"The first loss of the radar": the Western press claims the defeat of the radar of the Buk-M3 anti-aircraft complex

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"The first loss of the radar": the Western press claims the defeat of the radar of the Buk-M3 anti-aircraft complex

Tracking footage from drone and the destruction of a vehicle (artillery or missile), outwardly similar to the 9S36M fire control radar, which is part of the Buk-M3 anti-aircraft missile system.

The first loss by the Russian troops of the 9S36M radar, an integral part of the Buk-M3 air defense system, has been confirmed. Air defense plays a crucial role in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, and the loss of such expensive and rare equipment is a setback for the RF Armed Forces.

- believe in the publication Army Recognition.



The Buk-M3, also known as the Viking (in its export iteration), is a medium-range air defense system; its firing range varies from 2500 to 70 meters. SAMs are equipped with a semi-active radar homing system, with course correction by INS and radio channel. The missile warhead is a high-explosive fragmentation warhead. The system measures 000 meters long, 9,3 meters wide and 3,25 meters high. The crew consists of four people.

The 9S36M radar serves not only to detect and track targets, but also plays a key role in guiding 9R31M missiles.

Such a radar would be useful for the Russians to counter the new threat in the form of F-16 fighters, the upcoming delivery of which was announced.

- the conclusion is made in the Western press.

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    1. +61
      August 30 2023
      They wrote it as if he was our only one.
      1. +32
        August 30 2023
        Quote: aleksr2005
        They wrote it as if he was our only one.

        Not the only one, but it’s still unpleasant, and you’ll also need to pull it out and look for another replacement for this area hi
        1. +9
          August 30 2023
          "Bullshit war! The main thing is maneuvers!" The 9A317M SOU is capable of independently fighting air targets ... albeit with somewhat limited capabilities compared to the "main radar"! The 9A316M transport launchers (TPU), although devoid of a radar, can interact with "external" radars! Moreover ... the complex may include "independent" radars similar to the SOU 9A317M radars!
          1. +4
            August 30 2023
            Maybe if he knows where the target is and will be directed to the sector where the target is located. And this sector is very small.
            1. -20
              August 30 2023
              Quote: Vladimir M
              Maybe if he knows where the target is and will be directed to the sector where the target is located. And this sector is very small.

              offer to surrender?
              1. +10
                August 30 2023
                Did I write about "surrender"? I only wrote that the SOU 9A317M practically cannot work independently, only if it is aimed at a known sector of the target.
                1. -19
                  August 30 2023
                  Quote: Vladimir M
                  Did I write about "surrender"? I only wrote that the SOU 9A317M practically cannot work independently, only if it is aimed at a known sector of the target.

                  Well, oh, horror, it’s practically impossible, it’s time to give up, religion doesn’t allow you to read comments nearby?
                  Quote: Nikolaevich I
                  Although the 9A316M transport and launchers (TPU) do not have a radar, they can interact with “external” radars! Moreover...the complex may include “independent” radars similar to the SOU 9A317M radars!
                  1. 0
                    1 September 2023
                    Are these “external” radars in service? As I understand it, this radar for illuminating low-altitude targets such as cruise missiles, a surveillance radar or a launcher-based radar cannot have such qualities due to the lack of a mast. Beech missiles do not have an active radar, which does not allow the use of AWACS aircraft to guide the missile to a target, and, in principle, I have not heard about the integration of air defense systems and AWACS aircraft.
                    So all that remains is to pull up the same radar there.
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            2. +15
              August 30 2023
              Such a tracking radar should have easily detected a drone above him.
              If you didn't notice, it means it was turned off. Probably for peridislocation.
              Conclusion - before changing the location, the duty must first be intercepted by a new radar, and only then the old one must be turned off.
              1. -10
                August 30 2023
                Quote: Shurik70
                Such a tracking radar should have easily detected a drone above him.
                If you didn't notice, it means it was turned off. Probably for peridislocation.
                Conclusion - before changing the location, the duty must first be intercepted by a new radar, and only then the old one must be turned off.

