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“We have our own path, different from this”: Secretary of the Security Council of Abkhazia responded to Dmitry Medvedev’s words about joining Russia

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“We have our own path, different from this”: Secretary of the Security Council of Abkhazia responded to Dmitry Medvedev’s words about joining Russia

The Republic of Abkhazia adheres to the course of allied relations with Russia, but there are no political forces in the country advocating its entry into the Russian Federation. This was stated by the Secretary of the Security Council of Abkhazia Sergei Shamba in an interview with TASS.


Thus, the Secretary of the Security Council of Abkhazia commented on the statement of the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev. Earlier, Medvedev said that the idea of ​​joining Russia is popular in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

As for Abkhazia, we have our own path, different from this. We haven't had any such requests.

- said the Secretary of the Security Council of Abkhazia TASS.

At the same time, Shamba stressed that the situation in South Ossetia is really different from the Abkhazian, since the Ossetians are a divided people, Russia includes the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania. Therefore, the reunification of North and South Ossetia within the Russian Federation will look organic.

I hope that appropriate circumstances will arise in due time, and South Ossetia will unite with North Ossetia.

- noted the Secretary of the Security Council of Abkhazia.

Medvedev, we recall, said that the idea of ​​joining the two republics into the Russian state can be realized if there are "good reasons" for this.
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  1. AdAstra
    AdAstra 23 August 2023 15: 54
    +87
    Your way, but is Russia sure to help? laughing "" "" "
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 23 August 2023 15: 57
      +49
      I also thought about it ... give us money, but don’t bother us with your charter recourse ...
      1. Lev_Russia
        Lev_Russia 23 August 2023 16: 32
        +30
        give us money, but don’t bother us with your charter
        The elite of any of our former republics is well aware that it is better to be a sheep in a small flock of sheep than a sheep in a large herd of sheep ... There he is a king and a god, and near Moscow he is an ordinary "watcher" ... Feel the difference ... While we we help residents of the former republics by giving discounts on gas, electricity, and so on, the Americans make it easier - they either buy the elite in other countries, or simply find compromising evidence on it and use it for free ... Everyone who has accounts abroad is already under the hood American intelligence agencies, since these accounts can be blocked or simply seized ...
        So it’s useless to persuade the elites of our “former” ones ... If the States have already taken them into circulation, they won’t get away from them anywhere ... Once upon a time, the USSR could quite successfully use the “carrot and stick” tactics, you just need to remember all this, study and use...
        1. Nross
          Nross 23 August 2023 17: 14
          +12
          Agree. These elites are toxic, and have been for a long time. They have been sitting on their pants for a long time, they have stolen moulins for a long time, and they probably brought them to the West. These need to be changed - yes, at least for GBists, but not for the same local ones.
          In the Russian Empire, unfortunately not immediately, but they came up with an effective way to control such unreasonable brothers of our smaller ones - the General Government.
          1. Bayun
            Bayun 24 August 2023 09: 11
            +7
            "BETWEEN (!) The clouds and the sea proudly soar" so CONVENIENT!
          2. nerovnayadoroga
            nerovnayadoroga 24 August 2023 21: 49
            +1
            Gbists in the subject and steal and squeeze from the heart
      2. knn54
        knn54 23 August 2023 16: 35
        +10
        It is clear that Khan / Emir / Padishah is not going to be a simple bay.
        According to conversations with "locals", Turkey's influence in Abkhazia is growing every day. And this is not good.
        1. Rostov Papa
          Rostov Papa 23 August 2023 17: 04
          +14
          "Own way"... Grandmothers from Russia..............
      3. Crash
        Crash 24 August 2023 12: 50
        +4
        Not only money. Who protects them? Both in the political arena and militarily.
    2. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 23 August 2023 16: 00
      +1
      The Abkhazians have siblings, the Circassians and Adygs, with whom they fought together against the Georgians in the 90s for Abkhazia. This is about the same as South and North Ossetia. The Congress of the Mountain Peoples of the North Caucasus or the Confederation of the Mountain Peoples of the Caucasus, I don’t remember, all fought against Georgia. Kuban Cossacks, Chechens, Dagestanis also supported the Abkhazians. It can be said that the entire North Caucasus fought with Georgia in the 90s, albeit not officially. And so Abkhazia is a small proud Caucasian republic with a population of only 250 thousand people.

