The representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry called "absolute dead end" Ukraine's attempts to attack Russian territory with the help of drones

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The representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry called "absolute dead end" Ukraine's attempts to attack Russian territory with the help of drones

The actions of the Kyiv regime, which is trying to intensively attack Russian territory with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles, testify to the "agony" of Ukrainian politics. This was stated by the official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Maria Zakharova on the air of Sputnik radio.

According to Zakharova, such actions represent "an absolute dead end." It is connected with the absence of any own development.



Obviously, this agony of the Kyiv regime, stupid hatred, anger and lack of any prospects in their own development led to this terrorist activity. There are no other options, an absolute dead end

- said Zakharova on the radio Sputnik.

It should be noted that Ukraine has stepped up attacks on Russian territory with the help of an unmanned aviation. Despite the intensity of the attacks, from a military and political point of view, they are completely pointless. This, by the way, is actually recognized by the Ukrainian authorities themselves, whose representatives declare the “informational” and “psychological” meaning of such operations.

Another thing is that these attacks do not make the proper impression even on the Russian population. It seems that the Ukrainian authorities are trying to "calm down" their own citizens, demonstrating to them that Kyiv is supposedly capable of delivering strikes on Russian cities far from the Ukrainian borders, including Moscow.
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  1. +41
    August 30 2023
    Very expected... And I used to think that only mattresses have Psaki...
    1. +30
      August 30 2023
      So the authorities try not to convey such information to the population. And if the number of attacks will be daily, and 200 pieces in different directions? The loss of 2-4 transport planes is not fucking crap.
      1. -23
        August 30 2023
        In order to make 200 pieces daily, they need to be produced somewhere, transported on something and launched from somewhere. One or two every day, and even 20 times a week - this can be hidden and hidden. 200 - no longer hide, this is a large mass. And in the end, everything will be determined by resources, who will be able to do more: Russia of Geraniums or Ukraine of Beavers. For each of their Beavers, ten Geraniums will fly. And they will only make things worse for themselves. Ukraine is a masochistic country. This is the dead end.
        1. +20
          August 30 2023
          And here in general it is extreme? Poland, the Baltic States, the Czech Republic, even Australia and Canada can produce everywhere. I doubt that we can produce more than the NATO countries and their sympathizers.
          1. -11
            August 30 2023
            Quote: ASAD
            And here in general it is extreme? Poland, the Baltic States, the Czech Republic, even Australia and Canada can produce everywhere. I doubt that we can produce more than the NATO countries and their sympathizers.

            Well, well, at least not "the whole world." This is already progress. The beginning of understanding that not only Canada and Australia can make drones. And where will you launch them from, also from Australia?
            1. +3
              August 30 2023
              You can go out and launch onto bridges across the Dnieper. They definitely won't get hit.
              1. -4
                August 30 2023
                Do you know exactly the goals and objectives of the SVO? Do you know where and what to hit?
        2. +22
          August 30 2023
          "And in the end everything will be determined the resourceswho can do more: Russia Geranium or Ukraine Bobrov "///
          ----
          Resources - in the case of drones - are electronics, first of all.
          And here, it is not a fact that Russia has an advantage.
          Ukraine easily receives military electronics,
          and Russia, because of the sanctions, is having difficulty extracting for itself.
      2. +17
        August 30 2023
        And we will continue to drink beer in restaurants, and destroy our most combat-ready units and people who think and tell the truth and commanders. This is truly the modern Russian approach to warfare. We continue to pretend that everything is according to plan, not according to a cunning plan, as they like to write on the site !!!
        1. 0
          August 30 2023
          Agree completely. The problem is not recognized both from below and from above, as a result, let’s say for a military review, on the air, a comrade from the Russian outback can call (literally yesterday) to express his deep conviction that we ourselves invented Bandera, etc. .. This is a failure of agitation, undercover work , law enforcement agencies, if he is still at large.
        2. -7
          August 30 2023
          Quote: Sid2014
          And we will continue to drink beer in restaurants

          Yeah ...
          The officers of the Black Sea Fleet of the USSR ate barbecue on the Caucasian coast of the Black Sea and were surprised how cheap it was at that moment - when 6 people a day died near Stalingrad ...
          This is from the memoirs of the naval ...
          Quote: Sid2014
          destroy your most combat-ready units
          all The personnel spacecraft died by mid-autumn 1941 - without division into good and bad units ..
        3. +2
          August 30 2023
          Quote: Sid2014
          And we will continue to drink beer in restaurants, and destroy our most combat-ready units and people who think and tell the truth and commanders. This is truly the modern Russian approach to warfare. We continue to pretend that everything is according to plan, not according to a cunning plan, as they like to write on the site !!!

          Most Russians choose to drink beer in restaurants and relax in Turkey. People vote with their wallets.
          1. 0
            August 30 2023
            This is apparently due to their interests and the coincidence of these interests with the interests of the government.
    2. +16
      August 30 2023
      This is her until the fried rooster, I apologize for the drone, did not "peck".
    3. +14
      August 30 2023
      I used to think that only mattresses have Psaki...
      She has long surpassed Psaki. It seemed that the mids could not surpass their own stupidity and worthlessness, but then they knocked from the bottom.
    4. -2
      August 30 2023
      I used to think that only mattresses have Psaki...

