Does Russia face the European Union with the Asian Tigers?

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In the last decade of the outgoing year in Russia, a significant event took place in the economic sphere. This event is the launch of the second line of the East Siberia - Pacific Ocean oil pipeline. President Vladimir Putin took part in the event as a videoconference. The project is called “ESPO-2” and connects the Amur transport hub Skovorodino and the seaside oil port Kozmino with a pipe for pumping oil. The length of the branch is more than 2-x thousand kilometers and will allow to deliver oil from the East Siberian fields directly to the Pacific coast, where oil tankers are already at the ready and waiting for hydrocarbons to be loaded to the APEC countries.

You can, of course, begin to sprinkle your head with ashes and say that, say, another child of the raw material economy; the advanced countries have long been moving to an innovative, high-tech product-producing economic system, and we are putting all the pipes here ... On the one hand, the raw material priority of the Russian economy also manifested itself in the implementation of the ESPO-2 project, but at the same time, this project The branch of the pipeline for the East Siberian and Far Eastern regions may well be called a positive phenomenon. After all, the laying of a multi-kilometer artery for the distillation of EPSO oil, which, according to experts, is of higher quality than the oil from the depths of the Gulf countries, automatically causes the development of infrastructure. And with the infrastructure in these regions, everything is not at all cloudless ...

One may be ironic about the fact that Russia is once again attacking the same commodity rake, but if this rake allows hundreds of thousands of people to provide stable work and income, then abandoning them in the midst of a periodically manifested economic crisis would simply be groundless. One should not forget that recently they are actively talking about the development of the Far East. And what's wrong with the fact that an oil transportation network appears here, the intensity of operation of which determines the level of investment in the region, and hence the well-being of the entire region.

Before you think about whether there are any other advantages to the new oil line Skovorodino-Kozmino, besides increasing the number of jobs in the region, you should touch stories the entire ESPO project. And the story of this project was not even born yesterday.
Since the end of the 70s, when the world was experiencing a real oil boom, and the prices for “black gold” unexpectedly for many jumped many times, Moscow began to carry out a plan to build an oil branch in the direction of the Pacific Ocean. At that time, the concept of “powerful Chinese economy” did not exist yet, but in the region another economy stood out - the economy of the Land of the Rising Sun. It was planned to send tankers delivered to the Soviet ports of the Pacific oil in Japan and some other countries (China was also considered as one of the options, but, apparently, far from being a priority). However, the Soviet Union was unable to implement such an ambitious project that would open the gates to East Asia and supply the country’s budget with substantial additions.

But after the collapse of the USSR, the project was not completely buried. Russian business, which although in its infancy, already understood a great deal about how to extract substantial profits, began to promote a project to build an oil pipeline capable of connecting the East Siberian fields to the ports of the Pacific Ocean and cities on the Russian-Chinese border.

The pipeline promotion baton was grasped by Yukos Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who (Khodorkovsky) noticed the booming Chinese economy and predicted that in a few years China might need several times more oil than at the time of the end of 90's. Based on such predictions, Khodorkovsky decided to enlist the support of the Chinese side in the face of the leadership of the state-owned company China Nation Petroleum Corporation (CNPC). The first negotiations on the construction of a branch of the pipeline stretching from the fields of Eastern Siberia to the Amur cities of China were held at 1999, and a couple of years later an agreement was signed on laying the pipe from Angarsk to Daqing. The signatures of the 2001 model agreement were put on: from the Chinese side - Chairman of the Celestial Kingdom Jiang Zemin, and from the Russian Federation - Chairman of the Government Mr. Kasyanov.

How precisely the agreement between Russia and China was fulfilled from a financial point of view in the future is already a matter for another material. But ... But the agreement between Moscow and Beijing opened another page in regional geopolitics, somewhat stirring Tokyo. Indeed, in Japan, they were well aware of the USSR’s plans to create an oil transportation system in the direction of the ports of the Pacific Ocean. In 2002-2003, the real struggle for Russian oil broke out between China and Japan, because both countries urgently needed energy resources that could be obtained from Russia to develop their economies.

For obvious reasons, such a fight between Beijing and Tokyo was only on the hand of Russia. As a “goodwill gesture” in 2002, Moscow offered to build an oil pipeline not only from Angarsk to Daqing, but also to Nakhodka. There, according to the plan, the delivered oil should be met by tankers and in large quantities be driven to Japan. The Japanese authorities were satisfied with this decision and put their signatures under the project, which meant large investments.

Ultimately, the project was transformed into ESPO, according to which the starting point for a number of reasons (including environmental issues on Lake Baikal) was transferred by Transneft to the city of Taishet, and on December 31 of the Russian Federation by order of the Cabinet of Ministers of the Russian Federation The design and construction of two branches began: Taishet-Skovorodino and Skovorodino - the Bay of Kazmina (port on the Pacific Ocean).

