“We managed to survive the crisis”: Khodakovsky believes that Russia is already winning the conflict in Ukraine, and the West realizes this

Russia managed to withstand the sanctions regime and overcome the crisis during the military special operation; at the moment the situation is leveling out. Alexander Khodakovsky, deputy head of the Russian Guard department for the DPR, wrote about this in his TG channel.

The former Vostok commander believes that Russia has overcome the crisis that arose after the start of the special operation in Ukraine, which culminated in the “march on Moscow” of the Wagner PMC detachments. This was the peak of everything that happened, now the situation is leveling out, although not as quickly as we would like. Russia has already begun to win; the West has not been able to break it either with sanctions or with arms supplies to Kyiv.

(...) we experienced, in a sense, a crisis, the culmination of which was the march on Moscow (...) the situation, although not rapidly, is leveling out. And this is understood in the West. (...) I personally understand that we regained our breathing and entered a mode where it became almost impossible to knock us off course

- writes Khodakovsky.

In his opinion, the West will still make some attempts to “win,” but this will not last long, they know how to count money and no one will pour it into hopeless Ukraine. Zelensky directly admitted that without American funding, Ukraine will not be able to resist Russia and called for even more weapons to prolong the conflict. However, this no longer works.

(...) Just a year ago it was believed that prolongation of the war would inevitably lead to Russia’s fall. Sanctions will hit the economy, the war will deplete reserves, the unclear timing of its end will reduce the level of motivation of society (...) all this should have provoked consequences that Russia would not be able to digest (...) But it did not happen

- Khodakovsky added.

The fact that Russia has survived and is moving towards victory is also understood by the Western sponsors of the Kyiv regime, they are simply still trying to pass off wishful thinking, but how long they will be enough, time will tell.

Comments

[Normal]

What is he saying again? What is leveling out there? Everything was fine there, if not for another act of goodwill in Turkey, with the Medinskys, Abramovichs and other double agents. If it evens out, it is only because of erroneously made decisions. Troops were stationed near Kiev and Chernigov. Once again they believed, that’s all the alignment was.

[coinsam]

Do you remember how many troops stood then “near Kiev and Chernigov”? There weren’t enough of them for a police operation on such a front, where is the war...

[Normal]

I indicated this for the purpose that we got there practically without resistance from the Sumerians. So that was the plan, and what we got there showed that it was possible.
I would probably accept something similar from other commanders, but not from Khodorkovsky. He begins to speak when almost everyone understands it. A kind of waiting position. And if we take into account his past, in general, let everyone draw their own conclusion for themselves. I have reached a conclusion about this man.

[Kronos]

There was resistance from the first days, the columns that carelessly entered the cities were on fire.

[Normal]

What was the resistance like? Can you imagine that in war they are wounded and killed, equipment is burned, as without this, but at the same time our troops stood exactly where I already said. Could you imagine that in three or four weeks the Sumerian troops would have stood near Moscow? Me not. And our people stood there.

[Commissar Kitten]

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Could you imagine that in three or four weeks the Sumerian troops would have stood near Moscow?

It's hard to imagine because it's incredibly stupid. A one-way road, no goals achieved, no tasks solved. But technically, nothing is impossible; Prigozhin, in company with a foolish air vehicle driver, traveled most of this way until, on his own initiative, he gave up.

[karabas-barabas]

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What was the resistance like?

Look at the direction from the north, from Belarus to Kyiv, what the landscape is like there and what is the difficulty for the attackers and the advantage for the defenders. The columns, up to 60 km, turned out not because they were stupid, but because it was impossible to attack there on a wide front like in the south, due to reservoirs north of Kyiv, forests and other impassable places. On the other hand, the Ukrainian Armed Forces could quickly transfer their forces to all directions quickly. In order to save and protect the columns on such a march, air control was needed, which was not available to the extent required. But due to the numerical and technical advantage, they were able to almost reach Kyiv and almost managed to gain a foothold. But the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not throw cotton balls and were able, as in Gastomel, despite the smaller number, to hold important strategic bridgeheads until reserves arrived. In some positions, the Armed Forces of Ukraine held out until the troops were completely destroyed. In the first 10 weeks of the war, there was no Western equipment except for a certain number of Javelins, Nlavs and several Bayraktars, everything rested on the courage of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, this must be recognized. In addition, strategic and tactical mistakes of the Russian Ministry of Defense, the absence of certain types of modern equipment, such as UAVs, communications, led to local victories of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which accordingly greatly raised the morale of Ukrainians and negatively affected the Russian soldiers. It was for this reason that, after a week or two, I don’t remember exactly, Putin recorded an appeal to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, saying that let’s come to an agreement. And the West, almost all the experts, did not believe that Ukraine would hold out for 2 weeks. And only when they saw that the Ukrainians were not going to give up, they decided to help. As for me, I believe that it was precisely because of the dispersal of forces across a bunch of directions that the Russian Armed Forces suffered a strategic defeat and were forced to retreat and take up defensive positions. The Ukrainians themselves say that if the Russian Armed Forces were concentrated in the south and east only, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine would now have more problems and most likely would have control of the territories up to the Dnieper, or even the entire coast.