      They now have even cooler curly hair Karine Jean-Pierre.
  2. AUL
    +43
    August 30 2023
    Silly statement. Absolutely illogical!
    1. +14
      August 30 2023
      There is such. Drones are not expensive, but air defense is really expensive, and even if there is damage that cannot be quickly repaired, the same Il-76s are recent. But she knows better, of course, she's in the position.
      1. +2
        August 30 2023
        Quote: Smoked
        Air defense is really expensive,

        There is no absolute protection. Even with the most powerful air defense system in the world, the enemy, given the time and means of reconnaissance, will always be able to detect vulnerabilities. And even if the air defense is perfect, then vulnerabilities can be created artificially with the help of agents or sabotage.
        In the case of Pskov, of course, we need to figure it out. But until Russia starts shooting down reconnaissance aircraft and NATO satellites, such strikes will be repeated. And targeted strikes on Ukrainian targets will not solve the problem either. There is too much superiority in the intelligence capabilities of NATO and Russia. We need full-fledged carpet bombing of the Ukrainian transport and information infrastructure. There will be at least some semblance of isolation of the combat area. Without observing this strategic postulate of military art, it is not possible to win any war even theoretically.
        1. +6
          August 30 2023
          Quote: Vita VKO
          Quote: Smoked
          Air defense is really expensive,

          There is no absolute protection. Even with the most powerful air defense system in the world, the enemy, given the time and means of reconnaissance, will always be able to detect vulnerabilities. And even if the air defense is perfect, then vulnerabilities can be created artificially with the help of agents or sabotage.
          In the case of Pskov, of course, we need to figure it out. But until Russia starts shooting down reconnaissance aircraft and NATO satellites, such strikes will be repeated. And targeted strikes on Ukrainian targets will not solve the problem either. There is too much superiority in the intelligence capabilities of NATO and Russia. We need full-fledged carpet bombing of the Ukrainian transport and information infrastructure. There will be at least some semblance of isolation of the combat area. Without observing this strategic postulate of military art, it is not possible to win any war even theoretically.

          But this postulate will drag us into direct war with NATO. We can’t cope with yesterday’s million villagers, but are you going to connect 4 million professional NATO soldiers to this celebration of life?
          1. -3
            August 30 2023
            Quote from Escariot
            will drag us into a direct war with NATO

            Those. do you think it’s better to fight with NATO crookedly with your hands tied so that your white gloves don’t get dirty?
            This only happens in fairy tales. Haven't you heard enough fairy tales about shitocracy?
            1. +3
              August 30 2023
              Quote: Vita VKO
              Quote from Escariot
              will drag us into a direct war with NATO

              Those. do you think it’s better to fight with NATO crookedly with your hands tied so that your white gloves don’t get dirty?
              This only happens in fairy tales. Haven't you heard enough fairy tales about shitocracy?

              Naturally! In a conventional war, Russia has no chance, but in a nuclear one .... you should not rush to Paradise.
      2. +6
        August 30 2023
        Quote: Smoked
        There is such. Drones are not expensive, but air defense is really expensive, and even if there is damage that cannot be quickly repaired, the same Il-76s are recent.

        And here I am looking at this whole story and remembering myself when I was angry at their grandiose and high-cost construction projects and the holding of the Olympic Games and the World Cup in football, where tens of billions of dollars swelled. At a time when our Air Force kept expensive aircraft in open parking lots to all winds and threats. am
        On these it was possible to set up hangars for storage and maintenance of equipment in comfortable conditions. Now this mess has come out in all its glory.
        1. +2
          August 30 2023
          Quote: Askold65
          Quote: Smoked
          There is such. Drones are not expensive, but air defense is really expensive, and even if there is damage that cannot be quickly repaired, the same Il-76s are recent.

          And here I am looking at this whole story and remembering myself when I was angry at their grandiose and high-cost construction projects and the holding of the Olympic Games and the World Cup in football, where tens of billions of dollars swelled. At a time when our Air Force kept expensive aircraft in open parking lots to all winds and threats. am
          On these it was possible to set up hangars for storage and maintenance of equipment in comfortable conditions. Now this mess has come out in all its glory.

          Even before the NMD, our country spent 4% of GDP on defense - this is twice as much as it should be according to NATO standards. Another thing is how this money was disposed of in the military department. So it's ridiculous to blame the Olympics.
          1. 0
            August 30 2023
            Quote from Escariot
            Even before the NMD, our country spent 4% of GDP on defense - this is twice as much as it should be according to NATO standards. Another thing is how this money was disposed of in the military department. So it's ridiculous to blame the Olympics.

            How does our country's spending on defense relate to NATO standards? belay
            In the military department, despite such "huge" receipts of money, they could not even simply re-equip the Armed Forces with modern equipment. But this is not even the point, the military department simply does not have the physical ability to attract the necessary construction capacities and, accordingly, additional resources for the implementation of such a large-scale project. These resources, our state has threatened for image projects, instead of hiding our aviation in concrete as soon as possible. And now no one is laughing anymore.
    2. +6
      August 30 2023
      "The Russian Defense Ministry reports an attempt by Ukrainian militants to strike targets in the Bryansk region with the help of drones, one of which was destroyed."
      ************************************************** **********************************************
      From a strategic point of view, however, she is absolutely right...

      For, the achievement of the ultimate goal of the NWO and the irreversible solution of the two main tasks of the NWO, these "(D) UAV-" attacks "of the Kyiv Bandero-Natsiks, will not affect in any way ...

      Just as they did not affect the outcome of the Second World War, the intensively increasing shelling of the islanders by the Nazis, at the end of 1944 and the beginning of 1945, by the "improved" OTR V-2 ...

      But about Bryansk (and not Pskov), where it seems, on a raid (D) UAV, they "got" one of the MAIN (very few so far in Russia ...) Russian factories for the production of microelectronic components, I, on this portal already three or four times, over the past 4 months, he warned the Russians about the high probability of delivering such strikes, EXACTLY ON SUCH enterprises.

      The significance of which for the Russian defense industry is much higher than the significance of the Pskov airfield. And the need for PRIORITY protection of such enterprises with an "umbrella" of layered air defense / missile defense ...

      It seems, again, Alas, "overslept" ...

