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Why do people respect Stalin?

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Why do people respect Stalin?



The growing popularity of Stalin and the USSR


According to survey Agency of Political and Economic Communications (APEC), 65% of respondents speak positively about Stalin, 20% - negatively. Moreover, the approval rate has increased almost 1,5 times since the beginning of the XNUMXs.

This practically coincides with the results of recent surveys of other research centers, from which it is also obvious that Stalin is at the peak of the rating, having greatly increased compared to the early 2000s. Thus, according to one of the latest sociological surveys, the number of those who treat the Soviet generalissimo with respect (47%), admiration (7%) and sympathy (9%) reaches 63%. Another 23% say they are indifferent. It is interesting that according to the results of the Russian Field survey, Leonid Brezhnev is almost as good as him - 61% of positive and 17% of negative assessments.

Thus, the common people in Russia positively and highly evaluate the activities of the two Soviet leaders - Stalin and Brezhnev. Under Stalin, we became an industrial and military superpower with nuclear power. weapons, won the Great Patriotic War, defeated Japan. Stalin's USSR offered humanity an alternative global project based on social justice. This allowed us to create our own sphere of influence on the planet - the socialist camp, plus friendly third world countries (for example, India).

Under Brezhnev there was a “golden age” of Soviet society, stability, peace and order, consistent development of the national economy, with a constant increase in the level of well-being of the people. There is parity with the collective West in the military, space and technological spheres.

The image of the future


Why is the image of Stalin popular among the people?

The answer is that The Russian Federation does not have an image of the future, its own concept (plan) of life. After the collapse of the USSR, the leadership of the Russian Federation one way or another began to follow the Western development project, which has essentially become global. This is a parasitic, predatory formation - capitalism, with the division of people into “chosen ones” - the rich, wealthy and “losers”, slaves-consumers.

Как confessed this year, the head of the Russian Federation V. Putin - “Russia previously tried to become “our own”, “bourgeois” for Western countries, including being ready to join NATO.”

Much earlier, back in December 1999, a theoretical article by then Prime Minister V. Putin “Russia at the turn of the millennium” was published, in which his first goal was the catching-up development of the Russian Federation indicated Portugal: “In order to achieve per capita GDP production at the level of modern Portugal and Spain, countries that are not among the leaders of the world economy, we will need approximately 15 years with a GDP growth rate of at least 8% per year.”

Focusing on the Western project, European civilization, The Russian “elite”, not having its own image of the future, began to look for it in the past. Found in the Russian Empire - the so-called. balls and crunch of French bread. The Russian Empire sold raw materials to Europe. The wildest social division of society, when selected educated classes and social groups were a kind of European colonizers in wild, predominantly peasant-bast-foot Russia. The main languages ​​of the elite were German, French and English. Aristocrats, owners of banks, factories, steamships and latifundia lived for years or even most of their lives in Paris, Berlin and Zurich, while farm laborers, peasants and workers worked for them. In terrible conditions, with an average life expectancy of 30–35 years. When nobles and intellectuals lived twice as long.

Hence the love for white generals. In particular, to Denikin or Kolchak. In 2016 St. Petersburg have established memorial plaque in honor of Finnish Field Marshal Karl Mannerheim. The head of the Kremlin administration Sergei Ivanov and the Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation Vladimir Medinsky took part in the installation ceremony of the memorial. Although for the majority of patriots, Russians who remember history, Mannerheim, together with Hitler, established the blockade of Leningrad, in which hundreds of thousands of civilians died.

The elite of the Russian Federation, the new owners of banks, factories, ships and newspapers, really wanted to become a kind of “new nobles”. A chosen and inviolable caste among the “dense” people.

Hence, by the way, the optimization of education. Thus, one of the current ideologists and idols of the elite V. Zhirinovsky in 2012 said: “The better the education, the faster the revolution will take place and destroy those who introduced this education system. Therefore, the government’s self-preservation instinct kicks in and it introduces a lower level of education.”

Social justice


It is clear that Russian society, which has still retained much from Russian and Soviet culture and level of education, does not like all this very much. The people see in the past a different image of the future - a society of knowledge, service and creation. Where a person is not a consumer-slave, but a creator-creator. Society for Social Justice and Ethics of Conscience, where a Stakhanovite worker, ace pilot, professor and scientist could earn more than the Minister of the USSR. Where social elevators worked, and one could get an education according to one’s intellectual potential, and the 10th child in a family of a peasant and a worker could become an academician, a marshal and an astronaut.

The Stalinist USSR is much more responsive to the people's demand for justice, truth - the main code-matrix of Russian civilization and the Russian superethnos. This is the discrepancy between the images of the future of the new Russian nobility and the people. This same fundamental contradiction between the two “peoples” of the Russian Empire - the nobility and the deep people - became the basic precondition for the disaster of 1917.

The liberal, pro-Western public, starting from perestroika, actively denigrated and threw mud at the image of Stalin and his era in general. They tried to turn victories into defeats, successes into failures. We reached the point of comparing Stalin with Hitler, the Stalinist USSR with the Third Reich. Liberal, Western propaganda created the image of Stalin the cannibal, the worst character in the history of mankind.

However, the people retained a different image. The pendulum swung back. Yes, there were repressions, but who fell under the purges - the fifth column, the Basmachi, Bandera, Baltic Nazis, Trotskyists, thieves, saboteurs. For that there was something that does not exist now - justice, the highest responsibility of the authorities to the people (failures were punished to the death penalty), rapid growth of the national economy, low prices and regular reductions in prices for basic goods, free housing. The best education in the world. Breakthrough projects aimed at the future. The best army in the world. Superpower, socialist community. China was the little brother. Everyone in the world respected the Russians, even their enemies.

Hence the complete discrepancy between the images of the future in the past between the elite and the people. Hence the attitude towards Stalin. At least two-thirds of the country respects him. Representatives of the new nobility hate him. True, lately they have been trying to “privatize” the image of the great leader.