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Could you imagine that in three or four weeks the Sumerian troops would have stood near Moscow? Me not.

Of course, PMC Wagner is different, but they almost reached Moscow. Now on the territory of the Russian Federation itself there are no particularly large forces of the Russian Armed Forces that could repel the march of a couple of brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Moscow, if they were suddenly able to show up in front of Rostov, purely hypothetically, since everyone is at the front, and even hundreds of thousands of Russian Guards will not be able to do anything to oppose army formations, except perhaps to conduct battles in cities for a while.

[Paul Siebert]

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I would probably accept something similar from other commanders, but not from Khodorkovsky. He begins to speak when almost everyone understands it. A kind of waiting position.

Have you, my friend, missed anything?
More precisely - no one?
The article contains an interview with the main Russian Guard of the DPR, Hero of Russia - Alexander KHODOKOVSKY.
And not with the traitor, foreign agent Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who sleeps and sees the defeat of Russia and its collapse into pieces...
I have drawn a conclusion about this person since the XNUMXs. And even earlier!
But to call KHODOKOVSKY a waiter is hard for me!
It’s very easy, Mr. Ordinary, to hang up labels while sitting in front of the computer in soft slippers...
It is much more difficult to EARN this right!..
What do you need?
To marinate in blood and shit in the trenches of Donbass, like 2014... Next to Alexander.
Then, Ordinary, I will listen to your opinion!
Fershteyn?

[Normal]

If I was confused, I would not have written. This is not a label, this is my opinion, and it was based on the stories that are freely available on the Internet. Do you think Motorola is a hero, what about Givi?

[astra wild2]

Do you have someone to replace him? It's all about personnel, and we don't have enough good personnel.

[Zoer]

Troops were withdrawn from Kyiv and Chernigov only because they could not hold this front. I just didn't have the strength. Then they also left Kherson and the Kharkov region. All this is due to the lack of forces and means that arose as a result of the capricious position of our turbo-patriots in power, and a gross underestimation of the enemy’s forces.

[Skobaristan]

I like reasoning based on afterknowledge. I know this from my work. When decisions are made based on information that is here and now. The next day, when everything was already known, the management: well, it was still clear. Why did you bother for so long? So do you: “miscalculations, and so everything is clear.” Oh well

[Sid2014]

Are they turbo patriots? Don't you think that they were planning the start of the SVO!

[Normal]

I agree with you but not on everything. There are a lot of examples in history where quantity is not always decisive, but lightning speed and an understanding of what the final goals are. Official Kyiv at that time was not ready for this kind of event. To be even more clear, and what I meant, I’ll add: the collective West was simply silent then, there were easy attempts in the form of justifications, when all the world leaders, speaking on TV, declared: we don’t want a war with Russia, we don’t We are a party to the conflict. This suggests that the lightning strike from our army was a revelation for many. Yes, they assumed, but they were not sure that we would dare and take this step. Remember how Western aid began: helmets, first aid kits, bulletproof vests, and compare with what is being given now. Do you think this is directly related to that forced march and what is happening at the moment? Of course yes. There are not enough people to hold the front and negotiations in Turkey are probably not the same thing, right? Moreover, when the figure of Abramovich flashes here and there during negotiations? The only option that comes to my mind is that the “peace party” then convinced of the need for negotiations, and they were able to convince of this. Hence the act of goodwill. There is no need to blame everything on a lack of human resources. In modern wars, everything is decided not by quantity, but by the pace of the operation itself. This is not the Second World War, where they fought at the bayonet point. If with the introduction of our troops strikes would have been immediately carried out on critical targets, believe me, even those 120 thousand would have been enough. If the government and the president sign an act of surrender, what difference does it make to us what the number of the enemy is? All electrical substations and television towers are destroyed, the Internet is blocked, and who would know what is happening in Krivoy Rog or Kharkov, as well as in the opposite direction. It’s just that in such moments, if you’ve already made up your mind, you can’t play dumb and play white and fluffy.

