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“Fifth generation tank”: Israel presented the Merkava Barak MBT

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“Fifth generation tank”: Israel presented the Merkava Barak MBT

The Israeli Ministry of Defense officially unveiled the new Merkava Barak MBT, which is positioned as a “fifth generation tank.”


According to the military department, the first units were delivered to the 52nd Armored Battalion of the 401st Brigade after five years of development.

The Barak tank is the result of a joint effort between several Israeli defense companies, such as Elbit Systems, Rafael and Elta, a subsidiary of Israel Aerospace Industries. The tank is equipped with sensors that provide target detection and are part of an integrated system that allows the exchange of intelligence information in real time between a tank and other military units, heralding what the IDF calls “a true revolution on the battlefield.”

The Barak is a further upgrade of the Merkava IV that leverages advances in armor protection and digital warfare. In terms of design, the new modification largely repeats its predecessor: the driver's seat is located on the left side of the hull, the turret is in its rear, and the engine is in the front. The tank is controlled by a crew of 4 people, which includes a driver, commander, gunner and loader.

In terms of firepower, the Merkava V retains the same weapon configuration as the Merkava IV: a 120 mm smoothbore gun from Israel Military Industries with the ability to fire at a distance of up to 4 km with high penetration projectiles and guided munitions. Additional armament includes a 7,62 mm coaxial machine gun, another 7,62 mm machine gun mounted on the right side of the turret, and a 60 mm mortar with an internal breech.

One of the features of the Barak tank is a high-tech helmet developed by Elbit Systems and called IronVision. It provides a 360-degree view of the battlefield for the tank commander with AI-assisted recognition and digital marking of targets.

The Barak tank is also equipped with the advanced Windbreaker missile defense system developed by Rafael. This system is capable of detecting incoming ATGMs and causing them to detonate away from the tank. The firepower of MBTs has also been improved. The fire control system, also developed by Elbit, allows for "precise attacks at idle and on the move" both day and night.

Defense Minister Yoav Gallant emphasized the symbolic date of the tank's presentation: Israel marks 50 years since the 1973 Yom Kippur War. He stated that the Barak tank represents an "extraordinary leap forward" in the capabilities of the armored corps and will "constantly guarantee the IDF's qualitative advantage, both defensively and offensively."

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  1. Smoked
    Smoked 20 September 2023 08: 09
    +5
    An excellent modern tank, straight out of science, just like in a Hollywood movie. The main thing, the main thing is that in the next intifada, the Palestinians won’t have a swarm of cheap drones, etc. They will bang on the hull and break glass, if the cumulative jet does not enter somewhere important in the tower.
    1. Silver99
      Silver99 20 September 2023 08: 13
      +2
      All theoretical developments cannot claim to be a super-duper, it’s one thing to chase Bedouins through the desert, and another to meet in a real battle with a high-tech enemy, I think a headset will be of little help there.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 20 September 2023 10: 32
        0
        Why "Barak"?!
        They would also call it Barn or Cardboard...
        In honor of Obama, or what?
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 20 September 2023 12: 19
          +7
          Quote: Shurik70
          Why "Barak"?!

          Probably the laziest person in VO already remembered that “barak” is “lightning” in Hebrew. laughing
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 20 September 2023 14: 17
            +2
            Quote: And Us Rat
            "barak" is "lightning" in Hebrew.

            About how! laughing
            So I'm not the laziest. Did not know.
            But where was their sales department interested? How can they then import these tanks in a world where half the people know English, but do not know Hebrew?
            1. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 20 September 2023 23: 06
              +1
              Quote: Shurik70
              How can they then import these tanks in a world where half the people know English, but do not know Hebrew?

              Well...Israel exports its Barak air defense systems to English-speaking countries and has no problems!
        2. alystan
          alystan 20 September 2023 12: 37
          +2
          In honor of Obama, or what?

