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Media: London announced the dispatch of combat aircraft to the Black Sea region to protect grain ships

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Media: London announced the dispatch of combat aircraft to the Black Sea region to protect grain ships

There was information that London announced the dispatch of combat aircraft to the Black Sea region to protect ships with grain. Now they periodically try to export it from Ukrainian ports on the Black Sea, despite Russia's withdrawal from the grain deal.


This was reported by a number of Russian resources, referring to the British government.

A day earlier, the same was said in the material of the British newspaper The Daily Telegraph. It said that the Royal Air Force is already taking part in patrolling the Black Sea to ensure the safety of grain supplies from Ukraine. The publication referred to sources working in the office of the country's Prime Minister.

In recent weeks the British aviation patrols over the Black Sea to prevent attacks on civilian ships

- the authors of the article say.

The media write that London allegedly began to show increased military activity in the Black Sea region almost immediately after Russia withdrew from the grain deal, which occurred on July 17.

It is difficult to imagine how the British Air Force intends to protect grain ships heading from Ukrainian ports if the Russians decide to impede their movement. It is unlikely that they would have dared to interfere with the Russian military by force. After all, an armed incident can provoke the most unpredictable scenarios, up to and including the outbreak of a military clash between Russia and NATO.
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  1. Si1vernn
    Si1vernn 9 September 2023 10: 50
    +4
    Grain for starving countries. Yeah. We believe.)
    1. -sa-
      -sa- 9 September 2023 11: 05
      +10
      Yeah) blocked Russian fertilizers for African agriculture will not allow you to lie about the West’s concerns about starving children and crops there))
      1. Escariot
        Escariot 9 September 2023 13: 51
        -14
        Quote: -sa-
        Yeah) blocked Russian fertilizers for African agriculture will not allow you to lie about the West’s concerns about starving children and crops there))

        There is no need to cast a shadow on the fence. No one is blocking Russian grain and fertilizers at the ports. Another thing is that the West refuses to help take it out, but Russia may well take it out itself. Or can't?
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 9 September 2023 14: 24
          +5
          Quote from Escariot
          No one is blocking Russian grain and fertilizers at the ports. Another thing is that the West refuses to help take it out

          Expand your statement please.

          - what does “no one blocks the ports” mean?
          - What does “refuse to help take him out” mean?

          Thank you Yes
          1. Escariot
            Escariot 9 September 2023 16: 32
            +1
            Quote: Repellent
            Quote from Escariot
            No one is blocking Russian grain and fertilizers at the ports. Another thing is that the West refuses to help take it out

            Expand your statement please.

            - what does “no one blocks the ports” mean?
            - What does “refuse to help take him out” mean?

            Thank you Yes


            No one is preventing Russian ships from leaving Russian ports to deliver grain to, say, Sudan. However, Western companies are prohibited from transporting grain, insuring Russian ships, servicing them, as well as participating in the transfer of money for grain or for servicing these ships.
            Please smile
            1. Egg
              Egg 9 September 2023 16: 44
              +4
              Quote from Escariot
              However, Western companies are prohibited from transporting grain, insuring Russian ships, servicing them, as well as participating in the transfer of money for grain or for servicing these ships.

              Hmmm... there is no service, you can’t buy fuel, and even if you buy it for cash, they won’t refuel the ship... you can’t buy food, but yes, sail wherever you want, with oars... we’re not blocking wassat
              When did you manage to turn your brains inside out?
              1. faridg7
                faridg7 9 September 2023 16: 50
                +8
                Add also that uninsured ships will not be allowed into the straits and canals, and insurance is only provided by English Lloyd or its subsidiaries...
              2. Escariot
                Escariot 9 September 2023 18: 27
                -11
                Quote: Telur
                Quote from Escariot
                However, Western companies are prohibited from transporting grain, insuring Russian ships, servicing them, as well as participating in the transfer of money for grain or for servicing these ships.

                Hmmm... there is no service, you can’t buy fuel, and even if you buy it for cash, they won’t refuel the ship... you can’t buy food, but yes, sail wherever you want, with oars... we’re not blocking wassat
                When did you manage to turn your brains inside out?