As soon as the order to start the development and construction was signed, I decided to break into the process and the player, whom no one here expected to see at all. This player, and a disgruntled player, was the European Union. It would seem, moreover, here is the Far Eastern region and Brussels, but, as it turned out, it’s even more so ... EU politicians were very alarmed by the fact that Russia is going to deploy its raw material machine in a different direction. Obviously, by the 2004 of the year, Europe had already become accustomed to the idea that it was the main consumer of Russian hydrocarbons, and therefore could consider Russian oil reserves in Siberia to be almost its own ... However, Moscow made a move that showed that in the current volatile world seek and alternative consumers.

As soon as such consumers in the face of a number of APEC states were identified, the Europeans became seriously worried. According to them, Russian oil, in case of its export to China and Japan, may not be enough for Mother Europe. They say that Russia does not develop new fields, and if it does, it is too slow to load oil pipelines of both western and eastern directions.

However, Russia today proves that there is enough oil, development has been carried out in a timely manner, and pipes can be built in any directions. And the most interesting thing is that after entering both branches (ESPO-1 and ESPO-2), Russia gains leverage of certain control over its neighbors. After all, someone says that only the Russian Federation is in the most powerful commodity dependence. Is not it? And unless those to whom we export oil, in this dependence are not? ..
Yes, the same China is already forced to build giant underground storage facilities that will allow it to survive a couple of months of the largest financial and energy crisis. And then what? .. In Russia, such repositories exist by nature, and it is foolish to say that it does not give Russia the tools to stabilize its own economy and the means for more, let's say, effective dialogue with partners.

Those APEC countries that have supported the Russian project ESPO-2 with both hands, today, whether they want it or not, fall into a very strong raw material dependence on Moscow. What is the strategy to solve geopolitical problems? After all, today any state in the world is ready to use the forces and means to fight for a place under the sun, which they have. Americans have a dollar ... Let the flimsy, staggering, but being the main reserve currency ... And with the help of this flimsy dollar, dozens of states are dependent on the US.

And Russia has natural energy resources. And this, it must be admitted, is a much more essential tool for “business talk” both now and in the future, rather than at the insane pace of printed gray-green paper rectangles. So if the resources with each year have more weight, then why not try to achieve their geopolitical and economic goals with their help? The case when you can chase after two hares, and get both ...

PS China declares that it is ready to buy from Russia three times larger volumes of oil than those that Russia sells to the Middle Kingdom today. Russia, Taiwan, South Korea, Malaysia, the United States, the Philippines and other countries in the Asia-Pacific region have signed contracts for the supply of crude oil.

In addition to selling oil, which came to Primorye along the ESPO-2, abroad, a project of an oil refinery near Vladivostok is being implemented, which (refinery) will produce high-quality fuel for domestic consumers.
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  1. +21
    29 December 2012 09: 21
    Enough to be shy of their resources, the West will soon develop an inferiority complex due to the fact that we have a country rich in mineral resources. Europeans want to diversify supplies, well, please, in the east our oil and gas are also waiting, let's see who runs to whom when the ass freezes.
    1. +10
      29 December 2012 09: 40
      It’s not necessary to be ashamed of wealth, it’s a shame only to trade it raw (without processing) .... Not to mention that we have nothing to offer besides them.
      1. +11
        29 December 2012 09: 51

        Here you are:

        In addition to selling oil, which came to Primorye along the ESPO-2, abroad, a project of an oil refinery near Vladivostok is being implemented, which (refinery) will produce high-quality fuel for domestic consumers.

        And there, you look, and it will reach the outside. Dashing trouble is the beginning
        1. +8
          29 December 2012 23: 36
          The myth about the "raw material appendage" was developed by enemy propaganda so that we would have a feeling of inferiority and inferiority. In fact, these Western countries have long been "technological appendages", and we are an energy giant.
        2. 0
          2 January 2013 16: 31
          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          And there, you look, and will reach the external

          It would be great.
          It would also be better if the currency came to the country from other sources. And oil would remain for domestic consumption.
          That not only children, but also grandchildren with great-grandchildren had enough.
      2. +10
        29 December 2012 10: 14
        Quote: Greyfox
        we have nothing to offer for export

        What to offer is enough and enough, but ...
        Either steel is not like this, then airplanes are not so noisy. It is not only a matter of technology and technology, there is politics here so that ...
      3. sincman
        +7
        29 December 2012 13: 27
        Well, not all at once ... Quickly the fairy tale affects, but not quickly the thing is done!
        Over time, hands will reach this. And now budget funds are still needed both for the development of the army and navy (so that resources continue to be ours), and for social programs so that people do not complain. You need to consider everything in a complex. They’ll sort it out with the Central Bank, stop buying American bonds, and then add. funds for infrastructure development. Work is going on in all directions, and the budget is not rubber!
      4. +2
        29 December 2012 22: 46
        only to trade them raw (without processing) is a shame

