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Ministry of Defense: from diamonds and paintings to a pile of garbage, or the Secrets of the investigation ...

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After loud resignations and no less loud announcements about the scale of corruption in the Ministry of Defense radically changed the political agenda in Russia, the situation turned into a course when emotional outbursts inevitably give way to waiting for a denouement. From the moment when the first information about corruption deals in companies under the control of the Ministry of Defense was leaked to the press, it was such an amount of time that must pass in order to proceed to understanding what is happening.

So, millions of Russians were announced at one time that Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, it turned out, had a whole female regiment, which by hook or by crook filled its pockets with taxpayers' money, then reselling property of the department to affiliated offices, then overpricing the prices of goods for the needs of servicemen, just putting hundreds of millions on some suspicious accounts. Millions of Russians, naturally, vividly reacted to such acute information, which led to a huge public response. A wave of popular anger grew and turned into a real ninth wave, which the painter Aivazovsky once painted on a famous canvas.

The start was impressive: Minister Serdyukov was dismissed; The head of the scandalous Oboronservis, Mrs. Vasilyeva, unexpectedly ached at first, and then, by a court decision, was locked up in her apartment in Molochny Lane; other persons involved in the corruption scandal (Smetanova, Elkin, Zakutaylo, etc.) went to prison during the investigation. The amounts of embezzlement from the ministry’s budget were first assessed at 2, then at 4,5, and now at 7 billion rubles. Some high-ranking state officials even managed to declare that they had long been aware of all these frauds, but had to be silent so that they would not be frightened ... The question is: who? ..

What is today? And today, the Russians, as already mentioned, are in the stage of waiting and their own understanding of the situation. True, we already waited for one result: representatives of the investigation unexpectedly (well, or expectedly) announced that: yes - corruption took place, money, excuse me, tyrili, “bruliki” were bought, real estate went away incomprehensibly and incomprehensibly at what prices, but Only Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov, while many suspect in vain. It was announced that the shura-mura, it turned out, was staged behind him, not devoting his boss to the intricacies of the army's financial "modernization".

Let us suppose. Nobody has canceled the presumption of innocence ... Let us take ourselves in hand and make the assumption that the ex-minister is nevertheless clean like a crystal. But if such an assumption is taken as a basis, then immediately it faces a serious test of strength. This test consists in the readiness of such a person as the accused in the Oboronservis case, Dmitry Mityaev (head of the legal department of MIRA LLC) to testify against Anatoly Serdyukov. Mr Mityaev reported on his readiness, however, after the investigating authorities informed the Russians about the infallibility of the defense minister. Mityaev, according to a number of MediaHe promised to talk about how the ex-minister personally handled the supervision of real estate transactions of the Ministry of Defense, and therefore was well aware of the schemes by which Oboronservis and its numerous substructures worked. But ... This “but” is that Mityaev was “late”, well, or that the investigators “hurried”. Somehow, the investigators did not agree with Mityaev on the question of when he would be allowed to confess. As a result, the statements of the investigators that Serdyukov is not guilty, and Dmitry Mityaev's “frank”, missed each other for a few days. But what is the gap between these statements ...

And now tell me, what will the investigating authorities do now? Why, even a man with two heads doesn’t realize what to do with this Mityaev and all the other “tongues” in such a situation! And since among the investigators working on the case, there are only single-headed employees, then the situation in general turns into a dead-end. Indeed, in the current conditions, it is necessary to recognize either that the ex-minister was quick to announce that the ex-minister was not innocent, or that Mr. Mityaev did not quite correctly assess the role of Anatoly Eduardovich in the implementation of the Oboronservis programs and structures controlled by that. Apparently, the second path for the SC looks more appropriate. But only this path is capable of stirring up the public rethinking the situation with a new force. Although we will not make a sacred cow out of the public, if only because we have her waving, it does not always lead to an increase in the pace of work of competent persons in the right and prompting direction.

The other day, Alexander Bastrykin, the head of the Investigative Committee, personally had to intervene in the case, the task of which today, most likely, is not even digging the land in order to find irrefutable evidence on a sensational corruption case, but to calm the public itself. In general, the head of the RF IC in the framework of appeasement of particularly zealous and thirsty landings (that is, many) took and stated quote:

“We cannot just say that these women (talking about Yekaterina Smetanova and Evgenia Vasilyeva) and Anatoly Serdyukov stole something. I put the task before the investigators to conduct a number of examinations in order to make a conclusion about the offense. ”


Further more impressive:

“Or maybe, on the contrary, they will say that such was the market situation: let's not forget that there are a number of controversial legal issues, such as the sale of real estate at a certain cost.”


Let us note that Alexander Ivanovich, in fact, all of us give us to understand how our expectations can end. After all, the New Year holidays can pass, then a few more months, the experts will work on the case as closely as possible, and the result will come to light: all transactions fully corresponded to market conditions. What is not an option? .. Will these public eat? - Probability that is close to absolute ...

Well, in the meantime, investigators delve into the complexity of financial operations that can present the country and the facts of the complete absence of the perpetrators in this case, the Ministry of Internal Affairs decided to insert its “two pennies” into the emerging scandal. On website of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation material has appeared that tells that former employees of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, as well as a number of current ones, caused damage, no less, even 30 billion rubles!

This is a plus to those 7 billions appearing in the scandalous epic. The Interior Ministry believes (again, only they assume) that high-ranking officials of the Ministry of Defense may also be involved in organizing an illegal landfill in the territory of one of the capital's water intakes ... Lieutenant-General Ivanov (Valery Ivanov), first deputy commander of the military space troops. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it was he who entered into questionable contracts with a commercial organization that was supposed to carry out restoration work on the territory of one of the military units. Instead of restoration work, the company decided to turn the territories obtained into use into a banal dump, which still exists today. It was the dump, according to the staff of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, that caused damage to soils and forest lands for a total amount of 30 billion rubles.

How is Valery Ivanov’s activity suitable for corruption? - no one will say, but, as they say, a lot of rubbish to the “brillians” and canvases in Yevgenia Vasilyeva’s apartment can be an impressive logical addition ...
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  1. volcano
    volcano 25 December 2012 08: 41
    +88
    Well, if it suddenly turns out that EVERYTHING IS Innocent, then Putin can forget about any support from the people. This is just some kind of circus.
    1. NSG42
      NSG42 25 December 2012 08: 55
      +9
      volcano,
      And what does Putin have to do with it?, Maybe we’ll start with the prime minister. Anyway, they really will leave their in trouble. After all, he knows a lot. And if you drive, then you need to block the border and send them to Chukotka, roll stones.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 December 2012 08: 58
        +45
        Quote: NSG42
        And what does Putin have to do with it?, Maybe we’ll start with the prime minister.