                What, Russia doesn’t have its own fuel? Or is Russia itself unable to service its ships and supply them with food? Or is Russia not advocating the transition to a national currency in settlements with other countries? It seems to me or are you defaming our country?
                1. faridg7
                  faridg7 10 September 2023 04: 07
                  +2
                  Apparently you have no problems with logic, geography and logistics (if there are none, then what problems could there be with them?) According to your logic, driving ships with grain from Russia to Sudan in the conditions that are currently provided for is a whole expedition. It is necessary to transport grain from the southern regions to the Baltic or to the Barents Sea, from there a caravan of dry cargo ships, tankers and supply ships, as well as military ships should depart (along the way, NATO pirates will definitely try to seize these ships). And this caravan will have to go around Europe and Africa for a long time. Russia is certainly capable of organizing such an expedition, but its feasibility is questionable. Of course, we feel sorry for the Africans, but not so much as to try to tear ourselves apart over them, especially since in this situation the grain will be slightly comparable in price to gold.
            2. Repellent
              Repellent 9 September 2023 19: 22
              +4
              Quote from Escariot
              Nobody is preventing Russian ships from leaving Russian ports to deliver grain to, say, Sudan. However, Western companies are prohibited from transporting grain, insuring Russian ships, servicing them, as well as participating in the transfer of money for grain or for servicing these ships.

              Translated into Russian, this is exactly what is called blocking trade and logistics operations.

              I repeat - stop your... um, national things. It won’t work, there are no suckers here - they were taken out of here in the last five-year plan request laughing

              PS:

              Quote from Escariot
              What, Russia doesn’t have its own fuel? Or is Russia itself unable to service its ships and supply them with food? Or is Russia not advocating the transition to a national currency in settlements with other countries? It seems to me or are you defaming our country?

              Yes, these are exactly the things I was talking about. Stop it, stop it. And, yes - your country is not our country. See above about suckers Yes
              1. Escariot
                Escariot 9 September 2023 22: 34
                -7
                Quote: Repellent
                Quote from Escariot
                Nobody is preventing Russian ships from leaving Russian ports to deliver grain to, say, Sudan. However, Western companies are prohibited from transporting grain, insuring Russian ships, servicing them, as well as participating in the transfer of money for grain or for servicing these ships.

                Translated into Russian, this is exactly what is called blocking trade and logistics operations.

                I repeat - stop your... um, national things. It won’t work, there are no suckers here - they were taken out of here in the last five-year plan request laughing

                PS:

                Quote from Escariot
                What, Russia doesn’t have its own fuel? Or is Russia itself unable to service its ships and supply them with food? Or is Russia not advocating the transition to a national currency in settlements with other countries? It seems to me or are you defaming our country?

                Yes, these are exactly the things I was talking about. Stop it, stop it. And, yes - your country is not our country. See above about suckers Yes

                Nobody blocks trading operations. They just don't help. Or do you need Great Britain to bring Russian grain to Sudan, and bring money in the opposite direction? Is that how you see it? But no, now we have our own ships, our own tankers, our own banks, our own insurers, etc., well, if of course they can be found
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                    1. Repellent
                      Repellent 9 September 2023 23: 36
                      +1
                      Quote from Escariot
                      Your analogy doesn't fit at all.

                      I like this request laughing

                      Quote from Escariot
                      Trade, transport, transfer money, insure ships, no one will say a word, but everything is now on your own

                      I repeat - this is called blocking trade and logistics operations.

                      Well, let's have a couple more visits... I'm patient feel
                      1. Escariot
                        Escariot 10 September 2023 05: 52
                        -4
                        Quote: Repellent
                        Quote from Escariot
                        Your analogy doesn't fit at all.

                        I like this request laughing

                        Quote from Escariot
                        Trade, transport, transfer money, insure ships, no one will say a word, but everything is now on your own

                        I repeat - this is called blocking trade and logistics operations.

                        Well, let's have a couple more visits... I'm patient feel

                        No one is blocking trade and logistics operations between Russia and Sudan. The UK just isn't helping them. Now we're all on our own
                      2. nik-mazur
                        nik-mazur 10 September 2023 12: 12
                        +5
                        Quote from Escariot
                        No one is blocking trade and logistics operations between Russia and Sudan. The UK just isn't helping them.

                        Çotarju. It turns out that the Western almost monopoly on ship insurance or money transfers is not a way of control and making huge profits, but selfless help.
                      3. Volunteer Marek
                        Volunteer Marek 10 September 2023 15: 46
                        0
                        Does he help or does he do his own business? Is it really free of charge, that is, for nothing?
            3. Sergei N 58912062
              Sergei N 58912062 9 September 2023 22: 06
              +3
              Quote from Escariot

              No one is preventing Russian ships from leaving Russian ports to deliver grain to, say, Sudan. However, Western companies are prohibited from transporting grain, insuring Russian ships, servicing them, as well as participating in the transfer of money for grain or for servicing these ships.
              Please smile

              Escariot, don’t you think this is blocking?! And in my opinion this is blocking! Because blocking the export of grain is not only physically preventing ships from leaving ports. As we can see, blocking can be done in different ways.
              1. Escariot
                Escariot 9 September 2023 22: 40
                -4
                Quote: Sergei N 58912062
                Quote from Escariot

                No one is preventing Russian ships from leaving Russian ports to deliver grain to, say, Sudan. However, Western companies are prohibited from transporting grain, insuring Russian ships, servicing them, as well as participating in the transfer of money for grain or for servicing these ships.
                Please smile

                Escariot, don’t you think this is blocking?! And in my opinion this is blocking! Because blocking the export of grain is not only physically preventing ships from leaving ports. As we can see, blocking can be done in different ways.

