State Duma deputy named the ideal place for the use of tactical nuclear weapons during the NWO

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State Duma deputy named the ideal place for the use of tactical nuclear weapons during the NWO

Talk about the possible use of tactical nuclear weapons during the Ukrainian conflict sounded more than once. However, few people seriously spoke about its use.

According to Andrei Gurulev, deputy of the State Duma of Russia, today the area around the village of Rabotino, which is located in the Pohovsky district of the Zaporozhye region, is an ideal place for using tactical nuclear weapons. Serious battles have unfolded here in recent days.

Recall that the main blow of the Ukrainian counter-offensive is aimed at the Zaporozhye direction and significant forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are concentrated here. That is why it would be good to strike here with tactical nuclear weapons, the deputy believes.

They were all gathered there. And on this offensive group was covered with a copper basin

- said retired general Gurulev.



It should be noted that Lieutenant General Gurulev in 2016-2019 served as Deputy Commander of the Southern Military District.

According to the former military, after delivering such a strike, Russian forces would be able to completely take control of the Zaporozhye region, as well as neighboring Dnepropetrovsk, with the available forces. Such a course of events would lead to the threat of a blockade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine grouping operating in the Donbas, the deputy noted.
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    1. +38
      August 29 2023
      The deputies, unlike normal people, in addition to the spring exacerbation, also have an autumn ...
      1. -37
        August 29 2023
        State Duma deputy named the ideal place for the use of tactical nuclear weapons during the NWO

        That's right, he thinks, that's well done.
        An opinion is not yet a guide to action, not a direct order. All opinions must be taken into account and struck, it is inevitable to strike, and more than once - since they still do not understand where the truth is - common to all ...
        But, in the wrong place to hit where we ourselves will need to continue to live. And where they continue to suffer and be disappointed, in all their decisions.
        And with exacerbations ... you do not own the picture. I know much more than you. Both in essence of a question and according to its statistics.
        I will give you advice - to sort it out first with your exacerbations. The first tip is free.
        1. +4
          August 29 2023
          The use of nuclear weapons is to sign our helplessness. According to this logic, the US in Vietnam and Korea should have been bombed with nuclear weapons.

          Once you get involved in a war, you need to fight like people, and not use nuclear weapons with every difficulty.
          1. -6
            August 29 2023
            Well, there is some sense in this. Listen to this sentence in full in the video at the link below.
            https://topcor.ru/38739-v-gosdume-rajon-rabotino-nazvali-idealnym-mestom-dlja-primenenija-jadernogo-oruzhija.html
            1. +4
              August 29 2023
              Well, there is some sense in this. Listen to this sentence in full in the video at the link below.
              https://topcor.ru/38739-v-gosdume-rajon-rabotino-nazvali-idealnym-mestom-dlja-primenenija-jadernogo-oruzhija.html

              The meaning is very much there. Especially for those who are planning the war in our country, the role of concentrated tank armadas in it, the "correct" infantry fighting vehicles, aircraft and everything else, including unshaven beards.

              Bearded men do not think about gas masks. laughing

              And it will all look like this:

              1. -7
                August 29 2023
                Quote: Unchanging
                Opinion is not a guide to action

                There is an opinion that polonium in tea will give the deputy more thoughts about the admissibility of the use of radioactive munitions on our territory.
            2. +8
              August 29 2023
              Quote from Orange Bigg
              Well, there is some sense in this.

              There is, of course, from a MILITARY point of view. But war is the continuation of POLITICS by other, violent means (von Clausewitz). Therefore, from a POLITICAL point of view, the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Zaporozhye, against the VFU, --- is unacceptable. Precisely for political reasons!
              Therefore, as a military man, I understand and support Gurulev. As a DEPUTY of the State Duma - that is, a "politician" - I don’t understand and accuse him of political myopia, inertia (inflexibility of thinking as a statesman!) and inconsistency of his judgments with the state interests of the Russian Federation.
              IMHO.
            3. -3
              August 29 2023
              The meaning is especially accurate tactical nuclear weapons on the bridge across the Dnieper.
          2. -5
            August 29 2023
            Quote from Narrator
            The use of nuclear weapons is to sign our helplessness. According to this logic, the US in Vietnam and Korea should have been bombed with nuclear weapons.

            Well, actually they did. Not in Vietnam. Why Vietnam? Let's talk about Japan...
            1. +4
              August 30 2023
              Quote: Peter_Koldunov
              Quote from Narrator
              The use of nuclear weapons is to sign our helplessness. According to this logic, the US in Vietnam and Korea should have been bombed with nuclear weapons.

              Well, actually they did. Not in Vietnam. Why Vietnam? Let's talk about Japan...

              We are talking about the possibility of using nuclear weapons in Vietnam, when the US military operation has reached a dead end. It is more than likely that a nuclear strike at that moment (although there are many questions here ... where? why? who will answer and with what?) would have changed the final alignment. There is nothing to talk about Japan at all. It was used simply as a landfill. Test in real conditions. A nuclear strike on Japan no longer had any effect on the outcome of the war ....
          3. +6
            August 29 2023
            Quote from Narrator
            The use of nuclear weapons is to sign our helplessness. According to this logic, the US in Vietnam and Korea should have been bombed with nuclear weapons.

            In Vietnam, the United States used chemical weapons and napalm, the effect is the same as about tactical nuclear weapons, only without radiation, but with long-term consequences.
            Once you get involved in a war, you need to fight like people,

            N-yes. People just fight with what they have without hesitation.
          4. -1
            August 29 2023
            What could be more helpless than the situation that has developed now?
            Just the use of tactical nuclear weapons, this is an act of humanism and the withdrawal of the situation from the positional meat grinder.
            Even a show of determination is better than the current conspiracy.
            If you understand better the example of the Americans, then I will modestly remind you of the chemical weapons and napalm that they use without much hesitation.
            About all the bombed ports and bridges.
            So, the use of such a radical type of weapon is a direct path to the speedy oazgrom of the Wehrmacht's coming out and access to Zbruch
            https://t.me/redbiker
          5. -7
            August 29 2023
            Once you get involved in a war, you need to fight like people, and not use nuclear weapons with every difficulty.

            When they started the NWO, they probably couldn’t even imagine that not only NATO, but also many other mongrels who until recently fed from the hands of Russia would oppose Russia. And it wouldn’t hurt to bang on like llamas so that others wouldn’t be accustomed to barking towards Russia.
            1. Ray
              -1
              August 30 2023
              When they started the NWO, they probably couldn’t even imagine that not only NATO, but also many other mongrels who until recently fed from the hands of Russia would oppose Russia

              But this only emphasizes the stupidity and short-sightedness of our command.
          6. KCA
            0
            August 30 2023
            So they have a redneck "opinion", the military demanded, but the president did not dare, they used only chemical weapons
          7. +4
            August 30 2023
            There are now 25 brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Rabotino area! Yesterday the Military Chronicle published a map. It's really a very fat jackpot and it would be strange not to strike. The only question is that, in addition to tactical nuclear weapons, we have conventional types of weapons of high power and for some reason do not want to use them even in such a situation ...
            Rabotino was smashed to zero and the surroundings too, there are no civilians there anymore. But there is a lot of Western equipment and enemy troops, so why not launch a complex strike with FAB 500, for example?
          8. +4
            August 30 2023
            This is Russian land and how then to live on it? Our soldiers will also suffer from radiation
          9. -1
            August 30 2023
            No one threatened lamers in Vietnam! And nothing threatened their national interests! And we have a completely different, directly opposite picture.
          10. -2
            August 30 2023
            If the Russian Federation fought in Ukraine like the United States in Vietnam, Ukraine would have gone down in history long ago. Without any tactical nuclear weapons. The Yankees in Vietnam did not choose what was "humane" and what was not and did not justify themselves to anyone - they did not disdain napalm or pesticides
            1. Ray
              0
              August 30 2023
              Yes, she will soon go down in history when we start to fight. The president said: we haven't started yet!
              When the skies of Ukra are closed by Su-57 squadrons, the fields will be trampled by Almaty, and their positions will be ironed by our Coalition SV complexes.
              And in tanks, inside tanks, finally, after a year and a half of war and the loss of about 2 thousand tanks, they will finally establish encrypted digital communications.
          11. +1
            August 30 2023
            so they bombed with such bombs - that nothing is still growing and children are born freaks.
            1. 0
              August 30 2023
              This is what we are talking about. Ukraine also doesn’t bother with means of warfare - if only to inflict maximum damage (both civilians and military ones, it doesn’t matter to them) But the Russian Federation, after each strike, arranges a press conference with excuses for the West am
          12. +1
            August 30 2023
            According to this logic, the US in Vietnam and Korea should have been bombed with nuclear weapons.