          They had their own prime minister, Ehud Barak.
    2. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 20 September 2023 08: 17
      +10
      The tank is serviceable, but by what criteria did they decide to classify it as a 5th generation tank? Apparently the same uninhabited turret does not exist. Just another modernization of a time-tested platform.
      1. Smoked
        Smoked 20 September 2023 08: 21
        -4
        Because there is a new model in the line. They told you this is a new product!
        1. Orange Bigg
          Orange Bigg 20 September 2023 08: 22
          +10
          But the new generation of the tank must be radically different from the previous one in some way, otherwise it’s just another modification and PR move.
          1. Smoked
            Smoked 20 September 2023 08: 24
            -7
            You buy consumer goods of new models, right? Well, it's the same here.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 20 September 2023 11: 07
              +2
              Quote: Smoked
              You buy consumer goods of new models, right? Well, it's the same here.

              Not the same.
              When a new feature phone model is released, no one calls it an iPhone.
              The fifth generation of tanks should have at least an uninhabited turret, a sealed armored capsule for the crew with the possibility of further upgrade to remote control.
              So “Five” is just a model number, not a generation.
          2. tchoni
            tchoni 20 September 2023 08: 59
            +4
            It differs in its combat control system... Isn’t it clear? The level of information support for the crew, awareness, quality of communication, the ability to use smart ammunition with a controlled detonation point, the ability to receive intelligence information from drones/satellites and other sources in real time and other goodies, including visibility at the level of a passenger car, or even better ... This is what really distinguishes the generations of tanks, and not these “uninhabited towers” ​​with which they have been experimenting for fifty years and still cannot adapt them to the job. And as for the experience of war with a technologically advanced enemy, the Jewish gentlemen have plenty of it. And against a numerically superior one as well.
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 20 September 2023 09: 23
              +2
              including visibility at the level of a passenger car, or even better... This is what really distinguishes the generations of tanks, and not these “uninhabited towers”,
              ....this is, in your words, if the T-34 is removed from its pedestal and stuffed with the goodies you listed. then it will become the 10th generation... come to your senses... I won’t reprint it... read my post below
              1. tchoni
                tchoni 20 September 2023 16: 16
                +3
                Don't forget to change the armor for a composite one. Add dynamic and active protection, replace the engine a little, attach generators to it, make new shells for the gun... What would be a crowbar made of uranium, what would be with remote detonation.. And so that this detonation with one button in one click would be programmed, and not required the extension of the integral with parallel input of machine codes by the entire crew.. Communications, an automatic command and control system for troops at least at the battalion level with integrated reconnaissance and support... Don’t forget that same helmet... What, that means, through the armor it’s like an X-ray and in the multispectrum .., a mechanized ammunition rack with insulated charge storage, a movable turret floor, a coffee maker, a dry closet, a microwave oven... And yes... There will be no price for that thirty-four from the pedestal.
                1. Repellent
                  Repellent 20 September 2023 16: 33
                  -1
                  Quote: tchoni
                  Make new shells for the cannon... Something like a crowbar made of uranium, something with remote detonation...

                  Amused. Why does the "crowbar" need remote detonation? what
                  1. km-21
                    km-21 20 September 2023 21: 14
                    0
                    Quote: Repellent
                    Amused. Why does the "crowbar" need remote detonation?

                    Because Russia lags behind in the field of high technology,
                    that all the smart people have gathered on this site and are having fun.
                    1. Repellent
                      Repellent 20 September 2023 22: 02
                      -2
                      Quote: km-21
                      Russia lags behind in the field of high technology because all the smart people have gathered on this site and are having fun

                      The tendency to make unfounded but broad generalizations is, as a rule, a consequence of a narrow mind hi
              2. tsvetahaki
                tsvetahaki 21 September 2023 04: 39
                0
                Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                including visibility at the level of a passenger car, or even better... This is what really distinguishes the generations of tanks, and not these “uninhabited towers”,
                ....this is, in your words, if the T-34 is removed from its pedestal and stuffed with the goodies you listed. then it will become the 10th generation... come to your senses... I won’t reprint it... read my post below

                It will become a rival to the T-54 - i.e. will go up a generation.
                To advance 10 generations, you need to hook up anti-gravity devices.
            2. alexoff
              alexoff 20 September 2023 14: 02
              -1
              What, in previous merkavas everyone had a poor connection and knew nothing? There wasn't even a laser rangefinder? And where are these high-tech opponents, sitting in their own countries and making threats on the Internet, but in fact they are putting forward a tank battalion for one brave man with a pistol, and the best way to fight the enemies is their own leadership, according to Arafat’s behests, stealing humanitarian aid and investing money in Israel .
            3. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 21 September 2023 22: 03
              0
              All these newfangled “cool” fire control systems - until the first hit with a Lancet or a blank. And then - for repairs.
            4. resident_again
              resident_again 21 September 2023 22: 55
              -1
              And as for the experience of war with a technologically advanced enemy, the Jewish gentlemen have plenty of it. And against a numerically superior one as well.