                so there are probably different situations there, only for the dill to attack anything of ours is a great joy, but for ours, hammering theirs is just ordinary everyday life
                1. +6
                  August 30 2023
                  Quote: poquello
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  Such a tracking radar should have easily detected a drone above him.
                  If you didn't notice, it means it was turned off. Probably for peridislocation.
                  Conclusion - before changing the location, the duty must first be intercepted by a new radar, and only then the old one must be turned off.

                  so there are probably different situations there, only for the dill to attack anything of ours is a great joy, but for ours, hammering theirs is just ordinary everyday life

                  So why haven't weekdays beat the holiday yet?
                  After all, there are an order of magnitude more weekdays than holidays?
                  Maybe just understand the simple truth that we will have, and they also have the same everyday life ...
                  And the echelons of our equipment, which continues to go there, confirm this
                  You, site marshals and generals, who handed out plus signs to each other, understand such simple things as a sickle for something.
                  Although you do not even understand what you just wrote.
              2. +4
                August 30 2023
                Quote: Shurik70
                Such a tracking radar should have easily detected a drone above him.
                If you didn't notice, it means it was turned off. Probably for peridislocation.

                As you can see in the video, it was destroyed as soon as it entered the green area.
                1. +8
                  August 31 2023
                  Quote: ettore
                  As you can see in the video, it was destroyed as soon as it entered the green area.

                  The video just shows that he first left the old place, then arrived at the new one. And I received a gift as soon as I stopped.
                  That is, there was no backup radar either where he left or where he arrived
              3. +5
                August 31 2023
                Buka radar is not suitable for detecting low-flying and small drones. He would shoot down Bayraktar, but copters and kamikazes will not cut.
              4. +1
                August 31 2023
                Why do you think so? The drone is two orders of magnitude smaller than the aircraft. Well, even he spotted what he should do? To hit a drone with such a rocket? The length of the rocket is 5 meters, the diameter is 0.36 meters.
                1. +2
                  1 September 2023
                  Shouldn't the Pantsyri cover the Buks??
              5. 0
                1 September 2023
                Those. Is 45 degrees very little? Is that compared to 360 for a skewer?
            3. 0
              August 31 2023
              Maybe if he knows where the target is and will be directed to the sector where the target is located.

              Are you talking about SOU or ROM? The SDA has its own radar installation, albeit not at such a long distance as the radar, and the ROM will not tell you exactly, but it seems like it can fire at the SDA backlight.
        2. 0
          August 31 2023
          Our military factories are not idle now, and although the radar is a rather complex system, they are probably being produced on a continuous basis and they are in the reserve of the Ministry of Defense.
        3. +1
          August 31 2023
          Quote: leks
          Not the only one, but it's still annoying

          Considering the falseness of the Ukroorks, shooting "friendly" fire is not excluded. And so, there are many jambs, on both sides. Does not make mistakes, only those who do nothing.
        4. +3
          August 31 2023
          Unfortunately, the war is not without the dead, whatever you call it.
        5. +2
          August 31 2023
          Okay, still "iron", but the calculation, this is a disaster, tb. if also a battalion commander with a deputy battalion commander, calculation in 5 minutes. you will not prepare, "piece, exclusive" work.
          1. +1
            1 September 2023
            What kind of calculation, there is complete automation, the calculation is only involved in maintenance, transportation, etc. training is minimal, these are not pilots for you
        6. +1
          2 September 2023
          I think that they will be able to "pull out" from some rear division, for a couple or three months, until this one is restored or a new one is brought from the factory. Moreover, the launchers have their own radars, though a sector view.
      2. AAK
        +1
        August 30 2023
        Not the only one, of course, but we don’t have too many of them, it’s not clear why there is such selectivity ... Such Internet videos, in my opinion, must be sent to the General Staff so that those giants of thought somehow influence on compliance with the camouflage and safety of our air defense systems, what manual to develop - how to equip positions correctly in engineering and fire terms, how to move to spare ones, how to identify UAVs and avoid negative consequences ... here in the last ten days there are just a bunch of facts of hard losses due to for shortcomings
        1. -2
          August 31 2023
          They watch videos only in Russia24. There is no mention of losses. So think. In order to start moving, you need to understand the state of things.
        2. -1
          1 September 2023
          Such Internet videos must, in my opinion, be sent to the General Staff, so that those giants of thought at least somehow influence the observance of camouflage and the safety of our air defense systems

