“Infrared search systems are useless against Chinese J-20s”: the PRC press appreciated the new equipment of Taiwanese F-16V fighters

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“Infrared search systems are useless against Chinese J-20s”: the PRC press appreciated the new equipment of Taiwanese F-16V fighters

The US has approved a $500 million sale of infrared search and tracking (IRST) systems to equip Taiwan's F-16V fighter jets as a countermeasure against the PLA's latest J-20 stealth fighter.

IRST will improve the F-16V's ability to detect and track targets at long range and greatly improve the effectiveness of air operations, including against the J-20.

- noted in Reuters.



Chinese observers believe that IRST is theoretically capable of detecting "stealth" aircraft because, unlike radar, which uses reflection of radio waves to find targets, it looks for a heat signature that stealth can reduce but not eliminate.

However, in the fight against the J-20, infrared detection systems are useless in real combat, since IRST can only detect targets at a closer range than radar. At the same time, the J-20 can detect the F-16 from a much greater distance using radar.

- evaluated the new equipment of American aircraft in the Global Times.

As explained in the PRC press, in a modern war, individual pieces of equipment cannot win battles. Taiwan's F-16Vs may not even get a chance to take off from airfields before they are destroyed on the ground with precision strikes. Even if they manage to get airborne, the combination of KJ-500 AWACS aircraft, J-20 stealth fighters and PL-15 long-range missiles will not give the F-16V a chance to strike first.

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    1. 0
      August 27 2023
      It is clear that Chinese kakbystells can simply ignore the laws of physics, the optical refraction of light and electromagnetic waves .... laughing fool
      1. 0
        August 27 2023
        Quote: Thrifty
        It is clear that Chinese kakbystells can simply ignore the laws of physics, the optical refraction of light and electromagnetic waves ....

        With language removed. laughing
      2. +3
        August 27 2023
        Signalmen have a course of TED and AFU (technical electrodynamics and antenna-feeder devices) like a strength of materials for mechanics.
        About this joke:
        A professor asks a student: "How does an antenna work?"
        The student draws in with the sound "A" full lungs of air and vigorously exhales "fu-u-u". wassat drinks
        1. HAM
          +1
          August 27 2023
          passed like this twice laughing so let's drink to the "divergence gradient" drinks
      3. +1
        August 27 2023
        ALL thermal imagers have one common drawback - insufficiently accurate determination of the target azimuth. An IDEAL IR camera should have the same view as a moving human eyeball.
        Some 70 km is clearly not enough to counter a fast-flying target.
        And now a little physics - when it is cloudy, the range is reduced.
        The IR stations of the forward view of Russian fighters have a range of only 20 km. They
        they are deprived of a visualization system and see only a spot from the target. Foreign IR containers have a visualization system, they can accurately determine the range to the target and even the type of fighter.
        1. 0
          August 28 2023
          Quote: knn54
          The IR stations of the forward vision of Russian fighters have a range of only 20 km.

          Plenty of nonsense to flog! Su-27 started with OLS with a range of 40 km.
          But the Su-57 (they say) sees NATO aircraft at 70-90 km, which is about 1,5-2,0 times further than it is detected.
          We are talking about the OLS-50M (and the upgraded pilot's helmet), which consists of 6 subsystems...
    2. +2
      August 27 2023
      Silly article. IRST has been applied since the F-4 and MiG-23 on all fighters. By the way, it is also installed on the J-20. The system is passive, does not emit anything - it complements, but does not replace the radar. We are talking about a new version (new generation) of IRST for F-16V. The very submission of information that the f-16 will turn off its radar and fly into battle using only the OLS - this must be able to come up with ...
    3. HAM
      0
      August 27 2023
      It’s even embarrassing to read all these picks of "experts" on both sides ....
      What is the combat experience of the Chinese ??
      1. +1
        August 27 2023
        Quote: HAM
        It’s even embarrassing to read all these picks of "experts" on both sides ....
        What is the combat experience of the Chinese ??


        The capture of the bantustan of Tibet in 1950, filled up with cannon fodder the troops of the UN and South Korea, while they could not push them beyond the 39th parallel, defeated India in 1962, but could not take back South Tibet (1967, defeated by India) and could not finish off Vietnam to end in 1979. A series of conflicts with Taiwan also ended with China sitting at the negotiating table. It is strange that the USSR took pity on Beijing and did not rebuff it in 1969.
    4. 0
      August 27 2023
      There is an active exchange of outrageous blows in the press, which distinguishes the modern "order based on the rules." In real life, hucksters trade with "enemies", there is already a whistle, in a panic, profits increase many times over.
    5. 0
      August 27 2023
      From the article:
      "However, in the fight against the J-20, infrared detection systems are useless in real combat, since IRST can only detect targets from a closer distance than radar."
      ----
      The Su-35 has exactly the same problem against the F-22 and F-35.
      Strong IRST installed on Su-35
      (optical infrared sight, in plain language), but just like the Taiwanese, it can detect targets at a closer range than enemy radar.
    6. 0
      August 28 2023
      Quote: voyaka uh
      From the article:
      "However, in the fight against the J-20, infrared detection systems are useless in real combat, since IRST can only detect targets from a closer distance than radar."
      ----
      The Su-35 has exactly the same problem against the F-22 and F-35.
      Strong IRST installed on Su-35
      (optical infrared sight, in plain language), but just like the Taiwanese, it can detect targets at a closer range than enemy radar.

      As explained in the PRC press, in a modern war, individual pieces of equipment cannot win battles.

      Here, everything seems to have been clarified that the military issue will be resolved comprehensively ... and the ordinary characteristics of some one system can and will give a piece effect ... but successful tactics, strategy and a combination of different types of troops will still win

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