[Irokez]

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In modern wars, everything is decided not by quantity, but by the pace of the operation itself.

This is for those who want to quickly solve a problem in the modern world, but in the modern world, in addition to the army in the offensive, there are economic opportunities where if the army fails to cope with a swoop (gop-stop), then a siege begins and over time the besieged surrender or lose 100% .
The attack did not work and therefore the siege was applied.

[Normal]

It happened suddenly, because the army was acting, and army officials were giving orders, but when politicians got involved, everything unfortunately rolled back. Politicians must enter the final phase of events, when the enemy is forced to sign a surrender pact, when the entire top of the enemy is captured or blocked in the appropriate places, I don’t know if these are bunkers or something else.
Wasn't it the same before? Both Merkel and her colleague from France frankly admitted that all the Minsk agreements existed only to arm and train the Sumerians during this time. And the scenario was completely different: they were the ones who had to make a push into the LPR, DPR and take Crimea. And when this became obvious to everyone, the SVO operation was created. And at that time it accomplished its tasks, our troops stood near Kiev and Chernigov, I repeat, and then politicians and negotiators entered again. They had to withdraw not because of a lack of troops to carry out the special operation, but because the final goal was not clearly formulated. If there had been an understanding that it was necessary to either overthrow the top of the enemy by force or destroy it, there would have been enough troops. This is exactly what the Americans do always and everywhere: Saddam was captured and hanged, Muamara had the handle of a shovel pushed into his sphincter and stoned to death. And we got there and then they started scratching their turnips, how will we look before the world community? So how is it? Something has changed? Someone said in the West that Russians are honest and decent? No, after that the Northern Stream was blown up and the Crimean bridge was blown up, the cruiser was sunk, and all because of what? Because that’s exactly how they didn’t crush the hydra in its lair.

[Irokez]

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Politicians must enter the final phase of events, when the enemy is forced to sign a surrender pact

You are probably confusing who rules in the state of politics or the Moscow Region.
Therefore, your calculations are erroneous. There is a catchphrase that explains a lot - “The Last Argument of Kings,” which implies (or explains) that the softest means are used first, and the harsher ones are used if the previous ones do not work.
That is, from the beginning, politicians decide everything, and only when there is no solution to the problem does a war begin, but you can’t describe the situation when the military (probably themselves) got into a war, and then the politicians end it. Just the opposite: “Politicians start a war, and generals end it,” and by the way, they end it by looking back at the politicians (the heads of state).

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

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Both Merkel and her colleague from France frankly admitted that all the Minsk agreements existed only to arm and train the Sumerians during this time.

But they didn’t arm them, that’s the thing! An embargo was imposed by Western countries on the supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine. At the beginning of February, RIA Novosti published an article listing everything that foreign states have transferred to Ukraine over the past 8 years. It’s clear that the source is interested (especially at such a moment), but even their list turned out to be extremely pathetic. “50 ambulance Hummers, 50 Romanian grenade launchers, inflatable boats... 50!” Actually, photos and videos of the beginning of the Northern Military District demonstrate this: on the Ukrainian side there are entirely Soviet junk or their own few creations. To be honest, the largest supplier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces before the war was not the evil NATO, but the Russian Federation, which transferred Crimean reserves to Ukraine. Well, friend Recep didn’t embargo himself with any embargoes and sold a couple of dozen Bayraktars. But France and Germany managed to supply the Russian Federation with military equipment worth 14 million euros after 500 years (at the same time they supplied Ukraine with practically nothing). And while the “Sumerians” were “arming themselves” like this, the Russian Federation reported on the addition of hundreds of tanks, armored vehicles, guns, air defense systems, airplanes and helicopters every year out of eight years. Fortunately, the Russian military budget was many times larger than the Ukrainian one. So in 8 years the gap should have increased many times in favor of the Russian Federation. And it has increased - on paper.

[Kronos]

Let me remind you how the Wehrmacht chased the pace when it reached Moscow, and how it still had to retreat when its forces were exhausted and the USSR began its offensive. So here too, yes, you can quickly get far, but how will you then hold on to the occupied territories and repel the blows of the enemy forces that have not been destroyed? The Ukrainian authorities directly admitted that they were simply playing for time with negotiations; they could not sign any capitulation without the permission of the United States. As for the destruction of everything from the first days, they were unable to completely suppress Ukrainian air defenses; in such conditions, it is not possible to destroy enemy infrastructure. Blitzkrieg operates when the enemy is demoralized, but this was not the case here; Ukrainian troops were ready to fight.