The image of the future Russian world must be based on codes that are basic for the people - justice-truth, ethics of conscience. An attempt to include Russia and the Russian people in the Western “digital concentration camp” or the Chinese “social rating” will end very badly. Russia will not be “bourgeois”.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 15 September 2023 04: 00
    +15
    Society for Social Justice and Ethics of Conscience
    Feel the difference !
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 15 September 2023 06: 13
      -4
      Only on all this you cannot build a powerful industry, science, or an advanced army. On the ethics of conscience.
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 16 September 2023 18: 14
        +6
        Only on all this you cannot build a powerful industry, science, or an advanced army. On the ethics of conscience.
        Of course, you can’t build on the ethics of conscience. The countdown is based on it. And they build a workforce that is educated in this ethic and cares not about their own pockets, but about the cause. I don’t idealize people, there were a lot of grabbers and grabbers, but this was condemned and not exalted, as it is now.
    2. your1970
      your1970 15 September 2023 06: 22
      -43
      Apart from figures about the attitude towards Stalin, the article is naked propaganda and rattling slogans, nothing more.
      “Little brother China” - who killed the border guards of his older brother and supplied weapons to Afghanistan for US dollars - there is no need for enemies if there are such “brothers” .... The people saw one thing, listened to another, thought a third, and did a fourth...
      It was precisely such propaganda that killed faith in the USSR by the end of its existence. The population no longer cared, they stopped trusting the authorities and did not defend the USSR.
      Previously, generals shot themselves out of shame and without origin - whites, ours, Germans, after the collapse of the USSR, none of the generals were sterilized from the shame of betraying the oath

      And even now this propaganda is intended to cause crap for advertising, nothing more...
      1. Chack wessel
        Chack wessel 15 September 2023 07: 48
        +28
        China killed border guards and supplied weapons to Afghanistan during the time of Stalin!?
        1. your1970
          your1970 15 September 2023 13: 03
          -10
          Quote: Chack Wessel
          China killed border guards and supplied weapons to Afghanistan during the time of Stalin!?

          Quote: kor1vet1974
          Or even during the time of Stalin? That is, during the time of Stalin, the USSR built factories in China

          Did the USSR end with the death of Stalin?!! Wow...
          And yes, because it doesn’t reach - if people praise exclusively period Stalin's leadership this means automatically that there is no general socialism as building there was no such thing in the USSR. There were periods of rule by different people in approximately the same, no more...
          That's the problem...
          Quote: Doccor18
          Would a similar article about Chernenko "srach for advertising"? Most likely, she would hardly have been noticed.

          If after Stalin’s death “Stalin’s socialism” stopped and almost the opposite “Khrushchev’s socialism” began - the meaning of the concept single the structure disappeared.
          Simply due to the fact that the Leader died and the system immediately changed
          No, formally the label "socialism" and the slogan "Everything around is people's - everything around is nobody's!" remained, but the filling changed dramatically....
          MSG completed “socialism with a human face” before the collapse of the USSR.
          And yet, based on your logic, socialism was not viable- too depended heavily on the leader.
          It turns out - the Leader of Stalin-Ur was caught, the rotten Voshd MSG was caught - and there is no USSR
      2. kor1vet1974
        kor1vet1974 15 September 2023 08: 10
        +14
        “Little brother China” - who killed the border guards of his older brother and supplied weapons to Afghanistan for US dollars - no enemies needed
        It’s when they bowed out to China under Khrushchev, so what? Or even during the time of Stalin? That is, during the time of Stalin, the USSR built factories in China, and they shot at our border guards, but can you name an incident of those times?
      3. Doccor18
        Doccor18 15 September 2023 09: 16
        +16
        Quote: your1970
        And even now this propaganda is intended to cause crap for advertising, nothing more...

        Would such an article about Chernenko cause a “shit for advertising”? Most likely, she would hardly have been noticed. 70 years have passed since the Leader of the Nations died, and articles about him invariably arouse interest and “srach”... This already says a lot. Moreover, even young people are interested in this topic, which means let there be such “advertising”, because it also encourages them to start studying history, thinking and soberly assessing what happened, because today it is especially important to soberly assess what is happening around...
      4. kor1vet1974
        kor1vet1974 15 September 2023 10: 11
        +13
        And even now this propaganda is intended to cause crap for advertising, nothing more...
        Of course, under Soviet rule, you rattled Friendship in shackles with a chainsaw, you probably dedicated your entire adult life, crippled, to the fight against it. laughing laughing laughing
      5. atos_kin
        atos_kin 15 September 2023 10: 52
        +20
        Quote: your1970
        after the collapse of the USSR, none of the generals were protected from the shame of betraying the oath

        “I can’t live when my Fatherland is dying and everything that I have always considered the meaning in my life is being destroyed. Age and my past life give me the right to die. I fought to the end.” Marshall S.F. Akhromeev. August 24, 1991
        1. your1970
          your1970 15 September 2023 20: 34
          -8
          Quote: atos_kin
          Marshall S.F. Akhromeev. August 24, 1991

          In 1991, he stated that we had 1939 generals in the USSR Armed Forces, there were about 110 generals in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, he couldn’t find them in the KGB, but about 10 for sure.
          1/2000=statistical error. The rest believed that the oath had not been changed.....
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 16 September 2023 11: 09
            +2
            The rest believed that the oath had not been changed.....
            The oath read: "I am always ready by order of the Soviet Government to come out in defense of my Motherland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics..." Was there such an order?
            1. your1970
              your1970 18 September 2023 11: 55
              0
              Quote: Aviator_
              The rest believed that the oath had not been changed.....
              The oath read: "I am always ready by order of the Soviet Government to come out in defense of my Motherland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics..." Was there such an order?

              That is, without an order? Purely tables to convey information to the rank and file?
              However, the arrival of M. Rust confirms your thesis “No way without an order!”..
              But the question arises - why then is the entire air defense command needed - if Rust had to twist the cops’ hands?

              Quote from Ceburec59
              Minister Pugo, also a general, shot himself...
              2 out of 2000 generals...
              1998 generals scratched their ears: “There was no order to shoot…”
        2. Ceburec59
          Ceburec59 17 September 2023 20: 48
          0
          Minister Pugo, also a general, shot himself...
      6. qQQQ
        qQQQ 15 September 2023 21: 11
        0
        Quote: your1970
        Previously, generals shot themselves out of shame and without origin - whites, ours, Germans, after the collapse of the USSR, none of the generals were sterilized from the shame of betraying the oath

        Yes, the elite was crushing, they wanted palaces and pitchforks. We tried, and finally realized that we are enemies of the West, regardless of the system. But we, although belatedly, have come to understand that no one needs us except ourselves, and you are in Ukraine for the second time using the same rake, with the idea that someone needs you for something more than working cattle .
        1. igork735
          igork735 18 September 2023 11: 39
          +1
          I would add - I wanted to live. I flew out of my chair - vacate the state-owned dacha, go for a drive in your own car. So, in my opinion, it was more correct
      7. ivan2022
        ivan2022 16 September 2023 17: 45
        +1
        Quote: your1970
        The population no longer cared, they stopped trusting the authorities and did not defend the USSR.
        Previously, generals shot themselves out of shame and without origin - whites, ours, Germans, after the collapse of the USSR, none of the generals were sterilized from the shame of betraying the oath

        And even now this propaganda is intended to cause crap for advertising, nothing more...


