The first A-190-01 gun mount manufactured by Petrel and Motovilikh is ready

The web resource flotprom.ru citing a source in Nizhny Novgorod JSC "Burevestnik Central Research Institute" reported that the first production model of the improved 100-mm automatic ship artillery A-190-01 Universal made by OJSC "Burevestnik" successfully passed qualification tests, confirmed full compliance with the requirements of the customer and shipped to military shipbuilders to equip the small rocket ship "Grad Sviyazhsk" project 21631, being built at JSC "Zelenodolsk Shipbuilding Plant named after AM Gorky".

At the end of 2010, the government of Russia decided to organize the serial production of A-190-01 at OJSC Burevestnik Central Research Institute. This company is recognized as the most prepared for the manufacture of technical systems of such complexity. Production cooperation was formed with the inclusion of the leading enterprises of the artillery industry.

After the technical upgrading of production facilities and thorough technological preparation, a whole series of A-190-01 samples for naval ships being built under the State Armaments Program for the period up to 2020 was put into production.

At the same time, the specialists of the Central Research Institute "Burevestnik" carried out an improvement in the design of the artillery installation, relating to the transfer to the modern element base of electrical, hydraulic equipment and equipment of the automatic control system of the complex. These changes contribute to the reliability of the system.

The first production model of the new installation A-190-01 was manufactured and passed shooting tests in a large volume - more than 700 shots. The tests confirmed the full compliance of the installation with the requirements of technical conditions and the effectiveness of measures for its improvement. Confirmed the reliability of the gun.

The operation of the production and technological complex and the reliability of the Burevestnik Central Research Institute for Cooperation, such as OJSC Motovilikhinskie Zavody, OJSC Uraltransmash, OJSC Murommashzavod, OJSC VNII Signal, OJSC SKB PA, and others have been tested.

In the Petrel Research Institute, the A-190-01 samples are assembled and debugged according to the 2013 program of the year.

Meanwhile, before 14 in December 2012, the same resource flotprom.ru reported on the completion of the last A-190-01 A-20380-A-100 state-of-the-art artillery testing plant at the Arsenal Machine-Building Plant in St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg. According to a source in the Arsenal Machine-Building Plant OJSC, “in the coming days, the gun will be delivered from the landfill to the Northern Shipyard and assembled ano aboard the corvette "This is our last 130-millimeter gun, and now they will be releasing the Nizhny Novgorod" Petrel ". All efforts of our company will be focused on the creation of a new naval XNUMX-mm artillery installation "Kartaun" for the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov".

Comments

[Rustam]

here is the right decision - competition and again competition
handed over the production of "Petrel and business went

otherwise the former monopolist Arsenal plant constantly disrupted orders for both export and for our navy

[old rocket man]

Quote: Rustam

former monopolist Arsenal plant constantly disrupted orders

Well, you're too tough on Arsenal.
It must be remembered that Arsenaldeveloperdebugged, and after debugging handed over to the Petrel

[Rustam]

And then feel sorry for him
1) failure of contracts for the supply of guns
2) debugged ?? yes it seems no that's why they offered Melara because of constant marriages
3) it was debugged on the Petrels, improved and launched, would not praise
4) I would still put a couple of Oto Melar on the test for comparison - there are interesting samples

[evil hamster]

Dear you are not confusing anything? Petrel is a design bureau of A-190, and Arsenal is a serial plant, it is not clear why they debug it there, but the fact that they broke the deadlines for almost all Navy contracts is a fact.

[Sinbad]

This problem concerns many enterprises. The main research institutes, after the collapse of the military-industrial complex, instead of (well, if together) developing, fine-tuning and preparing a series of (R&D) new models, are engaged in serial production. But the specifics of the pilot plants does not provide for mass production, they are more universal, but much more expensive. Hence the high price, failure to meet deadlines, and often low quality. But more scary, in the long run, is a decrease in the scientific potential of these enterprises, a reduction, or even a complete cessation of work on new and promising products.

[postman]

Nikolay Bukhvalov, General Director of Motovilikhinsky Plants OJSC:
"... Of course, Motovilikhinskie Zavody took a chance when taking this order. It is impossible to become the No. 1 artillery factory in the country if Motovilikha "will not produce the most advanced weapons in all segments of artillery."
Starting next year, all Arsenal orders were transferred to Petrel. The system used to cost 300-400 million rubles, now it costs one and a half to two times cheaper - reported in USC.

