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We won't get far on this kind of gasoline.

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We won't get far on this kind of gasoline.



A small economic educational program


How many times has it been necessary to repeat that Russia urgently needs low fuel prices within the country. As, indeed, are low energy tariffs and cheap gas. And it would also be nice to have inexpensive currency and inexpensive ruble loans within the country.

We are not going to say that with this approach Russia will immediately rush to become a world leader, but it certainly will not remain an outsider. And especially in terms of the standard of living of the population, which, alas, is by no means the highest in our country.

And how much, in the end, can one argue that the main competitive advantage of the Russian economy was the low cost of labor. China has already gone through this, but isn’t that why the vaunted Chinese economy is stalling today, where they were simply forced to transfer a lot of production to countries where workers are still much cheaper.

Who ordered these prices?


What confused the public most these days was diesel at 80 rubles per liter, although for some reason they forget that diesel fuel consumption per kilometer is much less than AI-92 or AI-95. When they find out what gasoline prices really depend on, they remember everything except the wages of those who work at refineries and gas stations

It is thanks to them, by the way, that you can survive for a very long time in a fiercely competitive environment. Nevertheless, no one cancels the influence of such factors as the cost of raw materials; excise taxes, overhead costs and trade markups.

It's the latter that we'll stick to. Our domestic oil kings are essentially simply forced to trade within Russia, because it is simply impossible to sell everything abroad. Both technically and due to a number of obligations to the authorities.

Small and daring


This is where the dog is buried. The oil giants, receiving concessions from the top for the successful export of oil and petroleum products, also do not want to be left without profit within the country. And it’s not so much “high” regulation that slows them down, but the same competition.

Including small companies, which the “big guys” seem to be unable to dislodge or even squeeze out of the market. But don’t believe that anyone really wants to squeeze anyone out. The small gasoline business is simply a salvation for the oil giants, who are involved in it according to a variety of, usually “gray”, schemes.

You can always attribute the blame for rising prices to petty factors, and “write off”, in a different sense, losses, and write off profits through them. It’s not just that small companies that control no more than a dozen gas stations somewhere in the outback dissolve in space as quickly as they appear in it.

All are to blame


Gasoline market analysts are very fond of recalculating how much and in which country the consumer spends on filling the tank with gasoline. Given the complete superiority of the West over Russia in retail price, the difference when compared with the average salary is not so big.

In addition, this does not take into account the “left” income of Russians, with whom, you will agree, we have a complete mess. But for the recipients themselves, everything is in order. Just don’t think that we want to say with these arguments that it’s our own fault.

As stated above, everyone is to blame. But, as you know, everything starts from the top, that is, from the head. Therefore, let’s pay attention to strange games with currency, which either needs to be returned to the treasury, dramatically complicating one’s business, and then again is not necessary, thereby helping it flow abroad.

Let us remember the equally strange games with the so-called damper, designed to compensate for the losses of gasoline producers on the mandatory sale of fuel within the country.

We will also not remain silent about stimulating deeper oil refining in the country, so that we have our own, and not semi-imported, high-quality oil, and everything else that is made from oil. Either it was not there or not, they are sacrificing it for the sake of income from the export of crude oil and its primary processing products somewhere in Belarus. The refineries there are not much better than ours, but they are an ally.


What happened this year?


At the end of the summer, the national AI-92 gasoline persistently tested the mark of 50 rubles per liter, which, against the backdrop of wholesale prices of 80 thousand per ton, looked like an attraction of unprecedented generosity on the part of gas station owners. But demand was weak due to seasonality, and it was impossible to exceed fifty dollars almost anywhere.

The exception was the hard-to-reach outback, but today the last of those dumping are already surrendering. Demand has almost recovered, and preventive maintenance at a number of refineries was somehow extended in time. Clearly looking for an excuse for a price hike. Prices have not yet jumped, they are only creeping, but everything is ahead...

In general, since the beginning of the year in Russia, not only the dollar has risen in price from the euro, but also gasoline. However, not so much yet - only 7,6% versus about 30% for the currency pair. This means that fuel will rise, although our oil producers and oil refiners could continue to play on the difference in prices to their advantage.

Moreover, the collective West has no intention of abandoning the price ceiling, which has somehow been forgotten at the moment. And he buys and repurchases the usual Russian raw materials through less scrupulous intermediaries, starting with India and China.

Don't look back at the dollar


The foreign exchange contribution to the price of gasoline, with some desire from market regulators, could be reduced to zero. But we have a market where the consumer pays for everything. The dollar is simply mocking our monetary authorities, who only know how to make the ruble less and less accessible due to exorbitant rates.

As a result, everyone who can deliberately takes the dollar and leaves, fortunately not everyone has to return it. As a result, it dangles just below the 100-ruble mark, provoking an increase in prices for literally everything. And this despite the fact that Russia already had an excellent experience of almost complete separation from the dollar a quarter of a century ago.