        The population doesn't care as long as there is something to eat. And if there is nothing to eat, it goes after those who promise this food.

        And there’s no point in creating the standard image of an “honest but deceived people by everyone.” In other words, the standard image of an idiotic people.

        People always get what they deserve. When he deserved Stalin, he got Stalin. When you deserve Yeltsin, you get Yeltsin. When he deserves Hitler, he will get Hitler.
    3. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 15 September 2023 08: 12
      +5
      Society for Social Justice and Ethics of Conscience
      Are you talking about beauty today?
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 15 September 2023 10: 39
        +1
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        Are you talking about beauty today?

        This is me talking about the beautiful yesterday. Today see above! hi
    4. Romanovski
      Romanovski 16 September 2023 23: 00
      +1
      "...Under Brezhnev there was a “golden age” of Soviet society, stability, peace and order, consistent development of the national economy, with a constant increase in the level of well-being of the people...."".
      -----
      Not quite like that...Or not at all like that...Under Brezhnev (whose daughter and son-in-law were deeply mired in corruption...) - stagnation began in the USSR economy and the flourishing of corruption, embezzlement and various organized crime groups (under the tutelage of "law enforcement officers" ... .naturally). And the roguish Gorbachev simply finished off the USSR with a “control shot” and moved (!!??) to live in Germany...
  2. Luminman
    Luminman 15 September 2023 04: 33
    +18
    Liberal, pro-Western общественность, starting with perestroika, actively denigrated and slandered the image of Stalin, his era in general

    This is not the public, but scoundrels and scum, who even now continue to crow from YouTube channels about what a wonderful democracy we had under Alkash and what bright managers, like the Gaidars, Nemtsovs, Chubais and similar scoundrels, carried out reforms in our country, destroying the population, industry, military and agriculture. Fuck them, all of them...
    1. Mishka78
      Mishka78 15 September 2023 09: 05
      +12
      Quote: Luminman
      scoundrels and scum who even now continue to crow from YouTube channels about what a wonderful democracy we had under Alkash and what bright managers, like the Gaidars, Nemtsovs, Chubais and similar scoundrels, carried out reforms in our country, destroying the population, industry, military forces and agriculture.

      Sorry, but what has changed today? Exactly the same scoundrels from federal channels sing the same songs.
      Finished “reforms” such as pensions, healthcare, and education continue to be carried out, the indigenous population continues to be destroyed, being replaced by migrants, factories have turned into shopping and business centers, the armed forces, as it turned out, have been engaged in fraud at biathlons for many years, etc.
      I don’t remember who said it, but I really liked the words.
      Under Stalin there was a cult of personality, yes. But there was also a personality. What now? The cult is being aggressively propagated, but there is no personality...
  3. UrraletZ
    UrraletZ 15 September 2023 04: 40
    +25
    Some idiots have “famines”, while other crazy people have “repressions”. Your name is LEGION...
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 15 September 2023 05: 48
      +9
      Quote: UrraletZ
      Some idiots have “famines”, while other crazy people have “repressions”. Your name is LEGION...

      The name of all this is capitalism, the strategy is the consolidation of inequality, and the tactics are divide and conquer...
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 15 September 2023 06: 47
      +12
      "repression"

      Legend has it that before his execution, Stepan Razin bowed from the scaffold to four directions and said:
      - Sorry, Russian people. Forgive me not for the fact that the boyars hanged - forgive me for the fact that I didn’t hang enough.
  4. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 15 September 2023 04: 54
    +19
    Stalin built a powerful state by laying a solid foundation in its foundation in the form of industrialization and electrification of the entire country.
    After Brezhnev, the reverse process of destruction of the country began, which continues to this day. request
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 15 September 2023 05: 46
      +14
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      After Brezhnev, the reverse process of destruction of the country began, which continues to this day.

      I would say that immediately after Stalin the reverse process began...
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 15 September 2023 06: 08
        +14
        that immediately after Stalin the reverse process began...
        Yes, after the 20th Congress, the process began...
        1. UrraletZ
          UrraletZ 18 September 2023 15: 02
          0
          With the assassination of Stalin, young Trotskyists emerged.
    2. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 15 September 2023 08: 06
      +13
      After Brezhnev, the reverse process of destruction of the country began
      The reverse process began under Khrushchev, it was not Brezhnev who announced an amnesty for Bandera’s followers and other traitors; under Brezhnev, by the way, they were intensively looking for war criminals...
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 15 September 2023 05: 28
    +11
    V. Putin - “Russia used to try to become “our own”, “bourgeois” for Western countries, including being ready to join NATO.”
    But we didn’t know and didn’t see... But as it turns out, laughing
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 15 September 2023 05: 44
    +18
    Why do people respect Stalin?

    Under Stalin, the people saw real successes and victories and were not afraid of their future.
    I won’t repeat myself about Stalin’s legacy.
    I will dwell only on one feature of that time, about which Dovlatov wrote:
    We endlessly curse Comrade Stalin, and, of course, for the cause. And yet I want to ask; who wrote four million denunciations? (This figure appeared in closed party documents.) Dzerzhinsky? Yezhov? Abakumov and Yagoda?
    Nothing like this. They were written by ordinary Soviet people. Does this mean that Russians are a nation of informers and snitches? In no case. The trends of the historical moment simply affected.

    And today we see with our own eyes what kind of “acts” the current nomenklatura, primitively educated and geared towards sycophancy, is capable of.
    In their desire to mock the citizens of Russia, they do not disdain anything for the sake of their position. And the scene:

    has become a classic example of relationships in the upper echelons of power... At the same time, nothing significant can be created - the main thing is that the language is well defined.
  7. Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 15 September 2023 06: 09
    +8
    An attempt to include Russia and the Russian people in the Western “digital concentration camp” or the Chinese “social rating” will end very badly

    Already in the digital concentration camp, although with a reservation about our crookedness and negligence, children began to be “digitized.” They talk one thing from the podium, but do the exact opposite, at the behest of the IMF. You don't have to look far for examples. Read this site, in the news section there is a parallel reality in which “everything is beautiful.”
  8. Andrey Moskvin
    Andrey Moskvin 15 September 2023 06: 25
    +3
    plus friendly third world countries (for example India).