[Alexander Golotov]

Yes, Abramovich didn’t decide anything there, which is why everyone drags him in like an eminence grise. Everything is much simpler and lies on the surface. There is a critical underestimation of the enemy’s forces, means and motivation, and there is an overestimation of one’s own forces, plus a lag in the most important component of modern warfare, namely reconnaissance and strike UAVs.

The push to Kyiv was designed for a police operation with small pockets of enemy resistance that would be significantly extinguished. They thought that there were monkeys with grenades and would run away at the sight of our tanks. In a word, the Crimean scenario. That's all. This has happened many times in history, and not only in ours. Well, we couldn’t hold such a front, there were heavy losses in personnel and equipment, there was no one to hold all these territories. They simply cut off the group’s supply routes. As we approached Kyiv, the resistance increased exponentially, plus logistics became more complicated. And who would you take Kyiv? Those 40-60 thousand bayonets that were there? Besides, they are already shabby. You must be able to admit and correct mistakes.

[Skobaristan]

There wouldn't be. As time passed, it became clear that a police operation was planned. And there were prerequisites. And everything could end in negotiations. Comrades Ukrainians were ready to sign everything that was required of them. And the troops were withdrawn from Kyiv when it became clear that the leash had been pulled, and to remain there, with such a shoulder of supply, would kill everyone.

[kebeskin]

Wars are not won on defense. Weapons are supplied to the enemy in sufficient quantities. There are many more people who can be called to the front. The country's economy is financed by NATO countries. There are no prerequisites for the end of the conflict on the horizon.
On the part of the United States and England, they will prolong this entire conflict as long as possible. Favorite tactic. Let two tribes of Indians beat each other, and we will help them.
Our army and economy still have a lot of work to do.

[Skobaristan]

You can call for it, even for pregnant women. They don’t win on defense, that’s true, but they also attack only when a window of opportunity appears. And the task of the Russian Federation is not to achieve a Pyrrhic victory.

[coinsam]

Khodakovsky writes everything correctly. In the “long-distance” race, Russia clearly outperforms Ukraine. Simply in order to drive this country into an acute mobilization clinch, it is possible to wage a war in the same way as now, without active offensive actions. The defense industry is riveting weapons, there are enough mobilized and contract soldiers, so that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will kill itself against our defense.

[Irokez]

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The Ukrainian Armed Forces will kill itself against our defense

And not only the Ukrainian Armed Forces. I have already posted my assumptions on the forum, but I will post them again and make my assumptions.

For a year and a half of sanctions and pressure on Russia, for some reason it never broke away from all the pressure of the collective West, and therefore expectations of our defeat turned into worries for its European future. Well, everyone can see what’s going on without me:
- Ukraine has now become like a suitcase without a handle and is a burden for the collective West, where hard-earned gains over decades of colonialism go through the financial and credit system. And now the question is how to get rid of the bottomless financial hole (Outskirts) and who will get rid of it and not lose face in the process.
- Strangely enough, the GDP of Western Europe is falling, but in Russia it’s at least the same, or even rising somewhere. For them, this is oh-oh-oh and over time it will be very painful to see.
- The interesting phenomenon of BRICS has become a new center of gravity for the previously alternative Anglo-Saxon democracy, where not only finance, but also industrial production flows, and we know from physics: - “If it has arrived somewhere, then somewhere it has departed.” Or, for example, the padishah had a harem, but here each wife goes to her separate husband and how he worries.
- Further, a very sensitive point is that the longer this SVO lasts, the more the Slavs die (very, very bad), but no matter how cynical or blasphemous it is to realize this, time goes to the benefit of rebuilding the whole world in a new way and world order, and the more this time lasts, the more the Anglo-Saxons lose influence and power over the world, and the world is transformed. And if the NWO ends quickly (let’s say with new negotiations, a truce, or like the Korean option), then everything that was before the NWO will gradually return to normal because the changes taking place in the world will not strengthen and will not gain a foothold in the new world order. (This is purely my opinion - as I understand and see).
- The USA, the main beneficiary, seeing the future in the form of several polar economies in the world, is already dragging production to itself, both European and Asian, which can be seen in the construction of microelectronics factories in the USA and the transfer of other vital production facilities to the USA, because China is also cutting off oxygen for them with the acquisition of Taiwan in the future. And if so, then the United States is not competitive without vassals and industrial slaves and without many resources (rare earths, uranium, some metals, and so on), which is also negative for them and all this reduces their competitiveness and hegemony with many internal political and social problems within itself countries with a diverse and highly respectful population. It is the mess they created in the form of the ATO and now the North Military District that, like a spark, ignites the flame of the global crisis in all spheres of life, and for them this is the loss of everything, well, except maybe their territory if it does not then split itself.
It’s something like this, think about who wins in the long run, but who wins in the short term is up to them. Again, this is my opinion.

