Iranian Navy exercise begins in the Strait of Hormuz

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In the Strait of Hormuz on Friday started the exercises of the Iranian Navy. In a strategically important sea artery, through which oil and gas from Arab countries are exported to the West, new rocket launchers will be tested and at the same time rehearse the strait overlap. It is this measure that Tehran has repeatedly threatened to respond to economic sanctions from the United States and the European Union. In Washington, in this scenario, they promise to use force.

"Velayat-91" - under this name are the teachings of the Iranian Navy in the Strait of Hormuz. They will last six days. For European and American politicians, this is another reason to accuse the Islamic Republic of demonstrating force and provocations. The main thing is not even the testing by the Iranian Navy of missile systems and submarines, but the training operation to block the Strait of Hormuz is one of the main sea arteries for exporting raw materials to the West.

"If any forces from outside that are led by the West attempt to disrupt stability in the Strait of Hormuz, Iran will immediately respond. There will be no oil supplies through the strait, either on tankers or on commercial ships. We are responsible for the security of this region and take all the necessary measures to control the Strait of Hormuz, until it overlaps, "said Ismali Kosari, deputy head of the Iranian parliamentary committee on international relations.

Meanwhile, in Washington they still insist that if it does get to close the strait, war with Iran is almost inevitable. Such a position is quite explicable: only tankers with oil from the countries of the Persian Gulf to other regions of the world can pass through the Strait of Hormuz.

Today, about 40 per cent of world oil exports by sea pass along this route: it is about 20 million barrels of black gold per day. It is mined in Qatar, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Also, up to one hundred million cubic meters of liquefied gas is exported daily across the strait. If it is closed, it may be the last straw for the Gulf countries - recently their authorities have criticized Iran more and more.

"The threat from Iran comes simultaneously in many directions. There is a political threat: Iran is constantly interfering in the affairs of the Persian Gulf countries. There is also a threat to the environment because of the work of Iranian enterprises that use nuclear energy. Finally, Iran’s nuclear program itself can lead to conflict, ”says Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Khalid bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa.

Threats to block the Strait of Hormuz in response to sanctions from Western countries have not been heard from Tehran for the first time - this summer the parliament of the Islamic Republic even approved the corresponding bill. And at the end of 2011, previous exercises passed, during which the Iranian military tested long-range missiles. The US Navy, both then and now, chose as a countermeasure a demonstrative passage through the strait of its own ships. This time the choice fell on the nuclear aircraft carrier "John Stennis" and the missile cruiser "Mobile Bay". According to the American press, the Pentagon can increase pressure with the help of a group of ships, which is now in the port of Oman in Salalah. It consists of several landing ships, an aircraft carrier with fighter-attack planes on board and a submarine.
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  1. +9
    29 December 2012 11: 40
    Iran shows strength and does not allow the Anglo-Saxons and sheikhs to relax. And they all look for weaknesses to push the Persians. I wonder who will lose their first nerves? what
    1. +7
      29 December 2012 11: 49
      Nobody's nerves will give up, the main thing is strength and determination. As soon as Iran starts talking about concessions or dialogue with amers, then it will end. The United States acts in the world, like Rome and Carthage, no matter how many concessions you make, but "Carthage must be destroyed."
    2. +13
      29 December 2012 13: 57
      By the way, many laugh with the Persians when they declare their success in defense.
      I wouldn’t get tired of laughing and perceiving the Iranians as screamers who have nothing behind them and antediluvian weapons.

      We all know what NATO is hitting:
      1)Massive blow "Tomahawks" for several days to weeks.
      2) Depending on the situation, immediately or a little later, in a day or two, strategic bombers are used "B-1B Lancer" и "B-2 Spirit".
      3) After all the main gearboxes and air defense batteries are destroyed, deck aviation и marinesthat direct aircraft to bases, warehouses, equipment, remnants of air defense, troop concentrations, etc.
      4) Option c ground operation for complete victory and the elimination of the watered and military leadership of the country.

      So what needs to be done to exclude the first two points, the third and fourth will disappear without air support, and which air defense and air forces are now in service with Iran?

      Iranian Air Force
      Fighters
      saeqeh 24
      Azarakhsh 30
      F-14 Tomcat 44
      MiG-29 35
      Mirage F1 10
      F-7m 24
      Su-25 Sturmovik 13
      Dorna/Tazarv light fighter 25

      Bombers
      Su-24MK Front-line bomber 30
      Douglas F-4 Phantom II Bomber 65
      Northrop F-5 Fighter-bomber 60

      Aircraft radars
      An-140 AWACS 15

      Transport aviation as an air defense does not interest us
      Helicopters and UAVs to reflect the first two points also do not interest us yet.