Having oil at a price of just over $10 before the default, the government of E. M. Primakov was not afraid to impose a complete taboo on the withdrawal of currency abroad. The world market's response to this was an almost immediate increase in the prices of what?

That's right - oil! And this, among a number of other measures, helped Russia warm up its half-dead economy, emerge from default with honor, and soon pay off almost all its creditors.
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  1. Sanktperburg1812
    Sanktperburg1812 18 September 2023 04: 33
    +17
    It's written intricately, but it's not clear at all. What is the conclusion?
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 18 September 2023 04: 49
      +25
      The dollar is simply mocking our monetary authorities
    2. nikolaevskiy78
      nikolaevskiy78 18 September 2023 05: 14
      +1
      The other day, Antony Blinken said that the most important thing is strategic humility. If the globalists say that we must humble ourselves, then all the more so for us wink The world has become global, humility must also be global. laughing
    3. Stas157
      Stas157 18 September 2023 05: 48
      +13
      Quote from Sanktperburg1812
      It's written intricately, but it's not clear at all. What is the conclusion?

      We need to return to the experience of reforms of the communist government of Primakov-Maslyukov-Gerashchenko. Or better yet, to the USSR, where the dollar was 60 kopecks. There was an opaque hint of this in the article.
      1. max702
        max702 18 September 2023 16: 48
        +2
        Quote: Stas157
        . Or better yet, to the USSR, where the dollar was 60 kopecks.

        For currency in the USSR they gave time right up to the wall. Is this really necessary?
      2. Sanktperburg1812
        Sanktperburg1812 18 September 2023 19: 59
        +3
        . Or better yet, to the USSR, where the dollar was 60 kopecks. There was an opaque hint of this in the article.

        How will you return to the USSR? They love to chat about this topic. But how is it realistic? Re-nationalization and closed economy? This was possible when half the world was under control after 1945 and it was possible to really overthrow capitalism on a global scale. Then Khrushchev gave up everything and now there is not even one percent of those opportunities.
        So how will you return after being integrated into all global trade and production chains for generations?
        1. Vikxnumx
          Vikxnumx 19 September 2023 10: 33
          +4
          So how will you return after being integrated into all global trade and production chains for generations?

          Now the country has returned to the end of the 20s of the 20th century... Again, the bourgeoisie does not want to sell us anything. No machines, no technologies, no... But our own in the country..., like after the Civil War!
          And the civil war is already underway! And the authorities do nothing... nothing. Either he doesn’t know, or he doesn’t know how, or he’s simply an enemy of the country and the people...
          1. your1970
            your1970 19 September 2023 11: 55
            +1
            Quote: VIK1711
            the end of the 20s of the 20th century... Again the bourgeoisie do not want to sell us anything. No machines, no technology, no...
            - A.Kan was just at that time unwinding his 2 billion THOSE bucks...
            "They didn't want to sell" lol
            Do you even read Makarenko or something - where did the American “Black and Decker drill” come from in the colony at the beginning of 1930 - which “sparked” ....
            1. Vikxnumx
              Vikxnumx 20 September 2023 17: 59
              +1
              Do you even read Makarenko or something - where did the American “Black and Decker drill” come from in the colony at the beginning of 1930 - which “sparked” ....

              So you are already hooked on the times of the Great Depression! Then the factories were sold entirely to the USSR!
          2. Glagol1
            Glagol1 19 September 2023 12: 40
            -1
            And where did you, my dear VIK1711, spot the Civil War? I go to different places every day, but somehow I don’t see this war at close range.
            1. Vikxnumx
              Vikxnumx 20 September 2023 18: 00
              +1
              And where did you, my dear VIK1711, spot the Civil War?

              Well, we don’t have a war! NO! Only SVO... And more graves are added to cemeteries.
    4. paul3390
      paul3390 18 September 2023 07: 13
      +25
      What is the conclusion?

