Gorbachev must answer for the death of the USSR

State Duma Deputy Yevgeny Fedorov sent a deputy request to the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation on the legal assessment of Mikhail Gorbachev’s actions during the collapse of the USSR. At the same time, the deputy sent a letter explaining his request personally to the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation, Yuri Chaika. In it, he explained:

“Dear Yuri Yakovlevich!

In August-December 1991, officials of the USSR, including senior officials, allowed actions leading to the collapse of the country. They did not take legal measures to preserve the state structure and territorial integrity of the USSR.

At the beginning of 1991, the question of changing the fundamentals of the constitutional system of the USSR (and therefore of its constituent republics) was submitted to a referendum held on March 17, 1991. The referendum decided to preserve the USSR as a single state (Decree of the USSR Supreme Council on March 21 1991 No. 2041-I “On the Results of the USSR Referendum 17 March 1991 of the Year”).

Not a single state body, including not a single state body of the USSR, was authorized to make decisions on the liquidation of the USSR, on the withdrawal of republics from the USSR, nor on any similar decisions.

Nevertheless, 6 September 1991, the day after the end of the Fifth Extraordinary (and the last) Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR, the President of the USSR signed resolutions of the USSR State Council No. GS-1, GS-2, GS-3 on recognition of Latvia’s independence , Lithuania and Estonia. This was the beginning of the dismemberment and the actual collapse of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Soon, on the direct instructions of the President of the USSR, diplomatic relations of the USSR with the Baltic republics were established, which directly indicates the deliberate nature of the actions of the President of the USSR.

25 December 1991, the President of the USSR announced the termination of his activities as President of the country and signed Decree No. UP-3162 on the resignation of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Soviet Armed Forces and transferred control of the strategic nuclear weapons not authorized by the Constitution and the laws of the USSR person.

December 26 The 1991 session of the upper chamber of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR - the Council of the Republics - adopted, under the chairmanship of A.Alimzhanov, the declaration No. 142-n on the termination of the USSR.

These acts are criminal on the basis of:

- n. “A” Art. 64 Criminal Code of the RSFSR - “treason, that is, an act deliberately committed by a citizen of the USSR to the detriment of sovereignty, territorial integrity ... USSR ... conspiracy to seize power” (the crime of the act is not eliminated by the law of the RF Criminal Code 278 provides for liability for the violent seizure or forcible retention of power, i.e., the objective side of this crime in the new Criminal Code is wider than in the previous one);

- Part 2 Art. 170 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR - “abuse of power ... i.e., intentional use by an official of his official position against the interests of the service, if it is done out of selfish or other personal interest ... that caused ... grave consequences”;

- Art. 171 UK RSFSR - "the excess of power ... i.e. the commission of an official action, clearly beyond the rights and powers granted to him by law, if it caused significant harm to state or public interests ...".

Thus, a group of officials of the USSR, including the President of the USSR, in August-December 1991 deliberately, on the basis of personal interest, committed acts constituting an ideal combination of these crimes against the foundations of the constitutional system and state power. These crimes are over, the persons who committed them are not prosecuted.

In connection with the foregoing, on the basis of Art. 144 and h. 7-8 Art. 151 Code of Criminal Procedure, I ask you to determine the jurisdiction of consideration of this application (the preliminary investigation of criminal cases of crimes under Article 278 and 285 of the Criminal Code, attributed to the authorities of various authorities) and send it for consideration to the preliminary investigation authority determined by you.

Sincerely, Deputy E.A. Fedorov.

And what did the Prosecutor General's Office answer? But she refused to initiate a criminal case against Gorbachev, because, they say, “there are grounds for reconsidering the issue of bringing M.S. Gorbachev and other officials are not held accountable. " And also did not forget to refer to the “integrity” of Gorbachev as the president of the USSR. Here is the answer of the Deputy Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation V.Ya. Grinya, who received Fedorov:

This dissatisfaction did not satisfy the deputy, and on December 18 Fedorov again addressed Yuri Chaika:

A decade has passed, and the prosecutor's office is still thinking. And it will almost certainly compose a response similar to the first. Well, we do not like the power to stir up the past, because she herself actually inherited it, being his successor ...

In the meantime, the prosecutor’s office is inventing his purely legal reply to Fedorov’s request, in which the deputy accused Gorbachev of what he had done for the collapse of the Soviet Union (he released the Baltic republics from the USSR, resigned the commander-in-chief and transferred the “nuclear button”, designed the by semi-legitimate surroundings (the collapse of a great power), it would also be appropriate to recall that Gorbachev did NOT make for the salvation of the USSR. And for this - ignoring the guarantor of the Constitution of their direct duties - he too should be condemned.

Take, for instance, the climax of the process of disintegration of a great power, initiated by Gorbachev himself and his entourage, the signing of December 8 by Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich of the Belovezhsk Accords.

KM.RU has already told how the former State Duma deputy of the third (2000-2003) and fourth (2004-2007) convocations Viktor Alksnis, arriving in December 2006 of the year at the invitation of President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko to the residence "Viskuli", where these agreements were signed, he found the answer to the question that tormented him: why did it happen there, and not elsewhere?

“And I received an answer to my question,” Viktor Alksnis wrote recently, “when one of the current leaders of the state residence Viskuli guarding her as a lieutenant in December 1991, told us that Belovezhskaya Pushcha was chosen by a single criterion: next to the hunting estate, literally a few kilometers away, was the state border of the USSR. The signatories of the conspiracy had a plan of escape, including walking through the forest to Poland, in case Gorbachev attempted to arrest the conspirators. In addition, it turned out that as soon as the KGB leaders of the Byelorussian SSR became aware of the intention of Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich to sign agreements liquidating the USSR, this was immediately reported to Moscow, including to Gorbachev. In Viskuli, special forces of the KGB of Belarus moved forward, surrounding the forest in the hunting residence area and awaiting orders for the arrest of the USSR liquidators. In response, Moscow was ordered to be in positions and wait for the team. But the team did not arrive ... "

The President of the USSR, who was simply obliged to cut off the Belovezhsky plot and was endowed with the appropriate powers for this, literally did not give a finger to save the power created by many generations of our ancestors. Gorbachev, it turns out, was worried only about how his friend Bush Sr. would evaluate what had happened. “Do you understand what you did ?! - Yeltsin Gorbachev yelled. - Do you understand that the world community will condemn you ?! What will happen when Bush learns about this ?! ”Yeltsin, however, immediately calmed Gorbachev: US President Bush, they say, is up to date.

After that, Gorbachev could only renounce power (although the way he did it was illegal, as Yevgeny Fedorov reminded the Attorney General of the Russian Federation). And on the eve of your abdication call the US president and say: “You can calmly celebrate with Barbara (Bush’s spouse. - Approx. KM.RU) Christmas. Tomorrow I resign. With the "button" everything will be fine. "

Should we not judge Gorbachev for criminal inaction? ..

Comments

[Rossmk]

Yes, we will not return the USSR in its original form. There is hope for the Eurasian Union, and Gorbi himself will be up to the bullet, even if he is officially accused in the Russian Federation.
Although it is not right to say so, especially about the elderly, the best way to punish him is to fine-tune the attempt.
This is just what he deserves.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: RossMK

Although it is not right to say so, especially about the elderly, the best way to punish him is to fine-tune the attempt.
This is just what he deserves.

Why the hell did he give up? Fight political dead? We will become like the Latvians who judge our heroes of the Second World War. Passed the USSR? Definitely, but to finish him now is squeamish.

[Igorboss16]

It’s right that they write to the prosecutor’s office, everyone who is guilty will be punished sooner or later

[Rossmk]

Igor, most likely this type will be punished only after death, because during his lifetime he hides his ass in "great America"

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

the main thing is that they would publicly and officially condemn, that the term would break for him, that he would go to hell with guards and heave from every rustle

[Tersky]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

that he would go to shit with protection and startled from every rustle

No, colleague, let him lay what he planted for us, ... and so great honor for a hyena

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

well, also an option, to break the Paskuda ridge

[bask]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

well, also an option, to break the Paskuda ridge

The traitors of their homeland, one ... END ....

[Garrin]

I want in this row A.B. See Chubais.

[RUS-36]

Gold words.

[S_mirnov]

I would add Putin and a large part of the State Duma

[nerd.su]

Would Putin take the place himself? What, is there a plan to save the country?

[Asgard]

You hurried with Putin, everything in due time, BerLazar takes care of Vova in this forum. There are no cases from Vova so far (only selling the Motherland)) and fooling the people with construction projects that no one needs on Russky Island, where Nerusi was built mainly according to the plans of the French. Those e nonRusis work in Olimpicstroy, under the direction of beer king Teimuraz Bolloev. The Rotnberg brothers help the oil industry, the bill of exchange-in Skolkovo steers ....

