A Su-34 front-line bomber of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed in the Voronezh region

A Su-34 front-line bomber of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed in the Voronezh region, the crew managed to eject. Russian resources report this with reference to the military department.

At the moment it is reported that the Su-34 bomber crashed on the territory of the Voronezh region, the crew managed to eject, the life and health of the pilots are not in danger, they have already been evacuated. The Ministry of Defense states that the plane was on a training flight, had no ammunition on board and crashed far from populated areas. There is no destruction on earth.

At about 10.00, a Su-34 aircraft crashed while performing a scheduled training flight. The crew of the aircraft, consisting of two people, ejected and evacuated to the home airfield. There is no threat to their health

- said in a statement.

The cause of the bomber's crash has not yet been established; a special commission will look into this. It is preliminary reported that this could be a technical malfunction.

With a high probability, the Su-34 was based at the Baltimore airfield in Voronezh, which is where the front-line bombers of the 47th Bomber Aviation Regiment, transferred in 2021 from Buturlinovka, are stationed. The Baltimore airstrip allows the regiment to use Su-34 bombers with a full combat load and refueling to attack Ukrainian positions.

Su-34 - Russian multifunctional fighter-bomber designed for striking aviation means of destruction against ground targets of the enemy in the operational and tactical depth in conditions of strong opposition. Able to carry out missions without cover fighters. Uses long-range air-to-surface and air-to-air guided weapons with multi-channel capability. Equipped with highly intelligent radar countermeasures and defense systems. The flight range is up to 4 km, the maximum speed is up to 000 km / h, and the combat load is up to eight tons.

Comments

[yurybaxter]

often began to fall due to "malfunctions"...

[Kronos]

It flies a lot and crashes a lot, because there is a lot of wear and tear on the equipment that is not new.

[Irokez]

Quote from yuribaxter

don't talk nonsense my friend

What's all this nonsense, young man? According to your version, why do planes crash?

[Kronos]

When a plane is shot down, it is rare for pilots to survive, especially if there were videos of the shoot down as it happened in the summer when 4 units were shot down.

[bayard]

Quote: Kronos

When a plane is shot down, pilots rarely survive

The Su-34 has an armored cabin. And better than the Su-25.
But if it had been damaged during a combat mission, there would already be a victorious howl on the other side of the front and a bunch of footage and videos on all public pages.
And as for crashes, yes - aviation now flies many times more often than in peacetime, the load on pilots and technical staff is enormous, equipment gets tired, a tired technician overlooked something, but simply according to the theory of probability, MTBF and emergency cases, everything is proportional on the fly.

[bk316]

And as for crashes, yes - aviation flies many times more often now

Not quite like that at times here people who are not even close to the topic are groaning and indignant, but they began to fly TENS of times more compared to what it was 10-15 years ago.
Well, laymen don’t know that the safety criterion is not the number of accidents, but the number of accidents per flight hour. But the main thing is to gurgle, this is VO.

[bk316]

It flies a lot and crashes a lot, because there is a lot of wear and tear on the equipment that is not new.

Nonsense in the second part of the phrase.
The frequency of accidents naturally depends on the number of flight hours.
But it depends little on the wear and tear of the equipment.
On the contrary, statistics say that new models often suffer from so-called childhood diseases. Then changes are made to the flight manual or to the aircraft themselves, and the frequency of accidents per flight hour drops.
Well, I’m not saying that the Su-34 cannot be old; they were put into service 10 years ago.

So learn the materiel, my dear.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Irokez

According to your version, why do planes crash?

I'll tell you a secret, planes fall because they fly. And the more they fly, the more they fall. True, for the most part, the notorious “human factor” usually comes up; malfunctions are less common.

[Irokez]

You are absolutely right, but I would like to hear the answer from "yurybaxter"
who for some reason remained silent. He called what you wrote to me nonsense. It feels like a TsPSOShnik or a communist from last century, or just blah blah blah.

[bk316]

It feels like a TsPSOShnik or a communist from last century, or just blah blah blah.

Yes, I think the third. It flew in for a minute and will fly away. Now this happens often.
And for anyone interested in military flights and how it used to be in the recent past, I recommend reading the memoirs in Zen. Type “Colonel Chechel”, you won’t regret it.

[bk316]

And the more they fly, the more they fall. True, for the most part, the notorious “human factor” usually comes up; malfunctions are less common.

Certainly. And this is also connected.
Firstly, more young and inexperienced people fly more.
Secondly, flying more makes you tired.
And thirdly, they don’t just fly more, they fly in more difficult conditions.
Previously, the twenty-third sawed and sawed in a circle above my head at the dacha.
And now there are groups of 35 and once a week simulated combat and aerobatics, and last week night flights.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote from yuribaxter

often began to fall due to "malfunctions"...

They are used this way more often than before. Here the equipment could have failed or the crew made a mistake. Anything can happen.

At the moment it is reported that the Su-34 bomber crashed on the territory of the Voronezh region, the crew managed to eject, the life and health of the pilots are not in danger, they have already been evacuated. The Ministry of Defense states that the plane was on a training flight, had no ammunition on board and crashed far from populated areas. There is no destruction on earth.