[Kronos]

Ukraine maybe yes, but Europe and the USA no.

[Mikhail Maslov]

Absolutely rightly noted, with the amendment the EU is also trying to smash their heads against the wall. This is where we will help them. Disagreements are growing, both within the EU and between individual EU members and Ukraine. We and the West all wanted a quick victory and defeat of the enemy. But the war turned (thanks to our armed forces) into a protracted one, increasingly requiring injections to the detriment of its security and economy. So the process of “maybe negotiations” began. The crisis is just brewing and Khodakovsky is right, we in the Russian Federation are only getting stronger, which cannot be said about the EU

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

the war turned (thanks to our armed forces) into a protracted one

Thin!

[rotmistr60]

Russia managed to withstand the sanctions regime and overcome the crisis during the military special operation; at the moment the situation is leveling out.

So Khodakovsky began to feel optimistic. Given his previous and often harsh statements, this is saying something.

[UAZ 452]

Don’t you admit that serious people simply talked to Khodakovsky and explained that if the previous vector of media activity is maintained, he has every chance of sharing a cell with Mr. Girkin? So he... worked on the mistakes.

[Skobaristan]

It’s interesting, did the same serious people also talk to the leadership of Ukraine, and were they afraid that they would be in a cell with Strelkov? And that was: in the spring in the Crimea, and now I somehow lowered my eyes about the fact that it would be a long time...Z.Y. By the way, those who write from the other side usually call this gentleman Girkin. Well, please note.

[tralflot1832]

Khodakovsky could have chosen a more patriotic car for the photo - a UAZ, for example. Oh, yes - this is a German UAZ. Experts on turn signals - what year is this German UAZ. Everything is clear with Khodakovsky - he is a cog in the state machine. That he went to the Russian Guard in vain. He at least once he voiced his claims in a family manner. So criticism is within the chain of command.

[Trapp1st]

So Khodakovsky began to feel optimistic. Given his previous and often harsh statements, this is saying something.

What choice does he have: either radiate optimism, or continue to speak objectively and go sew mittens.

[Skobaristan]

The second comment is about: “sew mittens.” Clearly understood .

[Sandy Andy]

Looks like something's brewing. And Khodakovsky is aware. A leap forward in the last weeks of warmth, followed by consolidation in positions before the thaw?

[Eug]

As for me, the main factor of “leveling up” is the elections in the United States. Biden needs success, and they are ready to see it, if not in the defeat of Russia, then in a truce, something like they did not allow Russia to win.

[dump22]

Russia is already winning the conflict in Ukraine

And I’ll ask again (probably for the 10th time), what does he mean by the term “victory”?
What will be declared our victory?

[Skobaristan]

Our victory will be the achievement of the goals that were voiced and voiced by the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation. Remind me?

[Irokez]

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What will be declared our victory?

Sometimes it is worth talking about the final point of the movement not specifically and vaguely so that the enemy or enemies do not know or do not guess about the final goal of the entire event. Because they (enemies) will try to do everything to prevent us from achieving our goal. That is, information uncertainty plays into the hands of the enemy.
This is all an information war and asking specific questions on this topic is simply stupid.

[dump22]

Sometimes it is worth talking about the final point of the movement not specifically and vaguely so that the enemy or enemies do not know or do not guess about the final goal of the entire event... information uncertainty plays into the hands of the enemy.

You know, I've already seen this.
The USSR declared the construction of communism as its ultimate goal.
Moreover, no one clearly explained what this goal, communism, would look like; they limited themselves to the extremely vague formula “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”
And they probably did this precisely because “the enemies wouldn’t guess”?

The outcome of the movement towards this goal is known.

[Irokez]

Just the opposite, the goal was Communism, and since the enemies knew the end result, they contributed to ensuring that this goal was not achieved.
You are not understanding and comprehending something correctly, which is probably why you are confused and are not analyzing correctly.

