Passion for "Sarmat" - will the United States be able to put the missile system under global control

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Passion for "Sarmat" - will the United States be able to put the missile system under global control


Who was going to control the "Sarmatians"?


Frankly, I re-read the title news times two. So it, at first glance, sounds absurd. If only because the global control implied by the White House is identical to strictly Anglo-Saxon, and even the French will not be allowed to reach it (in fact, of course, and not declaratively), after a kick - or, as the head of the Foreign Ministry of the Fifth Republic, Jean-Yves Le Drian, put it: a blow stabbed in the back - associated with Canberra canceled a highly profitable contract for Paris for $ 66 billion for the construction of 12 submarines for the Australian Navy. Is this not an ambiguous expression of the true attitude of the Anglo-Saxon "partners" towards France?

Remember this mess with AUCUS, which showed who is who in the unfriendly "gold billion" family and caused in our society not without justification gloating. Still: after something shameful for the Elysee Palace stories with the Mistrals, which were finally sacked by Egypt, and which demonstrated a humiliating dependence on the cry of the overseas hegemon, humiliating for the once first European power.



Still, it was not for nothing that de Gaulle could not stand the Anglo-Saxons and expelled the NATO headquarters from Paris back in 1966. But Hollande took and buried the greatness of France, reanimated with such difficulty by the general, becoming a symbol of shame, almost on a par with surrender ( it was only from a formal legal point of view that an armistice was signed in the Compeigne wagon) by Petain in June 1940 in front of Nazi Germany.

So France is outside the brackets. And not only her.

After the terrorist attack against the Nord Streams, which swallowed the silence of the laughing Scholz (remember the reaction Fuhrer chancellor to the mention of the genocide in the Donbass?), Germany will also not be called to control anything. Especially the Sarmatians. With all the economic power, the geopolitical weight of Germany is negligible.

Yes, and Japan occupied by the Americans is unlikely to be allowed to the "Sarmatians". Samurai have long been pointed to their place.

Only the United States and the once great Britain remain.

Remembering the Schlesinger Doctrine


And the United States has never given up its fundamental goal of achieving military superiority over both the USSR and Russia. Even during the period of maximum warming of relations, not to mention their current frosts.

Here, making a short digression into history, I immodestly allow myself to refer to my own, written a year and a half ago Articleby quoting the following lines from it:

After the entry into force of SALT-1, the very famous détente began, connected, among other things, with Nixon's visits to Moscow in 1972 and 1974 and the return visit by Brezhnev in 1973. However, amid friendly handshakes and toasts, then US Secretary of Defense James Schlesinger formulated the doctrine of a limited nuclear war, or decapitation strike.
His goal was to become Soviet command posts. These targets had to be hit before they were ordered to retaliate with nuclear weapons. weapons. Schlesinger's ideas were enshrined in NSDM 242 and were based primarily on the use of medium and shorter-range missiles with MIRVs, that is, in fact, the very forward-based forces around which so many copies were broken during the negotiation process.

Now the Americans are looking for ways to dialogue because of the broken parity (if it is more correct: one of its facets) in our favor. For the Sarmat, in contrast to the American strategic missile Minuteman III, which is inferior to it in a number of characteristics, has a greater range, mass, and combat load; in general, it is capable of flying through the South Pole and is inaccessible to enemy missile defense (for the technical features of the missile system, see. here), as well as I recommend a great and topical video:


And yet: what are the White House counting on?


Nevertheless, the absurdity of the demand of our most likely opponents looks like this only at first glance. For in what, in what, and in the ability to implement realpolitik on the international arena, the Americans cannot be denied. Therefore, yes, Washington cannot count on a dialogue with the current Russian authorities regarding the Sarmatians. And with conditionally tomorrow?

And the outwardly ridiculous demand of the United States may well be due to a bet on those internal forces in Russia that would like to return to the rosy times of the nineties for them. It is for you and me that they cause amazement (the speech of the first president from the rostrum of the American Congress in 1992, conducting him, a couple of years later, with an orchestra in Berlin during the withdrawal of Russian troops from Germany).

I think, gentlemen, who in those years felt like a fish in troubled waters, would not mind putting the Sarmatians under American control and generally removing them from combat duty. For preferences for themselves relatives.

Let us recall the withdrawal of Soviet and then Russian troops from East Germany. Perhaps those who accepted this criminal decision, from the point of view of ensuring the security of the USSR and Russia, did not receive any personal preferences - Gorbachev was generally extremely narrow-minded, but a sincere idealist, and both the GDR and Iraq surrendered for nothing. I, by the way, писал in my time about it.

However, within the framework of the picture of the world of random people in power and around it (who would be the average theoretician-economist Chubais in the Soviet Union, the engineer of the Moscow research institute Berezovsky, the mechanic of the ordinary SU Abramovich?), such a voluntary, without external influence of the enemy, a change in the strategic balance of forces turned out to be Maybe. Let me emphasize: it's not even about specific personalities - they are just an example and a background - but about the psychology of a certain type of fellow citizens, which does not go beyond the primitive: "rashka", "this country".

