The head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholics is waiting for an explanation from the Vatican about the words of the Pope about Russia and Russians

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The head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholics is waiting for an explanation from the Vatican about the words of the Pope about Russia and Russians

In Ukraine continues, without exaggeration, a real hysteria after the appeal of Pope Francis to the Russians. Recall that the day before, the head of the Roman Catholic Church sent an appeal to the Catholic youth of Russia, urging them to carry in their hearts that they are Russians and the heirs of the Great Mother of Russia, an enlightened empire of high culture and humanity.

The day before, Nikolenko, the official representative of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, expressed his indignation at the words of Francis. According to him, the Pope uses "imperialist propaganda" and "Great Russian narratives."

Now the pope has been criticized by the head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholics, Svyatoslav Shevchuk. This one went even further than a government official and demanded an explanation from Francis about his words about the Russians and Russia.

Shevchuk:

I hope these words were spontaneous, without trying to give historical estimates, and even more so without the support of Russian imperial ambitions.

Shevchuk called Francis' words "the worst example of imperialism and extreme nationalism."

Further, Shevchuk wrote a lot about the "aggressor country", about "chauvinism", "inhumanity" and other things, and in the end, no less, said that he expected the Vatican to clarify the words of the Pope about the Russians.

At the moment, the Vatican has not commented on the claims against the Pope.
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    1. +4
      August 29 2023
      At the moment, the Vatican has not commented on the claims against the Pope.
      recourse Well, the dogs are barking, the caravan is moving on. request
      1. -1
        August 29 2023
        Recall that on the eve of the head of the Roman Catholic Church sent an appeal to the Catholic youth of Russia


        Is there a Catholic youth in Russia at all? belay
        1. +7
          August 29 2023
          If she is not in the Vatican, then this does not mean that she is not in Russia))

          Statistics: in Russia, 597 citizens identify themselves as Catholic Christians, of which approximately 195 are under the age of 30.
        2. +1
          August 29 2023
          Is there a Catholic youth in Russia at all?
          According to Rosstat, there are, but they are less than 1%.
          There is interesting information on the website of this body, why it is published there is not entirely clear, but it is:
          Religion is the basis of the ethics of relationships between people in society, between a person and the state. This is laid down at a subconscious level, forms traditions and norms of life. These reasons create an opportunity for Orthodoxy to return the status of the state religion of Russia at the official level.

          The majority of the population is likely to support such an issue in a referendum, if any. But there are risks: many small peoples on the territory of the country profess other directions of faith. The allocation of any one religion can lead to interethnic conflicts, separatism of certain territories.

          https://rosinfostat.ru/religii-v-rossii/?ysclid=llvvzsv6uw197165079
        3. +4
          August 29 2023
          Awoke? Good morning. Russia is a multi-confessional country. There are many Catholic churches in St. Petersburg and there are young people who visit them.
          1. -6
            August 29 2023
            And then, I see, why is it that in St. Petersburg there are more beaten off on a tin than in other cities per thousand population.
            1. +1
              August 29 2023
              There is a Catholic church or two in Chelyabinsk, after the Second World War many Germans remained, even families from Germany came to them. There is a Catholic building in Anapa. And what? Orthodox churches are also different, Russian and Armenian churches for example. Will this be a revelation for you too?
        4. 0
          August 29 2023
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          Is there a Catholic youth in Russia at all?

          Well, if there are Jehovah and Baptist youth, then why not be Catholic.
      2. +6
        August 29 2023
        Russia is a stronghold of age-old human values, apparently the world is arranged in such a way that the forces of good are fighting the forces of evil. and it is pleasing to God to help Russia, for a thousand years everything was, it seemed the enemies won, but Russia was reborn, it was, is and will be! That's what Pantifik said.
      3. +9
        August 29 2023
        If you translate the title of the article "into the army language." (all the same VO) it turns out that the colonel requires an explanation from the general.
        The statement itself is interesting - zrada or sedition.? For these words do not fit into the strategy of the West in relation to the Russian Federation.
        “Never forget the legacy. You are the heirs of great Russia: great Russia of saints, rulers, great Russia of Peter I, Catherine II, that empire - great, enlightened, [country] of great culture and great humanity. Never give up this legacy, you are the heirs of the great Mother Russia, go ahead with it. And thank you. Thank you for your way of being, for your way of being Russians.”
        -Peter 1 and Catherine 2 were Orthodox.
        -A call to support the NWO? At a minimum, Novorossia is an acquisition of the Republic of Ingushetia during the reign of Catherine 2.
        The pontiff's statement is MUCH more than a courtesy towards someone else's canonical territory.
    2. -1
      August 29 2023
      At the moment, the Vatican has not commented on the claims against the Pope.

