Turkish media: UN has prepared a new package of proposals for Russia on a grain deal

The UN has prepared a new package of proposals for Russia on a grain deal. This international organization promised to unfreeze the assets of companies from the Russian Federation if Moscow unblocks the Black Sea corridor for ships with grain coming from Ukrainian ports.

This message was made by the Turkish news agency Anadolu.

Turkish media, citing sources, reveals the details of the UN proposal. Among other things, this package provides for the reconnection of Rosselkhozbank to the SWIFT system. In addition, the Russians are promised to unfreeze their foreign assets. We are talking about companies from the Russian Federation specializing in the production of fertilizers.

Following Russia's withdrawal from the UN-brokered initiative, efforts continue to revive the corridor

- notes the Turkish news agency.

Journalists note that the package of proposals prepared by the UN for Moscow was also discussed at the meeting of the Foreign Ministers of Russia and Turkey - Sergey Lavrov and Hakan Fidan. The Turkish side highly appreciated the content of the document. The Turkish Foreign Minister noted that he could contribute to the revival of the grain deal.

The Black Sea grain export initiative will be one of the main topics at the upcoming meeting between Russian leader Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. It will take place on September 4 in Sochi. The fact of the upcoming negotiations was confirmed by the head of the Kremlin press service, Dmitry Peskov.

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[Alien From]

There are only chairs in the morning and grain in the evening .....

[fa2998]

I agree, only under the conditions that our export companies start working. The lifting of all sanctions, then you can think about it. Otherwise, grain trucks will start moving again, and Russian goods will be frozen somewhere, arrested, etc.

[Shurik70]

Quote: fa2998

Lifting of all sanctions

Why do we need this cancellation?
It is necessary to distance ourselves from NATO, we must not give them any levers of influence on ourselves.
So even when they cancel it, they will have to introduce their own.
Let them return the accounts in their banks. Taking into account inflation and lost income (and immediately you need to withdraw money from there).
And under the grain deal - let them not only return the captured ships, but also pay compensation for demurrage.

[svp67]

Quote: Alien From

There are only chairs in the morning and grain in the evening .....

Why do we need chairs? No, we definitely don’t need them, there are enough of our own. So, let's MONEY, but MONEY GO...

[seregatara1969]

And what, the previous terms of the deal have already begun to be fulfilled? Or again tinder for the case from the lantern? The second time to deceive on the chaff will not work!

[uncle_Rustam]

How else will it work. How's the classic? "Oh, it's easy to deceive me, I myself am glad to be deceived"

[Ulan.1812]

And what do we care about Ukrainian grain?
Buy ours, we do not forbid anyone to buy our grain.
We have a lot of it and we are ready to sell the surplus.

[Quiet Don]

Surplus, do we have a lot of it? Who has
us? Have our prices for bread and feed decreased? Something is not noticeable.

[fa2998]

I remember that in the USSR good grain was imported from America. And they fed animals from their own. And there was a large livestock industry. Now the farms have been destroyed, we eat ourselves, and even there are surpluses.

[bayard]

Quote: Quiet Don

Have we that, prices for bread and animal feed have decreased? Something is not noticeable.

Believe me, if they (grain traders) do not sell all the grain abroad, they will simply raise domestic prices. With oil (when the world price falls), the same thing happens - gasoline rises in price.
And yes - one of the leading grain traders in the Russian Federation is the American company Monsanta.

[Repellent]

Quote: bayard

one of the leading grain traders in the Russian Federation is the American company Monsanta

Saturn no longer pour ...

[bayard]

Quote: Repellent

Saturn no longer pour ...

And you take an interest. And she is not alone in this matter. Nowadays it is possible that the business is managed through a trusted company, but last year it was definitely like that. And she is not alone.
Not without mutual “benefit” - seed material from hybrid high-yielding seeds ... and agricultural chemicals.