              What are you talking about, Israelite? Are you and your country where you really fought with an army at the level of the USA\Russia? Arabs at the controls of the S-400 do not count! Look, the Ukrainian monkeys also managed to use the Patriot as an MLRS and, naturally, fell in love with it.. The Cornet will work this Merkava and won’t ask for a passport.. They fought with a technologically advanced enemy. Laughter and that’s all.
              1. stone
                stone 25 September 2023 11: 41
                0
                ...an army at the level of the USA\Russia?...They fought with a technologically advanced enemy. Laughter and that's it.
                It’s laughable and just to compare the Russian army with the US army lol
                “Cornet” will handle this Merkava and won’t ask for your passport..
                It won't work. He has a working serial KAZ
          3. Alex777
            Alex777 20 September 2023 20: 39
            0
            Quote from Orange Bigg
            This is just another modification and PR move.

            So far this is exactly what it looks like.
      2. Doctor
        Doctor 20 September 2023 08: 55
        -7
        The tank is serviceable, but by what criteria did they decide to classify it as a 5th generation tank? Apparently the same uninhabited turret does not exist. Just another modernization of a time-tested platform.

        By layout. The people in the back were moving in front. The turret too, which allows you to balance the vehicle and make the gun longer and longer-ranged.

        Soon everyone will follow this path. Yes
      3. blackGRAIL
        blackGRAIL 20 September 2023 10: 32
        +2
        The tank is serviceable, but by what criteria did they decide to classify it as a 5th generation tank? Apparently the same uninhabited turret does not exist. Just another modernization of a time-tested platform.

        This is the author's comment. The tank is even called Merkava 4 Barak. 4!!! And no 5.
        1. hagen
          hagen 21 September 2023 10: 28
          0
          Quote from: blackGRAIL
          This is the author's comment. The tank is even called Merkava 4 Barak. 4!!! And no 5.

          Once upon a time, they did not dare to give the Tu-22m a new name, although in fact they created a new aircraft. This decision was explained by the peculiarities of the acceptance of new equipment into service. It is quite possible that assigning the status of a new generation to a modernized model pursues near-technical organizational goals. And here we are scratching our heads out of nowhere... Why does it matter to us what generation the new tank was assigned to? The main thing is how he will respond to changes in tactics used in battle. Will it meet the stated goals of achieving victory over the intended enemy?
      4. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 20 September 2023 12: 23
        +3
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        By what criteria did they decide to classify it as a 5th generation tank?

        Based on the criteria of situational awareness and network-centric capabilities.

        Quote from Orange Bigg
        The same uninhabited tower apparently does not exist.

        Israeli tank builders do not consider this concept to be particularly significant at the moment.

        Quote from Orange Bigg
        Just another modernization of a time-tested platform.

        You could say that.
      5. Aizen
        Aizen 20 September 2023 20: 16
        +3
        Who said that a sign of a 5th generation tank should be an uninhabited turret? because armata has something like this?
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 20 September 2023 08: 25
      +9
      Well, this is another modernization of the Mk-4, not the Mk-5. It is officially called Mk-4 “Barak” (Lightning). The only sad thing is that even the modernization of combatant Fours will take six years.
      1. PN
        PN 20 September 2023 08: 34
        0
        Send it to us for biathlon next year. Let's race around the training ground and shoot at cans.
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 September 2023 08: 51
        -4
        Aron. Maybe this is Barak for you - lightning, but for us a barrack is a one-story wooden structure, in which sawdust and shavings from wood processing waste are used as filler between the walls. The barrack has been modernized and turned into a frame prefabricated wooden house. hi drinksMat, in Vologda they are going to build a 9-story piece of garbage like this. 5 floors have already been built.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 20 September 2023 09: 11
          +10
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Aron. Maybe this is Barak for you - lightning, but for us a barrack is a one-story wooden structure, in which sawdust and shavings from wood processing waste are used as filler between the walls. The barrack has been modernized and turned into a frame prefabricated wooden house. hi drinksMat, in Vologda they are going to build a 9-story piece of garbage like this. 5 floors have already been built.