      It remains to be hoped that the main divisions of the Bryansk plant, in the first place - the "planar", were not affected ...
      1. -2
        August 30 2023
        The British are behind this systemic attack, the Ukrainians acted as a lightning rod here! And they hit on very specific targets on our territory. The airfield of the 76th division of the Airborne Forces, a very important plant in Bryansk, which makes microelectronics, also flew to Ryazan, you can guess where exactly, as well as Sevastopol, the Oryol region, Ruza, and even this is not the whole list.
        I already wrote this morning that the results of our attacks on the Khokhol are not entirely clear in most cases, but the enemy is working precisely and quite successfully, especially considering his capabilities and ours ...
        But, the main problem is that we overslept again in Bryansk and Pskov.
        Ukrainians write that they worked in Pskov from the territory of third countries (consider the Baltic states), in fact, this is drawing the Labuses into the war, which the same British would very much like ...
      2. +1
        August 30 2023
        Quote: ABC-schütze
        "The Russian Defense Ministry reports an attempt by Ukrainian militants to strike targets in the Bryansk region with the help of drones, one of which was destroyed."
        ************************************************** **********************************************
        From a strategic point of view, however, she is absolutely right...

        For, the achievement of the ultimate goal of the NWO and the irreversible solution of the two main tasks of the NWO, these "(D) UAV-" attacks "of the Kyiv Bandero-Natsiks, will not affect in any way ...

        Just as they did not affect the outcome of the Second World War, the intensively increasing shelling of the islanders by the Nazis, at the end of 1944 and the beginning of 1945, by the "improved" OTR V-2 ...

        But about Bryansk (and not Pskov), where it seems, on a raid (D) UAV, they "got" one of the MAIN (very few so far in Russia ...) Russian factories for the production of microelectronic components, I, on this portal already three or four times, over the past 4 months, he warned the Russians about the high probability of delivering such strikes, EXACTLY ON SUCH enterprises.

        The significance of which for the Russian defense industry is much higher than the significance of the Pskov airfield. And the need for PRIORITY protection of such enterprises with an "umbrella" of layered air defense / missile defense ...

        It seems, again, Alas, "overslept" ...

        It remains to be hoped that the main divisions of the Bryansk plant, in the first place - the "planar", were not affected ...

        It's just that the Nazis weren't able to bomb the infrastructure of Great Britain, but the Anglo-Saxons were able to. Axis production capacity in 44 began to really suffer
        1. -2
          August 30 2023
          Quote from Escariot
          It's just that the Nazis weren't able to bomb the infrastructure of Great Britain, but the Anglo-Saxons were able to. Axis production capacity in 44 began to really suffer

          And Speer wrote in 1945 that the industry suffered only 7% belay on average from previous production volumes - excluding fuel production.
          1. +1
            August 30 2023
            Quote: your1970
            Quote from Escariot
            It's just that the Nazis weren't able to bomb the infrastructure of Great Britain, but the Anglo-Saxons were able to. Axis production capacity in 44 began to really suffer

            And Speer wrote in 1945 that the industry suffered only 7% belay on average from previous production volumes - excluding fuel production.

            However, there were very serious problems with fuel. The same Speer said that after the bombing of '44, Silesia became the main supplier of coal instead of the Ruhr. Well, the Allies also bombed not just industry, but its bottlenecks in the form of fuel production or bearings.
            1. 0
              August 30 2023
              Quote from Escariot
              Quote: your1970
              Quote from Escariot
              It's just that the Nazis weren't able to bomb the infrastructure of Great Britain, but the Anglo-Saxons were able to. Axis production capacity in 44 began to really suffer

              And Speer wrote in 1945 that the industry suffered only 7% belay on average from the previous volumes of production - excluding fuel production.

              However, there were very serious problems with fuel. The same Speer said that after the bombings of 44, Silesia became the main supplier of coal instead of the Ruhr. Well, and the allies bombed not just industry, but its bottlenecks in type of fuel production or bearings.

              slow
              Quote: your1970
              - with the exception of fuel production.
  3. +27
    August 30 2023
    Marina, sometimes, like this time, for example, it’s better for you to remain silent! Burnt combat aircraft at an unguarded strategic facility against your "senseless strike"? Lavrov frowns his eyebrows menacingly or terribly menacingly? You need to drive them and you all with a pissing rag, parasites and demagogy!
    1. +8
      August 30 2023
      Only here we must not forget that for ukrov these UAVs can be produced in neighboring countries. Let's say Poles and Balts, Czechs, Slovaks, etc., etc. in each of 10-20 pieces per month, this is the minimum I write, and 100-200 pieces per month will come out. And now the question is what ours can do with it, but nothing. Every month there will be more attacks. Trends see how many times UAVs have been attacked over the past three months compared to early spring and winter, not to mention last fall.
      1. +10
        August 30 2023
        Yeah ... A year and a half ago, no one thought that demilitarization meant something like this ... And about denazification, when information began to leak out about some ... specific individuals and units fighting on our side, such as the Rusichi DShRG , it became more incomprehensible: outright neo-Nazis actively participating in the denazification of Ukraine?! Isn't that surreal...
        1. +2
          August 30 2023
          DShRG "Rusichi", it became more incomprehensible: frank neo-Nazis actively participating in the denazification of Ukraine?! Isn't that surreal...

