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Asia Times: US fails to convince Zelensky to start negotiations with Russia

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Asia Times: US fails to convince Zelensky to start negotiations with Russia

The American government is unable to convince Ukrainian President Zelensky to begin negotiations with Russia. Based on this, the paths of the West and the Kyiv regime are increasingly diverging, which is reflected in the readiness to allocate additional funding to continue the Ukrainian crisis.


As Asia Times notes, Zelensky can still convince the US Congress to give him more money for military operations, but this could ultimately be his last victory. He will probably receive another cut in military support package, after which he will be sent away forever.

Contrary to the hopes of the Kyiv regime's Western handlers, the Ukrainian army failed to achieve a breakthrough during its widely publicized "counter-offensive." At the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have used up a significant part of their strategic reserves. Among other things, the Ukrainian army lost Western-supplied weapons and many soldiers trained in NATO countries. The publication also notes that the daily losses of the Ukrainian army amount to about a thousand soldiers.

A number of NATO countries, including the United States, have made it clear that they do not approve of the military tactics used by the Ukrainian command, despite the fact that much of it was built using Western computer modeling tools using data obtained by American intelligence.

The main purpose of Zelensky’s trip to the UN General Assembly and the White House is, first of all, an attempt to enlist the support of the West necessary for the continuation of the armed conflict, and in particular, to achieve congressional approval for the allocation of another support package in the amount of $24,9 billion, as well as new supplies of weapons.

All these conclusions look strange. They are trying to make everything look like Zelensky makes decisions himself. In fact, Zelensky did, is doing and will do what he is told overseas. Otherwise, the United States will find a quick replacement with a figure more loyal to itself.
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  1. yurybaxter
    yurybaxter 21 September 2023 12: 22
    +1
    but the American government needs it.....
    1. Silver99
      Silver99 21 September 2023 12: 29
      +4
      Something doesn’t fit in: the “American government” apparently exists separately from Biden. They just agreed on missiles after the F-16, it doesn’t look like they care about the negotiations.
      1. Real Pilot
        Real Pilot 21 September 2023 13: 40
        0
        Ze doesn’t want to become Pashinyan...
        Here you give in - and that’s it!

        Forgive me, I’ll quote (with all due respect to our Israeli friends):
        In the world there is no fighter brave,
        Than a frightened Jew ...
        1. bayard
          bayard 21 September 2023 16: 08
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          Quote: RealPilot
          In the world there is no fighter brave,
          Than a frightened Jew ...

          “Mom, I’m going to war” - comedian Zelensky. The entire production there is prophetic and autobiographical.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 21 September 2023 12: 57
      +2
      Nonsense! The Yankees know what the world has been dragged into, and they will help in the war for a very long time!
      1. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 21 September 2023 14: 00
        0
        How to say ...

        Because the question of when and how to dispose of the clown from Bankova depends not only on Uncle Sam. And the timing of his “help”...
      2. bayard
        bayard 21 September 2023 16: 33
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        Quote: Thrifty
        The Yankees know what the world has been dragged into, and they will help in the war for a very long time!

        They might want to help, but they have elections, and spending on the war in the Northern Black Sea region greatly spoils the karma of the democrats. They need a truce, which the Russian Federation is now very actively trying to persuade. therefore, there will be strikes deep into the territory of the Russian Federation; strikes have already been carried out on ships in Sevastopol. All in order to motivate the towers to collude.
        As a result, the United States will hold elections as a diplomatic state needs, quickly accept used ones into NATO, conduct new mobilizations, supply weapons, and prepare reserves. And in a year and a half it will be possible to continue. Yes, during this time the Armed Forces of Ukraine will also appear using the F-16.
        In the meantime, they are killing Zelensky. And this is also a reason to persuade the towers to collude. They say we take down the clown, stop the war, Russia is not bombed and terrorist attacks stop. And you give us elections, a respite, and then the curve will take us out.
        No - war, so war. Until Victory.
  2. ABC-schutze
    ABC-schutze 21 September 2023 12: 22
    0
    And what, Uncle Sam has already “resolved the issue” with Moscow?.. And “convinced” Russia to start some kind of “negotiations” with the lead singer of the big top on Bankovaya?..
    1. Letun
      Letun 21 September 2023 12: 46
      -2
      Quote: ABC-schütze
      And what, Uncle Sam has already “resolved the issue” with Moscow?.. And “convinced” Russia to start some kind of “negotiations” with the lead singer of the big top on Bankovaya?..

