The State Duma proposed allowing the Russian Guard to include volunteer formations

Deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation and members of the Federation Council have prepared a package of bills, according to which it is planned to allow the Russian Guard to have volunteer formations in its composition. Thus, the authors of this legislative initiative propose to extend to the Russian Guard the full scope of powers and mechanisms that are currently already assigned to the Ministry of Defense.

According to the head of the State Duma Committee on Information Policy, Alexander Khinshtein, the introduction of relevant initiatives is due to the active participation of Russian Guard units in special operations in Ukraine, where they perform tasks similar to the functionality of the Ministry of Defense. Based on the fact that currently the military personnel of the Russian Guard not only take an active part in hostilities and ensure martial law in new regions, but are also involved in ensuring the protection of the state border, participate in territorial defense and the fight against terrorism. Based on this, it would be logical to give the Russian Guard the right to have its own volunteer formations.

According to the proposed bill, by decision of the head of state, the command of the Russian Guard can create volunteer formations for their subsequent involvement in the implementation of certain tasks related to ensuring defense during the period of mobilization and martial law, as well as in conditions of an active armed conflict, conducting counter-terrorism operations, etc.

Thus, if these initiatives are adopted, the current legal and social guarantees for volunteers of the Ministry of Defense will fully apply to the volunteers of the Russian Guard.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

In fact, MIA retirees are a dime a dozen. So this is quite logical

[Cossack LiKhoy]

A logical solution, especially in the context of the Northern Military District..

[Egorovich]

Create SMERSH, like in WWII, and stop putting up new fences and fences in your garden.

[dmi.pris1]

For SMERSH you also need an appropriate socio-political system... And not a new sign...

[Adrey]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

So it's quite logical

Excuse me!.. Literally “yesterday”, all “volunteers” were voluntarily and forcibly sworn in by the Ministry of Defense as contract soldiers.
What now!?..

[dmi.pris1]

What again? The Russian Guard became part of the Ministry of Defense? This applies to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. So, what again?

[Arzoo]

The Guard has a serious shortage. In addition, it is expected that our state will have new regions with a disloyal population. We need to ensure order, clear out militants, and cover the rear of the Defense Ministry. The only thing I would create is separate divisions. Still, people will volunteer for the Guard for a reason; there may be a very specific motivation.

[bone1]

What will they offer next - volunteer firefighters or ambulance? - truly - no brain - consider a cripple

[Leshak]

Quote: Bone1

What will they offer next - volunteer firefighters or ambulance? - truly - no brain - consider a cripple

Volunteer fire brigades (VFD) have existed for quite a long time.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Leshak

Volunteer fire brigades (VFD) have existed for quite a long time.

At one time there were also youth programs (UDPD), but their purpose was exclusively training with the absolute absence of any bonuses.

[culinary]

Quote: Bone1

What will they offer next - volunteer firefighters or ambulance? - truly - no brain - consider a cripple

Maybe that’s why the photo shows an attachment for firing blanks..

[rocket757]

The State Duma proposed allowing the Russian Guard to include volunteer formations

How is that? Like DND?

[AdAstra]

Another Makhnovshchina? """"

[Leshak]

...involved in ensuring the protection of the state border

It would be logical to give the state the right to have border troops. And then everything else.

[dump22]

There are already border troops - this is the “FSB Border Service”.

[NDR-791]

Don't you see the difference between the service and the troops? If not, then I sympathize

[Adrey]

Quote: Leshak

It would be logical to give the state the right to have border troops.

Another troops with their own Aerospace Forces and Navy? And generals and admirals? Are we sure we won’t break? Maybe it’s better to bring the existing ones “to mind”?

[NDR-791]

Reminds me of the mid 90s. Each tit has its own troops. Are you already getting ready to cut?

[crocodile in the bathroom]

And those National Guardsmen who are working there now, like mobilized ones?

[Ross xnumx]

According to the head of the State Duma Committee on Information Policy, Alexander Khinshtein

Based on the fact that currently the military personnel of the Russian Guard not only take an active part in hostilities and ensure martial law in new regions, but are also involved in ensuring the protection of the state border, participate in territorial defense and the fight against terrorism. Based on this, it would be logical to give the Russian Guard the right to have its own volunteer formations.

We have too many structures that have broad powers and meager returns. All you can see is the “passenger cars” of the Russian Guard darting around the streets, guarding apartments...
There is a strange feeling that these are the kind of problems that are being created, the solution of which requires payment, but both DRGs and a cart of drugs can be carried across the border...
What if we remember the old experience of the work of the security forces of the USSR and stop trying to make new rules and powers out of thin air? I don’t think that any Khinshtein was smarter than VIL, IVS and FED (not a camera).
At the same time, I think it’s strange to form people’s squads to protect against ethnic gangs...

[Starover_Z]

Quote: ROSS 42

All you can see is the “passenger cars” of the Russian Guard darting around the streets, guarding apartments...

Now they will be allowed to recruit “assistants”... And at this time, production is shouting about a shortage of workers. So, of course, why go and work hard somewhere when you can volunteer (I mean in peacetime) and get no less money.

[dump22]

Please explain to me:
How are volunteers different from contract workers?

Both are hired voluntarily and serve for money.

[Adrey]

Quote from: dump22

Please explain to me:
How are volunteers different from contract workers?

In this case, it seems that the “volunteers” will be very different from the mobilized

[ximkim]

Probably Russia exists due to the chaos.

Deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation and members of the Federation Council have prepared a package of bills, according to which it is planned to allow the Russian Guard to have volunteer formations in its composition

How could it even come to this?