Russian leaders in senior positions in the pen .... (they say Serdyukov - Russian, although I doubt it)))

[Zabvo]

In vain are you talking about Putin. Vova is a normal man with normal views on the future of Russia. But he did a lot, they came out of the same crisis almost without losses and it is impossible not to admit it. Not everything is as easy as it seems at first glance. Now they like to say that Stalin is not enough, but he wouldn’t be able to shoot the enemies of the people now, because we have an open country and mostly free media.

[Hel]

Good tsar, evil boyars? "Up to God high up to tsar." As "Taburetkin" allegedly did not "know" about the affairs of his "effective managers", so did V.V. If he, as a leader, does not know what his subordinates are doing, then what kind of boss is he? I don’t know what his "normal views on the future of Russia" are, only in my city, instead of a machine-tool plant exporting machines to 145 countries, there is now a hypermarket O And you won't find an ordinary turner in the daytime with fire. And education? Medicine? Agriculture?

[1goose3]

And this is the only place for him.

[crazyrom]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

break the paskuda ridge

Too quick and easy death. This tagged bastard must suffer all the sufferings to which he doomed our people.

[A. Yaga]

Duc "for a count" was canceled for inhumanity and intolerance, and no adequate replacement for traitors to the Motherland and foreign spies was invented.

[Cadet787]

This creature has no honor; therefore, it is necessary to deal with him dishonorably.

[Cynic]

Quote: RossMK

most likely this type will be punished only after death

I absolutely agree with you. He will die and at once much more that we will find out!
Then it will be: due to newly discovered circumstances

[lelikas]

Quote: RossMK

Igor, most likely this type will be punished only after death.

Only this way and not otherwise -

[edge]

so he was given a personal branded cup there, but a tag with a nickname over the kennel was nailed .......

[dedroid71]

Hello dear RossMK! I propose to shoot a new version of the film "Nikki the Devil Jr." There, if you remember, Hitler was punished at the end of the film. In the next version, let them punish Gorbachev.
PS I am amazed that the earth still endures this scum

[Committee]

He dug in from the owners in Britain, not in America.

[Kaa]

Quote: Igorboss16

Correctly do what they write to the prosecutor’s office

The truth is documents. And they confirm that Gorbachev committed the greatest crime, for which On November 4, 1991, the head of the Department for Supervision over the Execution of Laws on State Security of the USSR Prosecutor's Office V. Ilyukhin opened a criminal case against the President under the article "Treason to the Motherland." Two days later, V. Ilyukhin was fired. "President of the USSR Gorbachev M.S., heading the Council of State, contrary to the requirements of Art. 127-3 of the Constitution of the USSR, obliging him to act as a guarantor of observance of the rights and freedoms of Soviet citizens, the Constitution and laws of the USSR, to take the necessary measures to protect the sovereignty of the USSR, did not fulfill the constitutional obligations entrusted to him. In deciding on the withdrawal of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia from the USSR, he deliberately committed actions to the detriment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity, state security and defense of the USSR.
In this regard, in his actions he sees signs of a crime under Art. 64 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR.
Based on the aforesaid and guided by Article. Art. 108, 112 Code of Criminal Procedure of the RSFSR,
P O S T A N O V I L
1. Initiate a criminal case against Gorbachev Mikhail Sergeyevich on the grounds of Art. 64 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (treason to the Motherland).
2. The investigation of the case, in accordance with Art. 126 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the RSFSR, instruct investigators of the Inter-Republican Security Service, headed by V. Bakatin.
3. A copy of the decision to transmit to the Prosecutor General of the USSR.
Head of Department for Performance Supervision
state security laws,
State Counselor of Justice, Grade 2
IN AND. Ilyukhin »http://nnm.ru/blogs/armorder/ugolovnoe_delo_protiv_gorbacheva_vozbudil_v_1991_go



du_viktor_ilyuhin /
“... a public opinion poll was conducted (by whom and when I do not know) on the topic whom citizens would like to see as president in Russia, and the results of the poll were reported to the Duma deputies. In the list of presidential candidates was V.I. Ilyukhin. So, he won the rating vote, gaining 64% of the vote, which, in general, is logical. People, not wishing to vote for the ruling tandem, but to which, at the same time, Zyuganov is also disgusting, found in Ilyukhin the person for whom they would vote. IN AND. Ilyukhin suddenly died on Saturday, March 19, and on Friday, March 18, he had a conversation with a person whom he trusted. Viktor Ivanovich was energetic and in high spirits (other witnesses also confirm his condition). Ilyukhin said that on Monday March 21, the Communist Party faction will elect V.I. Ilyukhina candidate for president of Russia. The interlocutor expressed doubts about the reality of Viktor Ivanovich’s chances of becoming president - yet he is significantly older than Putin and, especially, Medvedev. Ilyukhin laughed and replied that he had just finished the medical examination the day before, and its results showed that he was absolutely healthy in all respects. ” http://forum-msk.org/material/kompromat/6203313.html

[Apollo]

Quote: Kaa

Gorbachev committed the greatest crime

Greetings Kaa!

The ironic question, to everyone-WHO AND (OR) WHAT HINDERS, TO VLADIMIR PUTIN, INITIATE MOST, PROCESS, EXCITATION OF CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST Gorbachev!
The process of creating a new union must begin with this! IMHO

[Kaa]

Quote: Apollon

WHAT DOES VLADIMIR PUTIN HAVE TO INITIATE THE MOST PROCESS, ORGANIZATION OF CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST GORBACHEV!

And what prevents it from doing to thousands of people having such authority?
" The following persons have the right to initiate criminal proceedings: the prosecutor, the body of inquiry, the investigator, the judge (court) (Articles 3, 109, 112, 255–256 of the Code of Criminal Procedure), each within its competence. No other state bodies have such a right; their appeal on criminal prosecution of a person can only be considered as a reason to initiate criminal proceedings.
The prosecutor has the right to institute criminal proceedings for any crime, regardless of the jurisdiction of the case. This follows from the function of supervising the execution of laws assigned to the prosecutor, which, he, “... proceeding from the nature of the violation of the law by an official, makes a reasoned decision to institute criminal proceedings ...” - paragraph 1 of Art. 25 of the Law of the Russian Federation “On the Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation”. The law says: “If there is reason to believe that the violation of the rights and freedoms of a person and a citizen is of the nature of a crime, the prosecutor initiates a criminal case and takes measures to ensure that those who commit it are subjected to criminal prosecution in accordance with the law.”
Investigator initiates criminal cases within its competence, based on the rules of jurisdiction (Article 126 of the Code of Criminal Procedure).
Inquiry agency initiates criminal proceedings within the competence defined by Art. 117 Code of Criminal Procedure. At the same time, the body of inquiry has the right to initiate a case in which the preliminary investigation is mandatory (Article 119 of the Code of Criminal Procedure). However, after carrying out urgent investigative actions, such a case should be transferred to the investigator under jurisdiction.
In cases strictly limited by law the right to institute criminal proceedings and the judge (court). A judge initiates criminal cases of private prosecution (articles 115, 116, part 1 of article 129, 130 of the Criminal Code). In h. 5 Article. 109 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, “Obligation to consider applications and reports of a crime”, it is indicated that before a criminal case is instituted for crimes stipulated by “... Articles 115, 116, 129 of the first and 130 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ...”, the judge takes measures for reconciliation victim with the person complained of *. A case may be instituted in court if it is established that the defendant has committed another crime in which no charge was brought against him (Article 255 of the Code of Criminal Procedure); when circumstances that indicate the commission of a crime by a person not brought to criminal responsibility will be established at the hearing (Article 256 of the Code of Criminal Procedure).
In addition, the court has the right to initiate proceedings in court against a witness, a victim, and an expert who have given knowingly false testimony or an opinion (part 3 of article 256 of the Code of Criminal Procedure).

[Apollo]

Quote: Kaa

And what prevents it from doing to thousands of people with such powers?

Wise Kaa! What you quoted to me was I took the 2 course in the 1988 year, I’m talking about something else.I proceed from the real state of things!

It is beyond the power of citizens, BUT under the power of V. Putin.IMHO.
We perfectly understand each other’s friend! Isn’t it ?!

PS Nevertheless, my question remained unanswered, and you left the answer to my question, referring to the articles of the CPC!

[Apollo]

I can answer it myself!

1. The initiative is punishable!
2. Afraid of the international reaction!

Here are 2 reasons !!! There are still secondary but major ones.

[AndreyAB]

There is no reason alone, the British never surrender their agents.