      Here is an old map before the events of 2014. The ethnic composition of the Caucasus. See how many dissimilar peoples live in the Caucasus. Who is not there.
      1. Nross
        Nross 23 August 2023 17: 19
        +14
        Wrong.
        They are very similar to each other. Even if not in language, not in folklore, but in relation to each other - they are very similar.
        The 100-year war in the Caucasus has proved this many times over. Why do we need this rake again?
        They need to be kept in line. Rigid bridle - with steel in the teeth, not otherwise.
      2. Sochi
        Sochi 23 August 2023 19: 50
        +1
        Abkhazians, for the most part, are Orthodox, there are few Muslims .. And the Adyghe Shapsugs are Muslims and the congress was held in one of the districts of Sochi and ABKHAZOV was not on it, from words completely and in general .. there were Chechens, Maikop Circassians, Ingush , but none of them supported the Chechens ... Religion in Abkhazia 60% - Christians 16% - Muslims 3% - adherents of the Abkhaz religion 5% - pagans 8% - atheists and non-believers 2% - others
    3. Stas157
      Stas157 23 August 2023 16: 02
      +35
      . "We have our own way, different from this"

      Give them to the Georgians and let them build their way. And if they ask for protection, then only on the terms of entry.

      They even live economically at the expense of Russia. They get electricity for free. Pensions and medical care in Adler. Since all citizens of the Russian Federation. Well settled on someone else's neck!
      1. Orange Bigg
        Orange Bigg 23 August 2023 16: 14
        -16
        It’s not good to say that. The choice of the Abkhaz must be respected. They gained their independence through sweat and blood, and it’s probably not for you to decide for them how to live.
        1. private person
          private person 23 August 2023 16: 26
          +34
          They gained their independence by sweat and blood, and it’s probably not for you to decide for them how to live.

          So let them live as they want then only not at the expense of Russia. You won't be full of tangerines alone.
          1. VOVA30930
            VOVA30930 23 August 2023 16: 57
            +8
            And they don't have much tangerines either. (((
            There are much more interesting proposals.
          2. dnestr74
            dnestr74 23 August 2023 19: 08
            +9
            And the planes apparently bombed the Abkhazian Georgians and much more! They would have cut them clean without Russia!
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 23 August 2023 16: 39
          -7
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          It’s not good to say that. The choice of the Abkhaz must be respected. They gained their independence through sweat and blood, and it’s probably not for you to decide for them how to live.

          Before the SVO, they had a different choice, they wanted to join, even here there were materials on this matter, but looking at the antics and venality of the Russian authorities, their opinion changed.
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 24 August 2023 13: 06
            +4
            No, and before the SVO, they stated that the maximum is confederal relations with the Russian Federation, possibly in the format of joining the Union State. Abkhazians are very nationalistic.
        3. AUL
          AUL 23 August 2023 16: 43
          +9
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          .They got their independence with sweat and blood

          Then Russian taxpayers and the blood of Russian soldiers!
        4. isv000
          isv000 23 August 2023 21: 00
          +7
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          It’s not good to say that. The choice of the Abkhaz must be respected. They gained their independence through sweat and blood, and it’s probably not for you to decide for them how to live.

          fool This is where they defended their independence with sweat and blood? In 2008, I remember, our army and navy defended their independence, and they gave protection ...
      2. kromer
        kromer 23 August 2023 16: 25
        +12
        Quote: Stas157
        They even live economically at the expense of Russia. They get electricity for free. Pensions and medical care in Adler. Since all citizens of the Russian Federation. Well settled on someone else's neck!


        Agree. The trouble is in our foreign policy. We make Abkhazia and South Ossetia free financial assistance to make their budget deficit-free. Why, from their point of view, be part of the Russian Federation? Russia pays, builds infrastructure, helps from the federal budget in a way that Chechnya can only compare. They make a good living on our money. If something happens, we will protect them from the Georgians.
        Our kindness is not included in any framework, since the republics hanging on our necks allow themselves to humiliate us. Russia can punish, and very harshly. But our foreign policy interferes with this. It's time for Russia to think. And finally, to punish severely for such statements.
        1. tonicio
          tonicio 24 August 2023 19: 10
          0
          And why do they have to be part of someone's composition. Who forces the authorities of the Russian Federation to support them?
      3. brondulyak
        brondulyak 24 August 2023 18: 23
        +1
        Well, they settled on OUR neck! And the legs hung down, come on, goof, so carry on!
    4. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 August 2023 16: 22
      +19
      Quote from AdAstra
      Your way, but is Russia sure to help?