            You probably do not know, but Commander MacArthur in Korea began to beg to be allowed to use nuclear weapons. President Truman then realized that the general was already "going crazy" and resolutely refused, and then removed him from command altogether.


            https://inosmi.ru/20170608/239547681.html
            In 1951, General Douglas MacArthur advocated a nuclear solution to the North Korean problem until he was fired...
          13. 0
            August 31 2023
            The nonsense is complete. I’ll tell you the example of Artemovsk, which was destroyed to the ground and where we lost a lot of our guys. With neutron warheads, it was possible to exterminate Bandera bio-garbage in an hour, with almost an entire city. And the next day, go into the city, collect trophies and dispose of dead banderlogs. When rats get in the house, you don’t burn the house down, you just poison the rats... And the ukry are the same rats that got in our house, just with two legs.
        2. +9
          August 29 2023
          Washington's dream is for Russia to sigh across its territory.
          Enemies and traitors in power are immeasurable.
          1. -1
            August 30 2023
            to listen to you - so we had to fight during the Second World War exclusively with bows, arrows and spears. And don’t drive tanks and don’t dig trenches and generally don’t litter with fascist corpses ....
        3. +1
          August 30 2023
          Well, they would say more specifically what you know. The same Gurulev at Solovyov's program used to say a lot that even without nuclear weapons we have something to show Kuz'kin's mother. In the style of the presidential "we haven't started yet."
        4. +1
          August 30 2023
          Help from a psychiatrist is always with you, or what?
      2. +8
        August 29 2023
        The deputies, unlike normal people, in addition to the spring exacerbation, also have an autumn ...
        Also summer...
        1. +5
          August 29 2023
          just what we lacked for a complete set to sum up the last two years ..
          and they said that green tarchok ...
      3. +10
        August 29 2023
        Quote: vadimtt
        The deputies, unlike normal people, in addition to the spring exacerbation, also have an autumn ...


        There was nothing left of Rabotino anyway. What is there to destroy, and even nuclear weapons? They obviously got excited.
        Donetsk volunteer Olena Bobkova, which is helping the Russian units fighting in these places with humanitarian aid, spoke about the situation in Rabotino.
        “This morning I called the mobilized Muscovites from the Zvezda regiment, who are stationed in Rabotino, Novoprokopovka and Kopany. The situation is not easy, the Ukrainians stick and stick, but ours both controlled the south of Rabotino and continue to control it.The village is almost destroyed, smashed to rubble. There hasn't been a living soul for a long time. It is small: 800 meters long and 400 meters wide. The north of Rabotino is controlled by the Ukrainians. Fights go for the center of the village.The Ukrainian tactic is as follows: in landings, infantry is loaded onto armored personnel carriers - either Ukrainian, or Turkish, or French, or American-made, for example, M-113, and drive up to our positions. Our artillery and aircraft begin to hit armored personnel carriers on the way - both in the landings themselves and on the roads. If they are not hit, they drive up close to us, then the infantry is unloaded and the armored personnel carrier leaves. Ukrainians in that area actively use their aircraft: Yesterday our troops shot down two Ukrainian Su-25s and one Mi-8 cargo helicopter, they are evacuating the wounded.

        For Russian units in and around Rabotino, the main difficulty lies in the fact that the Ukrainians managed to thin out the minefields and are now trying to advance through them. This is precisely the reason for the intensification of the offensive on Rabotino. The Ukrainian command believes that sooner or later it will be able to break the mobilized Muscovites.

        The second difficulty is in constantly changing combat conditions. Due to the fact that new reserves have to plug holes in those sectors of the front where there are no more mines, Russian commanders may not know who is on their left and who is on their right. This negatively affects the interaction.“There are also serious battles also for the village of Verbovoye. It is larger than Rabotino and is located a few kilometers to the right. The Armed Forces of Ukraine want to bypass our positions, but got bogged down in the fields. In general, for almost three months of the counteroffensive, the Ukrainians do not get anything.They have not even approached the Surovikin line yet, ”Bobkova summed up.
        1. +2
          August 29 2023
          So it seems that the point is not to destroy buildings, but to destroy enemy units ...
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      5. +5
        August 29 2023
        Quote: vadimtt
        The deputies, unlike normal people, in addition to the spring exacerbation, also have an autumn ...


        Yes, it seems that all the deputies are those people who turned out to be unnecessary in ordinary life and they all have cockroaches in their heads. All of them with a twist.
      6. +5
        August 29 2023
        Quote: vadimtt
        The deputies, unlike normal people, in addition to the spring exacerbation, also have an autumn ...

        they have all year round
        1. +1
          August 29 2023
          Not really, there are still holidays from hard work with thoughts about the people, God forgive me.
          1. +1
            August 29 2023
            Quote: vadimtt
            there are still holidays from hard work with thoughts about the people

            they are weird there too, so all year round
      7. +7
        August 29 2023
        On its territory tactical nuclear weapons?
        It's like taking a cleaver, swinging... Yes, and make yourself a sex change operation with a victory cry without anesthesia!

        For tactical nuclear weapons there are places further away, but more serious. For example, those transshipment bases of foreign weapons near Nezalezhnaya.
        But, unfortunately, the use of tactical nuclear weapons can be carried out ONCE without any special consequences, if they suddenly do not answer out of fear. But then - only a war of extermination. Therefore, they do not go unnecessarily from the trump king, and the ace with the joker is reserved for that evil guy at the far end of the table.
        1. 9PA
          -1
          August 30 2023
          Quote: RealPilot
          On its territory tactical nuclear weapons?
          It's like taking a cleaver, swinging... Yes, and make yourself a sex change operation with a victory cry without anesthesia!

          For tactical nuclear weapons there are places further away, but more serious. For example, those transshipment bases of foreign weapons near Nezalezhnaya.
          But, unfortunately, the use of tactical nuclear weapons can be carried out ONCE without any special consequences, if they suddenly do not answer out of fear. But then - only a war of extermination. Therefore, they do not go unnecessarily from the trump king, and the ace with the joker is reserved for that evil guy at the far end of the table.

          Sometimes you have to cut off a finger to save a limb.
      8. -3
        August 29 2023
        Normal people have no spring exacerbation, none at all. Don't talk to us!
      9. 0
        August 29 2023
        Quote: vadimtt
        The deputies, unlike normal people, in addition to the spring exacerbation, also have an autumn ...

        Every deputy is a creation of our hands. 10th is a single voting day...
      10. -1
        August 30 2023
        Quote: vadimtt
        ... besides the spring exacerbation, there is also an autumn one ...

        He simply prepares the ground for the impudent Saxons to provocation, they themselves will bang, and they will blame Russia and refer to such characters.
      11. 0
        August 30 2023
        The deputies, unlike normal people, in addition to the spring exacerbation, also have an autumn ...

        Why be rude? You can advise something, advise. For example, I propose instead of tactical nuclear weapons to use the father of all bombs with a capacity of 44 tons of TNT.
    2. +1
      August 29 2023
      From a military point of view, he is Gorulev, of course, right. This is what tactical nuclear weapons are designed for. But its use in this situation is contrary to military doctrine and the use of Russian nuclear weapons.
      1. +2
        August 29 2023
        What is stupidity? Are we at war with NATO? No, we have NWO, and even on our territory.
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      3. +7
        August 29 2023
        Quote: Babermetis
        But its use in this situation is contrary to military doctrine and the use of Russian nuclear weapons.

        It’s time for Gurulev to understand that for now the status of the conflict is NWO, not war and
        both warring sides know this, but so far neither side has bothered to declare war.
        1. +12
          August 29 2023
          Quote: carpenter
          It’s time for Gurulev to understand that for now the status of the conflict is NWO, not war and
          both sides know it

          That's why he was kicked out of the army, although he was only 51 years old, so he found a warm place for idlers - the State Duma, where you can talk all sorts of nonsense and no one will be kicked out of work.
          1. Ray
            -1
            August 30 2023
            Unfortunately, in modern realities, "only 51 years old", and even a few years ago, emphasizes youth. And even more so against the background of 67-year-old Gerasimov and Shoigu. (Deep breath). Involuntarily, the ambassadors of the Second World War are recalled - Marshal Zhukov, Marshal Rokossovsky, Marshal Vasilevsky (from the age of 42 - Chief of the General Staff). Zhukov was 45 years old during the Stalingrad operation, Rokossovsky was 46 years old during the Battle of Kursk, Vasilevsky, when he was appointed head of the General Staff in the spring of 42, was 47 years old!
        2. -6
          August 29 2023
          Quote: carpenter
          It’s time for Gurulev to understand that for now the status of the conflict is NWO, not war and
          both warring sides know this, but so far neither side has bothered to declare war.

          It's time for you to realize that Gurulev is a military general. Of course, he sometimes gets carried away, but, as they say, who among us is without sin ...
      4. +6
        August 29 2023
        Destroy the grouping in the Zaporozhye direction of tactical nuclear weapons?
        It will not work with one blow, a rather extensive zone of infection is formed on our land.
        Come on and print out the genie...
        The main thing is not the physical destruction of TNW banderlogs, it has many negative consequences, but the real threat of its use. So that Banderlogs do not hope for any military success, they say fortune will turn to him in front, etc.
        Perhaps, if applied, then in the West. Kill all railway and main highways in deserted places. And there is no mass defeat of the hulks, and logistics to hell and fear trains the leaders of Banderlog. But you need to be warned. Say you don't want peace? Is there hope for an escalation, for your masters? Say you want to remake what was donated by the Katami-Bolsheviks into anti-Russia? Be ready.
      5. +1
        August 29 2023
        Quote: Babermetis
        But its application in this situation contradicts military doctrine and the use of Russian nuclear weapons.

        Now I'll compare them, now I'll compare them...