        For processing plants are needed. Factories need money. Where is the money, Zin?
        Indeed, in the country there are no heaps of plants, heaps of pipelines, heaps of money - and everyone is just waiting for someone to buy something. Everything must be done at the same time, as we can.
        1. +2
          31 December 2012 13: 19
          In Kirishi., Near St. Petersburg, a refining plant of our oil has just been built in an oppressive size. Scandinavians will have to lay out money already for the final product! By definition, their plants will not be able to compete with us; where are the duties? And that plant is not an isolated phenomenon at all.
          There is money and brains available ....
    2. +23
      29 December 2012 09: 48
      Greetings colleague Vladimirets,
      Earlier, in a comment that was removed by an unnamed "well-wisher", I mentioned a fact that confirms that Russia is no longer shy about its resources and related capabilities.
      The EU demanded from Transneft (demanded am !) of the report on "EU energy security measures"! fool ! To which the head of Transneft quite reasonably, calmly and confidently replied that "... We don't owe them anything." lol and "That now, after the launch of the ESPO, the oilmen feel quite comfortable, in comparison with the times when Europe talked to them through the lip (the expression is his!), dictating the terms and volumes of deliveries to Europe"
      So what-Eh ... "Who are the interim ministers?! Get down!" (sailor Zheleznyak)
      1. +7
        29 December 2012 09: 59
        Good day, Yesaul.
        Quote: esaul
        The EU demanded from Transneft (demanded!) A report on "measures to ensure the EU's energy security"! ! To which the head of Transneft quite reasonably, calmly and confidently replied that "... We do not owe them anything" and "That now, after the launch of the ESPO, the oilmen feel quite comfortable, in comparison with the times when Europe was talking with them through the lip (the expression is his!), dictating the terms and volumes of deliveries to Europe "

        didn't know that, thanks. And in fact, why the hell should we worry and, moreover, ensure the security of Europe? Well, do we have oil and what do we cry for now? It is necessary to sell it while the price is good, it is not yet known which energy carriers the planet will move on to.
        1. +6
          29 December 2012 11: 30
          So we EU on our raw drug addicted, they eggs energy security is squeezed in our strong hands. Roles have changed, it’s our turn to set conditions bully
    3. nutmeg
      -15
      29 December 2012 17: 44
      the author could write, at what price China will buy oil from Russia .... by chance for no $ 80. for the barrel? The pushers of Lbama ... You can die for laughter ... strategists laughing
      1. speedy
        +9
        29 December 2012 20: 20
        Quote: nutmeg
        the author could write, at what price China will buy oil from Russia .... by chance for no $ 80. for the barrel? The pushers of Lbama ... You can die for laughs ... strategists laughing

        Your laughter is like a tantrum. In China, the world has not converged, there are Japan, Taiwan, and many others who want it ... and where did you dig about 80 dollars in England? Or left without Iranian oil, you are afraid to receive less Russian
        Quote: nutmeg
        laughing strategists
        ?
        1. +5
          29 December 2012 20: 41
          Greetings speedy, hi
          Quote: short-term
          Your laughter is like a tantrum

          No words good
          Quote: short-term
          Or left without Iranian oil, you are afraid to receive less Russian

          Scared, scared Yes

          Nabucco gas pipeline ordered to live long

          http://nstarikov.ru/blog/18239

          Putin: Britain and Scandinavia are interested in Nord Stream»

          http://www.vz.ru/news/2012/6/1/581718.print.html

          Quote: nutmeg
          The pushers of Lbama ... You can die for laughter ... strategists

          It turns out ...! We can when we want! laughing
        2. nutmeg
          -3
          29 December 2012 22: 26
          The Americans are already extracting gas from shale, and soon shale oil will begin. So there will be an excess of oil from here and low prices will start. I remember yours about 5 years ago they waved a hand in the direction of America, like a hundred years before them with shale gas ... So, as Deribaska himself said, we had five years left full of life. Among other things, the northern stream is only half full ...
          1. +4
            29 December 2012 22: 58
            soon and shale oil will begin

            Well, very good. There was already a forecast that with the development of shale oil production, America would again come to the industrial revolution, which would reduce the position of China. China will weaken a little, which is not harmful to us. Calm down. US production in terms of cheap raw materials will receive a powerful impetus. Years so on 15-20 wink
            Well, then, gentlemen, you will understand that geopolitics is planned not for 20 years, but longer. And our oil will still be very necessary for you. And we will agree on the price wink
            1. nutmeg
              -5
              29 December 2012 23: 47
              we will agree, we will agree and where will you go if we don’t agree? Indeed, in addition to energy resources, it’s not so much more than bragging. Well, I’ll find that there will be in 20 years, so I can definitely say one thing, every second car will be an electric car ...... so that it would be easier to negotiate wink
          2. Kostya pedestrian
            +1
            30 December 2012 17: 20
            Gentleman, you just, dear, Derebasco did not understand; The Russian language is multifaceted! Most likely, he meant that we have five years left to eat your western pig until horns and hooves are left of it. Not according to your scenario, be patient, like donors of "Horns and Hooves" for your own freaks, whom you so diligently pulled out of the swamp.
          3. +1
            1 January 2013 02: 22
            Shale gas as well as shale oil are cost-effective only in the upper boards. And those will quickly be exhausted.
      2. +1
        29 December 2012 22: 53
        by accident for 80 dollars. for the barrel?

        wholesalers discounts wink
    4. lotus04
      +3
      30 December 2012 06: 58
      Does Russia face the European Union with the Asian Tigers?