          Well, different languages. In Phoenician, which like Hebrew belongs to the West Semitic group of languages, “barak” also means lightning. Hanibal's nickname "Barca" did not come from the wooden building.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 20 September 2023 09: 53
            -3
            Aron is a Merkava, in Russia it’s a Barn with an extension. You don’t care and we don’t care, and we are violet as others call us. This applies to both Israel and Russia. Everyone follows their own line.
        2. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 20 September 2023 12: 27
          +6
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Maybe your Barak means lightning, but our barak is a one-story wooden building

          Well, the tank itself is our design, not yours. laughing
          Therefore, he is not a barn, but a lightning bolt. wink
  2. Stoler
    Stoler 20 September 2023 08: 10
    -11
    Armata is better. it really doesn't exist but it's better soldier
    1. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 20 September 2023 08: 15
      0
      What do you mean she doesn’t exist? You were probably joking?
  3. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
    Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 20 September 2023 08: 12
    +4
    Israel makes good weapons, but everything is tested on the battlefield. As the wise mother from "The Irony of Fate..." said: We'll wait and see.
  4. NAF-NAF
    NAF-NAF 20 September 2023 08: 17
    +7
    In the “fifth generation” tank there is a CHARGER.... fool
    1. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 20 September 2023 08: 47
      +4
      Quote: NAF-NAF
      In the “fifth generation” tank there is a CHARGER.... fool

      This classification of tanks by generation, from the evil one, if I’m not mistaken, was invented by the Americans as one of the marketing tools for the sale of military equipment.

      According to their own classification, if compared with 5th generation combat aircraft, then for tanks it will be the 4th generation, which is associated with further robotization of vehicles, improvement of weapons and protection, radical changes to the classic layout, and an uninhabited turret. Fourth generation tanks include the K2 and T-14.
      They (the bourgeoisie) consider the M1A2 Abrams, Challenger 2, Leopard 2A5, and Leclerc tanks to be third generation tanks. They also included the Merkava Mk 4 in this generation.

      wink Merkava Mk 5 replacing the four, it’s like a VAZ-2105 replacing a VAZ-2107, like there are more buttons, the seats are different, it looks more presentable, but the base is old...
  5. Winnie76
    Winnie76 20 September 2023 08: 17
    +5
    What a fierce hi-tech. But what about without an automatic loader on a fifth-generation tank? Or with a kosher charger. Or maybe they just forgot
  6. 123_123
    123_123 20 September 2023 08: 22
    +6
    Without in any way belittling the achievements of the Israelis in the field of tank building, and they really exist, it is probably premature to consider a tank with a crew member loading the same gun as a next-generation tank.
    1. alexoff
      alexoff 20 September 2023 14: 04
      -1
      Next? Yes, it seems that the Merkava is considered a third generation tank, but here they immediately jumped into the fifth.
  7. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 20 September 2023 08: 25
    0
    If it is true,
    Well, at least a third,
    One thing remains:
    Just lie down and die

    It would be more impressive:
    ...new MBT Merkava Barack Hussein Obama

    To be honest, we hardly saw the fourth generation, but here is the whole fifth...
    Naturally, detonating an ATGM at a distance is the most “delicious” highlight... Of course, it was in vain that Chubais himself stopped by on his way through - for any nanotechnology, he brought two backpacks... lol
    * * *
    We are waiting for practical results...
  8. Michael
    Michael 20 September 2023 08: 25
    +2
    The Israeli Ministry of Defense officially unveiled the new Merkava Barak MBT, which is positioned as a “fifth generation tank.”