          Maybe, well, keep them out of business.
          If they had been doing the right thing, and not cutting worlds and sawing, then there would have been replacement Buks, and even those would have long ago been replaced by more modern and relevant air defense systems.
      3. +2
        August 31 2023
        aleksr2005 (Alexander) They wrote it as if he was our only one.
        The only, not the only, article on VO for what? There are enough "sources" on TV and on the net ...
      4. +3
        August 31 2023
        War is war. SVO is SVO. There are no losses in the NWO.
      5. 0
        6 September 2023
        Quote: aleksr2005
        They wrote it as if he was our only one.

        All this is written by enemy voices in order to sow confusion in the minds of the Russian inhabitants, and judging by the local comments in the spirit - "Everything is gone, how now to fight without this radar?" they partially achieved their goal.
    2. +4
      August 30 2023
      What was he doing there all alone?
      1. 0
        August 30 2023
        And why should they bunch up? wassat............
        1. +9
          August 30 2023
          Buk-M3 - launch and ground facilities of the complex:
          - Command post 9S510M.
          - 9S36M detection and target designation station.
          - Radar station 9S18M3.
          - Tracked self-propelled firing system (SOU) 9A317M.
          - Launcher (PU) 9A316M.
          - Transport-loading vehicle (TZM) 9T243M.

          In your opinion, does he alone fully fulfill the tasks of the entire complex?

          Where is the Buk-M3 cover from possible air threats, which should be provided by the Tor-M2, which are responsible for the security of the air situation in the near radius?
          1. +3
            August 30 2023
            Quote: alystan
            Where is the Buk-M3 cover from possible air threats, which should be provided by the Tor-M2, which are responsible for the security of the air situation in the near radius?

            Where, where... - In Karaganda!!!
            There was either no "outfit of forces" here, due to being far from the LBS. Either the "headless vulgarius" with his eternal sidekick "AVOS-Ivanovich" suddenly struck the command of the air defense brigade / division ...
            But one thing is clear: you need to understand and not allow it in the future. Guys (calculation) It's a pity for the radar. It's absurd and insulting, and most importantly not in battle ... when repelling an enemy air raid.
            AHA.
          2. +1
            August 31 2023
            Rather, not even Tor-M2, but Pantsir - S, although an improved modernized version of Pantsir - SM has already been announced, but something has not yet been seen in the war zone, apparently everything that the plant produces immediately goes to cover Moscow and the Central region of Russia, but the rest will have to wait a bit, or it is necessary to increase the production of new complexes and air defense systems in the most urgent manner.
          3. On TV, here one general complained that there were few missiles for tori. Probably didn't lie.
            1. +1
              4 September 2023
              Quote: Petrov-Alexander_1Sergeevich
              On TV, here one general complained that there were few missiles for tori. Probably didn't lie.

              Can you be more specific? Or I will put a minus too Yes
            2. 0
              6 September 2023
              Quote: Petrov-Alexander_1Sergeevich
              On TV, here one general complained that there were few missiles for tori. Probably didn't lie.

              Ukrainian general on ukroTV?
          4. -5
            1 September 2023
            Where is the cover for the Buk-M3 from possible air threats that the Tor-M2 should provide?

            So, probably, in the same place as Armata, the Coalition, Admiral Nakhimov, 1.5 million Warriors, swarms of Eagles, a replacement for the outdated Zlopark, etc. :-(
          5. 0
            2 September 2023
            Which car was hit? Otherwise, I don’t understand them externally.
    3. +11
      August 30 2023
      It is not yet a fact that this is true. Although there is a video of attacks on TOS. This is war, anything can happen. And, indeed, he is not the only one with us, although if there was a loss, then this is an extremely unpleasant episode...
      1. -6
        August 30 2023
        Do you think these are cartoons of the Dovzhenko studio? Well, perhaps.
      2. +1
        August 30 2023
        How many of these unpleasant episodes have been and how many more will be.
    4. -12
      August 30 2023
      The Russians will do it! Don't worry about us! laughing
      1. +12
        August 30 2023
        let me be curious, what exactly did you do for the NWO today, besides comments on the VO? Or are you not Russian? why comment? to hurray for any reason or without? combat crew, will they also do it? I see no reason for such a frivolous attitude ..
      2. -3
        1 September 2023
        The Russians will do it! Don't worry about us!

