Why the restoration of the USSR, perhaps partial, is still inevitable

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Why the restoration of the USSR, perhaps partial, is still inevitable


“We are forever what we are destined to be in the world.
Drive nature through the door: it will fly in through the window.”

N.M. Karamzin

“The ideas of economists and political thinkers are
and when they are right and when they are wrong -
are much more important than is commonly thought.
In reality, they are the only ones who rule the world.”

John Maynard Keynes

Why is the USSR the highest point of world civilization and the Russian world?


32 years ago, the greatest state of all times, countries and peoples was dismantled, a power whose existence for 70 long years was an absolute miracle, for everything in it was contrary to human lust and greed: and could exist only thanks to a higher providence.

The USSR had the highest rates of economic development in the world, was the second economy in the world (1990): US GDP - $5, USSR - $233. The USSR economy accounted for about 300,00% of world industrial production. The average growth rate of the economy of the Russian Federation within the USSR from 2–659 was 500,00% (!), and the average growth rate of the Russian economy from 20 to 1950 was less than 1990% (!).




While the entire Western world was suffocating in the grip of the Great Depression, the growth rate of the USSR was simply fantastic - 13–14%. The first five-year plans are the greatest in the world stories economic miracle.

At the same time, the population of Russia in the penultimate decades before the “reforms” (as part of the USSR) grew at a rate of about 8,79 million people every 10 years!

As Isaac Deutscher, a British historian, wrote in 1956:

“The essence of Stalin’s truly historical achievements is that he took Russia with a plow and left it with nuclear reactors. He raised Russia to the level of the second industrialized country in the world.”


The peaceful competition of socialism and capitalism ultimately led to the improvement of capitalism - in developed capitalist countries the state began to intervene in the economy, normal labor and pension legislation was adopted, income equalization was carried out, and a middle class appeared. The model of a socially oriented market economy in Germany, so attractive in comparison with the liberal model of the USA: it is a synthesis of both systems.

As the American researcher L. Kaplan believed: Stalin is the man who saved capitalism. The world sorely lacks multipolarity and the presence of an alternative ideology.

The main thing in the USSR is to build a fair society


In the USSR, money for people, paradoxically, was not the main goal - the main goal was the idea of ​​​​building a fair society. Although the idea of ​​communism as a kind of “earthly paradise” turned out to be a dead end, the main goal of the existence of the USSR was achieved.

As J.M. Keynes, who advised the Soviet government, wrote about the USSR:

“in... Russia... the career of a “money making” person is simply impossible... just like the career of a burglar or the desire to learn forgery and theft.”

Yes, people did not live richly. Now we have everything, but not everyone has enough money. Then it was the other way around - there was money, but there were not enough goods. In the USSR there was a shortage (largely artificially created) of good clothes and shoes, household appliances, furniture, and cars. And all this was expensive.

But that was not the main thing. There were significant advantages. Education, including higher education (!), housing, and medicine were free. There were discounted or free holiday packages from the trade union. Paid housing (HCS) was much more affordable compared to the current mortgage, and rates for rent and electricity were meager. All this was ensured for the simple reason that the bulk of consumed products were produced within the country, and all profits received in the economy were spent in the interests of the entire society: everything according to K. Marx.

Yes, there were mistakes and excesses: atheism, repression. But in the late USSR under Brezhnev, although there was a fight against dissent, everything was relatively quiet: there were no repressions, camps or sharashkas.


Why were there not enough goods?


They say that we fed half the world - it’s true, the assistance to developing countries and Eastern Europe was enormous, we inherited from the USSR the enormous debts of our “friends” - $140 billion in 1991, which are now being successfully “forgiven”.

So why couldn’t the USSR fill the store shelves?

During perestroika, it is clear that the deficit was created artificially in order to cause discontent among the people. And in the era of “stagnation”? There were good goods, but they were expensive: a color TV cost about 700 rubles with an average salary of 190 rubles, imported shoes cost 80–100 rubles.

Tanks and guns - of course, sacred. But it was possible to reduce the number of research institutes and build more factories for the production of clothes and equipment, which is where the new China began its reforms? It could be. There are three explanations: the country was strong, the people were stoic, not accustomed to a beautiful life. The second is the leadership mentality. Third, even then things were heading towards collapse. But the USSR was only (!) 10–15 years short of the time when China flooded the whole world with these goods at affordable prices.

USSR culture



The USSR was the only state in the world with a Christian culture, but, alas, with an atheistic filling. Beautiful and pure music, cinema, the best education in the world. The people were healthier, the majority started families, gave birth to children... When you listen and see all this, you think, is this another planet? But we lived there and remember everything.

Now: music and cinema, shows, concerts, in which the main thing is human passions. However, Russian cinema is being revived, including in the wake of nostalgia for the USSR: these are the films “Legend-17”, “Gagarin - the first in space”, “T-34”, “Upward Movement”, “Champion”, “White Snow” and etc.

Socialism elevated man, while capitalism tries to turn him into an unthinking consumer, playing on his base sides. When we opened the country to Western influences in 1985, we at the same time let in a lot of evil spirits, which have done their job during all this time.

If you were brought up on films about the Civil War, the Great Patriotic War, you have a different morality and life position. That is why, after the announcement of mobilization, about 1 million young people left for the Northern Military District. Someone did a great job!

Nostalgia for the USSR


But everything is learned by comparison. Like Eastern Europe, our people eventually became disillusioned with the free market according to American patterns. Stalin's ratings are growing, including among young people, and in 2017 he topped the list of the greatest people of our time.

According to opinion polls (September 2022), almost two-thirds of Russians (62%) sympathize with socialism, and this is the maximum in the entire history of the survey. According to information received by VTsIOM at the end of 2022: almost 50% of Russians want the restoration of the USSR, and 58% of citizens regret its collapse.

According to monitoring data from the Institute of Psychology of the Russian Academy of Sciences: about 80% of the population of the Russian Federation give a negative assessment to the scenario of “inertial” economic development, which, in their opinion, leads the country to a dead end. Despite the well-known attitude of the Church towards the USSR, “Soviet cinema” is shown on church channels. And this is also a sign.

Now 60% of East Germans are nostalgic for socialism, and 40% of young people also think extremely positively about the GDR. 54% of Czechs and 70% of Slovaks were also disillusioned with “light” capitalism.

Dismantling the USSR: the plan of the elites



The elites of the USSR during its heyday were simply puritans compared to those of today. A personal car, rations and dachas, modest even in modern times - how is this possible? And Stalin, who led the most modest lifestyle? Low bow to these people for their non-acquisitiveness.

But during perestroika everything changed. The elites of that time, observing the beauty and luxury of the foreign elites, gained a new consciousness - and tired of being simply servants of the people, they decided to restore the patrimonial model of government. The plans of the elites and the West coincided - and the track was brilliantly implemented.

Caring American political strategists have implanted their idea into the minds of every nation. Khokhlam - to become France, Russia - to live like in the West. Reformatting the consciousness of an entire people is not an easy task, but it can be done.


The emerging bourgeois elite of the USSR set the goal of privatizing the country as their personal property, getting rid of the bulk of social obligations and entering the world market with the hope of making a profit from trade. The USSR was dismantled, its geopolitical space was destroyed, the country went bankrupt, industry and science were liquidated, the military machine was shrinking, while, perhaps, commitments were made to not annex new territories and focus on importing finished products.

On the part of the West, there were verbal agreements not to expand NATO to the east, which were immediately violated. The elites needed nightclubs, restaurants, entertainment, and luxury. Events 1985–1999 - bourgeois revenge of 1917, which clearly showed what would have happened to the country if the Provisional Government had remained in power then.

Colossal inequality has appeared in Russia, gentlemen, commoners and poor people have re-emerged. And new images of the times - the unemployed, the homeless, single men and childless families.


Why did the USA destroy the USSR?


The United States wanted to remove its main strategic competitor, break it into pieces, and, in defiance of the USSR, turn China into an industrial workshop, and us into a raw materials mine: these goals were achieved.

Z. Brzezinski:

“We destroyed the Soviet Union, we will destroy Russia too. You have no chance."

“If the Russians are so stupid that they demand the restoration of their empire, they will run into such conflicts that Chechnya and Afghanistan will seem like a picnic to them.”

Russia brings to the world alternative cultural, religious (Catholicism and Protestantism, from the point of view of Orthodoxy, have fallen into heresy) and economic values ​​(a powerful state, collectivism and solidarity). Although in the 90s we adopted Western liberal ideology (in the American version), many remnants of the past exist in our country as part of our national culture and traditions. And against the backdrop of the Northern Military District, we again switched to anti-Western rhetoric.

Russia is the largest state in the world by territory, the richest in all types of material resources. Our country has historically helped various countries that suffered from aggression, in particular from Turkey and Germany, and after 1945 it provided enormous assistance and, in fact, non-profit activities for the development of third world countries.

And most importantly, Russia is the main bearer of the Orthodox faith and, therefore, the main opponent of the measures of the world government, which aims to carry out an anti-Christian revolution, destroying and destroying Christianity in Europe and the USA, planting all kinds of perverted cults of “minorities” and “same-sex” marriages. And in the future, this leadership role of Russia will only strengthen as our state revives.

On this topic, excerpts from a letter from the famous Catholic Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano to Donald Trump (2020):

“...the fate of the entire world is threatened by a global conspiracy against God and humanity... Every day we feel an increase in attacks from those who want to destroy the very foundations of society: the natural family, respect for human life, love of country, freedom of education and business. We see how heads of nations and religious leaders condone this suicide of Western culture and its Christian soul...
A global plan called the “Great Reset” is being implemented. Its architect is the global elite, which wants to subjugate all of humanity..."

Spiritually, the conflict with the West goes back to the conflict between Byzantium and the Western Roman Empire (Moscow - Third Rome), and then between Catholicism (Protestantism) and Orthodoxy, but in reality it has broader boundaries.

The end of history and the “messianic” role of the United States


The economic philosophy of the West is global dominance. But that's not all. The West also has a specific spiritual – messianic goal: “the chosen nation – the world leader – the master of the planet.”

The famous philosopher Francis Fukuyama, in his book “The End of History and the Last Man” (1992), argued after the dismantling of the USSR the final victory of the concept of liberal democracy and capitalism:

“This triumph of the West, the triumph of the Western idea, is manifested primarily in the complete depletion of once viable alternatives to Western liberalism...
What we are seeing now is... not just the end of the Cold War... but the end of history as such... it is the final point of the ideological evolution of humanity and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of government in human society.”


The end of history means that all countries will enter the world system controlled by the West, i.e. that very “world government” may actually arise. At the same time, the events of the Russian Spring of 2014 show that the author of this statement was clearly in a hurry. The historical process is continuous.

Here are a few quotes from the book by A. M. Shlesinger (adviser to E. Kennedy) “Cycles of American History”:

“The newfound independence gave new status to the theory of America as a “chosen nation” (Berkovich) or a “redeemer nation” (E. L. Tuveson), entrusted by the Almighty with the task of bringing His light to a sin-ridden world.”

“We Americans,” wrote young Herman Melville, “are a special, chosen people, we are the Israel of our time; we are bringing the ark of freedom to the world...
God has ordained and humanity expects us to accomplish something great; and we feel this greatness in our souls. The rest of the nations must soon be behind us..."

Amazing immodesty (!), especially against the backdrop of numerous US war crimes: Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine.

But Ivan the Terrible believed that Russia was not only the Third Rome, but spiritually the New Israel. From a theological point of view, this statement is based on the correct premise that the New Israel is the entire Christian civilization, and since Catholicism and Protestantism are heresies, it means that Russia, as the custodian of the true faith, is the basis of the New Israel.

The clash between Russia and the West: war of civilizations – religious war



And as Archpriest Andrei Tkachev writes:

“We are the New Israel, called to a special historical mission and, like ancient times, full inside of disoriented commoners and corrupted leaders. And against us are the modern descendants of Babylon, Egypt and Rome, with their idols, sacrifices and debauchery; maddened by stolen wealth and pride, plus confident in their impunity. This is a religious war, if anyone else is so stupid that they didn’t understand this.”

So Russia is the most powerful obstacle to the world domination of the Anglo-Saxon nation (and the “shadow government”), including its claims to a messianic position, and it is Russia that does not allow the Anglo-Saxons to fully feel their superiority.

Both Europe and the USA are actually gradually destroying Christianity. Churches in the EU are emptying and are being given over to other needs. The USA is a hotbed of global totalitarian sectarianism. A world where the main thing is minorities, same-sex marriages and other perversions is a world of degeneration; it is barren in the literal and spiritual sense. Europe is degenerating, it is being filled by residents of the south.

But the signs of the times - SVO, sanctions, the approach of a new world war - indicate that fate has decided to restore the status quo necessary for the balance of the world, for the end of Russia is the end of all humanity (according to Fukuyama - the end of history).

The current war in Ukraine and the possibility of direct conflict with the West is a religious war, a war of “civilizations.” A war that has been going on for 2000 years between the formations of the “Old” and “New Testaments”. That is why in Ukraine they are destroying the Orthodox Church, destroying the Lavra and, wherever possible, punishing Russians and persecuting them for the Russian language, erasing traces and hating the USSR, even getting rid of the Russian font.

And in Ukraine, stupefied Ukrainians are driven to banal slaughter. The world government is destroying Russians in Russia economically, in Ukraine – physically. Then it will try to assimilate and destroy the Orthodox Church. And this is the ultimate goal of this entire campaign, to connect the world into a single whole and do whatever you want with it.

As Fox News host Tucker Carlson said about the causes of the war in response to Congressman Raskin:

“Russia is an Orthodox country professing traditional values. That is why it must be destroyed, no matter what price the United States pays for it.

NATO expansion has no end: Finland, Sweden, now Armenia? When will we finally push through? Yes, Donbass and other new territories: the process has begun.

During the Great Patriotic War, as now, the whole of Europe also fought against us - because this is a civilizational conflict. The Fuhrer, an adherent of the “new paganism,” wanted to destroy communism and put everything conquered under total control, as would be done in the last, apocalyptic times. That is why the United States actively helped Hitler before the war, and after it sheltered some of the former fascists in America. And now, Europe, having forgotten that Russia is its benefactor, which saved the world from yet another global dictator, is again, like 80 years ago, fighting on the side of world evil.

Nothing has changed: since the time of Alexander Nevsky, the West has been fighting with Russia - as the center of another religion and alternative values ​​(civilizational conflict), and this war will not end until the end of time. No compromises, no negotiations with the West are possible and will have no result.

The only possibility is fear of our power and fear of retribution. And if not for the collapse of the USSR, the current war between Russians and Ukrainians would have been impossible.