    I wonder how they count generations of tanks?
    It’s clear with airplanes, the fifth generation is cruising supersonic and ESR at the level of a tennis ball, the sixth is a plus of unmanned aircraft.
    And with tanks, it turns out that the commander can fit a virtual reality helmet on the fifth generation right away? And if a commander wearing such a helmet is put in a T-62, then how to count?
    1. blackGRAIL
      blackGRAIL 20 September 2023 12: 20
      0
      A very voluminous detailed article about generations of tanks. There are three of them, the fourth generation is being formed now and its existence will depend on whether the new tanks will have fundamental differences from the 3rd generation or will follow the path (conditionally) stronger, more secure, faster.

      https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/1053091.html
  9. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 20 September 2023 08: 26
    +5
    It all sounds great, of course, the helmet, again, is a tanker’s dream... but in the device itself, as I understand it, there are no special changes. Rather, this is not a new generation, but an old one stuffed with new gadgets. Most likely, the 4th Merkava can be completely shamanized to this new peace
    1. point
      point 20 September 2023 21: 16
      +1
      You could imagine how much time was spent on this from setting the task to implementation and debugging. The mere fact that a unified communications system is used makes this platform fundamentally different. It’s like the appearance of a second signal system, and a tiger with fangs is cooler than tailless bastards!
      The automatic loader still does not allow some people to calm down, but where the automatic loader will give a higher speed of the second or third shot, a more knowledgeable MB will only need one. And there are simply no extra hands in the crew.
      For generations of Merkava, this is MB and 5e; other people's puffy cheeks are not that important. The main thing is not to give yourself a hard time and still build the production of communications equipment and element base. In the meantime, news from the fields about purchases from Ali radio stations causes shock and anger.
      1. shoemaker
        shoemaker 23 September 2023 20: 46
        -1
        Merkava 3 burned during the second intifada. And the Abrams burned in Yemen. Apparently, Merkava 4 is made of high-tech non-flammable materials ;-)
  10. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 September 2023 08: 30
    +5
    The Israelis are fighting the Merkava for their theater of operations. If you look closely, it is huge in size (in the video you can see how you have to twist in order to climb on it and it is cut off at that moment). There is a video where you can easily see the hull armor. Weak points - the roof engine compartment, driving front rollers and rear. They don’t show the turret armor to anyone. But it’s clear that the turret is one of the best in the world. There’s nothing supernatural in the tank, not a prodigy. The tank is tested in combat. The only rival to the Merkava is located in Egypt. But Israel and Egypt have peace, friendship, chewing gum. Only the underground tunnels of smugglers darken the relationship.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 20 September 2023 08: 52
      +2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The Israelis are fighting Merkava for their theater of operations.
      .

      By itself. Our tanks need to jump over rocks, unlike yours, who ride on black soil.
      1. Vitaly161
        Vitaly161 20 September 2023 09: 14
        +3
        chernozem is a more complex soil, which gives its own limitations and features of design and operation; the new 75-ton Merkava has nothing to do on chernozem, it will drown
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 20 September 2023 12: 34
          +4
          Quote: Vitaliy161
          A 75 ton Merkava has nothing to do on black soil, it will drown

          The 70-ton Challenger 2 with narrower tracks and lower ground clearance did not sink, but 65 ton Will Mkrkava sink? laughing
          That's the power of rumors. And no one is embarrassed that you (the Russian blogosphere) came up with this story yourself, and then you yourself believed in it, although none of you have ever seen this tank in real life. laughing
          1. alystan
            alystan 20 September 2023 13: 29
            +3
            The 70-ton Challenger-2 with narrower tracks and lower ground clearance did not sink, but the 65-ton Mkrkava will sink?

            Maybe we'll wait until it rains.
            And yes, on dry and especially hard ground they are both handsome. laughing
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 20 September 2023 17: 08
          -4
          Quote: Vitaliy161
          the new 75 ton Merkava has nothing to do on black soil - it will drown

          This is how they made it for the stones of the desert, where Moses’ brains hovered for 40 years... And they also dream of riding (like their fellow countrymen from Ukraine) on the cobblestones of Red Square...
          * * *
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          By itself. Our tanks need to jump over rocks, unlike yours, who ride on black soil.

          You have the F-35i for war from around the corner, the Merkava is capable of jumping over rocks, and you don’t join the nuclear club because of natural modesty...
          The Arab-Israeli war turned out well for you. It's not a cat's age...
          And you can show a tank capable of jumping over rocks to the residents of Palestine and display it on the Golan Heights... While the Kornet is sleeping...
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 20 September 2023 18: 48
            +3
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Quote: Vitaliy161
            the new 75 ton Merkava has nothing to do on black soil - it will drown

            This is how they made it for the stones of the desert, where Moses’ brains hovered for 40 years... And they also dream of riding (like their fellow countrymen from Ukraine) on the cobblestones of Red Square...
            * * *
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            By itself. Our tanks need to jump over rocks, unlike yours, who ride on black soil.