        Do It. Well, the Russians made 1.5 million Warriors, but where they are - the State Duma forbade discussion :-(
        The Russians did a lot of other things, but someone stole them, sawed them up, built dachas, bought non-Russian cars, and simply devoured them at feasts :-(
        This Beech has needed a replacement for a long time. The Russians can do it, but when will the traitors stop stealing the budget. :-(
        And anti-drone defense. Under the same conditions. But not in six months. And hardly during the war, because during the war, what is developed is in short supply.
        And you won’t be able to bring back the dead.
    5. -7
      August 30 2023
      And since when did the VO begin to publish the content of enemy channels demonstrating the defeat of our units in the NVO?
      1. +10
        August 30 2023
        Ever since visitors began to insistently demand visual confirmation of the event.
        If you just write, they will immediately start yelling on the site - a lie, this cannot be, proofs to the studio.
        Here's a proof, take it.
      2. +8
        August 30 2023
        Quote: kventinasd
        And since when did the VO begin to publish the content of enemy channels demonstrating the defeat of our units in the NVO?

        So VO is about combat operations and equipment, and not about promoting the correct position. And if information from our current enemy is confirmed by objective evidence, then why not consider it?
        1. +1
          August 31 2023
          VO is just about propaganda. Otherwise, you would be stunned by the number of such videos on the Internet.
      3. +2
        August 31 2023
        Since then, when the ip address moved to the USA, it is supposedly cheaper to pay for the server there.
        1. 0
          2 September 2023
          Well, yes, especially if it is paid for by the USA)) Cheaper, who would argue)
      4. -1
        1 September 2023
        And since when did the VO begin to publish the content of enemy channels demonstrating the defeat of our units in the NVO?


        Why did you come here? Looking for jingoism “I see nothing, I hear nothing except what I want”?
        Such "sources of information" abound elsewhere.
    6. +9
      August 30 2023
      Quote: kventinasd
      And since when did the VO begin to publish the content of enemy channels demonstrating the defeat of our units in the NVO?

      In the absence of a stamp, we write on the postal.
      This is payment for the lies and silence of our Russian media and officials.
      NECESSARY
      LESS
      LIE!
      1. 0
        August 30 2023
        Are you suggesting that they tell the people the truth? Do you think they are suicidal?
      2. -9
        August 30 2023
        “This is payment for the lies and silence of our Russian media and officials.
        YOU NEED TO LIE LESS!”
        Do you think that you should know everything? WHO ARE YOU?
        Who needs it - everyone knows. This is the same as during the Second World War - shouting how many of our tanks, etc., were destroyed
        1. +1
          August 30 2023
          Who am i? I am a citizen of Russia. And who are you to blame me for this?
      3. -5
        August 30 2023
        But they have the whole truth, pure as a tear. There is even criminal liability if some irresponsible dill posts the result of the flight online or some other crap that compromises the great victory. But in Russia everything is possible. You can scoop and spread the information directly from TsIPSO. And you can also refer to them, which is already there. As it was a mess, it remains
    7. +2
      August 30 2023
      As commentators have written here more than once, there are many videos on the Internet of successful strikes from both sides...
    8. 0
      August 30 2023
      It's a pity for the crew, but beech is iron, we'll do it again
    9. 0
      August 30 2023
      It seems that it was not minus a drone ...
      1. -1
        August 31 2023
        Quote: Mitchman
        It seems that it was not minus a drone ...

