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There was no stronger fortress ...

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I flew, flew, flew,
Walked around the world ...
I saw a marvel, a marvel,
The miracle is wonderful, the miracle is wonderful:
As our father Suvorov-graph
With a little power of their falcons
Smashed the shelves
Polonil pasha and viziers,
He took Ishmael, a strong fortress
The fortress is strong, treasured.
Many soldiers fell there
For Holy Russia-fatherland
And for the Christian faith.

(Soldier song).

The 1790 campaign of the year (the Russian-Turkish war of 1787 — 1791) was marked by a new brilliant victory of the Russian army - siege, assault and capture of the Turkish stronghold on the Danube - Izmail fortress. Ottoman sultan Selim III and his military leaders connected with this powerful fortress great hopes, not without reason believing that Ishmael would stop the advance of the Russian army and change the course of the war unfavorable for Istanbul. The capture of Ishmael gave the Russian army the opportunity to break through to the Balkans, to Bulgaria. There was an opportunity to realize the most daring plans of St. Petersburg - to free Constantinople-Tsargrad from the Turks (there was an idea of ​​restoring the Byzantine Empire, one of the members of the Romanov dynasty had to become its head).

Ishmael was not just a big fortress that stood on the left (northern) bank of the Kiliya arm of the Danube. It was an "army fortress" - a fortress gathering army, i.e., it could accommodate an entire army. Since 1774, the fortress has been modernized under the guidance of experienced French and German fortifiers. As a result, Ishmael became a first-class European fortress, which was considered impregnable (with the presence of adequate reserves and a sufficient garrison). The Turkish stronghold resembled a triangle, which adjoined the south side to the river. The top of the "triangle" lay in the north, and the western and northeastern walls were almost at a right angle against the Danube. Ishmael was located on the slopes of the coastal heights. A wide hollow divided the city into two parts: the Old City - the western, most of the city blocks, the New Fortress - the eastern part. The total length of the walls along the outer contour was about 6,5 km: the western front - about 1,5 km, the northeast - more than 2,5 km, the southern 2 km. Beyond the moat, 12 meters wide, 6-10 meters deep and filled with 2 meters of water, was an earth mound with seven bastions protecting the city from land. In front of the moat, wolf pits and other traps were made. The bastions were also earthen, only two managed to revet stone. The height of the shaft was 6-8 meters, it was notable for its considerable steepness. The height of the bastions reached 20-24 meters. From the north, Ishmael was additionally protected by a citadel, here at the top of the triangle was located the Bendery bastion, lined with stone. From the west of the citadel was located Lake Brosko, marshland reached the very moat. The fortress had several well-fortified gates: Brossky (Tsargrad) and Khotyn from the west, Kiliya - from the east, Bendery - from the west. The approaches and the roads to them were well shot by artillery.

There were no bastions on the Danube side. Initially, the Turkish command relied on the power of its river flotilla and the steepness of the coast. However, after the Russians almost completely destroyed the Turkish Danube flotilla on November 20, the Turks began to urgently strengthen the riverine side of Izmail, which had become vulnerable. The Turks placed ten artillery batteries with large-caliber guns on the southern face of the defensive line, which could shoot through the river and even enemy positions on the other side. At the same time, positions were also equipped for infantry.

Along with the citadel, the southwest corner of the serfdom was additionally strengthened. Here, at about 100 meters from the river, the shaft ended with the stone tower Tabia (also called the bastion or redoubt) with a three-tier cannon defense. The gap between the tower and the water was covered by a moat and palisade. The guns from Tabiya flanked this site. It should also be noted that in the city itself there were many sturdy stone buildings - mosques, commercial buildings, private houses, some of which were prepared in advance for defense, in case of street fighting.

The defense of the fortress was strengthened by natural obstacles. The Danube covered the city from the south, the lakes Kuchurluy and Alapuh from the west, and the lake Katabuh from the east. These natural objects limited the maneuver of the Russian troops, narrowed offensive capabilities. Yes, and the area in front of Ishmael was largely swamped, in the spring and autumn this fact was aggravated by the constant rains.

The garrison of the fortress was 35 thousand soldiers, almost half of them were janissaries (17 thousand), the selective part of the Sultan's infantry. The rest of the garrison is the sipahi (Turkish cavalry), the Crimean Tatars, the cannon maid and the city militia. In addition, the garrison was replenished with soldiers of the defeated garrisons of the fortresses of Kiliya, Tulci and Isacchi, and the crews of the destroyed Danube flotilla. The garrison was commanded by one of the most experienced Turkish commanders, serasker Aydozly-Muhammad Pasha (Aidos Mehmed Pasha). One of the main commanders was the brother of the Crimean Khan Kaplan Girey. The armament of the fortress was 265 guns. Of these, 85 guns and 15 mortars were located in riverine batteries. Sultan ordered the death penalty for those who surrender, which increased the tenacity of the garrison. Among the warriors there were many fanatically minded people who were ready to fight the "infidels" to the last drop of blood.

Ishmael was well prepared for the siege, having huge reserves of supplies and ammunition. The supply of supplies on the river was stopped only with the beginning of the blockade of the fortress. In addition, there were many thousands of horses of the Turkish and Crimean cavalry in the fortress, which could be slaughtered for meat. A large number of livestock were driven from the neighboring villages.

There was no stronger fortress ...


Siege fortress

The siege of the fortress of Izmail began in November 1790. After taking possession of the fortresses of Kiliya, Tulcea and Isakcha, the commander-in-chief of the Russian army, Prince G. A. Potemkin-Tavrichesky, ordered the troops of generals I. V. Gudovich, P. S. Potemkin and the flotilla of General de Ribas to capture Ishmael.

The first to come to the fortress ships of the river flotilla, Major-General Joseph Mikhailovich de Ribas. First of all, he decided to seize the island of Chatal, which was located opposite the fortress, in order to equip artillery batteries on it. The Turks tried to trick the Russian command to lure the Russian ships under the fire of serf batteries. Part of the Turkish-Tatar cavalry moved along the bank of the Rapid River (Rapid), and 5 Turkish Lanson sailboats approached its mouth. However, the ruse failed, a landing party from the 200 grenadiers and 300 Black Sea Cossacks with two guns was landed on the left bank of the Danube. They forced the enemy to retreat. A detachment of ships under the command of Lieutenant Colonel de Ribas Jr. was sent against the Turkish ships. During the battle, one Turkish ship was destroyed, the others retreated under the protection of the artillery of the fortress.