Liberal Russia: crisis of the civilizational matrix



We have achievements - the development of the road network, large cities, active construction of housing, development of resorts, Crimea, and agriculture. The nuclear industry and the military-industrial complex, the main heirs of the USSR, show the highest degree of international competitiveness of our country.

We could easily produce electronics, cars and household appliances, chips and processors. But in the model that the West imposed on us in the 90s and which our elites chose, we are focused on the supply of raw materials and consume a huge amount of imports. In accordance with Gaidar’s specific plan: “Who needs your machines?! And if you need it, we will buy everything abroad!”

That’s why the bulk of our planes and cars were imported, and now we bite ourselves, but continue to buy everything from China. And therefore, according to the latest calculations by Moscow State University specialists (and not only them), in Russia there are actually about 60% of the poor population (for comparison, Rosstat data is 13,5%). Our economy does not produce enough surplus value.

The problem of today's Russia is that a huge part of the profits received is appropriated by the oligarchy, sucked out of the economy by banks and monopolies and ultimately taken out of the country, leaving no trace in it. The population is clearly not starving, although for the bulk, life is survival; but consumption is minimal, as is investment in the country. Better than in Tsarist Russia, but the model is the same: oligarchic capitalism. This is a model of the economy where everyone tries to devour the other, and in the end the economy itself, like a snake, devours itself by the tail.

But if in 1997 there were only 6 dollar billionaires in the Russian Federation, then, according to data for 2022, there are already 110 of them, including 22 more over the past year.

At the end of 2022, the excess of Russia's GDP level over the 1991 figure was only 30%! The average annual dynamics of Russia's GDP growth during the liberal period was less than 1% - this is an extremely low rate of development. Over the same period, China's GDP grew 14,5 times (!), and world GDP - 2,5 times.

The population of the RSFSR in 1992 was 148,51 million people; as of January 01.01.2023, 146,44, the population of the Russian Federation was 31 million people. In total, over 2,067 years of reforms, the country’s population has not grown, even despite the annexation of Crimea, the total decline is 1990 million people. Since 23, we have lost XNUMX thousand settlements. There is no point in providing any other data.

There is a civilizational crisis: the current system of liberal capitalism contradicts not only the interests of development, but also the very existence of our country.

After the Northern Military District there are changes - import substitution has begun, foreign companies have partially left, the economy is growing. But this is again within the framework of the “invisible hand of the market” policy. But even now we are producing Chinese cars using the revived Moskvich and are trying to solve the problems through “parallel imports”. Instead of European foreign cars, the market is flooded with Chinese cars.

We no longer need the hand of the market and the fifth column: Russia needs the strong hand of the Russian national state.

Russia as the beginning of a new USSR



Why is this so? We are the main successors and the heart of the USSR. Russia together with Crimea is 76,5% of the territory of the Soviet Union. And in 2022, we again annexed the territories of the former USSR, violating the unspoken pact of the liberal doctrine.

The USSR is alive in our minds and in our hearts - according to sociologists (March 2020), 75% of Russians believe that the Secular Era was the best time in the country's history.
But we are the USSR! Our anthem is written to the music of the USSR anthem, and this is not at all accidental. This is Soviet music and Soviet cinema, which is still with us.
The creators of managed democracy received their first crushing defeat: all their massive propaganda was a crushing fiasco.

The place where the USSR still exists is the VDNKh exhibition, where many pavilions have been preserved, including the USSR, RSFSR, Belarus, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, and the iconic monument to the Worker and the Collective Farm Woman.

We are still accompanied by the remnants of social benefits, which will never exist in America (!) and the elimination of which many liberals dream of - free medical care, free kindergartens, partially higher education (the so-called “budget”) - all this is very expensive in the USA - and even renovation programs in which people are given free new housing in exchange for their old one. Maternity capital and new payments for children are also essentially measures of the socialist plan.

And even now there are still red stars on the Kremlin towers, and calls to change them to double-headed eagles are not supported by the country’s leadership. This is the story of the Great Victory of 1945, this is Stalin, Zhukov, Rokossovsky, Korolev, Kurchatov, Tupolev and Gagarin. These are street names.

This is the most powerful nuclear, space and military industry in the world. These are Mig-29 and Su-27 aircraft, T-90, Grad, Buki tanks, TU-160 bombers - as before, our formidable weapon; a nuclear shield, without which we would be instantly crushed, they protect us in the Soviet way. This is one of the best education systems and scientific schools in the world, which has survived despite its deliberate destruction in the 90s.

But these are also problems - millions of migrants from the former USSR republics working in Russia.

Why do liberals hate and fear the USSR?


The USSR is hated by liberal circles - the fifth column, big capital, they are afraid of another matrix - an alternative to the market without brakes, which gives them unlimited power. They are afraid of our victory in the Northern Military District, delaying military action, because the annexation of new lands is a step on the way to the USSR. Hence the endless cries and lamentations of both the West and Ukraine about returning to the 1991 borders.

As Zbigniew Brzezinski correctly believed:

“Russia can be either an empire or a democracy, but not both at the same time...
Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire, but with Ukraine... Russia automatically turns into an empire.”

(in his 1994 article “Premature Partnership”).

Here is the opinion of former Prime Minister of England Johnson:

“If Russia wins militarily in Ukraine and achieves political success in terms of Vladimir Putin’s expectations, it will be a real disaster for the entire West in general and for the American leadership in particular.”

The Russian Spring of 2014 is an attempt to restore the Russian world, and the Minsk agreements are essentially an analogue of the Belovezh agreements.

For liberals, new territories are a final break with the West for several decades, and perhaps forever, a farewell to dreams of lifting sanctions. And this is the beginning of the end of their power, because sooner or later nationalization and new industrialization, a technical revolution will come, which will throw the resource elites and the oligarchy to the sidelines of history.

The restoration of the Russian Empire is inevitable



History repeats itself. The path from Alexander's reforms to 1917, about 60 years long, is almost a complete analogue of the reforms begun in 1985, which is now 38 years old. The first round of capitalist modernization ended with an aggravation of the socio-economic, cultural and religious situation in the country, leading to a social explosion and the revolution of 1917.

There was the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. The empire collapsed. But history laughed at the plans of the West - after Stalin’s modernization, a powerful anti-Western project emerged. Stalin recreated the empire, the USSR many times surpassed Tsarist Russia in military power and was able to destroy fascist Germany, raised with the participation of the United States. This was a historical mission of the USSR; for Tsarist Russia it would have been impossible. This was also one of the underlying reasons for the events of 1917.

The second stage began with the collapse of the USSR (empire) and ended with the beginning of the Northern Military District, which is the prologue to the restoration of the empire, but the liberal structure still leads the country to extinction.

In the context of a growing conflict with the West, Russia needs to secure its borders as much as possible and attract additional resources. The only way is the consolidation of the lands of the Russian world. SVO, sanctions, approaching war with the West: all these are signs of the times, indicating the need to restore the empire.

Fate itself decided to return Russia to its historical, messianic role as a Western counterweight. The verdict on the liberal system has been pronounced, and its execution is underway.

What can be used from the legacy of the USSR?


The planned system, social guarantees, free housing for all families with children, the financial system of the USSR, in which there was no link to the dollar and the issue was carried out for the needs of planned investments, strict currency control and the suppression of any methods of cashing out and exporting capital, the planned system, five-year plans, the best education system in the world, the experience of Soviet science, culture, the industrial and technical revolution, continuous progress and creation. Spirituality, morality, patriotism.

A return to the past is pointless, but according to the laws of dialectics (the negation of the negation), the most advanced economy in the world will be built in Russia, combining the features of socialism and a market economy, something close to the social market economy of Germany.

We are too far behind during the time when we “bought everything imported.” We need, like the USSR in the first five-year plans, a new big leap, and it will definitely come - there is no other way. And no one and nothing will stop us.

Finale


The weakening of Russia during the liberal period is temporary. Soon, having cleared itself of it, Russia will rise up, and its spiritual and national revival will begin. And this process has already been going on since 2014 (100 years since the beginning of the First World War). Already now we could collect even more of our lands, but we are not doing this because of our dependence on the West.

After the collapse of the USSR, the Russian question arose: millions of our compatriots found themselves in conditions of persecution of Russian culture (the Baltic states, Ukraine, Central Asia).

We have no other way to solve the problem of the Northern Military District, except for the annexation of Ukraine, perhaps, except for its westernmost edge. We could very well unite with Belarus, joining Transnistria and Ossetia. The people of Moldova are tired of the pro-Western government.

The core of the revived Union will be the ancestral lands of the Russian World. Even though it seems very unlikely right now, consolidation will happen. We have excellent relations with Uzbekistan. In Europe, things are quite positive with Serbia and Hungary.

To gather lands and consolidate the Russian world, we need economic and moral advantage. Russia will have to build a new, powerful economy, and then all our former friends will want to be friends with us again.
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  1. -18
    24 September 2023 03: 58
    When the author writes about “free” housing, kindergartens and other medicine, he is, to put it mildly, disingenuous. There is very little free stuff in the world, and someone pays the same builder or teacher. Who exactly? In this case, she is paid by the same worker from whom part of the surplus value he produced was forcibly confiscated and, without his consent, transferred to these needs.
    1. +23
      24 September 2023 04: 28
      Thus, EVERYONE pays for medicine, just like the army. But the patient was treated for free. The budgetary share of medicine in the USSR was somewhat larger than the modern one, but the budget was also several times larger. Since the state, as the owner, did not receive taxes, but all the profits...

      By the way, “during the time” of my youth, I had my teeth treated at home medicine.... She was there too. Just like I bought meat for 6 rubles at the collective farm market. It was there too.

      In essence, only labor needs to be paid. Something they didn’t do for months in the 90s.

      And here a characteristic feature of our layman appeared. No one would work “for nothing” under Soviet rule. Because she belongs. And under capitalism - steel. The capitalist is not his own. He can hit you in the snout with a boot, break a pendal and throw you out into the street.

      He is such a people - he loves them to the point of passion, when a boot hits him in the face..... It hurts, but it’s strong!!

      The USSR deficit at the beginning of 1992 disappeared within about a week. "Gaidar saved the country from famine." A miracle happened, similar to the biblical “there was nothing and suddenly everything is.”

      But the people perceived this as the norm: “after all, under the owners it cannot be otherwise”...
      1. +12
        24 September 2023 06: 08
        almost two-thirds of Russians (62%) sympathize with socialism, and this is the maximum in the entire history of the survey
        Fed up with capitalism! recourse
        1. +7
          24 September 2023 08: 18
          All power to the Soviets!

          Quote from Uncle Lee
          Fed up with capitalism!

          You won't know the price of Heaven without visiting Hell.
          1. +12
            24 September 2023 13: 13
            Quote: Boris55
            You won't know the price of Heaven without visiting Hell.
          2. +2
            24 September 2023 13: 31
            Of course, in the Hell of today! am Yes Of course, the clever phrase does not coincide with the opinion of VO bully
      2. -21
        24 September 2023 12: 12
        Thus, EVERYONE pays for medicine, just like the army. But the patient was treated for free. The budgetary share of medicine in the USSR was somewhat larger than the modern one, but the budget was also several times larger. Since the state, as the owner, did not receive taxes, but all the profits...

        Why stop at medicine? Let's have EVERYONE pay for EVERYTHING.
        You come to a store like this, take as much vodka and sausage as you need. For free. Shmotje again, iPhone, Chinese SUV.

        If you end up in the hospital with cirrhosis, your loved one will be treated for free. Even for the fourth time. Like now, basically. wink

        The USSR collapsed because only medicine and education were transferred to communism, and the rest was forgotten. They left a bad example. laughing
        1. +18
          24 September 2023 18: 21
          Quote: Arzt
          The USSR collapsed because only medicine and education were transferred to communism, and the rest was forgotten. They left a bad example.

          There is no nostalgia for all the details in the USSR; there was a lot of bad things. Yes it was . But there is something important about which the melancholy gnaws. This is the feeling of a huge, strong, powerful country. where all peoples lived in peace, where any nationalism was crushed in the bud. Where no one went hungry. Where everyone had shelter and work. Where the education of the people, their health, and the security of the country came first. Where a person of any nationality could come to any city in the country and feel like a human being. From Chop in Transcarpathian Rus', Vilnius in Lithuania, Tashkent in Central Asia, we were all citizens of a great country. And this is the most important thing.
    2. -16
      24 September 2023 11: 52
      When the author writes about “free” housing, kindergartens and other medicine, he is, to put it mildly, disingenuous. There is very little free stuff in the world, and someone pays the same builder or teacher. Who exactly? In this case, she is paid by the same worker from whom part of the surplus value he produced was forcibly confiscated and, without his consent, transferred to these needs.

      That's right. This is one of the most clever tricks of the socialists.
      Work is work and it always has its price. Free cheese - it's in a mousetrap. wink
    3. +3
      24 September 2023 15: 56
      Well then, let this notorious worker look after his child himself. Since this work, although it does not create surplus value, is still important. Or did they pay in the USSR without taking it out of your “worker’s” pocket?
      1. -8
        24 September 2023 17: 30
        Well then, let this notorious worker look after his child himself. Since this work, although it does not create surplus value, is still important. Or did they pay in the USSR without taking it out of your “worker’s” pocket?

        Why yourself? There is a kindergarten for this. Paid only. wink
        So let the worker choose a kindergarten from his FULL salary. Or even a governess. laughing
        Somehow children grew up in capitalism. wink
      2. +2
        25 September 2023 00: 58
        Quote from AdAstra
        Well then, let this notorious worker look after his child himself. Since this work, although it does not create surplus value, is still important. Or did they pay in the USSR without taking it out of your “worker’s” pocket?

        Naturally important. And even very important, but the funny thing is that if the work of a teacher is so important, then a person should be given the right to choose which kindergarten to take his people to or, for example, to leave a child in the care of his grandmother.
    4. -2
      25 September 2023 08: 08
      An axiom, this is what first-year students are taught in economic theory. As well as the fact that a planned economy is good at critical moments of mobilization and begins to “limp” during periods of calm development. Which is expressed, among other things, in the form of a deficit.
      Another thing is that now, taking into account the frantic development of information technology and AI, the plan can sparkle with new colors! It's only a matter of ideology that will guide the people who form the plan.
    5. 0
      27 September 2023 10: 53
      Quote from Escariot
      surplus value was transferred to him without his consent for these needs.

      Isn’t this his “need”?
    6. 0
      3 October 2023 11: 52
      This is how the social system of the EU countries is structured, when sometimes more than 50% of accruals are deducted from salaries... And no one asks your permission.. Therefore, production should be developed as a priority, not services..
  2. +4
    24 September 2023 04: 24
    The USSR was ruined by monstrously low labor productivity. Judging by the memories of the older generation, the real struggle for productivity ended in 1978-79. Further, we essentially reaped the fruits of a very specifically understood principle “from each according to his ability, to each according to his work.” In fact, not by work, but by the results of work.