      Not certainly in that way.
      Russia will pay money, hire Tajiks and do everything. Therefore, you yourself can do nothing from the word "absolutely". The word "work" is considered abusive, although, for some unknown reason, Abkhaz men drive on roads where the asphalt was last updated in the mid-80s, in quite decent cars. Where they take the money is unknown. Because women take care of the house, and they have a "work" - to walk back and forth, chat with friends. Construction stopped at the place where it was stopped by three scoundrels in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.
      Of the benefits - the nature of paradise. And the tale that the Abkhazians tell about that. that God gave the Abkhazians a piece of land reserved for himself is true.

      I say that there may be things that are unpleasant for Abkhazia, but there is nothing invented. The employee has a wife from Abkhazia, he goes there in his car for a week or two to visit her relatives every two years.
      Over the past 15 years, at least, nothing has changed - I just recounted his impressions.
      1. Reader 2013
        Reader 2013 23 August 2023 16: 47
        +2
        They do not have such duties on cars as in Russia, powerful cars will cost a penny
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 23 August 2023 19: 59
          +11
          Quote: Citelle 2013
          They do not have such duties on cars as in Russia, powerful cars will cost a penny

          Well, I don’t know ... Is it about duties or something else, but if you can earn money on an S-class gelding by growing tangerines, then maybe I’ve been doing construction in vain all my life? In the photographs I saw - an absolutely depressing rural landscape and two "geldings" on a dirt rural road.
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    6. Maz
      Maz 24 August 2023 11: 31
      0
      It looks like the guy is waiting for the fate of Prigozhin, he should be presented with an "Embrayer" and let him fly in his herd as the main ram, but in heaven.
    7. Traktoris
      Traktoris 24 August 2023 14: 42
      +4
      Being a local king is much cooler than one of the "many" officials. Well, getting money from Russia is a sacred thing.
    8. isv000
      isv000 24 August 2023 19: 34
      +1
      Quote from AdAstra
      Your way, but is Russia sure to help? laughing "" "" "

      Prepayment. Pickup.
    9. Mamin-Sibiryak
      Mamin-Sibiryak 27 August 2023 08: 59
      0
      This is what "your way" is. It's your own way, but other people's money, and then, who will voluntarily give up power? Türkiye, again, Ms. - actively supports a small but very proud republic
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 23 August 2023 15: 58
    +35
    Send Vedmedev to Abkhazia as an ambassador and not return to Russia without Abkhazia! He knows how to be clever on the Internet, let him show himself in business!
    1. vik669
      vik669 23 August 2023 16: 24
      +3
      So it was already - where they sent, the ambassador and the results were there ...
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    3. Mamin-Sibiryak
      Mamin-Sibiryak 27 August 2023 09: 06
      0
      What are you suggesting? Send a friend to a responsible job in a wine region?
  3. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 23 August 2023 15: 59
    +25
    Already, even the Secretary of the Security Council of Abkhazia openly sends to a well-known address the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation laughing
    Secretary of the Security Council of Abkhazia!
    1. spirit
      spirit 23 August 2023 16: 39
      +1
      Already even the secretary of the Security Council of Abkhazia

      This is all because he loves "Finland" more, and not the Abkhazian semi-sweet .... so they were offended drinks
  4. Doccor18
    Doccor18 23 August 2023 15: 59
    +14
    then we have our own way, different from this.

    Everything in this sentence...
    1. kromer
      kromer 23 August 2023 16: 33
      +7
      Quote: Doccor18
      then we have our own way, different from this.

      Everything in this sentence...


      Yes, to close their funding for these words and make it clear that we will not protect them from the aggression of the Georgians. I assure you, the rhetoric of Abkhazia will change radically.
      1. hector
        hector 23 August 2023 18: 18
        +4
        Quote from kromer
        Yes, to close their funding for these words and make it clear that we will not protect them from the aggression of the Georgians. I assure you, the rhetoric of Abkhazia will change radically.

        And add a line from The Mandalorian - That's the way.
  5. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 23 August 2023 16: 00
    +10
    As for Abkhazia, we have our own path, different from this. We haven't had any such requests.

    The song is called "Again, a little relieved from the ass."
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  6. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 23 August 2023 16: 05
    +4
    Earlier, Medvedev said that the idea of ​​joining Russia is popular in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.