Accordingly, where are the guarantees that with completely atrophied geopolitical thinking (I would call it, mindful of Yugoslavia - Chernomyrdin's), the characters in the near-government structures are absent today and will not gradually try, without washing like that, to go towards the gentlemen from Capitol Hill?

And then the latter will slip the caliphs for an hour a barrel of jam and a basket of cookies, something similar to the Nunn-Lugar program, under which Soviet weapons were disposed of, and with it the highly scientific and unique technologies of the USSR were put under the knife?

How can this be done?

As an option: I believe that one of the urgent tasks of the domestic military-industrial complex in connection with the putting the Sarmatov on combat duty is the resumption of work on the creation (or rather, resuscitation) of the active protection complex for the Mozyr silo launchers.

They began back in the seventies, when our science was on the rise (its visible embodiment was the Energia-Buran program, which was ahead of its time, as well as the unrealized by the will of the Minister of Defense Marshal Grechko, although the more economical project of the Spiral aerospace system ), and were intended to protect the mine launchers of the Voevoda missile system. Works were led on the personal instructions of Marshal Ustinov.

Well, then the nineties came, and there was no time for missiles and security. Frankly, I could not find information about the revival of work on this more than currently relevant project in open sources: everything is only at the level of assumptions. It's understandable - it's a secret. But I think readers will agree: the time has come for the resuscitation of Mozyr.

An occasion to recall the concept of the Italian sociologist


This is where, I admit, delays can begin. Of course, I didn’t hold a candle, I’m not stating anything and I’m not blaming anyone. But, you see, the plume of the nineties, by historical standards, has not yet dissipated like morning fog. And how can one not recall Abramovich during the March, 2022, negotiations in Istanbul. Then, after all, it was as if a time machine had returned us to the last decade of the last century. And where are the guarantees that this kind of precedents with random people in power (or near it) will not be repeated again?

So don't scoff at the United States' demand that the Sarmatians be placed under their (to the public: "global") control.

In the quiet offices there, while American society itself is enjoying either BLM or the show with the Trump trial, they know how to play for a long time and wait, carrying out appropriate subversive work on formation (in this case, I recommend that those who are not in the know get acquainted with the concept of "Circulation of Elites" Italian sociologist Pareto) counter-elite within Russia.

However, I hope that such plans will go to waste, and Kozyrevism will never become a reality of our political history, and the "Sarmatians" will force the United States to reckon with the interests of Russia.
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  1. +13
    8 September 2023 05: 33
    There are plenty of sleepers and agents of influence from the USA and Britain in Russia... Garbuzov’s statement alone is worth it.
    So yes, I agree with the author, some newly-minted Gorbachev or Yeltsin will become president and that’s it...khan to us.
    Such people should not be allowed to come to power in Russia.
    1. man
      +23
      8 September 2023 06: 43
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      There are plenty of sleepers and agents of influence from the USA and Britain in Russia... Garbuzov’s statement alone is worth it.
      So yes, I agree with the author, some newly-minted Gorbachev or Yeltsin will become president and that’s it...khan to us.
      Such people should not be allowed to come to power in Russia.

      Everything is much more dangerous, this is a signal to our “elites” about the subject of bargaining in exchange for the lifting of sanctions, personal or all, it doesn’t matter!
      1. +9
        8 September 2023 08: 22
        Everything is much more dangerous, this is a signal to our “elites” about the subject of bargaining in exchange for the lifting of sanctions, personal or all, it doesn’t matter!
        Yes, a signal and at the same time a funeral march for the Russian Federation and them personally. They will surrender control and "acquired by overwork" will be confiscated, and the Russians, as a people, will turn into "Indians", of which there were 50 million, and now there are not even a million. But, alas, they believe in the West and do not believe in common sense. I bet on a quiet surrender of control. Too much of what is happening at odds with the declared in recent years.
        1. +11
          8 September 2023 08: 49
          Frankly, I re-read the news in the title twice. At first glance, it sounds so absurd. If only because the global control implied by the White House is identical to the strictly Anglo-Saxon one, and even the French will not be allowed to reach it

          What is Khodakov's article about. I threw out a bunch of theses, but didn’t ask a question. What do we deviate from. Who's asking? What is the formulation of the question of the asker?
          I can do it too: "I woke up at 5 am, saw the sunrise. I couldn't believe my eyes and looked out the window again. It's so absurd. But the French won't let that happen because AUCUS!" A CURTAIN.
          1. +8
            8 September 2023 09: 29
            What is Khodakov’s article about?

            Yes, it’s not clear what he’s talking about... And where did he even get the news - about “global control”? request

            I threw out a bunch of theses, but didn’t ask a question. What are we starting from?

            It seems to me that the article somehow connects Chubais, Berezovsky, De Gaulle, Abramovich, Scholz and the Sarmat missiles. How and why is unclear.
            “But this is not certain” (c).

            I can do that too
            No, you can't, and you won't get paid for it!

            PS. The author of the article is very prolific - judging by his profile, there are already 8 articles in less than a month. This is bad news. The good news is that the author no longer signs himself as a “candidate of historical sciences”; the Higher Attestation Commission still caught up with him!
            1. +1
              8 September 2023 14: 54
              Quote: Wildcat
              where did he even get the news about “global control”?