        So they say that Hymars.
    10. +3
      August 31 2023
      The only question is how, having a bunch of different detection systems in service, it was possible to screw up and not determine where the arrival at the airfield in Pskov was from. Even Moscow's layered defense cannot cope. It suggests that in our defense kingdom not everything is so smooth, but smooth only on paper.
      1. +2
        August 31 2023
        It is unlikely that anywhere in the world and here we have such a radar field that a relatively small UAV cannot sneak past. Yes, even large missile launchers with stealth elements are quite capable of this. In addition, given the space reconnaissance of the United States, it is quite easy to lay out the correct routes between the radar position areas. Only air patrols will help here, but how many fighters do we have free from current tasks and how many AWACS (although our AWACS can not be taken into account, it also does not see such targets at a sufficient distance, or you need an airplane for every 100 km, where can you get so many ?).
        1. +1
          August 31 2023
          "Given the space reconnaissance of the United States, it is quite easy to lay out the correct routes between the radar position areas" ///
          ----
          Now imagine what will happen when it’s not Beavers who fly along such “correct routes”,
          and NATO F-35s with their own set of dangerous bombs in the internal compartments.
          (On radars, F-35s look much - many times - smaller than Beavers and they fly much faster).
          Layered defense....
          1. +2
            August 31 2023
            NATO and the Russian Federation have prepared completely different sets of very dangerous bombs and missiles for each other, so we do not fly to them, but they fly to us, even by the right routes.
            "..and what, in the entire army of Israel, am I fighting alone?" C. Purely in theory, a massive F-35 raid is easily and from afar selected by ZGRLS, and there a team of people meeting will fly for additional reconnaissance. And its stealth is far from all-perspective, and with an increase in the parameter, the SOC of ground-based complexes will be detected on the side. Yes, a massive use of jammers and false targets is possible, but this will no longer make any sense in the very near future ...
          2. -3
            August 31 2023
            Now imagine what will happen when it’s not Beavers who fly along such “correct routes”,
            and NATO F-35s with their own set of dangerous bombs in the internal compartments.

            What's what, there will be craters. Craters on the site of the Pentagon, the Capitol, the White House, and in Tel Aviv where the Knesset meets there. laughing
      2. +2
        August 31 2023
        Quote: pexotinec
        The only question is how, having a bunch of different detection systems in service, it was possible to blow through and not determine where the arrival at the airfield in Pskov came from. Even the echeloned defense of Moscow cannot cope.

        Because no air defense guarantees 100% detection and shooting down of targets. In the last war, no more forces and means were gathered in the Moscow air defense zone, as it were, than in Britain before the Adlertag. And what? But nothing - from time to time the Germans hit key objects in the capital.
        Okay, this is our air defense. But the others were no better. Pacific Ocean, 1945. The war ends, the Yankees have excellent multi-layered air defense and complete air supremacy. But on August 12, 1945, at a temporary base in Buckner Bay (not in battle!) A Japanese torpedo bomber, unnoticed by anyone, sticks a torpedo into the side of the Pennsylvania LK. If not for the ACC base, "Pennsylvania" could lie on the ground. But it had to be towed for repairs.
        A Japanese torpedo hit the battleship in the most vulnerable place in the aft end, immediately incapacitating the rudder propeller group and causing extensive damage. Apparently, damage and violations of the strength of the aft structures caused by many months of work for wear at high speeds with vibrations and beats of the 4 propeller shaft affected - during the "accelerated" wartime repair, such damage was difficult to completely eliminate.
        The weakened structures could not withstand the explosion, and the water tightness was broken in many places at once. Soon the stern end sank into the water almost to the upper deck. However, thanks to the professional and dedicated work of the emergency crews, the flooding was soon brought under control. Two rescue tugs approached the battleship, assisting in the fight against water, which was pumped out of the turret compartment of the 4th tower through the barrels of its guns. The explosion of the torpedo and the subsequent flooding killed 20 of the crew and injured 10 more crew members.
        The next day, the battleship was towed to a shallower water area to reduce the chance of the damaged ship sinking if attacked again, and salvage efforts continued.