    DAM running ahead of the locomotive? laughing
    1. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 23 August 2023 16: 14
      +2
      As for Abkhazia, we have our own path, different from this. We haven't had any such requests.
      - said the Secretary of the Security Council of Abkhazia TASS.

      Abkhazian samurai however. wink
    2. isv000
      isv000 24 August 2023 19: 36
      +2
      Quote: your vsr 66-67
      DAM running ahead of the locomotive?

      No, the locomotive is running behind DAM...
  7. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 23 August 2023 16: 08
    +11
    Sergei Shamba answered very politically correctly. We are for an alliance, not for joining. We are not on the way with Georgia, but with Russia along the way, but on different roads. , went along the long "(c) laughing
    1. guest
      guest 23 August 2023 16: 23
      +14
      Yes, but some, including Medvedev, suffer from youthful maximalism. Well, Abkhazia doesn’t want to become part of Russia and it’s not necessary, but they need help only where it is beneficial to Russia.
      1. UAZ 452
        UAZ 452 24 August 2023 19: 54
        +1
        And Russia is who? Does she make any decisions, in particular - on the allocation of funds to someone? No, these decisions are made by specific officials, and there is one and well-known scheme - I allocate 10 billion to you, you sign for 10 billion, and transfer two yards to the indicated accounts. In principle, federal subsidies are allocated to the regions according to approximately the same principle. And who in their right mind would refuse such geshefts? Yes, "sponsored" will refuse to help, they will be persuaded - yachts are not bought for salaries, after all.
    2. Shumi2010
      Shumi2010 23 August 2023 18: 50
      +1
      no, well, they are zero without us .. come up with a suitable formula, but so as not to get our subsidies
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 23 August 2023 16: 10
    +1
    It's just that everyone sees how weak Russia has become, with you yourself know who.
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 23 August 2023 16: 12
      +6
      It's just that everyone sees how weak Russia has become, with you yourself know who.
      Baidan?))
      1. Shumi2010
        Shumi2010 23 August 2023 18: 53
        +1
        yeah, contrary to the TOP50, it went and is holding on!
    2. private person
      private person 23 August 2023 16: 31
      -3
      It’s just that everyone sees how weak Russia has become, with you yourself know who

      No, not weak, but weakened. They ruined everything and live by selling natural resources.
  9. Seal
    Seal 23 August 2023 16: 12
    +2
    Quote: Stas157
    medical service in Adler.
    Well, it's not exactly a gift. Especially during the holiday season.
  10. Vladyka Ecumenical
    Vladyka Ecumenical 23 August 2023 16: 13
    +18
    No more questions. Yes, and claims to Georgia are beginning to disappear. In general, I am in favor of the Russian Federation not getting into all sorts of hemorrhoids and trying to treat them, even if somehow themselves. Russia itself has hefty hemorrhoids, and it needs to be treated. I think it is necessary to strengthen security within the country, provide the population with everything necessary in order to raise strong people, educate both men and women correctly, and promote demographic growth. And around let everything burn with a blue flame.
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 23 August 2023 16: 15
      +7
      I think it is necessary to strengthen security within the country, to provide the population with everything necessary
      Why spend so much money when it's easier to get a dozen other million immigrants?
    2. vlad svargin_2
      vlad svargin_2 23 August 2023 17: 48
      -2
      I think it is necessary to strengthen security within the country, provide the population with everything necessary in order to raise strong people, educate both men and women correctly, and promote demographic growth.

      I fully agree with you, but
      And around let everything burn with a blue flame.

      We remember the end of the 90s, the time of the betrayal of 3 leaders in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, and after that everything burned with a "blue flame" both in Eastern Europe and throughout our country, and in the meantime, NATO came close "silent glanders" to our borders and even to some territories and we had to carry out the NWO, freeing Ukraine from the Nazi Bandera and practically from NATO ...
      1. Cartographer
        Cartographer 24 August 2023 11: 43
        0
        Quote: vlad svargin_2
        I think it is necessary to strengthen security within the country, provide the population with everything necessary in order to raise strong people, educate both men and women correctly, and promote demographic growth.

        I fully agree with you, but
        And around let everything burn with a blue flame.

        We remember the end of the 90s, the time of the betrayal of 3 leaders in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, and after that everything burned with a "blue flame" both in Eastern Europe and throughout our country, and in the meantime, NATO came close "silent glanders" to our borders and even to some territories and we had to carry out the NWO, freeing Ukraine from the Nazi Bandera and practically from NATO ...