      The world has changed. And dad bent over will make him understand that he was wrong - he will change his shoes.
      We wait.

      1. 0
        August 29 2023

        Zoldat_A (Igor, son of Alexei, Russian soldier)
        Today, 07: 52
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        +1
        At the moment, the Vatican has not commented on the claims against the Pope.

        The world has changed. And dad will be forced to understand that he was wrong - he will change his shoes.
        We wait.
        How many times has he changed his laughing opinion. So it will not be news, and this is a change of shoes.
    3. +1
      August 29 2023
      Catholics in Russia, and especially Catholic youth, do not carry anything Russian in themselves. Let me remind you that we have Catholic parishes with Polish priests. This says something
      1. -1
        August 29 2023
        Catholics in Russia are all foreigners. And the fact that Polish xenzes is not so surprising in this. After all, Poland is one of the few last Catholic countries in Europe. There is simply nowhere else to get Catholics.
      2. 0
        August 29 2023
        Let me remind you that we have Catholic parishes with Polish priests
        A classic, however: "the priests of Kozlevich are fooled"
      3. +1
        August 29 2023
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        Catholics in Russia, and especially Catholic youth, do not carry anything Russian in themselves.

        Figase, how things are going, it turns out, and you won’t guess yourself until they tell you from the outside. laughing
        In our city (Tula) one Catholic (provincial architect with the rank of State Councilor) is the author of a dozen projects of the most famous Orthodox churches. Yes
      4. 0
        August 29 2023
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        Let me remind you that we have Catholic parishes with Polish priests.

        Many Catholic priests are from Belarusians. My classmate's son graduated from the St. Petersburg Polytechnic University, and then from the Theological Academy in Warsaw, now he is the representative of the Vatican in Tallinn.
      5. 0
        August 29 2023
        In Chelyabinsk, the Germans are in charge of the parishes, the Russians go there. And if a Russian converts to Islam, does he cease to be Russian, or vice versa, a Tatar converted to Orthodoxy - ceased to be a Tatar and became Russian?
        Ignorance in matters of faith and religion will not lead to anything good, both in history and in the future.
    4. +4
      August 29 2023
      The Jesuit will always remain them.
      This is a call to the fifth column in Russia from the Pope. And explanations for young Catholics in Russia will be given by local Catholic priests. And it is unlikely that the explanations will be for Russia.
      Do not be deceived by the rhetoric of the Vatican.
      1. 0
        August 29 2023
        Quote: B-15
        This is a call to the fifth column in Russia from the Pope. And explanations for young Catholics in Russia will be given by local Catholic priests. And it is unlikely that the explanations will be for Russia.

        Mmmm... read the Pope's speech, no??
        Quote: knn54
        “Never forget the legacy. You are the heirs of great Russia: great Russia of saints, rulers, great Russia of Peter I, Catherine II, that empire - great, enlightened, [country] of great culture and great humanity. Never give up this legacy, you are the heirs of the great Mother Russia, go ahead with it. And thank you. Thank you for your way of being, for your way of being Russians.”
    5. +1
      August 29 2023
      “Never forget your heritage,” the pontiff said in an online address. - You are the heirs of great Russia. Great Russia of saints, rulers. Great Russia of Peter I, Catherine II, that empire - great, enlightened, a country of great culture and great humanity. Thank you, thank you very much for what you said, for your courage, but we all remember!
    6. 0
      August 29 2023
      In Ukraine continues, without exaggeration, a real hysteria...