      Moscow has already said a hundred times that it is ready for negotiations. But the scoundrel Zelensky, you see, introduced a clause into the constitution where negotiations are prohibited....
      1. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 21 September 2023 13: 31
        -1
        And Moscow has also said a hundred times that as time goes on, its conditions for the Bandero-Nazi regime, in the event of a hypothetical discussion of the issue of “starting negotiations,” will become increasingly harsh...

        As for the “maternity restrictions” of the clown from Bankova, from Russia’s side, this is nothing more than a statement of fact... The Rat has painted itself into a corner...

        And this is exactly the case when she will have to be finished off, without giving any “emergency” exit for escape. The time for any “escapes” (including “negotiations”...) for this composition of the tent on Bankovaya has already irreversibly passed...
        1. Letun
          Letun 21 September 2023 13: 46
          +1
          Quote: ABC-schütze
          And Moscow has also said a hundred times that as time goes on, its conditions for the Bandero-Nazi regime, in the event of a hypothetical discussion of the issue of “starting negotiations,” will become increasingly harsh...

          Soooo, they know how to speak harshly with sternly knitted eyebrows in the Kremlin. And VVP, and Lavrov, and Medvedev, the champion of tough statements. But the point of that chatter is exactly the same as that of ours.
          1. ABC-schutze
            ABC-schutze 21 September 2023 13: 56
            -2
            Well, judging by the sporadic flea “negotiation” bustle of Uncle Sam and the fussy running of the clown from Bankova in “all directions.” There is still a lot...

            And I believe this is because Moscow does not limit itself to “threatening statements” only...
            1. Letun
              Letun 21 September 2023 16: 32
              +1
              Quote: ABC-schütze
              Well, judging by the sporadic flea “negotiation” bustle of Uncle Sam and the fussy running of the clown from Bankova in “all directions.” There is still a lot...

              There is definitely a point. The transfer of atacms to this runner clown from Bankova was practically agreed upon.
              Quote: ABC-schütze
              And I believe this is because Moscow does not limit itself to “threatening statements” only...

              And they agreed precisely because Moscow limits itself only to threatening statements.
              1. ABC-schutze
                ABC-schutze 21 September 2023 22: 53
                0
                There is “sense” when the transferred weapons and military equipment solve the assigned tasks and achieve the set goals. And it is not determined by your emotions. And quite specific and objective assessments of the effectiveness of the combat use of supplied weapons and military equipment and their role in solving assigned tasks and achieving set goals...

                FIRST of all, - the ratio of losses (of ALL types...) of the parties. And this ratio is by no means in favor of the Kyiv Banderos - the Nazis. And the PRACTICE of the SVO shows that no amount of “supplies” of this sad and growing trend for the banking clowns will in ANY way change...

                Because the destruction by strikes of the Russian Armed Forces, the military potential of the Kiev Bandera-Nazis, as well as their economic and energy potential (including irreversible. In the same energy sector, more than 30% of their infrastructure was irreversibly destroyed.) is an ORDER OF ALL higher at a rate faster than causing damage to Russian facilities and Russia's military potential, from the sporadic "snarls" of the Kiev Banderos - the Nazis...

                The cemetery of “buried hopes” for the “defeat” of the Russian Armed Forces is already quite extensive - “javelins”, “irises”, “Carl Gustavs”, “Stingers”, “bayraktars”, “highmars”, “leopards”, “challengers”, “ 777", "Bradley"... And with new "supplies" it will only become more extensive...

                And where is the “victorious” result?.. Is this preparation for the “conscription into the ranks” of characters under the age of 65 and “17-year-old” Armed Forces of Ukraine?..

                So, if “yes,” then this is the result of EXACTLY INTELLIGENT and PLANNED actions of the Russian Armed Forces. Incl. and "response"...
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    2. pettabyte
      pettabyte 21 September 2023 12: 57
      +1
      How many years did it take Oink to negotiate?
      So we had an elected president 404 and could start the SVO in 2014 stupidly at his request.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 September 2023 12: 23
    +2
    The US fails to convince Zelensky to start negotiations with Russia
    fool Well, we don’t need noodles, that’s in.... The USA didn’t really convince, and England definitely guaranteed Zele’s support. request And according to the US and the EU, they will continue to finance it for a long time... request
  4. Appraiser
    Appraiser 21 September 2023 12: 25
    0
    The US fails to convince Zelensky to start negotiations with Russia! It’s not clear why they need to convince so that once again there would be a statement that “we” were deceived again by promising ???? You just need to bring everything to its logical conclusion, because the winners are not judged. soldier
  5. Msi
    Msi 21 September 2023 12: 26
    -1
    The American government is unable to convince Ukrainian President Zelensky to begin negotiations with Russia.

