Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: Our army is not large enough to talk about losses of 70 thousand military personnel during the counteroffensive

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Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: Our army is not large enough to talk about losses of 70 thousand military personnel during the counteroffensive

In Ukraine, a scandal is flaring up around 70 “dropped out” during the so-called counter-offensive of the military of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which NYT journalists recently wrote about.

The Kyiv authorities are trying in every possible way to hide the facts of the colossal losses suffered by the Ukrainian army, in fact, having not achieved any results over the past almost three months of stubborn fighting.



So, when journalists asked the Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Anna Malyar to comment on the data published by the New York Times, she referred to the fact that such information is a state secret, and did not voice any figures.

In turn, the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council called the data from American journalists "inaccurate and exaggerated." During an interview with Welt, the official said that American journalists probably do not have reliable information about what is happening in Ukraine.

Our army is not large enough to talk about the loss of 70 thousand soldiers

- summed up Danilov.

It is worth noting that the argument of the secretary of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council looks, to put it mildly, weak. After all, at the beginning of the year in Ukraine it was stated that the total number of troops in the country, including trained reserves and power structures, reaches 1 million people. At the same time, the general mobilization that started at the beginning of last year did not stop for a day and is only gaining momentum, sending to the front it is even difficult to say which batch of “recruits”.

In general, against the background of reports of daily losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during their counteroffensive, the figure voiced by the Americans even looks somewhat underestimated.
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    1. +4
      August 31 2023
      And no one talks about 70! About 000 were killed and the same number were maimed!
    2. +12
      August 31 2023
      Yes, let them hide their losses, anyway, the last one to turn off the light.
    3. +11
      August 31 2023
      That is, the counteroffensive takes place not only without advancement, but also without losses? That is, there is actually no counter-offensive? That is, the Ukrainian leadership simply scammed American taxpayers for money? But then it should have been said that the counterattack was hampered by large losses. And if there are no losses, then what’s stopping you?
      1. +12
        August 31 2023
        . And if there are no losses, then what’s stopping you?
        .... tall grass... it’s clear as day... grass and shrubs.... Western experts guessed it a long time ago... especially since the grass is ripe
        1. +14
          August 31 2023
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          the more the grass is ripe

          About 48-43 years ago, at this time (end of August), we boys went and put hemp seeds into buckets. Grandma, the kingdom of heaven, pressed hemp oil from those seeds. It was used to lubricate bruises on the legs and bites from horseflies on horses and other livestock. Added to the swill of calves and lambs. Yes, it helped people “from the stomach”, and there are a lot of other things it is useful for. It is generally a panacea for burns. I remember, about Glushak in Izhak, I burned my leg, a blister the size of my fist, I smeared it with this oil for two days - not even a trace remained... The hemp itself was cut around the same time, I don’t remember the technology there, they cut it off, they cleaned the leaves, dried them, soaked them, They beat it with mallets, ruffled it, scratched it, then the granny forged hemp ropes from this fiber. People even came to her from Novosibirsk - folk crafts. Well, this was back in the 70s. And the ropes were noble... Now tell someone that I collect hemp seeds and dry the stems... I’ll immediately pull you to the article... How times change...
          1. +3
            August 31 2023
            About 48-43 years ago, at this time (end of August), we boys went and put hemp seeds into buckets. Grandma, the kingdom of heaven, pressed hemp oil from those seeds. It was used to lubricate bruises on the legs and bites from horseflies on horses and other livestock. Added to the swill of calves and lambs. Yes, it helped people “from the stomach”, and there are a lot of other things it is useful for. It is generally a panacea for burns. I remember, about Glushak in Izhak, I burned my leg, a blister the size of my fist, I smeared it with this oil for two days - not even a trace remained... The hemp itself was cut around the same time, I don’t remember the technology there, they cut it off, they cleaned the leaves, dried them, soaked them, They beat it with mallets, ruffled it, scratched it, then the granny forged hemp ropes from this fiber. People even came to her from Novosibirsk - folk crafts. Well, this was back in the 70s. And the ropes were noble... Now tell someone that I collect hemp seeds and dry the stems... I’ll immediately pull you to the article... How times change...