          What can be said about "Rusich" is much more honest than all these opportunists from the military-political leadership and those who broadcast to us from the Foreign Ministry and various TV shows.
          By the way, they don’t write that they are supporters of your race, etc., etc., but the fact that they want justice for Russians and Russia as a whole is yes, so that these people are considered and respected, and not wipe their feet on it. Now, looking at what is happening in the country against the backdrop of migrants and what is happening with this NWO, it is difficult to disagree with them that sooner or later it will flare up so that it will not seem to anyone.
          1. +3
            August 30 2023
            I won’t argue with this, but then an attempt to “sell” Ukrainians the idea of ​​​​reunification with a country in which, as you write, looks even stranger
            "they want justice for the Russians and Russia as a whole, yes, so that these people are considered and respected, and not wipe their feet on it

            And they, with enthusiasm, in a single impulse, should abandon Ukrainianism and recognize themselves as Russians? The very ones about which in Russia they "wipe their feet"? Seeing that Chechens, convicts and ... special patriots from "Rusich" and similar communities, whose members love to ink tattoos in the form of a swastika, came to them to fight for the "Russian world"? Maybe they just don't want to be part of what "sooner or later will flare up"? And you can understand them.
            1. 0
              August 30 2023
              No, you did not understand! I just wanted to say that Rusich does not want to make everyone Russian, so that there is one nation and one nation is all - this is Nazism in its purest form. In our state, this is hardly possible.
              That's what you took in quotes is not what you mean. Swastika swastika strife. The swastika is on the flags of the regions.
              If, in your opinion, you can’t look at the rainbow and walk under it, it can be attributed to LGBT propaganda hi
      2. -4
        August 30 2023
        The trend is simple: an exchange of drone strikes. And the more will fly in from there, the several times more will fly there. This is a dead end and Ukrainian masochism.
        1. +4
          August 30 2023
          Is it only Ukrainian? So who started it anyway?
          1. -1
            August 30 2023
            Like who? Ukraine started. Even nine years ago. Fascist bandits came to power and started a war against the citizens of their state, who refused to obey them.
            1. +1
              August 30 2023
              Quote: Pavel73
              Like who? Ukraine started. Even nine years ago. Fascist bandits came to power and started a war against the citizens of their state, who refused to obey them.

              Previously, these bandits fought against their own citizens, and now they are fighting against the citizens of Russia. So from what moment did they start fighting against the citizens of Russia?
              1. -1
                August 30 2023
                From the very moment when Ukrainian troops were thrown against the inhabitants of Donbass, who expressed a desire to join Russia. That is, from April 7, 2014, when Turchynov announced on TV about "anti-terrorist measures" in the Donbass.
                1. 0
                  August 30 2023
                  Let's formulate the question in a different way: what exactly did the Nazi authorities of Ukraine do in the Donbass from what had not happened in Chechnya a decade and a half before?
                  And do not forget that the active movement began after the Girkin-Strelkov team came to the Donbass from Russia, whose connection with the FSB no one denies. Yes, the same one who is now in a Russian pre-trial detention center on charges of extremism. The surrealism of the situation lies in the fact that he is accused of extremism by both sides of the conflict, only in different episodes.
                  So the question is - who started it and why, it is not very simple ... And for some reason, even the union of the Russian Federation, Belarus, did not recognize the reunification of Crimea with Russia. By the way, we get a funny union state in which one part does not recognize the borders of the territory of the other part as legal, don't you think?
    2. +13
      August 30 2023
      And what to protect??? Most likely, all air defense is pulled into the NVO zone, and to cover Moscow and Crimea! And the attacks on our country will only increase! We are on the defensive. Our border villages have already been forgotten! And remember February 2022. You could imagine this. Probably not, along with our leadership. WE HAVE THE SECOND ARMY OF THE WORLD (on paper), as it turned out.
    3. -6
      August 30 2023
      Quote: Thrifty
      Burnt combat aircraft at an unguarded strategic facility for your "senseless strike"?

      If you proceed from Your logic - NGSH KA Zhukov G.K. it was necessary to impale the number of commercials on 01.07.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX - for the planes burned at the airfields and the entire Belarus profaned ..
      1. +5
        August 30 2023
        Quote: your1970
        Based on your logic - NGSH KA Zhukov G.K., it was necessary to impale the number of commercials on 01.07.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX - for the planes burned at the airfields and the entire Belarus profaned ..

        and if we proceed from yours, how did the CBO start only 2 weeks ago? and in opponents the same enemy in strength?
        1. -5
          August 30 2023
          Quote: 2 level advisor
          Quote: your1970
          Based on your logic - NGSH KA Zhukov G.K., it was necessary to impale the number of commercials on 01.07.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX - for the planes burned at the airfields and the entire Belarus profaned ..

          and if we proceed from yours, how did the CBO start only 2 weeks ago? and in opponents the same enemy in strength?

          The Wehrmacht lost in 1941 about 200 people (out of several million) - now in a year and a half we have destroyed at least 000 out of 200 Armed Forces of Ukraine.
          Spacecraft losses in 1941 at least 1 million common losses - now we have no more than 50-70 by any estimate.
          By the end of 1941, the spacecraft had lost most of the European USSR - now we have occupied a fairly large enemy territory (even without taking into account the LDNR).
          Moreover, the current ones are in much more severe conditions than in 1941 - then no one discussed "is it possible to hit the city - if there are civilians there?". Due to military necessity, they simply smashed it ...
          Well, a piquant nuance - in the people's native USSR, according to the Criminal Code of 1926, for almost all military crimes in the event of war - the Navy looms.

          This in aggregate means that the current "bad generals" are at least no worse than those of that time.
          1. +3
            August 30 2023
            By the end of 1941, the spacecraft had lost most of the European USSR - now we have occupied a fairly large enemy territory (even without taking into account the LDNR).

            Just by the way: Germany capitulated in 1918, when not a single enemy soldier crossed the borders of the country, on the contrary, the Reich retained considerable occupied territories.
      2. +4
        August 30 2023
        Quote: your1970
        Quote: Thrifty
        Burnt combat aircraft at an unguarded strategic facility for your "senseless strike"?

        If you proceed from Your logic - NGSH KA Zhukov G.K. it was necessary to impale the number of commercials on 01.07.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX - for the planes burned at the airfields and the entire Belarus profaned ..

        Again, a comparison with the Great Patriotic War, where there was a different era and other opportunities. Stop this is not funny, but stupid. If you are already comparing, then cite Pavlov as an example then a number of other military leaders who, for their mistakes at the beginning of the war, went to the tribunal, and later received a bullet or went to the gulag. You can now imagine that this is the case in our time. Except for the fact that all commanders, in any case, receive an extraordinary title or star of the hero of Russia?
        1. -2
          August 30 2023
          Quote: leks
          If you are already comparing, then cite as an example Pavlov and a number of other military leaders who, for their mistakes at the beginning of the war, were court-martialed, and later received a bullet or went to the gulag.