    Do our friends in India know what kind of world we have given them?
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 15 September 2023 10: 21
      +1
      in India they know what kind of world we have given them
      They themselves recognize what kind of world they are in and try to get out of there.
  9. Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 September 2023 06: 37
    +19
    What’s interesting is that after more than thirty years they will now rush to prove to us how bad the USSR was. But this is not 1989. We can already compare. Whether the Soviet Union is bad or good, but, gentlemen, scolders, then find something good in now.
    Why is Stalin’s popularity growing, because under Stalin it was several times better. (sorry for not writing ignorant “nonsense”).
    1. AUL
      AUL 15 September 2023 09: 02
      +9
      So the more chaos, lies and rot in the current reality, the higher the desire for order and justice of Stalin's times!
      1. Alf
        Alf 15 September 2023 19: 13
        +2
        Quote from AUL
        So the more chaos, lies and rot in the current reality, the higher the desire for order and justice of Stalin's times!

    2. bober1982
      bober1982 15 September 2023 10: 21
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      Sorry for not writing ignorant "nonsense"

      Yes, “at times” is a redneck expression, a mutant word.
      "Raz" does not have its own plural form.
  10. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 15 September 2023 07: 06
    +15
    I will not talk about the flaws of capitalism. Many people know about this. In the new conditions, capitalism imposes such qualities on a person that were even condemned in the Russian Empire. This is a departure from paternalism. That is, from the respect of younger fathers and mothers, teachers. Society is being divided into atoms. This was called for from the highest stands when they said - " The state does not owe you anything." Many capsules of small societies, capsules of individual people who had nothing to do with society appeared. If in the USSR many children were united by many circles and sections on a free basis. Many scientists remember with gratitude their teachers, masters who gave them a ticket into life. Now many people live on their own. And they are not at all interested in what is going on around them. And only when their interests are hurt do they begin to be indignant.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 15 September 2023 11: 12
      +2
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Society is being divided into atoms.

      Absolutely agree!
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Many capsules of small societies appeared, capsules of individual people who had nothing to do with society.

      And this is a conscious line that has been pursued for several decades. Community is deliberately destroyed, turning everyone into a snail with its own shell on its back. But this shell is not at all as strong as the word itself, it is easy to crush, and this is precisely what is incredibly beneficial for the new rulers of the world...
    2. Yuri Vasilyev
      Yuri Vasilyev 15 September 2023 14: 08
      0
      Here! This is called the atomization of society, if simply put my house is on the edge. Nobody teaches collectivism and mutual assistance for a long time, but personal success.
  11. FoBoss_VM
    FoBoss_VM 15 September 2023 07: 56
    +16
    The growth of Stalin's popularity is due to only two reasons: the people are INSANELY tired of the chaos and the permissiveness of the authorities. People have a colossal demand for strong power. And the country also wants a tough and patriotic leader. Not a babble in words, and red-line in deeds. And so he would hit the table in the Kremlin with his fist, and in Washington they would already have a fight. And with a 100% guarantee
    1. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 15 September 2023 08: 04
      +4
      People have a colossal demand for strong power
      Strong power, maybe under the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, Napoleon, Hitler and the dictatorship of the proletariat Lenin, Stalin ..
      1. Luminman
        Luminman 15 September 2023 08: 19
        -4
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        Strong power, maybe even under the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, Napoleon, Hitler

        Are you sure that Hitler is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie? wink
        1. kor1vet1974
          kor1vet1974 15 September 2023 10: 15
          +5
          laughing Proletariat in your opinion, yes? laughing Because his party was called the National Socialist Workers' Party? Yes? And if this is the name, then of course Hitler created a “proletarian” state. So in your opinion? laughing
        2. Doccor18
          Doccor18 15 September 2023 11: 53
          +5
          Quote: Luminman
          Are you sure that Hitler is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie?

          Krupp, Flick, Bosch, Waltz and many others had no doubt about this then...
          1. Luminman
            Luminman 15 September 2023 12: 02
            -9
            Quote: Doccor18
            Krupp, Flick, Bosch, Waltz and many others had no doubt about this then...

            They all sat under the bunk under Hitler... wink
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 15 September 2023 12: 11
              +8
              Quote: Luminman
              sat under the bunk...

              Yeah, earning billions by issuing profitable loans... Yes, they directly sponsored the NSDAP and made Hitler Reich Chancellor. Who was "sitting under who's bunk" can be seen with the naked eye. wink
              1. Luminman
                Luminman 15 September 2023 13: 30
                -7
                Quote: Doccor18
                Yes, they directly sponsored the NSDAP and made Hitler Reich Chancellor

                No one still knows who actually sponsored the NSDAP. But not the sharks of capitalism you listed, who feared the Nazis no less than the communists. You should read at least a little on this topic - it was even in Soviet propaganda brochures... wink
                1. Doccor18
                  Doccor18 15 September 2023 16: 55
                  +4
                  Quote: Luminman
                  No one still knows who actually sponsored the NSDAP.

                  Well, yes, there are so many potential customers there... Maybe seasoned financiers of Uganda or industrial kings of Ecuador...
                  What is there to know? Those who benefited sponsored it. And who benefited from the world war and huge military orders, who made fabulous profits from this? Nothing comes to mind other than overseas and local financial and industrial groups...

                  Quote: Luminman
                  Would you read

                  And to you, about Mandel and Gesner, about Wasserman and Privin...
                  1. Luminman
                    Luminman 15 September 2023 18: 08
                    -7
                    Quote: Doccor18
                    And who benefited from the world war and huge military orders, who made fabulous profits from this?

                    I don't know where you get yours from "knowledge", but you simply need to read about the economy of Nazi Germany. At least at the high school level...
      2. FIR FIR
        FIR FIR 15 September 2023 11: 43
        +7
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        Strong power, maybe under the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, Napoleon, Hitler and the dictatorship of the proletariat Lenin, Stalin ..

        Only bourgeois “ideal” dictators have always led their countries and people to the scaffold.
        And Lenin and Stalin tore the country out of post-feudal obscurantism, made the state one of the most powerful on the planet and instilled in the people a sense of faith in a great future.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 15 September 2023 10: 52
      +9
      What we are missing now, unfortunately!
    3. your1970
      your1970 15 September 2023 13: 22
      -12
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      people have a colossal demand for strong power. And the country also wants a tough and patriotic leader. Not a babble in words, and red-line in deeds. And so he would hit the table in the Kremlin with his fist, and in Washington they would already have a fight. And with a 100% guarantee