[fantast]

To my shame, I do not know what kind of hose or wire goes along the barrel of the ship artillery systems. Dear experts, I will be grateful to you for an explanation of what it is and why?

[PROXOR]

Quote: fantast

To my shame, I do not know what kind of hose or wire goes along the barrel of the ship artillery systems. Dear experts, I will be grateful to you for an explanation of what it is and why?

I'm not special. But if I understand correctly everything is oil barrel cooling. Installation thrashes like an automatic gun, and the barrel overheats. To avoid barrel deformation from overheating, it is cooled with oil. I know and on Tunguska also the trunks are cooled by oil.

[fantast]

Thank you very much for the answers!

[postman]

Quote: PROXOR

this is oil barrel cooling.

overboard continuous cooling system
Why carry fire hazardous oil at sea when there is an unlimited number of water and water around

[PROXOR]

Quote: Postman

overboard continuous cooling system
Why carry fire hazardous oil at sea when there is an unlimited number of water and water around

Well, I suggested that butter and yes is logical. Is the trunk not exposed to terrible scum from sea water.

[postman]

Quote: PROXOR

Is the trunk not exposed to terrible scum from sea water.

This is if it boils, as in a machine gun Maxim. KEY FLOWING. They can maintain barrel temperature at sea water temperature. limitation on cavitation only.
If you have concerns
you can add scab from the formation of scale (as in a dishwasher and washing machine) - a joke ... of course there will be nothing
Marine grade steel: seawater resistant

[Wedmak]

Hour not cooling the barrel?

[old rocket man]

Quote: fantast

what kind of hose or wire goes along the ship’s barrel

This is a barrel cooling system hose

[postman]

Quote: fantast

what is it and why?

overboard continuous cooling system

[PROXOR]

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But in general. The topic of electromagnetic guns has been exaggerated for a long time. It would not be time for us to present something for installation on the ships of the Russian Navy!

[Van]

Quote: PROXOR

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But in general. The topic of electromagnetic guns has been exaggerated for a long time. It would not be time for us to present something for installation on the ships of the Russian Navy!

Nah, we’ll go ahead and start putting plasmogans right away.

[PROXOR]

Quote: Wang

Nah, we’ll go ahead and start putting plasmogans right away.

Well, the plasmogans are still far away. But the 100mm electromagnetic gun would be just right. Imagine an inertial strike on a target when a blank flies into the target at a speed of 6-7 max.

[tlauicol]

so far only this thing weighs like a half-corvette + an energy source of at least a hundred shots

[abc_alex]

.... and leaving a neat hole in the target flies on :) Armadillos of 1 MV were going to pierce such a thing? :)

And how marvelous is the phonite of the rail gun, creating a PLASMU in the barrel channel due to a spark charge, can you imagine? And how does this business beat with an EM pulse along the receiving circuits of the whole and all kinds of radars? :) And does the capacitance recharge time take MINUTES? Do you see the aiming system for hitting one moving target at another moving target when firing a blank over the horizon in a very gentle arc? :)

States after practical For now, they decided to confine themselves to conventional cannons for new destroyers, and for the railgun they came up with one single purpose - to throw corrected ammunition with buckshot over long distances :) It’s a kind of stationary catapult for the last stage of the rocket.

[tlauicol]

there will be no accurate hole - it will rather be like falling into a raw egg, or a meteorite falling, i.e. the corvette will be torn in half by an instant surge of energy. but otherwise solid faults, right

[Van]

Quote: PROXOR

Imagine an inertial strike on a target when a blank flies into the target at a speed of 6-7 max.

Yes, I can imagine this, but I can imagine a plasma charge that is capable of destroying with one salvo an area commensurate with the area of ​​the Tunguska meteorite falling ... "But even that, my imagination is no longer poking. "
Even if we consider (Electromagnetic Gun) an ideal weapon, then no later than in the initial period of the 20th century. As for me, it seems to me that not science is behind us, but we are behind science, unfortunately ...

[old rocket man]

Great news, everything was finally resolved, to everyone’s satisfaction. There were many moans about the quality of the installation. Serious systems always go through a series of improvements based on the results of military trials.
No less joyful is the news of the development of a 130mm mount, it's time to shut up Otto Melar, restore the unconditional leadership of the Russian artillery

[Su24]

Remember, according to Russian classification, a small rocket ship is not a corvette tax?