        Damaged by the explosion and shifted from their place, the shafts did not allow them to count on their own course, and on August 18, 1945, the battleship left Okinawa in tow of two "tandem-drawn" naval ocean rescue tugs. A third tugboat was sailing alongside, ready to provide additional assistance if needed. Slowly, at a speed of 2-7 knots, the ships headed for the Mariana Islands and arrived in Apra Bay on Guam on September 6th.
        © Battleships of the United States of America. Part II. Battleships of the types "New York", "Oklahoma" and "Pennsylvania".
      3. 0
        August 31 2023
        The problem is that the UAV can be launched from any wasteland. And no radar will save it from it. Only the area of ​​operation of electronic warfare and the zone of destruction of the missile-gun memory. "last frontier".
    11. 0
      August 31 2023
      The 9M317M missile is equipped with an inertial control system with an active radar CGS.
    12. -3
      August 31 2023
      I won’t say what our plant is. It produces blocks for different radars in three shifts. Yes. The loss of a station is damage, but our air defense is networked and not a mixed bag like the Wehrmacht. If an important section has already been replaced a long time ago
    13. +1
      August 31 2023
      Another extremely unpleasant loss. To put it mildly.
    14. -2
      August 31 2023
      Losses again, so expect a rise in the price of gasoline, etc.
    15. 0
      August 31 2023
      Maybe I'm asking a stupid question, but please excuse me. Does this long "fool" look like Buk?
    16. +1
      August 31 2023
      Just do not forget that we are at war with NATO in terms of technology, and this is not the first and not the last loss of equipment, where there are no Ukrainians from the word at all. Let me explain - the US RTR satellite detects and classifies the radiation of our radar, possibly together with ground-based RTR equipment of NATO production, locates its location, then a European-made drone controlled by the American Starlink conducts additional reconnaissance and gives a picture, while using the American GPS it gives the coordinates of the NATO howitzer (Hymars ) which fires a shot with an American guided projectile and, judging by the radio intercepts, howitzer crews are often the same mercenaries and NATO instructors ... where are the Ukrainians in this chain? Only joyfully they raise their fists up, but in everything else they simply do not exist ... well, at most the shells are reloaded from the transport vehicle into the howitzer, while the white gentlemen are resting.
    17. 0
      August 31 2023
      Quote: Shurik70
      Such a tracking radar should have easily detected a drone above him.
      If you didn't notice, it means it was turned off. Probably for peridislocation.
      Conclusion - before changing the location, the duty must first be intercepted by a new radar, and only then the old one must be turned off.

      In Syria, the barmaley also destroyed the Shell when it was not turned on.
    18. 0
      1 September 2023
      Quote: aleksr2005
      They wrote it as if he was our only one.

      I agree - not the only one, but why alone, without cover?!
    19. 0
      1 September 2023
      My condolences to the crew of the car... Now someone’s relatives will receive a funeral... May they rest in heaven...
    20. 0
      1 September 2023
      What does this Ukrainian video say. The fact that the enemy has data for target designation in objective time mode. The fact that the concept of rear in the NWO no longer exists. The fact that when the station was moved, the commander did not take measures to prevent a strike on equipment. This is a war and losses are inevitable. But the right conclusions must be drawn from the losses to prevent repetitions. Let's hope that conclusions will be drawn. Well, lastly. If the battery is armed with 9M317MA missiles, then the battery’s combat readiness has not been destroyed. due to the natural shelters of the terrain, which greatly increases the survivability of the division. Good luck to our fighters in their military work and victory will be ours.
    21. 0
      3 September 2023
      oh the first one. The fact that vsuki posted video confirmation does not mean that they have not been destroyed before. The fact that ours kept quiet it and understandably analogophthonet) We still have multiple oligophrenics to this day summing up all the supposedly called up and self-came volunteers into one, already up to 700 tons of bayonets were supposedly counted from our side in the NWO .. forgetting about the ravines .. minus the dead heroes and the wounded of which there are more than a dozen. And even the same kind of volunteers who eventually became contract soldiers .. twice counted as a volunteer .. once, and then another supposedly already arrived contract soldier, total two people) with one who came on his own) or mobilized according to the agenda) Ivanov A, A ,
    22. 0
      3 September 2023
      Believe in horses, do not respect yourself.☝️

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