              From Constantinople. Allegedly, Pentagon press secretary S. Singh said something like that. But it is not exactly.
            2. +4
              9 September 2023 10: 11
              “The author of the article is very prolific - judging by the profile, there are already 8 articles in less than a month. This is bad news. The good news is that the author no longer signs as a “candidate of historical sciences”; the Higher Attestation Commission still caught up with him.”
              I answer on points.
              1. The fertility is due to the fact that some of the articles were written long ago for the Military-Industrial Courier, with which he collaborated for many years and which ceased to exist in April 2022.
              2. There is no signature under this article “candidate of historical sciences”, since it does not directly affect the scope of my scientific interests, but is a response to current news, is of a purely journalistic nature and is more of an invitation to discussion rather than comprehensive information on the topic.
              3. Regarding the Higher Attestation Commission. I defended myself at the Institute of Russian History of the Academy of Sciences and I am not ashamed of my work, which was posted in the public domain, link to it: https://www.dissercat.com/content/ocherki-russkoi-smuty-ai-denikina-kak-istochnik- po-izucheniyu-grazhdanskoi-voiny-na-yuge-ros. I am not ashamed of the large array of archival documents introduced into scientific circulation, just as I am not ashamed of the monograph published this year. "Moscow campaign of General Denikin."
              5. The article itself is about the possibility of returning to Yeltsin’s times – Kozyrev’s in foreign policy – ​​that is, about a topic that cannot but worry every adequate citizen of the country.
              1. +5
                10 September 2023 22: 25
                1. Understandable.
                Here, of course, the question is whether the “deceased” Military-Industrial Courier allowed you to submit these articles to other publications; and Voennoye Obozreniye would do well to look at the fate of your former publication platform.
                But I’m not a prude - as long as it doesn’t affect me personally, I can calmly watch how others make money this way.

                2. Since you are a scientist, could you still tell the interested reader where you found the news about which you are writing an article and what it looked like? It’s not every day that the United States, according to your version, is going to place Sarmat under global control? Because of your status, you are obligated to “work with sources,” aren’t you?

                3. I got acquainted with the abstract of your dissertation - miracle, you can do it! Do you understand what needs to be done"objective, free from ideological cliches, research that allows solving the problem on the basis of a wide range of sources and literature"And how do you even manage to write articles like this or about the “new Potsdam” after this?

                5. (By the way, where did point 4 go?) Oh, leave it. You don’t write about any “Yeltsin times”. You took the news about “The United States is going to put Sarmat under global control” from a source with an interesting reputation; they produced an incoherent text (in which paragraphs can be rearranged in any order), where it is not clear where the beginning is, where the end is and what follows from what; and now you are trying to somehow explain yourself.

                You must be ashamed. Don't do this again.

                If you haven’t noticed, your article not only “surprised” me, but also other readers. Here's one of the mild reviews: "Reklastik (Roman) Yesterday, 18:53 NEW
                Yes, there is practically no logical coherence laughing I always have anxious thoughts after a hangover..."

                And read the discussion that arose in the comments!
                Don’t you feel sorry for the slightly naive people who have once again “embarked on the warpath with the hegemon”?!

                It’s fine when such articles are written by poorly educated opportunists, but you...
          2. +4
            9 September 2023 18: 53
            Yes, there is practically no logical coherence laughing I always have anxious thoughts when I'm hungover...
    2. +5
      8 September 2023 13: 22
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I agree with the author, some newly-minted Gorbachev or Yeltsin will become president and that’s it...khan to us.
      Such people should not be allowed to come to power in Russia.

      Gorbachev and Yeltsin, these are already the consequences of what Nikita Khrushchev, an ardent lover of corn and a catcher and overtaker of America, did in the country. Those two just finished what the maizeman started.
      1. 0
        16 October 2023 12: 03
        finished what the corn man started

        Well, since there was such a booze, the corn farmer also didn’t get the country in the best shape, they all danced as best they could
    3. 0
      8 September 2023 21: 48
      Everyone should read Yuri Nikitin's "The Immortist".... of course, it's a utopia... but how could it be!
    4. 0
      10 September 2023 08: 15
      We can only hope that such corrupt politicians will not come to power in the Russian Federation.
      It is necessary to educate a core of managers devoted to Our state, and not to the imaginary democratic values ​​of the Western world.
    5. 0
      6 December 2023 10: 16
      Lyokha from Android: “So yes, I agree with the author, some newly minted Gorbachev or Yeltsin will become president and that’s it...khan to us.”
      The current guarantor, as I remember, was appointed by EBN and, in my opinion, the guarantor is not far removed from his former patron (only he doesn’t drink, dance, or “sing” like EBN). So, when the next one comes, I’m sure it will be from the same group of EBN accomplices! And as for Khan, all the years the guarantor has been in power have been nothing but agreements. One can also recall his words of bewilderment - how can the West not understand that ours are in power “of our own, bourgeois”...
  2. -14
    8 September 2023 05: 37
    In fact, the United States is not afraid of using xiao. there's too little of it
    1. man
      +9
      8 September 2023 06: 36
      Quote from Constantin N.
      In fact, the United States is not afraid of using xiao. there's too little of it