[Kaa]

Quote: Apollon

my question was left unanswered, and you left the answer to my question

I left ... "He flew away, but promised to return."
Let's essentially:
1)On June 12, 1990, the Supreme Council of the RSFSR adopted the Declaration of State Sovereigntyby setting priority of Russian laws over union ones.
2) As Chairman of the Supreme Council, Yeltsin was able to establish a post President of the RSFSR, and June 12, 1991 won the popular elections for this position.
3). Within a month after the coup, authorities of almost all union republics declared independence one after another.None of the republics performed all the procedures.prescribed by the law of the USSR of April 3, 1990 "On the procedure for resolving issues related to the withdrawal of a union republic from the USSR." The USSR State Council (a body created on September 5, 1991 consisting of the heads of union republics chaired by the President of the USSR) formally recognized the independence of only three Baltic republics (September 6, 1991, USSR State Council resolutions No. GS-1, GS-2, GS-3)
4) On December 12, the Supreme Council of the RSFSR, chaired by R.I. Khasbulatov, ratified the Bialowieza Agreements and adopted a decision on the denunciation of the RSFSR of the union agreement of 1922 (a number of lawyers believe that the denunciation of this treaty was meaningless, since it lost its force in 1936 with the adoption of the USSR constitution) and the recall of Russian deputies from the Supreme Soviet of the USSR (without convening a Congress, which was regarded by some as a violation of the RSFSR Constitution in force at that time )
5) Russia declared itself the successor of the membership of the USSR (and not the assignee, as is often mistakenly indicated) in international institutions.
6) December 25 USSR President M.S. Gorbachev announced the termination of his activities as president of the USSR
So, the RSFSR leaves the USSR, holds the presidential election, continues its membership in international organizations, and only after that Gorbachev resigns as president. Classic Question Example Post hoc seu propter hoc?
Putin is the second and fourth president of Russia, the republic, one of the first to leave the USSR. In this case, if the law is not retroactive, de jure, Gorbachev did not ruin the Union, Putin controls only part of the former Soviet Union, and Mahal Sirgeich is "all in white and fluffy" - Russia itself withdrew from the USSR, what claims to it. Here we have Roman law ...

[Vodrak]

Unfortunately, the law has no retroactive effect. Gorbachev sold us all in exchange for his integrity, by the way, like Yeltsin.

[Adrenalin]

The process of creating a new union, if you are not in the know, has been going on for a long time. And this is much more important than because of the case on Gorbachev to lose the achievements of this process. Another reason for the liberals to shout about 37 years.

[Sandov]

Kaa,
This is not the Ilyukhin who suddenly died. Or am I confusing it with another.

[Kaa]

Quote: Sandov

This is not the Ilyukhin who suddenly died.

That's just the hitch that he does not confuse, along the way. There is also a murky story with Katyn fakes, and also some of recent history. Here is more detailed -http: //alternathistory.org.ua/taina-smerti-ilyukhina

[donchepano]

There should be responsibility of senior officials for the collapse of the state with prosecution up to the death penalty

[Ustas]

Quote: Igorboss16

It’s right that they write to the prosecutor’s office, everyone who is guilty will be punished sooner or later

That's right, and the current deputy prosecutor will not get away with punishment for treason.

Here is the answer of the Deputy Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation V.Ya. Grinya

[warrior]

Totally agree with you. Only to judge, while still alive and precisely "For treason"

[Rossmk]

You may be right, but the emotions for him are extremely negative. One hundred percent that he already had a place in hell.

[pinachet]

this must be done inappropriately! and execute in the red square!
what in the future if anyone again wants to follow in his footsteps knew that there will be a reckoning!
otherwise he did things and lives happily ever after!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Vladimirets

Why the hell did he give up? Fight political dead?

Do not tell me, can anyone even think in the future about the inevitability of a meeting with an ice ax

[papas-57]

What the hell is an assassination attempt? The result is a 'martyr', almost a saint. Plant, let him sit. And the fact that old is bullshit - science to others

[dmitrich]

that's it, dirty hands.

[Vodrak]

But it seems to me that he still should be punished, at least symbolically.

[Denisey]

The devil must answer for his affairs. Millions of people still suffer one way or another. Damn he and hell in Africa!

[vezunchik]

Do not finish, but plant. Let it be for 2-3 years, but there must be a fact of guilty plea.

[leha 2012]

Need a legal assessment. Unfortunately, nowadays one has to prove that white is white. For too long, our brains have been processed that 2 + 2 are not four.

[yak69]

It is very important to give a legal assessment of the actions of officials of that period. This is necessary not only for us, who are now living. This is important for generations to come. So that our children know that we can not only be stupidly wrong, but also admit, or even better, practically correct our mistakes. I am convinced that USSR 2.0 is very possible. Of course, with reasonable adjustments and in a different composition (perhaps even broader and more numerous!). But this is possible with our full support of this process. And it is not necessary to say that "nothing depends on me personally." The thought is material. And yet, we just need to each of us try to live correctly, honestly and justly in our life and in our environment.
(But this, just the most difficult!)

[dedroid71]

This "political dead man" is still muddying the waters. It's good at least they don't pay attention to the clown anymore

[1goose3]

And what is better to be bashfully silent!? Let this labeled freak live, but his deeds, like all involved signatories, should be officially condemned. Traitors should be called traitors. And then we'll see later.

[Committee]

But not squeamish. ON COSTER DOG !!!

[Asgard]

I completely agree with you, there is no desire to get dirty about shit, but humpback is such an education .....
He will receive his, no matter how wriggling, responsibility bowl will not pass it, however like all ...... in power .....

Against ours People a "war" of extermination is being waged, of course it cannot achieve its "goal, but it has created a lot of" difficulties "for us.
It is necessary to identify all the mechanisms and schemes of this process, get to "primary source" - the initiator.in order to stem the possibility of a rebirth of something like Khazar Khaganate.
Aerobatics, to force THEIR oneself - to destroy oneself (believe me, those who have only destruction in their blood is not very difficult))
People are working....

[AndreyAB]

No, this is done only because others understood that their betrayal will have to be answered in full sooner or later, and as you know, impunity generates even greater crimes.

[romanru4]

What is done is x ... with him. It is necessary to look forward. It didn't hurt to work on the errors either. Gorbach was the most typical henpecked. Not a single decision was made without the participation of Raisa Maksimovna ... All his decisions are women! It is even visible to the naked eye. Russia's territorial losses are enormous. I gave not for x ... a huge water area near Chukotka to amers. In all his decisions, a woman's hand can be traced. Baba is such a creature who does not know the territorial principles of the state! There is no such thing in her mind. And if not, then why allow this wonderful creature to make such decisions at the state level. A woman is a purely egocentric being, whose territorial concepts are limited within the family, the nearest "Magnet", kindergarten, school and work desk. Everything else for them is outside of her brains and does not matter at all! Borya was almost the same henpecked. I consulted with Naina Iosifovna .... The matriarchal state does not have any understandable prospects. This is the decline of Russian statehood. It's good that the current leader began to understand this. There is hope.

[Basilevs]

I would not disdain to finish this Judas. Jews from the Wiesenthal Foundation still have not calmed down, picking out Nazi criminals from the norm ...

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

A remake of the story with an ice ax would be very interesting !!! What would you think before you do something!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

ice ax 2.0? !!!

[edge]

Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT

A remake of the story with an ice ax would be very interesting

indeed, it's time to reanimate the units of preventive action

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: RossMK

Yes, we will not return the USSR in its previous form

Well, in the former it may not be necessary, we will revive the Empire and that’s enough

[Rossmk]

Empire in the former all the more we will not return. The Baltic states can only come back to us miraculously, we can only dream of Finland. + China now has some territory of the Empire.

[starshina78]

Not ! It is the court! Vowel with the involvement of the prosecutor, lawyer and witnesses, and always with the jury. All this is necessary so that the West does not begin to shout that it is a reprisal against a Nobel laureate. Yeltsin should have been sitting on one bench, but Alas. he left the court of history.

[S_mirnov]

It is gratifying to see that honest deputies remain in the Duma! It’s just a pity that there are so few of them.
To write such a statement to Chaika is a maorezultativny matter, who wants to help in the fight against corruption, you are here ..
http://www.otvechayka.org/

[53-Sciborskiy]

Quote: RossMK

but the best way to punish him is to set up an attempt.

It will be too humane for him to judge as an enemy of the people and the state.

[pav-pon1972]

Although it is not right to say so, especially about the elderly, the best way to punish him is to fine-tune the attempt.
This is just what he deserves.

Do not touch GOV..O - it stinks !!! You do not need to scrub your hands ... It was a lesson for us, a difficult, terrible lesson!

[patriot64]

Quote: RossMK

the best way to punish him is to set up an attempt.

This is not punishment, but revenge.
Preparing for revenge, you need to dig two graves. So said Kon Fu Qing. Not revenge, but punishment must be! It would never occur to anyone to have mercy on a person who intentionally killed another. The murdered man cannot be returned, but the murderer MUST BE PUNISHED! The Great Power is killed here! And killed as a result of betrayal, betrayal of the homeland, its citizens!