[dump22]

That’s probably why you’re confused and not analyzing correctly.

Yes, you are absolutly right. I get confused and can't analyze it, which really annoys me.
My engineering education is probably a big hindrance for me.
Because I know that to achieve any goal, at least it must be “measurable”. That is, there must be some kind of objective, verifiable criterion by which one can clearly say whether the goal has already been achieved or not.

For example, to achieve victory in WW2, the allied countries clearly formulated such a criterion back in 1943 - the unconditional surrender of Germany. And Germany, our enemy, knew this criterion very well and nevertheless could not contribute in any way to prevent this goal from being achieved.

[Irokez]

Oh, how come two engineering educations have different analysis and logic - it happens.

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there must be some objective, verifiable criterion by which one can clearly say whether the goal has already been achieved or not.

It’s logical and quite correct, but we see that something went wrong and the criterion is somehow incomprehensible.
When it became clear that the USSR would win after all, our allies made a clear decision (later, but not immediately from the beginning of the war), that is, they sort of condemned it, but waited to see how it would go and just as cunningly sponsored Germany when it was strong and swept across the USSR (They have already bent Europe). And it turns out that there was no criterion for the unconditional surrender of Germany, but only calls, condemnations and intentions, which suggests that if they had spoken out right away, then Germany would not have had hopes and illusions and could have done something to neutralize their plans by delaying its defeat or would have brought the war to a truce, for example, or an agreement with the Anglo-Saxons on some kind of peace that would retain power in Germany, but also benefit the USSR. We don’t know how all the changes would affect the geopolitical situation in the world. After all, it was none other than the world bankers who sponsored Hitler for the war with the USSR, as well as now the Outskirts to confront Russia.
Germany, as it found itself in the position of being on the defensive, gradually weakened without replenishment from outside and building up the potential of the coalition and was not really able to counteract this and change the situation, although it wanted to conquer England with its engineering prodigies and remove one player, but time and resources no longer allowed it to be done.
Or, for example, the British deciphered the same ENIGMA, but due to secrecy they did not tell anyone, because if Germany finds out, then secret information will no longer come from the whirlpool of the information war. Therefore, information as well as final goals (true goals) are not advertised for their own good.
Well, if only a strong and powerful state is confident in its strength, then it is possible to declare the final goal for additional psychological pressure on the enemy, which can quickly complete the final goal (the hopelessness of the situation of the weak plays into the hands of the strong).

[dump22]

The USSR will still win, our allies clearly decided (later, but not immediately from the beginning of the war

Actually, WW2 began on September 1, 1939, and Great Britain was the first of the allies to enter the war. And the USSR, until June 22, 1941 (almost 2 years!) looked quite calmly at the war in Europe and waited.

if they had spoken out right away, Germany would not have had hopes and illusions

The very idea of ​​Germany's unconditional surrender was first announced by President Roosevelt on January 13, 1943 at a conference in Casablanca.

And of all three allies at that time - a previously bad precedent betrayal of the allies and the conclusion of a separate peace with the Germans was only among the Bolsheviks, who concluded it in WW1 (and yes, they did it out of despair, but nevertheless everyone in the world still remembered it well).

they also cunningly sponsored Germany when it was strong

I know that when the British declared war on Hitlerism in 1939, the USSR signed an agreement with Hitler on friendship and the border. That while Hitler was bombing London in 1940, the USSR was supplying Hitler with the resources he needed (bread, steel, coal) for this bombing.
That while the United States was fighting Japan, which attacked them, in 1941-1943, the USSR supplied the Japanese with much-needed oil from Sakhalin.

[Irokez]

If you noticed, we are still selling hydrocarbons and much more to the collective West, which sponsors and supports our enemy (Outskirts) and the fact that the USSR also traded with everyone in the 30s is normal practice.
War is a costly thing and you need money in any case, which forces you to trade with everyone who is not an obvious enemy and sometimes even negotiate with enemies about certain common interests that are outside the war brackets (some deliveries still go through the Outskirts).
By the way, according to past agreements, the USSR was obliged to supply Germany with some goods, which was done.