      Defense
      Rapier SAM 30 PU
      Crotale SAM 30 PU
      MIM-23 Hawk SAM 200 PU
      S-75 ZRK 45 PU
      Sayyad-1 SAM 20 PU Deep modernization of S-75
      Sayyad-2 SAM 60 launchers Deep modernization of S-75, flight range increased to 110 km
      S-200 ZRK 230 PU
      Fajr-8 SAM 30+ PU Deep modernization of S-200
      Bauer-373 SAM 20+ PU Deep modernization of S-300
      2K12 "Cube" SAM 20 PU Protects bases, control centers, airfields and plants
      Tor-M1 ZRK 29 PU Protects bases, control centers, airfields and plants
      Pantsir-S1 ZRK 10 PU Protects bases, control centers, airfields and plants
      Mersad SAM 200+ PU Deep modernization MIM-23 Hawk (with phased radar)

      Mesbah 1 memory 300+ Anti-aircraft gun based on ZU-23-2 (with radar)
      Sa'ir (Saeer) ZU 100+ Anti-aircraft artillery gun based on KS-19 (with radar)

      MANPADS (various types) 3000+ units

      In Iran, defense in depth is layered. There are 6 air defense centers independent of each other and of the Air Force CP of Iran. That is, if one of the CP or air defense centers is lost, the rest will work. About 50-60 fighters are assigned to each center. And it is not known how many more air defense systems delivered by China.
      1. +5
        29 December 2012 14: 46
        In continuation of the foregoing, I can add statistics on NATO aviation losses in other conflicts, where air defense was less effective.

        "Desert Storm" August 2, 1990 - February 28, 1991

        Aircraft
        Tornado 9
        F-16 10
        A-10 6
        AV-8B 6
        A-6 4
        F / A-18 3
        F-15E 3
        OV-10 2
        A-4 1
        AC-130 1
        B-52 1 Strategic Bomber
        C-5 1 Transport
        F-4 / RF-4 2
        F-5 1
        F-14 1
        F-111 / EF-111 2 Tactical Long Range Bomber
        Jaguar 1
        Total: 54 aircraft

        Helicopters
        UH-60 / MH-60 / SH-60 6
        UH-1 5
        AH-1 1
        CH-46 1
        OH-58 1
        Total: 14 helicopters


        "War of independence of Croatia" 1991-1995

        Aircraft
        NATO
        Sea Harrier 1
        F-16C Block 40E 1
        Mirage 2000N 1

        Croatia
        An-2 1
        MiG-21bis 3
        Total: 7 aircraft


        "Allied Force" NATO war against Serbia (1999)

        Aircraft 67
        Helicopters 7
        UAV 30
        Tomahawk 216


        "War in Afghanistan" from October 7, 2001 to the present day

        Aircraft
        C-130 5 Transport
        F-15E 2
        Harrier II 8
        B-1B 1 Strategic Bomber
        C-12 1
        E-2c 1
        F-16 1
        F / A-18 1
        P-3 1
        Mirage 2000 1
        Nimrod 1
        Rafale 1
        Tornado 1
        Total: 25 aircraft

        Convertibles
        CV-22 1
        Total: 1

        Helicopters
        "Chinook" CH-47 / MH-47 / CH-147 / HC.2 25
        "Black Hawk" UH-60 / HH-60 / MH-60 / S-70 16
        "Apache" AH-64 11
        "Kiowa" OH-58 7
        "Sea Stallion" CH-53 / MH-53 5
        "Iroquois" UH-1N / UH-1Y / CH-146 4
        "Super Cobra" AH-1W 4
        "Cougar" AS.532 1
        "Gazelle" SA-342M 1
        "Hind" Mi-24 2
        Total: 76 helicopters

        UAV
        about 52 units different types


        "Shock and Awe" Iraqi War March 20, 2003 - December 15, 2011

        Aircraft
        F-16 5
        F / A-18 5
        C-130 / MC-130 4 Transport
        A-10 1
        AV-8B 1
        F-14 1
        F-15E 1
        series 1
        Tornado 1
        Total: 20 aircraft

        Helicopters
        OH-58 20
        AH-64 15
        UH-60 14
        CH-47 7
        CH-53 / MH-53 7
        AH-1 6
        CH-46 5
        UH-1 3
        Puma 2
        Sea king 2
        AB-412 1
        AH-6 1
        W-3wa 1
        Links 1
        Total: 85 helicopters

        UAV
        about 20 units different types
        1. -8
          29 December 2012 15: 13
          I’m wondering, do you even read anything besides Wikipedia? I don’t think it is a bad source, sometimes it’s good to read it to get a general picture, but I doubt very much that the info on such sensitive and secret questions can be true.
          Since then, not only the Persians, technology has stepped forward, but also among the Amers.
          1. +12
            29 December 2012 16: 36
            I collected information from a different source, pilots' blogs, various sites including the Western media and the Defense Ministry of various countries. Everything except Yugoslavia is confirmed right up to aircraft numbers and pilots' names.