[boris.uryadkin]

Gorbachov must be judged as a traitor

[Gur]

, "" "but the best way to punish him is to set up an assassination attempt" "". Petty and vile revenge ... This scum must be judged by the people, and get its own without a statute of limitations, as a traitor to the motherland. He is not even banned from entering the country; moreover, he is given some medals there. And there is nothing to disdain here, and not only him, but the whole shobla and EBNA to dig, burn and dispel .. Although these scum already from history can not be cut down with an ax. And you have to judge. And in general, what the hell is this, he's not touched, so he had to be a bastard and not an exit then. To hell with him, since you can't judge, let him live among the people, I think it won't last long with our gratitude ...

[patriot2]

The worst is the court of the peoples of the USSR!
And the people who suffered from the collapse of the great country have long accused Gorbachev and pronounced their sentence: GUILTY!

[Tersky]

Quote: patriot2

And the people who suffered from the collapse of the great country have long accused Gorbachev and pronounced their sentence: GUILTY!

So it is, but this scum seems to sing everything too:

Where was his conscience at birth different? ... Personally, I will calm down when this carrion on an aspen is upturned, just like his brother Judas ..

[Kaa]

Quote: Tersky

Personally, I will calm down when this carrion on an aspen is upturned

Stormy applause, sometimes turning into frantic applause ...

[Tersky]

Quote: Kaa

Loud applause

Greetings, wise Kaa! ! Just on New Year's Eve to see this sickening face means to darken the whole holiday! But neither of which God is not a fraer, he sees everything, and this freak will be rewarded according to his deeds! And the order is just right, and it’s the exact size. Well with the upcoming !!!! Good luck and health!

[Kaa]

Quote: Tersky

Good luck and health!

Have a nice one you too! And so many friends both at the New Year's table and in life!

[WW3]

Kaa, just a class! Look at his terrified face.

[Kaa]

Quote: WW3

Look at his scared face

Finally, you can guess ... This is frame # 1, and I have frame # 2 ...

[WW3]

Quote: Kaa

This is your frame number 1, and I have frame number 2 ...

Shot №3

[Kaa]

Quote: WW3

Shot №3

SEE ALL CINEMAS OF THE USSR FROM 01.01. 2013 CINEMA

[polly]

Born in the USSR!: To all the followers of Humpbacked Judas.
25/09/2012
Sea of ​​indignation and sorrow
Over the unfortunate country, even cry:
Take the order you have from Gorbi!
Not suitable for the Gorbach Order!

He gave over a sixth of the land
We all have masturbation example:
Not a hero - bald patter and talker
Ruined the country of the USSR.

Here comedy and drama merged.
I immediately recognize them at the UN:
He, and next to little Obama -
Two nobeliata, your mother!

But the people of Russia are alive as long as
And enter in the protocol:
Take the order from Judah
He deserved a stake from aspen!

Don't lie that fallen country
There was a resident evil and falsehood.
I remember these times
I remember everything as it was before.

There was no wolf bickering there,
There, people believed each other,
And instead of: "Push the weak one" (c)
They always held out their hand.

There sex did not climb ahead of love,
There, the brotherhood was just a brotherhood,
And not taught on TV
Allowed F * ck.

There is a thief, a thug, a scoundrel and scum
Fearing a strong law,
And there was no spawn
Themis in bondage to Mamon.

I remember these times
I remember everything, and I will not forget.
Don't lie that fallen country
There was a resident evil ... Judas.


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[Kaa]

Quote: polly

He, and next to little Obama -
Two nobeliata, your mother!

Well, if they give the Nobel for the collapse, I’m calm for the States ...

[edge]

but Dima gave him the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called (the highest military order of Russia), he is probably a mestranger of the Badaber club guys

[Kaa]

Quote: hert

Dima gave him the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called

In advance, Abamka received the Nobel Peace Prize, maybe this order is an advance for transferring Soviet experience to the United States? Intelligence services, they are so special , maybe what does Gorbi teach Abamka? Nnu-u, for the American Perestroika, since the RESET did not reboot ...

[Simon]

Well, the muzzle, as if asking for a loop.

[ioann1]

According to many photo and film materials of recent years, it is clear that in moral terms Gorbi is completely degrading ... But this does not mean at all that he cannot be judged. One can and should bring to justice this protege of Bush

[Bazilevs]

I hate this bastard !!!!!!!!!! I traded such a country for advertising pet, sucker !!!! And he set us all up !!!!!!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Bazilevs

I hate this bastard !!!!!!!!!! I traded such a country for advertising pet, sucker !!!! And he set us all up !!!!!

Well, for the sake of truth, for the sake of suckers, we turned out to be the same as we, I remember very well the first message about the CIS and I remember very well how I believed that nothing had happened, only the name had changed, unfortunately there was no one who would explain to us then, and even better led Behind the streets.
so it’s not regrettable, but suckers are gentlemen and I

[Simon]

Yes, and the hunchback sold out for the Nobel Prize, what can I say.

[andrei332809]

Yes, this hunchbacked herrr ... to him ssy in the eyes, God's dew.

[bask]

Quote: andrei332809

yes this humpbacked herr ... to him ssy in the eyes - God's dew

The applause of the enemies of Russia, for the destruction of the GREAT COUNTRY They also hung a medallion for a noose. An open fast court and a harsh sentence .. It is a pity that all this will not happen under the current authorities ..... They don’t give their own ...,

[Selevc]

Among such an environment, it looks like a monkey with a medal or like a fool with an order :)))

However, he is not used to it - at international meetings he always mowed down a fool ... And now he has also been officially recognized as the main fool of his era :))))))))))))))))

[RUS-36]

He did what the Amer did not do in conjunction with England and Israel during the entire Cold War.

[vlad.1924]

It has long been necessary to punish and condemn Gorbachev! Sold for 30 pieces of silver and the Russian people and the motherland! He travels around the world, holds various press conferences on behalf of the people he has sold ... The criminal must be in prison ...

[Goldkonstantin]

To judge of course, but how! This asshole still dares to knit and make excuses, he’s a shameful sucker!

[Rink]

Quote: GoldKonstantin

To judge of course, but how! ...

Judging MANDATORY !!!!
And it’s not even Gorbachev’s own business, about him - the most successful CIA agent - that’s already known a lot, and what comes out of the investigation, I think, will fundamentally change nothing.
The matter is FOLLOWERS OF GORBACHOV, in all this liberal brotherhood, in all corrupt little souls who are still confident in their impunity, that they will be covered by the hosts from across the ocean, will provide shelter and money, and that they can then live in peace and comfortably in sunny California, buy an islet, open a foundation of your name in Judah silver pieces and write memoirs. And from time to time to teach us on TV how to disentangle his shit here, with what spoon ...

It must be judged that the liberals of all this have lost this same confidence in impunity. So that they have trembling tremors at the thought of selling their Homeland, and so that they know that the betrayal will ALWAYS sideways, the State Department money will not bring happiness, and sooner or later, Judas will hiccup his affairs. After all, even the Bible shows that Judas Iscariot did not pass the Garden of Gethsemane, although it was too late, but received retribution. And the pieces of silver did not have time to spend ....

Humpbacked MUST get both an official assessment of his activities and retaliation. Why not an ice pick? or at least an ordinary car accident ...

[Tersky]

Quote: Skating rink

Why not an ice pick? or at least an ordinary car accident ...

No, only indicative, otherwise your words, It must be judged that the liberals of all this have lost this very confidence in impunity. So that they have trembling trembling at the thought of selling their homeland, and so that they know that the betrayal will ALWAYS come out sideways, the State Department money will not bring happiness, and sooner or later, Judas will hiccup his affairs. will be thrown into the void. !!!

[Slavs]

For just the title of the article is already a plus ....

[Bezarius]

Well, planting and so on and so forth is already useless, but you need to capture these people in the history as traitors to the country and cover them with eternal and indelible disgrace.

[Egoza]

"And you arrogant descendants
Known meanness of illustrious fathers,
Fifth slavish remnants of wreckage
A game of happiness for offended deliveries!
You, greedy crowd at the throne,
Liberty, Genius and Glory hangmen!
You are ransacked under the law,
Before you is the court and the truth - keep quiet!
But there is also God's judgment, confidants of debauchery!
There is a terrible trial: he is waiting;
It is not accessible to the ringing of gold,
He knows both thoughts and deeds in advance "
xxxxx
Do not worry, especially on the eve of the holiday! He will get more! And he will writhe in pain, and no doctor will help him! Then he will understand "Why is this torment to him."

[ekebastus]

That is not me !!!!!!!

[WW3]

First, a people's trial!

[Simon]

Yes, it's his turn. The rest are long gone.

[Agronomist]

Burn this pi ** pa alive.

[Vladimir 70]

Judging a hunchback may no longer be worth it (he himself will soon die and appear before the Supreme Court), but to condemn the hunchback and company at the state level with the deprivation of all state awards and citizenship would be the very thing!

[Sinbad]

And most importantly, ban entry into the CIS. Let his Western liberals with their overseas mentors nurse both back and front.