                No way. It is not the West that is blocking grain supplies, it is Russia that does not have the required number of transports, supply ships, insurance companies and an international money transfer system. And there is no need to shift these problems from a sore head to a healthy one.
                1. Repellent
                  Repellent 9 September 2023 22: 51
                  +3
                  Quote from Escariot
                  It is not the West that is blocking grain supplies, it is Russia that does not have the required number of transports, supply ships, insurance companies and an international money transfer system

                  My friend, some good advice for you: linden should be linden, not oak.
                  1. Escariot
                    Escariot 9 September 2023 23: 17
                    -6
                    Quote: Repellent
                    Quote from Escariot
                    It is not the West that is blocking grain supplies, it is Russia that does not have the required number of transports, supply ships, insurance companies and an international money transfer system

                    My friend, some good advice for you: linden should be linden, not oak.

                    There is nothing to answer - are you switching to demagoguery?
                    1. Repellent
                      Repellent 9 September 2023 23: 27
                      +3
                      Quote from Escariot
                      There is nothing to answer - are you switching to demagoguery?

                      No. I told you already - stupidity, repeated many times, only increases in size.

                      Yes, and this... you will poke... well, wherever is more convenient for you Yes laughing
                  2. Beck69
                    Beck69 15 September 2023 09: 41
                    0
                    I suspect that your opponent knows for sure that Sovcomflot is just another arcade game on 4 curling irons (my grandchildren put it that way)
                2. Arkadich
                  Arkadich 10 September 2023 17: 26
                  +2
                  It's not the West that is blocking grain supplies

                  Then explain the restrictions contained in the fifth package of sanctions, which close European ports for ships flying the Russian flag.
  2. Or me
    Or me 9 September 2023 10: 52
    +3
    It is difficult to imagine how the British Air Force intends to protect grain ships heading from Ukrainian ports if the Russians decide to impede their movement.
    Indeed, how impudent they imagine it! request
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 9 September 2023 11: 05
      0
      Quote: Elijah
      Indeed, how impudent they imagine it!

      They realized that the "red lines" are purely a virtual trick of the Kremlin.
      1. nik-mazur
        nik-mazur 10 September 2023 12: 16
        +3
        Quote: Rumata
        "red lines" are a purely virtual joke of the Kremlin

        You acted as if for others these “red lines” are not virtual jokes, but actually work. If anything, then we didn’t even come up with it, but simply took advantage of Obama’s experience, with his “red lines” regarding Assad.
        By the way, where is Obama now and where is Assad?
  3. Sergey39
    Sergey39 9 September 2023 10: 54
    +10
    You can send as many planes as you like, but English insurance companies refuse to insure ships that they plan to send along the new corridor. It is important for us that ships traveling to the “territory of Ukraine” do not carry weapons and ammunition.
    It’s not in vain that ours have been striking the Danube ports for several days in a row.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 9 September 2023 10: 56
    0
    A lively goat may not have horns, but it has plenty of everything else...
  5. Pavel_Sveshnikov
    Pavel_Sveshnikov 9 September 2023 10: 59
    +7
    Well, the Britons also de facto entered the war. The spiral of conflict is unwinding. Now the main thing is that our people do not retreat from the declared blockade of Ukraine and do not allow transport with weapons to pass through.
    1. Escariot
      Escariot 9 September 2023 16: 35
      -3
      Quote: Pavel_Sveshnikov
      Well, the Britons also de facto entered the war. The spiral of conflict is unwinding. Now the main thing is that our people do not retreat from the declared blockade of Ukraine and do not allow transport with weapons to pass through.

