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'Program failed': US decommissions littoral ship Sioux City after five years of service

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'Program failed': US decommissions littoral ship Sioux City after five years of service

In the early 2000s, the US Navy launched the LCS program - "littoral [literally -" coastal "] combat ships", the cost of which at that time was estimated at $ 37 billion and included the supply of the fleet at least 52 fast [with a speed of 40 knots] and multi-purpose ships.


They had to perform a wide range of tasks by adding "mission modules" depending on the tasks assigned: ASW and ASW, trawling, reconnaissance, coastal surveillance, special operations. And all this with a crew reduction of up to 40 sailors thanks to their powerful automation.


However, this program has since failed.

- says the Opex360 edition.

Planned economies of scale fell short of expectations: the unit cost of the ship, estimated at $220 million, more than doubled. Reducing the number of crew turned out to be a bad idea, since it affected the maintenance of ships, the operation of which was accompanied by constant malfunctions. The most problematic was the PLO module from Raytheon.

Ultimately, the US Navy decided to write off several pennants that had recently been put into service ahead of schedule.

We decided it was best to decommission these ships and invest [saved] resources into making units more maneuverable and more suitable for future combat operations.

- said the Minister of Defense.

The ships USS Freedom (LCS-1), USS Independence (LCS-2) and Coronado (LCS-4) have already been decommissioned. These were the oldest of the series. A fourth has just joined them: USS Sioux City (LCS-11), which entered service exactly 4 years and 9 months ago, that is, not even up to five years of service.

According to Pentagon budget projections, the operating costs of the LCS will be as significant as those of the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer. Therefore, their write-off will continue.

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  1. Sith
    Sith 16 August 2023 19: 15
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    Shipbuilding is long and expensive ... and even taking some kind of prototype into the ordered series ...
    You can refuse it after how many copies, as perspectives and realities have changed + technologies have improved
    Well, they were messing around with Zumvolt ... but they didn’t go further than 3 ships
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 16 August 2023 19: 22
      +12
      Quote from Sith
      You can refuse it after how many copies, as perspectives and realities have changed + technologies have improved

      Only now they are written off for a different reason - the ships were built according to an initially vicious, erroneous concept.
      1. Machito
        Machito 16 August 2023 19: 41
        +3
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Quote from Sith
        You can refuse it after how many copies, as perspectives and realities have changed + technologies have improved

        Only now they are written off for a different reason - the ships were built according to an initially vicious, erroneous concept.

        Greetings, Andrey. hi
        I haven't read your articles for a long time.
        The mistake of the concept of littoral ships is that a whole bunch of combat modules lie on the shore with a dead load (waiting for their turn on duty on the ship), part of the crew (specialists in the management and operation of spare coastal combat modules) slip on the shore, changing modules takes a lot of time (the ship is too spends a lot of time in the port).
        We don't need to do that.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 16 August 2023 20: 32
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          Quote: Bearded
          We don't need to do that.

          The fact that the Americans failed does not mean that the concept itself is bad.
          Think about it - for example, new technologies have appeared in the same PLO module - so not the whole corral is changed, but simply replaced by a separate module.
          That many modules just lie in stock?
          So, in fact, a small base, with only a few ships, has the same functionality as a large fleet.
          Of course, this concept is good only in peacetime, since the enemy, having sunk three or four ships, turns out to deprive the entire base of combat capability. In wartime, in a collision with a strong enemy, quantity is no less important than quality.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 17 August 2023 08: 28
            +1
            Quote: Shurik70
            Think about it - for example, new technologies have appeared in the same PLO module - so not the whole corral is changed, but simply replaced by a separate module.

            Yes. But think about this. It turns out that we are initially, at the development stage, forced to shove future modules into the Procrustean bed of the dimensions of the combat module and the energy of existing ships. And thus, at the development stage, we limit its combat capabilities. By the way, the Americans faced this with their UVP - the entire fleet is "planted" on them, and now the missiles are forced to be made to specific dimensions, which is far from always justified.
          2. 75 Sergey
            75 Sergey 17 August 2023 14: 20
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            The module lies in one place, and the ship, for objective reasons, is different - a completely immaculate scheme + a bunch of generalists (both a reaper, and a shnet, and a gamer at heart)
        2. bukhach
          bukhach 17 August 2023 03: 41
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          In aviation, this idea is quite a place to be, so you need to work on the shortcomings and not immediately dismiss a completely workable concept.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 17 August 2023 08: 24
            +1
            Quote: Buhach
            In aviation, this idea is quite a place to be.