    Accordingly, the main thing was to work, but the extent to which this work produced a surplus product became more important in words, but was not always reflected in reality. Since the planning system was highly interconnected, local positives were extinguished as a whole. Thus, incentives in production were extinguished by the monstrous inefficiency of various research institutes, which were supposed to provide products for R&D. It would seem that the worker threshes at three times the rate, but overall productivity does not increase. Or vice versa - great R&D was extinguished at the production stage. This is not a paradox, but a reflection of the relationship between industries. In theory, the connection between industries and within them was supposed to be widespread informatization, which was failed in the country as a whole.

    To be fair, already in 1988, works began to appear in the United States in which the authors clutched their heads at the decline in labor productivity in the United States itself. It turned out that this is a problem of post-industrial society as a whole. But the USSR, with its distribution system, felt this more acutely.

    There is a suspicion that with all the talk about the return of the USSR, as usual, everyone will forget that not from each according to his ability - to each according to his work, but to each according to the results of his work. This is not to mention the fact that it is completely unclear how the occupancy of churches can specifically affect productivity and innovation.
    1. +16
      24 September 2023 04: 44
      After the USSR, productivity generally fell through the roof and many enterprises disappeared from the face of the earth forever. Just industrial zones. It's nothing?

      And because of this, our new power has only become stronger!
      The restoration of the USSR is absolutely impossible!!

      So don’t be afraid.... The USSR was not destroyed so that heh... heh.... to increase the productivity of some kind of labor....
      1. 0
        24 September 2023 04: 56
        Well, our labor productivity today is actually higher than in the USSR. Still, these are different things - output volume and productivity, although close.
        But what you mean is most likely economic efficiency, or rather the efficiency of the social model as a whole.
      2. -8
        24 September 2023 05: 04
        Quote: ivan2022
        After the USSR, productivity generally fell through the roof and many enterprises disappeared from the face of the earth forever. Just industrial zones. It's nothing?

        And because of this, our new power has only become stronger!
        The restoration of the USSR is absolutely impossible!!

        So don’t be afraid.... The USSR was not destroyed so that heh... heh.... to increase the productivity of some kind of labor....

        Enterprises disappeared precisely because they had low labor productivity. Roughly speaking, no one will voluntarily buy AvtoVAZ products if the Japanese and Germans do better. And this applies not only to cars, but also to many other things.
        1. +14
          24 September 2023 09: 06
          no one will voluntarily buy AvtoVAZ products if the Japanese and Germans do better
          - it depends on the price.... Today the prices for VAZ and UAZ products do not correspond to the consumer qualities of their products, but people still buy one...
          1. -3
            24 September 2023 18: 54
            Quote: faiver
            no one will voluntarily buy AvtoVAZ products if the Japanese and Germans do better
            - it depends on the price.... Today the prices for VAZ and UAZ products do not correspond to the consumer qualities of their products, but people still buy one...

            Well, people buy them because protective duties are imposed on imported cars, and AvtoVAZ itself is subsidized by the state from the pockets of the same workers.
        2. +26
          24 September 2023 10: 08
          Enterprises disappeared precisely because they had low labor productivity.

          Rave. The enterprises disappeared due to the destruction of the supply chains of the USSR and the zeroing of working capital in the 90s. Well, thanks to the vigorous activity of efficient owners, for whom it was more profitable to turn the plant into a business center than to continue to produce something there.
      3. +6
        24 September 2023 07: 30
        Quote: ivan2022
        After the USSR, productivity generally fell below the plinth

        Now labor productivity is higher than in the USSR, but this is done through the harsh exploitation of the hired worker by the “effective” owner.
        1. +5
          24 September 2023 08: 42
          Quote: Doccor18
          but this is done through the harsh exploitation of the hired worker by the “effective” owner.

          It seems that you are not talking about productivity, but about labor intensity.
          1. +8
            24 September 2023 09: 23
            Quote: victor50
            It seems that you are not talking about productivity, but about labor intensity.

            They are interconnected, but if previously a furniture maker worked eight hours a five-day week, and now 12 hours a six-day week, and even a Cerberus “with a penalty whip” is constantly watching over him, then productivity increases (more is produced in terms of one worker per shift), and intensity too (you can’t smoke too much, move at a pace, and lunch takes about twenty minutes at most)... We won’t talk about quality, because this is a slightly different story, but it is the productivity and intensity of the work process that has increased in private enterprises, because now there is unnecessary They won’t just pay you a penny.
        2. +1
          27 September 2023 11: 04
          Quote: Doccor18
          due to the harsh exploitation of the hired worker by the “effective” owner.

          Moreover, in most cases, at enterprises built in the USSR and often without changing equipment and software bases. The only modern ones are a computer in the accounting department and a video surveillance camera in the production room...
    2. +11
      24 September 2023 05: 09
      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      The USSR was ruined by monstrously low labor productivity.
      What nonsense. There was normal performance, some worse, some better. Supplying the entire country and many others abroad with TV receivers and watches entirely of Soviet production was entirely possible due to productivity, for example. Even the quality was tolerable.
      1. -4
        24 September 2023 05: 18
        What an interesting criterion is “TOlerant quality”, it’s kind of like sturgeon of the second freshness. We need to introduce this term into circulation.
        For example, only in the USSR, and then in Russia, there is the concept of different types of milk. In the damned West, these very evil Satanists, did not think of this. But the answer is on the surface - bacterial contamination. The lowest grade is guess what.
        And why? But there was no filtration. So they divided them by variety. This is not one criterion, but the main one.
        1. -2
          24 September 2023 05: 51
          What, it’s no longer interesting to talk about productivity?

          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          What an interesting criterion is “TOlerant quality”, it’s kind of like sturgeon of the second freshness. We need to introduce this term into circulation.
          For example, only in the USSR, and then in Russia, there is the concept of different types of milk.
          How smart you are. A criterion as a criterion, no worse than the cost-effectiveness criterion, have you heard of this?
          1. +5
            24 September 2023 05: 55
            Let's say I'm a customer. You come and offer me a program to increase productivity, products of tolerable quality. The question is, why do I need such performance? If I am not satisfied with the product itself.
            Give me a project to produce a product of high quality relative to competitors, but only AFTER will we discuss the productivity program.
            In general, it seems like this should be the case or not? laughing
            1. +5
              24 September 2023 08: 52
              Quote: nikolaevskiy78
              Let's say I'm a customer. You come and offer me a program to increase productivity, products of tolerable quality. The question is, why do I need such performance? If I am not satisfied with the product itself.
              Give me a project to produce a product of high quality relative to competitors, but only AFTER will we discuss the productivity program.
              In general, it seems like this should be the case or not? laughing

              In reality, not always. It depends on who you are going to compete with. In the current conditions, the production of completely domestic products “at the level”, albeit much inferior to world standards, but fulfilling its functions, I think, would be a blessing. And in the USSR this made it possible not to depend on anyone - “tolerant quality” - and to develop. In different periods of history at different paces. In some places we are approaching the best achievements, in others we are falling behind.
              1. +2
                24 September 2023 09: 37
                Quote: victor50
                In reality, not always. It depends on who you are going to compete with. In the current conditions, the production of completely domestic products “at the level”, albeit much inferior to world standards, but fulfilling its functions, I think, would be a blessing. And in the USSR this made it possible not to depend on anyone - “tolerant quality” - and to develop. In different periods of history at different paces. In some places we are approaching the best achievements, in others we are falling behind.

                I absolutely agree with you. It is one thing to engage in real import substitution/industrial independence, quite another to conquer world markets. Half measures won't work there. Either your product must be truly unique, or of the highest quality, but at a price comparable to competitors, or slightly lower...
                1. +1
                  27 September 2023 11: 11
                  Quote: Doccor18
                  either of the highest quality, but comparable in price to competitors, or slightly lower...

                  Or crush the competitor in another way and then the quality may not bother you at all... and the price too...
            2. +9
              24 September 2023 15: 05
              Quote: nikolaevskiy78
              Let's say I'm a customer. You come and offer me a program to increase productivity, products of tolerable quality. The question is, why do I need such performance? If I am not satisfied with the product itself.
              Give me a project to produce a product of high quality relative to competitors, but only AFTER will we discuss the productivity program.
              In general, it seems like this should be the case or not?

              What kind of pseudo-marketing nonsense is this? Do you go to the store yourself or does your mother buy everything? A product with tolerable quality comes off with an adequate price tag. High performance allows you to set an adequate price tag. The USSR provided such productivity, and then China rose to the occasion.

              Quote: nikolaevskiy78
              The USSR was ruined by monstrously low labor productivity.
              So what about labor productivity? Not interested anymore?
              1. -5
                24 September 2023 21: 10
                “What kind of pseudo-marketing nonsense? Do you go to the store yourself or does your mother buy everything?”
                Let's be rude somewhere else. I personally don’t see the point in wasting time on a rather long text in this dialogue. Mom doesn't recommend it.
                1. 0
                  24 September 2023 22: 34
                  My grandfather had goats. So, the one that gave the most milk had the lowest quality. Liquid.
                  1. 0
                    24 September 2023 22: 58
                    But it’s not so much a matter of fat content as it is a matter of cleanliness during milking, transportation, and reception. It happens that they take out the filter, and there... everything is missing. Well, general organoleptics also play a role, as do the indicators of fat and other dry substances.
                    1. +1
                      24 September 2023 23: 31
                      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                      But it’s not so much a matter of fat content as it is a matter of cleanliness during milking and transportation

                      Cleanliness during milking was the same, and transportation was about twenty meters from the barn to the house.
                      1. 0
                        25 September 2023 00: 15
                        Well, this is a slightly different aspect. We're talking about industry. production. At home, first of all, you know your animal well, thoroughly; moreover, your and your children’s bodies get used to its milk, to its specific organoleptic properties. It changes depending on the season, of course, but overall you have a kind of symbiosis.
                        And here we are talking about industrial production, where you just need to at least deliver the same milk from the farm correctly, hand it over correctly, accept it, defend it, so that everything is fine in the pipes and filters, so that no one bothers to wash the milk truck in non-replaceable boots or at all I didn’t forget to do this and so on and so forth and so on...
                      2. +2
                        25 September 2023 00: 25
                        Yeah, but in the West everything is perfect and every farmer wipes the cow’s udder with alcohol and steams the milk tanker.
                      3. +1
                        25 September 2023 01: 28
                        Well, by the way, yes, it is somewhat simpler there, since modular production is widespread and the situation there is better with technological support for maintenance, milking, and collection of raw materials. Our farmers simply cannot afford various gadgets that make work easier and reduce losses. Large holdings have all this, everything is fine there with modern technologies. Farmers are spinning around as best they can. It’s even easier to produce cheeses, but here you need to have a good solution. .

                        As a result, our farm milk often costs 7 days, in the USA +-21 days.
                        But in general there is a different policy in principle. Acceptance of raw materials is not based on fat content, as in our case, but based on the volume of dry matter in the raw material. Those. They don’t pay for water - they measured the batch, did the calculations, and paid for it. We pay according to fat content depending on the season. In winter there is one scale, in spring there is a second scale, in summer there is a third scale.
                        Why is this so - in the West, almost all the milk in the store is reconstituted. Everything there is made from milk powder. Dry wood is an exchange commodity. No one there cares about the refurbished product. In Russia, the consumer is very sensitive to the topic of milk powder - not very well. The consumption culture is different. Although there is no difference in the output of the mass product. Even more - such milk will last longer without changing quality. But it is what it is.
                      4. 0
                        27 September 2023 11: 15
                        Uh... I didn’t have much time on farms during the USSR, but..... for not complying with the health standards of processing, you could even get raked...
        2. +12
          24 September 2023 08: 47
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          For example, only in the USSR, and then in Russia, there is the concept of different types of milk.

          Never heard. It seemed like milk in packages had different fat content. But in my childhood there was more on tap, no one was interested in the fat content. It was excellent MILK, and not a white liquid of unknown origin. what now.
          1. 0
            24 September 2023 23: 03
            Because there was a lot of whole milk. And the one with a specific fat content is normalized back, first the cream is taken away, and then distributed as needed. But there was a lot of whole milk, because the deadlines were short, and the deadlines were short because the technologies were old.
            This doesn't mean it was bad - no. The deadlines were short because they did not know how to work with bacteriology. It was then that all sorts of up-pasteurizers and tetra-packs arrived, vacuum mini-workshops and so on.
        3. +1
          24 September 2023 18: 38
          Michael! I propose to put into circulation the judge’s masterpiece answer: the traffic police inspector broke the law, but not much, so YOU ​​are to blame. This was recently, not during the times of the USSR.
        4. 0
          26 September 2023 14: 43
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          For example, only in the USSR, and then in Russia, there is the concept of different types of milk. In the damned West, these very evil Satanists, did not think of this.

          So why should they divide varieties in the West? They only use one variety - ultra-pasteurized.
      2. +2
        27 September 2023 11: 06
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Supplying the entire country and many others abroad with TV receivers and watches entirely of Soviet production was entirely possible due to productivity, for example.

        And it’s scary to even remember about aviation.... It seems like every fourth aircraft in the world was made in the USSR...
    3. 0
      24 September 2023 08: 41
      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      The USSR was ruined by monstrously low labor productivity. Judging by the memories of the older generation, the real struggle for productivity ended in 1978-79.

      In the early 80s, a university teacher, answering a question about labor productivity, said that in industry we lag behind the United States by 2 times, in agriculture by 4 times. The teacher was advanced, knowing the subject not only from the recommended teaching methods. It was sad to hear about such a lag. What now? I think those indicators would be cruelly envied.
      1. +22
        24 September 2023 09: 58
        in agriculture - 4.

        Yes. I saw these foot wraps. When in the USSR all collective farmers are counted, from the chairman to the accountant with the bookkeeper, and in the USA - only the farmer himself. Without seasonal workers, Bill’s workshop, where he repairs equipment, the office staff that does his accounting, and so on and so forth. In general - without all the framing.

        So, of course, even more numbers could have been obtained, but that’s it. In addition, comparing agricultural productivity somewhere in the fertile Oklahoma region and here, say, in the Non-Black Earth Region - already smacks of crap. Because, first of all, the climatic conditions are different.
    4. +12
      24 September 2023 09: 52
      The USSR was ruined by monstrously low labor productivity.

      Then it is necessary to clarify in what period of the USSR. For in the post-Brezhnev and Gorbachev periods, this is a direct consequence of the so-called Lieberman reforms. When profit became the main reporting parameter. And enterprises immediately no longer needed to fight for productivity and cost reduction - it was enough to push through an increase in prices for their products.
    5. +10
      24 September 2023 10: 52
      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      ruined the USSR monstrously low performance labor.