      Only people don’t understand that any strong government begins not with shooting ministers/people’s commissars, but with simple of people....
      Banal Covid showed that micro-tightening cause hysteria among the people - I’m afraid to even imagine what would happen if now VO readers were given orders for Komsomol construction in dugouts in the Far East. And try not to go...
      A strong government always limits its population, and Washington is the tenth thing...
      They wanted to hit the Sukhaya River and they did - despite the presence of Stalin.
      And yet, as shown PRACTICE executions during Stalin's time WHY for example, they did not reduce in any way the defect rate (97%!!!!) of armor-piercing 45mm shells (several million shells down the drain)..
      Or the percentage of armor defects in 1945 at least a little bit. Otherwise, 52% of the defects look completely obscene - the sheet is normal, the sheet is defective. And as recent examinations have shown, there was an article on VO - from defects also they made tanks...
  12. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 15 September 2023 08: 14
    +13
    Russia will not be “bourgeois”.
    What is she like now? Society of justice, truth, conscience? smile
  13. Alex66
    Alex66 15 September 2023 08: 20
    +14
    Stalin lived his life for the people, and Yeltsin, and after him Putin, live to increase the capital of the rich; even in the conditions of hostilities, the rich continue to enrich themselves by sucking resources from the economy. “Today, 22 Russian oligarchs are doing well by leaps and bounds: since January 2023, their total wealth has grown by $32 billion,”
  14. Dean
    Dean 15 September 2023 08: 46
    +15
    We can talk a lot about what Stalin did. The people remember and honor him according to his deeds. But this is what the modern government is doing. All this is reminiscent of a family of alcoholics who inherited an apartment and in order to live they steal from it everything they can by selling and drinking. Because they can’t and don’t want anything else. Our master first gave everything away and allowed everything to fall apart. The development of the Country's GDP has reached such a level that it has become dependent on Iran, China, India and some lousy North Korea. He pompously puffed out his cheeks, fattening on the authority of the USSR. They at least somehow considered him and feared him out of inertia. Remember how everyone shuddered when the Strange Operation began. But after he began to draw red lines and retreat from them further and further, each time expressing another concern, they began to pay less and less attention to him. Now we have retreated to the last line that has not yet been drawn - the possibility of using nuclear weapons. But the West has already become confident that the modern Russian leadership does not have the confidence to apply it. Those. with his actions and indecision, P brought the country to the abyss.
  15. Yaroslavl
    Yaroslavl 15 September 2023 08: 53
    +6
    Bravo to Samsonov for the article! I’ll start with the slogan: Long live the Father of Nations, the Great Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin! But I will emphasize what was said above... the current government, apart from speculation on the name of Stalin, when it is profitable for them, has nothing in common, literally at all... Would he really have arranged such a thing, what is happening now... he would not have allowed himself to be tricked into chaff, because he worked and did not bask in luxury, interrupted by flattery and false reports about how good and simple everything is everywhere...
  16. Raccoon Raccoon
    Raccoon Raccoon 15 September 2023 09: 04
    -4
    I have to see I.V. The attitude towards Stalin is twofold. On the one hand, one of the greatest statesmen and political figures of the last century. On the other hand, my ancestors were forcibly deported from the Volga region to Kazakhstan as soon as the Great Patriotic War began. Just because they were Volga Germans. This is such a collision.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 15 September 2023 10: 23
      +6
      Just because they were Volga Germans.
      Hitlerite agitators were identified among Soviet Germans. So it was simply dangerous to take risks.
      1. your1970
        your1970 15 September 2023 13: 26
        -3
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Just because they were Volga Germans.
        Hitlerite agitators were identified among Soviet Germans. So it was simply dangerous to take risks.

        This is bike for the population - in fact, they did it for preventive purposes since there were really a lot of them in the Volga region. The USA also singled out its Japanese...
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 15 September 2023 10: 26
      +8
      About deportation. During World War II, the Americans forced all the Japanese who lived in the United States into concentration camps.
      This is such a collision.
  17. nikolaevskiy78
    nikolaevskiy78 15 September 2023 09: 14
    +2
    I will express an obviously unpopular opinion, but I suggest not immediately throwing wet rags.
    We need to draw a line under the description of Russian history. The only real chance is to start the countdown again. This means that for some time we must completely stop reflecting on historical periods and characters. This whole dispute between “bourgeois” and “anti-bourgeois”, “tsar-bourgeois” against “communists”, Marxists against liberals does not lead to anything positive except the seething of substances in our heads.
    This reflection must be put aside and we must say to ourselves - from this line we will build a new society, a new state. Without bringing in the names of the leaders of the past, the ideologies of the past. Here is a blank slate, we write from a blank slate what we want, where we want.
    Russian reflection is both a blessing, but also a weapon, with which we constantly hurt ourselves and thereby open the way to other people's meanings. When you don’t know what you want, you always choose someone else’s.
    1. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 15 September 2023 10: 06
      +5
      from this line we will build a new society, a new state
      So this line was drawn on June 12, 1991, and in 34 years a new society was built? No. Are we bringing in the names of the past? Stolypin, we are attracting other figures from the Republic of Ingushetia... We want to be like the Republic of Ingushetia, as Peskov said, we want... We are taking advantage of the successes of the USSR so far, we are taking advantage
      1. nikolaevskiy78
        nikolaevskiy78 15 September 2023 10: 15
        +6
        Do you believe that someone drew the line?
        Here is the “monarchist-autocrat” E. Kholmogorov wrote in his TG.

        “And everything is like this with them. The land of the Don Army, granted to the Cossacks by the Empress in 1786, it turns out, disappeared somewhere later. Dzhugashvili appeared out of nowhere and founded a world that was in chaos before him. This, of course, should be noted in the presence of the governor to the dances of those same Cossacks. It is about this mishmash that I will, among other things, write in a new column. Don’t switch."

        Those. Kholmogorov focuses on the fact that “the Mother Empress granted land to the Cossacks.” The fact that the very fact that the land on which these people themselves lived and settled it themselves and in general everything around was the property of “mother” does not bother him. So what the hell can we talk about if half of our TV and media are liberals, the other half talk about mothers and fathers, so much so that sometimes the screens become wet with oil. No, this is not a trait.
    2. Doccor18
      Doccor18 15 September 2023 11: 23
      +2
      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      from this line we will build a new society, a new state

      Is it being built? If you think about it, sometimes it’s scary what might happen in the end...
      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      Here is a blank slate, let’s write from a blank slate

      The problem is that it is not clean.

      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      what we want, where we want.

      And the main problem is that we want - we know, but those on whom everything depends more and more every year want the diametrically opposite. And this is without any “reflections” and stories from the past...
      1. nikolaevskiy78
        nikolaevskiy78 15 September 2023 11: 26
        +3
        Sooner or later this will have to be done, otherwise our fate is not so enviable. It is clear that no one will do this in the current system, and in principle.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 15 September 2023 12: 01
          +3
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          Sooner or later this will have to be done

          Of course, but again it won’t work “from scratch” and “without reflection,” because we are products of the past, and no matter how hard we try to look into the future, everything that was completely impossible to discard and erase.
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          It is clear that no one will do this in the current system, and in principle.