[Bronis]

NATO is exactly how the corvette is classifying. We, it seems, are also switching to something similar. But only "Buyan-M" is called the MRK, not the corvette. "Guarding" is called a corvette. But so they have different seaworthiness with a displacement. The first is a river-sea and 950 tons, the second is a near sea zone and 2000 tons.
So, probably, we have a separation of RTOs and corvettes. At least for now.

[123dv]

Glory to you, Lord!
Well, and our factory is also well done !!!


My dream is to look at the new hundred thirty.

[Nechai]

A190 100-mm single-gun ship universal automatic artillery mount.
Developer: Central Research Institute "Burevestnik", Nizhny Novgorod
Серия:
FSUE (?) "Arsenal"
JSC "Motovilikhinskie Zavody" (since 2011)
The main features of the AU A190Э:
- high rate of fire
- high accuracy of fire;
- reliability and ease of maintenance;
- the possibility of simultaneous readiness for firing two different types of ammunition;
- remote control and high efficiency tracking systems;
- modern design.
AU is intended for effective firing at sea, air and coastal targets.
AU A190E in comparison with existing analogues is characterized by low weight and overall dimensions, unified with many foreign AUs with a caliber of 76 mm. The latter circumstance can significantly increase the firepower and combat effectiveness of the ship with the preservation of its stability and driving performance.
In any weather conditions, the AC serves to defeat:
- air targets (combat aircraft, helicopters, anti-ship missiles), including at low and ultra-low altitudes;
- marine targets (surface ships and ships);
- coastal (ground) targets, as well as artillery support for amphibious assault forces and ground forces in coastal directions. AC is operated in the temperature range from -40 ° to + 50 ° C, as well as in tropical climates.
AU A190E single-gun, lightweight, turret type with automatic feeding of a unitary cartridge from the turret compartment in the firing line; has protection against the impact of the shock wave of an atomic explosion. On an individual order, protection can be performed using the "STEALTH" technology.
The original constructive solution of the double-sided separate ammunition supply system provided the possibility of independent supply of ammunition, which made it possible to increase the rate of fire of the guns by one and a half times compared to guns of a similar caliber.
Aim guidance at the target is carried out from the firing control system from a central post or from an aiming device from an autonomous control post located at the AU.
AU conducts automatic firing or firing single shots with any guidance method.
AU combat survivability is enhanced by providing the ability to fire in the absence of power.
Performance characteristics:
Caliber, mm 100
Barrel length, klb 59
Rate of fire, rds / min about 80
Firing range, km over 20
Vertical guidance angle, deg. from -15 to + 85
Projectile weight, kg 15,6
Ammunition at the gun mount,
ready for automatic shooting 80
Gun mount weight (without ammunition),
tons 15
Operating temperature, C from -40 to +50

Such a "super-cutting" not only "tomahawks", but also hypersonic targets can be chopped, "salted". If the means of detection and guidance will not fail.
Introduced such a thing on your favorite half a penny - Well vrazhiny, waited ...

[postman]

Quote: Nechai

Such a "super-cutting" not only "tomahawks", but also hypersonic targets can be chopped, "salted". If the means of detection and guidance will not fail.

There are still problems:
The sailors say that the "Universal" is not at all universal and on corvettes they try to shoot less often from it.

- The manufacturer's stated rate of fire of 80 rounds per minute was not checked. If you turn on the normal mode, then after the third or fourth shot the gun will jam: either the sleeve is skewed, or the lifting mechanisms loose. There are problems with the charging system. Every time a new defect. Therefore, we shoot only single. The system is poorly designed and even worse manufactured at the factory, ”said one of the fleet officers.

"Station wagons" also showed themselves poorly on Indian frigates of Russian production Talwar, Trishul and Tabar. According to a representative of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) who is familiar with the situation, the Indians have repeatedly expressed their complaints to Rosoboronexport, because they also do not risk firing at the maximum rate of fire.

Test shooting of the 100-mm gun mount A-190 of the frigate INS Teg (F45), Baltic, 22.12.2011/XNUMX/XNUMX

[abc_alex]

So in my ear for music, there’s just about 60-80 rounds per minute on the video. I am mistaken? Or are we talking about problems with firing the entire ammunition at that pace?