        Of course, the opinion of a real reserve lieutenant general is an order of magnitude weaker than the opinion of a paper lieutenant general, especially a paper foreman. It seems to me that if a person talks about the use of tactical nuclear weapons, then he represents both the entire responsibility for its use and the elimination of the consequences of its use.
        Or will you begin to assert that Russian sovereignty extends to all declaratively accepted territories?
        Maybe you will argue that they have rights for Russian citizens?
        And how will you begin to reason with a pack of rabid dogs that they told the world that they would not stop until a complete victory over Russia? Western countries have announced that military assistance to the Nazis in Ukraine will never stop ... Do you have proposals to change the situation (opinions of these Western politicians).
        I will also ask, why then our country has tactical nuclear weapons? You tell the audience when and where a hypothetical situation of its use may arise ...
        * * *
        And the last thing... Read what TNW is... Study the specifics of ground and high-altitude nuclear weapons... Read about the damaging factors, the possible power of TNW, which can be equivalent to 300 tons of TNT (0,3 kT). but orders of magnitude lower than the power of BB XNW ...
        Read this:
        Tactical weapons serve much more modest purposes. It is used directly on the battlefield, or in a shallow rear behind the line of contact. Such weapons are not designed to decapitate the United States or major NATO countries. Its goals are the same as those of ordinary shells - to destroy some kind of military unit, airfield, warehouse, headquarters, etc. It’s just that conventional shells for such purposes will need 3 trains, and tactical nuclear charges - one piece. Tactical weapons, ideally, take into account the civilian population and their use should have minimal consequences for civilian cities.

        https://dzen.ru/a/Y1etuJP2Lih-GEVB
        1. +8
          August 29 2023
          Quote: ROSS 42
          about the possible power of tactical nuclear weapons, which is equivalent to 300 tons of TNT (0,3 kT).

          This is true. But why use NUCLEAR weapons when there are powerful volumetrically detonating ammunition of comparable power! But for this you need to "launch Berlaga" (c), as the great strategist advised ... But no one wants or is afraid to risk a strategist like the Tu-95MS ...
          You can simply bombard all the Nazis with thermobaric mallets, but for some reason they don’t use them either ... Apparently they are afraid of accusations of "disproportionate use of force" ... This record is already spinning on Uncle Sam's gramophone ...
          You can cut off the grouping from the supply points of the BP. But this is also not done. The impression is as if the tops fell into a stupor and are waiting for something ... or preparing for something.
          But it's all mixed up on soldier's blood and is already starting to seriously strain! It's time to know and honor!
          IMHO.
    3. -5
      August 29 2023
      And what, in fact, did General Gurulev say incorrectly? This is exactly how they taught to fight in the USSR, and then in the Russian Federation with enemies. Or maybe all these Bandera and Jewish Ukrainians are not our enemies? Have you gathered near Rabotino to dig potatoes, to sing songs in chorus? They don't kill our soldiers with every means at their disposal? Why should we chew snot, lose people?
      1. +4
        August 29 2023
        Having won tactically, Russia will lose strategically.
        1. +8
          August 29 2023
          It is simply shocking the number of people who, in all seriousness, advocate the use of nuclear weapons ... And what will happen to the consequences? They offer to "bang" at the Russian border... All this would be very much approved by the Democrats and their European servants. For all of them, this would be the best scenario: "Forever you can forget about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, because now you can forever trumpet about a nuclear disaster in Ukraine"...
          1. -8
            August 29 2023
            "It's just shocking the number of people who, in all seriousness, advocate the use of nuclear weapons ..." ///
            ----
            People are depressed from failures in a protracted conventional war with no end in sight.
            As a rule, older people advocate for nuclear weapons.
            Like: "I don't care to die soon, and so - the whole world is in dust,
            And it's more fun to die together."
            1. +4
              August 29 2023
              Quote: voyaka uh
              People are depressed from failures in a protracted conventional war with no end in sight.

              Well, since depression, let them drink vodka, and not talk about nuclear weapons.
              1. +6
                August 29 2023
                Quote: carpenter
                Quote: voyaka uh
                People are depressed from failures in a protracted conventional war with no end in sight.

                Well, since depression, let them drink vodka, and not talk about nuclear weapons.

                It does not interfere
            2. +3
              August 29 2023
              Quote: voyaka uh
              People are depressed from failures in a protracted conventional war with no end in sight.
              As a rule, older people advocate for nuclear weapons.

              As a rule, the use of tactical nuclear weapons is advocated by people who feel sorry for the young people who are being crushed by this SVO ... Who once studied the subject and know the difference between 0,3 kT, 20 kT and 700 kT ...
              You know, it will be joyful for someone to see how Russia will be forced to fight endlessly ... Until the state of Ukraine disappears FOREVER, along with its contents. As long as there are no people left who need help with equipment and weapons...
              * * *
              I'm just curious, what result, what consequences of the use of tactical nuclear weapons by Russia draws your imagination? Will a nuclear apocalypse break out? Hell yeah here! They will shut up and keep silent like a rag...Because they will understand that Russia has matured and will no longer play war games.
              * * *
              This idea was expressed by Gurulev.
              * * *
              What did you propose - champions of peace and victory by negotiations? What strategy do you propose? Mobilize the population of Russia by creating an army of twenty million, as in the years of the Second World War? The question is, where can such a number of personnel be recruited, who will maintain such an army? Or even worse - to sit down at the negotiating table?
              * * *
              Unlike politicians and propagandists, the military is trying to offer something real. And here you can criticize only the place of application ...
              1. +2
                August 29 2023
                Quote: ROSS 42
                Will a nuclear apocalypse break out? Hell yeah here! Shut up and be silent in a rag ...

                1. will not break out ... NATO will scream, but will not twitch: more will not want to rest in the Bose ... and above all - the States;
                2. they will not shut up, but SCREAM like half-cut pigs! moreover, they will obstruct us in all directions!
                3. we will find ourselves without allies, in complete m-n isolation. The whales will merge first and condemn our use of tactical nuclear weapons as unacceptable in relations with non-nuclear states.
                4. a split within the country is possible, which the waiting and the 5th column will not take advantage of. Possible GV and the collapse of the state ...
                And all because someone has itched NAPOLEONIC complexes - without taking into account the ALL set of factors (economics-politics-military potential-mobile resources and human potential) to rush into an adventure with unpredictable and uncalculated consequences.
                This is the decision of a suicidal adventurer, and not a serious politician responsible for the fate of the people. I'm sure I.V. Stalin would not have done that!
                IMHO.
              2. 0
                August 30 2023
                Hell yeah here! Shut up and and will be silent in a rag.


                That is, the West will be afraid of us to such an extent that it will stop supporting Ukraine?
                Well, this will definitely not happen if we use nuclear weapons.
            3. 0
              August 30 2023
              As a rule, older people advocate for nuclear weapons.


              And you don’t see that General Gurulev is retired and looks like an elderly man, he really is only 55. And he is definitely not going to die soon.
              His "shabby" appearance is simply the consequences of the "burdens" of the military and parliamentary service.
          2. +3
            August 29 2023
            Quote: Doccor18
            It is simply shocking the number of people who, in all seriousness, advocate the use of nuclear weapons ... And what will happen to the consequences? They offer to "bang" at the Russian border... All this would be very much approved by the Democrats and their European servants. For all of them, this would be the best scenario: "Forever you can forget about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, because now you can forever trumpet about a nuclear disaster in Ukraine"...


            Exactly!
          3. +5
            August 29 2023
            Quote: Doccor18
            It is simply shocking the number of people who, in all seriousness, advocate the use of nuclear weapons ...

            Honor every third person who has a "tower".
          4. -4
            August 29 2023
            I do not think that Vova, who is out of his mind, will press the button ... then the game is over ... in the attack to reset the world,? I still panima there are fascists pintos near Moscow ruplevka ... and no one will give him ... how invincible one must be
            Gurulev decided to surpass Dimon - both are sick
            it won’t work to gasp a little in one village - they will unwind to the fullest. nuclear weapons are weapons of deterrence and bluff, well, or extreme defense to the extreme
        2. -5
          August 29 2023
          I believe that tactical nuclear weapons should be used to destroy the transport infrastructure on the border with Poland, where NATO weapons come from.
          1. 0
            August 29 2023
            Quote from vfk
            tactical nuclear weapons need to destroy the transport infrastructure on the border with Poland, where NATO weapons come from.

            a similar decision was proposed to be taken by the amers during the Vietnam War, cutting "the Ho Chi Minh trail, on the border with Cambodia, in order to deprive the Viet Cong of military assistance with weapons from the USSR. But even they did not go for it. For political (not military!) reasons.
            You offer us the worst possible solution to the Ukrainian crisis! This will not work. Europe is not Southeast Asia!!! No one will ever forgive us for this, and the Yankees with their bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki will make them the lambs of God, and us - the fiends of HELL !!! Which by all means need to be destroyed in order to punish the original evil !!! And they will do this with the frenzy of fanatics going to the fire.
            IMHO.
            1. -2
              August 29 2023
              Europe is not Southeast Asia!!! No one will ever forgive us for this, and the Yankees with their bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki will make them the lambs of God, and us - the fiends of HELL !!! Which by all means need to be destroyed in order to punish the original evil !!!

              Something you are too hysterical, in order to please your dear European partners. All your scarecrows are ALREADY implemented, so be afraid of rain in the river!
              The militancy of the Europids dried up with the death of the gene pool of Germany and France. And since the time of the Roman Empire, they have been trained to respect only strength and hypocrites about universal human values ​​and the infinite value of every human life (well, at least their own, but the neighbor was simply unlucky).
              At the same time, an attempt to destroy troops deployed in combat formations of tactical nuclear weapons is nonsense, more than once refuted by military science.
              Nuclear weapons are the key to depriving the enemy of mobility and supplies, as well as destroying critical infrastructure. And this makes it possible to plan the development of operations, taking into account the impossibility of transferring reserves by the enemy and carrying out counter-maneuvers.
              Well, yes, a necessary condition for the application is the secrecy of deployment.
              1. +4
                August 29 2023
                Quote: Victor Leningradets
                Something you are too hysterical, in order to please your dear European partners.