      Kind of obvious. Strategic sectors, including the fuel and energy complex, should belong only to the state. And nothing else. Because the bourgeoisie, with their pathological greed, will simply ruin both us and the country.
      1. kakvastam
        kakvastam 18 September 2023 08: 57
        +21
        Yes, they’ve already ruined it, so why be ashamed?
        The country is already, we are not yet completely, but in the process.
      2. Jcvai
        Jcvai 18 September 2023 09: 53
        +7
        Oh, not a fact: it depends on the political system.
        If the state is capitalist, controlled by oligarchic clans, how does it differ from a private closed joint stock company?
        For strategic sectors to work primarily for the benefit of the people, it is required that at the level of government and actually working laws, from the constitution to regional and structural orders, resources and means of production belong to the citizens of the country. And if in fact we, for example, have a common coastline, but only until “whoever needs it” builds a dacha there and so on in everything and everywhere...
        But this is in general, because if you dig deep - I’m obviously wrong in exaggerating, because there is Alaska, the Emirates, Arabia... - where the population is actually co-owners of the state’s resources.
      3. Dock1272
        Dock1272 18 September 2023 12: 11
        +10
        Not necessary. But at the legal level, it must be accepted that the sale of oil and petroleum products overseas should be a PRIVILEGE. Not a right, but a privilege. But the privilege is given only to those who saturate a certain market share with fuel at a certain minimum price, and depending on this market share, the company can sell the same (no more) share abroad. That's all. After all, according to the constitution, whose subsoil? Like, people. And send all the moaning and crying of the oil workers to... If they don’t like it, let them leave the market. Others will take their place. And of course, introduce mandatory return of currency. There is no “leaving someone else’s economy for development”... that’s all.)))
        1. AdAstra
          AdAstra 18 September 2023 19: 31
          +9
          "After all, according to the constitution, whose subsoil? Like, the people."
          Re-read this article in the constitution again laughing
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        3. Leon
          Leon 26 September 2023 07: 50
          0
          Well written! But no one in power will read this....
      4. Sanktperburg1812
        Sanktperburg1812 18 September 2023 20: 00
        -1
        They actually belong to the state. Does this make you feel better?
        1. Deck
          Deck 19 September 2023 06: 25
          +3
          The price of a liter of gasoline in Russia is as follows: 26% - other taxes, 20% - excise taxes, 18% - refining and delivery, 13% - oil company income, 9% - gas station income, 8% - mineral extraction tax, 6% - the cost of producing oil itself.
      5. your1970
        your1970 19 September 2023 12: 08
        +1
        Quote: paul3390
        Strategic industries, including the fuel and energy complex, should belong only to the state. And nothing else.
        and next to Gazprom there is a factory producing accessories for pumps. Burzhuinsky...
        And its owner says to the nationalized Gazprom, “Starting tomorrow, fittings will become 10 times more expensive!!”
        If you don’t buy it, you’ll have to go to war and nationalize it; you’ll have to get the accessories from somewhere. If you buy it, they’ll stupidly raise the price even more and give it to the STATE Gazprom. And in this case, you’ll have to nationalize that factory.
        And so on down the chain until the last farmer and store.
        And you are immediately in the late USSR, adjusted for the fact that then they did not know how to steal like that, and the population does not trust the authorities..
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 19 September 2023 12: 20
          -1
          Quote: your1970
          And you are immediately in the late USSR, adjusted for the fact that then they did not know how to steal like that, and the population does not trust the authorities..

          Relief. A plus )))
      6. Eug
        Eug 26 September 2023 13: 21
        0
        There must be a monopoly of foreign trade. Then everything will be much simpler.
    5. Master 2030
      Master 2030 18 September 2023 16: 53
      +3
      "Poll tax, guide tax,
      pay villans and the whole conversation"
      Centerum censeo Washingtonum delendam esse
      1. nikolaevskiy78
        nikolaevskiy78 18 September 2023 17: 05
        +2
        "Sirventa" Bertrand De Born 1195g

        Men who are angry and rude,
        They sharpen their teeth on the nobility,
        Only beggars love me!
        Love to see me people
        Starving, naked,
        Suffering, not warmed!
        Let my dear lie
        If I lied about this!
        The man has the character of a pig,
        Doesn't know how to live decently,
        If he gets rich,
        That will start to go crazy.
        That the villans are not fat,
        That deprivation suffered,
        Ought from year to year
        Century to keep them in a black body.
        Who cares for their villans,
        They will not be deprived of anything
        And let them heads
        Bullying is crazy...

        Once upon a time, Sirventa was published in school textbooks, it seems for the 5th grade, so that people would roughly understand what class morality was in the old regime style.
        1. kakvastam
          kakvastam 18 September 2023 17: 14
          0
          Yes, I remember the penultimate stanza from then on. In my opinion, she was the only one in the textbook.
    6. TwilightElf
      TwilightElf 18 September 2023 19: 37
      +5
      what conclusion is that under this government, prices for ANYTHING will NEVER go down.
    7. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 19 September 2023 07: 52
      +6
      Here's what's popular:
      It seems that in our country they do not listen to what the leaders and those personalities on whom everything in the country depends are saying. But it was said that “losing income on the foreign market will be compensated at the expense of the domestic market.” What's unclear here? In simple terms, exporters compensate for their falling income from sales abroad by receiving greater profits from sales in the domestic market, that is, within the country. Raise prices on the domestic market, sell and receive increased profits, then use this money to buy dollars on the stock exchange at an increased rate and take them out of the country - this is the strategy of all sellers of energy resources. Is it really that hard to understand?
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    8. Russian Patriot
      Russian Patriot 19 September 2023 09: 50
      +1
      Both the oil magnates and their own government are fooling the people.
    9. VB
      VB 19 September 2023 10: 23
      +1
      The conclusion is very simple - the entire leadership of the energy sector, oil and gas complexes, the economic bloc of the government, should be arrested, convicted and exemplarily shot.
  2. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 18 September 2023 05: 06
    +19
    For some reason I remembered the end of the 80s, early 90s... When everything was lost due to sabotage... Where are we going...
    1. ZloyCat
      ZloyCat 18 September 2023 09: 22
      +3
      "When everything is lost due to sabotage... Where are we going.."
      it was not sabotage, it was a skillfully organized operation by the West, carried out by Gorbachev and his gang
      1. your1970
        your1970 19 September 2023 12: 15
        +2
        Quote: ZloyKot
        it was not sabotage, it was a skillfully organized operation by the West, carried out by Gorbachev and his gang