      Such arguments will persuade us to surrender Sarmat! am :
      1. -2
        8 September 2023 09: 17
        The point here is not in arguments, but stupidly in quantity and power. In order to disarm the states, our nuclear weapons may be enough, but to disarm the entire "Western world" - definitely not. In order to keep most enemies in real fear, it is necessary to increase the number of warheads by 2-3 orders of magnitude and rivet the corresponding number of carriers and launchers. And here the price of this event comes to the fore, and even more so - the price of operation. Well, with new urgency the question of control and safety of the dramatically increased system, as well as its reliability and guarantees against "accidental" unauthorized launches, arises.
        1. +7
          8 September 2023 17: 13
          Quote: vadimtt
          In order to keep most enemies in real fear, it is necessary to increase the number of warheads by 2-3 orders of magnitude and rivet the corresponding number of carriers and launchers.

          1. The Soviet Union overstrained itself precisely in the arms race.
          2. Missiles and SBP for them are not an end in themselves. The government's goal is to create normal, comfortable living conditions for the people of the country.
          3. We have long adopted the doctrine of a “minimum sufficient level of strategic nuclear forces.” As the unforgettable N.S. Khrushchev once said, when he was informed that the Yankees had 5 times more nuclear warheads than us: “It’s enough to bury them once.” Why mock corpses?
          4. It’s time to send the burry oligarchs to their historical homeland. The Demidovs, Putilovs, Morozovs will not sell their homeland, unlike the “man of the world” or “rootless cosmopolitans” as J.V. Stalin called them. First, the national bourgeoisie, and then "socialism with a human face." It’s definitely not possible to jump straight into communism without the bloody meat grinder of civil war. The bourgeoisie will not give up its power so easily.
          5. Nonsense about some kind of control over national strategic nuclear forces by someone = a fairy tale for the gullible! This will never happen! The elites themselves will not allow it. Not everyone is a corrupt creature all around. There are also patriots who care for the Fatherland. And now, based on the results of the SVO, they must still come to power in the country.
          6. It's high time for Moon-faced to follow the example of "father" to fuck the tops. The people are tired of injustice, corruption and embezzlement. He doesn’t want to get dirty himself - he would entrust this to the “iron Felix”. I guess there is one. Ramzan Kadyrovich is good for everyone, but a Great Russian is needed so as not to raise a nationalist wave.
          7. It’s time for the Russian Orthodox Church to get involved in the national improvement. Stop sitting on bags of gold. It’s time to put them into the business of “improving parishes”, and not just building new churches.
          This is so, modestly, offhand. About sore and on topic.
          AHA.
        2. +4
          9 September 2023 20: 27
          it is necessary to increase the number of warheads by 2-3 orders of magnitude


          On what order? Binary or decimal? In ordinary literature they mean 10-digit. Those. Do we need not 1.5 thousand warheads as now, but 15 thousand or even 150 thousand? sad
    2. +1
      9 September 2023 17: 50
      Quote from Constantin N.
      there's too little of it

      Did you personally go, poke a finger into each apple to count, in order to fart publicly into a puddle?
  3. -11
    8 September 2023 05: 37
    ***
    "Sarmatushka"
    ---
    A hero with electronics is complex,
    I'm glad to defend my homeland,
    We are carefully in a steel container,
    Let's leave out our formidable Sarmatian.
    ---
    The complex of command instruments sleeps,
    A mighty charge awaits the command,
    Hit the enemy's hole,
    Russian Sarmat is going.
    ---
    Oh Mother Russia, Sarmatushka is ready for battle,
    Believe us with a red banner grandmother.
    ---
    It accumulated all the power of the Yenisei,
    The will is stronger than the Ural Mountains,
    Scatter enemies into the dust in an instant,
    He is ready to carry out the sentence.
    ---
    US missile defense is not a hindrance to him,
    Sanctions are not scary for him,
    For Sarmat there is only joy,
    Disturb NATO members' dreams.
    ---
    From Mother Russia the Sarmatushki look into the distance,
    To the United States.
    ---
    Our Sarmat is an engineering miracle,
    Our Sarmat is a powerful voice of the country,
    Let them be afraid of Bandera-Judas,
    Warmongers of a new war.
    ---
    And the world bourgeoisie trembles,
    On the way to Hell,
    And is on combat duty,
    Our mighty handsome Sarmat.
    ---
    Mother Russia has the post of Sarmatushka,
    On chevrons and in hearts - grandmothers,
    Oh Mother Russia, in sadness adversary,
    There is no victory, only good luck.
    ---
    Oh Mother Russia, oh Sarmatushka is strong,
    Keep your nose up little soldier, little brother,
    Oh Mother Russia - charge up Ivanushka,
    God is with us and Sarmatushka is with us...
    ---
    (Denis Maidanov, Dmitry Ragozin 17.12.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX)
    ***
  4. +5
    8 September 2023 05: 47
    Nevertheless, the absurdity of the demand of our most likely opponents
    Times are changing, and not long ago, partners were, and so they said, "our American partners." smile
    1. +2
      8 September 2023 05: 55
      they said so, "our American partners
      And we were deceived again. sad
      1. +3
        8 September 2023 06: 31
        And we were deceived again.
        Maybe them? smile
      2. +1
        8 September 2023 17: 25
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        And we were deceived again.