                Oh-oh-oh ... For 43 years, with a "gun" in my hands, the "European partners" really liked me! Especially on the database and offline with the same SBP, which many here are so famously talking about ... And even more, probably, when I removed code blocking from products ....
                So - you did not guess, dear, with the desire to "like".
                God is your judge, but you will never understand us, the military, when your palms sweat when you receive the SBU for use ... when you open a package with a "set of numbers" ...
                1. -3
                  August 30 2023
                  Especially on the database and offline with the same SBP, which many here are so famously talking about

                  In general, a DB is a form of service to prevent a surprise attack by an enemy (there are no probable opponents on a DB!), Well, preempting his strike.
                  Well, what did you sweat there? - it's weekdays! You get used to everything. I remember their post-Vietnamese training grounds. A whole firework of novelties - one more deadly than the other. And their motivation: they say, the Viet Cong did not defeat us - we were betrayed by our politicians and pacifist slush. And the first experiments with the Worobat program (later Shuttle) also occurred on my database shifts.
                  So I'm sorry if I offended you, I just misunderstood. Good luck and health!
                  1. +1
                    August 30 2023
                    Quote: Victor Leningradets
                    In general, DB is a form of service to prevent a surprise enemy attack (on the database - there are no probable opponents!), well, anticipating his strike.
                    So what are you sweating there? - this is everyday life! You get used to everything.

                    1. well, yes, well, yes...our SSBNs with a full set of “carrots” were on duty in readiness to “make friends happy” and not enemies. Or do you think that the punched cards (my machine) contained the coordinates of Havana, Sofia, Budapest...and not London, Paris, Washington.
                    2. Who has what. I have the palms, the first mate has the forehead... Combat control signals came at the most inopportune times: both day and night. The General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces constantly checked the readiness of the DS according to a broken schedule. And what kind of signal it was - combat or training - was not immediately clear... but the dialing had to be done in any way... And it’s good if the radio tells you that everything is calm in the world. And if you receive the SBU after the “Statement of the Soviet Government...”, then you have time to think through a lot in your head about and about...
                    Therefore, I don’t recommend laughing at this: it is blasphemous towards the commanders of the PKK SN and all those involved... Yes
                    3. Get used to a pistol cocked to your head? Well, only if you are a suicidal goner! There were none of these among us: everyone was young, healthy, with a sense of humor .. and really wanted to live! Because - "everything was in front", well, or "in front"!
                    Yours faithfully, soldier
            2. +2
              August 29 2023
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              No one will ever forgive us for this, and the Yankees with their bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki will make them the lambs of God, and us - the fiends of HELL !!!

              Well , well I agree . They need a reason to increase pressure and dehumanize the Russians... And then it will be possible to do everything. up to the introduction of NATO troops into the unfortunate former Ukrainian SSR. Well, how you want to end this war and so that fewer people die. Therefore, a one-time action with the use of tactical nuclear weapons seems to be a solution .. But .... It was immediately necessary to hit hard and painfully. Playing for time, what did we win? * Nothing ...
            3. +1
              August 29 2023
              You offer us the worst possible solution to the Ukrainian crisis! This will not work. Europe is not Southeast Asia!!! No one will ever forgive us for this, and the Yankees with their bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki will make them the lambs of God, and us - the fiends of HELL !!! Which by all means need to be destroyed in order to punish the original evil !!! And they will do this with the frenzy of fanatics going to the fire.

              I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you, even if I'm NOT VERY FOR the use of tactical nuclear weapons either! BUT, nevertheless, we are already considered as such "devils of HELL", and they are already trying to destroy us! As for the bombing of Japan by the Americans with nuclear weapons, there have been no problems in this regard for a long time. No one has been stigmatizing them for this, except for our country for a long time, even the Yapis themselves
              1. 0
                August 30 2023
                So far, not all of humanity considers Russians to be fiends of hell, but after application, believe me, even a one-year-old baby somewhere in Brazil will roll his eyes and cry at the sight of a toy with a Russian soldier with a tricolor on his shoulder
          2. +3
            August 29 2023
            And airfields on the western lines of 404. This will create an excellent exclusion zone where no one in their right mind will climb. What we need. At the same time, the Poles will calm down, since they, too, will not need oriental kreses in this form.
      2. +4
        August 29 2023
        For a "boot" from MVOKU, this is normal. By the age of 55, brains had not increased. And for a deputy ... Well, we have such deputies - every first one.
        1. +8
          August 29 2023
          Quote: bandabas
          For a "boot" from MVOKU, this is normal. By the age of 55, brains had not increased.

          Even my wife, watching Solovyov's programs, noticed that this "boot" constantly carries nonsense.
          1. +1
            August 29 2023
            And who tested your wife for objectivity?
          2. -1
            August 29 2023
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Even my wife, watching Solovyov's programs, noticed that this "boot" constantly carries nonsense.

            That is, in fact, you just said that your wife understands everything in military affairs more than a lieutenant general who studied this all his life, who graduated from the famous Frunze OVA, who personally fought in Chechnya and Donbass?
    4. +10
      August 29 2023
      Is it completely bad with the head? And what will we do with radiation later? It is possible to strike with nuclear weapons in theory near the border with NATO countries, but not in purely Russian lands, due to a misunderstanding, given to the uk'-roina!
      1. 0
        August 29 2023
        And what are the damaging factors in nuclear weapons? And how long will the area be contaminated, depending on the size of the explosion in TNT equivalent? what is the damage radius?
        1. 0
          August 29 2023
          for thermonuclear weapons, rule 777 works
          after 7 hours, the radiation drops by 10 times
          after 49 hours 100 times
          after 14 days, 1000 times - you can leave the bomb shelters, in principle, they are designed for 15 days
      2. +5
        August 29 2023
        you need to take better care of the anti-fragmentation protection of soldiers, losses reach up to 68%
        there is a new UHMWPE material
        already even businessmen on their own initiative, they themselves make anti-fragmentation lining
        for neck protection, shoulder pads, leg pads, five-point guard
        body kit on a helmet: back pad and visor
      3. -9
        August 29 2023
        Quote: Thrifty
        Is it completely bad with the head? And what will we do with radiation later? It is possible to strike with nuclear weapons in theory near the border with NATO countries, but not in purely Russian lands, due to a misunderstanding, given to the uk'-roina!

        There will be no radiation. Modern nuclear weapons are extremely effective in splitting atoms and releasing energy. Radiation is the last thing to worry about. The very fact of application!
      4. +1
        August 29 2023
        Quote: Thrifty
        Is your head bad at all? And then what will we do with radiation?

        Well, you take an interest in the damaging factors of TACTICAL nuclear weapons. You look, and you will stop suspecting the honored lieutenant general of schizophrenia :))

        TNW - as if specially created for the song of Tsoi Zvezda named Sun:
        "In an hour she is just earth, in two she has flowers and grass, in three she is alive again."
        And this is the most appropriate metaphor for TNW. There's an overwhelming speed of splitting. The infection rate drops very quickly, and almost to zero. And if it is blown up not on the ground, but above the surface of the earth, then this is generally a matter of almost a few hours ...
        1. -2
          August 29 2023
          Pyotr Koldunov is such a banter? How do you neutralize radiation? Decay products of the same cesium, strontium, will you scoop out buckets? Disperse gamma radiation with a pissing rag ???
        2. +2
          August 29 2023
          Quote: Peter_Koldunov
          overwhelming speed of splitting. The infection rate drops very quickly, and almost to zero.

          I have the impression that you skipped physics at school, and in your mature years you never heard anything about INDUCED radiation and LONG-LIVING isotopes.
          Do not disgrace! Take a textbook and read - maybe the world will play differently for you with its revelations from the field of NUCLEAR PHYSICS !!! laughing
          1. -1
            August 30 2023
            Quote: BoA KAA
            Quote: Peter_Koldunov
            overwhelming speed of splitting. The infection rate drops very quickly, and almost to zero.

            I have the impression that you skipped physics at school, and in your mature years you never heard anything about INDUCED radiation and LONG-LIVING isotopes.
            Do not disgrace! Take a textbook and read - maybe the world will play differently for you with its revelations from the field of NUCLEAR PHYSICS !!! laughing


            "INDUCED radiation" - is this from a series about compact parabolics? A few hours after the explosion of the tsar bomb (58 megatons), radiation was measured at the epicenter - it was possible to land.
        3. -1
          August 29 2023
          All true.
          When options for intercepting US strategic aviation were considered, radiation from the use of missiles with nuclear warheads in the stratosphere was not taken into account at all, only the shock wave, radiation and EMP.
        4. 0
          August 30 2023
          take an interest in the damaging factors of TACTICAL nuclear weapons.


          Since the 70s, neutron radiation, and not a shock wave, has been considered the main damaging factor for ground and air tactical nuclear weapons. This is what TNW charges were designed for.

          There's an overwhelming speed of splitting. The infection rate drops very quickly, and almost to zero.


          The "cleanest" ground nuclear explosion in the USSR is the Taiga project in 1971 in the Perm Territory.
          Development of technology for creating a channel for turning the northern rivers with nuclear explosions.
          The most “clean” nuclear charges were specially taken, and even the wind was guessed in advance so that the dust cloud would be blown into an uninhabited zone.

          Now the radioactivity around is only 2-3 times higher than the natural norm, and local even fish in the formed lake "Nuclear".
          And only 52 years have passed!
    5. +2
      August 29 2023
      I am not a general, I did not graduate from academies. In my understanding, nuclear weapons are weapons of deterrence. We have a doctrine of application. Otherwise, you can let the Genie out of the bottle. NATO also has a nuclear weapon. Then a little will not seem to anyone.
      1. 0
        August 29 2023
        and who to restrain???? the United States and NATO have long crossed all the thresholds of containment!
        1. +1
          August 29 2023
          Quote: opuonmed
          and who to restrain???? the United States and NATO have long crossed all the thresholds of containment!

