into the forest. On the trail in the snow and found him. Com the company put Skurikhin to a tree and waved a gun in front of his nose, threatened to shoot him in a combat situation.

              Here's a soldier’s life.
              1. Marek Rozny
                Marek Rozny 12 February 2013 14: 33
                Beck, and if you write the entire material about the service in Damansky? This topic has been of interest to many in recent years. You have a great presentation, excellent language and good memory, and this is what you need to write a good article.
                By the way, have you read the book "Damansky and Zhalanashkol" by Musalov? How do you like this book?
                1. Beck
                  Beck 12 February 2013 17: 41
                  Quote: Marek Rozny
                  Beck, what if you write the entire material about the service in Damansky? In recent years, this topic has been of interest to many. You have an excellent presentation form, excellent language and a good memory, which is what you need to write a good article. By the way, have you read the book "Damansky and Zhalanashkol" by Musalov? How do you like this book?

                  Of course, I once read something. But I will not mention the authors now. Musalov did not seem to read.

                  Of course, I can write material about Damansky. But there is no place on the site, admins have some restrictions. But on the other hand, something you are interested in me, and not for personal, but for the memory of other people. Maybe we’ll do it - I’ll write, and you, if you want, will dispose of the written? If that answer in PM.
    3. redwolf_13
      redwolf_13 10 February 2013 04: 54
      Father told the campaign they were pontoon tractors. They were guarded like strategic missiles. Since in the event of an increase in the conflict and not a repetition of the drowning of the tank (Leonov imagines himself Chapay and decided to repeat the attack of 2 armored personnel carriers went to the flank but ran into an anti-tank ambush. 1 tank was drowned, the artillery broke the ice. Then the Chinese fought for this tank for 3 days they pulled it out, now it stands on a pedestal in China near the military unit as a symbol of the valor of the Chinese troops) So the idea was to build pontoon bridges for the crossing of tanks and develop the offensive to the road under construction. And yet this was the first combat use of the Grad MLRS with a thermal and high-explosive fragmentation warhead. This is why the Chinese turned to the UN. And what is interesting, all the units involved in the conflict were with green shoulder straps. So that this conflict does not develop into a war (if the border guards are fighting, then this is a border conflict, and if the troops, then this is a WAR)
      1. alex popov
        alex popov 10 February 2013 11: 22
        An interesting version about tractors. Now I will rummage in a network.
        They did not change their shoulder straps, but they gave out the BC. They themselves did not participate in the BD, but sat for 2 days "at the turn" to cover, if anything, the direction to Semi.
        Thanks for the version. hi
    4. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 11 February 2013 23: 28
      the father-in-law was shown the consequences of the shots of the Soviet "lunar tractor".
  22. Moritz
    Moritz 9 February 2013 22: 04
    “I reported to Brezhnev that the Chinese were building a rocky road ... They formed several agricultural divisions and abandoned them for construction. This already indicated more serious intentions.

    interesting, but is someone reporting to our leader?
    1. Kommunisten
      Kommunisten 10 February 2013 02: 17
      He gave them in my opinion part of the border territories already ..
  23. crambol
    crambol 9 February 2013 22: 40
    Quote: alex popov
    Father-in-law told a few years ago about this.