          Before the war, there were 1400 generals and admirals in the spacecraft; during the war, about 4 were assigned.
          Shot under various charges during the war - 56 people.
          Less than 1% - for all the wild horror of the beginning of the war. When the Wehrmacht reached Moscow in 4 months....
          The spacecraft lost 8 million - even if all these 56 were shot for failures and losses - roughly 142 losses per general.
          Who from the current had such losses?
          Did any of the current ones mediocrely screw up the ENTIRE Ukraine or give up Crimea?
          Zhukov carried out mobilization under the guise of “May training camps,” and the current ones are clamped in the grip of “Conscripts are bad—the population will be against it.” Under Zhukov, no one was interested in the mood of the population at all - agenda and forward! And whoever is dissatisfied - the Criminal Code of 1926 is nearby....

          And the most anecdotal thing is that Zhukov himself admits in his memoirs that he “was not ready for war, he had to study a lot, comprehend the science of winning.”
          And the current right to study is denied ...
          Zhukov probably trained on cats
          1. +4
            August 30 2023
            Quote: your1970
            Quote: leks
            If you are already comparing, then cite as an example Pavlov and a number of other military leaders who, for their mistakes at the beginning of the war, were court-martialed, and later received a bullet or went to the gulag.

            Before the war, there were 1400 generals and admirals in the spacecraft; during the war, about 4 were assigned.
            Shot under various charges during the war - 56 people.
            Less than 1% - for all the wild horror of the beginning of the war. When the Wehrmacht reached Moscow in 4 months....
            The spacecraft lost 8 million - even if all these 56 were shot for failures and losses - roughly 142 losses per general.
            Who from the current had such losses?
            Did any of the current ones mediocrely screw up the ENTIRE Ukraine or give up Crimea?
            Zhukov carried out mobilization under the guise of “May training camps,” and the current ones are clamped in the grip of “Conscripts are bad—the population will be against it.” Under Zhukov, no one was interested in the mood of the population at all - agenda and forward! And whoever is dissatisfied - the Criminal Code of 1926 is nearby....

            And the most anecdotal thing is that Zhukov himself admits in his memoirs that he “was not ready for war, he had to study a lot, comprehend the science of winning.”
            And the current right to study is denied ...
            Zhukov probably trained on cats

            Only the generals went under the tribunal!?
            So it turns out that it is impossible to compare WWII and NWO. It turns out that you use comparisons as it suits you, here you can compare, but here you can’t. As for "ineptly profukal" it's in vain that you just need to see what and how it was. The fact that there is clearly someone to send to the tribunal, and then to the zone for 25 years. And you have one excuse for the military-political leadership. You just don’t need to write that you don’t justify, reading your text above, it says in black and white that you are doing justification, comparing what, in theory, cannot be compared, in general, you are trying to pull an owl on the globe.
            1. 0
              August 30 2023
              Quote: leks
              As for "ineptly profukal" it's in vain that you just need to see what and how it was. The fact that there is clearly someone to send to the tribunal, and then to the zone for 25 years.

              slow
              -if there NOW Who should have been sent to court for losses of 50-70 in a year and a half? Who should have been sent to court for losses?just near Minsk in 10 days in 200 total losses?
              10 day losses are 3 times more than a year and a half.
              Take away the names now - and you will agree that those numbers look much scarier ...
          2. +4
            August 30 2023
            56 people were shot under various articles for the war.
            Less than 1% - for all the wild horror of the beginning of the war. When the Wehrmacht reached Moscow in 4 months ....

            Now there are about 1000 generals in Russia. 1% is 10 people. Where can I get acquainted with the list, if not shot (now the time seems to be more humane), then at least seriously punished for failures? Surovikin with the company is very different.
            And the most anecdotal thing is that Zhukov himself admits in his memoirs that he “was not ready for war, he had to study a lot, comprehend the science of winning.”
            And the current right to study is denied ...
            Zhukov probably trained on cats

            On June 22, 1941, the Wehrmacht crossed the borders of the USSR without declaring war. You can justify yourself for being unprepared for the war that your opponent started, but when you yourself chose the time and place... And be unprepared?! So maybe you should prepare first?
            And Zhukov, other commanders of that time had to learn to resist the best army of that time, hardened and trained by two years of war. Are you comparing the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the Wehrmacht? And where and when did they manage to get such an experience? Yes, and there are much fewer people in the country now than in 1941, if the current ones study "not on cats" as well as then, then there may simply not be enough people.
            1. 0
              August 30 2023
              Quote: UAZ 452
              And Zhukov, other commanders of that time had to learn to resist the best army of that time, hardened and trained by two years of war.
              - this is when in Europe they had more losses in road accidents - than combat losses?
              Quote: UAZ 452
              Where can you get acquainted with the list, if not shot (now the time seems to be more humane), then at least seriously punished for failures?
              -God bless him since 1941...
              Who was punished for 1942? For 1943? 1944?
              Who was shot in the Red Army for abandoned Crimea?
              One can understand when suddenly in 1941 - but when suddenly in March 1945(!!!!) near Balaton our losses defenders [/ b] higher than the losses [b] of the attacker Wehrmacht - who made a hole in the head for this from the generals ????
              Quote: UAZ 452
              So maybe you should prepare first?
      3. -10
        August 30 2023
        Your 1970, don't be fooled, these are TsIPSOshniks! They can be unmistakably recognized even by the instant termination of the discussion, as soon as it becomes clear to them that there is nothing for them to catch here.
  4. +22
    August 30 2023
    Yeah .. Uma chamber .. People are dying, equipment is being destroyed .. Yes, "dead end" .. A branch, or whoever voices it
    1. +8
      August 30 2023
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      Yeah .. Uma chamber .. People are dying, equipment is being destroyed .. Yes, "dead end" .. A branch, or whoever voices it