        Putin in our country can see NOBODY, everything is ruled by Medvedev, he doesn’t allow the investigation to punish thieves. You are not embarrassed by Putin’s recent interior where he talked about the Serdyukov case and what he said.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 25 December 2012 09: 09
          +21
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Putin in our country can see NOBODY, everything is ruled by Medvedev, he doesn’t allow the investigation to punish thieves. You are not embarrassed by Putin’s recent interior where he talked about the Serdyukov case and what he said.

          the bull's eye!!!
          So, people made the brains that they have a powerful confrontation)))))) because Medvedev is a strong liberal and does not give Putin any work at all)))))))))))
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 December 2012 09: 23
            +11
            Quote: Yarbay
            because Medvedev is a strong liberal and does not work at all for Putin)))))))))))

            Hi Alibek, Medvedev has a power that even Putin cannot cope with. Many people have warmed their hands and continue to heat up the reform and 20 trillion.
            1. military
              military 25 December 2012 09: 53
              +7
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Medvedev has a power that even Putin cannot handle.

              gray cardinal, not otherwise ... laughing
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 25 December 2012 10: 12
                +7
                Quote: military
                gray cardinal, not otherwise ..

                I think their * confrontation * will last a very long time)))))
                And when they cease to believe this, there will appear all sorts of balances like Yeltsin)))))))))
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 25 December 2012 09: 10
          +17
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Putin in our country can see



          Sasha and all this performance, read the phrase " millions of Russians at one time announced"That is, everything has its time, and Serdyukov is part of a play called" the fight against corruption ", well, in which country will a furniture dealer be the Minister of Defense? Only where there is no army, or will not ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 December 2012 09: 26
            +6
            Quote: Vadivak
            Sasha yes the performance is all this,

            Hi Vadim, if everything written in the article is true, then most likely yes. We are sitting down below and don’t see how much and who are spinning around. First we drove all the planes to several airfields, now they will begin to shove across the country, and this is billions! Seek someone profitable hi
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 25 December 2012 09: 35
              +4
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              We are sitting down here and don’t see how much and around whom they revolve.


              Hi Sasha, well, some of the knowledge falls into our possession, but to some extent
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic 25 December 2012 10: 17
            +15
            Quote: Vadivak
            "millions of Russians were told in due time,



            That free cheese is only in a mousetrap. But you need to fight to the KRC. Mood boosting demotivator

        3. speedy
          speedy 25 December 2012 23: 06
          +4
          Don't you think, dear ones, that everything that happens is fundamentally reminiscent of the prelude of 37 (in the good sense of the word), whom Stalin could then rely on in the fight against the 5th column?, Only on the masses of the people, the widest! It was for this that he brought to the nationwide review the dog dump of the "old Bolsheviks", they dumped all the dirt on each other, and the people ofonar, and when he realized who he was dealing with, he demanded the execution of the mad dogs of the Revolution. The people DEMANDED, and Stalin did everything according to the law - the courts were public, even with a live broadcast on the radio. Too great forces were behind these figures (both external and internal). You must understand, Serdyukov and his girlfriends are not the main figures in this matter, there is a big game here and the fate of Russia is at stake, the question of gaining true sovereignty, sovereignty from the yoke of the supranational financial oligarchy, for which the United States, NATO, the IMF, the bogies are just a tool. Now in the Russian elite there is a relative balance between "patriots" and "compradors", which is intolerable further, the time has come to clean up the ranks and society must understand that this is vital ... Did you watch the film "Berezovsky" on Sunday? , I remember those times very well ... in general, as in one song: "in their field as underground workers", this is about those who are dragging Russia from ... ma. Think guys.
          1. Strategia
            Strategia 26 December 2012 15: 32
            -1
            Right! Berezovsky is Trotsky today! But can one say about Putin that he is Stalin today? Stalin positioned all actions as a blessing for the people, indicated goals, milestones and the time of their achievement and carried them out. And now? Putin on Energy Day said that 50 billion (if memory serves) will be given to the development of energy in Siberia and the Far East, but not a word, on what facilities, in what time frame, to provide specific settlements and economic facilities. The same option as with MO!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 December 2012 08: 56
      +32
      "I set the task for the investigators to conduct a series of examinations to conclude an offense."
      When under the sign 60 I flew 110, it was an offense, and when people steal billions, this is a crime !!!
      Here on the site, some assured that everything would be brought to court and even terribly minus all my comments with the phrases -And Suddenly.
      If what is stated in the article turns out to be true, at least someone on the website will turn their tongue to say that Putin is not up to date.
      1. borisst64
        borisst64 25 December 2012 09: 20
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Zadolbala this family ..

        Exactly. We recall who Serdyukov’s wife is and think about the reaction of the deceived wife.
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 25 December 2012 09: 32
        +20
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .This family was scolded ..


        Good morning everyone! I would say clannishnesswhen managers are selected not for professional or even bureaucratic career reasons but only for reasons personal devotion the ruling clan.
        When power is easily converted into property with the subsequent legitimization of this property, such phenomena will continue. In the same Roscosmos, the kickbacks and laundering of budget money are much less than that of storekeepers and supply managers of the married couple of the Ministry of Defense. However, there is peace and quiet, and God's grace. As for those under investigation and house arrest ... that the State Duma is amending the law, which says that the period of detention (in jail) should not exceed 18 months, now it is proposed to insert a clause on house arrestIt’s no coincidence that the lawmakers apparently took care
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 December 2012 09: 41
          +2
          Quote: Ascetic
          the State Duma is an amendment to the law, which says that the period of detention (in the pre-trial detention center) should not exceed 18 months, now it is proposed to add a paragraph on house arrest

          Hi Stanislav, and who made the amendment, is there infa?
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 25 December 2012 10: 15
            +4
            Hello Sasha! In the news, infa went everywhere .. For example here
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 25 December 2012 10: 19
              +7
              Quote: Ascetic
              In News, info went everywhere

              Soon they will introduce a law such as Ten years of home imprisonment conditionally. Under the beloved, they push the law.
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic 25 December 2012 10: 36
                +8
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Soon they will introduce a law such as “Ten years of home imprisonment conditionally.


                Well, almost something like that. For example, Medvedev, being the President, just introduced all the amendments currently in force in the CPC.