        Well, how, were they released? How do the vast majority of Ukrainians treat us? Ukraine will sooner or later join NATO anyway. By the way, have you ever wondered why all the former socialist countries joined there? 2.0 will offer to release Finland or Sweden from NATO
    3. Traktoris
      Traktoris 24 August 2023 14: 57
      +1
      When your (even an adult child) will run to the edge of the abyss, then using your own words: - "Let everything burn with a blue flame"!
  11. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 23 August 2023 16: 14
    +13
    Everything is correct here. But reasoning about "your way" is needed when you yourself earn money for "your way". Near the Georgians, he will support the path.
  12. dump22
    dump22 23 August 2023 16: 17
    -5
    Now it will be quickly explained to him that he is wrong.
    1. kromer
      kromer 23 August 2023 16: 36
      +4
      Quote from: dump22
      Now it will be quickly explained to him that he is wrong.


      Yes, he spat on these explanations. He knows very well that nothing will change. Our foreign policy is like this.
  13. oleg-nekrasov-19
    oleg-nekrasov-19 23 August 2023 16: 18
    +7
    "Your way" with electricity and gas from the Krasnodar Territory. Türkiye has long been looking in your direction "you are ours"
  14. Million
    Million 23 August 2023 16: 18
    +4
    It seems that Shamba answered correctly, but what a nasty feeling from his answer.
  15. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 23 August 2023 16: 19
    +4
    And where does this path lie with today's potential? Under Turkey? Again under Georgia? Strange people.
    1. kromer
      kromer 23 August 2023 16: 39
      +2
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      And where does this path lie with today's potential? Under Turkey? Again under Georgia? Strange people.


      Retreat Russia from Abkhazia and the Georgians will cut them out without exception. What Russia will not do.
  16. Nikolay310
    Nikolay310 23 August 2023 16: 21
    +8
    Without Russia, this shamba Sh will fall off very quickly and full Amba will come to Abkhazia ... small, but proud ... and then there will be Russia, pamagi ...
  17. Leshak
    Leshak 23 August 2023 16: 22
    +4
    As for Abkhazia, we have our own path, different from this. We haven't had any such requests.

    Well, thank God. Let them go.
  18. bravo77
    bravo77 23 August 2023 16: 38
    +3
    sit on your neck and get your tribute

    and after all, the dimon will wash himself after such a flicker
  19. Alexander Odintsov
    Alexander Odintsov 23 August 2023 16: 39
    +1
    I think if it were the proposal of the Supreme, the reaction would be different. Medvedev voiced the wishes of the patriotic bloc, but everyone knows that the course towards the restoration of the Empire is forbidden. And the answer of Abkhazia confirms this. Although one people in different states is absurd.
  20. Turbuta Dave
    Turbuta Dave 23 August 2023 16: 44
    +8
    Is it also a special way to eat and live off the money of Russia? Give these proud peoples to Georgia, she will teach them to love Russia
  21. Roust
    Roust 23 August 2023 16: 48
    +5
    And we need them!? Let them thank that the Georgians were not given to be eaten.
  22. alystan
    alystan 23 August 2023 16: 54
    0
    At the same time, Shamba stressed that the situation in South Ossetia is indeed different from that in Abkhazia, since Ossetians are a divided people, Russia includes the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania. Therefore, the reunification of North and South Ossetia within the Russian Federation will look organic.

    According to his idea, would the reunification of Abkhazia with Turkey or Azerbaijan look organic?

    Medvedev should have remembered the drinking bout in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, gone to Sukhumi and had a good and substantive "session". And all doubts would immediately disappear from the parties. Get used to doing everything by choice. No life experience...
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  24. digger
    digger 23 August 2023 17: 24
    +3
    And this is the opinion of not all Abkhazians .. but purely local officials in power .. who, oh, how they don’t want to be ruled by the Russian elite .. but they want to have a lot from Russia but at the same time be independent feudal lords and local kings. That's the whole point.
  25. evgen1221
    evgen1221 23 August 2023 17: 56
    +2
    We have our own path, a difficult and difficult path of noodles and freebies.
  26. orionvitt
    orionvitt 23 August 2023 20: 04
    +5
    The usual logic of an ordinary Caucasian. Here we kind of reign in our own "principality", and at your expense, but you don't interfere with us, we have a type of "our own way". Or maybe back to Georgia?
  27. ratoborets
    ratoborets 23 August 2023 20: 37
    +3
    The Republic of Abkhazia adheres to the course of allied relations with Russia, but there are no political forces in the country advocating its entry into the Russian Federation.