      At the same time, the USSR's GDP grew in ways the West had never dreamed of. Therefore, regarding the epithet “monstrous”, you clearly overdid it! It must be said that in modern Russia, labor productivity is also not very good, although we live under capitalism. Well, in the USSR (there was another reason) there was not enough competition and there was a lot of planning. If this imbalance were removed, productivity would immediately increase.
      1. +14
        24 September 2023 11: 42
        in the USSR (there was another reason) there was not enough competition and there was a lot of planning

        As for competition, this is a controversial issue. For funding we fought fiercely with our competitors. In many areas - design bureaus and factories according to their profile there were more than one or two. Mil and Kamov, Sukhoi and Mikoyan Design Bureaus, Kharkov, Chelyabinsk and Leningrad tank clusters, etc., etc. It’s just that these are rumors, we know significantly less about the struggle in the production of consumer goods. Another thing is that this competition was not used quite effectively, it happened.

        As for the plan - it was precisely when there were a lot of planned indicators, as under Comrade Stalin, that the country flourished. And when they tried to reduce the plan to a couple of indicators, the main one of which was set to be profit - everything went downhill...
    6. +2
      25 September 2023 08: 24
      Apparently, the filling of churches will provide an ideological component. The author assumes a replacement of labor motives.
    7. +1
      27 September 2023 10: 55
      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      To be fair, already in 1988, works began to appear in the United States in which the authors clutched their heads at the decline in labor productivity in the United States itself.

      Well, yes, otherwise prices will fall and with them profits... It’s not good to give it to the hungry, or God forbid - to pay more to the hard workers...
  3. +5
    24 September 2023 05: 04
    The burp of capitalism in Russia...in all its glory.

    Fuck this crap.
    1. +2
      24 September 2023 05: 08
      Let me try to guess if he is the winner of the prize “For the discovery of the interaction of disorder and oscillations in physical systems from the atomic to the planetary scale”? And I thought laughing
    2. 0
      3 October 2023 07: 04
      The face of Sberbank and (sic!) Speaker of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, which is organized by the Government of the Russian Federation.
  4. +13
    24 September 2023 05: 07
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    Our labor productivity today is actually higher than in the USSR.

    Judging by the goods from China on our store shelves, I deeply doubt it.
    1. -6
      24 September 2023 05: 10
      Productivity is higher - there is simply not enough production winked
      But this is another question, why there are few of them.
    2. -1
      24 September 2023 06: 06
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      Our labor productivity today is actually higher than in the USSR.

      Judging by the goods from China on our store shelves, I deeply doubt it.

      So in China it’s even higher
  5. +10
    24 September 2023 05: 39
    As I understand it, the USSR-2 is a cocktail of capitalism and socialism. Stalin was an opponent of the system in which we live. Here they write that production in the USSR was weak. Every fifth aircraft produced in the world was Soviet. Distortion in there was production. But surrounded by enemies, this imbalance will exist in any system. The biggest enemy in the USSR was nationalism. It’s not said at all about this. The imperialists were the enemies, but not the peoples. Blaming any peoples is the first step towards Ultra-radicalism. Is this what we want?
    1. +2
      24 September 2023 05: 48
      It wasn't weak production. Otherwise the same planes wouldn’t fly. Weakness and strength are emotional assessments. And here we are talking about specific criteria.
    2. -13
      24 September 2023 06: 11
      Quote: Nikolai Malyugin
      As I understand it, the USSR-2 is a cocktail of capitalism and socialism. Stalin was an opponent of the system in which we live. Here they write that production in the USSR was weak. Every fifth aircraft produced in the world was Soviet. Distortion in there was production. But surrounded by enemies, this imbalance will exist in any system. The biggest enemy in the USSR was nationalism. It’s not said at all about this. The imperialists were the enemies, but not the peoples. Blaming any peoples is the first step towards Ultra-radicalism. Is this what we want?

      Every fifth aircraft was Soviet, but only in a closed market. As soon as the market opened, these crafts were not really needed.
      1. +14
        24 September 2023 08: 05
        then these crafts are not really needed anymore
        - in fact, all models of serial civil aircraft of the USSR were exported, so you are wrong
        1. -13
          24 September 2023 08: 29
          Quote: faiver
          then these crafts are not really needed anymore
          - in fact, all models of serial civil aircraft of the USSR were exported, so you are wrong

          Naturally they did it and naturally supplied it for export, BUT (!) these supplies were within the CMEA for self-financing or to all sorts of Cuba under obviously non-repayable loans - not that this is completely bad, but in some way it distorts the real market situation. And as soon as CMEA died and it became necessary to pay for these aircraft in foreign currency (both for ours and for Western ones), the former partners quickly realized that according to the Price-Quality criteria, Western products were better and refused to purchase Soviet equipment. Russian companies, in principle, did the same. Not to say that everything is completely bad with our aircraft manufacturing, but it is clearly impossible to produce a complete list of competitive aircraft. As in principle in the USA, for example, light aircraft are bought in Brazil or Canada, and the Soviet Ruslans and Mriyas were used as super-heavy transport aircraft.
          1. +12
            24 September 2023 08: 49
            these supplies were within the CMEA for self-financing or to all sorts of Cuba under non-repayable loans
            - not only India, Iran and other developing countries, and not at all for “non-performing loans”, but the USSR did not receive real money, but received goods - Indian coffee, Indian knitwear, etc., etc., etc. And in part they “realized” - there is no need to deceive themselves and others, the new “democratic” governments of the countries of Eastern Europe and the former union republics of the USSR were told by their new “host friends” what aircraft to buy... The West destroyed competitors, and not only in in the aircraft industry, and in all areas, and they almost succeeded....
          2. +14
            24 September 2023 09: 02
            Quote from Escariot
            or to all sorts of Cuba on non-repayable loans

            Firstly, by producing 20 percent of the world's aviation, even if we rely on your passages, we tied 20% of consumers to ourselves. Among these were not only countries like Cuba (although friendship on preferential economic terms gave the USSR a lot of positive things: not to fight, for example, in Angola, Nicaragua, to irritate the United States with the proximity of our non-peaceful means, etc.). We also supplied some things to India, but not for free. And there was more than one such country. What’s criminal about supplies within the CMEA?
            1. -10
              24 September 2023 12: 17
              Quote: victor50
              Quote from Escariot
              or to all sorts of Cuba on non-repayable loans

              Firstly, by producing 20 percent of the world's aviation, even if we rely on your passages, we tied 20% of consumers to ourselves. Among these were not only countries like Cuba (although friendship on preferential economic terms gave the USSR a lot of positive things: not to fight, for example, in Angola, Nicaragua, to irritate the United States with the proximity of our non-peaceful means, etc.). We also supplied some things to India, but not for free. And there was more than one such country. What’s criminal about supplies within the CMEA?

              Yes, I say again - there is nothing criminal, BUT (!) as soon as the CMEA countries had equal opportunities to buy aircraft from the West (both have to be paid for in foreign currency), they immediately switched to Western products. Why did they choose to buy Western products and not Russian ones? There is only one answer - the quality and price of these products.
              1. +8
                24 September 2023 15: 23
                Quote from Escariot
                As soon as the CMEA countries had equal opportunities to purchase aircraft from the West (both must be paid for in foreign currency), they immediately switched to Western products. Why did they choose to buy Western products and not Russian ones? There is only one answer - the quality and price of these products.

                The answer is different: this happened when they moved to the “CMEA” of the West, and the USSR collapsed or almost itself began to look to the West. And the reasons there were not only in price and quality. The West quickly began to put forward requirements that our aircraft did not meet. But the rest of the USSR and then the Russian Federation could not and did not want to resist this.
                1. -2
                  28 September 2023 16: 41
                  Keep believing in miracles. But the fact remains that our civil aircraft industry was not adapted to the market, and began to die under the USSR.
    3. +11
      24 September 2023 11: 52
      it's a cocktail of capitalism and socialism

      No. Lenin clearly wrote that the main criterion is in whose favor the profit is alienated. In the USSR, it was alienated exclusively in favor of the people. Well, or states, if someone likes it that way. What kind of capitalism is this??
  6. -2
    24 September 2023 06: 10
    When everyone thinks about capitalism and socialism from their own bell tower, then confusion occurs in their heads. In the West, people received all their benefits not thanks to capitalism, but thanks to the struggle for their rights. Under socialism, rights were truncated. Capitalism begins with a carnival, and then the stage despotism. Under socialism, everything begins with dictatorship and gradually moves into a universal understanding. It is impossible to make socialism out of capitalism by a willful decision. The masses come to this. Capitalism is not considered such if the lower strata of the population do not have the right to fight for their rights. This is already disguised monarchism.
  7. +1
    24 September 2023 06: 15
    Prot. Tkachev, being a fugitive Westerner and an ardent anti-Soviet, is in vain touching on the topic of Israel. Dangerous parallel.!!
    Israel betrayed Christ and 33 years later received a war with Rome for this. The words came true: “No stone will be left unturned here.”

    We also tried our best. For lack of Christ in their life and soul, they betrayed everything that could be betrayed in 1991. Including the Soviet Oath.
    And 33 years expire in 2024...... laughing
    1. -2
      24 September 2023 13: 05
      This is not literal Israel. Spiritual Israel is the community of all Christians. And Russia, as the custodian of the true faith, is its basis
      1. +2
        24 September 2023 16: 05
        Which one is true? Before Peter's reform or the apostle?
  8. -1
    24 September 2023 07: 21
    1.since the current sovereign told us all at the beginning of his reign that the destruction of the USSR is a major disaster, but those who want to eliminate the consequences of this disaster and restore what this disaster destroyed are not on friendly terms. Simply put, they are fools. So go ahead and live on these ruins. But it cannot be that the sovereign would call himself a fool. And therefore, the plans of the current sovereign clearly do not include the restoration of the USSR under any number. Well, what a sovereign, such a retinue, i.e. elite.
    2. the tragedy is that on the political horizon there is no one visible who, having replaced the current sovereign, can undertake to eliminate the consequences of that catastrophe, relying on the mind of all the rulers of Russia and all its inhabitants from the times of Ivan the Third Great to the times of Stalin, that the state of the Empire is the only possible path of Russia's existence. The uniqueness of the Rurik, Romanov and Red Soviet empires was that they did not have colonies, and all the peoples included in them voluntarily joined the Russian people. Of course, those who robbed the Russians in raids had to be whipped with a whip... It’s good if the new sovereign, say the new Stalin who restored the Empire, is already studying at the university or already holds some kind of government position. But with success, the new Gorbachev may now have such a biography. When Olympic Misha took off in Moscow, at that time Misha Marked was already crawling up the career ladder...
    3. a freebie with the distribution of free housing in the restored USSR, this is a disastrous idea. In the USSR, from that free housing, half of it was received for free by all kinds of idle talkers, instructors, released party organizers, political officers, careerists, etc. Housing must be bought, only the salary must be decent and the loans not extortionate, so that people who work with their hands and heads can buy such housing for themselves. But the problem of housing in the new USSR is still far away. First we need a new Stalin...
    1. +9
      24 September 2023 07: 40
      Mandatory home purchase is not a dogma. As well as mandatory payment for medical care and education.

      Nothing is free and cannot be. “Free in the USSR” is simply state. insurance, which was provided by contributions from the entire population.

      Every person MUST live somewhere. And to avoid homeless people, the minimum should be provided on social rental terms.

      But in the USSR there were paid residential cooperatives and paid household medical institutions.

      Do you know that Soviet-style cooperatives still exist today? They are available to ministry employees. Formally, no one has ever canceled them anywhere.
      But ordinary citizens MUST take out a mortgage. And it was firmly, firmly drilled into their heads. laughing
      1. +6
        24 September 2023 09: 31
        Do you know that Soviet-style cooperatives still exist today? They are available to ministry employees.
        I am not a ministry employee, but I live in a cooperative house according to the 1968 charter. Indeed, no one canceled the charter of the Soviet cooperative, and relatively recently they began to force everyone into the HOA. But our chairman said: we won’t rush, we’ll see what it turns into. We looked at how those who followed the lead of the mayor’s office did and decided not to do so. So we still live by the rules of 1968.
    2. +2
      24 September 2023 13: 07
      Russia is an empire. There is simply no such person yet. There will be a new leader and there will be an empire. Stalin had a better head than many of today's taken instead of multiplied by 1000
      1. 0
        24 September 2023 17: 49
        A leader is needed again. It’s strange to hear this from those who seemed to be the authorities themselves and to whom everything belonged.
        Perhaps it’s time to admit that no one just comes anywhere or appears from anywhere, but we need to at least nominate him ourselves
      2. -4
        24 September 2023 17: 51
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        Russia is an empire. There is simply no such person yet. There will be a new leader and there will be an empire. Stalin had a better head than many of today's taken instead of multiplied by 1000

        And why? Is it possible to be satisfied with your answer if it is not clear why Stalin was better off?

        Stalin had a better head, not because he was Stalin. But because there was a social layer with established urban traditions in the Republic of Ingushetia, capable of forming the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks. (15% of the population)

        And the All-Union Communist Party of Belarus, in turn, managed to nominate the best from its midst through democratic elections!

        Today's society is a society of the descendants of rural serfs thrown into the cities by powerful Soviet industrialization. Their customs and relationships did not go further than the 17th century. They still elect the President for life. Just like their distant ancestors elected Tsar Michael in 1613. And their fathers guessed in the CPSU to nominate traitors and cretins to the first places.

        Their main political slogan in the 21st (!) century is: “And for whom else?..” that is, they themselves admit that out of 100 million among them there is not a single worthy one...

        And what kind of Stalin can appear here if a popular movement defending justice cannot appear?
      3. +1
        28 September 2023 16: 43
        “Russia is an empire” - so far the restoration of the empire has stalled. And how.
    3. +1
      25 September 2023 10: 21
      everything will be in due time and there will be a new Stalin
  9. +10
    24 September 2023 07: 51
    Pure Samsonovism. Regarding the support of the population, some remember their youth when the body worked like a clock and there was greatness, and the youth who did not find the union are simply lying, saying that everything will be like now with anime, trips to Europe and TikTok + everything is free. But it won’t be like that, and when the people will understand where he ended up again, all he can do is smile and say that “yes, there are excesses and problems, but you need to be patient and someday in the bright distant future everything will be fine.” How the former 14 sisters react to all this unification is also clear.
    1. +5
      24 September 2023 08: 06
      You are strange people. Even if you are offered legislation that is more beneficial for you, you will refuse it yourself....

      Heh... heh.... Because slaves can only “get somewhere.” Not to one master, but to another. THE PRESENCE OF THE LAW IS NOT ENOUGH for you... You also need a Master who will achieve for your loved ones so that the Law is fulfilled....