        Ага.
        The CIA - the Central Committee and the Politburo sent the entire...
        And if this is really an operation, then ALL the top of the CPSU (from the secretary of the regional committee and above), the entire top of the security forces and the army - turned out to be a bunch of mediocrities, demagogues and talkers unable to retain power. Rotted alive for the sake of "turntables" and rations...
        You what is the option closer?
        1. ZloyCat
          ZloyCat 20 September 2023 09: 59
          0
          “And if this is a real operation, then the ENTIRE top of the CPSU (from the secretary of the regional committee and above), the entire top of the security forces and the army - turned out to be a bunch of mediocrities, demagogues and talkers who are not capable of maintaining power.”
          it was a real operation, with the education and introduction of agents of influence. it lasted for more than one year, it continues now, all the implementers are successfully doing their job, starting from the very top. if all this had just happened on its own, then at least once, by chance, something good could have happened for the country and the people. and since everything is going straight and fast towards complete collapse, it means that someone smart had a hand in this and is carefully controlling the process. That’s why they started it because without war, Russia could have held on for a long time, but here the deadlines are running out, we need to speed up the process. so they sped it up
    2. Sanktperburg1812
      Sanktperburg1812 18 September 2023 20: 01
      +4
      Whoa. And then they were already shouting “the dollar and America are screwed”.... For some reason I’m already starting to worry
  3. carpenter
    carpenter 18 September 2023 05: 31
    +13
    The oil giants, receiving concessions from the top for the successful export of oil and petroleum products, also do not want to be left without profit within the country.
    It’s as if the author forgot that in Russia there is capitalism in the yard, and Russians have always treated their people more cruelly. The revolution of 1917 did not come from a good life.
  4. Stas157
    Stas157 18 September 2023 05: 32
    +28
    . And how long can you travel in the end? based on the fact that the main competitive advantage of the Russian economy was the low cost of labor.

    Where to go? Are we having any successes in the economy? What have we achieved by literally having African salaries? In a country where everything is done for the oligarchs, including gasoline pricing, the people will never live well.

    True, the voices of the guards (and those who watch and listen to them on the zombie box) say quite the opposite. Well, that was the time (of autocracy) and the downtrodden peasants, the poor, idolized the Tsar and Father! Today the picture in the yard is approximately the same.
  5. carpenter
    carpenter 18 September 2023 05: 33
    -5
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    If the globalists say that we must humble ourselves, then all the more so for us

    Globalists or fascists, what's the difference?
    1. nikolaevskiy78
      nikolaevskiy78 18 September 2023 05: 41
      +6
      If you try to figure it out, the very phrase “global fascism” is an oxymoron; perhaps “global dictatorship” would be more correct.
      But in a dictatorship, after all, you have to believe and hope that it will be like A.S. Pushkin
      In his wilderness the desert sage,
      Yarem he is an old corvée
      I replaced the quitrent with a light one;
      And the slave blessed fate.