                Today, the changes initiated in the Code of Criminal Procedure initiated by the president and already entered into force look like this:
                - Amendment to Article 107 of the Code of Criminal Procedure - introduces house arrest as a preventive measure;
                - Amendment to Article 90 - obliges investigators and prosecutors to recognize decisions of civil and arbitration courts in their criminal case without additional verification;
                - Articles 173 and 171 of the Criminal Code - excluded from the criminal code (the first provided for liability for pseudo-entrepreneurship; the second for illegal business). The repeal of Article 171 contributed in particular to the completion of the criminal prosecution of Mikhail Gutseriev;
                - Article 174 on the “legalization of criminal proceeds” - economic crimes are excluded from the grounds for its application (earlier recognition of any violations in the business would automatically entail the recognition of proceeds of crime);
                - Articles 169 and 193 - the amount of damage considered to be large has been increased. And officials for attempting to impede legitimate entrepreneurial or other activities face punishment from a large fine to deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions for up to three years;
                - Article 108 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation– excludes the possibility of detention of entrepreneurs on suspicion or charge of fraud, misappropriation or embezzlement, causing property damage by fraud or breach of trust, if these crimes are committed in the field of entrepreneurial activity; provides for the possibility of bail.


                So I don’t want to steal, but there’s nothing for you.
                1. sasha127
                  sasha127 25 December 2012 16: 02
                  +2
                  And as a result, we have a country of not frightened thieves.
                  1. Ascetic
                    Ascetic 25 December 2012 16: 21
                    +4
                    Quote: sasha127
                    And as a result, we have a country of not frightened thieves.


                    Effective managers in the field of illegal entrepreneurship, according to the amendments to the Criminal Procedure Code. Or specialists in misappropriation of budget funds, innovative marketing in the field of fraudulent technologies, as well as "workers" of the specialty of "haulers" and "sawmills" of dough.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 25 December 2012 09: 46
          +6
          Quote: Ascetic
          Good morning everyone!

          And you.

          Quote: Ascetic
          but only based on personal allegiance to the ruling clan.


          So all the rulers think, and they will sell all one at the very first occasion, as Madame Leasing is a member (excuse the pun) of the Supreme Council of the United Russia All-Russian Political Party.
          Quote: Ascetic
          now it is proposed to introduce a paragraph on house arrest


          At the same time, cooks, servants, chauffeurs, and other non-humans will serve their arrest
        3. Yarbay
          Yarbay 25 December 2012 10: 08
          +3
          Quote: Ascetic
          the State Duma is an amendment to the law, which says that the period of detention (in the pre-trial detention center) should not exceed 18 months, now it is proposed to add a paragraph on house arrest

          You know the most frightening thing was that there were people who committed much less dangerous crimes and did much less damage to the state and were in jail, and not under house arrest!
          Take the same Magnitsky and compare what he was suspected of and sat in a pre-trial detention center and the current persons involved in the case !!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 December 2012 10: 21
            +6
            Quote: Yarbay
            Take the same Magnitsky

            Alibek, but Magnitsky’s surname is highly politicized, here others are sitting in a pre-trial detention center stole a mobile phone. The gravity of a crime in our country does not matter, everyone decides the connection.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 25 December 2012 10: 26
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              , yes surname Magnitsky is highly politicized

              Sanya is just his surname is well known so he gave an example !!
              Power itself amers and in your liberals gives reason to spread rot !!
          2. 11Goor11
            11Goor11 25 December 2012 12: 47
            +1
            Yarbay
            there were people who committed much less dangerous crimes and did much less damage to the state and were in jail, and not under house arrest!
            Take the same Magnitsky


            Alibek here, it's not so simple
            According to the most modest and just got into the press details, Browder was involved in the theft of more than 32 billion dollars from Russian citizens.

            http://red-army-1917.livejournal.com/22467.html
            So Magnitsky and Browder, for whom he worked, seem to have stolen the most.
            Here is very interesting, read to the end:
            http://red-army-1917.livejournal.com/22706.html
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 26 December 2012 19: 27
              +1
              Quote: 11Goor11
              http://red-army-1917.livejournal.com/22467.html
              So Magnitsky and Browder, for whom he worked, seem to have stolen the most.
              Here is very interesting, read to the end:
              http://red-army-1917.livejournal.com/22706.html

              Dear Andrew!
              If so, let them conduct an investigation, attract independent experts and put it in the nose of the West !!
              The officials who have warmed up on this matter may be held accountable, as it should be !!
        4. Yarbay
          Yarbay 25 December 2012 12: 50
          +4
          Quote: Ascetic
          I would say clanism when leaders are selected not for professional or even bureaucratic career reasons, but only for reasons of personal loyalty to the ruling clan.

          This is a disaster !!
          And everywhere, not only in Russia !!
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 25 December 2012 13: 11
            +7
            Quote: Yarbay
            This is a disaster !!
            And everywhere, not only in Russia !!


            Any system of power, even the most monarchy possible, would only be based on the trust of the subjects and be legitimate in their eyes. For example, the Tsar is the anointed of God, and the master is the master. And when the government upsets the existing balance, it begins to steal, deceive, engage in lawlessness, act in the eyes of the people not fair it loses legitimacy, that is, the rule of law.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 25 December 2012 14: 25
              +2
              Quote: Ascetic
              And when the government upsets the existing equilibrium, it begins to steal, deceive, engage in lawlessness and act unjustly in the eyes of the people, it loses legitimacy, that is, rule of law.

              Absolutely right!!!
              Quote: Ascetic

              Any system of power, even the most monarchy possible, would only be based on the trust of the subjects and be legitimate in their eyes.

              This is also true and the more uneducated and immoral the master, the more his clones around him !!
              I paid attention often subordinates try to be like superiors and even believe gait changes and habits !!!
      3. Jin
        Jin 25 December 2012 12: 08
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .This family was scolded ..


        Alexander, welcome! Yesterday I watched a press conference with GDP ... this is really a circus! It seems that he is mocking just ((((So to answer questions about Serdyuk, just at least not correctly !!!
    3. military
      military 25 December 2012 09: 51
      +4
      Quote: volkan
      Well, if it suddenly turns out that EVERYTHING IS Innocent

      and you still doubt that this is exactly how it will "turn out"? ... belay
    4. Jin
      Jin 25 December 2012 12: 12
      +2
      Quote: volkan
      This is just some kind of circus.