    No problem, they have every right to. Just let them go on free bread (most of the budget of Abkhazia is subsidized by Russia, most of them have Russian passports, receive Russian pensions and medical services in Adler) and let them fight off the Georgians themselves.

    And it’s very convenient, where it’s beneficial for us for “allied relations”, and suddenly that “tobacco apart”.
  28. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 23 August 2023 20: 37
    +2
    Yeah. We want to receive money free of charge to the maximum - and to obey Russian laws to a minimum!

    I think that Medvedev needs to say in response to this that Russia will not tolerate consumer attitude towards itself, and that it does not intend to carry Abkhazia like a suitcase without a handle. And if her hand gets tired, then Russia has a great way to make peace with the Georgians...
  29. Nikolay Dyaglev
    Nikolay Dyaglev 23 August 2023 20: 39
    +1
    Everyone wants to be kings, albeit small, but their own kingdom
  30. isv000
    isv000 23 August 2023 20: 54
    +2
    Mine?! Yes, good luck! Only then don’t talk about your tangerines and mimosa, and when the rodents get up behind you, don’t yell about Russian brothers! The Turks have already digested your Adjarian neighbors, wait. And we can swim in the Yenisei, if there is a desire!
  31. Sergey3
    Sergey3 23 August 2023 20: 57
    -8
    It is not surprising that neither Belarus nor Abkhazia want to join Russia until the power in Moscow is changed, no one will join Russia of their own free will ...
    1. Sochi
      Sochi 23 August 2023 21: 38
      -4
      and that someone invited Belarusians to join Russia ??? In no case .. Most Russians are categorically against .. Russia respects))) "independence" of bulbashes .. Let them live as they want .. stay away from us, stay away .. from "brothers" not ours. ))) There is NO desire to contain the poor ..
      1. Sergey3
        Sergey3 24 August 2023 10: 53
        0
        Poverty comes from the inability to lead, and dislike for Russia comes from the wrong upbringing of the younger generation. It is necessary to clear kindergartens, schools, institutions of people with liberal views... Even Negroes begin to consider themselves Russians with the right approach to them.
      2. Cartographer
        Cartographer 25 August 2023 05: 51
        +1
        Quote: Sochi
        and that someone invited Belarusians to join Russia ??? In no case .. Most Russians are categorically against .. Russia respects))) "independence" of bulbashes .. Let them live as they want .. stay away from us, stay away .. from "brothers" not ours. ))) There is NO desire to contain the poor ..

        You better ask the Belarusians if they want to join Russia.
        1. Sergey3
          Sergey3 25 August 2023 08: 45
          +1
          You better ask the Belarusians if they want to join Russia.

          I already asked if they live in Russia and quietly hate it, but stubbornly do not want to go home. In a word, Belarusians are not our brothers...
  32. MaxKruh
    MaxKruh 23 August 2023 21: 24
    -1
    The man in the photo looks like actor Igor Artashonov from the series "Zone".
    1. isv000
      isv000 24 August 2023 19: 33
      -1
      Quote from MaxKruh
      The man in the photo looks like actor Igor Artashonov from the series "Zone".

      I don’t understand the varieties of * Aries!
  33. super-vitek
    super-vitek 23 August 2023 22: 10
    +5
    Proud Abkhazian beggars... They live on our money!!! Still yapping. For 30 years since the end of the war, these loafers have not done, have not restored!!!! Broken houses still stand in the center of Sukhum ... In 2014, I rested with these hospitable hucksters. There is a nine-story building. People live on the fifth and seventh floors, and on the sixth, a broken apartment and TREES grow inside ... The house is in tears from being hit by NARs. In the courtyard of the former weaving factory, everything is in the traces of maintaining a database. Garages are shells like a sieve, everything is cut with fragments. Maybe it's been restored now, I don't know. But in general, this "republic" is just a parasite around our necks. True, now the Turks are operating there in full. So, proud, Abkhazians crawl ass and ours and yours.
    1. sifgame
      sifgame 24 August 2023 15: 41
      +4
      A month ago there was, all the same, a sad sight. In the morning, the Abkhaz got up immediately tired, they say so proudly to themselves.
  34. Dargavs
    Dargavs 24 August 2023 09: 05
    +2
    Quote from: VOVA30930
    And they don't have much tangerines either. (((
    There are much more interesting proposals.