          Not even close to say the least. They don’t even supply F-35s, Tomogawks and other serious weapons. Not to mention its tactical nuclear. If the Armed Forces of Ukraine gasp with a nuclear weapon, then they, too, may suddenly have arsenals of similar weapons in the hands of the Mikol Jonesovs.
          1. +1
            August 29 2023
            uhhhhh soon f16 if we continue to lisp and tomahawks and f35 will be sent! and they will not use nuclear weapons in the Russian Federation, the answer will be for them and they will not give the ukrams, too, the answer will be for them! current dirty bomb ukrr can give! and still the answer will be on them! they themselves, the United States and Europe, opened Pandora's box when they went according to their plan anyway! of course, the use of the Russian nuclear will not pass without a painful blockade, but the Russian Federation can make the nuclear, but no one will use the nuclear in the Russian Federation, otherwise the whole world will come to the United States and Europe perfectly understand this, as well as the Russian Federation understands that NATO and the USA will not hit the nuclear! current then when everything came full kargets! and so the Russian Federation occupied the regions of the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye, so the Russian Federation has the right to use nuclear weapons!
          2. +2
            August 29 2023
            If you gasp with a nuclear weapon in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then they too may suddenly have arsenals of similar weapons in the hands of the Mikol Jonesovs

            Of course not.
            But an approximate list of response actions can be presented:
            - commissioning of the US NATO allies adjacent to Ukraine, reinforced by American "volunteers";
            - organization of sea, land and aerospace blockade of Russia;
            - an operation to intimidate Russia and China by destroying Iran;
            - deploying the industry of South Korea and Japan for the mass production of weapons;
            - activation of dormant anti-Russian forces, both along the perimeter of the border (Caucasus, Turkestan) and within the country (Idel-Ural, Karjala, etc.);
            The de facto exclusion of Russia and Belarus from the UN with the expulsion of the entire diplomatic corps, the severance of diplomatic relations with the GXNUMX countries and AUKUS ++.
            And regardless of the will of the United States, the appearance of a dozen countries-owners of nuclear weapons.
            So if you use nuclear weapons, you defeat Ukraine, but if you lose your horse, you won’t use it, in a couple of years they will use it against you.
            1. -1
              August 29 2023
              Quote: Victor Leningradets
              So if you use nuclear weapons, you defeat Ukraine, but if you lose your horse, you won’t use it, in a couple of years they will use it against you.

              so it will be if they pick up the key to the nuclear weapons of the Russian Federation!

              a blockade can be made by current NATO on NATO territory, they understand that in other places it is World War 3! the blockade and on its territory, NATO will also do the United States, but how the allies and partners of the Russian Federation will lead, this is no longer a fact that they will go against the Russian Federation! and the Russian Federation is already up to its neck in sanctions) Kaliningrad can be blocked, it seems, besides the sea on foot, they will stick a 100% blockage! I hope that this is all thought out if they take such a step! the main thing is technology resources and people, and the rest is a by-product) although who knows what will happen, I hope who should know that he is already ready for the blockade, etc., etc., if they apply!
      2. 0
        August 29 2023
        And here NATO in general or 404 in NATO? Maybe NATO will unleash a nuclear war because of an illegitimate junta?
        1. -3
          August 29 2023
          Quote: Incvizitor
          And here NATO in general or 404 in NATO? Maybe NATO will unleash a nuclear war because of an illegitimate junta?

          Yes, no one will untie. It’s just that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will already inflict nuclear strikes on Moscow. NATO will sing that they have nothing to do with it, but all the lads craftsmen in the garages have made everything. We downloaded the instructions on the Internet, and assembled a nuclear Tomahawk. Miracles and nothing more, and rescuers will be ready to send to clean up the radioactive rubble of the Kremlin.
          1. +4
            August 29 2023
            Quote: BlackMokona
            Yes, no one will untie. It’s just that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will already inflict nuclear strikes on Moscow. NATO will sing that they have nothing to do with it, but all the lads craftsmen in the garages have made everything. We downloaded the instructions on the Internet, and assembled a nuclear Tomahawk.

            If it were that easy, then why aren't they doing it now, or haven't already done it? Is it from gentlemanly nobility? Like, since Russia doesn’t shy away TNW, then they won’t put TNW in Ukraine either? Do you believe in it yourself?
            If it were so easy to get out of participating in a nuclear attack on Russia, then they would have put everything they needed a long time ago, and then they would have denied it exactly as you described above.
            They have already supplied shells with depleted uranium to the bloomers - and this is already just a tiny little step less than tactical nuclear weapons.
            So whatever they can afford to deliver, they deliver. If something is not supplied, it is only out of fear that:
            a) The whole world will see that this is not an invincible prodigy, but conventional weapons that are not capable of qualitatively changing anything. Which, in addition, are burning and being destroyed by Russia no worse than any others.
            b) A terrible fear of being really drawn into hostilities. And if fear from the first factor can sometimes be overcome by auto-training, that "everything will be fine, our weapons are the best" - then this factor is simply irresistible.
          2. -1
            August 29 2023
            It’s just that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will already inflict nuclear strikes on Moscow

            Doesn't dance. If a nuclear strike is inflicted on Ukraine with decisive goals, Khlopchikov WILL NOT LEFT. The maximum that will be - prisoners of war.
            The most interesting will begin later (see above).
    6. -6
      August 29 2023
      The option is not great. Nuclear strike should not be one. Rabotino, Orekhov, Gulyai-Polye, Lviv, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk... To completely disorganize the resistance. Tactical nuclear weapons are not so destructive as to mix the cards so sharply with a single use. Complex influence decides.
      1. +3
        August 29 2023
        Why not think? We already have no allies in this NWO, except for Belarus, Syria and, to some extent, Iran and North Korea. And after the use of tactical nuclear weapons, we will generally be outcasts in the world.
        1. -2
          August 29 2023
          Yes, our allies are smart, they know how to express themselves, but they don’t want to help, they want us to put people “automatic on automatic”. Why are such allies dull?
        2. +7
          August 29 2023
          Do you care so much what people think of you, who at best are indifferent to you, and at worst hate you and want to kill you? "Outcasts". What kind of servility? Russia is historically an outcast. Always has been and always will be. There are too many who want to bite off a piece of it, or at least rob it. That's when Russia allows itself to be robbed and spit in its face, then yes - friend Bill will pat on the shoulder, and the Bundeschancellor will allow him to conduct his orchestra.
        3. 0
          August 29 2023
          Quote: Vladimir M
          Why not think? We already have no allies in this NWO, except for Belarus, Syria and, to some extent, Iran and North Korea. And after the use of tactical nuclear weapons, we will generally be outcasts in the world.

          Haven't we started yet? We have no allies, not at all. And you need to get rid of nuclear weapons, a non-nuclear power does not have the right to have nuclear weapons, since even the bombing of the capital did not become a reason to bark at the news of the world about its status. The status of modern Russia is below the plinth, lowered buzuter, on which the feet will be wiped for a long time to come. Therefore, there will never be allies. When "red lines" were drawn in the Kremlin, the enemies thought that there would be real things behind them, up to the real possibility of using the entire arsenal of weapons to defend their own interests, but then the clay giant was blown away, and the provocateur in the face of dill was given the opportunity to kick the bear to everyone, that only vruki hits, the red lines became just words, potential allies merged, and the enemies realized the weakness of the clay ear. Even nuclear power plants are being struck by dill, knowing that no one will even pull them back, and Russia will not even deal a painful enough blow to discourage any desire to hit nuclear power plants from dill and cause real fear among the countries sponsors of dill.
          Ukraine must cease to be anti-Russian or cease to be at all - this is how the question of its goals should be raised, then the West will also begin to change its policy from confrontation, to a policy of negotiation.
          And judging by those howls about yao every time, then it’s better to get rid of it if we can’t / don’t want to defend our interests by any means and methods. No one is afraid of Russian threats, especially nuclear ones, since we ourselves are more afraid of nuclear weapons than our opponents, so why do we need them?
          1. -1
            August 29 2023
            Quote: Horon
            we ourselves are more afraid of nuclear weapons than our opponents, so why do we need them?

            "Stupid, stupid, funny fool"... (c) S. Yesenin.
            That great poet wrote about a foal trying to overtake a locomotive ... (Don't you know that steel cavalry overtook live horses ?!)
            Russia exists as a sovereign state thanks to the presence of NUCLEAR weapons. And the strategic triad will continue to improve, to spite you and people like you!
            And your position looks like the position of Judas Trotsky at the conclusion of the Brest peace: - No war, no peace! And disband the army!" (Remove trousers and take a knee-elbow position. Relax and have fun!)
            Your offer is worse than betrayal! You are essentially proposing to capitulate in a "civilized manner", without a fight or resistance, to surrender to the mercy of the Anglo-Saxons. Apparently the fate of the Indians and the Boers did not teach you anything personally.
            And it was not for this that the multinational people of Russia were starving and lacking sleep, creating their own national NUCLEAR weapons, so that people like you (unworthy descendants) offered to abandon it!
            And shove your miserable pacifism and absurd proposals at the expense of nuclear weapons! as unacceptable and harmful in every way! am
            1. -3
              August 29 2023
              "Stupid, stupid, funny fool" ... (c) S. Yesenin.

              What's the use of your gun if your face is beaten?
              Russia exists as a sovereign state thanks to the presence of NUCLEAR weapons.