      So transports with weapons were not allowed as part of the "grain deal". All ships going for grain were inspected in Turkey, including by Russian inspectors, and I personally have not heard of a single case of weapons being found there.
      1. faridg7
        faridg7 9 September 2023 17: 06
        +1
        Quote from Escariot
        and personally I have not heard of a single case of weapons being found there.

        if you look for mentions in the Western press, you won’t find it, they won’t be forgiven for this, but we wrote and showed it. Vessels leaving Ukraine were inspected and traces of explosives were found in the holds and equipped caches
        1. Escariot
          Escariot 9 September 2023 18: 31
          +1
          Quote: faridg7
          Quote from Escariot
          and personally I have not heard of a single case of weapons being found there.

          if you look for mentions in the Western press, you won’t find it, they won’t be forgiven for this, but we wrote and showed it. Vessels leaving Ukraine were inspected and traces of explosives were found in the holds and equipped caches

          And I did not look in the press at all. Neither ours nor the foreign ones. In Turkey, a commission of representatives of the UN, the Russian Federation, Turkey and Ukraine worked to inspect ships heading to the ports of Ukraine. So I have not seen any of their reports that weapons were found on the ships. Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs would hardly have begun to hide such a fact and trumpeted it to the whole world. Do you have similar inspector reports? And if not, then what are we talking about?
          1. faridg7
            faridg7 10 September 2023 03: 42
            +3
            Quote from Escariot
            Quote: faridg7
            Quote from Escariot
            and personally I have not heard of a single case of weapons being found there.

            if you look for mentions in the Western press, you won’t find it, they won’t be forgiven for this, but we wrote and showed it. Vessels leaving Ukraine were inspected and traces of explosives were found in the holds and equipped caches

            And I did not look in the press at all. Neither ours nor the foreign ones. In Turkey, a commission of representatives of the UN, the Russian Federation, Turkey and Ukraine worked to inspect ships heading to the ports of Ukraine. So I have not seen any of their reports that weapons were found on the ships. Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs would hardly have begun to hide such a fact and trumpeted it to the whole world. Do you have similar inspector reports? And if not, then what are we talking about?

            The ships were inspected at the entrance to the Russian Sea in Turkey, if your geography is normal, answer me, how many stinking NATO countries have access to it besides the Turks, did this commission of yours have the opportunity to accompany the ships on the route? Who prevented the kaklam and insolent people from reloading, for example, weapons from Romanian scows directly into the sea? Now, if the commission inspected ships at the entrance to Ukrainian ports, there would be no questions.
            By the way, on the topic of the article, well, I can say with confidence that our fighter pilots have enough knowledge, experience and determination so that NATO planes cannot interfere with the sailors working there, and two of them, for sure, sleep and see how they will paint silhouettes of NATO troops on their sides
            1. Escariot
              Escariot 10 September 2023 05: 57
              -1
              Quote: faridg7
              Quote from Escariot
              Quote: faridg7
              Quote from Escariot
              and personally I have not heard of a single case of weapons being found there.

              if you look for mentions in the Western press, you won’t find it, they won’t be forgiven for this, but we wrote and showed it. Vessels leaving Ukraine were inspected and traces of explosives were found in the holds and equipped caches

              And I did not look in the press at all. Neither ours nor the foreign ones. In Turkey, a commission of representatives of the UN, the Russian Federation, Turkey and Ukraine worked to inspect ships heading to the ports of Ukraine. So I have not seen any of their reports that weapons were found on the ships. Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs would hardly have begun to hide such a fact and trumpeted it to the whole world. Do you have similar inspector reports? And if not, then what are we talking about?

              The ships were inspected at the entrance to the Russian Sea in Turkey, if your geography is normal, answer me, how many stinking NATO countries have access to it besides the Turks, did this commission of yours have the opportunity to accompany the ships on the route? Who prevented the kaklam and insolent people from reloading, for example, weapons from Romanian scows directly into the sea? Now, if the commission inspected ships at the entrance to Ukrainian ports, there would be no questions.
              By the way, on the topic of the article, well, I can say with confidence that our fighter pilots have enough knowledge, experience and determination so that NATO planes cannot interfere with the sailors working there, and two of them, for sure, sleep and see how they will paint silhouettes of NATO troops on their sides

              Naturally, no one interfered with the reloading of the gun onto ships in Romania, BUT (!), according to the contract, the inspector (including from the Russian Federation) had the right to turn the ship halfway back to the port of Turkey and inspect it again. And I haven’t heard of a single fact that ship captains have refused re-inspection, have you? Well, if there were no such facts, then why are we discussing here?
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 10 September 2023 21: 42
                +2
                Quote from Escariot
                in law was to turn the ship around on the halfway

                I repeat once again, baby: Russian is not your native. Where are you broadcasting from, miracle? wink laughing

                Quote from Escariot
                then what are we discussing here?

                Nothing Why". Edit the manual... while I'm kind Yes
      2. Sergei N 58912062
        Sergei N 58912062 9 September 2023 22: 13
        0
        Quote from Escariot
        Quote: Pavel_Sveshnikov
        Well, the Britons also de facto entered the war. The spiral of conflict is unwinding. Now the main thing is that our people do not retreat from the declared blockade of Ukraine and do not allow transport with weapons to pass through.