      No! Nothing personal. Only business. As they (the west), we were taught.
    5. 0
      2 January 2013 20: 15
      The same thing needs to be done with electricity.
  2. +5
    29 December 2012 09: 56

    And Russia has natural energy resources. And this, I must admit, is a much more essential tool for a "business conversation" both now and in the future, than at an insane pace printed gray-green paper rectangles. So if resources have more weight every year, then why not try to achieve their geopolitical and economic goals with their help.

    And most importantly, it is necessary to be able to protect this tool from democratizers, who in their immediate childish naivety consider Russian subsoil a global (read Amarikano-European) property
  3. borisst64
    +5
    29 December 2012 10: 07
    China has big problems with energy resources. A couple of years ago I read that the constructed aluminum plant is not working, NO ELECTRICITY. A country that depends on our supplies is not only stronger friends, but also compromises on occasion.
    1. +10
      29 December 2012 11: 36
      And then another world monster enters the scene - ROSATOM / Who has the most reliable reactors? Who builds on time? In in.
      1. +2
        29 December 2012 15: 53
        not enough electricity? every year I observe an increase in the number of power lines in the direction of China from the Amur region, where there are two! Hes !! and the local population pays for electricity more than in other regions, where electricity also goes!
    2. Kostya pedestrian
      +1
      30 December 2012 17: 28
      The Chinese are very wise people, and by the way, for them the compromise is normal market relations, and not an excuse to play with muscles, not like Europe, which, using the WTO (Chermet) implements double standards for natives like us-Russians, and artificially inflates the cost of know-how -how, and tries to lower the work force and resources by all means.

      They probably disliked VV Putin’s reason is that our intelligence is clearly working to bring the know-how home.
  4. +12
    29 December 2012 10: 10
    Paraphrasing A.S. Pushkin: oh yes Putin! ....
    1. +1
      29 December 2012 11: 03
      Quote: MDesant
      Paraphrasing A.S. Pushkin: oh yes Putin! ....

      And then what? smile
      1. 11Goor11
        0
        29 December 2012 14: 27
        Vladimirets
        And then what?

        Um ... "... A.S. Pushkin"
        It seems so? lol
        1. Kostya pedestrian
          +1
          30 December 2012 17: 37
          And it can be so, although it also turns out a mate!






          From the point of view of Belarus, although Russia successfully sells electricity and other oil products, the agricultural sector needs to be upheld, and it is the native farming and collective farm enterprises that must strive to develop. Including to cultivate interest in the development of this industry among the native Russians. This is actually vital for developing the country's power and potential in the future. In addition, a well-fed army is better at fighting!
      2. speedy
        +2
        29 December 2012 20: 22
        Quote: Vladimirets
        What next? smile

        Yes, well done! WELL DONE !!!
  5. +13
    29 December 2012 10: 25
    Yes, they hammered into our heads that we are already embarrassed by our own oil.
    I think if for about 20 years Japanese people drip on their brains, they will begin to be shy of their dependence on electronics.
    Let the west be shy. Their loot - in general, 70 percent of the robbed colonies came. They had almost eaten it, and their crises were shaking. And the market economy with "English manufactories" multiplied by tolerance with liberalism does not help.
    1. +15
      29 December 2012 15: 53
      Quote: Magadan
      Let the west be shy. Their loot - in general, 70 percent of the robbed colonies came. They had almost eaten it, and their crises were shaking. And the market economy with "English manufactories" multiplied by tolerance with liberalism, something does not help


      If until December 31 the President and the US Congress did not reach an agreement on tax policy, then from January 1, automatically "fiscal cliff". that is, termination of practically all tax breaks and cuts in government spending, in particular on defense. as well as cutting budget spending by $ 1,2 trillion. All rating agencies, lower the credit rating of the United States. Financial and commodity markets respond in a friendly collapse, burying Europe, which is barely trying to raise its head from the recession.. And where will the poor gay men go with their Euros?
      And if you still agree, then the Fed will continue to print about $ 170 billion dollars a month, allowing you to inflate a financial bubble during the year.. Financial and commodity markets will not swell forever, but until they burst, spreading the second wave of the crisis. I.e, the ending is the same as in the first case, but stretched out in time.
      Therefore, Russia is also unwise to put all energy-saving eggs in one European basket. We do not have to constantly pray to Europeans - Well, take me!(in the style of Elena Sparrow). Correctly said, we do not owe anything to anyone.
      Quote: esaul
      To which the head of Transneft quite reasonably, calmly and confidently replied that "... We do not owe them anything