          Hah, of course, they are digging a hole for themselves, it makes sense to change something. But the deeper they dig, the higher the chance of the earth mass collapsing...
      2. your1970
        your1970 15 September 2023 13: 40
        -6
        Quote: Doccor18
        And the main problem is that we want - we know

        So that there would be socialism and at the same time a store as it is now, things as it is now, services as it is now, rights as it is now.
        And this physically impossible - the USSR tried, but it failed.
        And this is scary - that there will be torture, but in a couple of years the people will say, “So what? What’s the joy? The fact that the minister was impaled - so it doesn’t make us feel warm or cold. We don’t want to wait for a bright future for the likes of our grandchildren - give it now!!"
        And this will be the end of Russia...
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 15 September 2023 17: 18
          +6
          Quote: your1970
          store as it is now

          And what does this give to a pensioner and a student?
          Quote: your1970
          things are as they are now

          And everyone can buy everything in these stores...
          Quote: your1970
          services as now,

          What services? Cosmetology and massage or what? Tutor or notary?
          Quote: your1970
          right as it is now.

          And the truth is that they are now overwhelmed. There are so many of them that you don’t even have time to use them...
          Quote: your1970
          that there will be torture

          What kind of torture will it be?
          Quote: your1970
          that the minister was impaled - so it doesn’t make us warm or cold

          Is it true? Others will look at their post differently, assess their capabilities and desires...
          Quote: your1970
          this will be the end

          This is how pragmatic guys have been scaring (for their own benefit) illiterate and gullible crowds for many millennia...
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  18. Boris55
    Boris55 15 September 2023 09: 26
    -14
    All power to the Soviets!

    Quote: A. Samsonov
    The Russian Federation does not have an image of the future, its own concept (plan) of life.

    Russia has an image of the future. It is set out in the books of KOB (Concept Public Safety). Materials on which can be easily found on the internet.

    Quote: A. Samsonov
    The people see in the past a different image of the future - a society of knowledge, service and creation.

    "People are never satisfied with the present and, having experience with little hope for the future, adorn the irreversible past with all the colors of their imagination". A.S. Pushkin

    Quote: A. Samsonov
    The image of the future Russian world must be based on codes that are basic for the people - justice-truth, ethics of conscience

    Putin constantly talks about the World he is building. You just need to have the desire to hear it.

    As an example of one of his speeches:

    "... Changing milestones is a painful process, but natural and inevitable. The future world order is being formed before our eyes. And in this world order we must listen to everyone, take into account every point of view, every people, society, culture, every system of worldviews , ideas and religious ideas, without imposing a single truth on anyone, and only on this basis, understanding their responsibility for the fate - the fate of peoples, the planet, to build a symphony of human civilization ...

    ... all countries must be assured of sovereign development, and the choice of any country must be respected. This is also important, even in relation to the financial system. It must be independent, depoliticized, and, of course, it must be based on the financial systems of the world's leading countries.

    And if this is created, and this is not an easy process, very complicated, but it is possible, then international institutions will also work more efficiently - they need to either be reformed or created anew - to help those countries that need this support.

    And above all, on the basis of this new financial system, it will be necessary to ensure the transfer of education and technology transfer.

    If we sum it all up, collect it as a palette of opportunities necessary for implementation, then the economic model itself, and the financial system, it will meet the interests of the majority, and not just the interests of this “golden billion”, which we talked about ...

    ...We need to find a balance of interests. This cannot be done in conditions of hegemony or an attempt to maintain the hegemony of one country or group of countries in relation to the rest of mankind. These hegemons will have to reckon with these legitimate demands of the vast majority of participants in international communication - and not in words, but in deeds ...

    ... How to ensure that the relationship was stable? It is necessary to achieve this balance, it is necessary to act within the framework of those norms that we call the norms of international law, it is necessary to coordinate and adhere to them, including in the financial sphere to create independent systems of international settlements, which I spoke about ... "

    Full text of the transcript: http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/69695

    This fully applies to our country, our domestic policy. Whether you accept such a future or not is a debatable question, but we have an image of the future!
    1. nikolaevskiy78
      nikolaevskiy78 15 September 2023 09: 31
      -6
      Boris, with all due respect. KOB is a crude project that was born in the bowels of the KGB to counteract quantitative methods in the analysis of cognitive processes. In the West, this has grown into a separate scientific direction; we also made an attempt to find an antidote. But while in the West dozens of institutions have been doing this since the 60s, ours have only had a few years. Then the USSR disappeared.
      The crudeness of the COB concepts is felt almost immediately. This does not mean that the topic was poorly addressed - not enough, and there was also no digital base for it. You can build something new on this foundation only by refilling it. Then we must take into account that this direction was opposed to globalism a la the “Club of Rome”, and it itself was almost swept away in the West by a new concept. The fact that we in Russia cling to this is our phantoms.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 15 September 2023 09: 47
        -8
        COB is not skrepli. Dead water is already history.
        The last thing published that is relevant at the moment is a three-volume book: “War, State, Bolshevism”, as well as “State Symbols and State Sovereignty” (these books are available on Ozone). hi

        ps
        KOB is not opposed to "clubs", but to the Biblical concept.
        1. nikolaevskiy78
          nikolaevskiy78 15 September 2023 10: 00
          0
          This is what the original project degenerated into later. And this made the COB unworkable and inapplicable in practice.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 15 September 2023 10: 41
            -5
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            this made the BER unworkable and unusable in practice.

            The President approved the Concept of Public Security in the Russian Federation.

            November 20 2013 years
            13:20

            I. General Provisions

            1. This Concept represents a system of views on ensuring public safety as part of the national security of the Russian Federation.

            2. This Concept defines the main sources of threats to public safety in the Russian Federation (hereinafter also referred to as public safety), the goals, objectives, principles and main directions of activity of authorized state bodies, as well as local government bodies, other bodies and organizations involved in ensuring public security on the basis of the legislation of the Russian Federation (hereinafter referred to as the public security forces). Conceptual approaches to ensuring public safety have been developed in accordance with the provisions of the National Security Strategy of the Russian Federation until 2020 and the Concept of long-term socio-economic development of the Russian Federation for the period until 2020....."

            Full text of the document: http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/news/19653

            ps
            I should have started my posts with this...
            10 years have passed. You can already analyze whether it is working or not.

            pps
            Each person who has become acquainted with new information takes from it what seems important to him (the Bible is one, religions are darkness).
            1. nikolaevskiy78
              nikolaevskiy78 15 September 2023 11: 06
              0
              And what does this document say about such a concept as “Global Predictor”? wink
              Don't you think that these are still different concepts?
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 15 September 2023 11: 35
                -7
                Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                Don't you think that these are still different concepts?