        So transports with weapons were not allowed as part of the "grain deal". All ships going for grain were inspected in Turkey, including by Russian inspectors, and I personally have not heard of a single case of weapons being found there.

        Why weren’t you informed whether weapons were found on ships going for grain or not? How so? Disorder! You should have been notified, even if no weapons were found on these ships.
        1. Escariot
          Escariot 10 September 2023 05: 58
          -1
          Quote: Sergei N 58912062
          Quote from Escariot
          Quote: Pavel_Sveshnikov
          Well, the Britons also de facto entered the war. The spiral of conflict is unwinding. Now the main thing is that our people do not retreat from the declared blockade of Ukraine and do not allow transport with weapons to pass through.

          So transports with weapons were not allowed as part of the "grain deal". All ships going for grain were inspected in Turkey, including by Russian inspectors, and I personally have not heard of a single case of weapons being found there.

          Why weren’t you informed whether weapons were found on ships going for grain or not? How so? Disorder! You should have been notified, even if no weapons were found on these ships.

          I don’t think that the Russian Foreign Ministry would hide the fact that weapons were found on grain deal vessels. Rather, on the contrary, he would have trumpeted to the whole world that he had found contraband.
  6. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 9 September 2023 11: 00
    +2
    In principle, it would be nice to check the British if their pilots have a thin gut. Of course, there won’t be a world war, but it’s worth checking whether the planes are of the same quality as the Challenger. soldier
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 9 September 2023 11: 26
      +4
      Quote: V.
      In principle, it would be nice to check the British if their pilots have a thin gut. Of course there won't be a world war

      This is how the world war will begin, one checked, the other answered and off we go.....
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 9 September 2023 11: 47
        0
        It is unlikely that the Americans will immediately stand up for the impudence. They will close their eyes and look for the plane that has “missed” from the radar. Or they’ll blame it on the Romanians
        1. VladMirU
          VladMirU 9 September 2023 15: 39
          -1
          +++++, and I bet that it will be so.
      2. Sergei N 58912062
        Sergei N 58912062 9 September 2023 22: 15
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: V.
        In principle, it would be nice to check the British if their pilots have a thin gut. Of course there won't be a world war

        This is how the world war will begin, one checked, the other answered and off we go.....

        And so that some people don’t go where they shouldn’t!
  7. AndreyKam_Z
    AndreyKam_Z 9 September 2023 11: 04
    +3
    Information has emerged that London has announced the dispatch of combat aircraft to the Black Sea region to protect grain ships. This was reported by a number of Russian resources, referring to the British government.

    What does information mean? Is there any official statement?
    1. A2AD
      A2AD 9 September 2023 11: 49
      +2
      What does information mean? Is there any official statement?
      The official announcement will be made when they arrive at the site and begin escorting, or whatever they are going to do there. In the meantime, only rumors about them there. However, as always. The Challengers immediately teleported to the LBS immediately after the official announcement.
      1. AndreyKam_Z
        AndreyKam_Z 10 September 2023 16: 38
        +2
        Airplanes are not tanks; they will be located at NATO airfields. They will fly in international airspace. An official statement should be to warn Russia and develop channels of communication between the military, as in Syria between the Russian Federation and the United States.
  8. Elis_S
    Elis_S 9 September 2023 11: 08
    -1
    It is difficult to imagine how the British Air Force intends to protect grain ships heading from Ukrainian ports if the Russians decide to impede their movement. It is unlikely that they would have dared to interfere with the Russian military by force. After all, an armed incident can provoke the most unpredictable scenarios, up to and including the outbreak of a military clash between Russia and NATO.

    These shaves have forgotten or don’t know our sayings at all: “a cat scratches its back.” and "whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword!"
    And here they are with their planes!
    1. blackGRAIL
      blackGRAIL 9 September 2023 12: 02
      -4
      The Britons see perfectly well that we just have to "talk". We are not capable of anything else.
  9. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 9 September 2023 11: 23
    0
    Reminds me of an old Soviet joke about an elephant: “He can, but who can give him currents)))
  10. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 9 September 2023 11: 23
    +2
    In recent weeks, British aircraft have been patrolling the Black Sea to prevent attacks on civilian shipping.