Until June 22, 1941 (almost 2 years!) the USSR looked at the war in Europe quite calmly and waited

It was necessary to attack Germany like this, or what? So we proactively entered Poland, pushed the Finns aside and generally tried to ensure that there was no war and advocated peace in every possible way, assuming that the USSR was not ready for such a war with Germany.
Diplomacy worked 100%. Well, it’s like an unspoken rule - “If your enemies fight with each other, you don’t really separate them, but just watch.” If you take someone’s side, you will immediately be a participant in the conflict and someone will fly to you, and your ally (let’s say England) will then ditch you, cunningly jumping out of the war. Such allies are worse than enemies.

[dump22]

Take someone’s side and you will immediately become a participant in the conflict and someone will fly to you

Right.
England made its choice in September 1939; it was the first to declare war on Hitler - and it “arrived”.
The USSR looked at this and also made its choice and concluded a treaty of friendship with Hitler. He decided that it was more profitable for him to feed Hitler with resources in the outbreak of the European war.

Your ally (let's say England) will then ditch you by cunningly jumping out of the war.

Right.
There is even a precedent for this in history - the Bolsheviks “threw away” England and France in WW1, concluding a separate peace with the Germans and cunningly jumping out of the war.

[Emperor_Alive]

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That while the United States was fighting Japan, which attacked them, in 1941-1943, the USSR supplied the Japanese with much-needed oil from Sakhalin.

Let's continue ...

While the USSR was fighting Germany, US industry supplied Germany
oil, machine tools, cars and much more...
And they were preparing a “nuclear baton” against the USSR.

[dump22]

While the USSR was fighting Germany, US industry supplied Germany with oil, machine tools, cars and much more...

Strange, I've never heard of this. But on the contrary, I heard about supplies from the USA to England and the USSR fighting Germany (Lend-Lease).

It is very interesting.
Please tell me, when exactly did these deliveries to Germany from the USA take place?

Here's what I know:
On March 11, 1941, President Roosevelt signed the Lend-Lease Act. This law provided for supplies to ALL countries fighting Nazi Germany.
But any supplies to Germany, on the contrary, were prohibited.

Hitler declared war on the United States on December 11, 1941. From that moment on, he ordered the sinking of all American ships.
And since November 1942, the United States had already fought against Hitler in North Africa.

So at what time was the US government collaborating with Hitler?

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Quote from: dump22

Actually, WW2 began on September 1, 1939, and Great Britain was the first of the allies to enter the war.

Well, on September 3, England was only three hours ahead of France, so they essentially entered the war at the same time. But Poland entered the war automatically on September 1st. And who will say that she is not an ally - she is the only country that fought from the first to the last minute of the war, be it the original Polish state, troops on the side of France, Britain and the USSR, or internal partisans of all stripes. And the Polish government has always been recognized at least by England.

[Alexander Golotov]

Well, if I’m not mistaken, then Poland did not enter the war, but was simply broken at the knee. And in general, I don’t understand all these tears in my vest about the poor fate of the Psheks. They constantly terrorized our border until the start of WWII. Their society in the 30s was very heavily militarized and they longed for war with the USSR, they wanted to chop off a piece of the pie. They served the Germans in the hope that they would “take them with them,” so to speak. And it was a big bummer when Germany agreed with the USSR on their division. So the Poles got what they deserved and, as history shows, they are a very ungrateful people

[Alexander Golotov]

Did you know that when Hitler in fact began the Second World War in 37 with the seizure of the Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia, the USSR was the only country that offered military assistance in repelling aggression? And that those same Britons and the French who were later the first to join WWII threatened us that if the USSR attacked Germany, they would automatically support this same Germany? That everyone was simply afraid and took a wait-and-see attitude towards Germany. But then they did not have such military potential. And if Hitler had been forced to capitulate at 37 after this trick, then in principle nothing would have happened. In the end, he realized who he was dealing with, that he could be impudent and take what was bad. He was given time to complete the preparation of a large army for the subsequent major war. And all because the communists in the heart of Europe were feared more than the arrogance of Hitler

[FoBoss_VM]

Wars are not won on defense. This is the ABC of military art. Those. Until the Russian flag flies over Kiev, there can be no talk of any victory. And before Kyiv there are also Kharkov, Sumy, Chernigov, Dnepropetrvsk, Poltava, Krivoy Rog and of course Odessa and Nikolaev. But seeing the situation at the front and the capture of Kupyansk, you understand that at this rate it will take us 15-20 years to reach Kyiv. And there are no prerequisites for changing war tactics, and this is very frightening to be honest

[Skobaristan]

Is it possible to decide in one fell swoop and “hang the flags” over Kiev, and further down the list. Can . Mobilization, everything is on a war footing. What next? Can you look at least half a step?