      So let’s pray that the wise men in the desert wilderness will replace the yoke of corvee with quitrent. Well, we will bless fate there and so on. Sarcasm, of course, but at least that's it laughing
      1. Igor K_2
        Igor K_2 18 September 2023 07: 12
        +2
        You don't need to pray, but knock on the tambourine! And the success of the results of this knocking will directly depend on whose tambourine we knock on.
        1. nikolaevskiy78
          nikolaevskiy78 18 September 2023 14: 59
          0
          You have to knock on the shaman's tambourine and ask for rain laughing
          Maybe they will give rain, but not just any rain, but...
          This is sarcasm, if anything. Well, I do, just in case.
        2. Sanktperburg1812
          Sanktperburg1812 18 September 2023 20: 02
          0
          To knock on a tambourine is to hit someone with a tambourine directly in the head?)) Then I agree.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 18 September 2023 05: 37
    +7
    We won't get far on this kind of gasoline.
    Where are we going? What is the name of the final stop? Paradise? smile
    1. nikolaevskiy78
      nikolaevskiy78 18 September 2023 05: 43
      +1
      "Cloud Paradise" was such a good film fellow
    2. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 18 September 2023 07: 07
      +2
      No. But there is room for some to strive... But I personally don’t want to go there yet. Neither my relatives nor those around me...
      1. kor1vet1974
        kor1vet1974 18 September 2023 10: 08
        +7
        But I personally don’t want to go there yet.
        They won’t ask us. You know who said to heaven, that means to heaven. smile
  7. Million
    Million 18 September 2023 07: 07
    +8
    Apparently, everything is very bad in our kingdom, if gasoline has almost doubled in price.
    Our leaders can’t be such scoundrels as to screw us like that?!
    1. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 18 September 2023 10: 09
      +10
      Our leaders can’t be such scoundrels as to screw us like that?!
      Why haven’t our leaders had us before? Is this the first time such a situation has happened with fuel?
      1. Million
        Million 18 September 2023 11: 04
        -1
        It’s just that today is not the situation when we need to do that.
        1. kor1vet1974
          kor1vet1974 18 September 2023 11: 08
          +12
          Today is not the situation when we need to do that.
          What about them? The Russian Guard, private security companies, PMCs, police, army are enough for us.
      2. Alex 1970
        Alex 1970 18 September 2023 12: 10
        +9
        Why haven’t our leaders had us before? Is this the first time such a situation has happened with fuel? Moreover, some people always call for stabilizing and lowering prices. Summons damn..., summoner.
        1. kor1vet1974
          kor1vet1974 18 September 2023 12: 20
          +6
          Summons damn..., summoner.
          The main thing is to call. And there, the tenth thing, but he called.. “And I said, I said, nail the shelf” (c) smile
    2. AdAstra
      AdAstra 18 September 2023 19: 33
      +1
      Well, how can I tell you... """""
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 18 September 2023 07: 46
    0
    The Ministry of Finance began to do weird things back in March, swinging at the fuel damper. Oil workers warned him, don’t do that, you’ll become a little goat. They did it despite the fact that they don’t have a Western fuel market (in the Ministry of Finance). Yes, they don’t, but the oil workers do. With costs , but it exists. Now the Ministry of Finance and comrade Novak are rushing about what to do - they even want to introduce prohibitive duties on exports of $ 250 per ton. To cut off gray imports, oil workers ask the Ministry of Finance a question - what is gray import? Ministry of Finance: Gray imports are those that are not white , and gray wassat .Someone at the Ministry of Finance decided to save money by halving the fuel damper - oil workers are fattening oil, the price is rising, and then we pay them extra money from the budget. The problem begins with exchange trading - a little more than 20% of production volumes are traded on the exchange. Authors you are not The oil industry is right - now the goal is to reach 95-97% of the refining depth. By reducing the amount of low-margin fuel oil (the main buyers were the USA). A good analysis of what happened, on the Zerno.Ru website. The Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance are doing their best. Let's see how Sechin will sort it out at the VEF he promised Putin to sort it out. lol
  9. Alex 1970
    Alex 1970 18 September 2023 07: 55
    +8
    And when did things get cheaper after 91? The dollar and oil are becoming more expensive and gasoline is rising, as oil is rising with the dollar. Oil and the dollar are becoming cheaper, like a year ago, but gasoline is still rising, since costs need to be covered. In general, until someone cracks from greed, it will be so.
    1. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 18 September 2023 10: 05
      +8
      hi
      In general, until someone cracks from greed, it will be so
      The most annoying thing is that they won’t crack.
      1. Alex 1970
        Alex 1970 18 September 2023 12: 08
        +3
        hi The most annoying thing is that they won’t crack. Unfortunately it is, and that makes it even nastier.
        1. kor1vet1974
          kor1vet1974 18 September 2023 12: 22
          +8
          Unfortunately it is, and that makes it even nastier.
          But in their opinion, everything is fine with us. Simply wonderful.
    2. Dock1272
      Dock1272 18 September 2023 12: 16
      +14
      I never understood these explanations: to cover the costs of losses on the foreign market. From what? Why should I cover their unearned profits (wants) from the global fall in prices. And they don’t want to cover MY costs from the increase in gasoline prices within the country. Since the year 91. And to cover the costs for all residents of the country...
      1. kor1vet1974
        kor1vet1974 18 September 2023 12: 25
        +6
        Why should I cover their lost profits (wishlist)
        Probably because capitalism, the goal of capitalism is to make a profit.. "first of all, first of all, planes, well, and then girls" (c)
        1. your1970
          your1970 19 September 2023 12: 28
          0
          Quote: kor1vet1974
          Why should I cover their lost profits (wishlist)
          Probably because capitalism, the goal of capitalism is to make a profit.. "first of all, first of all, planes, well, and then girls" (c)

          What was the goal of socialism in 2 monetary reforms and Pavlov’s reform?
    3. Escariot
      Escariot 18 September 2023 17: 24
      +3
      Quote: Alex 1970
      And when did things get cheaper after 91? The dollar and oil are becoming more expensive and gasoline is rising, as oil is rising with the dollar. Oil and the dollar are becoming cheaper, like a year ago, but gasoline is still rising, since costs need to be covered. In general, until someone cracks from greed, it will be so.