    If they shoot down a British plane - it's war, if they shoot down a Russian plane - it's war.
    Whatever one may say, this will happen and war is inevitable. NATO is trying to get into the Black Sea, exercises, protecting the grain deal, this led to the Third World War.
    1. Soldatov V.
      Soldatov V. 9 September 2023 11: 36
      -4
      There won’t be any war, and if there is, you won’t be able to escape fate. No matter how hard the USSR tried not to fight, circumstances beyond their control forced them to go into battle. soldier
    2. blackGRAIL
      blackGRAIL 9 September 2023 12: 03
      +1
      Write nonsense. Inconceivable. Shooting down a plane will not lead to any war. Only to the usual escalation of rhetoric.
    3. Escariot
      Escariot 9 September 2023 13: 56
      -1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      In recent weeks, British aircraft have been patrolling the Black Sea to prevent attacks on civilian shipping.

      If they shoot down a British plane - it's war, if they shoot down a Russian plane - it's war.
      Whatever one may say, this will happen and war is inevitable. NATO is trying to get into the Black Sea, exercises, protecting the grain deal, this led to the Third World War.

      How can I say... NATO doesn’t really meddle in the Black Sea, because it has been there for a long time. Of the 6.5 countries on the Black Sea coast (let’s count Abkhazia as half), 3 countries are already in NATO (Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania), one really wants to go there (Ukraine) and another (Georgia) wouldn’t refuse either. So they don’t even have to climb.
      1. Repellent
        Repellent 9 September 2023 14: 09
        -2
        Quote from Escariot
        Of the 6.5 countries on the Black Sea coast (let’s count Abkhazia as half), 3 countries are already in NATO (Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania), one really wants to go there (Ukraine) and another (Georgia) wouldn’t refuse either

        Ikariot, stop these... ahem, national things laughing

        - Ukraine is at war, and NATO has no chance for it yet
        - Georgia - they seem to have developed immunity after 8^3. In any case, Georgia is never eager to support 404
        - Turkey - hmm... interesting point))) In light of the latest rumors about (NATO's) desire to blow up the Black Sea "streams" - Turkey may have a big grudge against its partners in this organization. And not alone.

        Bulgaria, Romania are backyards... well, by the way. So, I repeat - stop with your branded tricks, it doesn’t work request laughing
        1. Escariot
          Escariot 9 September 2023 14: 30
          -3
          Quote: Repellent
          Quote from Escariot
          Of the 6.5 countries on the Black Sea coast (let’s count Abkhazia as half), 3 countries are already in NATO (Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania), one really wants to go there (Ukraine) and another (Georgia) wouldn’t refuse either

          Ikariot, stop these... ahem, national things laughing

          - Ukraine is at war, and NATO has no chance for it yet
          - Georgia - they seem to have developed immunity after 8^3. In any case, Georgia is never eager to support 404
          - Turkey - hmm... interesting point))) In light of the latest rumors about (NATO's) desire to blow up the Black Sea "streams" - Turkey may have a big grudge against its partners in this organization. And not alone.

          Bulgaria, Romania are backyards... well, by the way. So, I repeat - stop with your branded tricks, it doesn’t work request laughing

          You rely on rumors about the undermining of Turkish flows, and Yanovorb is about the fact that the good (or evil) half of the Black Sea coast is already under NATO, and another third of the coast will join NATO at the first opportunity. Well, the Straits are also under NATO.
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 9 September 2023 14: 45
            +1
            Quote from Escariot
            You rely on rumors about the undermining of Turkish flows

            Nonsense. I am saying that such rumors exist, and Turkey will simply be forced to react.

            Quote from Escariot
            а yanovorb about the fact that

            Hm. What is "janoworb"? wink

            Quote from Escariot
            the good (or evil) half of the Black Sea coast is already under NATO

            Repeating the same stupidity over and over again increases the size of the stupidity. Yes

            Quote from Escariot
            and another third of the coast will join NATO at the first opportunity

            When the whistling on the mountain gets louder. Not earlier request

            Quote from Escariot
            and the Straits are also under NATO

            Once again - Türkiye and NATO... everything is not easy there. After all, Greece is also in NATO laughing

            Summary: bad. Verbose and unconvincing.
            1. Escariot
              Escariot 9 September 2023 16: 37
              -1
              Quote: Repellent
              Quote from Escariot
              You rely on rumors about the undermining of Turkish flows

              Nonsense. I am saying that such rumors exist, and Turkey will simply be forced to react.

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              а yanovorb about the fact that

              Hm. What is "janoworb"? wink

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              the good (or evil) half of the Black Sea coast is already under NATO

              Repeating the same stupidity over and over again increases the size of the stupidity. Yes

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              and another third of the coast will join NATO at the first opportunity

              When the whistling on the mountain gets louder. Not earlier request

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              and the Straits are also under NATO

              Once again - Türkiye and NATO... everything is not easy there. After all, Greece is also in NATO laughing

              Summary: bad. Verbose and unconvincing.