[almost demobil]

True, you should not strain agents, spoil ice axes, etc. This guano just has to become a villain without a homeland, which he has destroyed. It is very important that after he dies they are forbidden to desecrate our land with his body. Let him die and rot in a foreign land.

[nickname 1 and 2]

Uma mute count a cripple! And the labeled mind is dumb! God marks the assault! If this tagged ........... ..................... ............. ................. .................................
if there was a bit of mind, then on the example of China, he would understand that there was no need to ruin the USSR! And having understood this, he would have understood all his worthlessness!

Let him live! Maybe it will reach him! And that would be his best punishment.

[alenrys]

He has had schizophrenia for a long time. And the same schizos print and print it.

[dark_65]

Just refuse to bury in the territory of the Russian Federation, hold a referendum, I think the result will be what you need (and without fraud) .. and further on as outlined. I think he has no place in his homeland sold to him.

[Alan]

+ You only think he will prefer to die away from Russia, so this is for him .........

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Well, help the old man, the current would not immediately that the bastard remembered his filthy life

[Gorchakov]

It is urgent to change the Constitution, which was created to protect such lawless people ... He was a hell of a president but a little shit that he still cannot be raked .... He is an enemy of the people and must answer in all severity of Soviet law .... Was would be political will, and to find a loophole to hold these traitors accountable, you can always ....

[Ascetic]

The American newspaper The Washington Post on December 15, 1991 published an article analyzing the reign of M.S. Gorbachev. These newspapers show what economic efficiency is; one can say the “profitability” of its activities for the benefit of the war against the USSR.

[Sandov]

Ascetic,
Gorby and Yelts - two boots of a pair. One is worthy of the other.

[Kibl]

At stake, without mutton fat! Although the fairest verdict will be passed by history, it is a pity that this ghoul will not reach its announcement! But it will be damned forever!

[avt]

For KIBL -_____ AMEN

[Aleks tv]

The bald one wanted to "hang out beautifully" in front of the west.
I hate this face.

Everything could be done wisely ...
Yes, I agree, at that time there were no problems in the country for the most I can’t with a sloop.
But what, when is it always easy?!?!?!
The Chinese, for example, coped with the communist situevina and successfully continue to cope through life further. They put the whole world on the sly with cancer.

Humpbacked: Coward, traitor and traitor.
On stake !!!
I know what I'm talking about, he already served in the Army, when he successfully licked boots with a Western democrat, signing and waving everything that was slipped to him ...

I’m not talking about the collapse of the country ...
For only one destruction of the PGW - 20 years of constant execution by cola.

[WW3]

If Obamkin collapsed, the United States would also look like that with a mark ...

[Andrey64]

Here you need to look a little deeper at things. What is important is not the punishment of Hunchback itself (although what he did is a betrayal of the Motherland and pulls him to the "tower"), but the recognition that all documents that were adopted and signed on the termination of the existence of the USSR have no legal force (i.e. violation of the law). And, accordingly, the question arises about the legitimacy of all subsequent actions in the process of the formation by the Americans (I hope it is no secret to anyone that all the basic laws and the system of leadership in the Russian Federation were created by them) of the Russian state. This will give us completely legitimate grounds for revising many laws, and most importantly, for a flawed constitution, which ultimately will allow us to change the entire existing system.

[Uhalus]

Oh, God forbid, God forbid ... But no one will do this ... Only a new, revolutionary government. But it must come first.

[Andrey64]

In no case ... We do not need any revolutions - have passed. Any revolution casts the country, in terms of development, decades ago! Everything can be solved peacefully. To do this, you need only two !!! terms. The first is popular support for our leader (i.e., the president). And the second is a referendum! We have a democratic society ..)))) And believe me, as soon as the first condition is fulfilled - the second will follow immediately.

[Uhalus]

Which president of the two? They are the same, only one trickier. Higher support for a long time spat on popular support, because the one who benefits the oligarchs, and not the one who enjoys the support of the people, is advancing and rule. Referendum? - Holy naivety! The results of a referendum can always be faked; even with such a dumb fake as a year ago, nothing has changed. Where, in what place do we have democracy? In St. Petersburg, they even dispersed people who gathered in a crowd to play snowballs ... So, I'm sorry, I won’t believe it. The revolution has its drawbacks. But this is also the cleansing of all that scum. Yes and no, we have no development — one continuous regression over the past 20 years, there is simply nowhere to fall. Could there be other peaceful ways? - I think not for a long time. And there will be no revolution - with a qualitative reaction, in our police state, nothing like this can develop in principle.

[the polar]

legally, the USSR remains. The annulment of the 1922 union treaty is nonsense, since the treaty itself was annulled by the adoption of the 1936 constitution. The referendum of March 17, 1991 (here it is, the will of the people, which political demagogues love to refer to!) Confirmed that the vast majority of Soviet people still consider historical Russia their Motherland. The Supreme Council of Russia ratified the Bialowieza Accords, which was abolished after Yeltsin’s decree of 1400 dated September 22, 1993 (which automatically made the decisions of the Armed Forces illegal). However, the Belovezhskaya agreements themselves were annulled by the State Duma on March 16, 1996.
Although our "free" press prefers to remain silent on this score, the fact remains that the USSR continues to exist precisely as a subject of international law.

[asbaev]

And what's the use of this? Not done to return.

[barbell]

it may not return what was done, but for what is done, we will not forget, we will not forgive.

[Spartakv]

Of course, one can and should hope for God's judgment, but the judgment of the people whom he betrayed is more important. And the deputy should have applied not to the State Secession, but to the Constitutional Court. Only he can and should give a legal assessment of the neglect of the referendum and the actions of the highest officials of the USSR at that time.

[homosum20]

Dear colleagues, it is very important to give an assessment of the deed. You don’t even have to plant it there, confiscate it - but you have to tell the whole society - this person has committed a crime.
The moral of society is fair. Otherwise, the boundaries between honesty and theft, crime and its admissibility will be blurred (is this the source of corruption, when every ordinary person can say - go out, labeled the country to the left for a bribe - you’ve got to the bottom of me with a million. First deal with it).
In general, when I saw this face before the article today, December 31, I was simply unpleasantly amazed. Well, although today without cleaning, go ... can I?
Today is a good day, we are all with families, with friends - and here we must tighten this geek.
I have to say all sorts of nasty things. For example: DOG - DOG DEATH!

[barbell]

It’s a pity they only bury the dog-hero of the State Department, at the Arlington cemetery, and not under the fence.

[edge]

He can’t see the Arlington cemetery, this is a memorial military cemetery .... And for those only the back streets are intended, or the leprosy islands ...........

[dropout]

Quote: halter

at Arlington Cemetery,

Yes, he scored a place for himself on Novo-Maiden’s near Raya.

[Zomanus]

It seems to me that Marked Fuck will be on our charges. Now he barks only at the direction of the West. Honestly, a lot of people need an investigation to start. For example, those who betrayed our fighters in Chechnya. Or for those who sold our technology and our defense. The investigation is not for the sake of punishment at least, anyway it is not real. At least for the sake of announcing the names of these Jude.

[George]

Anecdote:
Gorbachev was somehow asked:
Mikhail Sergeyevich do you feel guilty for anything?
Yes, he replies, like I rode a bus without a ticket. I still feel guilty.
Is that all?
Well yes
But what about the 91 year?
And in 91, I did not ride the bus.
Happy New Year everyone!!!!!

[magadanets]

They will not put him in jail, they will not be sentenced to prison, they won’t be shot for twenty years. But let him know that in his homeland everyone spits at the mention of his name. And let his children and grandchildren know that there is nothing to be proud of. . Ugh at him with..b..ё ........... pee pee

[zevs379]

Just imagine what he dreams at night? He is in hell now!
GOD marked this creature for nothing !!!!!

Remember Genesis 4-15. Let him live and see what he has done.

[MG42]

Yesterday and so on it we drove a skating rink on the forum. So he is New Year and will not survive from such arrivals.

[alenrys]

It will triple and survive. Moreover, he has disciples and adepts. Therefore, a vowel court is a must.

[atomic]

And who will judge him? All this camarilla in power, oligarchs, oil and gas magnates, governors, plenipotentiaries are grateful to him for the collapse of the USSR, reward him if it weren't for the humpback now all of them jeans at best.

[MG42]

I don’t want to just spoil my mood just before the New Year, as soon as I meet you, I will definitely continue aiming shooting with comments on Gorby.

[Per se.]

That Gorbachev, a spineless fish, the GKChP must have been his idea, he did not want to get dirty, he found clowns, the same mediocre ones, who then ran to him and surrender. Now it is too late to flap its wings, history is his judge and bad human memory. When they tried to impeach Yeltsin, accuse Yeltsin of "genocide", it was stupid and awkward, it would be better if they took the collapse of the USSR as a basis, it really was a rebellion that everyone got away with, then there was still some chance to present the rights to restore the Soviet Union ...