      Plus! Only one thing I can not agree with! This is not SOME circus, but a circus of professionals of the highest level, with an absolutely exclusive program! (((IMHO similar "numbers" in any civilized country of the planet, to put it mildly, would be ashamed to get up! At least the entire government would resign (
    5. Dr. No
      Dr. No 25 December 2012 13: 04
      +3
      And by the way, do not forget whose son-in-law this is ... The saddest thing is that this is not a fight against corruption, but an ordinary family quarrel, where the father-in-law decided to defend his daughter's honor .... After all, the "greats" are also not alien to human experiences ... And on the first place, unfortunately, was not the theft of state money, but banal revenge ... They would steal further and no one even blinked an eye, just a sense of revenge leaped up ...
    6. Botanologist
      Botanologist 25 December 2012 17: 25
      +1
      Let the GDP determine what is dearer to him - his reputation or Taburetkin with his woman. For it cannot be combined in any way, the President’s reputation with Serdyukov is incompatible.
    7. rate
      rate 25 December 2012 17: 51
      0
      I think Putin is simply afraid to start. After all, even such a titan as Stalin, the apparatus ate as soon as he sensed a danger to himself. And then what? Danger to thieves.
    8. mike_z
      mike_z 25 December 2012 19: 05
      0
      Quote: volkan
      PUTIN can forget about any support from the people

      It’s true, but ...
      he himself understands that real support is lower than ostentatious. But what's the point? And EdRo like a few Russians. And also - what's the point? They are still in power. This is the paradox.
    9. starshina78
      starshina78 25 December 2012 20: 46
      +3
      And it will be so, except for Putin. This one will appear on TV, frown, promises to continue the fight, although he will not specify with whom, and against whom, and against what, and will immediately give the command to the Investigative Committee, the Prosecutor's Office to investigate. The people will perceive this as - here he is our leader, formidable, and just, and immediately forgets that Serdyukov left criminal punishment, Vasilyeva left for England (Spain, Cyprus, or somewhere else). Investigative Committee, the Prosecutor's Office will immediately report that Udaltsov, Navalny and Sobchak met with the resurrected Hitler, Goebels and Mussolini and discussed the possibility of an attack on Russia by other forces, about which a film will be released on NTV with footage of this meeting. The people will immediately forget about everything and about Serdyukov, and about Oboronservis, and how Putin spoke menacingly about this case. Moderator! Again you will put "delete" under my comment. I alone am rewarded with this. And you delete the comments yourself and move them to the basement. Do you think my comments are so dangerous? You are a hypocrite, claiming that the site has freedom of expression!
    10. APASUS
      APASUS 25 December 2012 21: 10
      +7
      Quote: volkan
      This is just some kind of circus.

      Is not it so! Everyone understands that without Serdyukov Vasiliev could not have lifted a finger, and his name is not mentioned at all with this case! Despite the fact that on some documents there is a signature of the minister himself, for example, the sale of a fuel terminal in the Murmansk region, it turns out that the clowns are in charge of the director!
      1. Combitor
        Combitor 26 December 2012 13: 51
        -1
        If everything that has happened in the last 13 years would have been happening in China (can you dream up?), Then after the trials and the enforcement of sentences against thieves-ministers, state officials and the president and prime minister who patronized them, it would be necessary to specially equip a huge new cemetery, as it was required to dig an incredibly large number of graves. But then in China ... There is also corruption. But they fight her and shoot her for her. And our thieves don't care. Our Russian stinking power is so mired in theft itself that it is time to send a firing squad to the Kremlin and put it against the wall of the All-Russian Fuhrer himself, and then further, along the vertical of power he himself created. And our people habitually swallow that d ... mo that our rulers put in a bowl and in kitchens in the heat of righteous anger throw thunder and lightning on the heads of Serdyukov, Golikova, Skrynnik and many others. What's the point? And where is the result? Power will not surrender its own. Moreover, Serdyukov would not exist without Putin. As ministers stole, they will continue to steal. They have a "roof" - the All-Russian Fuhrer and those who govern him. And every time our population of the plundered country will be shoved with another bowl of lies to calm their nerves and the ability to speculate.
  2. Yves762
    Yves762 25 December 2012 08: 42
    +5
    The circus burned down, but the clowns remained ....
    1. Ross
      Ross 25 December 2012 09: 23
      +3
      Yves762,
      These clowns have now set us all against themselves.
      All serious astrologers said that Putin will not sit for more than three years. That is his fate.
      Very well now it is already visible. His obvious support for the failed Serdyukov still comes around.
  3. Normal
    Normal 25 December 2012 08: 46
    +12
    In my opinion, it is obvious that the effect of the scandal in the Moscow Region exceeded the expectations of its organizers. Now the case will be blabbed, buried under the mass of such corruption scandals and put on the brakes. Performers will be imprisoned, and Serdyukov with his passion will get off with a slight fright.
    Everything remains the same, Putin does not create his own
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 25 December 2012 09: 01
      +6
      Quote: Normal
      that the effect of the scandal in Moscow Region exceeded the expectations of its organizers. Now the matter will be blabbed

      In my opinion to the point of Vladimir. Not surprising.
    2. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 25 December 2012 09: 20
      +8
      Normal
      Quote: Normal
      Now the case will be blabbed, buried under the mass of such corruption scandals and put on the brakes.

      Yes, we have been accustomed to this already.

      "The large-scale case of a network of underground casinos in the Moscow region has actually collapsed, and all of its suspects are at large. Last year, Nazarov and Mamyev, as well as the former head of the investigation department of the Moscow region prosecutor's office, Dmitry Urumov, were released from custody. ex-prosecutor of Noginsk Vladimir Glebov, prosecutor of the Odintsovo district Roman Nishchemenko, former prosecutor of Serpukhov Oleg Bazylyan, ex-prosecutor of Klin Yevgeny Kaplun, as well as officers of the Central Internal Affairs Directorate of the Moscow region Dmitry Akulin, Farit Temirgaliev and Mikhail Kulikov were released. only ex-Deputy Prosecutor of the Moscow Region Alexander Ignatenko. However, on February 9, 2013, his term of arrest will expire and he may also be released. "
      The original of this material
      © "Izvestia", 24.12.2012


      "... The Interior Ministry thinks ..." (quote from the article) Chago, chago? ... Who is tama "banging"? Ministry of Internal Affairs?
      Please, they have, by the way, too "small"scandal.
      “The whole country, with bated breath, is watching the cannonade at the Ministry of Defense: a new corruption scandal explodes here almost every day.

      Against this background, scandals that shook another power department, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, quietly receded into the shadows. Although where they stole more - the question is open. Procurement in both ministries was put on a systematic corruption basis.

      Over the past two years alone, the volume of doubtful contracts concluded by the rear department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs has exceeded 20 billion rubles. And this is far from the limit!