[Soul of Russia87]

This is a mess in the eyes of the naive public, but in reality it is a clear plan for the collapse of the country. Everything is going according to plan ©

[AllBiBek]

Funny.
Just yesterday information leaked that Zolotov was negotiating with Lotos and Prigozhin Jr. with a view to including the orchestra (what was left of it) in the Russian Guard while maintaining the structure, hierarchy, internal awards, and other things.

It looks like the mechanism has started.

[Doctor]

The army is at the front, the FSB is catching arsonists, but who will stop these “Rosguards” if something happens?

[Soul of Russia87]

Do these clowns even remember how, not long ago after Wagner’s campaign, they loudly beat themselves in the chest with their heels that they would not allow any semi-official military formations in the country? And here you are, another addition to our zoo.

[Adrey]

Quote: Soul of Russia87

Do these clowns even remember how, not long ago after Wagner’s campaign, they loudly beat themselves in the chest with their heels that they would not allow any semi-official military formations in the country?

You do not understand! This is different!
These will do just the opposite! Voluntarily and selflessly!

[Egor Luzhikov]

A reasonable decision, otherwise there are plenty of potential volunteers among retirees.

[KSVK]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

In fact, MIA retirees are a dime a dozen. So this is quite logical

All the shit from the Ministry of Internal Affairs was already “leaked” to the Red Pogonniks.
The Red Shoulders exist to fight the internal enemy, that is, the civilian population dissatisfied with the situation in the country. This is a legitimate goal. The cops are there to maintain law and order, and the army is to fight EXTERNAL enemies. Krasnopogonniki are guardsmen with the heads of citizens tied to the saddle.

[Thrifty]

KSVK - "with the heads of citizens tied to the saddle of a personal Mercedes, Infinity, Cayenne, Lambargini"...

[Gardamir]

Let's add a voluntary Duma squad.

[Fangaro]

Volunteer formations...
There are in the Army, there will be in the Russian Guard, they are being created in the border regions...
The FSB will not allow this.
There don't seem to be enough employees in the Police.
Is it possible to sign up as a volunteer to participate in all plenary sessions of the State Duma?
Those who are richer in mind should volunteer for the Federation Council for mandatory presence at all hearings.
So can we support our Duma members?

[antiaircrafter]

The State Duma proposed allowing the Russian Guard to include volunteer formations

Nonsense. Whoever wants to, voluntarily signs a contract and serves.

[GUSAR]

It is high time. Remove from the Ministry of Defense, if possible and necessary, and reassign to the Russian Guard

[alystan]

During its formation, the Internal Troops and special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation were transferred to the Russian Guard. It turns out she now also needs volunteers. Isn’t it just to send them to these very “hot spots”.

And here is from Wikipedia.

The Federal Service of the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation (Rosgvardia) is a federal executive body that carries out the functions of developing and implementing state policy and legal regulation in the field of activity of the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation, in the field of arms trafficking, in the field of private security activities, in in the field of private detective activity and in the field of private security.

I tried to look for the difference between the National Guard and the Russian National Guard. I found that on the basis of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation appeared, and a central governing body for them was created - the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation (abbreviated as Rosguard).

It turns out that there is a National Guard and a Russian National Guard, and that they are not the same thing.

[Oleg Apushkin]

It’s not a very clear decision, they’ll make it like Wagner and where will we go again?

[Lynx2000]

Deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation and members of the Federation Council have prepared a package of bills, according to which it is planned to allow the Russian Guard to have volunteer formations in its composition.

Voluntary formations within the units of the FSVNG, in my understanding, are the enrollment in the service of a citizen of the Russian Federation on a contract basis according to the vacancy.

If we are talking about the so-called. voluntary people's squads in the protection of public order, so history has examples: under the USSR, the creation of the DND took place on the basis of primary Komsomol, party and trade union branches, which were located in each institution (university, enterprise or organization, etc.).
The powers (rights and responsibilities) of the DND were regulated by the Resolution of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Council of Ministers of the USSR on March 02.03.1959, 05.02.1962 “On the participation of workers in the protection of public order in the country”, by the Resolution of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces on February XNUMX, XNUMX “On strengthening responsibility for attacks on the life, health and dignity of workers police and people's vigilantes." The areas of activity of the DND for which groups were organized were varied, from assistance in protecting the state. borders, to assistance in protecting the environment and biological resources...

In the Russian Federation, in 2014, the Federal Law “On the participation of citizens in the protection of public order” was adopted, on its basis, the constituent entities of the Russian Federation are adopting regional laws “On the regulation of certain issues of citizen participation in the protection of public order in the Republic, territory or region.”

Py.Sy. Let's first clarify (the article does not indicate) whose legislative initiative was sent for consideration of such a “project” in the State Duma of the Russian Federation? There are already laws, there are volunteers, why else should we “fence the garden”?!

Regarding the Russian National Guard (FSVNG), created on the basis of explosives, for especially excitable citizens, I would like to note that earlier (since the early 90s), the main part (80% of the explosives) of what you call “red shoulder straps” of the armed forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation were in the majority - military personnel of operational units (motorized rifle units) operating on the basis of the military regulations of the Russian Federation, they had no time, as you put it, to “drive away civilians”, their units of the Military Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation were sent either to Central Asia or to the Caucasus, the task was to fight illegal armed formations, manifestations of terrorism, assistance to the Russian PoV in protecting the state border, assistance to the public security police in maintaining law and order by police units of the PoV.