            You have the F-35i for war from around the corner, the Merkava is capable of jumping over rocks, and you don’t join the nuclear club because of natural modesty...
            The Arab-Israeli war turned out well for you. It's not a cat's age...
            And you can show a tank capable of jumping over rocks to the residents of Palestine and display it on the Golan Heights... While the Kornet is sleeping...

            Are you obsessed with Jews and Israel? Well, I'm not a doctor and I can't help.
          2. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 20 September 2023 19: 21
            +1
            Quote: ROSS 42
            dream of driving along the cobblestones of Red Square...

            Guests on May 9? Well, why not?

            Quote: ROSS 42
            It's not a cat's age...

            Unpleasant topic? laughing
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 September 2023 09: 16
        +5
        Aron, on the Kola Peninsula, 80 of them also drive on rocks, that’s the problem with the swamps. laughing
      3. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 20 September 2023 09: 32
        +4
        Our tanks need to jump over rocks, unlike yours,
        ...it’s great that you don’t have huge rivers and rivulets with bridges with a limit of no more than 5 tons...otherwise the pontoon park would move behind one merk..the unmasking is still the same
      4. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 September 2023 11: 11
        0
        Aron, it’s true that our tanks are beautiful - on the Kola Peninsula. These photos make my teeth ache from the cold, it’s clearly a deep minus - especially when jumping, the snow flies away in the cold.

        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 20 September 2023 11: 14
          0
          I won’t hide that the second photo is standard for all journalists visiting this military unit. A photo of the jump is required at all times of the year. lol
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 20 September 2023 12: 37
            +6
            Quote: tralflot1832
            A photo of the jump is a must, at all times of the year.

            All these “jumps” are essentially useless window dressing. If you want, you can make the anvil jump, but why??? request
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 20 September 2023 15: 57
              0
              I don’t think anyone will dispute that any tank can jump once. But what happened next with this tank after landing?
              Quote: And Us Rat
              All these “jumps” are essentially useless window dressing.
              Jumps show the high energy consumption of the suspension, demonstrating that the tank can maintain high speed on rough terrain.
              1. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 20 September 2023 19: 24
                +1
                Quote: Bad_gr
                But what happened next with this tank after landing?

                What will happen to him? I went on to serve.

                Quote: Bad_gr
                Jumps show the high energy consumption of the suspension, demonstrating that the tank can maintain high speed on rough terrain.

                It's like spoiling the air in an elevator to prove good bowel function. laughing
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 20 September 2023 20: 16
          +3
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Aron, it’s true that our tanks are beautiful - on the Kola Peninsula. These photos make my teeth ache from the cold, it’s clearly a deep minus - especially when jumping, the snow flies away in the cold.


          We can do this too.
          1. Ivan F
            Ivan F 20 September 2023 22: 14
            +2
            We can do this too fellow can you do that? laughing
  11. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 20 September 2023 08: 34
    0
    wow... as the generations progress in the empire of lies, everything is turned upside down... that is, the next generation is old and new... and so on... they added more heels to their 70 tons... and even the front end is like that and remained chipped due to hatches and other cooling systems that specifically weakened the structure.....and yes...with the engine running, shooting on course remained impossible..in short...fifth, fifth, period
  12. Rom8681
    Rom8681 20 September 2023 08: 34
    -3
    Quote from Orange Bigg
    The tank is serviceable, but by what criteria did they decide to classify it as a 5th generation tank? Apparently the same uninhabited turret does not exist. Just another modernization of a time-tested platform.