    Despite the fact that there is a choice, Abkhaz tangerines "without a stone" are sweeter and unpretentious, and in this case, instead of banal subsidies, it would be better to agree on a state order for agricultural products (as with Egypt), then the Abkhazians would not be a subsidized partner.
  35. Volunteer Marek
    Volunteer Marek 24 August 2023 09: 53
    +1
    Well thought out! You protect us, protect, build, restore, support, and we, so be it, will be allies. And we have our own path. Hey young man!
    1. Sergey3
      Sergey3 25 August 2023 08: 53
      +1
      But personally, would you be in favor of becoming part of Russia, knowing that taxation will immediately increase at least 2 times? And don’t tell me about the notorious 13%, this is nonsense for the illiterate, taxes are hidden in the prices of goods, for example, in the price of gasoline there is about 60% tax (it varies constantly), the price of soda in the store is the same, even in milk there is more than one tax .
      And at the same time, your income cannot increase, because you will have to work much more!
  36. Seal
    Seal 24 August 2023 12: 35
    +1
    What is known about Shamba?
    In May 2006, Shamba met with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili to discuss the "Key to the Future" plan for settling the Georgian-Abkhaz conflict proposed by the Abkhaz side. This plan implied the recognition of the independence of Abkhazia and the return of Georgian refugees to its territory [24]. Negotiations on the plan did not lead to any action, however, its discussion with Russia, as well as other unrecognized republics - South Ossetia and Transnistria - was carried out until the aggravation of relations with Georgia in the spring of 2008.

    Shamba has repeatedly stated through the media that Abkhazia needs to achieve the status of an independent state and enter into an associated membership with Russia. At the same time, he cited the Marshall Islands as an example - an independent state, which, being a member of the UN, has a special agreement with the United States, according to which the latter guarantees its security, and a number of state functions are transferred to joint jurisdiction.

    In early August 2008, hostilities unfolded on the territory of South Ossetia, which later became known as the "five-day war." The Georgian side defined them as an operation to restore constitutional order in the conflict zone, and the President of the Russian Federation explained the intervention of the Russian military by the need to restore peace in the conflict zone. Subsequently, Russia recognized the independence of Abkhazia. In October of the same year, Shamba headed the Abkhaz delegation for peace talks in Geneva. However, under pressure from Georgia, the delegations of South Ossetia and Abkhazia were given a secondary role in them. After a loud skirmish with representatives of the Russian Federation, related to the dissatisfaction of the Abkhaz side with the format of the discussion, Shamba decided to refuse further participation in the negotiations.

    And especially for history buffs. Shamba - Doctor of Historical "Sciences" lol
  37. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
    Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 24 August 2023 14: 06
    +2
    "......Dengi come on...dengi come on, oschin nada dengi !!!! Hotchish lezginko? Here is lezginko!!!" shouted the people dancing in front of the buses with tourists...
    -Amazing people, what they live on, what they eat - it's not clear! ....."
  38. Prisoner
    Prisoner 24 August 2023 19: 29
    0
    This is correct. Let them walk on their own. We are starting again, repeating past mistakes, hanging around with parasites. I was in Abkhazia. Everything that was created was built under the USSR in complete ruin. Young people have no desire to work at all. Do we need such a burden?
  39. Igor1915
    Igor1915 24 August 2023 21: 42
    +1
    At least someone laid siege to this talker bear
  40. Yuri Vasilyev
    Yuri Vasilyev 24 August 2023 22: 04
    0
    Abkhazia is a criminal enclave, and as part of Russia, it is not needed for hell.
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 25 August 2023 07: 51
      0
      It is difficult to understand why Russia needs it in its current form - a fully subsidized entity that has no obligations to our country. Nothing comes to mind except that the representatives of the Abkhazian elites know perfectly well which Moscow offices should include a "small share" of the subsidies received, and they actively apply this knowledge in practice.
  41. storm
    storm 24 August 2023 22: 52
    0
    A criminal enclave that parasitizes on the body of Russia, this is Abkhazia ....
    If Medvedev is so sure of the loyalty of the Abkhaz to Russia, let him try to get elected to the local parliament there, and then support them at his own expense .....