A landing party under the command of Major-General Nikolai Arsenyev was landed on Chatal. Began battery device. At the same time, the flotilla blocked the Danube and began shelling the fortress, an artillery duel ensued. By the morning of November 20, three positions were built on Chatal. They began shelling the inside of the city and enemy ships. Ribas tried to destroy the enemy ships with the help of firefighters, but the strong barrage of Turkish batteries prevented the realization of this idea. However, part of the Turkish crews in a panic escaped from the ships. The Russian desire to destroy the enemy ships was so strong that the detachment of the captain of the 1 rank F. Akhmatov bravely moved to Tabiya, under the cover of the guns of which there were many Turkish ships, including the 18-gun ship. The battle began, the barges and small ships under the command of lieutenants Pokochin and Kuznetsov joined Akhmatov. As a result of the battle, a large enemy ship and 7 Lansons were burned.

At the same time there was a battle below Ishmael. There, Russian nuns 12 and Black Sea Cossack oaks (seagoing boats) under heavy enemy fire approached the fortress and destroyed 4 Lanson and 17 transporters. This success inspired the Russian warriors, landing troops from the ships to the coast in the city. The paratroopers captured Tabia with a decisive blow. The Turks realized it and went to the counterattack, but the Russian soldiers fought off two attacks with fire and bayonets. Ribas realizing that his forces were not enough to capture the city, he took the forward detachment. The Turkish command decided to respond and landed its landing force on Chatal. But numerous Turkish troops were thrown into the water, while many enemy ships were destroyed. As a result of the November 20 battle, the Turks suffered heavy casualties, were burned or sunk: one large three-masted sailboat, 12 lanns, 32 transporter and more 40 rowboats. The Turkish river flotilla as a combat unit ceased to exist. The Russian flotilla has lost three lansons.

After this battle, there was no active fighting. On the island of Chatal, 29 battery was built for November 8. From time to time Russian artillery (there was little ammunition) fired at the fortress and the remnants of the enemy flotilla. By the end of November, Russian troops had set up a siege camp under the walls of Ishmael, four miles from the city. They did not take any active actions, except for the skirmishes of the patrols. There were several reasons for the inaction of the Russian army. The regiments were not prepared for the siege of a powerful enemy fortress, they did not have heavy siege artillery, and the field guns had only one ammunition. Almost half of the siege troops were Cossacks, most of whom lost horses and armed mostly with only shortened variant peaks. The weather was cold, there was no fuel except reed. Food had to be carried from afar. Diseases that caused a great mortality under these conditions began. In addition, there was no single command. Potyomkin did not appoint the commander in chief of the siege of Ishmael. Neither Lieutenant-General Pavel Potemkin (cousin of the Most High Prince), nor General-in-Chief Ivan Gudovich, nor Major-General Mikhail Kutuzov depended on each other in their official position, as did the leader of the flotilla de Ribas. The commanders not only did not depend on each other, but did not want to help their neighbors.


"Danube Hero" Joseph M. de Ribas.

Alexander Suvorov

In the end, the military council decided to lift the siege and move to winter apartments. The first regiments began to leave the camp. Alarmed Potemkin, I realized that it was time to take drastic measures. It became clear that the "grandiose feat of mastering Ishmael" was on the shoulder of only one single person. Potemkin knew Suvorov well and was sure that he would do everything possible and impossible to win. The Commander-in-Chief of the order 1336 No. 25 of November 1790, signed in Bender, appointed the chief-general of Count Suvorov-Rymniki commander of all troops under Ismail. He received the right to determine the need for an assault or retreat. At the same time, under the pretext of having a capable commander in the Kuban, Potemkin withdrew General Gudovich, who presided over the military council, which decided to retreat. It should be noted that the direction of Gudovich to the Caucasian direction was very true. It was Gudovich who in the summer of 1791 took the “Caucasian Ishmael” - the powerful fortress of Anapa.

In the army, the appointment of Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov was greeted with great joy. With him tied fast and quick victory. On November 30, having surrendered the army corps in Galati, Suvorov rode off towards Ishmael. Before that, he ordered his beloved Fanagoriysky grenadier regiment under the command of Colonel Vasily Zolotukhin to go to the Turkish fortress. On the way, the commander met the already withdrawn units of the siege army and ordered to return immediately. Early in the morning of December 2, Suvorov arrived at the siege camp, where he found 20 thousand troops, mostly Don Cossacks. Potemkin tried to render all possible assistance to Suvorov: regiments who had gone to winter apartments were returned to Izmail, and all the cavalry and part of the infantry were transferred from the corps in Galati. She was transported by river.


V.I. Surikov. Portrait of the commander AV Suvorov. 1907.

The commander, with his characteristic swiftness, conducted a review of the troops and a reconnaissance of the enemy fortifications. There was a difficult choice in front of Alexander: there was no material means to besiege the fortress (siege artillery, ammunition in the right quantity for field guns, problems with provisions, fuel), weather conditions interfered, it was necessary to immediately go to storm or leave. Suvorov decided to prepare for the assault within 5 days. During this time, reinforcements from the Galati detachment, the Fanagori Grenadier Regiment, were to arrive, and to bring ammunition for field artillery. Began preparations for the assault. Everything was done at a fast pace, because there was no time, any delay played into the hands of the enemy. Fashinas were being prepared for ditches, assault ladders, and entrenching tools. The commanders carried out reconnaissance fortifications of the enemy. Equipped firing positions for field artillery, which should suppress enemy batteries, just before the assault. The soldiers were trained in a specially built training campus (erected out of sight from the enemy walls), a section of the moat and shaft of the Turkish fortress was copied there, and stuffed janissaries were put. Company after company, one hundred after one hundred, learned to overcome fortifications, practicing methods of bayonet fighting. Suvorov spent psychological preparation of troops, setting them up for a decisive battle. Every day he toured the troops, talked with soldiers, officers, Cossacks, gunners. Much of the work had to be done at night, so as not to disturb the Turkish soldiers, not to be subjected to artillery shelling. Much attention was paid to the training of sappers (pioneers), a lot depended on them, since they were ahead of the assault columns. Two more batteries were built, more powerful than the early ones. One battery was erected in front of the Brossky Gate, the other - of Kiliya.