[R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№]

Is there anything more spiteful than what these .......... Well, do they really not understand that all sane people are cursing them !!!! Damn, go to church, but don’t be afraid of sin. Candlesticks are bad .....

[alenrys]

Gorbachev = utter lack of conscience. The other day, even issued a memoir. Like, learn kids how to live.

[Pelican]

Well, again, selective justice! And where is the list of members of the session of the Supreme Council together with their presidium? And also a list of members of the government of the RSFSR! Their grandchildren should be ashamed of their surnames!
All members of the forum happy new year!

[alenrys]

So their children are ELITE, and grandchildren are in line. And they have and carry psychology - tribal system. Degradation is evident.

[Cavas]

Quote: alenrys

So their children are ELITE, and grandchildren are in line. And they have and carry psychology - tribal system. Degradation is evident.

Please enlighten us, otherwise we do not know!

PS Just in case, the word "theirs" is not in the Russian language!

[Cynic]

Quote: Cavas

PS Just in case, the word "theirs" is not in the Russian language!

Words such as no, but their kids there is !

[AIR ZNAK]

They love the first and last president of the USSR where he celebrated his anniversary in Germany, and maybe in England, where for the first time he and R.M. they lit up for the first time, having arrived at the head of the trade union delegation. The best judge for him is the memory of the people. The best memory for the first secretary of MGK EBN is a glass of vodka in front of the monument.

[tupolev-95]

EBNWorms are already eating up, and this one is next in line. The people can’t be fooled, their memory will be unkind, foul nits.

[Starksa]

hang this freak for eggs, admins, sorry right away. boiled up. All a Happy New Year, the Far East is already happy !!! I wish you good health and happiness. Glory to Russia, Glory to our Fatherland !!!

[Alekseir162]

I must definitely answer, there is no statute of limitations for such a crime. But who will plant him?

[WW3]

Quote: Alekseir162

But who will plant him?

And why plant him ... hang in the square!

[alenrys]

Well, he’s not a monument yet!

[Focuser]

Not everyone knows, but there was this:
In Omsk, an attack was made on Mikhail Gorbachev, a young man jumped out of the crowd and hit him in the face
More: http://kommersant.ru/doc/131819

At least some outlet)

[Cynic]

After that, he did not foot to us!

[david210512]

"Gorbachev is obliged to answer for the death of the USSR" who's thumbs up !!!!!!

[WW3]

Quote: david210512

to answer for the death of the USSR "who's a thumbs up !!!

Thumbs up when a loser gladiator earned the sympathy of the people, a "gladiator" with a spot on his bald head does not arouse sympathy and the battle and lost his country - so I am a thumbs down!

[Selevc]

I don’t know what name to come up with a person who in the mid-80s was at the head of a huge block of countries and the head of one of the strongest countries in the world, who controlled almost half the world ... And in the mid-90s, he advertised pizza on American TV :)! !!
A traitor? It’s somehow not enough in terms of the scale of the deed, by an innocent victim - I think he was not so naive ... political insignificance - a close definition but also somehow weak ...

Nothing future generations will give him their name and history will judge everyone ... There are no analogs in history - except perhaps one of the last Roman emperors ... Gorbchev is already a symbol of the completely decomposed elite - absolutely shameless two-legged creatures who did not repent and even they did not apologize to their own people for the innumerable troubles brought to them ...

So you can despise him - precisely because of what he did !!!

[ziqzaq]

It would be nice to make a historical assessment at the state level, so to speak officially, Gorbachev is a corrupt bitch, the traitor would remain in history and other similar 3.14 darasses were not. Poheril such power ...

[Black]

Quote: Cynic

most likely this type will be punished only after death

I hope not so. he cannot but understand what he has done. And if he doesn’t understand, then let him bring a map of the USSR every day in the next world, like Frida’s shawl.

[enkor]

The state treason does not have a statute of limitations. Definitely. Let slops eat not in the west, but in the Kolyma - in the cockerel.

[Quiet]

This Humpback will not fix anything. P * ndosovsky dig * approx.

[Rubik]

You might think the Americans appointed him to the post of general secretary (although if they did, it would only prove how the country rotted). Gorbachev, like all senior officials, were members of the CPSU and for many years had been making a party career.

[alenrys]

Don't be naive! Gorbachev's parents collaborated with the German occupation authorities. And as soon as Mikhail was "spotted" as a city party leader, he was immediately "picked up" and "led" by his comrades who took possession of the archives of the Gestapo and the Abwehr. The future secretary general owes a lot to the Anglo-Saxons for his rapid career, and so he paid off his debts.

[Rubik]

Leave the old man alone, besides he is not the only one to blame. You can blame half of the country for what he is blamed for. One person will never ruin a healthy state. We all (citizens) are responsible for the collapse of the USSR.

[Simon]

But he could stop the collapse, it was in his power.

[Misantrop]

Quote: Rubik

One person will never ruin a healthy state.

No one talks about the health of that period of the state, although Gorbachev accepted the country far from being in that fatal state. He was the LEADER. The bus rides a lot of people, but the driver is driving. It’s up to him to drive normally or to ditch everyone on the road.

[ioann1]

Yes, you Rubik, the demagogue. When it is profitable. Anyway, Gorby will appear before the Court! And you can reach Kravchuk. The main thing is that the trouble began!

[Quiet]

Let the bastard EATER EARTH ETERNALLY the BLOOD-soaked blood of our boys, who died as heroes, trying to defend the integrity of the GREAT POWER. And this, the Judas will advertise hamburgers until the end of his days !!! HIS ALL THE USSR CURSED TOGETHER WITH THE BORISIAN !!!

[lelikas]

Quote: Rubik

We all (citizens) are responsible for the collapse of the USSR.

Something like a hint Of the 17 million (1991%) USSR citizens with a right to vote, 185,6 million (80%) took part in the referendum on March 148,5, 79,5; of which 113,5 million (76,43%) answered “Yes” and spoke in favor of maintaining the renewed USSR

[Rubik]

Quote: lelikas

Something like a hint is this- In the referendum held on March 17, 1991, out of 185,6 million (80%) of the citizens of the USSR 148,5 million (79,5%) participated with the right to vote; 113,5 million of them (76,43%) answered “Yes” and spoke in favor of maintaining the renewed USSR

And what is the use of the referendum? The country was in poor condition. Yes, and not very people wanted to save her. He took out the scoop then all. Then, after tasting the 90s, people suddenly woke up and realized that they had lost something of value. Yes, now we don’t have to live in the past, it’s time to look to the future, otherwise we’ll stagnate and nostalgia as feeble old people in their hectic youth.

[lelikas]

And what is the use of traffic rules if they are violated anyway? why tanks if there is an ICBM? why free medicine if it is for money? Do not confuse the facts and the consequence -
the people were FOR - and the fact that he was betrayed by the corrupt power is another opera.
I don’t know the filter word missed will skip - but that was exactly what our government was like, only the administration was not prison but American.
ZY-it's time to fix it - we must begin to cooperate with the prison.

[alenrys]

And it was a global hoax.

[Quiet]

WE citizens voted FOR PRESERVATION of the USSR !!!!!

[Simon]

That's it. And this tagged president did not give a damn about the people who chose him, so what is he worth if he danced to the tune of Bush.

[alenrys]

He's not worth a fig! A petty scoundrel and a coward. I had to face him "belly to belly" in the 95th, sniffed it out.

[bubla5]

The hunchback earned but not an ice ax, but a whole pick or a pick and the handle itself

[taseka]

"clause" a "of article 64 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR -" treason to the Motherland, that is, an act deliberately committed by a citizen of the USSR to the detriment of sovereignty, territorial integrity ... the USSR ... a conspiracy to seize power "" That says it all!!!

[garnag]

Judge the marked Judas.

[igor12]

Kill, burn and scatter the ashes to the wind

[Cynic]

The script has already been rehearsed

Dmitry's body was dug up, burned and, after mixing ashes with gunpowder, they fired from a cannon[58] in the direction from which he came - towards Poland.

[Skinny]

Lenin to judge - Coup, millions died in the civil war. To judge Stalin - hundreds of thousands executed, Gorbachev - a useless "thaw"
And again the coup (In my opinion, unfortunately, it is natural) Yeltsin - 98,
monstrous mistakes and inability to manage the state at such a time. In part, all this is fair. But what happens is that our country was formed by murderers, tyrants, swindlers, and stupid people (and the people deserve the power they have). Let's imprison all the rulers! Let the whole world know who we are, who controlled us and why we allowed this to happen.

To imprison - in the sense of condemning and recognizing him as an enemy of the state.

To imprison - in the sense of condemning and recognizing him as an enemy of the state.

[Misantrop]

Quote: Skinny

But what happens is that our country was formed by murderers, tyrants, swindlers, and stupid people (and the people deserve the power they have). Let's imprison all the rulers!