[dump22]

What next? Can you look at least half a step?

+100500
And then looking into the future is simply scary.
That's why no one does it.

[Irokez]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

And there are no prerequisites for changing the tactics of warfare,

If you don’t see something in the changes, it’s because you forgot what happened in the beginning and what is already happening now.
There is probably a lack of analysis and logic.

[Lynx2000]

Alexander Khodakovsky, deputy head of the Russian Guard department for the DPR, wrote about this in his TG channel
The former Vostok commander believes that Russia has overcome the crisis that arose after the start of the special operation in Ukraine, which culminated in the “march on Moscow” of the Wagner PMC units...

Mlyn, I don’t understand, is he actually sitting in the position, or is he formally listed? Deputy What is the head of the FSVNG Main Directorate for the DPR responsible for? Does he have a lot of free time for “fantasies”? In any structure, from the RF Ministry of Defense, the Russian Guard, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs to the Ministry of Emergency Situations and Rosselkhoznadzor, even deputy chiefs and unit commanders rarely give interviews, only the press service.
His “panic”, along with well-known bloggers (here recently, in an article about lies in the army, one was quoted in a commentary) are memorable on the eve of the Ukrainian counter-offensive...

Py.Sy. Don’t you think that there is a lot of it in publications on VO? The setup of the background for the photo is too sickening, it’s good that Gelika didn’t put a pit bull on the hood (where are the FSB haters?).

[Skobaristan]

He aims further into politics, this is clearly readable.

[astra wild2]

“they would reduce the level of motivation in society,” they really hoped that the authorities would lose control or unrest would begin in society, and then they could finish us off

[opposite28]

(...) we experienced, in a sense, a crisis, the culmination of which was the march on Moscow (...) the situation, although not rapidly, is leveling out. And this is understood in the West. (...) I personally understand that we regained our breathing and entered a mode where it became almost impossible to knock us off course

- writes Khodakovsky.

Comrade is on the right path...

[Aleprok]

That’s why the next case went into work - “Armenia is not Russia” (((
As for the crisis, I would not yet say that it has been overcome. Maybe militarily yes, but economically the hardest part is just beginning

[Carlos Hall]

I remember when I said that a long war was in Russia’s interests, and many voted against me.

[Fangaro]

And a year and a half ago, after the start of the Northern Military District, the West did not expect that Russia would unravel its adversary in a couple of weeks?

Khodakovsky believes that Russia is already winning the conflict in Ukraine, and the West realizes this

SVO. This is about achieving the goal of a special operation. And Khodakovsky talks about “we managed to survive the crisis.” The SVO is not a call for citizens to unite, it is not a partial mobilization. This is a military operation that was planned with the participation of a limited number of professional, career military personnel and volunteer mercenaries. If Khodakovsky’s SVO means the whole country survived, then he is wrong.

[certero]

Quote: Zoer

Troops were withdrawn from Kyiv and Chernigov only because they could not hold this front. I just didn't have the strength. Then they also left Kherson and the Kharkov region. All this is due to the lack of forces and means that arose as a result of the capricious position of our turbo-patriots in power, and a gross underestimation of the enemy’s forces.

They took me out because the management did not want to admit their mistakes and correct them. A correction would be to announce mobilization and bring conscripts into battle to increase the number of troops. And they would put the finishing touches on the enemy. The best example is the Finnish war when the Soviet Union made a mistake at the very beginning by gathering insufficient forces but then quickly corrected the situation

[Fangaro]

Quote: certero

Quote: Zoer

Troops were withdrawn from Kyiv and Chernigov only because they could not hold this front. I just didn't have the strength. Then they also left Kherson and the Kharkov region. All this is due to the lack of forces and means that arose as a result of the capricious position of our turbo-patriots in power, and a gross underestimation of the enemy’s forces.

They took me out because the management did not want to admit their mistakes and correct them. A correction would be to announce mobilization and bring conscripts into battle to increase the number of troops. And they would put the finishing touches on the enemy. The best example is the Finnish war when the Soviet Union made a mistake at the very beginning by gathering insufficient forces but then quickly corrected the situation

The Soviet-Finnish one is hardly the best example. If you read even here, on VO, the History section, then the completion of that military campaign, or that war (they call it differently) means not only more drugs, equipment and weapons, but also negotiations with major countries. And the persuasion of large countries that do not directly support Nazi Germany, and the Finns and us, to end the fighting. And our Foreign Ministry made its contribution to complete this with our victory.
Personal opinion.