      Yeah. I wonder what she meant by "properly impressing the population." I take it we're not properly impressed here. You can ignore :)
  5. +15
    August 30 2023
    8 years and a year and a half of complaints and dead-end statements from the Foreign Ministry. Your task is to run around the world with a wet broom, to look for allies.
    1. +21
      August 30 2023
      And to whom did such an impotent ally surrender? Well, except perhaps to beg for a non-repayable loan, and to fuck from energy and minerals ..
      1. -5
        August 30 2023
        For the eternal limitrophes, he did not give up, for those who follow the "analysis" the union is the only chance, you see, and in the Kremlin the eggs will grow under the effect of synergy.
  6. +16
    August 30 2023
    even on the Russian population, these attacks do not make the proper impression

    Yes, our population considers this commonplace for a long time.
    4 burned IL-76 is how much money? and how much has the military potential decreased?
    The population sees everything and opupevaet from what is happening. He (the population) still lives here in the Russian Federation, unlike officials, politicians and oligarchs, who will be the first to dump where they beat us from.
    1. +3
      August 30 2023
      These will not fall down, at best - with great expenses for themselves and long repentances about the floor. That is the mystery of what is happening.
      1. +2
        August 30 2023
        And if they were given the task of stirring up a sleepy, well-fed kingdom (first of all, the "old" EU countries), posing as a cocky bad boy, and at the same time thinning out the population of the two Slavic countries, which is of little use to the world establishment? After all, if we evaluate what is happening in this vein, then everything is going more than successfully: the population of Western countries, which only yesterday demanded a reduction in military spending, today does not object to their increase, or even demands it itself. The war in the mass psychology of the local population is shifting from the category of the impossible to the undesirable, and already even to the permissible. Perhaps the two Vladimirs are simply carrying out one common task? Well, it’s easier to use most of the “elite” of the two countries in the dark, as well as the population, whose task is to grind each other and scare the Western inhabitants with pictures of blood, death and destruction, and the frightened layman is very accommodating and agrees to everything that they promise him for the sake of security .
    2. -12
      August 30 2023
      Stop crying with emotions...

      The Russian air defense / missile defense system, as a whole, during the NMD, protects Russian territory and the MAJOR MASS of key objects from raids, at an assessment of at least - "four with a PLUS" ... And, AT LEAST, more efficiently than this TODAY could do, the air defense / missile defense system of ANY OTHER country in MIIREN, incl. and a relic of NATO ...

      And the population of Russia, by the way, understands this very well. And "100% guarantees" can "expect" (and even more so - "demand" ...) demagogues and tram talkers, and other "CIPSO-ta"
      1. +3
        August 30 2023
        Quote: ABC-schütze
        Stop crying with emotions...

        The Russian air defense / missile defense system, as a whole, during the NMD, protects Russian territory and the MAJOR MASS of key objects from raids, at an assessment of at least - "four with a PLUS" ... And, AT LEAST, more efficiently than this TODAY could do, the air defense / missile defense system of ANY OTHER country in MIIREN, incl. and a relic of NATO ...

        And the population of Russia, by the way, understands this very well. And "100% guarantees" can "expect" (and even more so - "demand" ...) demagogues and tram talkers, and other "CIPSO-ta"

        The enemy is exchanging cheap UAVs for very expensive aircraft and ships. Of course, our air defense shoots down the vast majority of targets, but even if one out of 20 UAVs reaches the target, then such an exchange plays into the enemy’s hands. And these are just flowers for now. If tomorrow the enemy launches massive attacks on the energy structure and refineries, then to hell with all the saints.
        1. -1
          August 30 2023
          Well, it's just a set of ordinary and already set on edge "stamps" ... What, where, where, but on the VO portal, has long been out of place ...

          Firstly, the (D) UAVs of the Kyiv Bandero-Natsiks are not at all "penny" ...

          Secondly, if we already "estimate" the REAL costs of the Kiev Bandero-Natsiks and the damage caused by SINGLE, "leaked" (D) UAVs of the enemy to the DEFENSE and INDUSTRIAL AND RAW MATERIALS potential of the Armed Forces of Russia and Russia, in general, then these costs of the Kiev Bandera-Natsiks include not only INDIVIDUAL (D) UAVs destroyed as a result of INDIVIDUAL and SPORADIC "breakthroughs", allegedly "penny" (D) UAVs, but also the costs of the ENTIRE PREPARATION of the strike. Those. and the cost of MANY DOZENS OF HOURS OF PRELIMINARY work of satellite constellations of the NATO relic and ALL types of its reconnaissance (on air, surface carriers and on the "ground" - from electronic, specific, undercover, etc.). And it is strange that on the VO portal they somehow "forget" about this, issuing comments on "hot emotions" ...

          By the way, the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet "Moskva" received irreversible damage not at all as a result of a (D) UAV raid, but as a result of a missile attack. And even then, it seems, because they didn’t “relax” by the time, and not because they “couldn’t” intercept and destroy ... And the (D) UAV strike at AB Engels “passed” for the same reason. This time ... And wore, SINGLE character, These are two ...

          And I somehow can’t remember anything “greater” from the SPORADIC successes of the Kiev Bandera-Nazis, in terms of damaging the MILITARY potential of the Russian Armed Forces ... Well, here’s another strike at a plant for the production of microelectronic components
      2. -11
        August 30 2023
        Quote: ABC-schütze
        Stop crying with emotions...

        The Russian air defense / missile defense system, in general, during the NWO, protects Russian territory
        ...
        And "100% guarantees" can "expect" (and even more so - "demand" ...) demagogues and tram talkers, and other "CIPSO-ta"
        Yes, it’s mostly TsIPSOshniks who are crying here. They're trying to create panic.
        1. 0
          August 30 2023
          Well, in the "mostly", this is, of course, too much. But "emotional" comments with a clear excess.