      Computers, phones, cellular communications, Internet...
  10. Nike
    Nike 18 September 2023 08: 20
    +16
    Why didn’t the author indicate prices for petroleum products in the UAE, Iran, SA, Venezuela and other oil-producing countries? Doesn’t he know, or is he deliberately lying to protect the “rulers”?
    1. Adrey
      Adrey 18 September 2023 10: 35
      +7
      Quote: nike
      Why did the author not indicate prices for petroleum products in the UAE, Iran, SA, Venezuela and other oil-producing countries?

      I think they're just waiting for the right moment. When it is necessary to explain all the advantages of the monarchy, they will give examples of gasoline prices in the UAE and SA laughing
    2. Escariot
      Escariot 18 September 2023 17: 29
      +2
      Quote: nike
      Why didn’t the author indicate prices for petroleum products in the UAE, Iran, SA, Venezuela and other oil-producing countries? Doesn’t he know, or is he deliberately lying to protect the “rulers”?

      You would be better off asking about the price of gasoline in the United States, which is a net exporter. And even better about Norway, which sits on oil fields. Gasoline prices there are among the highest in Europe, but nothing terrible is happening, but rather the opposite - a country with one of the highest standards of living. So it has nothing to do with the price of gasoline.
  11. Dedok
    Dedok 18 September 2023 08: 55
    +2
    You better write down the components of the cost of fuel at a gas station (calculation), so that it is clear in whose interests the increase in fuel costs occurs, especially after the elections
    1. your1970
      your1970 19 September 2023 12: 30
      0
      Quote: Dedok
      You better write down the components of the cost of fuel at a gas station (calculation), so that it is clear in whose interests the increase in fuel costs occurs, especially after the elections

      Already written above
      Quote: Deck
      The price of a liter of gasoline in Russia is as follows: 26% - other taxes, five% - excises, 18% - processing and delivery, 13% - oil company income, 9% - gas station income, 8% - warrant for mining, 6% - the cost of extracting the oil itself.
  12. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 18 September 2023 09: 01
    +8
    So it turns out that with such expensive prices for energy resources, it is not profitable to develop production at home. Hello, import substitution, it’s cheaper to buy, to produce Chech at home
  13. Vladimir Vladimir_3
    Vladimir Vladimir_3 18 September 2023 10: 48
    +6
    And Putin and Co. continue the practice of withdrawing currency outside the border, trading uranium, oil and petroleum products, grain with NATO countries, which are killing our fellow citizens at the front, continue to strangle the economy through the Central Bank with its rate, continue to plunder the country through government procurement...
  14. Andrew A.
    Andrew A. 18 September 2023 11: 55
    0
    Conducting
    A small economic educational program
    It’s a very good idea to not have to worry about not only economics, but also definitions.
    Causes and consequences. You are trying to understand the consequences in isolation from the causes.
  15. Maks1995
    Maks1995 18 September 2023 12: 28
    +5
    It's written chaotically.
    In reality, the oil oligarchs openly said: if oil prices fall in the world, we will take SVOE.in Russia
    That's why they got used to taking their own with impunity. Expensive oil, cheap oil - they take their toll.
    Putin regularly shows concern, the Kremlin and experts regularly consider taxes on windfall profits of raw materials workers, but...then everything calms down.
    “Well, you see, you can’t...” (non-verbatim, I remember the Guarantor answered)

    And economists wrote and read that due to lower oil prices and lower gasoline prices, and therefore transportation, Europe’s GDP grew by an additional 3% per year after the 8th and 14th years... (when prices dropped after the jump)

    We can draw conclusions....
  16. Dedok
    Dedok 18 September 2023 15: 40
    +1
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    You have to knock - on shaman's drum and ask for rain laughing


    as in that joke: "... and women with low social responsibility came"
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  18. Escariot
    Escariot 18 September 2023 17: 17
    0
    Gasoline should not be cheap, but wages should be normal. An attempt to disguise the poverty of citizens with low gasoline prices only increases this very poverty.
    As an example: the difference between the real market price of fuel and the price within the country can be characterized as a kind of subsidy from the budget for the purchase of each liter of gasoline of approximately 100 rubles. Here I have a Russian car and I spend, say, 20 liters of gasoline per month. This means the state gives me a subsidy of 2000 rubles for the purchase of gasoline. But someone has a Chevrolet Tahoe and it burns 200 gasoline a month. Accordingly, the subsidy is already 20000 rubles. Why on earth does he have a bigger subsidy than me? It is necessary to sell everything at the market price, but divide the profit in hard cash on a per-share basis.
    1. your1970
      your1970 19 September 2023 12: 34
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      Quote from Escariot
      divide the profit in hard cash on a per-share basis.