      And then the question is, why do you need laws and a republican system at all?
      Let's go back to the 17th century with serfdom. The master will give you both housing and work.
  10. +11
    24 September 2023 08: 10
    These are all dreams, dreams.
    Nothing will change, the current government doesn’t need it. It has its own selfish interests.
  11. +17
    24 September 2023 08: 14
    An explosive mixture, not an article. Samsonov + Staver = Odintsov. “Oh, I’m sick, I want something, I don’t know what” (c). MF “Kuzya the Brownie.” Either socialism with a human face, or capitalism with a sweet childish smile. Either the restoration of the USSR, or the restoration of the Russian Empire.
  12. Owl
    +15
    24 September 2023 08: 36
    For the current government, memories of the USSR and the social responsibility of the Soviet state to its citizens cause a reaction in the form of hatred and anger. The current “leaders” are firmly hooked, like drug addicts, on the capitalist “needle of obtaining personal excess profits” and will not get off this “needle” on their own.
    1. +4
      24 September 2023 13: 09
      That’s right, these are the successors of Gaidar’s work, they just don’t advertise it much
  13. -15
    24 September 2023 09: 02
    In the USSR, Russia fed the other republics. The price of this was an acute shortage in the RSFSR, with the exception of Moscow and closed cities, which were well supplied.

    The realistic argument of supporters of the USSR is nostalgia for youth. Everything else is far-fetched.
    Certain categories of the USSR population lived significantly better than others: machine workers, officers, taxi drivers and black market workers, but many lived really poorly, for example, medical workers received very little.

    Calls to return the USSR smack of sectarianism. Actually, there is already a sect: “Citizens of the USSR.”
    1. -5
      24 September 2023 09: 10
      Yeah... And now they feed from the West. Especially Ukraine... And the West feeds from Russia.... laughing

      Have you ever thought WHY Russia fed everyone, although the laws in the USSR were the same for everyone? What if you think about it?

      But because the psychology of the people who fed the Master under serfdom for 4 centuries is fundamentally different from all other peoples.

      If it is enough for Jews, Asians and Caucasians to have the Law, what about for Russians?

      It is not enough for Russians to have the Law; in addition to the Law, Russians need a kind Master, who, out of love for them, will ensure that the Law is fulfilled.

      And everyone else can achieve it themselves. Without Barin.... laughing Therefore, under any laws, everyone has a donut, and Russians have a donut hole.
      1. -12
        24 September 2023 09: 43
        Quote: ivan2022
        But because the psychology of the people

        Listen, student... stop talking about “psychology”. She fed because the bosses decided that it was necessary to feed.

        In general, it’s interesting: here’s a clearly anti-Russian little man crawling around the site, conducting agitation and propaganda... and nothing, he’s alive, he’s even collecting pluses. Cool Yes
        1. +1
          24 September 2023 09: 58
          Quote: Repellent
          In general, it’s interesting: here’s an obviously anti-Russian little man crawling around the site, conducting campaigning and propaganda... and nothing, alive,

          And what do you suggest?
          1. -6
            24 September 2023 10: 03
            Quote: Senior Sailor
            Quote: Repellent
            In general, it’s interesting: here’s an obviously anti-Russian little man crawling around the site, conducting campaigning and propaganda... and nothing, alive,

            And what do you suggest?

            For now I'm just stating a fact.
  14. +4
    24 September 2023 09: 13
    The world government is destroying Russians in Russia economically, in Ukraine – physically.

    in Russia, the economic destruction of the people is not the worst thing; First of all, we are being destroyed morally/spiritually/ideologically, and this will be much more monstrous than the lack of material values.
    1. +2
      24 September 2023 13: 10
      And so and so Everything is described there Liberal culture = departure of a million during mobilization
  15. +12
    24 September 2023 09: 47
    Alas, these are all empty dreams, not supported by anything, IMHO.

    “even now there are still red stars on the Kremlin towers, and calls to change them to double-headed eagles are not supported by the country’s leadership.” - this is for now.
    And as soon as the Kremlin finally approves the cult of the monarchy and its philosophers, the cult of crispy bread, which is in full swing in films, in speeches, in textbooks, will be replaced.
    And they won't ask anyone. At the request of the population - that's all.

    As for everything else, it’s clear that there is no “economic or moral advantage.”
    Hypocrisy, promises and pipes, hypocrisy, promises and pipes... what advantages are there in a country exporting resources...
    Even the Guarantor openly says, no USSR 2 and flowers to the monument to Yeltsin and his heritage...
    1. -3
      24 September 2023 13: 11
      They say this because the liberals of USSR-2 are the end for them. But the empire will be restored. The empire is the essence of the Russian state and people.
      1. -1
        24 September 2023 18: 12
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        They say this because the liberals of USSR-2 are the end for them. But the empire will be restored. The empire is the essence of the Russian state and people.

        The USSR was not an Empire. It was a union of democratic republics.
        This is fixed in legislation.

        Stalin was not an Emperor. He was not even the chairman of the party, like D. Medvedev. In the 30s, according to the charter of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, he was the most democratic leader of Russia in its entire history. This is all a historical fact.

        The empire was and remains in the consciousness of the people, which corresponds to the 17th century and, unfortunately, does not change.

        Therefore, the USSR collapsed. Because of the contradictions of its legislation and the dense morals of its society. And he cannot be reborn in any way.

        You better re-read the comments. Almost 100% of these are comments from serfs who came into the 21st century from the 17th century. And they argue which master is better. White or Red.
      2. +1
        24 September 2023 18: 40
        What do you even mean by “empire”? The USSR could not be it, if only because of the state of many republics with a socialist system among it
        So far, a sophisticated picture is emerging of complex combinations of subjective concepts and categories in your thinking, which in no way correlate directly with reality
      3. -2
        24 September 2023 19: 23
        the empire will be restored
        The empire will not fail - if earlier men were ready to live in huts with dirt floors without any problems and lose their children from hunger, now give the men a car, an iPhone and trips to at least Turkey.
        1. +1
          25 September 2023 08: 41
          Is it bad? It's better to suffer, but for an idea?
  16. +3
    24 September 2023 09: 54
    all our former friends will want to be friends with us again.

    They don't want to be friends, but to get close.
  17. +5
    24 September 2023 09: 58
    The question is somewhat different: either we restore the USSR, or we simply disappear.
    The jingoistic patriots can at least complain, but this fact will not go away, capitalist Russia has no future.
    1. +3
      24 September 2023 13: 12
      everything is true. There is simply no other way. Or or...
    2. 0
      26 September 2023 15: 19
      The people of any capitalist country have no future and the “capitalist” citizens of Russia have absolutely nothing to do with it. You can argue for a long time about “Who lives well in Rus',” but this is clearly not the proletariat, because the capitalist system is geared towards the development of capital, which the proletariat is not. The real war is a war of Western capital against our capital, and the proletarians are hostages of the situation. A revolutionary situation cannot arise, because all potential revolutionaries are immediately expended. "Big Brother" is in complete control of the situation.
  18. +2
    24 September 2023 10: 06
    “If the Russians are so stupid that they demand the restoration of their empire, they will run into such conflicts that Chechnya and Afghanistan will seem like a picnic to them.”

    And you can’t argue (c)
    Regardless of whether Mr. Zbinev said this or not
  19. -5
    24 September 2023 10: 30
    The author of the article, A. Odintsov, with his pearls gives the impression of a poisonous spider, with beautiful calls, the purpose of which is one - to lure Prey into his web and paralyze it in order to Eat it! Until the advent of access to the global information system - the Internet, this can at least somehow be justified. But now, for 30 years now, the lion’s share of information and documents have been available about what really happened. Everyone understands that communism is a sugary theory of a poisonous spider, with the goal of gaining world domination, for the destruction of countries and the unity of peoples, the destruction of the most active and intelligent patriots of the Motherland, and the subsequent construction of slave-owning world domination of one PARASITIC “nation” of scum. Such a degenerate was a descendant of rabbis “K. Marx”, who was born under the name Levi Mordechai (Herschel Levi Mordechai). And the poisonous volumes were written not by “Beard”, but by a large group of Satanist rabbis. Any dark energy always attracts and suppresses what happened to Levin; Blank-Ulyanov used this pseudonym, but the rabbis insisted that he not advertise his affiliation with “rootless cosmopolitanism.” So he became “Lenin”. The first Locust invasion occurred in 1917, and the second in 1991. Why was this comparison formed? Take a seemingly ordinary individual that looks like just a grasshopper. But according to the Bible, it is the carrier of the dark energy of Destruction. Dark energy instantly unites into a flock with enormous destructive power and trouble to those Countries and Peoples who allowed its penetration! According to the covenants of the Creator, the Secret Always becomes Revealed. Interesting information has recently emerged. What's going on behind the scenes: https://dzen.ru/a/ZCx26jRcrB-Wjv0P?utm_referer=www.google.com What a trick! It’s useful to read the patriot’s article to the end! The shocking news of the speaker at the ECongress reveals his “merits”.
    1. -2
      24 September 2023 13: 15
      Well, you’re obviously flattering me. I’m from a different camp :)) Yes, Marx was a Jew. But socialism is a typically Russian idea. And as Berdyaev said, one must completely lose one’s conscience in order to believe that capitalism is more consistent with Christianity
      1. 0
        24 September 2023 18: 36
        Marx the Jew? By blood or faith, which he did not have and could not have?
        What is the “Russianness” of socialism, besides the subjective categories of your own mind?
  20. +2
    24 September 2023 10: 38
    Honestly, I don’t really like the article: “the hand of the Russian NATIONAL state”; “The USSR was a Christian state with an atheistic filling.”
    It’s even more funny to read about the historical mission as the antipode of the West (considering that this happened at most during the times of the USSR and that is debatable, since we considered the West as ideological enemies).

    Maybe I’m wrong, but both the USA and the USSR were able to impose their ideas on another world not so much through personal power - the ideas themselves were good: ideas for each person individually. The USSR gave the world the idea of ​​a BIG MAN - a creative person who helps society and lives with it. And if there are many of these people and they unite, they change the world.

    I also don’t really like that the article draws the line between greatness and territory and that in order for us to become great again we need to expand. The question is - why? We have already published 1000 and 1 article about the fact that Russia fed these ungrateful people, and now we need to step on the same rake again (although then we can blame all the failures on them...)?


    On the contrary, I liked the last paragraph; the main thing is to understand that the idea comes first, and not just the rights to the means of production. Yes, the main branches of the country should be owned only by the state, but something needs to be given to ordinary people, the main thing is that the idea and laws are higher

    PS
    As for me, there are too many slogans and pressure on emotions.
    But I agree that something needs to be done anyway
    1. +6
      24 September 2023 11: 07
      Honestly, I don’t like the article much

      No wonder, the article is strange. It looks like the article was written by a neural network.
    2. -5
      24 September 2023 13: 16
      everything is simple here: there are three dimensions: economic, social and spiritual. Without spirituality, history cannot be explored.
      1. +9
        24 September 2023 14: 08
        I’m still trying to understand, when they talk about spirituality, what exactly is meant? High spirituality, low average. Are there any scales for measuring spirituality? No, seriously. What is spirituality, if you put it into circulation.
        1. +4
          24 September 2023 15: 24
          when they talk about spirituality, what exactly is meant?

          This is empty chatter in a world where money rules. Even in the world of religion, not everything is so simple; there is money there too.
        2. 0
          25 September 2023 10: 26
          I think there are empirical ones. This is the ability of a people to unite for the sake of great goals. It was in the USSR. It was under Peter the First. It was under Dmitry Donskoy. Was in the USSR. Tsarist Russia was weak and the country collapsed. During Yeltsin's time, everything was clear. Now there is a process of revival.
          1. +2
            25 September 2023 14: 13
            How will you apply empirical methods to the study of the “spiritual sphere”? Is this something like a research manual, only based on the Ladder of John Climacus or the Heavenly Hierarchy of Dionysius the Areopagite? But how does this even apply to the state, given that Christianity initially puts any state outside the brackets?
            This is one of the reasons that the state Orthodoxy of late Byzantium with its Catechon essentially moved away from original Christianity into some kind of special concept.
            Original Christianity does not notice the state, it is not interested in it at all - it is the same as a natural phenomenon - it rains - you take an umbrella, live in the state - pay taxes. Your essence is not tied to the state. This has always been a problem that was solved with some speculative designs.
      2. +2
        24 September 2023 17: 54
        Hello.
        You also forgot about the political, which, alas, can sometimes change the other three categories. Just like exploring history on your own.
      3. +3
        24 September 2023 18: 33
        What is spiritual? Something that is known only to each individual person and does not go beyond personal experiences? Is the objective history of mankind unthinkable without him?
  21. +5
    24 September 2023 10: 38
    the author writes that atheism is a mistake, it’s interesting what century he lives in, it was divine providence that created Sarmatia, Poseidon, etc. and so on. ?
  22. +3
    24 September 2023 10: 41
    “Although the idea of ​​communism as a kind of “earthly paradise” turned out to be a dead end, the main goal of the existence of the USSR was achieved.” No need to write nonsense. It is only in the head of the wretched man in the street that communism is “earthly paradise.” The idea behind it was precisely in the first part of the formula - “From each according to his ability.” The second part is simply a consequence of the first. Therefore, socialism (where the second part is “to each according to his work”) is only the first phase of communism. It was then that the “impotent” philosophers of communism, in the 60s and 70s, came up with a certain formulation - “developed socialism.” The idea of ​​communism is very simple: every citizen of society consciously and honestly works for the benefit of the whole society to the best of his ability. Unfortunately, the capabilities of each individual person are limited. Some people work better with their hands, others with their heads. It is these very differences that communism levels out.
  23. -1
    24 September 2023 11: 12
    ........................................................ Balabols!........................................................ ..........
  24. +3
    24 September 2023 11: 28
    “Before uniting, we need to decisively disengage” (c)

    From the “Statement of the Editorial Board of Iskra” (1900), written by V. I. Lenin (1870-1924).
    In the original: "Before uniting, and in order to unite, we must first decisively and definitely separate ourselves."
    The meaning of the expression: an association will be strong only when its participants are people with common goals and interests. To do this, you need to “dissociate yourself” from those who do not meet this condition and cannot be participants in this association.
  25. +4
    24 September 2023 11: 40
    A planned economy is good in large or strategic industries. There it is useful and should be used. But for retail trade, the service sector, and small businesses, on the contrary, it is harmful and ineffective due to the excessive complexity of regulation. When there are at least a dozen hairdressers near your home within walking distance, then the market works well. But when you have 3-4 large cellular companies in the country, this is no longer effective - they easily collude, divide the market, inflate prices, introduce roaming, duplicate functions, and do not provide stable network coverage.
    Likewise with hundreds of banks, why so much duplication, millions of people doing the same thing, and we complain about the lack of labor. Create one bank and millions of specialists will be freed up for production. Banks should not compete; there should be one state bank, which should work to develop production and save citizens’ funds.
    1. 0
      27 September 2023 11: 37
      Quote: Esaul
      A planned economy is good in large or strategic industries.