Soon the training was completed, reinforcements arrived, Suvorov's forces increased to 31 thousand fighters (28,5 thousand infantry and 2,5 thousand cavalry). Suvorov had a total of 33 battalions of regular infantry (14,5 thousand soldiers), 8 thousand dismounted Don Cossacks, 4 thousand Black Cossacks, 2 thousand arnouts (Moldovans and Valahs), 11 of cavalry squadrons and 4 of the Siekhovs of the Siekhov. The weakness of the infantry was the presence of a significant number of dismounted Cossacks, armed mainly with short pikes and sabers, not having guns with bayonets. Thus, the assault troops were numerically inferior to the besieged. The siege corps artillery was seemingly powerful: until the 560 guns were only in the river flotilla. But there was no powerful siege artillery capable of breaking through gaps in the ramparts and bastions. Most of the naval artillery was small caliber, suitable only for close combat. Moreover, the limited ammunition made it impossible to conduct proper preparation for the assault. In the field and regimental artillery Suvorov had about three times less guns than the Turks. He concentrated it against the eastern and western sides of the fortress, not far from the bank of the Danube (Lassi, Lvov and Kutuzov columns), there were 20 guns here. The remaining guns were installed on the island against the south side of the fortress; other parts of the siege troops received a fairly small amount of artillery. As a result, most of the field and all the ship's artillery was concentrated against the southern part of the fortress. Thus, Alexander Suvorov carried out the concentration of artillery on the direction of the main attack, even before Napoleon, whom Western researchers consider to be a pioneer in this field.

On December 7, the commander sent an envoer with two letters to the fortress: from Suvorov and Potemkin, both messages in the ultimatum form suggested that Muhammad Pasha capitulate to prevent "bloodshed and cruelty." The Turkish military leaders were given the opportunity to save face, the soldiers could leave the fortress with personal weapons, and the townspeople with the property. The deadline for reflection was given one day. Suvorov was laconic: "The 24 hours of thinking for the task and will, my first shots are already bondage, the assault is death." In the evening, Seraskir gave a lengthy answer, asking for a truce on 10 days to ask for the Grand Vizier’s permission to surrender. The Turkish commander cunningly pulled out time, hoping to get help from the Sultan's army from the Danube's right bank. Suvorov gave more time to think - until the morning. When the 9 of December came from a seraskir a parliamentarian for further negotiations, Suvorov conveyed that it was too late and everyone in Izmail was doomed to death.

Suvorov gathered the last military council and addressed his comrades with a brief but succinct speech: “The Russians approached Ishmael twice and they retreated twice. Now, for the third time, it remains for us only to take the city or die. True, the difficulties are great: the garrison is a whole army, but nothing can stand against Russian weapons. We are strong and confident. I decided to take possession of this fortress or die under its walls. ” Looking around the crowd, the commander offered to speak, relying on "God and conscience." The decision was the same: “Storm!” It was announced by Matvey Platov.

Assault plan

The assault was scheduled for the night from 10 to December 11 (December 21-22). Preliminary events started on the evening of December 8. Supervised by artillery Major General Peter Rtishchev. 4 batteries were erected against the riverine fashi of the fortress, just before the assault itself, a thousand people worked on their construction in two shifts. At dawn 9 December, all siege batteries and ships of the Danube Flotilla began bombardment of the fortress. The last shelling of the fortress was scheduled to take place at midnight on the eve of the attack, it should have been waged until 6 in the morning, and then fired at idle, so as not to hit its troops and frighten the enemy. The 8 Bombardier ships received a special task, they should approach the fortress as close as possible and launch several important Turkish fortifications as soon as the offensive began. The remaining ships of the flotilla at the beginning of the assault received the task of embarking on two lines in about 20 fathoms from the coast and firing direct fire, clearing the coast from the Turks. The flotilla carried 2-thousand. landing squad, which was a reserve. In case of enemy attacks, doubled the hourly posts and identified additional Cossack horse pickets. Every day and night the battery was protected by an infantry battalion and cavalry reserves.

Suvorov planned a simultaneous attack on all three faces of the fortress, including a blow across the river. The attack had to be carried out by 9 assault columns, three for each face of Ishmael. The offensive was divided into two stages: the first - the seizure of the external fortification, the second - the destruction of the enemy's internal strongholds, the elimination of the garrison in street battles or its capture. Each group of troops and a convoy had its own task.

The western front attacked 7,5 ths. Detachment (6, 5 ths. Infantry and 1 th. Arnouts), Lieutenant-General Pavel Potemkin. The 1 th assault column of Major-General Sergei Lvov had the task of advancing along the left bank of the Danube on the most powerful fortification of Izmail, the Tabiya Tower. They had to overcome the mouth of the Cast, to break through the passage in the palisade and break into the city. The structure of the shock column included: a battalion of Belarusian rangers, 4 battalion of the Fanagori grenadier regiment (two battalions in reserve), a company of musketeers-Absheron. To crack the palisade, the column was given 50 "workers" with axes, crowbars and other tools. The 2-I column under the command of Major General Lassi was to storm the fortifications of the Old Fortress north of the Bross Gate. The soldiers carried 8 assault ladders with them. It consisted of the 4 battalion of the Yekaterinoslav Jaeger Corps (one in reserve) and 128 shooters. In addition to the rangers, a battalion of Belarusian rangers was in reserve. The 3 th assault convoy of Major General Fyodor Meknob had the task of taking the Khotyn gates and carrying the 8 assault ladders. It consisted of the 3 battalion of Livonian rangers, the 2 battalion of the Trinity Musketeer Regiment (in reserve). In addition to the reserves of the columns, there was a general reserve: Seversky karabinerny, Voronezh hussarsky and Don Cossack Colonel Sychev. The cavalry was to develop an offensive when the enemy defenses were breached, after taking the Brossky and Khotyn gates. In extreme cases, cavalry could be sent to assist the assault columns at the first stage of the attack, on foot.