    Amazing! I heard the same thing regardless of the two guys! True, according to their stories, a massive bombardment with Grads was used, after which only slag remained in the place where the enemy was.
    1. alex popov
      alex popov 9 February 2013 22: 45
      Grad is not on a six-axis base, alas. sad I also thought about Grad at first.
  24. воронов
    воронов 9 February 2013 23: 31
    Border guards are always at the forefront, they have such a service
  25. spok
    spok 10 February 2013 05: 34
    Moscow did not care about the lives of soldiers
    1. Yazov
      Yazov 11 February 2013 03: 40
      The documentary film was. The general said that he was raped for using Grad. Even at the awards in the Kremlin, ah ah ah said. Like rockets are expensive, it is necessary to protect!
  26. saf34tewsdg
    saf34tewsdg 10 February 2013 12: 09
    Imagine, it turns out that our authorities have complete information about each of us. And now she has appeared on the Internet woot. tw / svtn Very surprised and scared,
    my correspondence, addresses, phone numbers, even found my nude photo, I can’t even imagine from where. The good news is that the data can be deleted from the site, of course, I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate
  27. saf34tewsdg
    saf34tewsdg 10 February 2013 12: 11
    Imagine, it turns out that our authorities have complete information about each of us. And now she has appeared on the Internet Very surprised and scared,
    my correspondence, addresses, phone numbers, even found my nude photo, I can’t even imagine from where. The good news is that the data can be deleted from the site, of course, I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate
  28. saf34tewsdg
    saf34tewsdg 10 February 2013 12: 16
    Imagine, it turns out that our authorities have complete information about each of us. And now she has appeared on the Internet Very surprised and scared,
    my correspondence, addresses, phone numbers, even found my nude photo, I can’t even imagine from where. The good news is that the data can be deleted from the site, of course, I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate
  29. rexby63
    rexby63 10 February 2013 12: 47
    Optimists learn English, pessimists learn Chinese, and realists learn AK-74
  30. jury08
    jury08 10 February 2013 14: 30
    It was I suppose either Hurricane or Tornado on the basis of the 6th ZIL wasp.
    1. alex popov
      alex popov 10 February 2013 20: 14
      "Hurricane" was still being developed then, and it was not in service. It is based on a 5-axle ZIL. I also thought about this option. does not grow together.
  31. PiP
    PiP 10 February 2013 18: 31
    Article PLUS! THANKS to the author!
    Special thanks to BEK! Everything is very informative and well described (dry statement of facts). Can anyone tell me about at least one victorious war in China? Maybe this was? Just do not need about N-years BC Something down to earth. INTERESTING
    Maybe - "the devil is not so scary as he is painted"?
  32. balamut_x
    balamut_x 11 February 2013 05: 11
    I visited the museum of the Uch-Aral border detachment I remember a lot of captured Chinese AK)
  33. Proud.
    Proud. 11 February 2013 10: 47
    Hu (...) Nweibins, well, clean, (see the first word).
  34. cobalt
    cobalt 11 February 2013 20: 07
    A good article, in many ways instructive. It seems to me that the Chinese will never forget the promises of Mao Zedong to take these one and a half million km2 from us, and where one and a half - you look at 2-4, or even 5 million under the guise and I think they’re already working on it, and while we smile sweetly, pretending to be these friends. I read the report of one correspondent about a Siberian village on the border with China. In Soviet times, there was a leshoz, which was safely destroyed during democracy. Now they have leased it to the Chinese for 50 years. They all surrounded by a large fence, cut down the entire surrounding forest on a clean one, they didn’t take Russians to work, heaped up the whole district with sawdust from the sawmill, but they didn’t sell the boards to the locals, it’s an excuse — they don’t allow the national director. They bred dogs in the village, they are doing everything to ruin the life of the local. They respond to all claims, you have handed it to us for 50 years, now this nasa is what we want to do. The local authorities apparently don't give a damn about all this, I think it’s paid well. And something seems to me that this village in the border region is not unique. What and who will be there in 15-20 years, guess for yourself.
  35. tomaz99
    tomaz99 11 February 2013 23: 31
    Quote: Beck
    Only the ice under the tank broke and he was in the tower in the water. Then the Chinese dragged him to him. This T-62 still stands on Tiaiomin Square in Beijing.
    board N 545 in the museum of the PLA .. one Chinese politician said: we will not repeat the mistakes of the Soviet Union, we will defeat America with its weapons-dollar.
    1. Beck
      Beck 12 February 2013 09: 34
      Quote: tomaz99
      board N 545 in the museum of the PLA.

      Probably now transferred to the museum. But I remember either before the restructuring or during the restructuring in some kind of television show this tank was shown standing on Tyayomin Square.
      1. Beck
        Beck 12 February 2013 10: 29

        The top shot shows the loader’s open hatch. So when all three tanks on the ice of Ussuri were shot down, two returned under their own power. In one of those who returned, when it was pierced by an anti-tank grenade, a first-aid kit was smashed. White smoke, stink. The first-aid kit was handed over to the loader. He opened his hatch, threw out the first-aid kit, closed the hatch. Then, about 20 dents from Kalash bullets were found on the manhole cover. This means the Chinese all the time under the sights of machine guns kept the hatches of our tanks.
  36. Frank Muller
    Frank Muller 7 February 2021 14: 50
    The most common and proven way for those in power: if you want to keep the government in your hands during an internal crisis - start a war (best of all with a neighbor - there will always be a reason). The "Great Helmsman", having brought multimillion-dollar China to hunger and poverty with the "Great Leap Forward", as well as the fundamental lack of culture with the "Cultural Revolution", preferred to act according to this rule. At the same time, he understood perfectly well that the USSR would not get involved in a big war with a communist state, especially a nuclear one. True, it later turned out that the PLA command underestimated the combat capability of the Soviet border guards and the decisiveness of the Far Eastern Military District command, which used rocket artillery and thermobaric ammunition, which caused completely unexpected large-scale damage. And he greatly overestimated the combat training of his soldiers, hundreds of whom paid with their lives for an inexplicable adventure initiated by Mao. By the way, there is still no unambiguous answer to the question: Why did the “Great Helmsman” choose for provocative attempts to satisfy territorial claims, first of all, the islands on the Ussuri? Apparently, he took the answer with him to the grave. Many people think that it was just a reconnaissance in force, after which conclusions followed. The main thing is that the USSR is strong, but a strong one is never pugnacious. Even 10 years later, Vietnam - the Chinese war did not develop after the SA organized large-scale exercises of the military districts bordering the PRC. Then the PLA pulled in this area all the combat-ready aviation and the most trained units, preferring to end the military conflict with Vietnam.