[postman]

Quote: abc_alex

just about 60-80

just somewhere around 60, but not 80.
It was a test.
conceived.
got home (india)
And the battle is not coming out yet

[tlauicol]

I am surprised at their patience: either the boat will break down, then the gun, then the aircraft carrier is not ready. so you can stay without customers

[Flooding]

Quote: Nechai

The original constructive solution of the double-sided separate ammunition supply system provided the possibility of independent supply of ammunition, which made it possible to increase the rate of fire of the guns by one and a half times compared to guns of a similar caliber.

The old man AK-100 has a rate of fire of 60 rounds. per minute.
When tested on an Indian frigate, the A-190 issued 70 instead of the declared 80 rounds. per minute. In addition, there were serious problems when firing bursts. From the article it is absolutely not clear whether the system was brought, since serious claims were made in due time.

I think it's too early to talk about a decent replacement for the AK-100.

[PLO]

A-190 is a replacement for AK-176, and a replacement for AK-100 will be A-192 Cartown

[Flooding]

Quote: olp

A-190 is a replacement for AK-176, and a replacement for AK-100 will be A-192 Cartown

Of course, I do not pretend to be a professional in artillery, but I do not think that the 100-mm gun mount A-190 is designed to replace the 76-mm AK-176.
Just like the 130 mm A-192 is the successor to the AK-130 of the same caliber, but not the 100 mm AK-100.

[PLO]

nevertheless it is so
A-190 is actually an enlarged AK-176, because of this, it had problems with reliability for a long time, because the mechanisms could not withstand the increased loads of 100mm shells
At the moment, the A-190 is the most powerful and compact AU of this caliber
note that it is installed on exactly 500 t MAKi and other small ships, which previously stood AK-176
now everything is in order with her, recently there was a video from the tests of Makhachkala, where she shot at a maximum speed 2/3 of the ammunition (80 shells in total)

AK-100 will be replaced by A-192, and AK-130 will be replaced by Coalition-F

[Flooding]

Quote: olp

AK-100 will be replaced by A-192, and AK-130 will be replaced by Coalition-F

Yes, from that perspective it makes sense. With regards to the Coalition-F, also returned to single-barrel execution, as well as the land option? Or so far no reliable information?

[evil hamster]

However, it is so, the A-190 is specially lightened and climbs the shoulder strap of the AK 176

[PLO]

A-190 is specially facilitated and climbs into shoulder straps AK 176

By the way, it’s exactly according to this scheme that the A-100 will be made of AK-192
in autumn, the possibility of installing the AK-100 on Gorshkov due to the unavailability of the A-192 was discussed, they said then that their uniforms are the same

[understudy]

In order not to cause ridicule, I warn you, not special.
But the cooling hose hanging without any protection causes, to put it mildly, some bewilderment. A splinter, a bullet ... and that's it?

[postman]

Quote: Understudy

A splinter, a bullet ... and that's it?

Replacement in 10 minutes, in the event of a complete rupture, with minor damage, the feed system will provide flow to both the barrel and the gap
A flexible hose is needed. Pay attention to the "behavior" of the barrel when shooting

[mr.Man]

It will be less likely to shoot, so that the barrel does not overheat and that's all ...
The barrel is movable and does not make a full-length casing like a Maxim machine gun ...

[mr.Man]

It will be less likely to shoot, so that the barrel does not overheat and that's all ...
The barrel is movable and does not make a full-length casing like a Maxim machine gun ...

[Nechai]

Quote: Postman

- The manufacturer's stated rate of fire of 80 rounds per minute was not checked. If you turn on the normal mode, then after the third or fourth shot the gun will jam: either the sleeve is skewed, or the lifting mechanisms loose.

Vasily, these facts are for sure only talk about RAW PRODUCTION technology and its QUALITY, but not about the design itself. Experienced, experimental samples were shot in ALL MODES. I came across frames - all 80 stamilimitrovy unitars at a time - SIMPLY FUCKING !!! A falling flurry of fire! Awesome.
So that you need to understand. With technologists, equipment, materials. And most importantly, with the qualifications and motivation of the WORKERS! The attitude will continue - "Hey, you come here! Let's go!" Will continue to wedge and fall apart ... "You pretend that you are paying us. We pretend that we are working ..."

[postman]

Quote: Nechai

Vasily, these facts are for sure only speak of RAW PRODUCTION technology and its QUALITY, but not the design itself.

And I have never claimed this (some people misunderstand the text, you need to read like this: we are not stupid (but the Americans and the EU are not stupid). There is a limitation on technology (machines, technological base, raw materials, etc.), production culture, map of operations and so on ...