              Do you deny the obvious fact that half of the Black Sea coastline already belongs to NATO countries?
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 9 September 2023 19: 30
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                Quote from Escariot
                Do you deny the obvious fact that half of the Black Sea coastline already belongs to NATO countries?

                No. I am just refuting your speculations, which you have made... well, a lot, based on this one, of course, well-known fact Yes laughing
                1. Escariot
                  Escariot 10 September 2023 06: 01
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                  Quote: Repellent
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                  Do you deny the obvious fact that half of the Black Sea coastline already belongs to NATO countries?

                  No. I am just refuting your speculations, which you have made... well, a lot, based on this one, of course, well-known fact Yes laughing

                  How can one refute the speculation that NATO has been in the Black Sea for a long time and at the same time agree that out of 6.5 countries located on the Black Sea coast, 3 are already members of NATO?
                  1. Repellent
                    Repellent 10 September 2023 08: 24
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                    How can one refute the speculation that NATO has been in the Black Sea for a long time and at the same time agree that out of 6.5 countries located on the Black Sea coast, 3 are already members of NATO?

                    This is not speculation. Speculation is your further, ahem... mental construction, sucked out of this immutable fact.

                    Substituting the subject of the dispute (what you are trying to do now) is a standard technique of a demagogue. In this case - small and untalented Yes laughing
  11. Mikhail Shamanov
    Mikhail Shamanov 9 September 2023 11: 24
    +1
    If in the World Cup Russia attacks Ukrainian ships, and the VSS, Britons attack ours and receive a response, this does not fall under Article 5.
    1. carpenter
      carpenter 9 September 2023 11: 33
      +4
      Quote: Mikhail Shamanov
      If Russia attacks ships in the World Cup, ukrov

      Here’s the catch: the ships are not all flying the Ukrainian flag.
      1. A2AD
        A2AD 9 September 2023 12: 08
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        Here’s the catch: the ships are not all flying the Ukrainian flag.
        What's the catch? It has already been stated more than once. Vessels involved or suspected of transporting weapons transferred to Ukraine or used to carry out drone strikes on Crimea and the Crimean bridge are participants in the conflict. As do the countries that presented their flag to them. And this is the problem of these countries, that they give out their flags to just anyone.
        1. Escariot
          Escariot 9 September 2023 14: 00
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          Quote from A2AD
          Here’s the catch: the ships are not all flying the Ukrainian flag.
          What's the catch? It has already been stated more than once. Vessels involved or suspected of transporting weapons transferred to Ukraine or used to carry out drone strikes on Crimea and the Crimean bridge are participants in the conflict. As do the countries that presented their flag to them. And this is the problem of these countries, that they give out their flags to just anyone.

          Well, have you read the convention on the law of the sea? It clearly states what needs to be done if a ship is suspected of weapons smuggling. The methods you propose fall within the UN definition of aggression. Study the regulatory framework.
  12. faterdom
    faterdom 9 September 2023 11: 37
    +2
    How do they see it for themselves? Will our inspection teams be attacked?
    And "Thames, sir!" won't work through Barrymore's lips?
    1. Escariot
      Escariot 9 September 2023 14: 05
      -2
      Quote: faterdom
      How do they see it for themselves? Will our inspection teams be attacked?
      And "Thames, sir!" won't work through Barrymore's lips?

      Of course not. There will be no problems with inspection teams. It is normal practice to inspect ships for weapons smuggling. It’s another matter if these merchant ships are subject to attacks. An attack by traders is actually an act of piracy and can already be responded to
      1. Sochi
        Sochi 9 September 2023 17: 12
        +1
        Yeah, in an area closed to navigation ... the entrance of any civilian vessel there is purely at your own peril and risk. They can slander purely by noise at night with a torpedo from a submarine and no one will present claims to anyone ...
  13. nik-mazur
    nik-mazur 9 September 2023 11: 41
    +2
    British aircraft patrol over the Black Sea to prevent attacks on civilian ships

    We’ll leave strikes on civilian ships to the conscience of whoever came up with this stupidity, but it’s wildly interesting how British planes plan to prevent such strikes? Will they rush at anti-ship missiles?
    1. A2AD
      A2AD 9 September 2023 11: 59
      0
      How are British aircraft supposed to prevent such strikes? Will they rush at anti-ship missiles?
      What if it’s not a rocket, but a drone? A drone attack in international waters or over the territory of 3 countries is a so-so price. From direct participation in an armed conflict to an attack on another state. At a minimum, after this it will be possible to shoot down everything from Naglichan that flies, no matter where it is found.
    2. blackGRAIL
      blackGRAIL 9 September 2023 12: 07
      -10
      VO commentators came up with this, and now the sofas have uncovered their covers before the war with all of NATO. Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense were going to inspect the ships.
    3. Escariot
      Escariot 9 September 2023 14: 31
      +1
      Quote from: nik-mazur
      British aircraft patrol over the Black Sea to prevent attacks on civilian ships

      We’ll leave strikes on civilian ships to the conscience of whoever came up with this stupidity, but it’s wildly interesting how British planes plan to prevent such strikes? Will they rush at anti-ship missiles?