              So sovereign that strategic targets are easily hit, and we are looking for an excuse why this is not yet a reason to adhere to our own doctrine.
              And the strategic triad will continue to improve

              Naturally, but when the time comes, it will also only depict power, but it will not be capable of more. Will the same United States talk about the danger of using nuclear weapons if this is the only remaining argument for defending their interests? No! Even the DPRK showed that it is always ready to use Yao and the United States no longer ran into a magic pendel. We just draw "red lines", but we don't go further than that. Therefore, we have yao, but everyone sees that no one will use it, even if they start bombing Moscow, but in order to confuse the Russian bear, the six who allegedly do not have yao will be bombed.
              And your position looks like the position of Judas Trotsky at the conclusion of the Brest peace: - No war, no peace! Disband the army!"

              Do not ascribe to me what I did not write! Read carefully what I wrote. I believe that if the situation requires the use of Yao, then it should be applied regardless of the opinions of others, they can change their opinion if their desires are broken by our arguments, including the argument about a good world, this is when the parties can and are willing to negotiate, and do not try to suppress everyone under their "exclusive" interests.
              And shove your miserable pacifism and absurd proposals at the expense of nuclear weapons! as unacceptable and harmful in every way!

              Nevertheless, at least occasionally have a bite and do not prescribe other people's words to me.
              1. +1
                August 29 2023
                Quote: Horon
                when the time comes, it will also only depict power, but it will not be capable of more.

                Dear! You are clearly from an independent ... or a purely liberoid all-proper.
                If a decision is made to use the SBP, then it WILL BE APPLIED on time and for the intended purposes!
                And our counterparts are well aware of this. They also know for sure that even with the help of the RF Strategic Nuclear Forces, we are capable of destroying any country in the world, starting with the USA, the WB, and further down the list ...
                And I am 155% sure that those people who are allowed to store, prepare and use SBP at the decisive hour will not falter and will fulfill their military duty to the country to the end ... Our enemies also know this. And, believe me, they don’t even allow joking or doubting about this! (Not like you, dear ...)
                Unfortunately for you, you don't understand. Haven't matured yet. Happens.
                1. 0
                  August 30 2023
                  Quote: BoA KAA
                  Quote: Horon
                  when the time comes, it will also only depict power, but it will not be capable of more.

                  Dear! You are clearly from an independent ... or a purely liberoid all-proper.
                  If a decision is made to use the SBP, then it WILL BE APPLIED on time and for the intended purposes!
                  And our counterparts are well aware of this. They also know for sure that even with the help of the RF Strategic Nuclear Forces, we are capable of destroying any country in the world, starting with the USA, the WB, and further down the list ...
                  And I am 155% sure that those people who are allowed to store, prepare and use SBP at the decisive hour will not falter and will fulfill their military duty to the country to the end ... Our enemies also know this. And, believe me, they don’t even allow joking or doubting about this! (Not like you, dear ...)
                  Unfortunately for you, you don't understand. Haven't matured yet. Happens.

                  You don’t confuse me with someone else on whose comment I wrote my first comment? Here are some examples:

                  Quote: Vladimir M
                  Why not think? We already have no allies in this NWO, except for Belarus, Syria and, to some extent, Iran and North Korea. And after the use of tactical nuclear weapons, we will generally be outcasts in the world.

                  There are many more of them, but you decided to write to me, in response to my bitter irony about the current situation and those views that, on any occasion that can be considered as a reason for using tiao, there are immediately those who begin to talk about the consequences of its application, forgetting that there may be consequences and its non-application. But if you want to cling to me, then alas and oh, I’m not interested in you, because my views are close to yours, but I have long developed a skeptical outlook on life, up to the use of black humor. hi
                  1. +1
                    August 30 2023
                    Quote: Horon
                    I have long developed a skeptical view of life, even to the point of using black humor.

                    Colleague, I didn't mean to offend you...
                    Regarding "black humor":
                    1. it is relevant to the question “what to drink in the morning or evening”, but not in relation to nuclear weapons and the consequences of their use...
                    2. if you want to make an original joke, give it a like so that later your intentions will be clear to everyone...
                    With respect (for the coincidence of views). hi
      2. -2
        August 29 2023
        To start with, a few will be enough on the first day.
    7. +3
      August 29 2023
      Deputies, as public persons and those in power, must watch their language and pay for any such statements by deprivation of office. Maybe then, finally, they will start thinking, and not just scratching their tongues and pushing populist slogans.
      1. -2
        August 29 2023
        Yes, to deprive him of his post, and nuclear weapons continue to gather dust, dear partners will only be happy
        1. -3
          August 29 2023
          This general's only function is to scratch his tongue on various political propaganda talk shows.
        2. -1
          August 29 2023
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          and nuclear weapons continue to gather dust, dear partners will only be happy

          We have a doctrine according to which nuclear weapons can be used. An official is talking nonsense that contradicts her, so he will resign all his powers, then let him announce his dreams. Otherwise, this is just a game for the public, which is supported by an insignificant part of the population, who do not understand the consequences. Few people support us anyway, and after such an event, even a few neutral countries that have weight in international politics will fence themselves off.
    8. +6
      August 29 2023
      said retired general Gurulev


      Interestingly, there are many such silly people in the Duma, and the former general himself does not want to settle at the site of a nuclear strike?
    9. +2
      August 29 2023
      Zaporozhye and Kherson, DPR, LPR and Crimea are the territories of the Russian Federation, according to the constitution and doctrine of the Russian Federation, it was obliged to inflict nuclear weapons a long time ago
      1. -3
        August 29 2023
        Quote: 501Legion
        Zaporozhye and Kherson, DPR, LPR and Crimea are the territories of the Russian Federation, according to the constitution and doctrine of the Russian Federation, it was obliged to inflict nuclear weapons a long time ago

        Not recognized in the world community of countries.
        1. +2
          August 29 2023
          The world community recognizes only force! Everything else is from the evil one.
    10. 0
      August 29 2023
      Talk about the possible use of tactical nuclear weapons in the course of the Ukrainian conflict has been heard more than once. However, few people seriously spoke about its use.
      . Talk, talk... it would be better if the X hour had never come, but... is it possible to foresee everything, to predict request
      1. -3
        August 29 2023
        Is it possible to foresee everything

        Yes, we'll see, but for now...
    11. -8
      August 29 2023
      i know better...........willing row 1
    12. 0
      August 29 2023
      Andryusha Gurulev is an eccentric with the letter "M". And it held the position of Deputy Commander of the Southern Military District.
    13. 0
      August 29 2023
      According to Andrei Gurulev, deputy of the State Duma of Russia, today the area around the village of Rabotino, which is located in the Pologovsky district of the Zaporozhye region, is an ideal place for using tactical nuclear weapons.

      Use nuclear weapons on the territory of Russia, is he friends with his head? If nuclear weapons are used, then in western Ukraine.
      1. 0
        August 29 2023
        Quote: guest
        According to Andrei Gurulev, deputy of the State Duma of Russia, today the area around the village of Rabotino, which is located in the Pologovsky district of the Zaporozhye region, is an ideal place for using tactical nuclear weapons.

        Use nuclear weapons on the territory of Russia, is he friends with his head? If nuclear weapons are used, then in western Ukraine.


        There are only two geographical locations for the use of nuclear weapons: London, British Isles and Washington, North America.

        But their own, on their own territory? Rave!!!
      2. +2
        August 29 2023
        Gentlemen, maybe for a start, try the "dad of all bombs". And there is no radiation, and there is no need to hide instantly and for 14 days.
        1. -1
          August 29 2023
          Quote from Traktoris
          Gentlemen, maybe for a start, try the "dad of all bombs".

          I'm all for it, but how do I get it to the application area?
    14. +3
      August 29 2023
      According to Andrei Gurulev, deputy of the State Duma of Russia, today the area around the village of Rabotino, which is located in the Pologovsky district of the Zaporozhye region, is an ideal place for using tactical nuclear weapons.

      Campaign "deputy" starred and lost the coast, completely.
      As the Supreme Commander said, only in the event of a military defeat, Russia will use nuclear weapons. And then I doubt that this will happen on the territory of the former USSR.
      Can a deputy himself go to the NVO zone and help the Russian troops in this way, rather than voice any nonsense publicly?
      1. 0
        August 29 2023
        Why is he needed there (in the NWO and in the Duma) - to the dacha until the season is over. In fact, on its own territory, nuclear weapons - this is what you need to think about.
      2. 0
        August 29 2023
        As the Supreme Commander said, only in the event of a military defeat, Russia will use nuclear weapons

        In the event of a military defeat, the possibility of using nuclear weapons will be blocked by the victorious side.
    15. +10
      August 29 2023
      I'm embarrassed to ask - where are our vaunted ten-ton ODABs ??? The explosion in strength they have as from tactical nuclear weapons, radiation and even toxic pollution is zero. So where?
    16. +4
      August 29 2023
      When you read such opuses from the "chosen ones", you involuntarily remember
    17. -4
      August 29 2023
      It’s high time to use it massively, every day our people die and not the rubbish that they dumped over the hill, but the best, ready to defend our people and country, with nuclear strikes you can minimize human losses, solve the issue of Ukrainianism literally in a day, and who is against, well, you only you think about your sofa ass.
    18. -2
      August 29 2023
      why not if there is a large group of APU? and if the West gives them nuclear weapons, this is already World War 3, more than one country will not survive, and they understand this very well because of this they will not let the West destroy their countries for the sake of Ukraine!
      1. 0
        August 29 2023
        Quote: opuonmed
        why not if there is a large group of APU? and if the West gives them nuclear weapons, this is already World War 3, more than one country will not survive, and they understand this very well because of this they will not let the West destroy their countries for the sake of Ukraine!