      But for some reason, the main persons involved in the army scandals (with the exception of Serdyukov) have already been taken under arrest. And their colleagues from the Ministry of Internal Affairs completely get off with a slight fright: maximum - dismissal. "
      "Technical counter-revolution of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
      At a price of 20 ", Kompromat.ru, 000


      Every ministry is a "little" scandal. Trivial ... BILLION.
      At the same time, our brains are "dirty" with "lists" ... well, well ...
    3. Soldier
      Soldier 25 December 2012 13: 01
      +2
      Well, damn it, really, shit doesn’t sink, And so I want to drown !!!
  4. lechatormosis
    lechatormosis 25 December 2012 08: 46
    +5
    HOW TO THE FAMOUS FILM
    VASILIEVA ...... innocent YAYAAYA he himself came
  5. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 25 December 2012 08: 49
    +9
    In the meantime, numerous examinations are underway, Mityaev will suddenly die of whooping cough.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 December 2012 09: 03
      +6
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Mityaev suddenly dies of whooping cough.

      Witnesses do not live long
      1. Jin
        Jin 25 December 2012 12: 15
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Witnesses do not live long


        Agreeing to testify, he signed himself a verdict .... whooping cough! Okay, at least not polonium (((
      2. adolph1
        adolph1 25 December 2012 22: 54
        0
        most likely a seagull with polonium!
    2. Maximars
      Maximars 25 December 2012 14: 06
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Vladimir Today, 08:49 new 0 
      In the meantime, numerous examinations are underway, Mityaev will suddenly die of whooping cough.

      I think he will simply give up his testimony.
  6. old rocket man
    old rocket man 25 December 2012 09: 01
    +18
    Yeah, and the examination will show that they didn’t find bruliks, but even Czech jewelry at all, and the money was not real, but souvenir, they simply did not immediately see that the other side was clean.
    This is liberalism in action, drug addicts need to be treated, prostitutes should be spared, and thieves are not at all guilty: -Why did you leave your property in sight ?, so they, poor things, could not resist.
    Everyone is on fire, and the Investigative Committee, too, to transfer the case to the FSB-ALL BASES ARE AVAILABLE, there is evidence of an undermining of the state’s defense.
    I think, he stole, did not steal, and Serdyukov should sit am
    1. military
      military 25 December 2012 10: 05
      +5
      Quote: Old Rocketman
      the examination will show that they found not bruliks, but even Czech jewelry at all, and the money was not real, but souvenir, they simply did not immediately see that the other side was clean.

      That's right ... Madame Vasilyeva mastered crafts from glass beads, and tolls in their free time haggled with them at the bazaar ... laughing
    2. Simon
      Simon 26 December 2012 20: 59
      0
      And better, as in China.
  7. sefirs
    sefirs 25 December 2012 09: 06
    +32
    Comrades servicemen!
    In the Internet, I found a nice poem about our hero:


    He cannot shoot accurately
    There are no reforms, no ideas,
    Only grandmas cuts hard
    And he divorced in Moscow b ... dei.


    No tear, no emotion
    Throwing open his uniform and mouth
    Masters of Pleasure
    They ruin the army and navy.


    Well, if the enemy comes,
    To Russia lime,
    Taburetkin will become with them
    Shaking terribly with skirts.


    Great drop in morals
    In a pack of Siberian Pachan,
    Third Grade Power
    Our country will be with him.


    There isn’t him sweeter and more beautiful -
    Praise the thief sidekick,
    The place of the gang is at the bucket,
    Collect everything from them penniless.
    1. sniper
      sniper 25 December 2012 15: 23
      +4
      It would be funny if it weren’t in our country ... And so, it hurts to tears, but we hoped ... Only personal greed, only rotten interests ... Guys, us again nae... soldered ...
  8. Yarbay
    Yarbay 25 December 2012 09: 07
    +17
    **** Nobody canceled the presumption of innocence ... Let us pull ourselves together and make the assumption that the ex-minister is still pure like a crystal. *** -Even so, the minister still showed negligence and irresponsibility !!
    And this is also a crime under the Criminal Code !!
    Having at hand the whole institute of financial inspectors and supervisory services, not being able to discern a crime ??
    Moreover, he used to work in the tax and knows perfectly well what and how much it costs !!
    1. military
      military 25 December 2012 10: 07
      +5
      Quote: Yarbay
      let’s make the assumption that the ex-minister is still clean like a crystal. ***

      ... Alchen stole - and he was ashamed ... recourse
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 25 December 2012 10: 29
        +8
        Quote: military

        ... Alchen stole - and he was ashamed

        So it was a shame))) and this one also spends the night with the suspect, who unscrupulously deceived him))))))))))))))
        Apparently loves to be cheated)))
        Masochist))
        1. military
          military 25 December 2012 11: 18
          +3
          Yarbay, hi
          Quote: Yarbay
          this one also spends the night with the suspect, who unscrupulously deceived him))))))))))))))

          soul mates... laughing
        2. Jin
          Jin 25 December 2012 12: 17
          +3
          Quote: Yarbay
          So it was a shame))) and this one also spends the night with the suspect, who unscrupulously deceived him))))))))))))))
          Apparently loves to be cheated)))
          Masochist))


          Hi Alibek! Well done! good
  9. andrey903
    andrey903 25 December 2012 09: 08
    +11
    I won’t be surprised that soon the case of rape of Serdyukov by Mrs. Vasilyeva will appear. What an honest investigation can be expected from the Czech data Bastrykin. And in the future we are waiting for the list of Mityaev from the Americans
    1. Normal
      Normal 25 December 2012 09: 22
      +3
      Quote: andrey903
      there will be a case of rape of Serdyukov by Mrs. Vasilyeva
      It won’t be like that. At the rumor level (and rumors from the tsar’s chambers) there is information that immediately after the search Vasilyeva Serdyukov rushed to the GDP and crawled on his lap from the door of the cottage. He begged not to destroy, since his beloved was on demolition. Vasilieva went to the hospital and did IVF. So these two will not be imprisoned, but the rest of the khan
  10. navigator
    navigator 25 December 2012 09: 24
    +3
    This is not even funny! Please note that the reform was carried out, just in order to sell real estate and without the knowledge of Serdyukov they could not even sneeze, and who sneezed was swept out by a rotten broom from the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. bully
    1. vadimN
      vadimN 25 December 2012 13: 24
      +6
      Quote: navijfiser
      the reform was carried out, just in order to sell real estate and without the knowledge of Serdyukov they could not even sneeze,


      It should be added that Serdyukov himself would not have dared to do this without strong support from above. I think the "go-ahead" for theft was given by the prime minister and the president. I have no doubts in this version, because despite all the "democracy", in our country big things are not done without the knowledge of the first person ..
  11. Apollo
    Apollo 25 December 2012 09: 27
    +3
    quote-After loud resignations and no less loud announcements of the scale of corruption in the Ministry of Defense radically changed the political agenda in Russia, the situation turned into a trend when emotional outbursts inevitably give way to the expectation of a denouement.