            As for the stepped American Air Force, I do not refute it and do not question it. It is clear that EW directors will work and it is not known how many aircraft Iran can fly into the air. it is also unknown how many generals have already been bought by the Pentagon.
            I can only notice that Iran had just two old AWACS. And now Ukraine has delivered them 15 new +5 contract signed until 2013 total 20 units.
            Also in 2010 Iran bought 50 modernized RD-33 engines for their MiG-29.
            Everything is very complicated and controversial there.

            PS By the way about the wiki, there are links to sources, I can’t tell what helped, but I found several sites, and also downloaded the loss data in pdf format.

            PSS I wonder if you all call on or is it just here in the internet? laughing
            1. +7
              29 December 2012 17: 24
              Quote: Sith Lord
              PSS I wonder if you all call on or is it just here in the internet?
              - He’s a kid, and he also has tre (I don’t know the mats, but it’s probably aptly). He didn’t serve in the army - he doesn’t know the subordinate, he calls you indiscriminately laughing About you, lord of the Sith, so he took you for a senior ensign laughing
              1. -10
                29 December 2012 18: 22
                And I took you for the spirit, which seemed to be sent to flush the toilet, but obviously ran into another slap in the face.
            2. -6
              29 December 2012 18: 21
              Yeah, as I don’t look at YOUR posts, it’s all copy-paste from the wiki everywhere. Without exception. Maybe there are some links to off-sources, but YOU get the info from the wiki.
              1. +3
                29 December 2012 18: 27
                I take TTX from the wiki, because unfortunately there is no such information on the sites. There TTX is more or less complete.
      2. avt
        0
        30 December 2012 17: 41
        It’s not a fact that pend0s dances can catch a smut only on a ground operation due to the terrain and the Persians will be clerical, remember the Iranian Iraq war laughing
    3. Kaa
      +3
      29 December 2012 18: 59
      Quote: RETX
      Iran shows strength and does not allow the Anglo-Saxons and sheikhs to relax. And they all look for weaknesses

      "On alert in the Arabian Sea, the American nuclear aircraft carrier John C. Stennis (CVN-74), accompanied by the missile cruiser Mobile Bay, entered the Persian Gulf after passing the Strait of Hormuz. The US Navy Information Service reports that the aircraft carrier has now abandoned an anchor in the port of Jebel Ali in the UAE, The Associated Press reported. Meanwhile, the US Navy amphibious combat-ready group Peleliyu, located in the Middle East, has entered the Omani port of Salalah in the Arabian Sea. The expeditionary strike group includes the aircraft carrying versatile landing ship Peleliu ", the landing helicopter dock" Green Bay ", the landing transport dock" Rushmore ", a Marine battalion, a special forces unit, a squadron of combat and military transport helicopters, as well as a squadron of vertical takeoff and landing attack aircraft. also includes a nuclear submarine, with a total of about 2,5 marines.in connection with the events, notes that the statement of the commander of the Iranian Navy, Vice Admiral Habibollah Sayyari about the latest missile launcher, increasing the accuracy and range of anti-ship missiles, as well as his words that these new launch systems can be installed on all Iranian ships , and that in the near future these installations will be put on alert, are closely interconnected both with the Iranian naval exercises that have begun, and with the arrival of detachments of American ships in the Persian Gulf. "
      http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1609675.html#ixzz2GS7j5Qs9
      “The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps now has over a thousand ballistic missiles, many of which target US military bases in the Middle East and Europe. The Guardians have also made great strides in developing their intercontinental missile delivery vehicles under the guise of their space program. Previously, warheads capable of carrying nuclear warheads were delivered to the guards, and the spiritual leader of Iran ordered them to install nuclear warheads on missiles. "- Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, experienced intelligence officer, awarded the" Bronze Star ""The Washington Times"
      : http://www.inosmi.ru/asia/20111028/176730988.html#ixzz2GS8HbgcE
      "Iran has an amount of plutonium equivalent to 24 bombs dropped by Americans on Nagasaki."http://www.debka.co.il/article/22615/
  2. +3
    29 December 2012 11: 43
    it smells like kerosene .... maybe suddenly jerk ..... horror, comrades get better, horror becomes more fun .... wassat
    1. 0
      29 December 2012 17: 17
      Gentlemen, be ashamed of what you are arguing, since 1975 Iran has been in an economic boycott, No matter how hard Iran tries, its economy works to the limit, opportunities, Buying any new technologies costs a lot, military, the Government is doing everything to somehow reduce the damage inflicted by economic sanctions, the Yankees know exactly the military potential of Iran, He cares about the other stamina and spirit of the military, Militarily he is very weak, whatever the Iranians themselves say, The only thing that worries the enemies is what the Iranian population will do, Where it will flood, They are Muslims but other than everything around, The long term of sanctions never leads to a rapid economic growth, There is one subtlety Iran is growing younger in comparison with its neighbors, the Yankees are betting on young people, the Iranian government has been managing so far that no one knows what will happen next,
      1. +4
        29 December 2012 19: 12
        Quote: igor.borov775
        Militarily, he is very weak, whatever the Iranians themselves say, The only thing that worries foes is what the Iranian population will do, Where it will flood, They are Muslims but other than everything around, The long term of sanctions never leads to a rapid economic growth, There is one the subtlety of Iran is rapidly growing younger compared to its neighbors, the Yankees are betting on young people, the Iranian government has been managing so far that no one else will know,



        Iran is a powerful regional power, neither politically, economically, nor militarily comparable to Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria. This is a new level of play for democratizers. Are they ready to pass it, are there enough "lives"?