        Because the only ones who have applied, at the moment in the development of the history of mankind on planet Earth, are the US state.
        Let this shame lie on them forever.
        1. +2
          August 29 2023
          a shame ??????? winners are not judged! example of the United States in Japan, the Japanese do not open their mouths in the United States!
          1. -1
            August 29 2023
            Quote: opuonmed
            example of the usa in japan the japanese do not open their mouths in the usa

            They even thank the United States for dropping a bomb on them.
        2. +1
          August 29 2023
          It’s a shame to fight for years with a shabby 404, It’s a shame that they occupied our Kherson Liman Balakleya, It’s a shame that these terrorists hit our cities every day and the authorities only know how to threaten when they have piles of nuclear weapons, including the old one, which is also at our expense to be disposed of later.
    19. +2
      August 29 2023
      why is this general still not at the front?!!!!!
      1. -1
        August 29 2023
        Because it's stupid to swing wall to wall when you have the deadliest weapon of mankind, and your enemy does not. But honestly". And the "world community" is enough.
        1. -1
          August 29 2023
          it’s stupid to pollute your territory, and yes, after that, everything from chemistry and bacteriology to tactical nuclear weapons will appear in Sumeria
          ps and if after they introduce REAL sanctions, then it won’t seem enough to us
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      3. +1
        August 30 2023
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        why is this general still not at the front?!!!!!

        The psychiatrist did not pass, but in the thought they do not require a certificate.
    20. -7
      August 29 2023
      I propose to allow only those who have been in at least one battle to speak out on the CBO, and write the rest in D'Artagnan.
      1. +5
        August 29 2023
        These are half measures. It should be forbidden to talk about the war to anyone who did not die in it. For the survivors are jerks who did not feel the real tin.
    21. -6
      August 29 2023
      if you use nuclear weapons, then not in Ukraine
    22. +2
      August 29 2023
      This is from drinking on vacation, but is it okay that after that something similar will fly in speed in Donetsk and Bryansk?
      1. 0
        August 29 2023
        From whom? NATO will enter the Third World?
        1. -1
          August 29 2023
          Quote: Roma-1977
          From whom? NATO will enter the Third World?

          Why should they join? They will transfer a certain amount of nuclear weapons as Lend-Lease, and the Ukrainians have already shown that they reach Moscow.
        2. +2
          August 29 2023
          From whom? NATO will enter the Third World?

          In Ukraine there are nuclear physicists and engineers, radioactive materials. In this CBO, each side repeats the successful inventions of the enemy. For example, the geranium UAV was used by the Russian side, but now Ukrainian UAVs are flying to Moscow. And if UAVs arrive in Moscow with radioactive waste?
          The second, even more important consequence of the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Japan and South Korea will immediately acquire nuclear weapons. Japan is the third industrial power in the world after China and the USA, South Korea has the same GDP as Russia and now it follows the US policy. These are formidable enemies in the Far East, and if they arm themselves with nuclear weapons, then draw your own conclusions.
          1. 0
            August 29 2023
            Quote: smart fellow
            From whom? NATO will enter the Third World?

            an even more important consequence of the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Japan and South Korea will immediately acquire nuclear weapons. Japan is the third industrial power in the world after China and the USA, South Korea has the same GDP as Russia and now it follows the US policy. These are formidable enemies in the Far East, and if they arm themselves with nuclear weapons, then draw your own conclusions.

            This is what China fears the most. Most likely, after the use of nuclear weapons, he will try to convince Japan and Korea not to make a bomb, and as proof of his peacefulness, he will introduce such sanctions against Russia that everyone will no longer laugh.
            1. 0
              August 29 2023
              This is what China fears the most.

              What difference does it make who is more afraid? Is Russia not afraid that Japan will have nuclear weapons? After all, we have a territorial dispute over the Kuriles. Thanks to their industrial potential, the Japanese can equalize their nuclear potential with Russia's in a few years and start their own military defense for the return of the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.
          2. -1
            August 30 2023
            You don't quite understand the "dirty bomb" principle. A drone loaded with ten kilograms of nuclear waste is only a psychological factor, but by no means a real threat of any extensive contamination of the territory.
            1. 0
              August 30 2023
              You don't quite understand the "dirty bomb" principle. A drone loaded with ten kilograms of nuclear waste is only a psychological factor, but by no means a real threat of any extensive contamination of the territory.

              Who said that the UAV will be alone and the payload will not be more than 10 kg?
              Here is a quote from Wikipedia
              in December 1950 MacArthur considered using fallout to isolate North Korea

              Those. the Americans wanted to bombard the border between China and North Korea with radioactive sand, 1420 km long, with a strip several kilometers wide. How do you like this example psychological factor?
              The enemy does not need to pollinate 1420 km, it is enough for several dozen UAVs to spray radioactive waste from an effective height (you don’t quite understand that radioactive isotopes in waste are much more dangerous than enriched uranium) and Moscow will become depopulated, everyone who is smart and has the opportunity to scatter.
    23. +5
      August 29 2023
      Gradually loosen the Overton window.
      1. +1
        August 29 2023
        Quote: UAZ 452
        Gradually loosen the Overton window.

        You have the wrong idea about the subject! (With)
        The Overton window cannot be shaken. It can either be expanded or narrowed. hi
    24. 0
      August 29 2023
      Quote: vadimtt
      unlike normal people, in addition to spring exacerbation, there is also autumn ...

      Normal people don't have flare-ups...
    25. +3
      August 29 2023
      Quote from Orange Bigg
      The second difficulty is in constantly changing combat conditions. Due to the fact that new reserves have to plug holes in those sectors of the front where there are no longer mines, Russian commanders may not know who is on their left and who is on their right. This negatively affects the interaction


      communication is the main problem of our Defense Ministry directly on the ground - and it is not being solved in any way, but 1,5 years have already passed ...
    26. -8
      August 29 2023
      Quote: Arkadich
      Having won tactically, Russia will lose strategically

      Yes, we will have to say goodbye to Chinese socks and phones. And with Indian aspirin... And with jeans from Bangladesh...
      1. -1
        August 29 2023
        Quote: Vladimir80
        Quote: Arkadich
        Having won tactically, Russia will lose strategically

        Yes, we will have to say goodbye to Chinese socks and phones. And with Indian aspirin... And with jeans from Bangladesh...
        Alas, the list will be much wider, and the consequences are deeper ...
    27. -1
      August 29 2023
      I see many still do not realize the real impact of tactical nuclear weapons, since the disarmament psychosis of the 80s. The use of tactical nuclear weapons is not an apocalypse and not a mythical "nuclear winter". This is a very local impact on the landscape with a short-term and very weak radioactive contamination of the area. The psychological aspects of the use of nuclear weapons are the main factor in their non-use, and not at all any real arguments. I don't want to upset anyone, but nuclear weapons will inevitably be used in the future. World capitalist contradictions are approaching the point of no return. Don't want to use tactical nuclear weapons? - Then wait for it to be applied to you.
      1. 0
        August 29 2023
        Quote: Roma-1977
        nuclear weapons will inevitably be used in the future.

        Perhaps ... but only against a NON-NUCLEAR state.
        The use of nuclear weapons against a nuclear power will inevitably lead to an escalation of nuclear strikes, up to its unlimited use. And this is a direct road to TMV.
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    30. -5
      August 29 2023
      Just an element of intimidation within the framework of the information war. No more.
      And local experts immediately rushed to talk about the summer exacerbation, or Gurulev's madness. But how! A deputy and a general are a topic, two in one: dumb and even dumber.
      Maybe it's time to stop peddling the topic that we are led by boobies
    31. -1
      August 29 2023
      Quote: BlackMokona
      If the Armed Forces of Ukraine gasp with a nuclear weapon, then they, too, may suddenly have arsenals of similar weapons in the hands of the Mikol Jonesovs.

      Well, that is, you confirm that the towers follow the logic of "a meat grinder in ruins to the last Russian"
    32. -3
      August 29 2023
      It turns out that the deputies are complete idiots. Talking about the nuclear bombardment of Russian territory should be generally weak-minded.
      1. -2
        August 29 2023
        Andrey Viktorovich Gurulev

        Education:
        Moscow Higher Military Command School

        Military Educational and Scientific Center of the Ground Forces "Combined Arms Orders of Lenin and the October Revolution, Red Banner, Order of Suvorov Academy of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation"

        Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

        Rank:
        Lieutenant-General

        Commanded:
        5th Guards Tank Don Budapest Division named after Shchadenko;
        58-th Army

        Do you seriously think that he knows no more about the consequences of the use of tactical nuclear weapons than a student of a parochial school? :)
        1. +1
          August 29 2023
          Do you seriously think that he knows no more about the consequences of the use of tactical nuclear weapons than a student of a parochial school?

          About the military aspects - for sure (during the time of the parochial tactical nuclear weapons, like the strategic nuclear weapons, it was not known, so to understand more of their graduates in this is not great pride), but about the political, psychological, ideological - it seems much less than the average graduate high school, even the USE era.
      2. -1
        August 30 2023
        He works for the other side, gives a reason to make a p_i_n_d_o_s_a_m provocation and blame Russia, referring to such characters.
    33. +4
      August 29 2023
      Quote from Narrator
      The use of nuclear weapons is to sign our helplessness. According to this logic, the US in Vietnam and Korea should have been bombed with nuclear weapons.