    1. I think that law enforcement agencies are waiting for a command from above and, depending on the reaction of the society, will act.
    2. My forecast will let things go on the brakes, as was the case more than once, using the character from the famous film "12 chairs" - "they will get off with a slight fright!"
    1. military
      military 25 December 2012 10: 14
      +2
      Quote: Apollon
      1. I think that law enforcement agencies are waiting for a command from above and, depending on the reaction of the society, will act.

      to the reaction of society to these "bodies" to * host and grind ... and the command, presumably, has long been received ... recourse
      Quote: Apollon
      2. my forecast will let things go on the brakes

      as befits obedient "bodies" - strictly in accordance with the command of the owner ... request
      1. vadimN
        vadimN 25 December 2012 13: 25
        +2
        Quote: military
        as befits obedient "bodies" - strictly in accordance with the command of the owner ...


        ... not in accordance with the law. We build the rule of law, damn it ....
        1. military
          military 25 December 2012 14: 18
          +1
          Quote: vadimN
          We build the rule of law, damn it ....

          illusion as a result of manipulating consciousness ... winked
  12. KamikadZzzE1959
    KamikadZzzE1959 25 December 2012 09: 33
    +7
    Circus and only. It turns out that the army and the Moscow Region are not the same thing.
    If an accident occurs in a company, the emergency company flies off immediately. Depending on the nature of the emergency, the battalion commander and the regiment. It’s clear, they didn’t overlook it. We overlooked it. the charter clearly defines who is responsible for what.
    And in the Moscow Region, it seems, they adhere to the principle: go there I don’t know where, bring it, I don’t know what. What kind of a boss is this that does not know what his lodged people are doing? Is he deaf and dumb? People, Voros to the backfill! HOW DOES HE PASS THE MEDICAL COMMISSION? GOLIKOV ON A BLAT HELPED AN OPPORTUNITY OF AN ANSWER
  13. Svarog
    Svarog 25 December 2012 09: 35
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I set the task for the investigators to conduct a series of examinations to conclude an offense. ”When I flew under the sign 60, 110 was an offense, and when people steal billions, this is a crime !!!

    Exceeding the speed almost 2 times allowed, you become a real criminal! What, nafig, this is an offense. Add that you were drunk at the same time .. Putin is to blame for this, of course.
    PS If anything, plus 1 post volkan'a
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 December 2012 09: 48
      +6
      Quote: Svarog
      Having exceeded the speed almost 2 times allowed, you become a real criminal!

      VAC, do not scare yes.
      Quote: Svarog
      add that you were drunk at the same time ..

      May I add that I am a drug addict and I travel only under kaif fool
      Quote: Svarog
      Putin is to blame, of course

      No, no, no, of course NO. Medvedev is to blame for everything, he does not allow Putin to fight corruption. PS If anything, I added 1 post volkan'a
      Yes, plus at least someone, your business.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 25 December 2012 09: 49
      +8
      Quote: Svarog
      Exceeding the speed almost 2 times allowed, you become a real criminal!


      Drivers know many other places where signs are set by the traffic police solely for personal enrichment, so who is the offender still need to understand
  14. perun645
    perun645 25 December 2012 09: 58
    +7
    Serdyukov and the Oboronservis case is a small episode in the crime of the ruling regime, showing once again an inextricable connection in the ruling thieves' kagal
  15. Per se.
    Per se. 25 December 2012 10: 01
    +4
    What is there to be surprised at, earlier everything went to the mayor Luzhkov, now Serdyukov, the lamb of God, trusting, deceived. I watched Putin's speech, he remembered Peter I, when they objected to him that, they say, with whom you will stay, Sovereign, if you execute all the thieves, we all steal ... That's the answer, that to ask Serdyukov, "everyone is stealing." This is normal? I think no, it is not normal, especially at this level, and even more so when it comes to the country's defense capability. This is not just a monstrous theft, this is sabotage and betrayal, for something like that one does not even shoot, but it is necessary to hang on the place of execution so that others will not be familiar.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 25 December 2012 10: 16
      +5
      Quote: Per se.
      with whom will you stay, Sire, if all thieves are executed, we all steal ...


      And my father Petrusha recalls answered - The Russian Tsar and the thief cannot be in friendship.
  16. Combitor
    Combitor 25 December 2012 10: 16
    +5
    Officials and officials of the Ministry of Defense were stealing state (ours!) Money with might and main, and Serdyukov remains white and fluffy and is not even interrogated as a witness. Everything that was happening in this department turned out to be unknown to the country's top leadership (the president and the prime minister), all the "reforms" in the army and transactions with the sale of movable and immovable property of the Ministry of Defense, the liquidation of military schools and academies and many other cases that undermining the security of our country, you cannot call it flew past the ears and eyes of those who, according to their duty, are supposed to prevent this from happening. Putin and Medvedev were not aware! Dear compatriots! You are not tired of eating that d ... mo that our rotten government constantly slips you. From what heaped up under the Putin regime stinks in all directions. But the Chief Fuhrer again came out dry. And the entire population of our country admires his "principles and foresight". Itself is not disgusting?
  17. Sinbad
    Sinbad 25 December 2012 10: 20
    +1
    Serdukova and others like him under a military tribunal, they belong to the army, and execution, unconditionally. So that others might be discouraged. And then they lit the shit and b ... dei.
  18. SmacXnumx
    SmacXnumx 25 December 2012 10: 21
    +2
    They will let everything down in a quiet wave, it’s too painful for the figures to be large.
    1. andrey903
      andrey903 25 December 2012 10: 47
      +3
      The figures are not great, their positions are great. Such a policy of senior management to pull out a pot-bellied little thing (better than a thief) from under a stone so that it is obedient and does not blather
  19. taseka
    taseka 25 December 2012 10: 28
    +3
    Spiders in a government bank urgently make a decision, tossing their furry paws - who to devour for the sake of saving a furry ball of thieves and crooks !!!
  20. IRBIS
    IRBIS 25 December 2012 10: 37
    +3
    Offset! It completely coincides with my opinion. The initial fright of the defendants in the case has passed, the famous lawyers have joined (still, such money is at stake!) And here is the result. Dad gave diamonds to grandmothers for pocket expenses, and as for the sale of property, this is market conditions, you know ... And now head of the UK personally speaking. Only now his speech looks more like an excuse for the participants in the act and preparing the public for an already adopted decision, and not for the prevalence of the presumption of innocence.
    And if we add here the unwillingness of the deputies and the leadership to introduce the confiscation of property into the anti-corruption law, then everything immediately falls into place!
    1. andrey903
      andrey903 25 December 2012 13: 39
      +3
      Dad says that he personally painted pictures in Vasilieva’s apartment
  21. vezunchik
    vezunchik 25 December 2012 10: 40
    +3
    Steal a trillion rubles - and nothing! This money would have been enough for retirement and salaries of state employees! And then the last pants are removed from the workaholic ....
    The former governor of Ipatov in Minatom - is waiting for the kirieshka to go up for promotion - and his ministers. Although the Saratov region in such a collapse ...
  22. atomic
    atomic 25 December 2012 11: 06
    +5
    How many more Russian people will you make idiots? Putin put Serdyukov on. So, there are only traitors who are traitors, Serdyukovs, Deribaski-promissory notes, governor’s fishermen’s faces, and Putin has nothing to do with, white and fluffy.
    The traffic cop takes a bribe not for himself, but for the boss, who decides to keep him or fire him.
    1. Combitor
      Combitor 25 December 2012 16: 58
      +2
      I agree with you. You need to start with Putin.
  23. Enjoy
    Enjoy 25 December 2012 11: 09
    +4
    Now let’s start voting for our tandem Serdyukov with his kept women
    1. mike_z
      mike_z 25 December 2012 19: 13
      +1
      Quote: Enjoy
      Serdyukov with his keepers and votes