Here is a living example: we bought a Toyo pump in the spring of 12 (it sits on the boom of an excavator, descends into a quarry filled with water, pumps the pulp (water_sand + stones), water to the side, sand gravel into another. excavators (with the same fuel and lubricants costs), wear is minimal.with Belgian adaptation). The pump grunted (the Belgians forgot to lay eternal lubrication). The essence and the matter (warranty and replacement). We decided to change the bearing (main): there is none. Precision processing (that of the shaft, that of the landing bearing, that of the bearing itself), we do not produce AT ALL (input, sand, dirt works) without a centralized lubrication system, the whole life cycle. Waited from Japan.

[Nechai]

Quote: Postman

Precision processing (that of the shaft, that of the landing bearing, that of the bearing itself), we do not produce AT ALL (input, sand, dirt works) without a centralized lubrication system, the whole life cycle. Waited from Japan.

In Samara, a pitiful shadow from the bearing enterprises has remained. Rather, ONE "sequestered", and that balls and rollers from China are lucky. But back in the early 90s, the Chinese people on their own, in order to sell at a higher price, knocked out the brands of our factories. Now that 4GPZ is not in sight, there are countless shopping centers more needed. The Scientific Production Institute of the Bearing Industry is gone. The plant producing precision bearings (including less poppy seed) has sunk into oblivion - well, there were no orders for such products.

[postman]

Quote: Nechai

bearing enterprises.

I know the PZ topic is very muddy. There is a decree of the FCS, there are OBEP "operations" (on imports). There is a sale of confiscated goods. Complete nonsense.
Stalin (although I am not his supporter at all) bought the PRODUCERS of PRODUCTION PRODUCTS (senior group A). ​​And we have a pancake Stab fund and Central Bank money at 1,5% (for us) work there.
No: buy equipment for the production of equipment (state-owned enterprise) and sausage. It will pay off in a year.
like stories with crude oil. there is no modern refinery, so we drive crude, and the Leipzigogsky refinery

[Kars]

Quote: Postman

Stalin (although I am by no means his supporter) procured the production of MEANS OF PRODUCTION (Art. Group A

I also often point out this when it comes to pre-war cooperation with Germany. The stabilization fund seems to help the United States more than supply raw materials to Hitler before the war.

[postman]

Quote: Kars

The Stab Fund seems to be helping the US more than the supply of raw materials to Hitler before the war.

I was kidding: 2011 (ending) Kudrin reports GDP:
that’s what we are good and competent economists placing the Stub and future generations have earned Only a% so much the ruble (I don’t remember the amount).
Zap year.
Counted from the money lying there, received 1,05% (or something about this percentage of the annual.
Well and at fuy such business is needed?

Sberbank would give back at the Central Bank's refinancing rate (something in the region of 11-12%). Where is the gesheft?
If the ANN worked like this for me on a cameral, it would have 100% delivered the verdict- CHERNER, and would have lost:
And here - "very" competent specialists. Come on, at least in Switzerland, and then in the United States.
That's what happens with us

[webdog]

postman, you yourself wailed what you wrote?
is that bad for you?)))
decrypt your cuneiform, please ...

[postman]

Quote: webdog

Tallon, did you yourself lament what you wrote?

Well, if I wrote, then I read.

Quote: webdog

decrypt your cuneiform, please ...

If grammatical flaws - not arr. Attention: No busy time.
Or something in the sense of not very ?????

[Sinbad]

I remember in the early 80s they made some kind of shaft for the FRG, they couldn’t do it anywhere else in the world.
And with the beginning of perestroika, the first thing we destroyed was tool production, as a result, today we are almost completely dependent on the import of tools and equipment.

[postman]

Quote: Sinbad

80s made some kind of shaft for

And where? I don't remember that
Pipe production yes, on FRG machines (after the US embargo)

[homosum20]

The news is a trifle - but nice.

[Uncle Lyosha]

yes yes gentlemen tonight this beauty delivered to their destination

[goldnike-777]

Russia, new weapons: stealth ship
http://goldnike-777.blogspot.com/2012/05/blog-post_1782.html

[gregor6549]

A comparative assessment of universal naval artillery is available at http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_artillery
Of course, the cooling hose is somewhat embarrassing, but I would like to hope that this "sausage" is only on a prototype, and for serial products they will come up with something more solid.

[Cher]

Cannon gamno. We wanted the best, it turned out as always.