        Well, how naive the GRU guys have become these days!!!
        Just unkissed babies...
        More modest than a red maiden before marriage:
        no intelligence, no courage!
        Or maybe everything is much simpler?
        Profit was the reason!
        As the famous poet said
        (your son of a bitch, not a foreign bastard!)
        "Oh, deceive me not long
        I’m glad to be deceived myself! "
        laughing
  5. -4
    8 September 2023 05: 52
    unlike the American strategic missile Minuteman III, which is inferior to it in a number of characteristics, it has a greater range, mass, combat load; generally capable of flying across the South Pole and inaccessible to enemy missile defense

    as I understand it is our last bond? but in reality it will be like everything else ....
    ps of course, they have nothing to fear overseas, because. even with a presumptuous neighbor near the western border, we can’t do anything, bound everywhere by the rules of the IMF, the UN, and other hostile structures, and the towers are not at all the same as 80 or 180 years ago (they look to the west with subservience ...)
    1. +4
      8 September 2023 11: 39
      Quote: Vladimir80
      and the towers are not at all the same as 80 or 180 years ago (they look to the west with obsequiousness...)

      And they have been looking at it this way since the time of the Empire. "What will they say (or even think) in Europe?"was the leitmotif of the foreign policy of the Republic of Ingushetia. They even communicated in European languages ​​- in order to show their involvement in cultural Europe, and not in gray-legged Russia.

      Imperial Kremlin towers St. Petersburg's palaces led debt-ridden Russia to the slaughter of the First World War.
      1. -3
        9 September 2023 10: 48
        Quote: Alexey RA
        And they have been looking at it this way since the time of the Empire. “What will they say (or even think) in Europe?”

        And what? In Europe they thought well when RI seized 1/6 of the landmass. And only thanks to Geyropa’s approval we now have such a large oil and gas country.
  6. -6
    8 September 2023 06: 14
    I hope that the computer circuit of this gadget is not connected to the Internet and without USB sockets
    Stuxnet, my love ;)
    The best way to control this “thing” is to spoil it with perfume more than with money, but one does not exclude the other :)))
  7. 0
    8 September 2023 06: 15
    [media=https://vk.com/video89126682_170791100] This is roughly what I would like to say about the control of our Strategic Missile Forces
  8. 0
    8 September 2023 06: 17
    Question... is something new, unusual, unexpected happening in the world???
    It seems like everything is as always.... that is, there are changes, different and serious too, but the fundamentals, as they were, remain the same!
    The passions around nuclear affairs, weapons of deterrence, weapons that, it seems, cannot be used, are all the same, all in the same place and started by the same political, world figures!
    Although, this is not the main thing, for us, at least.... around us they are breeding, condensing, constantly disturbing the topic that we, ours, WILL BE CREATED AGAIN!!! And the closer to the elections, the worse things will be for foreigners at the front and in various other places, positions of confrontation, the more actively the topic will be stirred up!
  9. 0
    8 September 2023 07: 23
    In short, everything is as always, nothing changes from century to century, and all this will not end until humanity destroys itself!
  10. +3
    8 September 2023 07: 26
    Some kind of mishmash, all mixed up and very tense on the globe, an owl...
  11. +2
    8 September 2023 08: 14
    Tired of this hypocrisy. The predecessor of the current one swore in the American Congress that he would continue the holy cause of hammering nails into the coffin of communism, his follower confirmed this to overseas partners, 30 years have not passed, they quarreled to the ground and now they are a likely adversary. Moreover, we are all the years before, hammered into the brain that the United States is a pillar of peace and democracy. Even the Constitution was originally written according to their model, with the help of their consultants, and then they did not cancel it, they just made some changes.
  12. BAI
    0
    8 September 2023 08: 37
    It is necessary to take developments from the Broken Sword of the Empire and revive them. Urgently. Especially space projects
    1. +2
      8 September 2023 17: 41
      Quote: BAI
      It is necessary to take developments from the Broken Sword of the Empire and revive them.