The northeast front of the fortress attacked the left-flank 12-thousand. detachment (3 thousand regular infantry, 8 thousand Don Cossacks and 1 thousand arnauts) under the leadership of Lieutenant-General Alexander Nikolayevich Samoilov. The 4-I assault column of brigadier Vasily Orlov struck in the area of ​​the Bender Gate. It included 2 thousand Cossacks, 500 was in reserve. The 5-th column of the brigadier Matvey Platov had the task of attacking the enemy in a wide hollow between the Old and New Fortresses. The column consisted of 5 thousand Don Cossacks and 2 Musketeer battalions of the Polotsk Regiment (reserve). The general leadership of the 4 and 5 columns was carried out by Major General Ilya Bezborodko. 6-I column under the command of Mikhail Kutuzov struck a blow at the New Fortress in the area of ​​the Kiliya Gate. The shock column consisted of the 3 battalion of the Bug Jaeger Corps and 120 shooters from the same corps. Kutuzov had a strong reserve: the 2 battalion of the Kherson Grenadier Regiment and the 1 thousand Cossacks. The arrows in each column had the task of firing white at the crest of the shaft and the loopholes of the bastions, not allowing the enemy to conduct aimed cannon-rifle fire at the storming columns. Reserve columns immediately followed her in the square and, if necessary, immediately entered into battle.

The southern coastal fort of the fortress attacked 9-thousand. detachment (5 thousand regular infantry and 4 thousand Cossacks), Major General Ribas. Three columns landed from Chatal island. The 1 column was commanded by Major General Nikolai Arsenyev. The column struck at the hollow that divided the entire city into the Old and New Fortresses (as well as the Platov column, but on the other side), assisting the 5 st column. The shock column consisted of the Primorsky Nikolaev Grenadier Regiment, the battalion of the Livonia Yeger Corps and the 2 of thousands of Black Sea Cossacks. Three Cossack hundreds led by Colonel A. Golovaty walked in the vanguard. The 2-th column of brigadier Z. Chepiga struck at the center of the enemy position. It included the Alexopol Infantry Regiment, the 200 Grenadier of the Dnieper Primorsky Regiment and the 1 Thousands of Cossacks. The 3-th column of the second-major of the Life Guards Preobrazhensky Regiment I. Markov had the task of supporting the 1-th column, which stormed Tabia. It included the 800 grenadier of the Dnieper regiment, the battalion of the Bug and 2 battalions of the Belarusian rangers, 1 thousand Cossacks.

The flotilla supported 1 and 3 landing columns from Chatala with its fire. The ships were built in two battle lines. In the first, there were 145 small vessels (mainly Cossack boats) with a landing force on board. In the second more 50 larger ships, she had to implement the main fire support. According to the plan of Suvorov, in areas that stormed the columns of Lviv, Kutuzov, Arsenyev and Markov, was concentrated most of the artillery of the ground forces and the river flotilla. These directions were decisive. It should be noted that the actions of the attackers almost did not affect one of the most powerful Turkish fortified areas - the citadel. The cavalry was in general reserve to support the storming columns at the second stage of the offensive, when the gates were captured and it would be possible to break into the city.

Suvorov envisaged the case that at the first stage one of the columns could be the first to break through the external fortifications and, continuing the offensive, break into the city’s quarters. In this case, the Turkish command received a chance to concentrate the reserves, surround and destroy the Russian troops that had broken through. Therefore, Suvorov forbidden to enter the fortress without permission, before orders from the command. At the same time, the column commanders had great independence in their speeches, in particular, they had the right to send a reserve to help their neighbors. The observation post of Suvorov was located on a small mound approximately around the 3 of the Meknob column.



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  1. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 24 December 2012 09: 16
    +20
    Russia was lucky in those years, in the ranks were two military geniuses who did not know defeats. On land A.V. Suvorov at sea A.F. Ushakov.
    Actually, the capture of Ishmael is one of the greatest victories of A.V. Suvorov. Only such a military genius as he could give Russia such a victory.
    1. Lucky
      Lucky 25 December 2012 16: 10
      +1
      Yes, the victory is one of the most grandiose in the history of Russia!))
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 25 December 2012 22: 42
        0
        We have a precious relic of our father's great-great-great-grandfather at home. Oval soldier's medal "For excellent bravery in the capture of Ishmael" 1791.
  2. zstalkerzz
    zstalkerzz 24 December 2012 09: 18
    +12
    GREAT event for world history. no one has yet been able to surpass Suvorov in the capture of fortresses. although the West in its ratings of commanders Suvorov puts in last place, and for the first reason why Washington ... what is envy as always ???
    1. Tyumen
      Tyumen 24 December 2012 09: 32
      +1
      They just know everything about Washington, but about Suvorov
      heard something, and even then not all).
      1. mda
        mda 24 December 2012 17: 42
        0
        and another one found the rating of the top 10 greatest commanders. Although Alexander Nevsky was not forgotten in this rating western.
        10. Richard I the Lionheart (1157-1199)
        9. Spartacus (110-71 BC)
        8. Saladin (1138-1193)
        7. Napoleon I Bonaparte (1769-1821)
        6. Alexander Nevsky (1221-1263)
        5. Gaius Julius Caesar (100-44 BC)
        4. Hannibal Barka (247-183 BC)
        3. Genghis Khan (1155 (or 1162) - 1227)
        2. Leonid I (until 520 B.C.E. - 480 B.C.)
        1. Alexander of Macedon (356-323 BC)
        http://mport.bigmir.net/war/1513248-10-velichajshih-polkovodcev-mira
        1. mda
          mda 24 December 2012 17: 54
          +1
          And one more rating.http: //www.moitop.com/index.php/nauka/istoriya. Do not think so.
          10th place - George Washington



          The first president of the United States of America, truly the greatest American commander. It was thanks to him that the Continental Army defeated the British army and Washington took over the presidency of the United States. He is considered the greatest personality in US history.

          9th place - Jeanne d'Arc



          A simple peasant girl who taught the French army to fight the invaders in the early 15th century. Perhaps it can not be attributed to the greatest commanders, but how many women do you know who were as brave as Jeanne? For courage, she takes the honorable 9th place.

          8th place - Napoleon Bonaparte



          Napoleon could be called the greatest commander in history, but this can not be done for one simple reason, he left the battlefield a loser and more than once. His army suffered the biggest defeat at Waterloo. Having conquered all of Europe at the turn of the 18th and 19th centuries, Napoleon spent his life on St. Helena as a prisoner, if not for this fact and his defeat, he could have been called the greatest commander in history.

          7th place - Saladin (Salah ad-Din)



          One of the few Muslim rulers and commanders that Europeans admired. Saladin was considered a model of honor and decency. His greatest deed was the capture of Jerusalem and the defeat of the invincible army of the crusaders.