[Repellent]

Quote: bayard

And you ask

With pleasure. Provide links, be beavers. At least for

Quote: bayard

it was exactly like this last year

Well, at least.

PS: I am aware of your love for all kinds of conspiracies, yes.

[bayard]

Quote: Repellent

Provide links, be beavers. At least for

Unfortunately, I do not collect links, and not all of them are kept in memory. But this topic has already been discussed, by the way, on the forums of this site. And they were thrown to me myself along with a list of those very companies - the largest grain traders in the Russian Federation, three or four largest, one of them was just Monsanta, which it would be a shame not to remember. Then the topic was discussed that the so-called. "Ukrainian grain" is not Ukrainian at all, and its most fertile lands have long been rented (and now most likely already sold) to large transnational corporations. Even before the coup, they were actively exporting from used not only grain, but also black soil - by echelons and ships. In the south there are used such multi-meter deposits, they were still taken out by the Germans during the Second World War. This time the French took out - tenant companies (then) affiliated with the French Rothschilds. The topic is well-known and at one time was discussed in / on quite widely. So then they sent me links and a list of those grain trading companies in the Russian Federation. And there are also these transnational corporations.
And what actually surprises you? Russia became a grain exporter quite recently, with the help of, incl. these same corporations that supplied machinery, seed material, agrochemistry, and technologies. Until now, this dependence has not been liberated, although efforts are being made. Is it so surprising that those who supplied all this to Russia became the main beneficiaries of Russian grain exports? They most likely initially set such conditions.
Or is it new to you that Chinese companies also rent agricultural land in the Far East and Siberia in the Russian Federation? Will you also protest, or at least watch TV and YouTube?
And it’s hard to get rid of such dependence - the seeds are hybrid, high-yielding, but ... they don’t bear fruit again. Or they don't bear fruit well. That is why, in the last couple of years, Putin has demanded the revival of his own seed farms. There is a state program with a budget, something is already being done. But "full sovereignty" is still far away.
Or maybe you don’t know that the domestic poultry industry, which has achieved such success and development, also mainly imports chickens or fertilized eggs from Europe? As well as starter feeds, and preparations for infections for young animals?
Would you call this a conspiracy too?
So there is such a dependence. And not because we have no one else to sell grain to, but because the strategic suppliers of our agricultural holdings are engaged in trading. They are connected by contracts and supplies of spare parts, equipment, seeds, etc. for this agricultural (I'm not afraid of this word) industry.
So look for the materials yourself, upon request in Google, the benefit is not turned off yet, but I do not archive links. And about the fact that it was so (it was) in Ukraine, and in Russia - I know, I remember, I'm interested. After all, I still live in Donetsk.

[Repellent]

Quote: bayard

look for materials yourself, on request in Google, since it’s not turned off yet, but I don’t archive links

Well ... thanks for the kind words, as they say

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: bayard

one of the leading grain traders in the Russian Federation is an American company

Before the revolution, when Russia "fed the whole of Europe," American companies exported grain from Russia.
And, by no means, not too much. Then in Russia, almost a year later, there was famine in one province, then in another, then in two dozen at once.
The export of grain was the main cause of the systematic famine in Tsarist Russia. Since bread was the main food in the Russian countryside, 90% of the sown area was accounted for by cereals.
On the eve of the PM war, in almost half (in 48,7%) of the counties, the collection of food grains was less than 15 poods per capita of the rural population on average, and in more than a quarter (in 28,6%) of the counties - less than 10 poods. These figures include both kulak and landowner grain, which accounted for at least half of the gross grain output.

[uncle_Rustam]

I see the words of an experienced and knowledgeable person.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ulan.1812

And what do we care about Ukrainian grain?

That's just the point, why there is a howl over the grain. Yes, because the grain has long been no longer Ukrainian, but Western, so Guterres and his comrades are climbing out of their skin. For Ukrainian grain, no one will vomit on the American flag.

[AndreyKam_Z]

no one ass on the American flag, will not tear

Actually, the English flag is more in use, although if you think about the American ones ......
Well, you are a dreamer.