      "Where is the money, Zin!?" (With)
      It’s the Yankees who shamelessly draw their green papers. And the naive “Indians” take them, not provided with anything financially, and rush around with them like beads.
      And we need to work hard “in the depths of the Siberian ores” in order to earn that little penny... And then, clenching in a sweaty fist, think hard: how much for food, for clothing, for pensions and benefits, for culture, science and other needs . And the “Broken Sword of the Empire” still needs to be repaired... There just isn’t enough money for everything.
      And then quite new, science-intensive branches of S&T have appeared, and weapons are becoming smart and high-precision ... And all this is money, money, money !!!
      Therefore, the impulse counts, but everything must be balanced. That’s why Mishustin was put at the head of the table, to share with everyone according to fairness and priority the tasks facing the country.
      IMHO.
  13. -3
    8 September 2023 09: 39
    Since Russia will never be able to defeat the West with conventional weapons, all that remains is to build up weapons of mass destruction
    1. -2
      10 September 2023 13: 55
      Quote: itarnmag
      Russia will never be able to defeat the West with conventional weapons
      And today Russia is defeating whom and with what?
  14. -5
    8 September 2023 10: 23
    Americans can be understood. Their personal control over the Strategic Missile Forces is disappearing, and in order not to completely miss the situation, they are coming up with various schemes for allegedly controlling the world community over Sarmat.
    It is clear that all these Abramovichs and Chubais are constantly leaking information to the Americans, and doing everything in their favor. Although with the advent of the Internet, both they and we know everything in principle.
    "Sarmat" purely in terms of characteristics is a missile for attacking or deterring the United States.
    But if it starts, then how unfortunate it is from Europe, from the Western and Eastern together, I hope without the Russian part.
    Now the main thing is to destroy the missiles covering the whole of Europe. If they move, destroy them. And then sit down at the negotiating table with crazy Biden, or another crazy person. soldier
  15. +1
    8 September 2023 11: 44
    I don’t understand how Gorbachev surrendered Iraq? Was Iraq pro-Soviet in the eighties? There were no repressions against the Iraqi Communist Party? Didn't the Americans supply chemical weapons to Iraq? Wasn’t it the United States that told the whole world that it was Iraq and Hussein had nothing to do with it? Didn't the US sell anthrax to Iraq in 1984? Was it not the United States in those days, as now, that was looking all over the world for Soviet weapons to supply Iraq, since the USSR stopped supplies to Iraq? What did Hussein say about the Afghan war? What did Bush Sr. write about Iraq in 1989? Where did all this nonsense about our ally Iraq come from? Hussein was like Zelensky in those years, but he attacked Kuwait and history was immediately rewritten. If Zelya attacks Moldova tomorrow, and the Americans say that he is a dictator, he will also become our ally and someone will say that he didn’t bomb the Donbass?
    1. +1
      8 September 2023 14: 22
      Quote from alexoff
      I don’t understand how Gorbachev surrendered Iraq? Was Iraq pro-Soviet in the eighties? There were no repressions against the Iraqi Communist Party? Didn't the Americans supply chemical weapons to Iraq? Wasn’t it the United States that told the whole world that it was Iraq and Hussein had nothing to do with it? Didn't the US sell anthrax to Iraq in 1984? Was it not the United States in those days, as now, that was looking all over the world for Soviet weapons to supply Iraq, since the USSR stopped supplies to Iraq? What did Hussein say about the Afghan war? What did Bush Sr. write about Iraq in 1989? Where did all this nonsense about our ally Iraq come from? Hussein was like Zelensky in those years, but he attacked Kuwait and history was immediately rewritten. If Zelya attacks Moldova tomorrow, and the Americans say that he is a dictator, he will also become our ally and someone will say that he didn’t bomb the Donbass?

      Iraq was a military ally of the USSR, and the American embassy only appeared at the height of the Iraq-Iran War. Before this there were no diplomatic relations at all.
      1. -1
        8 September 2023 23: 53
        When Gorbachev came to power, he had not been an ally for 6 years. With the same success, one can say that Stalin dealt with an ally in Berlin. Was Iraq an ally of the USSR at the time of the storm in the toilet? Or maybe he was an ally of the United States, which sent a fleet to protect Iraqi ships and even forgave the hit of Iraqi missiles on one of its vessels?
        1. 0
          9 September 2023 19: 16
          Quote from alexoff
          When Gorbachev came to power, he had not been an ally for 6 years. With the same success, one can say that Stalin dealt with an ally in Berlin. Was Iraq an ally of the USSR at the time of the storm in the toilet? Or maybe he was an ally of the United States, which sent a fleet to protect Iraqi ships and even forgave the hit of Iraqi missiles on one of its vessels?

          Was an ally at the time of the Storm in the Glass. It’s just that the USSR was not ready to provide full assistance while on the verge of death. And so they tried to mess up something in diplomacy as best they could. For example, Iraq tried to surrender to the USSR, not the UN. It didn’t work, the USA built a highway of death and showed that you need to surrender not to your allies, but to those you are fighting with
  16. -4
    8 September 2023 12: 23
    I’m reading about “... the criminal withdrawal of troops from Eastern Europe...” and I can’t understand: those who write this have completely lost their memory? HOW could it be possible to keep troops in countries that were almost entirely against this? In the economic situation that developed in the late 80s - early 90s in the USSR?
    What kind of shisha?
    Carry out a harsh occupation instead of a “friendly Warsaw Pact”?
    Forgot about loans that could not be serviced? Constant queues for almost any food in cities?
    Now the Russian economy is sufficiently diversified, there is a very developed private sector, but then how and at what cost could a “tough imperial policy” be pursued?
  17. +1
    8 September 2023 12: 53
    Well, they put it in the mine instead of the old one, which was subject to decommissioning, now Sarmat, similar in basic parameters.. and what has changed dramatically globally, author? the article was pulled out of thin air..
    1. +3
      8 September 2023 17: 52
      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
      now Sarmat, similar in basic parameters .. and that has changed dramatically globally,

      The carrier - yes. But the combat equipment is completely different. 15Yu71 is not a ballistic gimmick! 3 GZ blocks that cannot be stopped are like death!
      Therefore, there is no need to level our achievements in the armaments of the Strategic Missile Forces. This is our trump card in all negotiations with the Yankees and the guarantor of inevitable retribution for possible aggression.
      1. 0
        8 September 2023 23: 54
        What is the article about? That the Americans and the world community will mentally control these blocs?
      2. -1
        9 September 2023 05: 49
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Carrier - yes. But the combat equipment is completely different.

        agree. But what is the leveling? You could intercept BB before, but now even more so. I’m talking about the fact that if there were so many BBs on Voivode, now there are so many on Sarmat in the same mine - what is the sharp change in the balance of power, as the author says? Now, if a new division were put into service, then yes..
        1. +1
          10 September 2023 12: 33
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          You could intercept BB before, but now even more so.