      And the fact that they Parasites it's been known for a long time .. True, they are very indignant when they are called so, well, let the dog bark and the caravan go

      1. TekhnarMAF
        +3
        29 December 2012 17: 11
        Ascetic I welcome you Stanislav! + You! Well, so the interview was taken from the ambassador, and Posol to a well-known place, and we will do our job, to get rid of parasitic insects.
      2. +3
        29 December 2012 20: 54
        Greetings, Stanislav hi
        Quote: Ascetic
        We do not have to constantly pray to the Europeans - Well, take me! (In the style of Elena Sparrow).

        good
        And this is a rejection of the role of dependence - Russia is showing not only in the field of energy.
        As for the notorious WTO, the adoption of Russia took place only after the ultimatum - "Do not decide positively for Russia now, then stomp yourself!"
        The same situation is in forcing visa-free regime between Russia and the EU. When ours, on the eve of the Brussels summit, announced that Russia did not intend to ask again and since January has been reintroducing visas for European civil aviation crews, there have been noticeable shifts towards positive development.
        Again to the subject of the WTO. I would like to be interested in proposing here such material confirming the ingenuity of Russian decisions to protect its manufacturer within the WTO

        Russia will cover itself from the WTO with a "green basket"


        http://www.utro.ru/articles/2012/12/05/1087787.shtml


        I think - this gives us optimistic hopes that, being a member of the WTO, Russia will not be dissolved in the requirements imposed on it by the European Union... Not a superfluous confirmation and the fact, cited by me above, of a kind of dialogue between the EU and Transneft Yes
  6. +8
    29 December 2012 10: 25
    Obviously, by the 2004 of the year, Europe had become accustomed to the idea that it was she who was the main consumer of Russian hydrocarbons, and therefore could consider Russian oil reserves in Siberia almost her own ... However, Moscow took a step that showed that in today's changing world look for alternative consumers.
    If this is a clash, then only their fashionable psychotherapist will help, if not a psychiatrist. What did they tell us all about the necessary market relations? To whom it is more convenient, I sell it. As if they themselves are not ready to rush to profit anywhere. We found a "younger brother", that's right with this project ... (pi, as in TV)
  7. 0
    29 December 2012 10: 32
    The article is interesting informative.
  8. +4
    29 December 2012 10: 37
    << ... if resources each year carry more weight, then why shouldn't (Russia) try to achieve its geopolitical and economic goals with their help? >>
    Absolutely right! Now let these lovers of PACE constantly kicking Russia for any reason finally understand that the light has not converged on them, that Russia can do without them, with their moralizing. Now it’s their turn to listen to the OPINION of Russia and BECOME THE QUEUE for its natural resources! And this is just the beginning! T
  9. Hey
    +4
    29 December 2012 10: 47
    The same thing must be done for gas.
    Putin has already given a hint to Europe.
  10. +9
    29 December 2012 11: 13
    In general, I feel the balance is always in our favor. With such a positive, we can develop normally, if only in the 1917m some thread filth with the revolution did not cut us down. Well, technology will not go anywhere, it will be calm and stable, there will be technology.
    I can’t wait for some comrades to poke mud in the face with their mug in the dirt. And then I heard a lot of different things in the 90s. And it's not about revenge. The truth is the point. No need to talk and humiliate my homeland when my homeland is bad.
    A little more and proud arrogant Saxons will beg for work from us.
    1. sq
      +2
      29 December 2012 12: 17
      And what kind of work can they do? Most of them were offended by brains, God wasn’t accustomed to working with their hands, and there is no need to allow them to work with the rest, we will manage ourselves.
      1. +4
        29 December 2012 12: 46
        sq,
        Our emigrants will beg! Who at one time left Russia completely disbelieving in it. Well, and a certain percentage of Western techies, mostly German, come in handy! You just can’t let such people get into education in Russia and have a cannon shot!
    2. 11Goor11
      +7
      29 December 2012 14: 39
      Magadan
      With such a positive, we can develop normally, if only in the 1917m some thread filth with the revolution did not cut us down.

      So these creatures in Tatarstan are just preparing the "mess".
      Moreover, these "attitudes" seem to permeate almost everything and the leadership of the republic and "spiritual" leaders and crowds of zombified youth, you read some kind of mass insanity: "Wahhabism is more precious than life", and preferably the life of a neighbor.
      1. webdog
        +2
        29 December 2012 23: 27
        11Goor11, you should urgently replace the leadership with the Slavs, a lot of reasons for this can be found ...
        and should be done quickly.
        as soon as they jerk, impose a curfew.
        assign good money for every wahhabi. let them own and build.
        but first, change of leadership urgently wherever the state apparatus works in Tatarstan. Slowly, not to crush, by small groups of these officials to send to other posts in the regions, and then to write off completely from the managers. I think for 3-4 months you can manage.
        otherwise, to be in trouble.
        I think so.
        1. 11Goor11
          +1
          30 December 2012 01: 04
          Here’s what kind of sneak was arranged: Putin
          On June 1, 2012, the law of the Russian Federation came into force, returning direct elections of the highest officials of the region.
          managed to pass the law before Putin became president
          And now it’s unlikely that Moscow can take and appoint all the other officials with a rank lower than that, this can serve as a trigger for the conflict - only touch ....
          1. webdog
            0
            31 December 2012 00: 06
            it seems like a cool mnogohodovka ...
  11. Nechai
    +2
    29 December 2012 11: 18
    Quote: borisst64
    A country that depends on our supplies is not only stronger friends, but also compromises on occasion.