[Andobor]

They will tear it up, this is their money, what Ukraine does not receive for grain, they will shell out from their own pockets to support the war.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: tihonmarine

That's just the point, why there is a howl over the grain. Yes, because the grain has long been no longer Ukrainian, but Western, so Guterres and his comrades are climbing out of their skin.

Something like this. Whose land is the grain, and the Ukrainian land is where the cat cried. Main owners of foreign companies (clickable)

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Ulan.1812

And what do we care about Ukrainian grain?

That's just the point, why there is a howl over the grain. Yes, because the grain has long been no longer Ukrainian, but Western, so Guterres and his comrades are climbing out of their skin. For Ukrainian grain, no one will vomit on the American flag.

You're right, I know that too. The Ukrainians have already sold everything.
And the land there is owned mainly by foreign companies through front men. And now foreigners are allowed to buy. They sell everything.

[razved]

Why not prepare a new one if the old one is not being fulfilled?

[Rockerman]

Well, why, to be led by the nose again?

[tihonmarine]

The UN has prepared a new package of proposals for Russia on a grain deal.

The package has long been formed by Russia, it remains to fulfill it. But if the UN again begins to invent new "packages", then the same question arises again, and the answer to it is "Again you want to deceive Russia."

[uncle_Rustam]

And then they get confirmation. "So yes. We want again And we don't just want to, but we will do it." Well, in fact, why wouldn’t they want to repeat what they have done more than once or twice - first lead one famous character by the nose, and then maliciously and cynically deceive him. After all, this well-known character is only capable of stating this fact after he has been maliciously and cynically deceived, with bitterness in his voice and tears in his eyes. He turns out to be some kind of very strange boy, only he is a "sunny child"

[Fangaro]

Following Russia's withdrawal from the UN-brokered initiative, efforts continue to revive the corridor

What is easier then? Unblocked freezing, connected SWIFT.
Nooooo, we have to pull the cat by the coki, let Russia be first...
Ugh! Efforts to revive grain mordor.

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Fangaro

What is easier then? Unblocked freezing, connected SWIFT.
Noooo, you have to pull the cat by the coca, let Russia be the first ..

They are pulling because any agreement signed by Russia with the participation of the UN has a "double bottom" and literally after signing, this bottom will come out, according to which Russia will fulfill the deal, and the West will again "throw" Russia for the third time.

[uncle_Rustam]

Be sure to "prokinet", but actually how could it be otherwise? If this character is just a patented "loh in life", then Allah himself tells him to arrange a "kidnyak".

[Yehim]

It would be great to support your position with a real link to the document

[Mavrikiy]

Turkish media: UN has prepared a new package of proposals for Russia on a grain deal

The UN can use its paper for its intended purpose. And the Turkish media may not fuss.

The Black Sea grain export initiative will become one of the main topics at the upcoming meeting Russian leader Vladimir Putin with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Main topic: Erdogan and his problems with a split personality. Castrate, give him to the EU or he will die ... And then it’s still scratching under the door of the BRICS. "Uncle Vova, pat to be accepted, your best friend"

[sadam2]

I bet the bottle that the Sultan will beat Wofka.
Otherwise he wouldn't have gone. There will be a huge scandal if it goes wrong

[Repellent]

Quote from Sadam2

I put a bottle that the Sultan will inflate Wofka

What is "inflate", specify, plz. And so I accept. What are we arguing for? I don't use blue

[sadam2]

Whether the agricultural bank will move to Swift and whether our fertilizers will be released is not for the Sultan to decide - I’m skeptical here ... and so they will give some small things to Vova and traffic will resume.
we will discuss our dil in a personal)) voice your vision plz

[Repellent]

Quote from Sadam2

Let's discuss our dil in a private message

I don't use PM.

Quote from Sadam2

some small things will be given to Vova and the traffic will resume

That is, according to you, this is

Quote from Sadam2

The Sultan will force Wofka

??