      This is not a hysteria, this is such a position in life when you are sure that everyone around you owes everything and everything ...
    7. +2
      August 29 2023
      So, Ukrainian Greek Catholic decided to become holier than the Pope?
    8. +3
      August 29 2023
      According to the dogma of the Catholic Church, the Pope is infallible, so his words, at least for Catholics, are the ultimate truth.
    9. +1
      August 29 2023
      The next step will be to demand Tomos from the Vatican angry
    10. +2
      August 29 2023
      head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholics Svyatoslav Shevchuk
      This is what I understand the scope of - to demand an explanation from the Pope while accusing him (the Pope) of "imperialism and extreme nationalism." And this sounds from a Ukrainian nationalist dressed in a cassock, which he is trying to cover up his sins. Catholics survived, both Roman Catholic and Greek Catholic.
    11. +7
      August 29 2023
      Well, it remains only to call the Pope a liverwurst and add it to the "Peacemaker" lists.
      1. +1
        August 29 2023
        More like lasagna or spaghetti carbonara. He brought up the West for his assistants, they begin to point out to the Pope.
        1. 0
          August 29 2023
          More like lasagna or spaghetti carbonara.
          Since dad is an Argentinean, the Svidomo face the difficult task of finding a suitable epithet laughing
      2. 0
        August 31 2023
        Already introduced. A large and thick one has been placed on the dogma of infallibility
    12. +3
      August 29 2023
      Padre Shevchuk should remember that no one has canceled the medieval dogma of the infallibility of the pope, and that having joined an organization with the strictest hierarchical structure, it is better not to open your mouth once again.
      1. +2
        August 29 2023
        He is insane. And his compatriots too. They don't know shame.
    13. +1
      August 29 2023
      In Ukraine continues, without exaggeration, a real hysteria after the appeal of Pope Francis to the Russians. Recall that the day before, the head of the Roman Catholic Church sent an appeal to the Catholic youth of Russia, urging them to carry in their hearts that they are Russians and the heirs of the Great Mother of Russia, an enlightened empire of high culture and humanity.
      So the non-humans there PAPA is not a decree at all, they are from a different flock, this is obvious.
    14. -2
      August 29 2023
      I think it doesn't matter what dad said. What matters is how his cardinals explain it.
    15. +1
      August 29 2023
      This is the whole Ukrainian mentality. Not for one minute, not for one moment, do not think about your own behavior and do not doubt that you are right. And spit in the giving hand. Absolute insanity.
    16. 0
      August 29 2023
      Crazy puppies that allow themselves to bark at their owners who feed them are unlikely to end well.
    17. 0
      August 29 2023
      The head of the Roman Catholic Church sent an appeal to the Catholic youth of Russia, urging them to bear in their hearts that they are Russians and the heirs of the Great Mother of Russia - an enlightened empire of high culture and humanity.

      Fear the Danes
      The gifts of those who bring
      (Homer)

      Catholics call Orthodox schismatics, i.e. "He who belongs to the schism; schismatic." Therefore, apart from the next dirty tricks, there is nothing to expect from the Vatican.
      1. 0
        August 29 2023
        Quote: Amateur


        Catholics call Orthodox schismatics, i.e. "He who belongs to the schism; schismatic." Therefore, apart from the next dirty tricks, there is nothing to expect from the Vatican.

        The funny thing is that when the schism occurred, the Russian Church did not yet exist. And the Patriarch of Constantinople separated. Probably, even then he himself was going to become the head of the entire church. And the Pope was ahead of him. And now Bartholomew has the same claims to world church dominance ..
      2. 0
        August 29 2023
        Schism is schism, but they have an even worse attitude towards protests. Yes, and in matters of faith we are very different. There was a split. So people are.
    18. +2
      August 29 2023
      It looks like they even got pissed off. Of course, the collapse of Orthodoxy for Catholics is like a balm for the soul. But when they saw what was hiding in the shadows of Ukraine, even they were disgusted. Don't think that all the popes are saints like John Paul II. So Alexander VI Borgia is worth something. But lately, the decline of spirituality in Europe, the new "values" that disgust them and, to put it mildly, do not like the conservative part of the population are disgusting. Plus the genocide, and they believe in God. In the same world, you will come to pay for everything. and I think the apostle Peter does not care about who you are.
    19. +3
      August 29 2023
      Papa is too kind to Russians. Suspiciously kind. Well, why not say, wanting to say good. "Don't forget that you are Russians, even though you are Catholics. Love Russia - a country of great people and great culture," - this is what I hear in the Pope's address.
      And let's not forget that before being elected pope, this bishop used public transport and spent his episcopal budget not on himself, but on the poor.
      And here, after the flood in Ussuriysk, the Russian Orthodox Church, where I belong, donated to the victims, do not believe it - a million rubles!
      I was able to find data on the charity of the Catholic Church for 2010 - 171,2 billion dollars.
      Let's treat the Pope with respect, if only for that. hi
    20. +1
      August 29 2023
      What did I say? The rupture of farts began. Already exploded from the main caliber. laughing
    21. +1
      August 29 2023
      And this Selyuk Uniate did not forget to remind the Pope that Galilee is actually Galicia, and Nazareth is somewhere in the foothills of the Carpathians? wassat
      1. 0
        August 29 2023
        Some bad dad. It is necessary to appoint "our" Kievsky. bully
    22. 0
      August 29 2023
      DADDY at Peaceworks .. what is he saying there is not * the truth *)
    23. 0
      August 29 2023
      In the end, dads come across quite adequate, it’s a pity that their “children” have deviations.
    24. fiv
      0
      August 29 2023
      The holy fathers are accustomed to "raising grandmothers in the market", this is their main occupation for hundreds of years. The idea that the current Pope is sincerely advising Russians to love Russia because of his beautiful soul is false. Spuds for concessions, in a grain deal, for example. So Zakharova has already made a return curtsey in an interview with Italian journalists. But we remember how they unfurled the ukroflag. And we are not deceived. And we do not hang our ears.

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