        1. WW3
          WW3
          +2
          29 December 2012 20: 00
          Quote: Ascetic
          This is already a new level of play for democratizers. Are they ready to pass it, are there enough "lives"?

          Ready, only the losses will be critical, the question is whether this local conflict will escalate into the 3rd world ....
          a quote from your video "nothing cheers up the US economy like war" especially in times of crisis ... and now the crisis is the 2nd wave and the specter of default is hovering over the US. The collapse and collapse of the dollar .. the state debt is approaching 17 trillion. dollars ... and the war can write off everything, especially the world one ...
          A good video systematized a lot of useful information ...
          Another quote from the video "Israel is the state of one bomb" .....
          And at the end of the video, interesting information about the agreement between the USSR and Iran of 1940, as well as confirmation that China will be on the side of Iran ...
          1. Beck
            0
            29 December 2012 20: 13
            Quote: WW3
            Ready, only the losses will be critical, the question is whether this local conflict will grow into the 3rd world ...


            May there be no third world because of Iran. It was not the third after the invasion of Russian troops in Georgia. What is the leadership of Russia ready for the sake of the ayatollah of Iran to put 50 million Russians in an atomic war? Rave.

            And the West will not, in case of aggravation of the situation, send ground troops into Iran. In FIG them land. It seems to me, if, that the West will apply tactics as in Libya. Aviation, cruise missiles will bomb all the equipment of the Iranian army and all military infrastructure. And that’s all. And let Iran continue to live as he knows.

            And that China because of the ayatollah, break ties with the United States. Because if you remove the USA now, the Chinese economy will collapse. More than half of Chinese exports are the United States.

            In general, Iran is not a pawn to blow up the Earth because of it.
            1. WW3
              WW3
              +3
              29 December 2012 20: 33
              Quote: Beck
              May there be no third world because of Iran.

              Yes, listen to you, so there will be no third world at all, just because there is nuclear weapons? ... This is wrong, there are many reasons for the occurrence .... and a huge accumulation of forces in the Persian Gulf .... one accidental shot .... and the explosion of a "powder keg"
              Quote: Beck
              It was not the third after the invasion of Russian troops in Georgia.

              Well, you compared the hell with a finger lol , firstly, Georgia itself unleashed aggression, and secondly, how rich is the Borzhomi Gruziya, or maybe wine? lol And Georgia was not a member of NATO;
              Either Iran - huge oil reserves and like a bone in the throat for the West and the pocket Arab regimes of neighbors of oil exporters ...
              Russia does not need missile defense in the Caspian Sea or NATO ships there ....
              Quote: Beck
              then China because of the ayatollah, to break ties with the United States. Because if you remove the USA now, the Chinese economy will collapse.

              This is if the PRC suddenly abruptly withdraws all its dollars from the reserve, what then? China needs Iranian oil like air, export of goods can be reoriented ...
              Quote: Beck
              In general, Iran is not the pawn

              How do you know who will be the first to use nuclear weapons? and what reason will this happen?
              1. Beck
                0
                30 December 2012 09: 16
                Quote: WW3
                Yes, you listen, so the third world will not exist at all, just because there is nuclear weapons?


                Why was there no World War III during the Cold War? Only because of nuclear weapons. Since there were guarantees of complete mutual destruction, whoever started it first. That is, if there is a war, there will be no winner. And now it's the same. That is why, because of Iran, Russia and the United States should destroy each other? For the Ayatollahs to be angry, or what?

                Oil. This is a common misconception and presented in the form of a trump card of some. There is oil in Iran. So in Indonesia, Nigeria, Venezuela, it is also there. Now, because of the sanction, Iran is selling only half of what it can. And the world did not choke on hunger for oil. Other oil producing countries have simply increased their production quotas.

                And then, if you think the United States has nothing more to do than capture oil. It would be easier to capture the oil of Indonesia, Nigeria. And best of all, Venezuela, There will be and will not be overheads for transportation.

                Now China is now compensating Iranian oil with Russian and Indonesian oil. What is bad for Russia? A pipe was laid in China. Or do you close this pipe? Or at least something to you, but only if the West stumbles.
                1. WW3
                  WW3
                  +1
                  30 December 2012 09: 46
                  Quote: Beck
                  Why was there no third world war during the Cold War? Only because of nuclear weapons.