          6th place - William the Conqueror



          This Norman conquered England in 1066, thus changing the future of Europe. In a short time, William was able to create a fleet and an army, improve laws, build the best defensive fortresses in the world, and it was precisely because of him that many French borrowings came into English. If you look at his military activities, he is noticeably inferior to many on this list, but given history, it was England that became the most famous power in the world, largely thanks to its reforms.

          5th place - Dmitry Donskoy



          He defeated the invincible Mongol horde in 1380 on the Kulikovo field. His victory showed the Slavs the long-awaited path to a free life. Under his rule, the Kremlin was built. It can be called the forefather of modern Russia.

          4th place - Hannibal Barca



          The legendary wrestler of 3-2 centuries BC e with the nascent great Roman Empire. He did not know defeats in battles. However, his homeland did not support him. Carthage did not consider Rome a serious enemy and the Romans soon captured it.

          3rd place - Tamerlan (Timur)



          Revived the withering Mongol Empire at the end of the 14th century and, fortunately, bypassed the Slavic lands. It is considered the second commander of the great empire after Genghis Khan, who conquered almost the whole world.

          2nd place - Genghis Khan



          The founder of one of the greatest empires and the conqueror of the lands of ancient Russia. He had no equal at the turn of the 11th and 12th centuries. His army destroyed the Chinese Empire, Baghdad, the Khorezmshah state and most of the Russian principalities.

          1st place - Alexander the Great



          The greatest commander of all time. Created a huge empire by force of arms for three hundred years BC. e. But I must say that in fact the empire did not survive its leader. With all this, his military exploits still impress contemporaries. The army of Alexander, lacking a numerical advantage, was able to win all possible battles. Alexander captured the floor of the world, and if not for his early death, perhaps he would have become the most powerful ruler of all time. But as a commander, he is really the best and strongest.
    2. Prometey
      Prometey 24 December 2012 09: 47
      +1
      zstalkerzz
      What kind of rating is this?
      Although they probably have their own criteria, Washington created a new state with his victories, and Suvorov supposedly simply fought, gaining victories. There is no other explanation.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 24 December 2012 14: 17
        +3
        Quote: Prometey
        What kind of rating is this?


        and in our Krasnokokshaysk, the rating of the West is much lower than the rating of the flea bug;
        and the fact that:

        Quote: zstalkerzz
        although the West in its ratings of commanders Suvorov puts in the last place, and for the first reason for some reason Washington ...


        we Krasnokoksha residents do not care from the high bell tower, what they think in the West laughing
    3. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 24 December 2012 10: 43
      0
      Quote: zstalkerzz
      The West in its ratings of commanders Suvorov puts in the last place, and for the first time for some reason Washington ...


      laughing well, who would doubt ... especially the "greatness" of Washington laughing by the way, can someone remind you of what such a "great" victory this great strategy and tacHtiH won laughing That's how much he did not try and could not remember any epochal battles in which this "military genius" won.
      1. Prometey
        Prometey 24 December 2012 10: 47
        +1
        Sakhalininsk
        And what kind of victories could there be? The so-called War of Independence - the dismantling of two village gangs - is all much dull and banal than portrayed in Hollywood films, even if they are filmed by such talents as Mel Gibson (film "The Patriot").
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 24 December 2012 14: 24
        0
        Sakhalininsk

        Quote: Sakhalininets
        by the way, can someone remind you of what such a "great" victory this great strategy and tacHtiH won

        He fought against the French, exterminated the Indians, sat in captivity, resigned, it seems to be a colonel, as the Commander-in-Chief had five years in a row raked from the British - this is actually the whole career as a military man.
        1. Sakhalininsk
          Sakhalininsk 24 December 2012 15: 31
          +1
          Quote: Karlsonn
          He fought against the French, exterminated the Indians, sat in captivity, resigned, it seems to be a colonel, as the Commander-in-Chief had five years in a row raked from the British - this is actually the whole career as a military man.


          Well, these are well-known facts that, to put it mildly, are not suitable for the greatest of the greats compared with which our Alexander Vasilievich, so luzer many ...
          I thought that Washington Martians chopped the lost with a saber in the Klorada desert ... or, at worst, Cthulhu poked his ass in the swamps of Louisiana with a bayonet ... otherwise the rating and actions with its rating do not fit laughing
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 24 December 2012 15: 49
            0
            Sakhalininsk

            Quote: Sakhalininets
            but somehow the rating and actions with his rating do not fit


            who made the rating, that and slippers, in our Krasnokokshaysk ratings are completely inshi.
        2. mda
          mda 24 December 2012 17: 21
          +1
          Quote: Karlsonn
          He fought against the French, exterminated the Indians, sat in captivity, resigned, it seems to be a colonel, as the Commander-in-Chief had five years in a row raked from the British - this is actually the whole career as a military man.

          In short, bad to put it mildly
    4. mda
      mda 24 December 2012 17: 26
      0
      Quote: zstalkerzz
      Suvorov puts his ratings of commanders in last place, and for the first reason why Washington ... what is envy, as always ???

      Here I found the rating of the western top 5 greatest commanders in the history of MDA.
      5. Adolf Hitler
      4. Genghis Khan
      3. Napoleon Bonaparte
      2. Guy Julius Caesar
      1. Alexander the Great
      http://basetop.ru/top-5-velichayshih-polkovodtsev-v-istorii/
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 24 December 2012 17: 55
        +1
        mda

        strange rating, Genghis Khan and Macedon won much more than Hitler, Caesar and Napoleon. request
        1. mda
          mda 24 December 2012 18: 06
          +1
          Quote: Karlsonn
          strange rating, Genghis Khan and Macedon won much more than Hitler, Caesar and Napoleon.

          And I'm talking about the same thing. And I'm sorry, not in the topic rating, but in my opinion interesting.
          10th place - ST-6 team (USA)



          The main special forces in the United States at sea. The group can conduct military operations using unconventional methods, fight terrorism, and free hostages.

          9th place - Detachment Delta. USA



          Created in 1976. Initially, it was planned to organize a group based on the Green Berets, but the US Armed Forces decided to create new forces.

          8th place - FSK. (Norway)



          The group was created in 1982. She is trained to work on oil platforms.