    In order for friendship to continue, we need to be strong and self-sufficient, in most positions of the domestic market. They are friends with the strong, the weak will crush for themselves.
    Quote: Goldmitro
    Now let these PACE lovers constantly kicking Russia for any reason finally understand

    It is better for these gentlemen to attend to the issue of signing the "Declaration of Human Rights" by the United States. Otherwise, the Yankees are rushing around the world, "protecting" them, and they are not in a hurry to take on obligations on their own territory.
    MUD: "The same should be done with gas" - that would be the case! And such an impetus to the development of our Far East would undoubtedly give!
  12. Lucky
    +8
    29 December 2012 11: 21
    Putin in this respect handsome!)) drinks
  13. +5
    29 December 2012 11: 58
    Europe was not in vain bustling, the situation that has remained so far interdependenceover. The buyer can put pressure on the seller only when he only, now, roughly speaking, we can put on Europe, and even with the device.
    And the screams about the squandering of resources, the raw materials economy and so on, it's time to stop, there Norway is sitting on the "oil and gas needle" and is not soared. By the way, rumors about depleting oil reserves are somewhat exaggerated, recent, but rather yesterday than today's research showed that oil reserves are still renewingThe mechanism is not yet clear, but there is a fact, so that something will remain for posterity. drinks
    1. djon3volta
      +2
      29 December 2012 18: 55
      Yes, not only Norway is on the "needle", the same Arab countries, such as the UAE, Qatar, the Saudis and so on .. they have nothing but oil and no, although no, they still have sand)))
      1. +1
        29 December 2012 19: 26
        Quote: djon3volta
        they still have sand

        They forgot about camels wink
        In some countries, the tourism business is also developed.
      2. scrack
        0
        29 December 2012 22: 42
        Soon they’ll run out of oil
  14. +5
    29 December 2012 12: 03
    Quote: Lucky
    You can, of course, begin to sprinkle your head with ashes and say that, here, they say, is the next brainchild of a commodity economy; they say that advanced countries have long been switching to an innovative economic system that produces a high-tech product, and here we put all the pipes ...

    Is a raw materials economy bad - China has proved to everyone that any country can be a "producer", it all depends on the cost of labor, but only those who have them can provide production with resources ... as a result, the dependence of Europe, the USA, China and others from the country of the supplier of resources - they understand this and are trying to put on us such a stamp that they say "a raw material economy is bad", but all of them depend on this economy, and due to the fact that there is oil in Africa and southern Eurasia almost everything has already been pumped out, what remains will cost much more and will be a currency much more stable than the dollar., the law of the market - the less valuable goods, the more expensive it is ...
    ps - understand correctly, I'm not saying that we should develop ONLY as a commodity country, industrialization is of course important - BUT, a commodity economy should also be developed - in a few years it will be a VERY STRONG pressure lever (it is still weak but will be even stronger) on all developed countries of the world!
  15. +2
    29 December 2012 12: 58
    Oil and gas are strategic material, therefore the state should manage the resources. The Norwegian constitution explicitly states that the bowels are the property of the people, but they do not consider the country democratic, and if you don’t like it, let them deal with shale gases, only people and nature are sorry. This is just the case when the buyer is wrong!
    In fact, the wealth of mineral resources is stronger than currency reserves. By the way, in Siberia there is a lot of methane, also information for consideration.
  16. zambo
    0
    29 December 2012 14: 27
    The most important thing, as the author emphasized, is providing people with work, developing infrastructure and the Far East as a whole.
  17. +3
    29 December 2012 15: 21
    Norway before the discovery of offshore fields was one of the poorest countries in Europe. And now she is one of the richest. The average standard of living has grown dozens of times over some three decades. And - note - this is a "capitalist" country, but we rocked in socialism and now (it is not clear in what kind of social system) we are driving right and left (instead of to recycle ourselves!) And what ??? - the people have gristle, carbonate is divided between themselves 1-2% of the nouveau riche. In Soviet times, at least they made tanks, they were the first in space and ballet. And now they are pumping - and everything is like a break!
    So this branch does not warm the soul.
    I’m glad for the people on the branch, at the pumping stations, although they will heal humanly.
    1. djon3volta
      +5
      29 December 2012 18: 51
      The population of Norway is only 5 million people. Now the question is - how much is the population of Russia?
      You can still argue the United States, like 300 million live there, and people are richer. Well, for the first time, the United States is engaged in the robbery of oil countries, that is, roughly speaking, it prints empty candy wrappers and draws almost zero inflation for itself.
      1. Volkhov
        0
        29 December 2012 19: 34
        Quote: djon3volta
        .Now the question-how much is the population of Russia?