An interesting interpretation ... more specifically, be beavers

Quote from Sadam2

voice your vision plz

$100 at the rate of the Central Bank - will it work?

[sadam2]

yes the attendant is fine. your statement? will release the ships will not release or? what are we arguing about? what is your political credo?

[Repellent]

Quote from Sadam2

yes the attendant is ok

Excellent.

Quote from Sadam2

your statement?

Avotfik. Decipher yours, to intelligible details:

Quote from Sadam2

The Sultan will force Wofka

[sadam2]

okay to push already))
my statement is that the ships will go

[Repellent]

Quote from Sadam2

my statement is that the ships will go

Your statement is they will go, and nothing substantial in return. Hence my question - what exactly do you consider "essential"

[uncle_Rustam]

Well, in fact, why do you not like the position of the "Turkish Sultan"? A person works specifically for his country, he tries in the interests of his people, and not just some - exclusively for the interests of his "respected Western partners"

[rusich]

When the UN, led by Guterres, fulfills all the conditions of Russia, then we will think about whether or not to resume the grain deal

[Sid2014]

You forget about goodwill gestures!!!

[uncle_Rustam]

Yes, that's right. "goodwill gestures" is our FSE

[16112014nk]

... they promise ... to reconnect Rosselkhozbank to the SWIFT system ...
Promised 3 years waiting.
First, connect, and only then the deal.

[uncle_Rustam]

As everyone knows, the patience of the Russian people is endless and legendary

[ASM]

I really don’t understand why there’s something new to prepare if there’s already something ready. If you haven’t completed what is ready, you will receive additional requirements from us. Or did the UN include additional wishes of the Russian Federation in its package? Highly unlikely.

[bombaher]

It is correct to write about the role of the UN not as "mediation", but as "aiding" the Nazis and the world's evil in the face of NATO in order to abandon Russia.
Why believe them? Let them prove it by deeds, not by chatter. Let them just return everything first, pay forfeits, officially apologize for their wrong. Then you can start negotiating. And so this is a spit in our direction. First, they froze our money, and then they say that a part of it can be thawed, and for this we will be charged ... and just have time to bend your fingers. But our leaders call it a deal. I am laughing.

[Alien From]

Quote: Repellent

Quote: bayard

one of the leading grain traders in the Russian Federation is the American company Monsanta

Saturn no longer pour ...

I also remember this joke

[Grigory b]

First you need to make a landlocked outskirts, and then unlock this deal.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Grigory B

First you need to make a landlocked outskirts, and then unlock this deal.

Agree as much as 200%. But unfortunately, I can only give it 1+.

[uncle_Rustam]

The idea is absolutely wonderful. But the whole point is that after leaving Kherson almost a year ago. Such a procedure as cutting off Ukraine from the Black Sea and breaking through a land corridor to Transnistria has become a "futile dream" such as time travel or a flight to Alpha Centauri.

[alystan]

Another scammer who wants to continue the banquet at someone else's expense.

[rusich]

Another nonsense from the Stars and Stripes puppets. The UN and the Turks are once again trying to deceive

[Fitter65]

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This international organization promised to unfreeze the assets of companies from the Russian Federation if Moscow unblocks the Black Sea corridor

And let's first unfreeze the assets, and only then Moscow will begin to unblock the corridor. In my opinion a great option!!?

[Wratch]

What deal? A little muzzle pulled over a pile of manure? What kind of government masochism?? Well, if someone is a fan, then let him be satisfied at home. A deal is when money is paid for the goods, and not rosy promises are given. Moreover, the Turks, yeah, are the main ones on the planet. And then, someone will pathetically bleat that they again (for the one hundred and thirty-third time!!!) were deceived. Aren't you tired of eating manure?

[Zik256x]

Quote: seregatara1969

The second time to deceive on the chaff will not work!

This is not the second time, but the third and on the same rake