      Hmm...you'll get 100 in cash - but to get treatment and teach in schools, receive a pension and protect the borders of the country - you'll have to chip in...
      1. Escariot
        Escariot 25 September 2023 23: 34
        0
        Quote: your1970
        Quote from Escariot
        divide the profit in hard cash on a per-share basis.

        Hmm...you'll get 100 in cash - but to get treatment and teach in schools, receive a pension and protect the borders of the country - you'll have to chip in...

        Clear. Are there any downsides?
  19. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 18 September 2023 17: 50
    -1
    One of the ways to combat the price of gasoline is the construction of new regional refineries, in municipal or regional ownership. Factories of relatively low productivity designed for a region or region.
    Remember the stories on television about the destruction of micro installations for obtaining gasoline in Chechnya. The idea comes from there.
    A small refinery will provide at least part of the fuel consumed by the region.
    These include rural areas, city services, passenger transport, and personal transport. Again, taxes go to the local treasury. And no dollar threatens us.
    Acceptable regional prices will force these oil monsters, world eaters, to either reduce their prices or leave the local market.
    Another way to reduce the price is to nationalize refineries if they are private, and demand a price reduction if they are state or semi-state. Also initiate financial audits on the basis of which prices have been raised so much that entire industries can stop. For example, in our city, public transport may stop and harvesting may stop.
    Reasonable, inexpensive fuel prices can improve economic efficiency and make life easier for citizens. soldier
    And we probably need to reconsider the formula for the tax burden on fuel in favor of the ordinary consumer, the population.
    1. your1970
      your1970 19 September 2023 12: 37
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      Quote: V.
      We probably need to reconsider the formula for the tax burden on fuel in favor of the ordinary consumer, the population.

      Quote: V.
      demand a price reduction if they are state-owned

      Hmm... first demand taxes for the population and then reduce the price - brilliant, what's up...
      By lowering the price, there will be less taxes
  20. Hiller
    Hiller 18 September 2023 20: 06
    +5
    While oil and gas are in the hands of the oligarchy, there are no and will not be any reductions in fuel prices. Only uphill. The fuel and energy complex should be in the hands of the State. am
  21. runway-1
    runway-1 18 September 2023 21: 24
    0
    How many times has it been necessary to repeat that Russia urgently needs low fuel prices within the country. As, indeed, are low energy tariffs and cheap gas. And it would also be nice to have inexpensive currency and inexpensive ruble loans within the country.
    It is, of course, correct and very desirable, but the system is designed in such a way that it turns out to be expensive (and time-consuming, where it is necessary quickly).
  22. runway-1
    runway-1 18 September 2023 21: 27
    0
    Quote from Sanktperburg1812
    . Or better yet, to the USSR, where the dollar was 60 kopecks. There was an opaque hint of this in the article.

    How will you return to the USSR? They love to chat about this topic. But how is it realistic? Re-nationalization and closed economy? This was possible when half the world was under control after 1945 and it was possible to really overthrow capitalism on a global scale. Then Khrushchev gave up everything and now there is not even one percent of those opportunities.
    So how will you return after being integrated into all global trade and production chains for generations?
    It’s funny and true, how are we going to come back?! Now, right now and without any communists...
  23. koralevviktor
    koralevviktor 18 September 2023 23: 24
    0
    Lies, in reality no one blocked the flow of money. They simply hinted to the partners that if such prices for gas and oil remain, then a revolution will be close in the country. For the rest, prices have not risen. They generally gave 15 rubles for a dollar. What did we end up with?
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  25. Fangaro
    Fangaro 18 September 2023 23: 53
    -4
    It turns out, according to the authors of this controversial article, that the President is to blame for everything?
    Diesel at 80. I'll look tomorrow, but last week there didn't seem to be any at SurgutNefteGaz.
    Rejoice, because More gasoline is consumed per 100 km.
    What to be happy about? If the retail price of diesel fuel increased by 12 percent, and 98 by only 8 percent?
    And I want to be glad that travel on public transport is not 36 rubles, but 27, as in January last year. That a kilo of salt is not 47, but 18. That rice and buckwheat have become cheaper again. And that after graduating from university, you can get a loan for a one-room apartment at 0.3 percent. And from the salary of a young specialist, repay the loan in 4-5 years. If you work 2 shifts, you can close the loan in 2 years.
    We live in exactly such a country. But not everyone in our country receives the same amount.
    1. alaarsen
      alaarsen 19 September 2023 08: 56
      +6
      Wow! What good country do you live in? Can a young specialist pay plus or minus 50 grand a month for a one-room apartment? That is, the salary of a young specialist should be 100? I won’t answer for other regions, let people write, here in Karachay-Cherkessia this is fantasy and not even scientific. Even 50 thousand salary is very large. 20-30. And “young specialists” are in little demand anywhere... And I haven’t heard anything about reducing food prices. On the contrary, my wife, after a recent trip to the store, was horrified...
  26. alaarsen
    alaarsen 19 September 2023 08: 48
    +6
    The author’s logic is interesting - 80 liters for diesel fuel is normal, because diesel consumes less?? And what side is consumption here? Maybe we need to talk about cost? Why such a price - because all commercial vehicles run on diesel fuel. So, whatever you want, you’ll be in charge! At least 80, at least 100. But there is a nuance - you will raise the prices for transportation. This means everything will become more expensive.
    1. your1970
      your1970 19 September 2023 12: 41
      0
      Quote: alaarsen
      the price is because all commercial vehicles run on diesel fuel. So, whatever you want, you’ll be in charge! At least 80, at least 100. But there is a nuance - you will raise the prices for transportation. This means everything will become more expensive.