It is not so important who exactly a person was before coming to the post of head of state. What is much more important is what the country has become during his leadership

[Cynic]

Quote: Skinny

But what happens is that our country was formed by murderers, tyrants, swindlers, stupid

Study history, but not for high school!
The rulers of all countries have never been particularly philanthropic, even the slightest bit of knightly honor.

[Skinny]

You are not right!

[bart74]

Well, what kind of country are we? Why can’t we take and shoot just one Judas? And are we a great power after this?

[AKS-U]

The scoundrel should not only be tried, but also shot.
And not only him, but his entire damned family. And there is no need to be afraid of this. For the crippled destinies of millions of people. And don’t care about any kind of immunity. We have only one inviolable thing - Christ!

[dropout]

The hunchback certainly had a good hand. BUT we must not forget that the goat face of perestroika began to appear in our politics from Khrushchev’s bald ass. His rushing from edge to edge, his attempt to urgently build goulash-communism, destroyed the foundation laid by the Leader. And the country went downhill.

[Goldmitro]

Having seen Gorbachev's "deeds", Gromyko, who recommended him for the post of General Secretary, very much regretted his decision, saying - it was not Senka's hat. Indeed, if you listen to Gorbachev’s speech “without a piece of paper,” then, as Peter the First said, his nonsense immediately becomes visible, his incoherent, illiterate, and in terms of the meaning of nonsense does not deserve any other assessment. A. as they say - what is speech and thinking. So this is exactly the kind of person the West needed for the collapse of the USSR, and he fully justified their hopes and received the Nobel Prize for the implementation of their carefully developed plan. But from the point of view of citizens of the USSR, and now Russians, Gorbachev deserves not a prize, but a COURT for a crime against the political system of the USSR, and this crime should not have a DATE!

[VadimSt]

The second question needs to be raised about the illegality of “territorial gifts”. These are not personal savings, this is land soaked in the blood of our ancestors for hundreds of years.
The friendship of the three fraternal peoples, which was hoped for when the Belovezhskaya Plot was signed, is not working out; there is a danger of the emergence of a nationalist, hostile state in the former Russian territories, which means STOP.
Japan and China constantly remind their neighbors about “their lands,” but this does not prevent them from being members of the world community and so on.
Only Russia easily parted with the territories that historically belonged to it.

[Bosk]

Leave him alone...God marked him and punished him...

[Corsair5912]

Gorby spotted, the only “German of the Year” in the USSR, is undoubtedly a criminal.
He is guilty of betraying the USSR as a state and betraying the interests of the Soviet people.
Compared to the results of the betrayal of the spotted scoundrel, Judas Vlasov is an innocent lamb.
The destruction of the Warsaw Pact organization led to unlimited aggression by the United States and NATO
and to millions of victims among civilians in many countries of Europe, Asia and Latin America
Gorby definitely deserved the noose and eternal shame.

[alenrys]

Judging by the number of comments, there is interest. This means that public condemnation alone will not be enough for Gorbachev.

[Allegedly]

Quote: alenrys

public condemnation alone will not be enough for Gorbachev

To judge in a civilized manner is to execute in a civilized manner (no need for any lawlessness), there will be a lesson for many...

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[phantom359]

Isn't it dead yet? It's a pity.

[tracer]

Gorbachev and Yeltsin will forever remain in the memory of the people as traitors to the country, there is no forgiveness for them, even after death. It all started with Gorbaty when the CIA caught him on a woman somewhere abroad in the late 60s. I think most people remember our country in the 80s. Yes, they didn’t live very richly, but everyone was well-fed, they only heard about terrorism on TV and it didn’t even occur to anyone to meet children from school to protect them from pedophiles, but rather from their own fears. The planes flew like buses fly now and for some reason they didn’t crash as often. Remember Airports 80? Remember the crowded halls? I remember how on weekends I flew to Moscow on Saturday in the morning and returned on Sunday evening to go to museums or something else... for 26 rubles to Moscow. Gorbachev must answer to the fullest extent of the law for the collapse of the Soviet Union. I think that millions of people think the same way as me. Yeltsin will answer for betrayal only before God. I will never forget my shame and disgrace when I saw real footage (they were never shown in Russia) of Yeltsin performing in America with “sidekick Bill.” When this drunken brute spoke on behalf of RUSSIA, barely able to stand on his feet...And everyone around him, including Damn Clinton, was just laughing his head off...... Damn "even supported him from the inevitable fall from the podium a couple of times... To the answer of all the bastards who sold homeland.

[Corsair5912]

And officials who reward and erect monuments to Judas Gorbachev and Yeltsin must respond as accomplices of these creatures.

[Pilot200809]

This spotted CREATURE, together with its entire brood, will be wiped off the face of the earth, so that no traces remain, even down to the genes. in a word !!!CREATURE!!!

[ioann1]

Gorbi, while alive, must answer according to the law and stand trial.
For such a crime as treason and destruction of the country of the USSR, he must answer without any condescension to his age and the passage of time.
The same applies to those who were at the helm of power, namely Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Shushkevich and their vile camarilla.

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[antinon]

Hello.
I read almost everything, but I didn’t have enough patience for everything.
I think that the actions of this 3,14 dora should be unequivocally assessed by the court, however, in order for this not to happen again, we must have a completely different state structure, the electoral law must first of all change "IMHO, a person who does nothing for the benefit of the state should not ( paying taxes, serving in the army, etc.) have the same rights as citizens who perform these duties,” the right to vote should be an honor for a citizen, and not his duty, and you should not listen to liberals and talking heads from Geyropa.
Just my opinion, thank you.

[kvodrato]

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I never sympathize with Gorbachev, who is to blame for the December events in Almaty that led to clashes, but on the other hand, Gorbachev wanted to renew the USSR, reform the stagnant totalitarian-bureaucratic system of the Soviet Union, make it a truly equal Union, because it was planned to sign a new union treaty, and if it had been signed, the USSR (most likely without the Baltic states) but with the other remaining republics would have continued to exist, and perhaps even strengthened.
Who disrupted the signing of the union treaty? The putschists-GKChP, because of their attempt at a coup, after them everything went awry, all aspirations to preserve the union fell into disarray..

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In no case ... We do not need any revolutions - have passed. Any revolution casts the country, in terms of development, decades ago! Everything can be solved peacefully. To do this, you need only two !!! terms. The first is popular support for our leader (i.e., the president). And the second is a referendum! We have a democratic society ..)))) And believe me, as soon as the first condition is fulfilled - the second will follow immediately.

This is the road to nowhere - this is where it started - at school we spent evenings - what is democracy, perestroika, new thinking, glasnost and other crap. I then ran away to the football game - then I had something to listen to.... from the classroom - they say he set up the school in front of the district...

[Simon]

So, it was this new thinking that led to the collapse of such a huge country. Everyone wanted to live separately, but what they got was cut to the quick, economic ties were severed, people’s fates were not cared for, families were divided. To this day, many republics cannot stand firmly on their feet, and some have fallen into an economic hole. So the gasters flew to Russia to earn money, since they no longer had work. And remember how well we lived, we went to visit each other, now you’re afraid to go, everywhere people have taken up arms against the Russians. Russia will get back on its feet, but many republics will find themselves in the abyss, because they do not have smart, patriotic rulers who think about their people.

[VNM]

Gorbachev must answer for the death of the USSR.
And what does Gorbachev have to do with it? The collapse of the USSR is the result of the inoperability and short-sightedness of the entire system, of every employee and leadership of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the KGB, etc. Gorbach is only an official person and nothing more.
They wanted to remove Amin in Afghanistan, it almost happened, but OUR doctors saved him - well, we Russians can’t use vile tricks (like the Anglo-Saxons do all over the world).
Well, then: they got involved in a fight, incurred huge human and monetary costs and did not calculate that the Anglo-Saxons could come to an agreement with the Muslims on oil prices.
Not managers, but some children sat in our Politburo, if only they had studied the history of the Afghan colony.
Bottom line: they did the right thing by taking power from the communists and eventually giving it to Putin (he and his team do not make such mistakes)

[Cynic]

Quote: VNM

And what does Gorbachev have to do with it? The collapse of the USSR is the result of the inoperability and short-sightedness of the entire system

You see, not much time has passed, many witnesses are still alive, and communist China is still alive, so much so that it won’t work.

[easypay shop]

M.S. Gorbachev and A.I. Are Lukyanov still legally the highest elected officials of the USSR?

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[easypay shop]

Are Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev and Anatoly Ivanovich Lukyanov still legally the highest elected officials of the USSR?