      ... and six years passed, and everything turned out to be forgotten, everyone realized that, then, in 2012, it could be even worse, but THEY saved the country, like E. Gaidar and EBN saved it in 91. And the majority went to vote for EdRo and LADIES. "THEY are not the best," said the "majority", "but there is no alternative to THEM ..."
      Continue this scary tale?
  24. Gall_st
    Gall_st 25 December 2012 11: 11
    +5
    But when will they eventually get drunk. Already from ears rushing.
  25. simpleton
    simpleton 25 December 2012 11: 13
    +7
    The old rule "you stole a million - you are an entrepreneur, businessman, you stole 100 rubles - you are a criminal" has not yet been canceled. In addition, the little nest Medvedev has already fully lit up with his business to cover the cronies who "built the road of the century" to the summit. Disgrace. Luzhkov and his wife were not handed over, while only Borodin is being pushed, and somehow quietly, behind the scenes. Indeed, today nothing more has been heard about the family of the former mayor. And in the Ministry of Defense there will be bigger things, and Serdyukov walks among Medvedev's friends, after all, he did not indicate how and where to work during the fires, but organizing a sweet vacation at a stolen dacha is always welcome. So it will tighten and merge. Because traitors, liars and thieves.
    1. knn54
      knn54 26 December 2012 16: 37
      0
      And one more rule: "if you killed a man, you are a bandit, you killed a thousand, you are a politician."
      No matter how "Serdyukov's Act / List" appears.
  26. Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 25 December 2012 12: 09
    +5
    Putin put Serdyukov on. So, there are only traitors who are traitors, Serdyukovs, Deribaski-promissory notes, governor’s fishermen’s faces, and Putin has nothing to do with, white and fluffy.

    Absolutely agree! If you are a leader, if you put a person in the position, then the answer is yours. It has always been so for everyone. I do not understand, well, how many of us for a sucker ... will be held. Well, after all, Serdyukov and our Guarantor are getting around, well, you must admit the obvious! Well, or at least close your mouths. Looking into the eyes with a clean honest look, saying that there are no claims to Serdyukov ... Well, what else can we talk about!
    But the bastard then turned around his campaign and his women. Sad recourse
  27. Manager
    Manager 25 December 2012 12: 11
    -2
    And still. No matter how everything looks, let's still wait. We will not draw conclusions. I still want to hope that the perpetrators will be punished.
    You can criticize GDP as much as you like. However, aviation, military equipment, etc., began to enter the troops this year. So let's wait and see.
    1. olegyurjewitch
      olegyurjewitch 25 December 2012 21: 40
      +1
      Quote: Manager
      However, aviation, military equipment, etc., began to enter the troops this year. So let's wait and see.

      The end of the year, what you want, the time for reports, and then the receipts immediately went. It is said and shown loudly, but on the scale of our entire country - these are isolated cases.
    2. Simon
      Simon 26 December 2012 21: 03
      0
      And if not for Serdyukov, then he would have acted much earlier.
  28. Nechai
    Nechai 25 December 2012 12: 22
    +4
    Quote: Ascetic
    I would say clanishness when leaders are selected not for professional or even bureaucratic career reasons but only based on personal allegiance to the ruling clan.

    That's right, Stanislav. Such "devotion" has one more universal name - the MAHIOS CAROTEL ... And corruption is an everyday, natural instrument of its existence. Actually, for this, the state system was changing! As paradoxical as it may seem, yet another core of this state power is the stimulated and well-organized financial subsidies of the subjects of the federation. So there is nothing surprising in the current CIRCUS! There can be no other way with them!
    Quote: Old Rocketman
    to transfer the case to the FSB-ALL BASES ARE AVAILABLE, there is a clear undermining of the state’s defense.