                  Beck, I knew that you would say this, even wrote this your thought above in your post ... what
                  Beck, let’s look at the video above that Ascetic posted, and then continue if there are questions ... everything that you wrote there are answers to the video ..... hi
                  1. Beck
                    0
                    30 December 2012 11: 37
                    Quote: WW3
                    Beck, let's see the video above that Ascetic posted


                    Nothing would happen if Iran abandoned the intention to possess nuclear weapons. Those who want to establish a new Islamic order around the world, the default psycho. Those who want to kill the United States and Russia, by default, crazy. Those who declare that it is necessary to destroy any state, by default psychos. Those who live in the 21st century according to the canons of Sharia, are by default psychos. And the name of these psychos is ayatollahs.

                    Crazies are not given permission to own hunting weapons. How to give into the hands of psychos-ayatollah nuclear weapons.

                    Pakistan has nuclear weapons. But he never called for the destruction of other states, did not threaten to circumcise the whole world. Therefore, the world community is calm about Pakistani nuclear weapons.

                    Iran will refuse from nuclear weapons. And everything will be fine. Will not refuse to face the opposition of the world community. And only because of the orthodox ayatollah can the Iranian people suffer.

                    If you are for the right that Iran may possess nuclear weapons. Then you must recognize the right to possess nuclear weapons in the Baltic states, the republics of the Caucasus, the republics of Central Asia. What will become easier for Russia to live? And what if nuclear Iran wants to help extremists in the North Caucasus. How will you stop. Of course, stop, but the victims will be disproportionate.
                    1. ozs
                      ozs
                      +1
                      30 December 2012 13: 12
                      Some kind of porridge.
                      Iran needs nuclear weapons like air and a guarantee of security.
                      How much has the US and NATO unleashed a warrior in the last 20 years?
                      How much has Iran unleashed?
                      Now the question is, which of them are crazy?
                      Iran did not bomb Yugoslavia and Libya for democracy.

                      And extremists from the North Caucasus, Iran has never helped. And first of all, pocket monarchies of the Middle East helped.
                      So you tie up with this propaganda that Iran is a state of psychos. And it’s from the region that Russians walk along the street with bears in an embrace.
                      1. Beck
                        -1
                        30 December 2012 15: 51
                        Quote: ozs
                        Iran needs nuclear weapons like air and a guarantee of security.


                        Mongolia will state tomorrow.

                        In view of the geopolitical location of the country and given that Mongolia is located between Russia and China with nuclear weapons, the Government of Mongolia declares the following:
                        In view of preserving its sovereignty and having all international rights, Mongolia will build, with the help of the DPRK, an atomic reactor with the goal of producing weapons-grade plutonium. In order, if necessary, to repel possible aggression, no matter what side it comes from. At the same time, Mongolia declares that its nuclear weapons will be directed primarily against the United States.


                        As they say, get and sign. Is Russia like this, even in a dream, is it really necessary? Roughly the same situation with Iran. Only there she is weighed down by psychopaths ayatollahs.
                      2. ozs
                        ozs
                        0
                        30 December 2012 22: 24
                        It’s good to rush with stamps that they are crazy.
                        I already wrote to you above, who are the psychos and who how much the warrior has unleashed.
                        Something I can’t recall that the states bordering Mongolia were forcibly democratized.
                        Maybe you know those?
                        But Iran just borders on two of these. And almost every month they promise to forcibly democratize Iran.
                      3. +1
                        30 December 2012 23: 57
                        Sorry dear Beck, the thought or theory that you set forth in your opinion (well, even ashamed to call nonsense) Have you ever been to Mongolia or communicated with its inhabitants? At one time, the Mongols themselves considered it the 16th republic. And now they live with us as good friends and neighbors and do not ask for humanitarian assistance for the Ministry of Internal Affairs (like some) But on the account of China, they hope for a big brother (Russia) that he will not throw a friend how they did not leave us in World War II
                      4. Beck
                        0
                        31 December 2012 16: 56
                        What's next to brainwash laziness. Instead of Mongolia, I could bring any other country bordering Russia. Therefore, I say whether Russia needs Finland to have nuclear weapons.
                    2. avt
                      +1
                      30 December 2012 17: 50
                      Beck, think about the idea that the nuclear program of the packs was supervised by amers, and the Saudis gave the money to the impoverished country. Question, is Saudi Arabia a vigorous power like Israel or not? bully
                      1. Beck
                        0
                        30 December 2012 19: 19
                        Quote: avt
                        Beck, think about the idea that the nuclear program of the packs was supervised by amers, and the Saudis gave the money to the impoverished country. Question, is Saudi Arabia a vigorous power like Israel or not?


                        Yeah. I can’t answer. Who are the packs? If this is North Korea, then how could the Amers supervise them, and the Saudis give money. To answer this you need to explain the story from the end of the Second World War. And for this there will not be enough format. D and I have no desire.
                      2. WW3
                        WW3
                        +3
                        30 December 2012 19: 51
                        Quote: Beck
                        Yeah. I can’t answer. Who are the packs? If this is North Korea, how could amers curate them?