          What is a FACT is the underestimation by big bosses "in uniform and stripes" of the importance of enterprises - manufacturers of REAL microelectronics - diodes, transistors, microcircuits of all kinds, types and degrees of integration, for the successful and CONTINUOUS operation of military-industrial complex enterprises producing the so-called. "end products" of all kinds...

          Have you ever seen the Ministry of Defense or any of its deputies visit such enterprises with "inspections" and "under the lenses"? ... Personally, I have NEVER seen ...

          But enterprises that produce "tanks - planes", and "missiles - ships" or radar stations of all kinds, they visit regularly. For "it" is "more clear" to them, as a military man ...

          Otsel and "instinctive" alignment by them of "priorities" of the significance of enterprises. Incl. and for their air defense / missile defense cover from air attack weapons.

          Without understanding that if a microelectronics enterprise is really "damaged", NOT A ONE manufacturer of the so-called. "Final" products will not be able to release anything. And the whole, subsequent, "chain" will "get up" ...

          And it seems that there are no real subjects, with the proper level of influence, in the corridors of power, in order to IRREVERSIBLY "lobby" this "understanding" ...
    3. -7
      August 30 2023
      ".. from where they beat us."
      ************************************************** **********************************************
      Yes, and specify, if it doesn’t make it difficult, where exactly are you being beaten from? .. And by whom? ..
  7. +12
    August 30 2023
    Maybe "absolute dead end" is the statements of this "talking head" of the Foreign Ministry?
  8. +16
    August 30 2023
    Yes, it’s very deadlocked, 2 Il-76s were destroyed tonight, 2 more Il-76s were damaged, a fuel depot was destroyed.
  9. +10
    August 30 2023
    If Alexander had a speaker:
    - The Council in Fili decided to surrender Moscow because the enemy's army is in agony.
    1. +3
      August 30 2023
      Found a video of burning IL-76:
      https://vk.com/video-204430235_456245695
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    1. +6
      August 30 2023
      After comparing Stalin with Hitler (Twitter 2016, in my opinion), it is difficult to doubt her abilities. There is already a question about the abilities of the authorities, which keeps incredibly smart workers.
  11. +16
    August 30 2023
    That's really a dead end, so it is to continue to take the people for idiots! Go buy at least an airplane wing with your performance fees... Or will you keep the right again?...
  12. +9
    August 30 2023
    Yes, of course, you have to say something. In the end, our elite is reliably "covered". And everyone else under the blows of drones should "keep optimistic." Especially the residents of the border areas.
  13. +8
    August 30 2023
    A dead end is not a dead end, but damage was caused for 25 billion rubles, is this not a struggle for attrition?
  14. +2
    August 30 2023
    Nothing.
    We rivet new planes.
    So right?!
    1. +2
      August 30 2023
      By itself. Inflation of money and prices is for suckers.
      1. +1
        August 30 2023
        And what does inflation and the construction of aircraft have to do with it? It is not the construction of aircraft that creates inflation (there are very few imported components in the IL-76, their cost in the total price of an aircraft is scanty), but exchange speculation and the massive withdrawal of money abroad.
  15. +12
    August 30 2023
    She bites herself by the tail, out of impotence and there is nothing to do but childish excuses ... Bebe be
  16. +16
    August 30 2023
    Four Il-76s! FOUR!!! Plus a broken airfield, damaged infrastructure, and most importantly, the awareness of the population about the lack of their security and protection. Is this a "senseless" attack??? Who do they take us for?
    1. +6
      August 30 2023
      *Who do they take us for?*
      they still believe in the power of tv mantras and what *people eat*.
      just look at the non-guarantor and the reindeer herder who for years... read out appeals to the electorate from a piece of paper. in the style of *eat what they give you*.
      they don’t even have anything to say on their own, and they don’t want to.
  17. +1
    August 30 2023
    Obviously, this agony of the Kyiv regime, stupid hatred, anger and lack of any prospects in their own development led to this terrorist activity. There are no other options, an absolute dead end

    why dead end? they endure nightmares themselves and everything else is logical, the rears are nightmares! there would be a dead end if the Russian Federation used nuclear weapons, yes, there is no city for one such raid! and so logically they act, they scare them, they destroy the states of the United States and Europe, the goals did not change the victory on the battlefield! or Russian troops are near Kyiv and will soon storm it????????? Well, either I'm wrong!
  18. +12
    August 30 2023
    Zakharova decided to compete with Psaki in terms of stupidity?
    Zakharova has every chance to be the first ...
  19. +4
    August 30 2023
    The RF does not have a continuous radar field. The last school for officers of the RT troops was closed in 2011. And yes, there is no technology.
  20. +15
    August 30 2023
    Did Masha ridicule the Ukrainian drones that destroyed four IL-76s and a full fuel depot in Pskov? Well then it's all right!
    PS We laughed at the Ukrainians, whose president is made up of professional clowns. And we seem to have almost all the leadership - amateur clowns. And even in this without special talents.
  21. +10
    August 30 2023
    Tell Masha that the Pskov airborne division has become a simple infantry, 4 IL 76 must be able to ruin it.
    1. +3
      August 30 2023
      In fact, the Airborne Forces became infantry units after February 22 ...
  22. +3
    August 30 2023
    The representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry called "absolute dead end" Ukraine's attempts to attack Russian territory with the help of drones
    Dead end, she, dead end ... but there are losses, and this threat must be leveled by all available means.
  23. +10
    August 30 2023
    Absolute dead end is the current Russian government with its Zakharovs and Manturovs
    1. -12
      August 30 2023
      Wow, how many TsIPSO workers gathered at VO ... The news is just a balm for the soul. I appeal to those who are not TsIPSOshnik - do not be fooled. Nothing will work for them.
      1. +8
        August 30 2023
        Quote: Pavel73
        Wow, how many TsIPSOshnikov gathered at VO ...