      What have you heard about Stalin’s cooperation? All sorts of artels, collective farms...
  26. +3
    24 September 2023 12: 26
    best education in the world
    Every time I read this and ask myself: were there any ratings? How was this taken into account? Europe and the USA, without Soviet education, developed well scientifically.

    That is why, after the announcement of mobilization, about 1 million young people left for the Northern Military District.

    Maybe they just don’t want to die in an incomprehensible war for incomprehensible goals? On the contrary, it is an indicator of critical thinking.

    Fuhrer, adept of the “new paganism”

    What paganism? The Nazis were Catholics and this was an important part of Nazi ideology.

    NATO expansion has no end: Finland, Sweden

    They lived just fine without NATO until the war started. They immediately thought that it would be better for them to join the alliance. So we did our best here.

    It became no longer interesting to read this nonsense.
    1. 0
      24 September 2023 13: 19
      Do not know. Do not write. Fuhrrer waged an open struggle against Christianity. As for a million, in our time this was impossible. There is no critical thinking. Another thing is that no one wants to fight for the oligarchs, this is true
      1. +6
        24 September 2023 16: 10
        And on the inscriptions on the belt plaques, who did they mean then - Odin, Thor, Lord Yama?
        1. -3
          24 September 2023 21: 37
          But as Bormann stated in 1941: “National Socialist and Christian ideas are incompatible... If... in the future our youth do not know anything about Christianity,... Christianity will disappear by itself... the people must be more and more separated from the church and its mouthpiece -pastors."
  27. +1
    24 September 2023 13: 00
    the greatest state of all times, countries and peoples was dismantled, a power whose existence for 70 long years was an absolute miracle, for everything in it contradicted human lust and greed: and could exist only thanks to a higher providence.

    You can stuff any food with juicy epithets, but behind the epithets there should always be facts. But the facts are that the USSR was never the first economy in the world and in terms of total industrial production either, and at the end of the day, even worse, it became the third, even without taking into account the total economies of the states in the EU (technically, the USSR was also a “union of states” , so comparing it with the EU is quite correct).
    What is the greatness, actually, if you think about the beautiful letters? At the cost of enormous efforts, we killed the enraged 1/3 of the “pernicious West” in alliance with the other 2/3 of the “pernicious West”. It was a feat, of course - but is it an indicator of real greatness?
    The fact that we launched the first man into space? Of course, but pretty soon they caught up with us, and then drove us dry - we did not maintain this bar as befits the “greatest state.”

    Regarding the “absolute miracle” - there are good miracles and bad miracles in the world. A good miracle is when you walk down the street and find a wallet with 50k rubles, for example, or that you have a chronicle, and then click and it goes away and you are absolutely healthy. And bad miracles are when you work like a horse and save for an apartment in some 1991, and then EBN and the team come and create such inflation that you don’t have to buy toilet paper and stupidly wipe your butt with everything you’ve been saving for several years.
    But it was not for nothing that I emphasized the concept of a “bad miracle” - the USSR was held by both good miracles and bad ones.
    Of course, successes and dynamics after the devastation of the Civil War and World War II were good miracles. The bad miracles were that people managed to force people to live for generations in conditions that would turn the civilized “white” world inside out in a couple of hours - communal apartments, a Chinese counterfeit of the concept of “private property”, unlimited rights of repressive bodies, suppression of private activity and general state control and regulation.
    Normal creatures have a skeleton inside and meat on the outside, but there are creatures like shelled fish or turtles, whose meat is somewhere in the middle, sandwiched between the bones in an attempt to save the creature from all the achtungs outside and inside. The end result is that it may be protected, but it is wildly lame, slow and completely unadapted to constantly changing conditions and competition. This is what the USSR eventually became, with its mania for control and inculcation of ideas “about everything.” At some point in time, the double skeleton was so tired of its “contents” that the minorities, with the silent (approving or not) indifference of the majority, simply threw it all away (in general, everything, including the empire).

    Actually, this is a reason to think about how magical and wonderful everything was, apart from the fairy tales of Uncle Remus.

    P/s I, unfortunately, did not strengthen the other set of praises and angry remarks towards the West. It’s all become very boring over the years, the same quotes, sucking on the same torn out facts.
    The West, of course, is terrible and immoral, but it is still alive. The USSR was rotting, as they say.
    When a smoking grandmother experiences a healthy lifestyle with dumbbells and spinach, this is a reason to think. Always.

    P/p/s I agree with the author on only one thing - we need to return all or most (excluding the Baltic states) from the former USSR in the form of a new superstate. Mostly peacefully, politically, economically. We have no other options if, of course, our ambitions want to continue to remain something real and not a stream of feverish delirium of greatness. But in any case, we will have to start with OURSELVES in this process. A pearl always develops around something, a crystal always grows from a good growth point - our superstate will grow in any case when we create the conditions for this here. This is a priority. At the moment I do not see these conditions.
    But simply because some Athonite elders or mossy political theorists from the time of King Pea wrote about it, nothing will work out. Even Joseph Vissarionovich is powerless against physics.
    1. -1
      24 September 2023 21: 39
      the first part of the article provides data that indicates the strong economic indicators of the USSR
  28. +5
    24 September 2023 15: 51
    I read it and everything seems to be correct, everything is fine, but it still feels like that shoe is pinching somewhere.
    What's wrong with atheistic filling? If a person is an atheist, is he automatically a cannibal or what? The fact that the priest’s channels began showing films from the USSR times does not mean anything. Priests at all times have always been opportunists.
    Regarding culture, they are now banning and want to ban, I don’t know exactly, I don’t keep track, “Barbie”, “Oppenheimer”, that they do not correspond to some of our values, but at the same time “Directly Kakha” was shown in cinemas, which is probably full correspondence between culture and values? The mentioned films about the time of the USSR, like this article, are opportunistic, camouflage, when there is nothing to brag about now, like about the USSR, but you watch again what an unpleasant feeling, like this article - the athletes/cosmonauts are good, well done, and everyone around them is bosses and others The “bloody KGB officers” are all trying to prevent them from “winning”. I won’t write about the T-34 at all, it’s just a fairy tale about a gray bull. Repression, everything is also negotiable and I won’t get into it, I’ll just say that in a “democratic” Russian Federation, this will be even cooler and more unscrupulous. Again, hello to the censorship that the Union is so blamed for.
    “The second stage began with the collapse of the USSR (empire) and ended with the beginning of the Northern Military District, which is the prologue to the restoration of the empire,” -
    This is not a prologue, I’ll just remind those who have forgotten that before it began, someone put forward an ultimatum to the notorious West, so to speak, the very first “red line”, which was spat on from a high bell tower. So it began as “small and victorious,” but as it turned out, everything that was beautiful and brave at the parades in reality - 1,5 million sets of uniforms were missing from the warehouses, etc., etc.
    "The most advanced economy in the world will be built in Russia, combining the features of socialism and a market economy, something close to the social market economy of Germany."
    I love in all the articles this modern “future non-realizable tense”, which, probably, it’s time to introduce it into the Russian language. And yet, yes, the author is in which Germany? If it’s the Federal Republic of Germany, then no matter what the Author writes, it’s still capitalism as it is.
    And lastly, the author did not write who will build Union 2.0, or rather, under whose leadership? Comrade Lenin and Stalin following him are not there. And those who are now “at the top” will not do this, no matter what “patriotic” togas they dress up in, now talking on every corner about the heroes of the Second World War.
    1. -2
      24 September 2023 21: 41
      The Uniter will appear when times get tough. They're already coming. When they beat us up from all sides - Armenia is an example of this, then there will be changes here too. And they are already coming. Time has brought forward Lenin and Stalin, just like Peter the Great. Do you think they won’t be found?
      1. 0
        25 September 2023 01: 30
        The belief that “everything will be fine” and that “someone will come and fix everything” is a very bad thing, although it helps you survive.
        We must remember that the Romans and the ancient Egyptians and the Sumerians and the Aztecs and a bunch of others thought so. No one came (except barbarians or conquistadors). Well, or there, the Germans. The Fuhrer came at a difficult moment and said “here he is!” and everyone fought in ecstasy - how did it all end? The fact that it got even worse.
        I’ve been hearing for a long time all these speeches about “wait, there’s something shining on the horizon” and the sly squints with winks attached to them. A quarter of a century has already passed since the last wait, which is still glimmering on the horizon :-) There is no guarantee that the next one will not be the same. By analogy with the neighboring state, where very. many expected that “Yanuk will end and we’ll live” - well, it’s over, “Porosh will end and we’ll live” - well, it’s over, “Zelensky will come and we’ll live” - well, here it is. Now we can already hear expectations that when it ends, everything will heal. It’s an old song, and there’s no end to it.. And we also have a similar song, we just don’t want to admit it.
        Well, how many people were there at the very top from whom more was expected? Since the time of Brezhnev, for example. All the colossal filtration and selection power of our nomenklatura worked for this - and what were the results? Psshshhffff.. Why is there any confidence that in a system with such deeply rooted prerequisites for this “Psshhhff...” the right person at the right moment can be at the wheel? Is this the belief that those around him “all as one” will feel his vital-intellectual emanations and take off their hats at once? This will not happen, on the contrary, over the past decades, the individual’s emergency situation within an atomized society has been growing at an unrealistic pace - authority is now held in high esteem only by the most dense layers of the population, who decide something only in their wet fantasies. And this is ostentatious authority, “the authority of a big white beard.” And for others - you said something wrong about the leftists - and that’s it, goodbye, half of the potential electorate flew away. He said something wrong about the liberals - and goodbye to the second half.

        It’s good to dream about the Messiah, but try to draw his image yourself - the image of a person whom you would trust unconditionally. And then ask yourself - what about your family, friends, acquaintances - how would they perceive this? This is all a chimera, unfortunately. Civilizations do not rely on miracles all the time - and we have already had enough miracles over the past 200 years.
        1. +3
          25 September 2023 01: 36
          As a result, the next Emperor Palpatine will come. He's a bastard somewhere in the window, hiding a plug behind his back. But in general I don’t like this intensified discourse around empire. Somehow the Tower there alone felt that we did not feel. The topic is being pumped too broadly. They root theses, so to speak, in the minds of the villans and other peasants.
      2. 0
        25 September 2023 08: 53
        I think no."""""""
  29. -1
    24 September 2023 17: 46
    I’m wondering: how old is the respected Author?
    He lived under the USSR, and if he lived, I would like to know where?
    Who did you work for?
    What could his family afford?

    For example, I lived under the USSR, and studied, and worked, and served in the army.
    And not in these Moscows of yours, but in Russia itself - the Far North and the eternally hungry Volga region.
    So I know about the queues, and about the constant shortage, and about the level and quality of education, such as free education.
    And all the way, they told me what a powerful, mighty, rich country we have, built by the hands of fraternal peoples.
    And then it was all over.
    Literally in a week, once - and there is no Union.
    General.
    This is that strong, powerful and durable country, inhabited by responsible, honest, decent people.
    There was neither a civil war, nor any serious socio-political movement in defense of the Union (no need to talk about 10.1993 - it was purely money sawing there) - none of this happened - all the peoples happily fled to their national homes and began to build a new life, a kind of feudal-capitalist system.
    Everyone did it in their own way, but the foundation is the same - anti-Russian.

    Why am I all this?
    Author, there is no need to mislead people - the USSR was not a rich, prosperous country in which people lived freely and comfortably, and, as in any country, in the Union it was necessary to pay for everything in one form or another.
    And most importantly, in the USSR, the inherent rights and needs of a person were severely clamped and curtailed: the need for self-realization, selling one’s labor on the free market and the right to property.
    However, the problem is that socio-economic laws, unlike physical ones, always take their toll, it’s just that their manifestation is extended over decades.
    This is precisely why the Union collapsed, because a state that tramples basic human needs is unviable in the long run.
    People who advocate the return of USSR 2.0 simply do not understand what kind of country it was, how everything was arranged, and most importantly, why everything has sunk into oblivion.
    Take off your rose-colored glasses already, Author, and don’t put them on others - you’ll be fine.
    I think so.
    1. -1
      24 September 2023 17: 52
      Poor, you, poor, I, too, am from the “eternally hungry Volga region”, then you had to collect a parcel so that you wouldn’t starve. Minus is mine.
    2. 0
      24 September 2023 21: 47
      I worked in the USSR at a factory and in a research institute. I am not misleading anyone. The USSR was not a rich country. But everyone worked there. The part-time workers had a large salary. There really was no freedom, I wrote about this clearly. It is not I personally who advocate for the restoration of the empire, but public opinion. Everyone knows what was good there. And that's enough. There weren't enough clothes. Now as much as you want. But it is impossible to compare our state with the USSR. Therefore, a golden mean is needed. And she will. This is a historical law.
      1. 0
        23 December 2023 23: 44
        With great delay (as it happens) I will note a few points:
        1.
        The USSR was not a rich country. But everyone worked there.

        Yes, they worked. Not all, but they worked. Only the efficiency of this work was below the baseboard. And so, yes, they plowed right in. Even this principle was born - I’m not happy for you to work, I want you to stagger. Personally, I will say this - all the years of studying at a technical school and working at the enterprise, we went to a sponsored collective farm and even worked - we didn’t play the fool, but in the stores there was a little more than nothing, and now no one goes anywhere, but you can buy everything . Mystery!
        2.
        The jobbers had big salaries

        Yes. It was almost impossible to just buy with this salary, just buy, go to the store and just buy what you want. You needed connections and acquaintances - if you don’t help, you won’t go, this is also a saying from my Soviet past.
        3.
        It is not I personally who advocate for the restoration of the empire, but public opinion. Everyone knows what was good there. And that's enough

        Author, why immediately excuse yourself from your own article? Don't worry, it's not the 37th yet. And as for “public opinion”, this is only until you have to pay for the “restoration of the Empire” with the lives of your relatives, empty shelves and a bunch of everyday problems - and that’s it, the craving for restoration is over. As for the “everyone knows” argument, this is pure manipulation, you should be ashamed, Author.