            we also grew rabbits in the garden, they fed it, fried and ate the seeds, and poppy grew anywhere, grandmother baked poppy pies fellow
            1. +8
              August 31 2023
              Well, yes, times have changed. Every bureaucrat (and not only) has no idea that poppy can be edible and opium, and hemp can be industrial or narcotic. Yes, and a rainbow on the wall used to mean only a rainbow, and the song about a blue carriage was just a children's song about a blue carriage, and a rooster used to be a male hen, and much more...
    4. +3
      August 31 2023
      More than a million were mobilized, but the army remained not that big.
    5. +3
      August 31 2023
      The Kyiv Star company does not think so and recently launched a campaign "send an SMS with words of gratitude" to the phone number of the "dead hero", and so only this provider put up about 400 such numbers, although later this figure was erased.
      1. 0
        August 31 2023
        The Kyiv Star company stated that it did not ask to send any SMS to any numbers.
        What is this - internet fake
    6. +2
      August 31 2023
      Another lie from the representative of the "territory of Ukraine". The overgrown cemeteries speak for themselves. How, the provider went astray when he reported about 400000 silenced “sim cards” of phones to a representative of military formations.
    7. +3
      August 31 2023
      Our army is not large enough to talk about the loss of 70 thousand soldiers
      The phrase is incorrectly constructed. Should have said - "Our army is not so big when we talk about the loss of 70 thousand soldiers."
    8. -9
      August 31 2023
      You can estimate losses based on open source data:
      1. In Ukraine, obituaries are published monthly in Vinnytsia suspilne.media%2Famp%2F542079-visimnadcat-misaciv-vijni-zagibli-geroi-vinniccini%2F&cc_key= and Poltava regions https://poltava.to/tag/1284/, if we extrapolate these data on the entire population, it turns out that over the past three months, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to 6.6 thousand killed (total 37.9 thousand). At LostArmor, they independently searched for information on the dead through the media, and the numbers turned out to be approximately the same.

      2.in Russia, data on losses according to local media and publics are collected by pro-Ukrainian resources (Mediazona, TG channel Goryushko, etc.), there are data on the losses of 6.4 thousand people in 3 months (29.9 thousand in total); These figures are for Russia within the borders as of February 23.02.2022, 10, excluding the LDPR. In the DPR, the local commissioner for human rights published data on losses for the first 4.2 months: 17 thousand killed and XNUMX thousand wounded.

      It is clear that the real losses of both sides are greater, but by percentages, and not by several times, and the ratio of personnel losses is approximately 1:1, although in the first six months of the Armed Forces of Ukraine suffered greater losses.
      1. +8
        August 31 2023
        Please tell me what kind of haibal I just read? The secretary of the "ball" leaked another secret information? According to the obituaries of Vinnitsa and Poltava, to judge the losses? So it is possible to judge the wheat harvest in Yakutia according to the data of the wheat harvest in the Krasnodar Territory.
      2. +2
        1 September 2023
        Recently I came across material on the portal of the city of Berdsk (a satellite city of Novosibirsk, 102 thousand inhabitants) with the words of their mayor that the funeral of the 38th resident of the city who died in the Northern Military District was held, of which 10 people took place in the last six months. If we take the losses of Berdsk natives as the average for Russia, then it is not difficult to extrapolate 38 people out of 102 thousand to the 140 million population of the entire Russian Federation.
    9. -1
      August 31 2023
      70 this is apparently data on those identified and buried, how many dead are lying there, no one can really say how many were burned that they cannot identify and how many heavy 300s are hoofless...
      1. -2
        August 31 2023
        In general I agree. There is only one question: why hoofless? Piglet is an artiodactyl, and the 300th hooves have not yet been cast off. Inconsistency :-)
        1. ANB
          0
          1 September 2023
          . why hoofless

          There were hooves and they ended. Some were torn off, some were cut off.
    10. 0
      2 September 2023
      There is another sign - the amount of lost equipment. It was announced about 5000 lost equipment. Apparently, this number includes pickups. Considering that the mechanization of the army involves 6-8 people per unit, even according to the most conservative estimates, the number of dead is 30-40 thousand. And with commissions there will be just those 70
    11. -1
      2 September 2023
      Well, yes, the loss of a million Bandera with the wounded and half of this of ours are of no interest to anyone, the West is only waiting for the continuation of the war for decades and will pay for it with its candy wrappers, both yours and ours ...
    12. 0
      3 September 2023
      We all just forgot, Hillary Clinton (Democrat) Electoral campaign in the USA Hillary-Trump.2017 Approximately from memory. "We Americans will occupy the lands of Ukrainians and live with the Russians in peace and good neighborliness" The question is where were they going to put the Ukrainians? Covid SVO. Americans solve strategic problems. They have Yeulstone on the way and the whole planet is busy. They are just solving the problem of moving the whole country. And we are all Russia, Russia. They are well aware that the Ukrainians will not win the war. Small tasks cover up big ones. Classic

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