    Well, I don’t believe in the independence of the so-called. Ukraine. The story of independence is beneficial primarily to the West...it frees their hands.
    If it’s not us, it’s all themselves....
  6. Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 21 September 2023 12: 28
    +3
    Something I didn’t quite understand the author belay First he says The American government is unable to convince Ukrainian President Zelensky to begin negotiations with Russia.. And then he claims In fact, Zelensky did, is doing and will do what he is told overseas Some kind of metaphysical paradox (c). You would have decided in the end request
  7. Uprun
    Uprun 21 September 2023 12: 28
    +3
    What nonsense! Where have you seen a puppeteer persuade a puppet to dance?
  8. Msi
    Msi 21 September 2023 12: 30
    -4
    The daily losses of the Ukrainian army amount to about a thousand soldiers.
    Well, somewhere like that it is.
    How do we like to write about Konashenkov here...??? Understood. Konashenkov’s new “branch” is Asia Times...
    Or maybe it’s simpler, I bought a controlling stake...
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 September 2023 12: 33
    +1
    The paths of the West and the Kyiv regime are increasingly diverging
    Well, that's a strong word. Today, the war in Ukraine is beneficial to the United States, which means it will continue with active or not so active military and financial assistance from the West. The Americans do not intend to shell out money alone, so Europe will have to tighten its belts again. At best, the Anglo-Saxons (USA, Britain) will change the president and his entourage, which is within their power.
  10. Nexcom
    Nexcom 21 September 2023 12: 36
    +3
    The kakels began to butt heads with the bzdysheks - an embargo was introduced on Polish onions, tomatoes, apples, etc. laughing In retaliation for the grain.

    Bzdysheki - "happy".... Yes

    PS Love has passed - and all this is not for long...... (c) crying
    1. yurybaxter
      yurybaxter 21 September 2023 13: 04
      -2
      Quote: Nexcom
      PS Love has passed - and all the time is short...... (c) crying

      well, it’s unlikely that nothing makes friends better than mutual hatred of another... and this, in relation to us, they have a carriage and a small cart
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  12. I dare to_notice_
    I dare to_notice_ 21 September 2023 12: 54
    0
    Yeah... that's what I see... oil painting!
    Somewhere... in the depths of the “American government”... after failed attempts to convince Zelensky himself (!)...
    - I guess I should...
    - Do not...
    - Fine. What if?..
    - Not worth it!
    - Clear. Or maybe it’s necessary?
    - Not necessary!
    - It's clear. Would you at least allow me to stop funding?
    - Try this! You've been assigned this operation, so take action! (With)

    Classic!
  13. Pavel73
    Pavel73 21 September 2023 12: 56
    0
    It’s not Zelensky who can’t be convinced! And all the Bandera-fascist riffraff, on whose pitchforks he is firmly impaled. He only broadcasts THEIR demands and carries out THEIR orders.
  14. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 21 September 2023 13: 02
    0
    If the US Congress blocks the next package of military assistance, then Ze and Co. will immediately have many different desires, the first of which is: “... I want to live at any cost, even as a prisoner in a Russian prison, at least anywhere, just live: don’t kill me. .."
  15. Rt Rt
    Rt Rt 21 September 2023 13: 07
    0
    Funny, why are there any convincing, they turned off the faucet and that’s it. This same Jew lives on suction
  16. Saffron
    Saffron 21 September 2023 13: 30
    0
    By printing such headlines, they take us for idiots... Zelensky, completely controlled by the West, does not listen to the United States??? Maybe the US is simply saying the wrong thing, which is basically what we see
  17. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 21 September 2023 19: 54
    0
    Asia Times: US fails to convince Zelensky to start negotiations with Russia

    Zelensky is a tame monkey on a rope. Wherever the United States takes it, the monkey will jump there.
    If the United States fails to convince Zelensky of something, then this means only one thing: they are not even trying to convince him of this.