                        wassat It meant Pakistan and its nuclear program .... Beck, you yourself got confused in your comments on this topic ... what can be said, you cannot avoid that ...
                      3. Beck
                        0
                        30 December 2012 20: 34
                        Quote: WW3
                        It meant Pakistan and its nuclear program .... Beck, you yourself got confused in your comments on this topic ... what can be said, you cannot avoid that ...


                        I’m not confused. Russian language komenty should be written, not slang. I, too, can give out such a thing, only who will understand.
                      4. WW3
                        WW3
                        +1
                        30 December 2012 23: 59
                        Quote: Beck
                        I’m not confused.

                        yeah .... confuse Pakistan with North Korea wink
                        Quote: Beck
                        Russian language komenty should be written, not slang.

                        This is not for me, I wrote everything to you in Russian, you too started past the topic ...
                        Quote: Beck
                        I, too, can give out such a thing, only who will understand.

                        What for,
                        P / S You just need to realize that nuclear weapons are not a factor preventing the outbreak of World War 3, but rather the temptation to deliver the first blow .... the nuclear club has expanded, as you know .... [img = right] http: // smayls.ru/]
                      5. Beck
                        0
                        31 December 2012 16: 59
                        Quote: WW3
                        yeah .... confuse Pakistan with North Korea


                        The other day, the seam stated that he did not care that he had muddied his veins.

                        Now understand and understand what I wrote. Just like a pack.
                      6. WW3
                        WW3
                        +2
                        31 December 2012 20: 54
                        Quote: Beck
                        The other day, the seam stated that he did not care that he had muddied his veins.

                        Now understand and understand what I wrote. Just like a pack.

                        Beck, mine is yours - don't understand! laughing
          2. Kaa
            +3
            29 December 2012 21: 21
            Quote: WW3
            interesting information about the contract between the USSR and Iran of 1940

            1940 - this is a contract on trade and shipping, but before it two interesting and relevant (not denounced) were:
            "1") S.-i. d. 1921 on the establishment of friendly relations - signed 26. II in Moscow, People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs of the RSFSR G.V. Chicherin and the Iranian Ambassador Moshaver-ol-Memalek (Ali Goli Khan Ansari). Providing for the possibility of attempts by third powers to implement an aggressive policy in Iran or use the territory of Iran as a springboard for a military attack on the RSFSR or on its allied states, the parties agreed that, "if the Persian government, after a warning from the Russian Soviet government, itself is not in a position to ward off this danger, the Russian Soviet government will have the right to send its troops into the territory of Persia in order to take the necessary measures in the interests of self-defense "(Art. 6 S.-i. .). S.-i. d. 1927 on guarantee and neutrality - signed 1. X in Moscow, People's Commissar of Foreign Affairs of the USSR G.V. Chicherin and Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Goli Khan Ansari. S.-i. The settlement was concluded for a three-year term with its automatic renewal each time for another year, until one of the parties declares its desire to withdraw from the contract. 1 The USSR and Iran, confirming that the basis of their relationship remains the Soviet-Iranian agreement of 1921, pledged to refrain from any aggressive actions against each other and not to bring their military forces into the territory of the other side (except as provided for in Article 6 of the Soviet-Iranian Treaty of 1921)... If one of the parties is involved in a conflict with a third power or powers, then the other side, as well as the attacked one, will observe strict neutrality towards each other (Art. 2 and Protocol No. 2). According to Art. 3 The Soviet Union and Iran pledged "not to participate, either in fact or formally, in political alliances or agreements directed against the security on land or at sea of ​​the other contracting party," as well as against its integrity, independence and sovereignty. In addition, the parties agreed not to participate in economic boycotts and blockades organized by third powers against one of themhttp://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dic_diplomatic/1152/
            So what the hell DAM banned the delivery of the S-300 at the time ?????
            1. WW3
              WW3
              +3
              29 December 2012 21: 41
              Quote: Kaa
              1940 - this is a contract on trade and shipping, but before it two interesting and relevant (not denounced) were:

              Kaa I do not argue, I commented on the Ascetic video, look at the video from 38-33 and 39-20 to 39-57 there they are talking about the 1940 agreement and in passing from 1921 ... hi
              1. Kaa
                +1
                29 December 2012 21: 52
                Quote: WW3
                they talk about the 1940 treaty there

                Yes, I don’t argue what right the LADIES had NOT to SELL the S-300, that is the question. Well, now it seems that the VVP has been honored with Iskander ... hi
                1. +2
                  30 December 2012 01: 15
                  Quote: Kaa
                  Yes, I don’t argue what right the LADIES had NOT to SELL the S-300, that is the question. Well, now it seems like the Iskander is honored with the GDP.