          7th place - Cobra (Austria)



          The unit was formed in 1978. The total number is 200 people.

          6th place - BBE (Netherlands)



          The best anti-terrorist squad of the Royal Navy of the Netherlands. The special unit gained fame in 1977 when soldiers of the detachment neutralized the terrorists who had captured a train in the south of the country.

          5th place - GIGN. (France)



          The group was created to combat Muslim terrorism in France. Initially consisted of 15 volunteer gendarmes. To date, the total number of units is 200 people.

          4th place - SAS. (United Kingdom)



          It is the main anti-terrorist unit of England, created during the Second World War.

          3rd place - GSG-9 Group. (Germany)



          It was formed in 1973, on the anniversary of the terrorist attack at the Olympics in Munich. Main task: suppression of terrorist acts in Germany.

          2nd place - Sayeret Matkal (Israel)



          Known as “compound 269 ″. The military unit has an increased secrecy stamp and is subordinate only to the chief of the general staff. The main purpose: carrying out sabotage and reconnaissance operations in Israel and beyond.

          1st place - Group “A” of the KGB (USSR)



          More commonly known as Alpha.

          The main task of the special forces - operations to prevent various terrorist attacks and the release of hostages. Also, Alpha fighters are involved in other FSB operations of increased complexity.
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 24 December 2012 19: 09
            +2
            mda

            Quote: mda-a
            1st place - Group “A” of the KGB (USSR)

            belay I can’t believe my eyes!
            1. mda
              mda 24 December 2012 19: 41
              +1
              Quote: Karlsonn
              I can’t believe my eyes!

              And I was surprised too
        2. mda
          mda 24 December 2012 19: 41
          0
          Quote: Karlsonn
          strange rating, won much more than

          So here Genghis Khan and Macedon are the first, and Hitler, Caesar and Napoleon are the last
  3. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 24 December 2012 10: 07
    0
    Yeah at that time, people were from a different meat than now.
    1. xan
      xan 24 December 2012 11: 33
      0
      maybe you're from another
      most of the officers who fought in Chechnya have no complaints against soldiers, this site is full of articles
      I have a cousin who fought in the soldiers, came abruptly matured, said that the most important thing in the war was trust in the senior bosses.
      and then it was easier for the soldiers in this regard, that it was not the name of the Catherine’s warriors, it was a legend. well, Suvorov himself, of course, indisputable military authority
      1. MilaPhone
        MilaPhone 25 December 2012 07: 27
        +1
        Quote: xan
        maybe you're from another

        Yes, I'm from another! I am trained in modern methods of warfare, where opponents often do not see each other. And in those days when people are shoulder to shoulder, when "squares on a redoubt", and cannonballs burst into the dense ranks of close ranks of soldiers, I would have been just cannon fodder.
        This is my opinion, so YOU ​​Khan, never mind.
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 24 December 2012 14: 18
      -2
      MilaPhone

      I'm sorry, but what kind of meat are you from?
      1. MilaPhone
        MilaPhone 25 December 2012 07: 30
        +2
        Quote: Karlsonn
        I'm sorry, but what kind of meat are you from?

        Goodbye
        I, from the Soviet era of the Cold War.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 25 December 2012 22: 16
          0
          MilaPhone

          then your statement is at least strange.
  4. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 24 December 2012 13: 03
    +1
    Another Day of Military Glory of Russia. Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov is a real historical actor and an entire era. Ishmael is another reminder for the sobering up of the new Ottoman imperialists.
  5. Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 24 December 2012 14: 08
    +2



    Diorama "Assault of the fortress of Izmail." Ukraine
    Izmail Museum of A.V. Suvorov - a museum dedicated to the victory of the great Russian commander A.V. Suvorov, the capture of the fortress of Izmail. This is the only Suvorov museum dedicated to a specific battle, a specific victory of the commander. A diorama of the assault on the fortress is exhibited.
    The museum was founded in 1946 and is considered the second most important after the St. Petersburg State Memorial Museum of A.V. Suvorov. Its opening for visitors took place on November 7, 1947. It is the main tourist attraction of Izmail.

    http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/stonochka/tags/ukraina/view/441502?page=0
    hi
  6. Ukraine
    Ukraine 24 December 2012 15: 28
    -3
    It’s not irrelevant for these articles that it’s not about the Cossacks, for half of them there are half and no boules without shabel for themselves, and a bagato call for no reason, as well as for the first time I recognized this forte Pasha iz kapitulyatsіyu that I myself Suvorov recognized the very same De Rіbas by refusing George 2 degrees, not Suvorov.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 24 December 2012 15: 56
      +3
      Ukraine

      Quote: Ukraine
      half of a ya’s yuli’s yaki boules are without shabel, and a bagato’s call is without zbroi,


      Yeah, the Cossacks were unarmed into battle by the NKVD detachments!


      Quote: Ukraine
      I know that I’ve got Cossacks recognizing tsu fortress and I’m very new to Pasha iz kapitulyatsіyu that I myself Suvorov recognized


      Cap so Suvorov had nothing to do with the capture of Ishmael? So I walked by, smoked in the corner?


      Quote: Ukraine
      De Rіbas herself having rejected George 2 degrees, not Suvorov


      Suvorov was appointed lieutenant colonel of the Preobrazhensky regiment, which was a great honor.
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 24 December 2012 16: 28
        +2
        Figue without a button accordion ..
        not entirely correct .. the article does not say about the Cossacks ...
        Yes, Russian in black is writteno - Cossacks "without zbrui" were - 8 thousand dismounted Don, 4 thousand Black Sea ...
        Do you have eyes? Or how?
        ..
        And why suddenly the Cossacks .. "without a zbrui" were? They fought ... how ... rode horses? Or walked on foot? What then are these - Cossacks?
        Anyway ... the Cossacks just got hold of that ... shortened peaks?
        Or maybe it's all - were the sticks? From bast shoes?
        ...
        Well, in short ... Cossacks-the death of the Turks !!!
        And Suvorov so ... looked from the side.
        Ehhhhhhh ....
        1. Ukraine
          Ukraine 24 December 2012 16: 36
          -3
          I didn’t show that I was amazed at Suvorov’s side, but I was dry land vіdvіlіkali and boules pіdtrimkoy for vііsk, as I deceived De Rіbas і plan for the accumulation of fortunes for a long time since the additions to Suvorov.
          1. Igarr
            Igarr 24 December 2012 16: 45
            +1
            Come on...
            right this De Ribas - Jack Sparrow of some kind ..
            NEVER strongholds or forts were captured from the sea. From the ships.
            ..
            And the sailor, on the shore of the belligerent - already the Marine Corps - is called.
            ..
            By the way .. 200 grenadiers and 300 Cossacks-Cossacks ... this is a good help to the whole army.
            This is HAAAroshaya such a splinter .. in the ass to the Turks. Well done .... OUR.
            OURS, I repeat once again ... and not the Cossacks.
            1. Ukraine
              Ukraine 24 December 2012 17: 00
              -2
              Read the report of Suvorov Potjomkіnu. Look in front of the discussion with the facts and figures.
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 24 December 2012 18: 00
                +1
                Quote: Ukraine
                Read the report of Suvorov Potjomkіnu.