          The first interception of a BB was back in shaggy 1961:
          March 4, 1961. An R-12 ballistic missile with a dummy warhead weighing 500 kilograms was launched from the Kapustin Yar test site. The target was detected at a distance of 1 kilometers after it emerged above the radio horizon; after computer calculations, the B-500 anti-missile missile was launched. A cloud of shrapnel consisting of 1000 thousand metal balls tore the P-16 warhead into pieces, and it took three days to collect them.

          The Yankees also shoot down “direct aircraft” with their interceptors
          November 17, 2020 shipborne anti-missile Standard SM-3 Block IIA with DDG 113 John Finn EM (Arleigh Burke type Flight IIA series) during testing FTM-44 After intercepting an intercontinental ballistic missile simulator, the ICBM simulator was destroyed by a direct hit.
          But they can disable the maneuvering warhead only of the nuclear warhead of the GBS anti-missile system, and then if the FCS gives out firing data. And this is very problematic: the data is constantly changing, there is a reset and everything is new!
          1. 0
            11 September 2023 13: 35
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

            The first interception of a BB was back in shaggy 1961:

            Yes, single ones are possible, I agree - I forgot.. but a dozen at the same time is already very problematic.. and on Voivode (Sarmat) there is more than one, and there are false targets..
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            But they can disable the maneuvering warhead only of the nuclear warhead of the GBS anti-missile system, and then if the FCS gives out firing data.

            Voevoda also has maneuvering BBs, in this Sarmat is not unique.. Sarmat is essentially a modernized Voevoda, assembled in the Russian Federation, without Ukraine..
            Total what has changed globally in the balance of power? as the author writes in the article... I’m just talking about this..
  18. +6
    8 September 2023 14: 56
    Hmm, yes. Texts of this quality used to be at least considered “opinions”.
    1. +1
      8 September 2023 23: 51
      After articles following the news of Constantinople, one should expect breakthrough articles on REN-TV news.
      Something like "a new weapon of reptilians", "foil hats from radiation exposure: styles, materials" and "which cacti better protect against monitor radiation, TIN and chipping through vaccinations."

      It’s better to let them copy and paste the BMPD with a two-day delay, right... crying
  19. +1
    8 September 2023 16: 19
    For the Sarmatians, it’s none of their business. That is why the Supreme Commander-in-Chief will make sure that not a single missile flies past.
    BUT!!!! Paris, France, contract for 66 lard? What talk about money, orders after the Mistrals? Trust the French, don't respect yourself.
  20. +1
    8 September 2023 17: 52
    I can agree with the placement of "Sarmatians" under international control, but only after the entire territory of the AUKUS countries is placed under Russian control
  21. +5
    8 September 2023 20: 42
    Why, in fact, is the point of view that the "Sarmat" is many times more dangerous for the United States and that they will really want to bind it with some kind of agreements? This is far from the first "huge vigorous corn" in our country, and we could have made enough rustle with the previous ones. What will change critically here?
    Flight time? From the fact that the continental United States will hypothetically be hit by this product, say, 5-10 minutes earlier, NOTHING will change. All the same, there is enough time to make decisions and react, all the same, other elements of the "triad" will light up earlier in the conditions of modern intelligence. Thrown mass? Not the first, far from the first thick-meat product - in the context of the emerging arms race, it is already in orbit, frankly, a controversial strategy. Combination of price and scale of release? And again, probably not. Because huge rockets, in principle, cannot cost cheap, they are not dispersed by the holy spirit, they do not stand in an open field and do not grow on trees like sausages. Rearmament will cost a pretty penny and stretch for many years, during which old products will dominate quantitatively. Maybe the ability to overcome missile defense lines will change? There is also skepticism here - a silo-based ICBM is a priori located in the depths of its territory, at the launch stage it is the least vulnerable in this configuration, if we consider its potential. vulnerability in the case of deploying missile defense elements in orbit (well, let's assume) - this is the most common hefty corn with a huge thermal footprint, targeting hypothetical orbital interception means on which will not present technical difficulties.
    In general, why did we get the idea that the task of intercepting the "Sarmat" AP is much more sweaty for the American missile defense system than intercepting other ICBR APs? In any case, these are extremely vile targets, high speed cranes, false targets, and so on. But here the question is - how EXACTLY do we imagine what the American missile defense system is capable of? I mean, how much can we trust our understanding of this, given a lot that's happened in a decade.