        You can go on and on, it’s easy to find a counterargument for each of your phrases - not out of harm, but to the point, but this is empty chatter.
        The late USSR rested on two pillars:
        - a calm life and confidence in the future;
        - near-zero knowledge about life in other developed countries.
        As soon as the economy collapsed, the quiet life ended, confidence evaporated, and people, looking around, realized that they couldn’t live like that, the USSR was everything.
        And this “everything” revealed decades of unsolvable shortcomings in economic management, youth education, and gaps in ideology.
        We just had to do everything on time, but it turned out the way it turned out.
        So we don’t need USSR-2.0 - not the best example, however.
        Let's come up with something of our own, real, necessary and useful, and not take the experience of completely different people from a completely different time.
        And if everything “grows together,” call it whatever you like, and I’ll simply call it “Motherland.”
        I think so.
        1. +1
          25 December 2023 09: 19
          I lived in the USSR, many of your comments have an answer in the material. I agree, you need your own. But the lands still need to be returned and what is possible from the empire, too. Have a nice day, thanks for the release!
  30. +7
    24 September 2023 18: 30
    Another philistine saying from an illiterate character who does not even understand the essence of the doctrine of the development of human society, on which Soviet society was built
    The successes achieved under the USSR are admirable, but there is not the slightest understanding of the political economic structure of the country and the fundamental science, without which all this would have been impossible
    The article is aimed at sensitive-minded “Great Russians-patriots” who so strongly want to return a certain “great Russia” associated with themselves
    So far, Russia is moving towards another world war, in which it will become only a tool that the largest industrial states use in their interests
    1. -1
      24 September 2023 21: 52
      This is not an argument. You cannot call a person that about whom you know nothing :))) One of my educations is the Faculty of Theoretical Physics - the second is economics, the third .... The entities are familiar to me and I risk guessing to a greater extent. Society for the restoration of a strong country. What did I do ? You are right, we are heading towards war. And then the Russian world will definitely consolidate
      1. +3
        25 September 2023 10: 21
        “And then the Russian world will definitely consolidate

        Russian, Arab, Anglo-Saxon, Christian, Muslim and other worlds are forms of nationalism in their pure form, and nationalism cannot serve unification.
        They are united by common interests - capitalists do not care what nationality or religion the employees work for them. This is clearly seen in sports, where players of different nationalities and religions are on the same team.
        Consolidation comes from class interests, as in sports, when people of different nationalities and religions fight together for victory and a monetary prize. Proletarians put forward and fight for economic demands, and political ones are formed by the party of the proletariat, representing the interests of the absolute majority of the population.
        The USSR called for the unification of the proletarians of all countries, regardless of nationality and religious affiliation, and half the world welcomed this - the socialist camp, the non-alignment movement, liberation and anti-colonial movements for equality, etc., and the multinational and multi-confessional Russian Federation calls for the unification of the Russian world and why should the rest of the world support it?
        1. 0
          25 September 2023 11: 07
          Eh, it would be nice if someday we would unite simply because we are people)))
      2. +2
        25 September 2023 11: 30
        You as a “personality” are not interesting to me and I don’t judge this, your philistine confusion of the bourgeois system and the socialist one is enough for me for the sake of building some kind of next “great Russia” based on your own preferences
        Your credentials, among other things, led you to a revisionist position regarding the building of socialism, or more precisely, “great Russia”
        You have no scientific understanding of the structure of a society with a self-sufficient working class
        Not a word about the contradiction of class interests, not a word about the consequences or means of eliminating them, only an attempt to create the illusion of a great future for a state that exists exclusively in the interests of the ruling class, and, naturally, arguments in favor of the totalitarianization of the capitalist system for the sake of “unifying the Russian world”
        Your article reflects the vital interests of Russian capital, interweaving with them the history of a completely differently structured society, due to the lack of similar examples of the country’s economic successes, but neither the unification of the “Russian world” nor its consolidation will solve the fundamental problems that cause, among other things, the war , which is taking place now, but the consolidation of capital will only exacerbate class contradictions, but already in the vastness of almost all the former republics of the USSR
        1. 0
          3 October 2023 14: 03
          Philistine bias: aren’t you interested in China’s experience? Class contradictions are described - read the middle
          1. 0
            9 October 2023 12: 00
            Quote: Alexander Odintsov
            And most importantly, Russia is the main bearer of the Orthodox faith and, therefore, the main opponent of the measures of the world government, which aims to carry out an anti-Christian revolution, destroying and destroying Christianity in Europe and the USA, planting all kinds of perverted cults of “minorities” and “same-sex” marriages. And in the future, this leadership role of Russia will only strengthen as our state revives.

            It is impossible for a person to exist who does not have power over his own life, due to a lack of understanding of the structure of social existence without holy faith in something more than he is capable of knowing, in order to deprive the “imaginary” dependence of social-economic, political and social processes on all people as such and on himself in particular, everything that happens is attributed to a “higher intention”, “the natural course of events” - this is the function of religion in the past and partly in the present; today its role is taken over by bourgeois science, which places only natural science at the forefront of all human knowledge
            But the evil "world government", whatever or whoever it is, wants an anti-Christian revolution - that is, the replacement of one means of manipulating the illiterate masses with a more perfect one, exalting individualism and encouraging possessiveness in the broadest sense of this concept
            You see in the modern political-economic existence of society something “unnatural”, alien to the “correct” course of events, the rest of the capitalist world has long moved away from the stage of its formation in which the 32-year-old Russian Federation is stuck, trying to pursue a political agenda, parasitizing on history The USSR, which did not represent Russia, either as an independent state or as a bourgeois state, understanding the contrast of the realities of socialist society and modern Russian society, cannot help but refer to the history of the Russian Empire, which is as backward as the modern one, dating back to feudalism
            China is a capitalist state, its experience can be taken into account by reactionaries
            To talk about the structure of a progressive society, you would need to read and think a lot about political economy and the philosophy of dialogue
            There is such an abundance of sophistical narrowings in the article that just to clarify them you need to write a separate article
            As the inevitable expansion, which is part of the existence of capital, including beyond conventional geographical boundaries, as the still growing monopolization of markets, capitalism (as a form of social relations that does not imply the power of people over its development and control thereof) will destroy the entire material basis of their existence on most of the planet, simultaneously destroying a huge part of the human population, unless people are forced to radically change their “beliefs” by a total war, they will gradually die out, having failed to cope with the task of objectively describing and observing the laws of motion of matter on all its levels of organization and, due to this, inability. cope even with relationships within isolated societies
            You confuse two concepts that differ in revolutionary changes in human history due to a lack of knowledge regarding each of them, you do not understand which aspect of the previous formation determines the subsequent, more progressive one, you do not see their development, you do not see the development of the class of people who, throughout human history, history carried the burden of ensuring production, and making people culturally different from animals, the progress of which directly depended on the position of these people relative to the rest of the mass, their interconnection and development until the revolutionary changes, which finally concluded the acquisition of independence in self-government by the class of the most progressive working people and justification of the goals of their work
            Stop repeating the mistake of Dühring and other under-socialists who did not understand the subject of their judgments but who will become sacredly confident in their rightness, you are not responsible for the consequences that your speeches have on your readers, but this does not mean there are no consequences, they are always there, only if you can you will dispose of them at the right moment in such a way that it would not be for the benefit of specific individuals or groups of persons and to the detriment of others, but for the benefit of the development of progressive thinking of all people, regardless of their class or imaginary affiliation
  31. -1
    24 September 2023 20: 27
    It is generally accepted fairness when the winner of an election receives a majority of votes.
    The majority of the population are proletarians, employees bought on the market.
    Minority - the richest 1% of people who own more wealth than the rest of the planet's population.
    Socialism presupposes the dictatorship of the proletariat - the absolute majority of the population, the vanguard of which is the Communist Party.

    The USSR was destroyed not by the USA, but by M.S. Gorbachev’s reforms, the essence of which is perestroika and the transition to market relations, which are based on the Mormon worship of money.
    Yeltsin was a member of the CPSU for many years, held high positions and could have corrected the distortions of M.S. Gorbachev, but instead he betrayed his party comrades, destroyed the USSR, carried out the privatization of public property and restored capitalism.

    Due to its size, low density of multinational population and natural resources, the Russian Federation inevitably became an object of interest for transnational associations, facilitated by the desire of large capitalists to increase their incomes through integration into the world capitalist system.
    Without completely breaking the inheritance, V.V. Putin created a political party, relying on which he established control and subordinated large Russian capital to the interests of the state, which was accompanied by resistance from capitalists at all levels and regions, causing a negative reaction from the West.
    The rejection of the dictatorship of the proletariat leads to the inevitable assimilation of power and capital, and the intra-class contradictions of the capitalists, fueled from the outside, threaten the collapse of state formation after the end of the era of V.V. Putin.
  32. +4
    25 September 2023 04: 30
    All this, of course, is great, I want to see my country strong and powerful, but the article is from the series: They will all die, and we will all go to heaven. Here we will be reunited, here we will become stronger, here we will show everyone. But there’s nothing formally to show, except maybe draw cartoons and lines of different colors. And then let’s create the USSR, and let’s create the Russian Empire... or even the Ming Dynasty, here everything is like Krylov’s: No matter how you sit down, you’re not fit to be a musician... All these are some kind of dreams against the backdrop of reality, who will create all this ? Guarantee? Bloggers? New society? During this time, when we have a new state, citizens realized that they can only rely on themselves, and no longer trust anyone.....
    1. -1
      25 September 2023 14: 36
      Progress is inevitable. Time and difficult circumstances create new opportunities and ideas. When they surround us around the perimeter, they will start to think differently.
  33. -1
    25 September 2023 07: 55
    I came across a funny video online.
    How one fool went to Ukraine laughing

    https://youtu.be/NfuTtdhXmH8 часть-1
    https://youtu.be/NLoM7rZaJMo часть- 2
    1. -1
      25 September 2023 13: 12
      Cool. Only the link in the second video is broken.
      I found the correct one https://youtu.be/nyVK1jjFH2s
  34. -3
    25 September 2023 08: 42
    restoration of the USSR, perhaps partial, is still inevitable

    Fierce game, adherents of communism quickly take out October badges from under their pillows. But in fact, another blurring of reality - a country under external control with crowds of migrants is sliding towards military defeat and into a globalist hell.
    1. -2
      25 September 2023 09: 45
      Yes, we’ll definitely go there to the globalist one... But we won’t have time to get there. The clock is counting down!
  35. +3
    25 September 2023 09: 39
    To create a state or empire, a state-forming people is needed. The Russian genocide leaves no hope for the restoration of the USSR. The non-Russians in the Kremlin cannot do anything without relying on the Russian people, but they will not allow us to rise even with their total geopolitical loss. Surkovschina stopped the Russian uprising in Donbass, and Surkovschina will also block the restoration of the USSR.
    1. -3
      25 September 2023 09: 47
      It seems so. But the days of a managed democracy system are numbered. A reboot is inevitable.
      1. 0
        25 September 2023 21: 31
        Genghis Khan's empire was rebooted. But after the reboot, the capital ended up in Moscow. So for us, Russians, such a reboot with the next capital, for example, in Grozny, is neither hot nor cold.
  36. 0
    25 September 2023 11: 59
    We have no other way to solve the problem of the Northern Military District, except for the annexation of Ukraine, perhaps, except for its westernmost edge

    Do the people of Ukraine themselves want to join us? Otherwise you won’t be nice by force! Will we annex again and take off our last pants to build and restore in the annexed territories? Will they thank us for this?
    I am extremely skeptical about the restoration of the USSR 2.0
    If the scoop model worked well, it would never fall apart. And the reason is not the 5th colonies, the intrigues of the West, or the harm of the liberals. The model itself turned out to be unviable. Why should we try to fit into the same pants again?
    How many more experiments can be carried out on Russians! Here and there. Enough!
    1. +1
      25 September 2023 14: 29
      This is not about restoring the old. The USSR was a step forward from Tsarist Russia. Our future is a step forward from the current system and the USSR. Do you want the current experiment in recycling our population to continue? Social surveys show that the current system has no future. No experiments needed. We need creation. And I think the majority of the people also do not want to leave the destruction of Russians on our historical lands. Only sober calculation!
  37. +1
    25 September 2023 12: 13
    The ruling class in Russia are the oligarchs who own the mineral resources, land and means of production. Most of the bureaucracy is affiliated with them. And together they keep their money in Western banks, have assets there and keep their children there. Tell them about your idea about the restoration of the USSR.
    1. -1
      25 September 2023 14: 33
      You won't believe it, they know and say it doesn't make sense. So what ? there is nothing eternal under the sun. Here was Tsarist Russia, the same bourgeois class. So where is all this? Progress cannot be avoided.
  38. -1
    25 September 2023 14: 37
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    Well, our labor productivity today is actually higher than in the USSR. Still, these are different things - output volume and productivity, although close

    Simply because technological progress does not sleep. In general, I agree with the article - communism is inevitable if humanity wants to develop further.
  39. +3
    25 September 2023 14: 49
    This, unfortunately, is a utopia. The maximum that can possibly be protected is an alliance with Belarus. But after the Old Man leaves, they will begin to tear with terrible force. They hate the Balts to the extreme, Moldova under Romania, the 404th - we are generally silent, Georgia and Azerbaijan are under Turkish influence, Armenia, well, the forecasts are rather negative, Kazakhstan feels like a regional power, Central Asia has expelled the Russians, everyone has left. The global task for Russia is to maintain our borders (Kaliningrad, Crimea, Kuril Islands) and not hostile neighbors, at least half. It’s clear that the Balts and the 404th don’t count, these will have to be kept at gunpoint, but with Transcaucasia, Turkey, Iran, Kazakhstan we need strong relations with the economy in the spotlight
    1. 0
      26 September 2023 09: 35
      It seems that way now. When Ukraine is cleared, in addition to the western part there will be a base - Russia, Ukraine, Belarus. Then Ossetia, Transnistria. And Moldova can be easily squeezed out, if there is a desire at the top. Next - Northern Kazakhstan - our land. It's ok for a start. But all this will be done by other people and another Russia, which will exist after 2025. We don’t have empire-builders yet. Oligarchy and empire are incompatible.
  40. -2
    25 September 2023 14: 51
    Now we almost live in USSR-2.
    The regional committee, the party apparatus, the pioneers already exist.
  41. +1
    25 September 2023 19: 35
    Quote: Alexander Odintsov
    Progress cannot be avoided

    What do you consider progress? Meta universes and 50 genders?
    1. 0
      26 September 2023 09: 29
      Well, you give it! Is that what you think? Russia will be the second or third economy in the world. This will be progress.
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    2. 0
      27 September 2023 05: 56
      Quote: Vladimir80
      Quote: Alexander Odintsov
      Progress cannot be avoided

      What do you consider progress? Meta universes and 50 genders?

      Marx also answered this. There are progressive peoples, and there are reactionary ones. Such reactionaries die off because they cannot adapt to new conditions.

      It's like in school - you succeeded in one thing, but fell behind in another. Even today's top-notch Jews were beaten to smithereens by the Romans in their time. Precisely because they thought about the Empire when they should have thought about their souls.