      When Plato was introduced, the price increased by 1,2% on average, and carriers raised prices from 10 to 60%. Carriers needed a REASON to raise the price and they found one....
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  28. NetKeys
    NetKeys 19 September 2023 12: 59
    +1
    The ending and the brilliant discovery of how the economy will take off were at odds with the facts.
    World oil prices did not depend in any way on the introduction of a ban in Russia on the export of foreign currency abroad.
    The default took place on August 6-17, 1998. There was a huge public debt, as a consequence of constant external and internal loans. And so on.
    Dear EM Primakov became prime minister on 11.09.98/12.05.99/XNUMX and remained until XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX (Yeltsin hastened to eliminate the growing popularity of EM Primakov, who was loyal to the communist bloc).
    The connection between currency controls in Russia and world oil prices is zero.
    In 1998, the average world price for URALS from Russia was no more than $12 per barrel. The crisis in Southeast Asia, a blow to the entire world economy, falling demand for oil.
    In March 1999, a session of OPEC (oil exporting countries) was held. We agreed to reduce the oil production quota by 1 million barrels per day. Then the Russian Federation (an observer, not a member of OPEC) also supported OPEC and reduced production by 400 thousand barrels per day. By the end of 1999, the price of oil rose to $15. In 2000, it was about $18. Since 2001, an “economic miracle” began in China and other countries in Southeast Asia. By 2007, oil cost about $40. During the 2007-08 period, it jumped to $150.
    By the way, what was the price of gasoline in 98-99 in Russia when oil was 12 dollars? In the summer from 2.06 rubles for AI-92 to 2,68 rubles by December 98 after default, 30% more expensive. The average salary is 1051 rubles. Then in 1999 the price of a liter of gasoline reached 7 rubles.
  29. m..
    m.. 19 September 2023 15: 32
    +1
    Why is it not said about the cost of oil production, gasoline production, diesel fuel, as if the price should be based on this, but market rules don’t work here, prices are always rising,
  30. runway-1
    runway-1 19 September 2023 19: 24
    -1
    Quote: your1970
    Quote: alaarsen
    the price is because all commercial vehicles run on diesel fuel. So, whatever you want, you’ll be in charge! At least 80, at least 100. But there is a nuance - you will raise the prices for transportation. This means everything will become more expensive.

    When Plato was introduced, the price increased by 1,2% on average, and carriers raised prices from 10 to 60%. Carriers needed a REASON to raise the price and they found one....
    So, it’s good (i.e. bad, of course), but if the invisible hand of the market does not work for us, then where is the visible hand of the state? winked
  31. Dedok
    Dedok 22 September 2023 09: 26
    0
    Quote: Deck
    The price of a liter of gasoline in Russia is as follows: 26% - other taxes, 20% - excise taxes, 18% - refining and delivery, 13% - oil company income, 9% - gas station income, 8% - mineral extraction tax, 6% - the cost of producing oil itself.


    everything is fine, it would seem, but there is such a lens:
    The cost of Russian oil was estimated at $2 per barrel
    http://www.rbc.ru/business/22/03/2016/56f1aabc9a79477047ec82d2?from=main
    do the rest yourself
  32. woodcutter
    woodcutter 26 September 2023 08: 02
    0
    Nationalization is the way out. And they won't raise prices. And the ruble is becoming cheaper because of capitalism. To get more money. The people are suffering as always. Until the working class takes control of the country, nothing will be normal.