                finally decide what language you use


                Quote: Ukraine
                Look in front of the discussion with the facts and figures.


                Who would say that.

                about the unarmed Cossacks, who were driven into the attack on the fortress with bare hands was a common practice in Russia, about the fact that Suvorov did not take Ishmael. Did you tell us what else you are happy about?
                I’m creepy as I like alternative fiction, amuse the old man.
                1. Ukraine
                  Ukraine 24 December 2012 19: 04
                  -1
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  Quote: Ukraine
                  Read the report of Suvorov Potjomkіnu.


                  finally decide what language you use

                  But what about you? Can you be affiliated with similarity and growth?
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 24 December 2012 19: 13
                    +2
                    Quote: Ukraine
                    But what about you?


                    personally to me in parallel, but if you started a sentence in Russian, which one do you finish in Ukrainian?

                    Quote: Ukraine
                    Can you be affiliated with similarity and growth?

                    laughing Your surzhik is talking to me.
                    1. Ukraine
                      Ukraine 24 December 2012 19: 19
                      -1
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      Quote: Ukraine
                      Can you be affiliated with similarity and growth?

                      laughing at me, your surzhik.

                      That quote surzhik. I knew the deceit, de mercy. Those who shchi vi cited - my Ukrainian.
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      happy
                      1. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 24 December 2012 21: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: Ukraine
                        Read the report of Suvorov Potjomkіnu


                        waiting for a reaction.
            2. Rowicz
              Rowicz 27 December 2012 10: 50
              0
              Not quite right "NEVER were fortresses or forts captured from the sea. From ships."
              I will remind you the assault on the island of Corfu
  7. wulf66
    wulf66 24 December 2012 15: 34
    +2
    SUVOROV GLORY !!!
  8. Ukraine
    Ukraine 24 December 2012 16: 07
    -3
    Karlsonn,
    Zbroi is simply not a blunder. Such is the practice of the Russian Rosha Bula, take the very same Russian-Swedish vіyna.
    Suvorov Buv, ale u yakostі vіysk pіdtrimki. Vishche Geogrіya 2 classes tіlki Georgіy pershogo. The first one was given for a wigrash viyn, another for a wigrash of an important battle. It’s just that even more politicians have rooted, what’s the hero of our mother’s general, and not the Spanish, I’ve been happy with history, but I’m kindly better to know that I’ve been able to tell people Cossacks.
    “The Empress knew who the protagonist of this battle was.
    De Ribas was awarded the 2nd Degree George, a sword showered with diamonds, and an estate of 800 souls. Such an order is given to those "who personally lead the army, will take the fortress." MI Kutuzov also received George, but the 3rd degree. Richelieu received George 4th degree. And Suvorov was promoted only to lieutenant colonel of the Preobrazhensky regiment - the very one whose colonel was Catherine. It is clear that the empress considered Suvorov's participation in this ritual. Yes, Suvorov knew about it himself.


    ... Describing his trip with Pushkin to Izmail at the end of 1821, IP Liprandi notes that Pushkin was "very sensitive to a feat." The details of the storming of Ishmael were well known to him. And the only thing that struck the poet's imagination was "how DeRibas could have climbed this stone wall from the side of the Danube."
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 24 December 2012 16: 54
      +1
      Why do you, precious Ukraine, write Ukrainian?
      I can read Ukrainian, although I did not specifically learn Ukrainian.
      Insertions in Russian do.
      Show - what are you ... patriot? And so it is visible.
      De Ribas was awarded especially - because he was the instigator. His luck with the island, his defeat of the flotilla - this is the reason.
      And don’t have to think about how .. rowing boats and forelocks .. climb the walls.
      Even Pushkin grumbled.
      And for us, cunningly enlightened - as much as God's light.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 24 December 2012 17: 52
        +2
        Igarr

        Quote: Igarr
        Why do you, precious Ukraine, write Ukrainian?


        Thank you for not being Chinese !!!
        otherwise we would be ofigeli to take apart the hieroglyphs laughing .
      2. Ukraine
        Ukraine 24 December 2012 19: 01
        -4
        How can you read what problems? Does it not befit? The inserts are made in Russian because of copying, as I don’t need to transfer them to Ukrainian here. Shodo kozakiv and de Ribas. Then you can learn from Suvorov's official documents, his reports, de vin will describe the course of the battle, and it is clearly stated there that the Cossacks took the "cavalor" at once from De Ribas. You can also read "kavalor", read also yake vin mav meaning. For I want to write my respect for any given day.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 24 December 2012 19: 18
          +2
          Ukraine

          Quote: Ukraine
          I’m sending you my message for the respect of the day.


          in fact, you yourself did not answer any of the replicas of your opponents.


          Quote: Ukraine
          Can you read something like a problem?


          Here I am about the same - Thank you for not being Chinese, otherwise we would have been tormented;
          Do you know Russian? Can you write in Russian? Do you admit the idea that not everyone knows Ukrainian here? What is for some, it is not immediately clear what the burulki are.
          Is mutual politeness alien to you?
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 24 December 2012 17: 51
      +2
      Ukraine

      Quote: Ukraine
      Zbroi is simply not a blunder. Such is the practice of the Russian Rosha Bula, take the very same Russian-Swedish vіyna.


      lying!
      Learn to read in Russian! read carefully!
      .... The weakness of the infantry was the presence of a significant number of dismounted Cossacks, armed mainly with shortened peaks and sabers ...


      Quote: Ukraine
      Taka practice i іmperskіy Rosіkh Bula


      Stalin reached out?