                Read the pps post above.
                Putin is very familiar with KOB and the names are the same for a reason.



                The COB passed parliamentary hearings and was recommended for distribution. Duma Bulletin No. 1 (1995)
                http://www.kpe.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=912

                ps
                Putin himself is a global corrector, shaping a new World.
                In our century, it is not customary to write in one’s Decrees: “We, Putin I...”
                1. nikolaevskiy78
                  nikolaevskiy78 15 September 2023 11: 56
                  +1
                  Anything can be discussed. We had Glazyev and Illarionov and even Yumashev as advisers. Everyone has discussed something at some point. And Dugin and Shchedrovitsky, and Surkov with his “sovereign democracy”.
                  The concept adopted in 2013 provides for “measures to prevent corruption and criminalization of public relations.” Dead and living waters, as well as predictors and correctors have nothing to do with this.
                  However, if GDP is the “great corrector of the world,” as you write, then any water is powerless. Forgive me.
                  Parliamentary hearings take place on a variety of issues and traditionally mean nothing. You simply don’t see the entire Duma agenda, but if you did, you’d be surprised.
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                  2. Mishka78
                    Mishka78 15 September 2023 13: 54
                    +2
                    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                    here any water is powerless

                    Exactly. Namesake, this (possibly once good) initiative has degenerated into a sect.
                    Boris Leontyevich is an apologist for this. And the apostles were all sorts of Efimovs and other Pyakins.
                    Trying to convince them is more expensive, so just spit saliva and leave Boris alone with his cockroaches.
                    1. nikolaevskiy78
                      nikolaevskiy78 15 September 2023 14: 01
                      +2
                      Yeah, cockroaches are really plump winked
  19. Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar 15 September 2023 10: 33
    +14
    Your article “Red Emperor” gives a comprehensive answer to the question posed.
    In troubled times, a leader is needed, and I.V. Stalin stood at the head of the state precisely at such a time. “J.V. Stalin inherited a completely ruined, murdered country. Destroyed and bloodless by the First World War and the Civil War, foreign intervention. Virtually no industry, no gold reserves, no technology and no future. Mass unemployment and poverty, rampant crime. The dominance of the bureaucracy, the fusion of the local party apparatus with the Nepmen. It seemed that a deindustrialized, poorly armed Russia was doomed to become a raw materials appendage of the more developed West.
    JV Stalin managed to do the impossible. He cleared the party ranks of petty-bourgeois elements, not only kept the country on the brink of disaster, but also threw it into a breakthrough, into the future.”
    Natural resources were not used to enrich individuals, and money was not invested in Western banks, but went to the development of the state.
    Under the blockade, in just 10 years of industrialization, he created new advanced industries, ensured food security, created the Soviet system of universal free education, healthcare, brought the state to the forefront, which became possible with financial independence, state planning, and the priority of the real sector of the economy. , the main indicator of its effectiveness was not profit, but a reduction in production costs. This contributed to maximum efficiency at the lowest cost, expense and time. It made it possible to reduce prices, massively build housing, roads, new factories, improve education, healthcare, and social and cultural services.
    “Under the leadership of Stalin, the peoples of the USSR built a great independent power and defeated internal and external enemies. Therefore, for all the freedom-loving peoples of the world, the example of the USSR and the CPSU, led by Stalin, has historical as well as practical significance.” Mao Zedong
    1. Des
      Des 15 September 2023 19: 38
      0
      Thank you.
      Although the text of my comment is short, it fully reflects my state of mind.
  20. Dzerzhinsky
    Dzerzhinsky 15 September 2023 10: 37
    0
    Stalin built a “gopota and fools” and forced them to work hard, study and work! And the results were the envy of everyone!
  21. BAI
    BAI 15 September 2023 11: 49
    +5


    Why is the image of Stalin popular among the people?


    Because the liberal democrats did everything to confirm the ancient Indian wisdom (Mahabharatra or Bhadovat Gita, I don’t remember): “Democracy is the power of thieves and robbers who plunder the property of the state.”
  22. Fat
    Fat 15 September 2023 13: 54
    +3
    The people respect Stalin only because he managed to reverse the process of disintegration of the Russian state. Stalin managed in the shortest possible time to gather into a single organism, working for the prosperity of the state, the administrative apparatus and ordinary citizens protected by this state, create working social elevators and protect the state from parasites. organs. He promised to give results in a month - give it! Otherwise, the place in the “sharag” is prepared for the chatterbox-dreamer, or even tougher.
  23. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 15 September 2023 15: 24
    0
    The Russian Federation does not have an image of the future, its own concept (plan) of life.
    Of course this image exists! It’s just such that its speakers are still embarrassed to voice it in polite society. But representatives of the “small peoples of the Caucasus” are happy to organize enchanting holidays, where they don’t have to be shy...
  24. dump22
    dump22 15 September 2023 16: 11
    +8
    We don’t expect anything good from the future, that’s why we dream of a “golden age” from the past.
    Why is the myth of the “just and wise king” popular?
    This comes from a feeling of complete personal powerlessness, the inability to change one’s situation on one’s own.

    A sad diagnosis.
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  26. Mustached Kok
    Mustached Kok 16 September 2023 00: 42
    +1
    I don’t remember who the author of the quote is, but the quote itself incredibly accurately describes the situation (despite the fact that its author seems to be a liberal, but at the same time simply recognizes the actual attitude of citizens)
    “Stalin is popular not because they love him, but because they don’t like what is happening around him now!
    And looking at the snickering and robbed faces of officials and millionaires who have lost complete conscience in relation to ordinary people, the people themselves think: “You don’t have Stalin!”
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  28. Timofey Charuta
    Timofey Charuta 16 September 2023 10: 44
    +2
    Quote from Samsonov: “Yes, there were repressions, but who came under the purges – the fifth column, the Basmachi, Bandera, Baltic Nazis, Trotskyists, thieves, saboteurs.”
    All modern complaints against Stalin now essentially come down to this point, mass repressions with their distributions by region (the number of “enemies of the people”, as it turned out, was planned in advance) ...

    The explanations for this are very different; there is still no consensus. Question Why? - they answer this, who knows what...
    A popular version among journalists (I read and heard it myself) is that Stalin shot all the old Bolsheviks... who saw and knew Lenin (?). Others claim that Koba controlled all his political competitors who in some way interfered with him. But how the repressed editor of a regional newspaper, the chairman of a collective farm, or the head of a factory workshop in the outback could prevent the “leader of the people” is a mystery wrapped in a blanket of riddle.