                  Get it right once. It has long been said in informed circles that the export of Russian arms to the Middle East is "ruled" by Israel through its lobby in the Defense Ministry and the government. ... It was under pressure from Tel Aviv that Moscow changed its mind about supplying S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Iran. Moreover, under very vague circumstances and to the great joy of the Israeli leadership, this weapon was included in the list of military equipment that the UN Security Council banned from supplying Tehran. Even despite the fact that the S-300 is a purely defensive weapon and did not fall under sanctions in any way. In many ways, a similar situation is developing in our military-technical relations with Syria, which, by the way, we refused back in 2003 under pressure from the same Israel to sell Igla portable anti-aircraft missile systems.
                  Israel also "strongly recommended" Russia to no longer supply Yakhonts to Syria. Even before the invasion of the Georgian army into South Ossetia in August 2008, Moscow asked the Israelis not to supply military equipment to Saakashvili's army. Were our request taken into account? No! And someone lobbied a deal with a UAV with "bookmarks"? And if you just suggest, show me your nuclear arsenals? The pose of the offended person, worked out for centuries, is immediately adopted with universal grief in his eyes.
                  Experts have calculated that due to Russia's refusal to export military equipment to the Middle Eastern countries "at Israel's request," our state treasury missed the chance to receive about $ 20 billion. Maybe we received political profit for this from cooperation with Israel, but not either. By the way, about Iskanders, the first infa came from Israeli sources. And the concern about the alleged sale of S-300 by Belarus is also from there.
                  Moreover, apart from the Iskander, all these weapons are defensive.
                  1. ozs
                    ozs
                    0
                    30 December 2012 13: 15
                    Yes, unfortunately, the reality is the way you set it out.
                    And hurray, the patriots rejoice in a dozen new aircraft, forgetting that Russia has finally lost its sovereignty.
            2. avt
              0
              30 December 2012 17: 56
              You make your question funny. Well, right, I will give and treaties of the USSR and also the relationship and succession? laughing
          3. 0
            1 January 2013 08: 35
            For such matters, there’s just a little topple Syria. It’s easier to say that the door to Iran is wide open.
  3. -2
    29 December 2012 11: 51
    The main thing is to keep Iran on a starvation diet, it is necessary to be friends, but Iran and we can get sideways with nuclear weapons.
    1. +5
      29 December 2012 12: 16
      Nuclear Iran is the key to stability on our southern borders.
      May our nuclear state friendly to us be better than a fragmented country with Alkaida bases.
      1. Cartoon
        -3
        29 December 2012 12: 29
        This bad Iran will betray us at the first danger am
        1. +5
          29 December 2012 12: 46
          Iran has found too many enemies for itself, it is not in a position to betray someone. And the Persians do not look like the characters of YouTube videos shooting and shouting "abracadabra" through the word lol
          PS Pakistan also has nuclear weapons, but the country then supports terrorists ...
        2. sefirs
          -4
          29 December 2012 13: 12
          Quote: Cartoon

          This bad Iran will betray us at the first danger
  4. +3
    29 December 2012 12: 12
    To the West, Iran was sewn in the anus and located on the strategic routes of oil transportation, and it is not deprived of oil itself. If Iran were not in Africa, Iran would quickly lag behind.
    1. +2
      29 December 2012 22: 11
      Quote: Smac111
      West Iran like an awl in the anus

      Very accurate remark. If we talk about the Strait of Hormuz and its relationship with Iran, then two more important points must be added here. The first is the geographical location of the Strait of Hormuz. The second is the role of Iran in the joint management of this strategic waterway in accordance with international law and its sovereign national rights.
      The movement of ships through the Strait of Hormuz has always been carried out in cooperation with the naval forces of Iran, which consist mainly of regular naval forces and the fleet of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. In fact, the Iranian naval forces control and maintain order in the Strait of Hormuz together with the Sultanate of Oman through the Omani exclave of Musandam. But another thing is more important. To pass through the Strait of Hormuz, all ships, including the US Navy, must sail through Iranian territorial waters. Almost all entrances to the Persian Gulf go through Iranian waters, and most of the exits from it go through the waters of Oman.
      Iran allows foreign ships to use their territorial waters on a voluntary basis, as well as on the basis of part III of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea on the Transit Passage of Ships. It says that ships can freely pass through the Strait of Hormuz and other bodies of water with the goal of continuous, quick and unhindered transit from an open port to the open sea and vice versa. Although Tehran generally follows maritime law practice, it is not legally required to do so. Like Washington, Tehran signed the treaty, but did not ratify it.
  5. Cartoon
    +3
    29 December 2012 12: 20
    Provocation of the USA and Saudi Arabia. Definitely. Like, if you block the strait, war cannot be avoided. Pont take negative
  6. +2
    29 December 2012 12: 48
    Quote: "Meanwhile, Washington continues to assure that if it does come to blocking the strait, a war with Iran is almost inevitable."
    That's just the war with Iran will block the bay tightly and reliably.
    1. 0
      31 December 2012 00: 08
      but wonder how long the world will last without Middle Eastern oil? if the Iranians stupidly throw a strait with mines (2 thousand at least taking into account their fleet - probably two three days for setting)
  7. Beck
    +2
    29 December 2012 12: 52
    Iran, led by orthodox ayatollahs, had a dime a dozen or more above the roof from the feet of shocking calls and slogans. Here are some of them.