      Quote: Ukraine
      Suvorov Buv, ale u yakostі vіysk pіdtrimki.


      in your reality it was possible and so, in ours differently.


      Quote: Ukraine
      і plan for the accumulation of fortunes for a long time after additions to Suvorov.


      lying again! What for? The glory of Russian weapons such as you do not miss.


      Quote: Ukraine
      Vishche Geogrіya 2 classes tіlki Georgіy pershogo. The first one was given for a wigrash viyn, another for a wigrash of an important battle.


      learn history, at least for a good-for-nothing wiki open:
      ... Suvorov hoped for the assault on Ishmael to receive the rank of Field Marshal, but Potemkin, applying for his reward before the Empress, offered to award him with a medal and the rank of Guard Lieutenant Colonel or Adjutant General ....


      Quote: Ukraine
      It’s just that even today’s policies were rooted, what’s the hero’s main character of the Russian general, and not the Spanish and the main ideals of the history,


      learn Russian history, even the founder of the American fleet, Paul Jones, was made an admiral in advance when they were taken to the Russian fleet, many foreigners were awarded for services, this is only different in your Russophobia.


      Quote: Ukraine
      But Suvorov was only promoted to lieutenant colonel of the Preobrazhensky regiment — the very one whose colonel was Catherine. It is clear that the empress considered Suvorov’s participation in this matter to be ritual. Yes, Suvorov himself knew about it.


      Dear Friend, let it be known to you that before this there were always ten Lieutenant Colonel Guards in Russia, for the sake of Suvorov they introduced the eleventh post of Lieutenant Colonel Guard in the Russian army.


      Quote: Ukraine
      this is "how DeRibas could climb this stone wall from the Danube side."


      Guided by your strange logic, it can be argued that Colonel A.I. Negoda took Berlin, and Zhukov and Konev had nothing to do with this.
      1. Ukraine
        Ukraine 24 December 2012 18: 49
        -3
        You need to see the words and okremo before the skin in antonymi.
        Karlsonn, what are you talking about? Tsіkavo marvel at the sight of you when you think about it.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 24 December 2012 19: 22
          +1
          Ukraine

          Quote: Ukraine
          You need to see the words and okremo before the skin in antonymi.


          I myself decide how and what to write, and give advice to my dad.


          Quote: Ukraine
          Karlsonn, what are you talking about?


          in the same sandbox I did not play with you, spare me the "poking".


          Quote: Ukraine
          Tsіkavo marvel at the sight of you when you think about it.


          Sight? - Eagle! bully
          1. xan
            xan 24 December 2012 21: 14
            +1
            joke
            some too-head Seluk rubs that Ishmael took De Ribas. And the men didn’t know.
            Napoleon's words "the battle was won not by the one who advised and made the plan, but the one who directly led the troops, who took responsibility for the implementation of this plan."
            Without exception, all the chiefs of the columns carried out the orders of Suvorov, including the Spaniard. Refusal to comply - trial and appeal to soldiers. To lead the troops in such a case, you need to have not only administrative. but also moral authority.
            Selyuk, your heroes Mazepa with Shukhevych
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 24 December 2012 21: 39
              +4
              xan

              I myself am amazed so that it all scratches in indecent places ...
              here, that someone is belittling the feat and courage of Major General Ribas, is someone belittling the merits to the Fatherland of the Don and Zaporozhye Cossacks?
              No, but you have to get up with the saber to the mast and say:
              - The fact that they wove you here is a lie! I'll tell you the TRUTH right now, which has been hidden from you for centuries!
              Ishmael Suvorov did not take!
              The Cossacks were thrown into the assault without weapons! (direct creation of Mikhalkov before his eyes --- assault on the citadel)
              Cossacks in the Russian army have always been sent to battle unarmed! (supposedly secret Russian tactics)

              it seems that you are discussing with a resident of the constellation Alpha Centauri request .
        2. holding
          holding 24 December 2012 22: 01
          -1
          Now say what you wanted in Russian.
  9. George
    George 24 December 2012 18: 58
    +1
    I can imagine how European friends of the Ottomans raged about building the fortress, and who considered it impregnable. I read somewhere that when Europe learned about the capture of Ishmael, to say that she was in shock means to say nothing. And our grief, the Austrians all the time beaten by the Turks only gnashed their teeth from greed and envy, well, in general, they did what they could best.
    1. xan
      xan 25 December 2012 19: 00
      +1
      still would
      then the battles where a thousand people were killed were considered bloody
      the battle of Valmy, the first victory of republican France, about 900 people were killed, the battle of Kunersdorf, after which the Prussians in the Seven Years' War became "without claims", about 10 thousand were killed on both sides. Here 30 thousand Turks were killed, 10 thousand were taken prisoner, of which half did not live even three days. Plus Russian losses, also reaching several thousand killed.
      it’s all the same what to take and cut out a third of the army, which is in the top ten, along with civilians that have come to hand.
  10. holding
    holding 24 December 2012 21: 58
    -2
    I am glad that the VO site is fueled by RUSSIAN egregor, although a large (emphasis on the second syllable) part of the users is not even from Russia.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 25 December 2012 22: 24
      0
      holding

      "Russian" is an adjective!
  11. svit55
    svit55 24 December 2012 22: 51
    +1
    Glory to Potemkin, Ushakov, De Ribas, Kutuzov, Platov (he did not drink then, as at Borodino), all the Russian wars, commanders and commanders who won under the leadership of SUVOROV. And they did not care which way the Danube flows.
  12. Kibl
    Kibl 25 December 2012 16: 42
    +1
    Who cares whoever fought there, everyone did one great thing, once again the glory of the Russian weapons, the courage and courage of the Russian soldier proved to be true! And the Cossacks are not only Ukrainians, everyone was missing there, read N.V. Gogol!
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 25 December 2012 22: 27
      0
      Kibl

      Quote: KIBL
      ! And the Cossacks are not only Ukrainians, everyone was missing there, read N.V. Gogol!


      Don Cossacks, for the most part, resettled Cossacks from Ukraine.
      But personally, the national composition of the Russian army that took Ishmael finally makes me a little shiver.
      1. xan
        xan 26 December 2012 00: 56
        0
        Kuban resettled from Ukraine
        and the Don separate song, as if they were before Ivan the Terrible and spoke Russian