        judging by the posts of the TsIPSOshnik, it’s you Pavel, and what’s worse, not realizing this ..
        Quote: Pavel73
        The news is just a balm for the soul.

        with such your support of the "party course" - more harm than good ..
  24. +7
    August 30 2023
    Yes, stupidity brings results.
  25. +8
    August 30 2023
    Obviously, this agony of the Kyiv regime,

    Our dill destroy iconic figures, and we are only slaves. They strike at the strategic component, and we only draw red lines. They destroy a strategic facility and make it unusable for several months, and we turn off their lights for several hours. They create sabotage and terrorist cells on our territory, and we can watch with mute reproach how Russia returns war criminals to the divers. We cannot even protect the border area, and they are ready to blow up even a nuclear power plant. Maybe this is our problem, and not dill, which will be kept even in a state of decomposition? And in our country, even obvious traitors want to provide comfortable living abroad, despite the fact that inside the state the population is already faced with the fact of economic collapse?
  26. +6
    August 30 2023
    Remove this .... Zakharov already from the pages of VO! She's already annoying!
  27. +2
    August 30 2023
    And what? like bears in winter, and the latter once again hit a strategic point, at once reducing the possibility of some serious transfer of forces and equipment, taking into account the blocking of Ruslanov.
    1. 0
      August 30 2023
      Quote: AA22Helmet
      5 Ruslan aircraft blocked to the west

      Sturgeon cut-up one.Their 55 pieces were released in total for the entire time
  28. +6
    August 30 2023
    Receiving huge money for expressing concern, and giving shameful comments, worked out well, now Dima will also wake up, write a menacing comment and then go drink French wine in an Italian suit, this is not what the people expect from the authorities. So we won’t go far with this preoccupied government
  29. -5
    August 30 2023
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "And in the end everything will be determined the resourceswho can do more: Russia Geranium or Ukraine Bobrov "///
    ----

    Ukraine easily receives military electronics,
    and Russia, because of the sanctions, is having difficulty extracting for itself.
    Where does it get it? Do you think that a drone of the level of Geranium or Beaver needs any specific military electronics? Required with the fifth acceptance and from minus 60 degrees?
    1. +3
      August 30 2023
      Quote: Pavel73
      Quote: voyaka uh
      "And in the end everything will be determined the resourceswho can do more: Russia Geranium or Ukraine Bobrov "///
      ----

      Ukraine easily receives military electronics,
      and Russia, because of the sanctions, is having difficulty extracting for itself.
      Where does it get it? Do you think that a drone of the level of Geranium or Beaver needs any specific military electronics? Required with the fifth acceptance and from minus 60 degrees?

      At least the Shahedas have rather specific electronics that allow them to continue flying when the GPS signal is lost.
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  31. +6
    August 30 2023
    Well, yes. 4 IL76 is nothing. Doesn't make sense. This is just one time.
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  33. +6
    August 30 2023
    Obviously, this agony of the Kyiv regime, stupid hatred, anger and the absence of any prospects in their own development

    Brilliant ....
    That is, burning a bunch of missiles for a useless fight with transformers is progress and development?
    Another thing is that these attacks do not make the right impression even on the Russian population.

    And all this against the backdrop of shelling of border villages and cities, dead and wounded adults, teenagers and children.
  34. +4
    August 30 2023
    Hmm, well, Mashka, Psaki decided to surpass, although it’s already too much, apparently they don’t have a snack in our MFA.
  35. -5
    August 30 2023
    Quote: 2 level advisor
    Quote: Pavel73
    Wow, how many TsIPSOshnikov gathered at VO ...

    judging by the posts of the TsIPSOshnik, it’s you Pavel, and what’s worse, not realizing this ..
    Quote: Pavel73
    The news is just a balm for the soul.

    with such your support of the "party course" - more harm than good ..

    And you mean not a TsIPSOshnik, but a living person? Let's check. Where do you think the drones that attacked Pskov were launched from?
  36. 0
    August 30 2023
    “Now that the weapon is becoming much more accurate, it can hit every single aircraft relatively easily, even if they are spread out,” Hecker said. “So now we have to disperse our aircraft to different airfields and maybe even highways and similar locations that Finland can provide.”

    The United States once had more of this potential during the Cold War, when Europe had more bases to land American warplanes, receive the necessary maintenance and rearm. Restoring that ability is a priority, Hecker said.

    "We'll start with 20-25" of these bases, Hecker said. "Of course, I'm not going to say where they are. But they are in strategic places throughout Europe." These bases will be stocked with equipment common to “every aircraft,” Hecker said.

    So, NATO bases will receive a spark within the same scheme, there is an understanding.
    It is interesting.
    The main lessons of the war in Ukraine from the commander of the US Air Force in Europe
    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/top-ukraine-war-lessons-from-usafs-commander-in-europe
    August 29, 2023, translation
    https://t.me/rogozin_do/4707

    As for the discrediting statement due to its deadlock, it seems to be working for Kyiv.
    Or on MI6, like comparing Stalin with Hitler.
    Stoltenberg, during a report to the US Congress, equated Joseph Stalin with Adolf Hitler.
    “I cannot accept support from avatars with Stalin - we suffered from him and his comrades. Leaders who destroyed their own people burn in hell twice as brightly as those who destroyed someone else’s.”
    Attacks on Stalin are an attack on the results of World War II.
  37. +1
    August 30 2023
    Interestingly, all channels disperse the information that the attack on the Pskov airfield was delivered not from the territory of Ukraine, but from the territory of third countries, i.e. directly from the territory of the NATO countries and this operation was being prepared for several months. It looks like a traitor at the airfield, as soon as they learned that several transport workers had arrived and started loading, it was immediately decided to strike. Looks like they've shipped something valuable. So, we are already being beaten insolently from NATO territory.

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