      Yes, it’s the same in the Bible. For example, Deuteronomy chapter 28.... In direct text, so to speak. laughing
      1. 0
        28 September 2023 09: 36
        That's right. Personal salvation of souls is the main thing. But there are social problems. And how they are resolved in the Bible is also described. Empires collapse not only because of a spiritual crisis, but because of the wrong actions of the elites. See Toynbee's theory. Then a spiritual crisis begins. It was in Tsarist Russia, it was in the late USSR, and judging by the pictures on TV, the falling birth rate and incredible corruption, we have it too. Is not it ?
        1. 0
          28 September 2023 16: 04
          Quote: Alexander Odintsov
          That's right. Personal salvation of souls is the main thing. But there are social problems. And how they are resolved in the Bible is also described. Empires collapse not only because of a spiritual crisis, but because of the wrong actions of the elites. See Toynbee's theory. Then a spiritual crisis begins. It was in Tsarist Russia, it was in the late USSR, and judging by the pictures on TV, the falling birth rate and incredible corruption, we have it too. Is not it ?

          No not like this. "Personal salvation of souls" is not what I was referring to. The reference was to Deuteronomy, chapter 28. And there it was about social problems, about the prospects of the nation in this world. The nation that plundered its country does not have them.
  42. +1
    27 September 2023 08: 21
    God forbid that this happens... it’s either “we will go this way in 10 years, or we will be destroyed”
  43. +1
    27 September 2023 08: 48
    Who will restore the USSR? Modern "effective" managers? They cannot do this due to limited intellectual abilities and work experience, only in terms of withdrawing money.
    1. 0
      28 September 2023 09: 39
      Liberals will not do this. Current events will bring other people into the arena. Just as Peter, Lenin and Stalin appeared, so the new leader of the country will appear. And this will not be a candidate for the transition of power. This will be a new person, perhaps little known yet.
      1. +1
        30 September 2023 11: 31
        Disturbing parallels arise in connection with discussions about the “arrival of a new leader.”
        In the ancient history of Judea, and not so ancient, but similar - for late Byzantium - many prophecies are known about the great future of the country and the coming coming of the great King.
        1. 0
          30 September 2023 21: 08
          Absolutely right. The arrival of the White Tsar, the Great Potter. Prophecies of the monk Abel, etc.
  44. +2
    29 September 2023 08: 38
    There will be no USSR.
    They won’t give.
    The media, controlled by scoundrel liberals, respect the media field with theses about what only galoshes could do in the USSR.
    For example, yesterday, the boyfriend of the busty journalist Asker Zade, and part-time head of VTB (49%) belongs to the Russian Federation, said that the shipyards transferred to the bank were using machines manufactured in 1932, received as reparations from Germany.
    That is, in his opinion, in the USSR, even machine tools could not be produced, and the modern Russian military-industrial complex works on Nazi equipment.

    How long will fat government officials distort our history, throw mud at us, and mock us?

    It would be better if he amused himself with a young mistress, on pillows worth 200 rubles, in a modest mansion, under 000 m1000.

    But the tendency for a new attempt to suck up to the West (perhaps they will forgive them for the SVO) is immediately visible.

    So the Kremlin quasimodo Aslanbek Dudayev, aka Vladimir Surkov, wrote an article about the unity of the USA, Europe and Russia.

    He is fulfilling a social order because of the okiyan.
    He is doing everything to ensure that Russia lives as before, pumping out hydrocarbons, enriching a narrow stratum of world-eating court oligarchs.

    Article by Aslanbek Dudayev (nee Surkov):

    https://actualcomment.ru/rozhdenie-severa-2309262036.html
    1. 0
      30 September 2023 21: 09
      Agree. Surkov's article is a plan for surrender. But the empire will be restored. Liberalism is doomed - collapse until 2025.
    2. 0
      20 November 2023 16: 00
      Do you think they will just give you power? Power must be taken, and for this the people must self-organize and self-educate. This is more common for Russians than anyone else; for us, community is a thousand-year-old way of life that was only recently broken. It is precisely because of this peculiarity that we accepted communist ideas as our own. The collapse of the USSR is not only to blame for the rotten elite, but also for the people who allowed themselves to be fooled and allowed the country to be destroyed. “The punishment for civil passivity is the power of evildoers” (Plato).
  45. +1
    29 September 2023 19: 29
    The main thing that needs to be revived is self-confidence. People don’t trust the authorities, they don’t trust their employers and bosses, their neighbors. Because everyone deceives: they say one thing and do another. We must return responsibility for words and deeds, then the purpose of life (ideology) will appear, and those who will believe and create will appear. We must start with ourselves, remember who we are, and then we can do everything else, gradually restoring faith in the great country and its real return as the Motherland!
  46. -3
    30 September 2023 21: 02
    Bring back the planned system, which artificially creates shortages and excesses, and some guys on top will decide how much sausage you eat and whether you need toilet paper, or will you make do with newspaper? Are there any people in the chat here who are not Muscovites or residents of military camps with special supplies who remember the USSR in the 70s and 80s? Running after “throwaways”, waiting in lines and getting basic things through connections or under the counter?
    What kind of nostalgic teacher of Marxism-Leninism is pushing emissions against investments that accelerated the deficit in the 80s and wild inflation in the 90s? Everyone knows how it was untied from the dollar exchange rate - no one wanted to take our rubles abroad, there was a gray dollar market, the concept of hard currency and “wooden”. And a huge debt for unsuccessful acceleration, which Russia took upon itself after the collapse of the USSR.
    The negation of the negation is an unscientific metaphysical conclusion, the fascination with which within the framework of Marxism led to humanitarian narrowness and ultimately to the collapse of the USSR. This ritual is a way to consolidate uneducated people in power, ruining even the reincarnation of Russia in the form of the USSR.
    There is no need for such happiness a second time.
    1. +1
      30 September 2023 21: 19
      There is no need to think in cliches. I’m not a teacher of Marxism, you guessed it wrong. Does China have a planned system - is it bad? I wrote that we don’t need what was bad in the USSR. We need what was good. Therefore your argument is not adequate. The emission under Gorbachev accelerated inflation because money began to be simply cashed out through Komsomol enterprises. They didn't work. And at the best of times, everything was fine with this. This is better than taking loans in foreign currency under the Tsar or running after foreign investments like now. The negation of the negation works very clearly. The USSR denied Tsarist Russia, we denied the USSR, now we will deny liberalism. Where is the unscientificness here? I agree that we don’t need something like it was under the USSR and more than 60% don’t want something like it now. Do you like survival? Progress is needed, the PRC is using the experience of the USSR and it’s not so bad, but there is a market there. We need to implement the same system. Come up with something more interesting.
      1. -2
        1 October 2023 21: 40
        Dear author!

        Reading your discourse with your opponents, I noticed that their common characteristic feature is an obsession with a certain general obsession.....
        My thoughts on this matter are as follows.

        For 1000 years, the Russian people have absolutely not mastered Christianity, which was preached by saints and righteous people. This is confirmed by the disgraceful position of the church since the time of Peter. Moreover, in 70 years he has not mastered the ideas of communism. They came from the West and are as alien to it as the “Jewish faith.”

        BUT ! There is also something unique, besides ancient paganism. This is the age-old dream of a “peasant paradise”, which the people carried until the 20th century, when they raised the Tambov uprising to strangle the hated City.
        The “peasant paradise” was replaced by the ideas of social Darwinism, which Gorky wrote about in his article “On the Russian Peasantry” a hundred years ago.
        And a new dream about market regulation....

        Almost everyone here - “but he read Adam Smith and was a deep economist..” - in the words of A.S. Pushkin. THE MARKET IS THE ONE! You can remain a scoundrel and don’t need a conscience, but the market ITSELF will regulate everything, hurray comrades!

        Such a figure in economic science as the winner of the A. Smith-J. Keynes Prize is not possible in Russia. For he speaks primitively; "capitalism is a strange delusion that scoundrels, based on the most vile motives, can all together benefit humanity"
        No ! Where is the flight of fantasy and dreams? Where is the great faith in miracles? For our man, the main thing is that all the scoundrels and scum come together... “and then, from their great mind, we will live like in Paradise!”
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          2 October 2023 16: 32
          I am a professional economist. I have a sober calculation and a desire to make the country great again and so that our mothers give birth to children and people are needed. The Russian people have mastered Christianity perfectly after 80 years of atheism. There is not a single nation in the world where so many Orthodox churches were still built. The rest of what you said is not very clear to me. Keynes is absolutely right, as is Weber. M. Weber: “The era of the XNUMXth century, full of intense religious life... hanged... an impeccable clear conscience... accompanying profit.” Capitalism in the American version is deadly dangerous for Russia. We need a German or Chinese version. All the best to you.
          1. -1
            2 October 2023 17: 52
            Quote: Alexander Odintsov
            The Russian people have mastered Christianity perfectly after 80 years of atheism. There is not a single nation in the world where so many Orthodox churches were still built. The rest of what you said is not very clear to me. Capitalism in the American version is deadly dangerous for Russia. We need a German or Chinese version. All the best to you.

            Now I understand that you did not understand.

            From the point of view of Christianity, the people who have “adopted” it cannot have big problems in their inner life. For troubles come from sins.

            But if you think that “building temples” is a sign of the high spirituality of the people, I simply feel sorry for you. For the Russian people were spiritual 80 years ago, but now “with churches” they have lost ground...

            And you, as a “professional” economist, are ashamed not to know where the money for “temples” comes from. The number of which has increased several times. And at the same time, why are they not located at schools and hospitals. The number of which has decreased.

            I wish you to grow up at least a little...... At least to the level of an adult.
            And only after that knowledge in economics may be useful to you........
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              3 October 2023 10: 05
              Have you studied the history of the Church, for example in Tsarist Russia? It is known that after the Provisional Government abolished the mandatory communion of the Holy Mysteries for military personnel, the number of communicants fell tenfold from 100% to 10% (!!!) This difference gives a clear picture between the Orthodox according to the certificate and real Christians. I know where the money for the Temples comes from. I didn't understand your position. Explain your attitude towards the CR, the USSR and Yeltsin’s Russia, then we can talk
      2. 0
        3 October 2023 23: 49
        In China, the planned economy operated within the framework of the “Great Leap Forward” - a massive movement of people from villages with low labor productivity to cities with high productivity. We have already gone through this story and we no longer have the resources for something like this: urbanization in Russia corresponds to European levels.
        In China, the Communist Party is trying to continue dirigisme, but it seems to me that this will only lead to slower growth and stagnation. It makes no sense to think that we will repeat this, the situation is completely different. We need to focus on Australia, Canada or the USA in development recipes, then it will make sense.
        And regarding the “denial of the negation,” let’s turn it around: for 12 years since 2012 we have denied liberalism, Putin will serve another 6 years, and from 2030, according to your iron law of the negation of the negation, we will deny state dirigisme and return to life-giving liberalism. See, in your opinion everything is scientific. “A plan as reliable as a Swiss watch” (c)
    2. 0
      1 October 2023 20: 41
      Quote: Jonny_Su
      Bring back the planned system, which artificially creates shortages and excesses, and some guys on top will decide how much sausage you eat and whether you need toilet paper, or will you make do with newspaper? .....This ritual is a way to consolidate uneducated people in power, ruining even the reincarnation of Russia in the form of the USSR.
      There is no need for such happiness a second time.

      Normal people have troubles simply from thieves, fools and traitors. And because democratic traditions in society are not developed. From servility, when even in the 21st century the president is elected for life, as if he were Tsar Mikhail Romanov.... These simple, mentally normal people will give a kick to the leader who failed - in the first term of office...

      But for the especially gifted, everything is solid! Troubles from the planned system, from Marx..., from collective farms.... laughing

      PS In the primitive USSR in the 50s, the 6th Five-Year Plan in 4 years ensured an increase in GDP by one and a half times. ... It’s true that the motives for which she was stopped are not clear.... Is it really because she “artificially creates” something? Actually, all human civilization is an absolutely artificial matter... and it doesn’t happen in the wild...
  47. 0
    3 October 2023 08: 03
    I wonder how old the author is? At what age did he find the USSR, if at all?
    1. 0
      3 October 2023 10: 07
      A year is enough for me. I worked in the USSR, first at a military plant, then at a research institute. No need for jabs. Speak to the point. All the best.
  48. 0
    3 October 2023 08: 04
    Quote: ivan2022
    From servility, when even at 21 m

    Obviously, you are now writing about yourself?
  49. 0
    3 October 2023 11: 49
    [quote]“The essence of Stalin’s truly historical achievements is that he took Russia with a plow, and left it with nuclear reactors. He raised Russia to the level of the second industrialized country in the world.”/quote]. But some people accepted Russia with nuclear reactors, but would like to leave it with the plow and the oligarchy group...
  50. -1
    3 October 2023 13: 13
    I pray every day that nothing will work out with USSR 2.0. And apparently someone up there hears my prayers. I'm probably not the only one praying about this. I have never seen anything worse, even though I was a teenager. Darkness, dirt and squalor against the backdrop of Buran and achievements in science
    1. -1
      3 October 2023 14: 10
      Everyone sees their own. And everyone prays for their own. I don't remember any dirt. I was an adult and understood that I lived in a great country in which change was ripe. But no one expected its collapse. You will go to the regions and see what is happening there where there is no oil, gas and grain. It was as if there was a war there. And there was War - with its people. What are people praying for? I think prayers have been answered. After 2025 there will be a New Russia and this renaissance of the victory of the provisional government will go to the waste heaps of history. Look at the opinion polls and everything will become clear. All the best.
    2. -1
      3 October 2023 14: 49
      However, there was no such brilliance in big cities. There were not enough goods. There was no freedom of speech. But now there is. But the country is dying out. There is still work to be done on the mistakes. Something has been corrected since then. Something will be fixed now. But the Russian world will consolidate, because if we don’t get into NATO.
  51. 0
    20 November 2023 15: 50
    In the Stalinist USSR, the average growth rate, with the exception of 4 years of war, was 13.8%! And you say something about 6.6%? With the death of Stalin, the USSR began to die, because scum came to power. The inter-sectoral balance was disrupted, abortions were allowed, the Stalinist model of the economy was destroyed, annual price reductions stopped... Everything fell apart. Khruchev was removed, so what? Nothing! The Stalinist economy was never returned, and then, on the ideas of convergence and Eurocommunism, the rotten, rotten “elite” surrendered the country to the enemy. Yakovlev and his team systematically brainwashed the people and deliberately created difficulties for people within the country in the form of bureaucracy, shortages, personnel policies, cronyism, etc., while simultaneously creating a picture of the beauty of life in the West. As a result, when these brutes were destroying the country, the people did not even try to stop it. This is how the Soviet Union was destroyed. And now we are obliged to rethink everything that happened and return to the path of normal development of humanity within the framework of communism, otherwise we will be finished.