      Rather, threaten to use their weapons against those who interfere with civilian navigation.
      1. nik-mazur
        nik-mazur 9 September 2023 20: 09
        +2
        Quote from Escariot
        Rather, threaten to use their weapons against those who interfere with civilian navigation

        Firstly, on what basis?
        Second, how?
        1. Escariot
          Escariot 10 September 2023 06: 04
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          Quote from: nik-mazur
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          Rather, threaten to use their weapons against those who interfere with civilian navigation

          Firstly, on what basis?
          Second, how?

          Based on the fight against piracy.
          How? Probably fighter jets flying nearby will somewhat moderate the ardor of potential pirates and force them to act in accordance with the convention on the law of the sea, and not attack civilian ships in international waters.
          1. nik-mazur
            nik-mazur 10 September 2023 12: 06
            +2
            Quote from Escariot
            Based on anti-piracy

            Have pirates appeared in the Black Sea?

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            Probably fighters flying nearby will somewhat moderate the ardor of potential pirates

            Fighters flying next to a cargo ship is very cool. Especially if you are close to everyone. A new word in the fight against pirates, which until now was carried out by warships.

            By the way, an interesting question: where are these British fighters supposed to fly from and on what route?
  14. Million
    Million 9 September 2023 11: 46
    -4
    Putin will agree to a grain deal on unfavorable terms for Russia.
  15. kakvastam
    kakvastam 9 September 2023 12: 53
    -6
    This is another check of the availability of testicles from our management.
    With a predictable result.
  16. Bledar
    Bledar 9 September 2023 14: 06
    0
    And if, under the gaze of English planes, a cargo ship heading to the Khokhlo port is shot down, then what will happen? Will shavers risk their health?
    1. Escariot
      Escariot 9 September 2023 14: 13
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      Quote: Bledar
      And if, under the gaze of English planes, a cargo ship heading to the Khokhlo port is shot down, then what will happen? Will shavers risk their health?

      And if they take the risk, then what?
      1. Repellent
        Repellent 9 September 2023 14: 49
        -3
        Quote from Escariot
        And if they take the risk, then what?

        They will die beautifully.
        1. Sgt.
          Sgt. 9 September 2023 15: 33
          +1
          Everything will depend on the order of our Defense Ministry.
        2. Escariot
          Escariot 9 September 2023 16: 38
          -1
          Quote: Repellent
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          And if they take the risk, then what?

          They will die beautifully.

          Then "they won't die", but "die", well, and we "go to paradise".
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 9 September 2023 19: 28
            -2
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            Then they “will not die”, but “die”, and we will “go to heaven”

            (gently): disappear Yes
  17. Cannon
    Cannon 9 September 2023 14: 53
    -3
    Information has appeared that London has announced the sending of combat aircraft to the Black Sea region to protect ships with grain +++++ And the planes will also send ships. And will we water them with kerosene?
  18. nikniknik
    nikniknik 9 September 2023 15: 17
    -2
    London will not guard grain carriers, but will carry out large-scale reconnaissance work with the transfer of information to the Armed Forces of Ukraine
  19. VladMirU
    VladMirU 9 September 2023 15: 36
    +2
    The key point in the article: "...if the Russians decide to impede their movement." This is where I get a sense of sarcasm. But I won’t say anything.
  20. Evgeny Popov_3
    Evgeny Popov_3 9 September 2023 16: 05
    0
    NATO Romanian plane with a helicopter was dropped last year and the war did not start
  21. Sergey3
    Sergey3 9 September 2023 17: 00
    +2
    Now we need a new geranium with an air defense function, although the old one coped well with this, probably three pieces of Ukrainian fighters were killed in an unequal battle with a geranium. wassat
  22. Cypa
    Cypa 9 September 2023 21: 31
    +2
    England is only raising tensions
  23. Mikhail Dadeko
    Mikhail Dadeko 10 September 2023 21: 08
    +2
    Very similar to “nonsense”, the British will hang themselves for stale pudding, and then send planes to the Black Sea to patrol! laughing
  24. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 11 September 2023 20: 38
    0
    We need to give them to the ambassador and the prime minister of "Niti".