    Unfortunately, among those shot and sent to logging were not only “Basmachi” and “thieves”. Even at school, I was puzzled by this fact (I loved reading historical encyclopedias and reference books) - biographies of many famous Bolshevik revolutionaries, heroes of the Civil War, who became famous for their victories over the Whites, etc. and so on. - almost all ended with the fateful dates of 1937-1938. So many heroes and honored revolutionaries-convicts, incl. from school textbooks - are all enemies of the people?

    I was especially struck by the biography of the founder and head of Soviet military intelligence and counterintelligence Artuzov (many remembered him from the film “Operation Trust” (Dzhigarkhanyan). In 1937, Artuzov’s merits were finally appreciated - he was shot under Article 58-6 (“espionage "), -8 ("terror"), and -11 ("participation in a counter-revolutionary conspiratorial organization within the NKVD"). Somehow it turns out...

    How did Soviet power even survive when conspirators and spies climbed to the top of power, headed by security forces (Yezhov - a German spy) and the high military command (of the five first Soviet marshals - three were spies and conspirators who were executed)?! It seems that they are not “Basmachi” and not “Baltic Nazis”.

    I think that all these questions are eternal questions of history. Each next generation will give its own answer, and the political situation is changing...

    PS In fairness, we note that all the great revolutions of the past ended in equally great repressions, incl. and against “our own” (taking into account the realities of that time) - “the revolution devours its children...”.
    Cromwell cut many heads in England, Robespierre and his club of Jacobins with a guillotine are handsome! Of the leaders of the Great French Revolution, not a single one survived! Something needs to change at the conservatory...

    PPS What all these figures and instigators of the terror of the past have in common is that for them power is not a means (of enrichment), but a goal.

  29. steelmaker
    steelmaker 16 September 2023 12: 13
    +1
    Anecdote in the topic:
    A new teacher comes to class:
    -My name is Abram Davidovich, I am a liberal. Now everyone take turns and introduce yourself, just like I did...
    -My name is Masha, I’m a liberal..
    -My name is Styopa, I’m a liberal..
    -My name is Vovochka, I am a Stalinist!
    - Vovochka why are you a Stalinist?
    - My mother, father, friends are all Stalinists, and I am a Stalinist.
    - Vovochka, if your mom was a prostitute, your dad was a drug addict, and your friends were gay, who would you be then?
    Then I would be a liberal!
  30. your1970
    your1970 16 September 2023 18: 45
    0
    Quote: Doccor18
    pragmatic guys
  31. egorMTG
    egorMTG 16 September 2023 22: 52
    +1
    Quote from: dump22
    We don’t expect anything good from the future, that’s why we dream of a “golden age” from the past.
    Why is the myth of the “just and wise king” popular?
    This comes from a feeling of complete personal powerlessness, the inability to change one’s situation on one’s own.

    A sad diagnosis.

    - During Stalin’s time, the people did not influence the decisions made by the leadership, but they worked with enthusiasm and full dedication to build a new country (everything was obvious - grandiose construction projects, industrial development, achievements in the creation of aviation and navy). People trusted the management. And they believed in the future.

    - Nowadays, the people absolutely cannot influence where the country is going and why... Fraud in the country is taking the form of a national disaster.
    Who would have thought earlier that the great-grandsons and grandsons of the winners of fascism would cruelly and mercilessly rob their compatriots, mainly pensioners - robbing them completely, using deception and the achievements of modern technology.

    - I wonder if this exists in any other country?...
    1. dump22
      dump22 17 September 2023 20: 13
      -1
      with enthusiasm and full dedication...People trusted the management. And they believed in the future.


      I didn’t live at that time (and neither did you).
      I myself found myself at a conscious age only in the late 70s and 80s.
      Therefore, I judge from the memoirs of those who lived and documents of that era.

      And it seems to me that “not trusting management and not believing in the future” was simply dangerous,
      And people usually, for the most part (even sometimes without realizing it) instinctively do not commit dangerous acts. For example, they don’t come to the edge of the abyss.

      I myself did exactly this - I thoughtlessly believed in 1985 that the country’s leadership, of course, could see better when it announced the beginning of “perestroika.”

      The same goes for enthusiasm. I saw this enthusiasm in the 80s, ceremonial meetings, mandatory subbotniks, etc.
      I don’t think that under Stalin there was any different attitude. Also, most people “served” the obligatory ritual, and there were only 5% of sincere idealists.
  32. ivan2022
    ivan2022 17 September 2023 11: 00
    -3
    The people respect the Tsar.... And they don’t care that Stalin was Stalin only because he was the leader of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks. (by the way, it’s an elected position)...
    The people do not respect the All-Union Communist Party of Belarus at all.... This disease is the problem of the people.
  33. Ceburec59
    Ceburec59 17 September 2023 20: 45
    -1
    +++100%!................
    Everything is just like that.........
  34. acetophenone
    acetophenone 18 September 2023 12: 15
    -3
    Why do people respect Stalin?
    Not because he's so good. That's another shot...
    Because everyone else is just crap.
    1. ivan2022
      ivan2022 19 September 2023 05: 08
      -1
      Who are the others? Those 140 million?
      Then it’s clear why the main political slogan in Russia is: “And for whom else?...” There is no such slogan in any country in the world anymore....
  35. Alexander
    Alexander 18 September 2023 21: 18
    0
    Why? Because he is a LEADER!!!!!!!!!!!!
  36. Vlatko_Radovic
    Vlatko_Radovic 23 September 2023 09: 53
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    Talk about the consequences of the long-ago seizure of power in Russia by foreign armed gangs of rootless cosmopolitans, who were specially trained and armed by the USA and England. For 6 months, the militants were brought to St. Petersburg and placed on the outskirts, in empty barracks, by decision of the Provisional Government. Residents of St. Petersburg did not participate in the seizure, but simply observed the ongoing Locust invasion. Here they remembered the murderer Dzhugashvilli (in the translation with cargo, the son of a Jewish woman). Yes, they did not respect, but were afraid! A terrible fear of lawlessness reigned in the country. Executioners - rootless cosmopolitans. Now the More Important thing is that the Secret Always becomes Explicit. Look at today, after the second Locust Infestation in 100 years in the early 1990s. I recently read some interesting information. What's going on behind the scenes: https://dzen.ru/a/ZCx26jRcrB-Wjv0P?utm_referer=www.google.com What a trick! Read the article by the patriot-turncoat to the end. Shocking news from the leader of rootless cosmopolitans - he reveals “Achievements” at the Congress.