    An uninhabited tower, is this a criterion for the fifth generation?
    Ours are sawing armature, soon it will be three decades and they still can’t do anything, but we have the criteria.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 20 September 2023 09: 07
      -2
      An uninhabited tower, is this a criterion for the fifth generation?
      ...one of the criteria that entails a bunch of goodies....the volume of the fighting compartment is reduced, which leads to a smaller armored area, and the freed up area goes to places where they are lightly armored (stern, top) without changing the mass..which has a beneficial effect on an important parameter...specific load on the ground...well, something like this...but the fact that the helmet is screwed on is all-transparent and that’s it...that’s nothing...you can do the T-34...in the fifth you can build a generation if you take a 125 smoothbore and play around with pure Invars, and even screw a 300-carat diamond onto the levers for a high price...what kind of generation will it be....10-100 e
  13. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 20 September 2023 08: 46
    +4
    I’ve never been a tanker, I’m a doctor, and I’ve been retired for a long time, but it’s either a pain in the ass or a villainous fate that constantly drives me to places where there are a lot of NEW and even EXPERIMENTAL weapons. I happened to see the tank in question. I’ll note right away that conventionally the fifth generation is called ONLY JOURNALISTS, tank crews simply say NEW. But here’s what caught my eye - when the sun shines down the barrel of the tank and into my back, the Armata all sparkles like a Christmas tree, but this Lightning does not give a single glare - all the glass, of which there are many, are either recessed into the armor or equipped with hoods far from made of tin. This is just my subjective observation. And how good it is - well, time will tell, although it seems to me that for the tasks for which it was made, it is the best.
  14. tchoni
    tchoni 20 September 2023 08: 50
    +3
    The new product immediately goes to the troops, and not to the parade) Well done, sons of Israel, there is nothing to say... All that remains is to envy and applaud while standing.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 20 September 2023 09: 47
      -2
      The new product goes directly to the troops, and not to the parade
      ...military parades are held only here...this is a tradition..the empire of lies does not have military parades...and lately it’s been like that at all...if there’s a parade, it’s only roosters and cocks....
  15. Egor Adashev
    Egor Adashev 20 September 2023 08: 55
    -1
    [media=Israel presented the Merkava Barak MBT] is the first “a” clearly superfluous or is it in honor of Obama Husseinovich? And if on the topic, judging from the article, the difference is all in the sensors, but given the current conditions, wouldn’t it be better to hang them on a drone, because when fired by a conventional machine gun, it’s a khan?
  16. 501 Legion
    501 Legion 20 September 2023 08: 59
    -3
    so-so presentation, the new Abrams is more similar to the 5th generation than the Merkava
  17. digger
    digger 20 September 2023 09: 12
    -3
    Was he named after the farm laborer Abram (bobama)?
    1. Leader_Barmaleev
      Leader_Barmaleev 20 September 2023 10: 48
      +4
      בָּרָק - lightning. Pronounced barak. I wonder why I feel so disgusted when a character appears on a forum for smart people whose intelligence, in principle, does not extend beyond the distortion of surnames and names? Or am I the only one?
      1. Ivan F
        Ivan F 20 September 2023 22: 39
        -1
        It's not about intelligence, it's about sound. In Malaysia there was (or is) a car model - Proton Perdana (formerly Mitsubishi). Perdana is translated from Malay as “excellent”. But this model, unlike any other Personas, somehow didn’t work out for us. Everything is fine, but it hurts my ears. And there are a lot of such cases with language “gags”... But linguists and linguists, far from all. And a little humor won't do anything terrible. wink
  18. Kolin
    Kolin 20 September 2023 09: 21
    -3
    Is the armor made of cardboard like on the previous “Chariots”?
  19. bear cub
    bear cub 20 September 2023 09: 54
    0
    Aron, despite the sarcastic comments below, I congratulate you on a good tank. I have always liked this design, and the desire for maximum crew safety is commendable; the flying turrets of our tanks are a complete contradiction of these assumptions. I understand people’s disappointment, I feel it too when they showed me the beautiful T-14 at the parade and now I watch videos of tankers receiving T-55s as replacements.
  20. cmax
    cmax 20 September 2023 09: 58
    +1
    All innovations that allow the crew and tank to survive on the battlefield undamaged for longer will be good. I wish the same for Russian tank crews.
  21. Wildcat
    Wildcat 20 September 2023 11: 41
    0
    Strange.
    If the management “loves”/sends into retirement for every tank that dies, then the tanks and “naked, without remote protection” do not drive and KAZ is installed on them. And a hatch in the stern so that “if anything happens” you don’t have to do a somersault from the turret under enemy fire. And a machine gun on the turret with remote control. And the stretcher is foldable at the back, so that “if something happens” you won’t have to drag it over your head. And there is a connection, not in the sense of “provided for”, but also “not open”, but such that the control center transmits. And there’s even some kind of rough coating on the armor so that the tanker doesn’t hit...... his head (fell/slipped).