        80 million approximately without visitors ...
        1. djon3volta
          +1
          29 December 2012 20: 02
          where does 80 million come from? 20 million say right away, or even less.
          But seriously, I read this garbage about 80 million and a letter from a "Russian patriota" in the network. Also a duck and about how NATO troops have the right to invade Russia under some circumstances. This is pure nonsense, I don’t know who and who invented it.
  18. +2
    29 December 2012 15: 59
    I don’t understand much! Well, they are getting ready to build refineries in Primorye .. there are refineries in Khabarovsk, and the prices for fuels and lubricants are unbelievable! maybe it’s worth building small refineries along the pipe in the regions themselves, where this pipe runs, and the people at work and the regions themselves will provide fuel and lubricants .. and there is a lot left for delivery abroad ..
  19. fartfraer
    -2
    29 December 2012 16: 42
    who told you that pipes give investment to the region? As many people live in Siberia as there are in Moscow alone, and investments in the Caucasus (albeit not investments in the full sense of the word, state aid) are much higher than in the Omsk, Tomsk regions. Of course it is necessary, but I’m stupid to sell them for money that are worth nothing (not provided for by anything other than the United States). Have you got used to gas prices in the Russian Federation? But does Salyar get more expensive for sowing and harvesting? in many n.p. no gas?
    and yet, do Europe and China need oil? no! they need gasoline, kerosene, solarium, fuel oil and other oil products, so why do we (Russia) sell them not oil products, but oil?
    soon, instead of apartments, they will start selling bricks, cement, iron ore for rebar, and the "Putinites" will shout happily - "look how many resources we have." is a fast-paced country that knows how to build excellent equipment, has one of the strongest scientific and experimental bases in the world sells raw materials.
  20. +3
    29 December 2012 16: 55
    By the way, oil and gas pipes are a product of very high innovative technologies. For example, the Soviet Union purchased pipes for gas pipelines in Germany.
    Now we make them ourselves.
    So laying a gas pipeline is an innovative project.
    And then - the laying of new pipelines does not at all mean an increase in hydrocarbon sales, and an increase in our raw material function.
    Diversification in progress. Europe shows off with its third Euro protocol. What is left for us? For nothing to give? Sell ​​to others.
    Just a market economy.
  21. +1
    29 December 2012 17: 37
    That's right - business is business and nothing personal
  22. +8
    29 December 2012 19: 27
    As they say in Odessa, I apologize wildly, but I will express my opinion not so much on the article, but in the sense that 2-3 months ago here on the site in the comments I read groans about the "oil needle", "raw material appendage" and others hard-hitting epithets of our country and the economy. And now there are a lot of enthusiastic praises about the same pipe and oil, and most importantly the smart policy of the Furious and Darkest, as the President is called on some websites, and they write this not offensively, but with respect. Guys, well, see for yourself, Well, Russia cannot now behave like the Soviet Union, one and a half hundred submarines with nuclear missiles plowed the world's oceans, and a group of 20 thousand tanks in a week could pass Geyrop to the English Channel. We do not have such military power now, and therefore the GDP made the right bet on what Russia is strong at at the moment - on hydrocarbons. And instead of talking as in the days of the Union from a position of strength, he gently, like an octopus, strangled the pipelines with tentacles at first Europe, and now embraces Asia. And since in the next five years the end of the crisis is not expected, everything will be like in the movie "Diamond Hand": "And if they don't take it? And if they don't, we will turn off the gas!" I see the emerging situation. So it is not always necessary to immediately shout that "everything is gone, the plaster is being removed, the client is leaving." I think Russia will still "dictate its will to the rest of the freedom-loving humanity" k / f "DMB. And so all the upcoming New year, all health, good luck, family well-being and all the best!
    1. +1
      29 December 2012 23: 10
      Captain45 is a plus. They saw and understood everything correctly. And about the comments - too. There are a lot of people who want to whimper - "we only sell raw materials, at least it's time to do something." And military products for 14 billion. dollars - this /, like, also dug out of the earth.
      1. fartfraer
        -1
        29 December 2012 23: 26
        botanist, so, to "think" the thought, if they were selling not raw materials, but products from it, this would develop our industry? maybe it would give jobs, no? remember passed a law banning the export of round timber (timber) abroad, so and what? they drive them by carriages. take an interest in the pricing of domestic fuel prices, and then remember how we removed export duties on oil when world prices fell, then we’ll talk. and from personal observations, oil prices jumped up (2-3 years ago, mine), immediately prices at gas stations went up, then prices fell (for oil), but at gas stations there was no way, you export raw materials, you will eat away the land (tuzla, islands on the cupid, shelves in the Barents Sea) - you want to live in such a country and therefore support the authorities?))
  23. +2
    29 December 2012 20: 15
    It is necessary to sell oil while they are buying, tomorrow technology will step forward and no one will need oil, or demand will fall.
  24. sadqwsaff
    0
    29 December 2012 20: 15
    Have you heard what our authorities are doing again ??? Now everything became known, all the information about each resident of Ukraine, Russia and the CIS countries.
    I just found this base on the Internet smll.co/aVq1c3,
    and most importantly, they did something like searching for lost relatives, but here is all the information about each of us:
    Correspondence with friends, addresses, phone numbers, place of work, and the worst thing is even my exposure of photos
    (I really don't know from where ...). In general, I was very scared - but there is such a function as "hide data"
    Of course I took advantage and I advise everyone not to hesitate, you never know
  25. sxn278619
    +4
    29 December 2012 21: 10
    After 5 years, the GDP of the global economy will fall by 30%.
    So the price of oil will be less than 70 dollars.
    We must now sell at $ 100 and invest in import-substituting enterprises. There is nothing to save to help bankers and oligarchs, as in 2009. It is time to expel the students of Gaidar, Yasin, Chubais from the economic bloc.
  26. +1
    29 December 2012 22: 34
    In 2011, he worked on the construction of NPS41 (oil refinery) near the village of Anuchino on the same pipeline. So, before the amers arrived, and they came there, all communication trenches were buried, and the site itself was leveled like a billiard table. They walked there for a couple of hours and dumped, and ours again dig everything up. It took more than one day, the depth was more than 3 meters.
  27. 0
    30 December 2012 01: 57
    I worked for ESPO1 in 2008-09, I remember Putin came to the pan and cut the ribbon)
  28. WW3
    WW3
    +3
    30 December 2012 02: 13
    The launch of the oil pipeline to the East is not only diversification of consumers of Russian exports and a move away from monopoly dependence on Europe, but also another touch into the mosaic of the future cooling of relations with the Western world in the case up to the Cold War ....
  29. +2
    30 December 2012 04: 52
    Quote: 11Goor11
    Moreover, these "attitudes" seem to permeate almost everything and the leadership of the republic and "spiritual" leaders and crowds of zombified youth, you read some kind of mass insanity: "Wahhabism is more precious than life", and preferably the life of a neighbor.