    In no way do I claim that the "Sarmat" is not dangerous. No. However, I repeat the question - what exactly "Sarmat" should be SO dangerous for our overseas comrades, so that they start madly twisting their sweaty palms? Regarding the classic ICBR, of which we already have a mountain.

    It seems to me that in the mumbling around this topic there is an element of jingoistic mysticism in the style of "van derwaffe", while in fact there is no sensation, and an even faster rocket is just another 1 serving of hemorrhoids for the Americans, but not some kind of conceptual breakthrough.

    All this missile topics have almost hit a certain physical ceiling for 30-40 years, and while the principles of counteraction are developing in different directions (detection, AI interception systems, improving the guidance of interceptors, the potential for the development of LO of the same, etc.), the principles of launching hefty monstrous corn from the ground and throwing their mass along the ball trajectory do not change, or there is a meager increase.
    Of course, there are different casting strategies, the same “orb.”, but if I’m not mistaken, this is subject to various international agreements, which essentially leave us with a race in the classical Catholic direction, where the horse has almost reached its physical limits.
    How in such an approach can something surprise the enemy or make him panic?
  22. +1
    8 September 2023 21: 11
    In the towers sit the direct heirs of the hungover usurper and the “young reformers” who completed their task and went, some on vacation, some underground. She is both yesterday and today from the same root. What “tomorrows” are we talking about? Pebble, with the edges of the article, right? wink POINT
  23. +2
    8 September 2023 21: 25
    “Russia can have as many nuclear suitcases and nuclear buttons as it wants, but since 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks, you will still figure it out: is it your elite or is it ours?” Z. Brzezinski
    And that says a lot...
  24. -2
    8 September 2023 21: 56
    Perhaps the striped ones are worrying in vain. Are you sure that 100% of Sormatovs will fly at the right time and in the right direction? Recent attempt to conquer the Moon
    with the sad results of effective “managers” does not give any reason for optimism. They can divide the money, call projects with big names and paint missiles as Khokhloma, too, but the reliability of rocket technology requires a different level of business management. The projects of the Coalition, Armada, Boomerang, organizing the production of the new AN-2 and restoring the only aircraft carrier in Russia are examples for you.
  25. +1
    9 September 2023 14: 05
    First, you need to put the entire US military-industrial complex under Russian control, and only then raise the question of control over the Russian one!
  26. +1
    10 September 2023 05: 37
    "...Gorbachev was generally extremely narrow-minded, but a sincere idealist..." Author, Gorbachev was a sincere fagot..... m!!!!!!!!!!!!.
    1. +1
      10 September 2023 08: 20
      He was simply far from sincere and not “narrow-minded”; on the contrary, he was a tough and purposeful traitor. You still need to be able to take advantage of the disintegration of the “great community of the Soviet people” and not expose yourself to being picked off like a corn picker.
    2. 0
      10 September 2023 16: 21
      Gorbachev was a lackey from birth. When he became Secretary General, and there was no one to serve him, he found himself a new master - Reagan, to please him
      1. +1
        11 September 2023 07: 47
        The lackeys of the empire do not fall apart. The system had a lot of “safeties” to prevent collapse. He managed to bypass them all or “rip them out.” There were enough figures in the system who did not want to change the existing state of affairs. He simply eliminated them, sometimes physically. No, it wasn’t just that he was marked.
  27. 0
    10 September 2023 16: 19
    In my opinion, Americans have lost the ability to engage in realpolitik. In situational alliances they are still strong, which, however, is explained by the strength of the dollar. In addition, America is torn apart by internal contradictions
    1. 0
      11 September 2023 07: 54
      The USA is not a state, in the normal sense of such, but a platform for the printing press of cut paper. And as soon as its stability is threatened, all contradictions will disappear, because real rules will only allow neocons and conditional Trumpites to frolic until this moment.
  28. 0
    14 September 2023 11: 04
    Gorbachev was generally an extremely narrow-minded, but sincere idealist,

    He was a first-class bastard, and there is no need to excuse this marked one.
    1. 0
      4 December 2023 14: 49
      You are right, well done.....
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  30. 0
    4 December 2023 14: 48
    Somehow the question of the article is not clear: “will the United States be able to put the missile system under global control”???? And when and what was under “global control”??
    Gorby and the idiot Yeltsin were placed under US control.
    Now the head of the State is Putin. This means we need to pose the Question: Will Putin now give the Russian Armed Forces under US control?
    In fact, the situation looks idiotic when, until recently, “controllers” from the USA and NATO roamed around the Russian yard.
    It is clear that even now, in fact, there are still US agents at all levels of power structures.
    This is how this issue needs to be resolved, and not wipe away snot with a handkerchief and send “grievances”...
  31. 0
    23 December 2023 04: 08
    However, I hope that such plans will go to waste, and Kozyrevism will never become a reality of our political history, but will force the United States to take into account the interests of Russia.

    It is not the “Sarmatians” that will force the United States to take into account the interests of Russia, but the economic independence of the country and the built political and economic formation - socialist (in our case). It was the USSR that was taken into account, but no one will take the stub of a liberal financial speculative economy, dependent on oil prices and the dollar exchange rate, into account. And these dollars are printed in the USA and oil is quoted in dollar prices.