    As AlexTV once wisely noted: "It is difficult to understand the direction of thought of our military leadership. The fact is that in the "terribly civilized world", in the form of the United States, Germany, France, Israel and others, dynamic protection on tanks is used either as a built-in "layer cake" of the main armor, or as an auxiliary to protect weakened projections. But on light armored vehicles on remote sensing now there is a craze, up to the obligatory paraphernalia of anti-cumulative protection.
    USA - BMP "Bradley", armored personnel carrier "Stryker", armored personnel carrier M113. Germany - BMP "Puma". England - BMP "Warrior". There are DZ systems for protecting light armored vehicles in Italy, France, Israel, Spain, Poland, and so on in the depths of democracy.
    Yes, in the LGBT camps there are PDs for LGBT people. But we don't. Probably because we are not LGBT. Other, logical reasons, somehow not visible.
    ...
    Of course, I am not in a claim to manufacturers, they "set" exactly what they are told and paid for.
    So the question is:
    Who needs to come to Uralvagonzavod so that thoughtful (!) KDZ sets are installed on the T-72 (90)?
    But to assume who needs to come to other factories and armored personnel carriers in order for the KDZ to appear on the BMP-2 and BTR-80, even...
    I can not…
    "
    1. shoemaker
      shoemaker 23 September 2023 20: 59
      0
      How will dynamic protection help against a Lancet strike in the MTO?
  22. lukash66
    lukash66 20 September 2023 19: 26
    -1
    The cornet is in his favor and you are welcome to the dump.
  23. Clone
    Clone 20 September 2023 20: 36
    -2
    Charging? And the suspension is on springs? Fifth generation tank? However, there is an obvious discrepancy...
  24. cold wind
    cold wind 20 September 2023 20: 45
    +1
    What a pity that everything is discussed except the tank itself. And this is an event in world tank building. Similar technologies are not yet available in production tanks of other countries. Truly a breakthrough.
  25. Rasp
    Rasp 21 September 2023 17: 02
    0
    As far as I remember, the firing range of the T72 is 5 km, the Merkava crew in their miracle helmet will very clearly understand that they are in the affected area, and their high-tech tank shoots at four
  26. Foma Kinyaev
    Foma Kinyaev 21 September 2023 17: 12
    -2
    Quote: tchoni
    Don’t forget that same helmet... So, through the armor it’s like an x-ray and in the multispectrum.

    There, I think the helmet receives a video signal from external sources - there are just a lot of cameras, maybe scanning goes 360 degrees, with a command if a moving object is detected or stored in the computer’s memory. I think it’s still a good thing, drones can certainly detect at a long distance. You by the way Don’t pay attention to the idiots, they all clean their guns with bricks, they’re mental retards.
  27. acetophenone
    acetophenone 21 September 2023 17: 55
    0
    Quote: Rasp
    As far as I remember, the firing range of the T72 is 5 km,

    So I watched these same tank biathlons, and now I understand that the firing range is one number, but the hitting range is completely different. There are the best crews for one and a half kilometers not only everything they hit the tank's overall target.
    1. BorzRio
      BorzRio 21 September 2023 22: 08
      -2
      It is many times more difficult for even an experienced crew to hit a tank target at 72 km with a T-3B2 than for an experienced crew of the Leopard 2 latest versions.
  28. cast iron
    cast iron 21 September 2023 20: 50
    0
    The introduction of a VR helmet with a combat automated fire control system in tanks has been overdue for 10 years.
  29. BorzRio
    BorzRio 21 September 2023 22: 05
    -2
    People are primarily engaged in the development and implementation of advanced weapons for their country. And then there is a result. And in seven well-known countries they are engaged in cutting and spending the budget, fake reports and collecting positions and stars on uniform. The result is shame and failure in the Northern Military District and beyond. The fish rots from the head. All our problems are at the very top. Two decades of lies and embezzlement. As a result, the ceremonial Almaty and other fabulous blizzard, and the army on the T-72 and BMP-2.