At about 10.00, a Su-34 aircraft crashed while performing a scheduled training flight. The crew of the aircraft, consisting of two people, ejected and evacuated to the home airfield. There is no threat to their health, the message says.

How beautiful the Su-34 is in the photo.

[knn54]

-Su-34 was based at the Baltimore airfield
It's time for the airfield to change its radio call sign.

[Alex DHG]

How did it come to Dolgintsevo, did you appreciate it? How many pigs were covered?

[George Miloslavsky]

They began to fall more often because they began to fly more often. More aircraft, more flight hours for the pilot, and accordingly, more emergency statistics. That's why training flights are needed, to get up when you fall.

[faiver]

everyone is alive and thank God, and planes have always crashed, they will figure out the cause over time

[dmi.pris1]

And this is the main thing - the lives of the pilots. And the planes operate continuously, they consume resources, and defects appear. This is hardware.

[AUL]

A Su-34 front-line bomber of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed in the Voronezh region, the crew managed to eject. Russian resources report this with reference to the military department.
At the moment it is reported that the Su-34 bomber crashed on the territory of the Voronezh region, the crew managed to eject, lives
and the health of the pilots is not in danger; they have already been evacuated. The Ministry of Defense states that the plane was on a training flight, had no ammunition on board and crashed far from populated areas. There is no destruction on earth.

At about 10.00, a Su-34 aircraft crashed while performing a scheduled training flight. The crew of the aircraft, consisting of two people, ejected and evacuated to the home airfield. There is no threat to their health

- said in a statement.

Is this information repeated three times for especially gifted people?

[Borik]

The main thing is people are alive. The plane will not be built soon

[tralflot1832]

An extremely interesting photo in Yandex from a satellite from AVB Baltimore. The photo is clearly not recent.

Have they really started to move?

[Rom8681]

Alive, this is very good, but there is a high percentage of accidents

[bk316]

Alive, this is very good, but there is a high percentage of accidents

Which? What is the percentage of accidents per flight hour for the Su-34?
Which do you think is big and which is small?
Do you understand this or are you just babbling?

[Old_geologist]

I think that the percentage is the same, it’s just that the intensity of pilot training and combat sorties has increased multiple times compared to peacetime. Therefore, accidents began to occur more often.

[bk316]

I think that the percentage is the same, it’s just that the intensity of pilot training and combat sorties has increased multiple times compared to peacetime

So you think, and he writes. And it doesn’t matter what bullshit, the main thing is to write.
People go to the Internet not for information and not WITH information. And for dopamine and endorphin - drug addicts, what can you do?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Rom8681

Alive, this is very good, but there is a high percentage of accidents

The percentage of accidents has always been directly proportional to the number of flights. In aviation there is even a concept in statistical data - flight time per failure.

[bk316]

The percentage of accidents has always been directly proportional to the number of flights. In aviation there is even a concept in statistical data - flight time per failure.

Span, this is known to ANYONE who has ever been interested in the topic of flight accidents.
But by that It doesn’t matter - the main thing for them is to write something.....

[air wolf]

Training flights are only on a simulator, it’s time to think with your head, now there are such simulators, there is no need to fly, minus

[AUL]

Of course of course! And you can go fishing on the computer, there are such realistic simulators!

[bk316]

And you can go fishing on the computer, there are such realistic simulators!

Right! Catch it on the computer, wither on the computer and eat it with beer on the computer.

[Piramidon]

Quote: air wolf

Training flights are only on a simulator, it’s time to think with your head, now there are such simulators, there is no need to fly, minus

Yeah, I played some “Microsoft Flight Simulator” on my computer for a year and now I’m ready to fly on a combat aircraft.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

Flight range is up to 4 km, maximum speed is up to 000 km/h, combat load is up to eight tons.

They forgot to say that it also costs 4 rubles. It’s a pity that due to someone’s negligence and bungling, this HUGE money, which includes our tax rubles and pennies, turned into a pile of charred scrap metal. Thank God at least the pilots are safe...

[nepunamemuk]

Quote: Leader_Barmaleev

Flight range is up to 4 km, maximum speed is up to 000 km/h, combat load is up to eight tons.

They forgot to say that it also costs 4 rubles. It’s a pity that due to someone’s negligence and bungling, this HUGE money, which includes our tax rubles and pennies, turned into a pile of charred scrap metal. Thank God at least the pilots are safe...

deduct from pilots

[km-21]

Particularly indignant is the post on duty that there were no casualties.
As if huge losses do not cause any suffering to the people,
with whose money the destroyed plane was built.

[Irokez]

Quote: Leader_Barmaleev

It’s a pity that, due to someone’s negligence and bungling, this HUGE money, which includes our tax rubles and pennies, turned into a pile of charred scrap metal

Imagine that a bird might have gotten into the engine, or lightning, or metal fatigue, or even defective metal when it was rolled at a factory, and you are sure of the person’s guilt. Most likely it is the designer’s fault that his plane crashes.

[bk316]

They forgot to say that it also costs 4 rubles.

Not worth it at the exchange rate, it costs about 3.
But it’s pointless to calculate based on the exchange rate. Same as the selling price.
Cost is about a yard. Not cheap of course.