    Igor, do you think that everything is different there? Eh, if there were SO, then there would be no reason for such discussions B ...
  29. Olego48
    Olego48 25 December 2012 13: 11
    0
    In general, everything that has been stolen has been left in lifelong use, and forget about everything quickly. That is, they keep us behind and spit on them from the big bell tower, and on all the laws, and on all of us combined.
  30. Olego48
    Olego48 25 December 2012 13: 12
    +4
    In general, everything that has been stolen has been left in lifelong use, and forget about everything quickly. That is, they hold us for cattle and spit on them from the big bell tower, and on all the laws, and on all of us combined.
  31. wax
    wax 25 December 2012 13: 54
    +2
    There is a significant nuance: if Serdyukov was led by the nose (of a former tax official) in financial matters, then what was he like in military matters (a former furniture dealer)? How is top management going to break this paradox?
  32. selendis
    selendis 25 December 2012 14: 10
    +4
    The thing will end like this - Serdyukov has nothing to do with it, in the next election as in a joke: the CEC representative approaches the president - Comrade President, I have two news for you, good and bad. What kind? - asks the head of the people, bad - no one voted for you, but good - you won the election again!
  33. Dendi
    Dendi 25 December 2012 14: 15
    +2
    Well, our reforms to all reform reforms ... Police to the police, reform of the Ministry of Defense - military camps freeze, no coal. Isn't that an article ?? In general, our law is such that the more you steal the less time. A film about Berezovsky has recently been released; they dared to tell the truth about him only many years after it was already outlawed. So now think what kind of power the oligarchs have and how soon we will defeat them all ...
  34. plebs
    plebs 25 December 2012 14: 31
    +2
    This theft lasted for years. Recall who GDP was in the recent past? The immediate boss of Serdyukov. So no one will be imprisoned, because if you dig deep under the Minister of Defense, you can get to the prime minister.
  35. Owl
    Owl 25 December 2012 14: 34
    +4
    "Power" by its actions to "investigate and punish the guilty" shows that all this ("power") suits it, beyond words and "sluggish actions" (dismiss, warn, threaten with a finger) nothing will be done. This is the current Russian "power" - the power of thieves and traitors to the People and the Motherland.
  36. Flooding
    Flooding 25 December 2012 15: 20
    +2
    No matter how Putin tries to make a good face, he understands that the only chance for him to survive as a politician is to cover thieves raspberries (in the existing format, of course).
    The only burning question is how to make the wolves well fed and the sheep safe. But this will not work, whatever one may say. Very high tension rises in society. We'll have to give their lures to be torn to pieces. Question - whom?
    After all, it is necessary to merge so that the closest and most trusted do not suffer.
    To cover up eyes with the next permutations and castling? Not sure it's going to happen. That time is in the past.
  37. Yarbay
    Yarbay 25 December 2012 15: 30
    +1
    Quote: Flood
    that the only chance for him to survive as a politician is to close thieves raspberries (in the existing format, of course).
    The only burning question is how to make the wolves well fed and the sheep safe. But this will not work, whatever one may say. Very high tension rises in society. We'll have to give their lures to be torn to pieces. Question - who

    To do this, you must have state thinking, not cronyism!
    Therefore, as a person and friend, Putin is certainly worthy of respect!
    But as a statesman and head of state, he does not pull !!
    In order to do what you are talking about, you need to forget about feelings and appoint not close people to the posts, but people you can ask people from or you should be able to ask everyone !!!
  38. as2604
    as2604 25 December 2012 15: 53
    +1
    How many ministers of thieves and grabbers were, and at least one was imprisoned. Nobody. So it will be with this, a small riffraff will be punished and reported on the next opened case. Create only the appearance of the rule of law
  39. valokordin
    valokordin 25 December 2012 16: 01
    +2
    Well, finally got the ears? otherwise the fight against corruption was delighted, they didn’t hand over their people and cover up things by hook or by crook, and the storekeeper turned out to be the last one. Anatoly Serdyukov, vice president, Bastrykina, vice chancellor, prime minister remains at his post.
  40. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 25 December 2012 16: 08
    +1
    Yes, it was all predictable, they made noise and became quiet, only naive simpletons believed and still believe that someone will be punished and that things will be brought to an end. Once again we drove Norod over the ears, and the people are glad to see the radiekonek, glory to the great Putin)))
    1. 101
      101 25 December 2012 18: 04
      -1
      Together, holidays were celebrated, yes, we went on vacation, and then look at trouble with friends, what kind of help you need, otherwise it’s not human
  41. adolph1
    adolph1 25 December 2012 16: 43
    +2
    And it seems to me that nothing will happen! Well, except for a trip to London forever! And for an excuse they will put a couple of "pawns", and most likely the people again "eat this porridge", albeit with a sour face!

    Yes, yes London is waiting for such "pigs"
  42. 101
    101 25 December 2012 17: 51
    -1
    I will buy serfs Male sex up to 45 tons rub women sex up to 35 tons rub per soul Age under 35 years of good health and without bad habits
    1. 101
      101 25 December 2012 17: 58
      -2
      return the flag, I will no longer
  43. VadimSt
    VadimSt 25 December 2012 17: 52
    +2
    Some senior government officials even managed to declare that they had long been aware of all these frauds, but had to be silent so as not to frighten anyone ... Question: who? ..
    Whom, Whom? GOOD LUCK!
    How to regard such a statement from the lips of Ivanov? How can I work undercover in an organized criminal group, or how can I get over if the abscess is not opened? And this already looks like a promising blackmail!
  44. homosum20
    homosum20 25 December 2012 17: 52
    +1
    The photo at the beginning of the article causes one reaction:
    How romantic it is !!!!
    Chubby lips kiss diamond earrings (you already want to puke).
    The people have a bad memory. He has special people - they all record. We'll have to answer. (We will remind).
  45. tank64rus
    tank64rus 25 December 2012 18: 02
    +2
    Nicholas II also clung to War Minister Sukhomlinov. It was exactly one hundred years ago when this minister was accused of spying against Germany, the opposition, newspapers, openly called a German spy and the result was zero. And then there was a disaster in 1914 near Warsaw. sentenced to death, but the process was delayed, and then the revolution was released and he washed off to Germany. History has a bad tendency to repeat itself.
  46. itkul
    itkul 25 December 2012 19: 08
    0
    Here on this site, you yourself can judge, and at the same time remember what country you live in

    http://esquire.ru/test-82
  47. Kurchan.70
    Kurchan.70 25 December 2012 19: 15
    +3
    Serdyukov on the bunk with a harem !!!!!
  48. Gregazov
    Gregazov 25 December 2012 21: 04
    +1
    Maybe this is a little off topic, or maybe vice versa - an example of reaction. The former Rostov RINH (now RGTEU) was recognized as "ineffective." In response, the students went on strike, which was supported by the Academic Council of the university. And we silently put our universities under the knife and the Ministry of Defense too.
  49. Procrust
    Procrust 25 December 2012 22: 25
    +2
    After the New Year 2013, Taburetkin and his "deffchonki" will not even be remembered. And everything will be hushed up ...
  50. mr.poops
    mr.poops 25 December 2012 22: 31
    +4
    But I don’t believe that Putin and Medvedev are independent figures, maybe not puppets (Putin), but not independent players, the whole question is who is behind them and what goals they pursue. In most countries, this is a business, which is difficult for us to understand rather some kind of connection between business officials and criminals.
    And most importantly, I just can’t understand why it is necessary to kill a country in which there is everything and which could well dictate conditions to anyone ...