      The United States used Agent Orange in Vietnam, which killed 3 million Vietnamese and 150 children. It also affected the US military. The consequences stretched over decades - cancer, contamination of the soil, etc. the application concentration was increased 20 times. Tell the Vietnamese and Japanese about helplessness
    34. -2
      August 29 2023
      Shut up the old senile and don't let him out again.
    35. -1
      August 29 2023
      This general-deputy Gurulyov is completely crazy from fat satiety! fool
      Atu him from the Duma! am
    36. +1
      August 29 2023
      No more pouring Gurulev! Take away toys, deprive sweets. What kind of place is the State Duma?? There, due to the absence of a brain, they select and have a certificate from a mental hospital ??? Well, at least retired ... otherwise you never know, he could get to tactical nuclear weapons
    37. +2
      August 29 2023
      It's good that the alternatively gifted General Gurulev sits in the Duma, and does not participate in the SVO. He would command.
    38. 0
      August 29 2023
      Quote: Thrifty
      Pyotr Koldunov is such a banter? How do you neutralize radiation? Decay products of the same cesium, strontium, will you scoop out buckets? Disperse gamma radiation with a pissing rag ???


      Where is the strontium from? Google thermonuclear reactions: the input is two hydrogen atoms, the output is a helium atom and a neutron. Gamma quanta propagate at the speed of light. They won't wait for you.
    39. 0
      August 29 2023
      They were all gathered there. And on this offensive group was covered with a copper basin

      No need for nuclear. It is enough just to throw thermobarric and just old missiles. We have how many S-200s in our warehouses, send them to their destination, ground to ground ...
    40. +1
      August 29 2023
      Quote: Doccor18
      It is simply shocking the number of people who, in all seriousness, advocate the use of nuclear weapons ... And what will happen to the consequences? They offer to "bang" at the Russian border... All this would be very much approved by the Democrats and their European servants. For all of them, this would be the best scenario: "Forever you can forget about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, because now you can forever trumpet about a nuclear disaster in Ukraine"...
      Shocking, but not so much (we get used to everything). Inadequate and provocative proposals on the use of nuclear weapons completely ignore the moral, military-political and economic consequences of such a step...
      1. -1
        August 30 2023
        He was recruited on a campaign, only from his statements in the Western press they will then raise a fuss. They themselves will arrange a provocation, and then they will refer to this inadequate person, saying that they threatened and used it.
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    43. +2
      August 30 2023
      People who downvote for comments do not understand the consequences of the use of nuclear weapons in the area of ​​the settlement. Robotino. Will these minusers themselves live after nuclear weapons? Of course not. There, the land will not be habitable for many years, plus the risk of an increase in oncology also increases. Do you need this, gentlemen minusers ??? fool
    44. +4
      August 30 2023
      Kapets, he is inadequate, to spite us we will freeze our ears.
      Correctly, he was kicked out of the army, such people cannot be trusted to make decisions.
      In the State Duma, they don’t require a certificate from a psychiatrist, there are so many inadequate people.
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    46. 0
      August 30 2023
      Minus for information: weapons that are not used are inherently useless. This implies the fact that it, nuclear weapons, can be used and most likely will be used, but: and here I do not agree with Mr. Gurulev; not in Rabotino, but: and here I agree with Leonid Tsarev on the CPR, bridges, tunnels, targets that are away from the front line. By destroying the military and political leadership of Ukraine, supply chains, warehouses, and so on (it will take about 100 SBs by eye), we will disrupt command and control, create panic and make it easier for ourselves to break through the front line. Minus.
      1. +1
        August 30 2023
        weapons that are not used are essentially useless.


        We have never actually used intercontinental nuclear missiles. Not from the mines, nor from submarines
        And they have been in service with us since the 50s.
        Does this mean they are useless?
        Or does this mean that they will definitely be used in the future and that a global nuclear war will inevitably happen?

        make it easier for ourselves to break through the front line.


        Break through the front in order to quickly enter the territory contaminated by our nuclear explosions?
        And where will the clouds with nuclear fallout fly, do we already know how to accurately control the winds, or at least predict 100%?
    47. +1
      August 30 2023
      State Duma deputy named the ideal place for the use of tactical nuclear weapons during the NWO

      He has already set up Major General Popov once, and now he is setting up the Russian Federation and who we will turn out to be before our allies and potential ones, including even before the fraternal people of Ukraine itself!
    48. +2
      August 30 2023
      Biomother. Idiot general. Even I, not a military man, understand that using TNW (tactical nuclear weapons) is suicide. NATO is just waiting for a reason to intervene in the conflict. Of course not on the side of the Russian Federation. Ukraine is not a NATO member. But TNW will actually affect the interests of NATO. And then I completely understand them. The use of such weapons against Ukrainians is like shooting grasshoppers from a cannon. This is a sign of weakness. We'll manage without it. Yes, there will be victims. but war without casualties is impossible
    49. -1
      August 30 2023
      It is necessary to use tactical nuclear weapons not in the Russian regions, but in the Western region.
      .
      However. BEFORE THE BOMB, maybe we should try to stop all deliveries to the West, prohibit all transfers there and spend reserves on reindustrialization?
      It is clear that Miller and Nabiulina, for the sake of "their" money, would prefer to bomb Russian soil. Not mine, sorry...
    50. -3
      August 30 2023
      I fully support the deputy, there is a large concentration of Ukrainian troops, it was possible to put a good minus and go on the attack. Why can't you use small tactical charges, they have 10 times more power.
    51. -1
      August 30 2023
      On your territory? Our politicians have abandoned not only the red lines, but also the doctrine of the use of nuclear weapons, although it has long been clear that the conflict has outgrown the Northern Military District in terms of the involvement of countries, it has become a global one, with the entire Western and part of Asia, the world against Russia alone. The fact that we do not use nuclear weapons makes our politicians responsible for the victims of military operations and civilians. Because everyone understands that the war began and continues only thanks to the West’s desire to destroy everything Russian, hatred of Russia and Russians. Where is the doctrine!!!???? We will wait until all active citizens are knocked out and only then... Moscow and its suburbs are attacked by drones almost every day, what is this? Where is the doctrine? It is not necessary to bomb cities in the West; there are many ways to use nuclear weapons, from simple contamination to a strike along the border between Ukraine and Europe. 1000 km every 5-10 km by explosion is 100 charges every week, 10 each. I think after the first one everything will stop. With every day of delay, more and more of our people are dying, and the main leaders and participants, the West, do not suffer any losses, only benefits.
    52. -2
      August 30 2023
      I support you, you need to get excited! When our security - the very existence of Russia - is affected, there is no need to hesitate.
    53. -1
      August 30 2023
      Do you need someone's consent? For strikes, let them prepare the weapon for now, otherwise it may be time to strike. Otherwise, all acts of Good were given to the territory. They are attacking our territory, but the disposal of all forces must be accelerated in order to quickly complete the operation. Why they don't use nuclear weapons is a question. If we hit the west, only nuclear weapons will help. Otherwise, Iskanders are just ordinary zilch.
      Again, the question is, why do we need low-power rockets? Their effect is very low. WE spend chips there. When we could simply make more charges if the speed allows.
      If we need 10 missiles, even for 1 object, then why not hit one big one?
    54. +1
      August 30 2023
      I am surprised at some of those who advocate the use of nuclear weapons, albeit low-power ones. Firstly, tanks not at the epicenter will remain combat effective, and secondly, not only enemy soldiers, and not only the military itself, will suffer from radiation contamination. Wind, groundwater and rain will do their job. Directly radiation sickness and a surge in cancer among the civilian population is not the price for which one would like to get a victory.
      1. -1
        1 September 2023
        But I will ask you this question: without tactical nuclear weapons, the war will continue for a long time and at least 100-200 thousand of our soldiers will die + cripples. And if tactical nuclear weapons are used, the war will quickly end. Many thousands of lives will be saved, including soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, of whom, according to rumors, about 200 thousand have already died. As for radiation, I myself took part in the liquidation of the Chernobyl accident and so far everything is fine. Almost 40 years have passed. And my brother even threw radioactive debris from the roof of the power unit and is alive and seems to have no problems, except for alcoholism, which is unlikely to allow him to live to be 100 years old. And the explosion of a nuclear reactor due to radioactive contamination is worse than the air explosion of 1000 powerful nuclear bombs. In addition, if tactical nuclear weapons are used, it is unlikely that they will be used in cities. And hitting an advancing Ukrainian Armed Forces group with a 5-kiloton air charge would be just the thing. Gurulev knows his stuff. He graduated from military school and academy. Not like some civilian military experts with limited overall development.
        And also about radiation: in Hiroshima and Nagasaki people live without restrictions, although the attack was targeted specifically at the cities. On Novaya Zemlya, a Tsar Bomb of 60 mgt (3 thousand times more powerful) was exploded in the air, but the next day at the epicenter of the explosion the radioactivity was within the acceptable limits for work and the personnel of the testing center carried out examinations and measurements. Dangerous is a ground-based nuclear explosion, which actually contaminates the area, as well as the destruction of nuclear reactors at nuclear power plants, which are even worse.
    55. 0
      August 30 2023
      All those who blaspheme our deputies probably will not deign to tear themselves away from their sofas on the single voting day and vote for someone who is worthy (in their opinion). so grab what you give.
    56. 0
      August 30 2023
      Our State Duma deputies are not responsible for anything and have a purely decorative and propaganda role.
      Their main task is to portray that we have a “separation of powers” ​​and regularly demonstrate unanimous support for the president.

      But unfortunately, there are side effects.
      From constant idleness and regular overly abundant food (and libation), some of them experience some changes in the brain.

      Urgently to the sanatorium! Charcot's shower and long walks can still save this deputy general, valuable to society!
    57. +1
      August 30 2023
      If in the Union during the Vietnam conflict someone had publicly said that it would be nice for the Soviet Army to use nuclear weapons in Vietnam, he would have faced an inevitable fool...

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