[km-21]

We're already sick of so many accidents.
These are no longer random malfunctions.
This is systemic sabotage.
Including from the FSB.

[bober1982]

Quote: km-21

We're already sick of so many accidents.

How many accidents can you count without getting bored?
In 1981, there were 9 (nine) accidents and disasters of the Su-24, and by this year the machine itself had been brought, one might say, to perfection.
In other years it was no better, as well as in other types of aircraft.

[km-21]

Quote: bober1982

In 1981, there were 9 (nine) accidents and disasters of the Su-24, and by this year the machine itself had been brought, one might say, to perfection.

Su-24s rolled off the production line at a rate of 60 vehicles per year, and this was in peacetime. And Su-34 - only 10 each, and for the military. The loss of every thirty-four is 10% of annual production down the drain. In 2023, 2 bombers have already been lost in training flights alone. What if we add in combat losses and accelerated wear and tear under combat conditions? If this continues, the VKS will face degradation of the aircraft fleet.

How are you going to win?
With your smart comments?
Or will Kim Jong-un help?

[bober1982]

Quote: km-21

How are you going to win?

Not you, but us.

Quote: km-21

In 2023, 2 bombers have already been lost in training flights alone

Not just anymore, but everything.

[Nikolaevich_IXI]

How do you know what is “total”? Don't you think that other losses are being hidden?

[bk316]

We've already had so many accidents.

Drink some valerian, you are our hysterical person.

[km-21]

Quote: bk316

Drink some valerian, you are our hysterical person.

With your indifference, people like you ruined a large country 30 years ago.
Want to repeat it?

[bk316]

With your indifference, people like you ruined a large country 30 years ago.

Do you think your tantrums are interesting to anyone other than you?
Here's a pie for you as a gift.

you told me just the truth
and I want it terribly
such as to crap
howl to get a whimper

[rotmistr60]

the crew managed to eject. There is no threat to their health

And this is the main thing. The commission will look into the reason. And as was previously customary in such situations, flights of aircraft of this type should be suspended until the causes of the accident are clarified.

[spirit]

They write that the landing gear did not come out, and without it there was no way to land, they went to the ejection zone where they ejected

[Uprun]

The striped ones recently crashed their ultra-modern and unworn F-35, they searched for three days, and asked civilians through social networks to suggest a landing site. Well?
Everything that flies tends to fall, it’s not our element there, the same applies to water, everything that floats tends to sink.

[km-21]

It’s better to compare what percentage of losses are from the US aircraft fleet or from the Russian aircraft fleet.
For the Americans, the loss of several aircraft is completely imperceptible.
And we count every plane.

[certero]

Anyone understands that the future belongs to unmanned aircraft. But these expensive planes worth billions will become a thing of the past.
Imagine if the Russian army now had several thousand drones with tactical and technical characteristics of at least the l2 type from the Second World War, which it would not be a shame to send and which could be produced in the thousands per month.

[bk316]

But these expensive planes worth billions will become a thing of the past.

So the hunter is also quite expensive.

[Kronos]

Thousands of drones are at the level of a full-fledged aircraft and will cost the same as that aircraft.

[75 Sergey]

It would be better not to report anything at all.... SVOYNA will write off everything.

[Rom8681]

Quote: bk316

Which? What is the percentage of accidents per flight hour for the Su-34?
Which do you think is big and which is small?
Do you understand this or are you just a buffoon?

I don’t know, but about 10 percent of those released were lost in accidents.
And the percentage of accidents per flight hour can be established and said that it does not reach it

[bober1982]

Quote: Rom8681

but about 10 percent of those released were lost in accidents.

For the Tu-22, these losses were 75%, this was the level.

[Dedok]

Quote: bk316

They forgot to say that it also costs 4 rubles.

He's not on course costs about 3.
But it’s pointless to calculate based on the exchange rate. Same as the selling price.
Cost is about a yard. Not cheap of course.

did you even think before publishing these numbers?
The state (owner of production) has 300% of the profit???
Or is UAC a “private company”?

[bk316]

The state (owner of production) has 300% of the profit???

What’s the problem with selling to China or Algeria with a 300% profit?
Namely, prices in dollars are taken from foreign contracts - 36 lyams.
This is a market, if your competitors have a higher price, sell it. And no one is interested in the cost price at all. What do you think is the cost of the hawala nine, which now costs 4 lemmas in the showroom?
Moscow Region charges different prices.
So I'm happy for our state.

[Navi-8]

Quote: Piramidon

Accident percentage always was directly proportional to the number of flights. In aviation there is even a concept in statistical data - flight time per failure.

Not always. Depends on the type of flight - flyby after technical test, test flights, combat flights, etc.

[Rom8681]

Quote: bk316

So you think, and he writes. And it doesn’t matter what bullshit, the main thing is to write.
People don't go to the Internet for information or WITH information.

More than a thousand F 35s were produced, 9 aircraft were lost in accidents
But we produced 10 times less Su 34 and also lost that many in accidents.
What is the percentage of accidents per flight hour for the Su-34 f 35.
Which do you think is big and which is small?