If there is a separate Decree of the President of the USSR M.S. Gorbachev’s resignation, or the Resolution of the Congress of People’s Deputies of the USSR on the removal of M.S. Gorbachev from the elected position of President of the USSR, or who will hear M.S. in a public statement. Gorbachev dated December 25, 1991 at 19:XNUMX Moscow time, clear and specific words that have legitimate legal meaning and are pronounced in accordance with legal formulations, that M.S. Gorbachev resigns from the elected position of President of the USSR, please provide the facts.

The rights and duties of the Chairman of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, as well as the rights and duties of the President of the USSR, are specified in the Constitution of the USSR as amended on December 26, 1990.

By Resolution of the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR of September 4, 1991 N 2389-I “On the release of A.I. Lukyanov from the duties of Chairman of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR” Lukyanov A.I. was released from the duties of the Chairman of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, but not from the RIGHTS of the Chairman of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR.

Public appeal to Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev. Public appeal to Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev.

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Public appeal to Professor of Moscow State University, Doctor of Law Anatoly Ivanovich Lukyanov.

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[Nusret adigezalov]

) Expose the lies of the Universe (at least the main and most harmful parts of it to us)!, and it will be more difficult for actors to deceive the naive, and it will be HARDER FOR OTHER SCANNERS TO PLAY THEM - and there will be less meanness in life!, although “complete justice” (especially to the already dead) still won’t happen. And this is not the “meaning of life.”

Collapse of the Union. How could this happen? Where did the cunning "masters of the Empire" and their powerful special services look? ...

"Perestroika". :) And how could we, honest people, be deceived then! (once again!) Although our ass was “no stranger” (to the eternal lies and meanness of the “environment”), and many even didn’t give a damn, as long as there was a reason to “crow and show off in the center of vulgar attention.” But it was SOMETHING (super-arrogant)!!!

Few people now do not know, or at least do not guess (although they do not advertise their real opinion-suspicion), that any State is governed (according to special “traditions”) by groups of “vile bastards” who are always squabbling with each other. (It’s like this everywhere. Regardless of the “political scenery for SOCIAL INEQUALITY” and “the way to stimulate a working beadle”). ...

Let us not SERIOUSLY expect (like the morally deceived “honest fr@eras”) any “moral justice” (the belief in which is instilled in us by the paid pussy@balls of the ruling elite, including “opposition-political” ones, as well as the many-faced “intelligentsia” , teachers... and even “loving” parents along with their relatives [but already for free]) from the World, where even religion and morality are a “gradually evolutionary” invention of arrogant actors and deceitful parrot-drawers (especially those who in power or "at court").

... As always, here too (in this “coordinated outside and inside” collapse of the “Soviet” Empire) the STRONGER scum won.
What did we, naive fraers, expect? This is the developed-hypocritical, neatly vile, cynically “civilized” WEST (the birthplace of fascism [with their gas chambers] and the abode of the NUCLEAR T&PP@Rists of the planet [who blew up Hiroshima and Nagasaki, just for the sake of “political Pontus”, to keep in eternal Fear potential enemies, competitors in the “struggle for superiority” and “not obedient enough”, and thus “have” the World on your own]!) !

Everything was banal simple and off.
The "godfathers" of the Soviet empire were clearly demonstrated (on nuclear-free missiles) that in the event of a nuclear war, Russian missiles would no longer reach America (except perhaps one in a thousand), due to the OBVIOUSLY better American missile defense system (which they secretly developed despite the "agreements" ")! The more cunning Americans outdid us all. We had to “negotiate” the terms of the “vicergency”. Well, what can you do? Who could have known in advance? Even if I knew. You must be able to lose (without the “suffering bummer of honesty”). You need to choose the LESSEST OF LOSSES correctly. ... There’s just no need to exaggerate the capabilities of the “central king” and downplay the “k@if” of the local “boyars”. Moreover, all of them (these “scoundrels for life” who have succeeded in politics) have been accustomed since childhood to “humiliate themselves” before the stronger (superior) and to “bark” at the weaker (inferior). Unfortunately for moral people, this is the law of real struggle and success in life in this selfish, hypocritical World. It is we, the morally deceived honest buffalo, who suffer because of such things, but they DO NOT.
Local separatists (direct "destroyers of the Union") were sponsored by the same impudent overseas organizers of "orange revolutions" and "accelerators of the fall of the Evil Empires"!
The "democratic" Gorb @ chev (as a "political toastmaster" playing the role of a "cultural good master" for the "slaves of the state") simply "FORCEDLY INDELIVELY" turned a blind eye to this, with the connivance-indication of the ALREADY CAPITULATED central allied [real] authorities- "The bosses of the LOST [behind the scenes] Empire", LOST the arms race and finally understood the EXPLICIT techno-force superiority of the Enemy, already the ONE "nuclear T&RR @ Rist in law" and the thug "gendarme-overseer" on the planet, and reasonably agreed on a small shame of half-hidden phased neutralization and final VASSALIZATION "(so that the" Santa Claus "was completely sure that the" Santa Claus "would never again be able to" bark seriously "and would not really try to surpass him).

What do the victorious scoundrels (for example, in an arms race) do to the vanquished? They weaken them (lower them) “to the end” as much as they can. To minimize the risk of revenge and perpetuate one’s “superiority in capabilities.”

Tryndya bidlu about "patriotism", the rulers themselves did not care about their homeland. And when they were shown "Kuz'k's grandmother", they knelt down and poured this homeland almost to the last warhead!
those. RUSSIA NO LONGER HAS ANY SERIOUS NUCLEAR WEAPONS AGAINST THE USA! All Russian missile silos have long been liquidated, abandoned or are under the control of US intelligence services.
And the weak things that are left in Russia have long ago exhausted their 10-15 year shelf life! New NUCLEAR WARNINGS have not been produced for a long time. (The process of reducing the number of radioactive isotopes inside nuclear warheads leads to rapid degradation of the warhead, much faster than the “half-life in raw ore”, where there is a completely DIFFERENT AVERAGE DISTANCE between radioactive isotopes; ... i.e. the closer the mass of the “piece of warhead "to the critical mass, the faster the isotopes decay there! Because to the decays from the internal spontaneous "breakup" are added the decays from artificial external "slaps" (from neutrons emitted by isotopes decaying nearby), but so far without an explosive chain reaction, and even without significant heating as in a nuclear power plant).
The parrot barking of these corrupt adventurer-vassals (very similar to the children's vomits of arrogant dudes) is to fool one's own more, to steal more (by paying rent to the "world's godfathers") and simply to "crow in the spotlight" more than one's neighbor.
By the way, these vassals are secretly at one with the world’s bosses! For them, they semi-forcefully play the role of a “bad cop” .. in the fight against “not obedient enough” .. (for example, with proud freedom-loving Ukraine, which does not want to lie under anyone, as much as “required” .. world “godfathers”).

And for the ("vulgar", morally less deceived) MAJORITY of the beadle - the collapse of the Union - was simply an imitative and forced "CHANGE OF MASKS in the theater of empty-laughing idiots." (We all saw their faces and behavior THEN! By the way, it’s mostly them and their children NOW who are “nostalgic” for the Soviet Union in unison, picking up the OLD and outdated MASKS that they THROWN THEN [but are already too torn]. ...

It’s only the ideological “honest fraers” who don’t know (they’re running away from these thoughts) that “socialism” and “capitalism” (“authoritarianism” and “democracy”, etc.) are just different complexes of “colorful covers” -props" for equally "immoral" SOCIAL INEQUALITY, with their equally "petty" struggle for "better for themselves", ("immoral" - from the point of view of standard "moral" logic about possible "general justice and retribution for conscience”, which already at the beginning of life distracts part of the “cattle” from the real selfish struggle for their own “local superiority in pleasant things”).

Unfortunately, there is no better explanation (why, from whose stubborn "flaws" this "terrible" Union collapsed, without going, for example, along the path of semi-capitalist China, which in terms of the number of ethnic groups and population is a MUCH larger Empire) - unfortunately, no!

Truth (truth) is that “POSSIBLE nonsense” that BETTER explains the observed (POSTY) reality. Lying parrots (both the morally highly deceived [who want “respect and retribution”] and the less deceived [who show up only for the “center of attention” and money]) are irritated by such “unusual vipers.”

...Successful people, as we know, fight not with the “Social Pyramid of Inequality”, but simply with the “neighbor creature” (commonly competing for more “rich places”), while at the same time trying to “morally” guide [usually almost unconsciously, like “ lying parrot-drafter"] of all potential "competitors-frayers" for the spiritual struggle with the "mills of the Pyramid". And they are not particularly worried about the change of “political scenery”, “ideological masks”, “main directors” and even the name (and EVEN SIZE) of the “Theater”. )
__K. Stanibeslavsky “Historical Evolution of Social Acting and Stage Art as Its Part”, chapter 1 “Show-offs on stage and in the hall, or the competitive game of little-deceived lying parrots in the struggle for the center of attention and other situational pleasant things”, §2 “I don’t believe it! When I believed, I played worse, and more often they were branded as false." )

[Herman 4223]

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