    And you know, this is a thought! The fact is that the same Orthodox Christians and traditional Muslims with their BLOOD have proved the right to their faith. People went to torment and death for the sake of Christ, but did not give up their beliefs and did not offer sacrifices to idols.
    Through this, it will be fair to drive out the Wahhabis. If they really do not refuse, then they have a right to exist. I'm not talking about how to detonate a bomb on yourself. A bomb is an instant. Anyone can process their brains for a short time, so that he simply pulled the check. I'm talking about real torture and torment. When a person is tortured for months. Interestingly, Wahhabis will be able as Christians to transfer this and not abandon their ideas?
    1. -1
      30 December 2012 20: 55
      Here it is necessary to clarify what kind of torment Christians and Muslims suffered? It was they who brought pain and torment to the Gentiles, faith in a single god (no matter in which - Muslims, Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants ...) is the DARK faith, the very forces of evil that have been fighting for 1000 years for power on Earth.
      It was not Christians and Muslims that were destroyed — it was they who destroyed entire nations and countries.
  30. 0
    1 January 2013 16: 09
    There is no longer the postulate "Man is man's friend, brother and comrade". All. Amba. Push them with their foreheads. And let those foreheads crack. Let them break their skulls. If it is beneficial to us, then this is correct. All. Dot. wassat
  31. +1
    2 January 2013 23: 25
    The article is very topical. The EU is making a fool of the Russian Federation’s head with gas prices and volumes, but it’s ready to take how much they give. But they want, after they break Syria, to lay a pipeline from Qatar directly to the EU. It would be farsighted to link purchases of gas and other goods from the Russian Federation, be it grain or cars. Do you want oil? Do not make a fool of gas and buy goods with surplus value (at least that, the principle is important). But no, then give everything to China and Korea, no deflections, under anyone ... You will not be forcibly sweet. And through the Baltic ports not a gram of cargo can be transported, not a gram ...

    I also understand the mutual interest with the FRG, so Germany is doing its best, they are building and modernizing more than all other countries combined, and fire all 27 EU mongrels ...

    And most importantly! There is no need to quarrel with anyone, to punish for any hostile attitude only economically, but with sadism - in a Jesuit trick to hit the weakest point, while smiling, we are friends, but the economy is separate from friendship. Like flies and cutlets. The EU itself is crawling on its knees ...
    1. +1
      3 January 2013 16: 25
      Quote: JACOB
      And through the Baltic ports not a gram of cargo can be transported, not a gram ...

      Ust-Luga is likely to finish building and let the independent Baltic states independently ... something to ...