    "The USA is a big Satan, Russia is a small Satan. First we will slaughter the big Satan, then the little Satan."

    "There will be a third world war. Iran will win. And it will establish a New Islamic Order in the whole world." (I mean, the Ayatollahs will cut off the whole world).

    "The State of Israel must be destroyed, the Jews must be drowned in the sea."

    Block the Strait of Hormuz from the same opera. That’s how and how they will block Hormuz? Well, they will throw mines and put their boats across the strait. And, that it will be an indestructible castle forever and ever. Yes, with modern technology, ships of the West may not even appear on the horizon of Iranian boats. Aviation, cruise missiles and drones will make a small underwater deposit of metal debris at the bottom of the strait from Iran’s boats. And then one minesweeper will catch all the mines.

    And Iran’s naval exercises with yapping threats are the next PONTS of inadequate Ayatollahs.
    1. +4
      29 December 2012 17: 32
      Nifiga, As far as I remember, Ayatollahs do not scatter words like that ,, Ayatollahs in all this chatter are the most respected people of the country, By the way, even Muslim preachers hate them, They are very modest people we would like to be like that, They have no wealth, all gifts go only to the poor population, so that these freaks are crazy in the eyes of the rich mules, One ayatola found his own apartments, he immediately passed away, All this was published here, but I don't remember exactly when, There was a review here on the REPUBLIC of IRAN,
  8. zambo
    +2
    29 December 2012 14: 02
    If it were "show-off", then Iran would have suffered the fate of Iraq long ago. We are really afraid of an adequate response from Iran, especially since the internal situation in the UGA is now far from favorable for another adventure.
    1. Beck
      -4
      29 December 2012 14: 24
      Quote: zamboy
      If it were "show-off", then Iran would have suffered the fate of Iraq long ago. we are really afraid of an adequate response from Iran,


      Yes, Iran has not yet crossed those facets that the West considers unacceptable. Therefore, it simply listens to the ayatollahs, with their pack, yapping.
  9. StrateG
    +2
    29 December 2012 14: 15
    "The USA is a big Satan, Russia is a small Satan. First we will slaughter the big Satan, then the little Satan."


    Russia is not only 1 \ 6 light, but also 5 \ 6 darkness. (c) Unknown author
    1. Beck
      0
      29 December 2012 14: 27
      The point is not in parts. The point is that the ayatollahs can say this to the whole world.

      If someone claims to kill someone, then according to Russian and Kazakhstani laws this is already a threat of murder and there is criminal liability for this.
      1. 0
        29 December 2012 17: 35
        There are a lot of meanings, but you need to know such things for sure. Let a specialist in IRAN write
  10. WW3
    WW3
    +3
    29 December 2012 17: 57
    What will happen if the Strait of Hormuz is blocked?
    1. Oil prices will skyrocket, which is beneficial to other exporters in particular Russia ....
    2. A cool sobering click on the nose of the United States and pocket pro-Amerian regimes of the Persian Gulf oil exporters ....
    IRAN MILITARY POWER 2012

  11. WW3
    WW3
    +3
    29 December 2012 18: 45
    Some theories that the third world will begin around Iran ... and now the video has been made ....
    The compositions of the warring parties .... on the one hand, the USA, Israel, France and Great Britain ... on the other hand, Russia, China, Iran ... Turkey really was included here (+ -?) Well, Pakistan, of course, was mistakenly included in this coalition. ...
    Events will unfold around the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and the Iranian nuclear program ....
    Why China will get involved - it is one of the main consumers of Iranian oil .... By the way ... May 8, 2012 China began to pay for oil supplied from Iran, in yuan. This was reported by Reuters, citing a representative of the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Dollar silk ...
  12. sadqwsaff
    0
    29 December 2012 20: 13
    Have you heard what our authorities are doing again ??? Now everything became known, all the information about each resident of Ukraine, Russia and the CIS countries.
    I just found this base on the Internet smll.co/aVq1c3,
    and most importantly, they did something like searching for lost relatives, but here is all the information about each of us:
    Correspondence with friends, addresses, phone numbers, place of work, and the worst thing is even my exposure of photos
    (I really don't know from where ...). In general, I was very scared - but there is such a function as "hide data"
    Of course I took advantage and I advise everyone not to hesitate, you never know
    1. WW3
      WW3
      +3
      29 December 2012 20: 18
      Quote: sadqwsaff
      Have you heard what our authorities are doing again ??? Now everything became known, all the information about each resident of Ukraine, Russia and the CIS countries.

      This is pure spam and money scam! ....tongue
  13. 0
    29 December 2012 21: 34
    The US is in trouble right now ... the war seems to be postponed, unless they push Israel! They have a new problem "fiscal cliff", which is not done with finances - that's all ...........