            Does not have
        3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 17 August 2023 08: 23
          +2
          Good morning! hi
          Quote: Bearded
          I haven't read your articles for a long time.

          Alas, now there is no way to write them.
          Quote: Bearded
          The mistake of the concept of littoral ships is

          I completely agree, modularity is an absolute evil. But the concept of littoral contains other errors. Firstly, it is completely unclear why it was necessary to make a ship the size of a small frigate to operate off enemy coasts. Well, for what? Replacement for "H. Perry"? But its functionality is to ensure the safety of transatlantic convoys, and not a littoral. Replacing the Avengers? He is so big for a minesweeper. In general, the ship has no clear tasks.
          Hence the oddities of TK. Why does such a ship need a speed of 45 knots? But in order to achieve it, it was necessary to go both to lightening the hulls and to a very powerful power plant, thereby (under conditions of limited displacement) making the ship obviously toothless, since there is regrettably little left for the payload? Well, then - the minimum number of crew. And in the event of combat damage, will the Werther robot fight for survivability? Automation and a quarter of the functionality does not overlap. On the plus side, any overly-automated platform naturally becomes prohibitively expensive, both to build and maintain.
          The ship must have a reasonable combination of automation and crew.
          1. Soldatov V.
            Soldatov V. 17 August 2023 13: 12
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            Hello Andrey!
            There are more than 20 of these ships configured. A lot of power in terms of quantity. So America decided to write off these ships, but where? Sell ​​to allies, even Ukraine.
            So that the ship does not fall apart on the move, its speed will be reduced, for example, to 30 knots. We did this with our "Rockets" and "Meteors". This is a very decent speed. Sailing area? Black Sea, Mediterranean Sea, East China Sea, Sea of ​​Japan, Baltic Sea, Red Sea, Persian Gulf.
            Not so simple. The design of these ships implies ocean navigation. In any case, they can be equipped with universal anti-ship missiles capable of firing along the coast.
            Best regards soldier
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 18 August 2023 08: 26
              +1
              Hello Vladimir! hi
              Quote: V.
              So America decided to write off these ships, but where? Sell ​​to allies, even Ukraine.

              They won’t buy it :) It’s expensive, technically underdeveloped. If it breaks - drag it to the USA for repairs? In terms of armament, it does not meet the needs of European countries.
              Unless they give it as a gift.
              Quote: V.
              So that the ship does not fall apart on the move, its speed will be reduced, for example, to 30 knots.

              It was rumored that the safe speed for these ships (Freedom) is 12 knots. And at high speeds, very rapid wear of the main gearboxes follows.
      2. isv000
        isv000 16 August 2023 19: 50
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        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Only now they are written off for a different reason - the ships were built according to an initially vicious, erroneous concept.

        I assure you - if something is being developed in the States, then the loot has already passed through the necessary schemes ...
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 August 2023 19: 29
    +5
    Neighing, the Americans call the ships of this series in folklore: "Little lousy boat." laughing
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 16 August 2023 19: 54
      +2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Neighing, the Americans are the ships of this series in folklore

      ... in folklore ...
      Sit down, 2..... laughing
  3. Reader 2013
    Reader 2013 16 August 2023 19: 32
    +3
    Well, it seems that we also fell for the modules, neither they nor we failed
  4. isv000
    isv000 16 August 2023 19: 47
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    US decommissions littoral ship Sioux City after five years of service

    The serfs will howl, long and drawn out, looking longingly at the big muzzle...
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 16 August 2023 19: 57
      +2
      isv000. First of all, the boys cannot afford such a boat financially. And the boys battleship "Mazepa" is being completed.
  5. pexotinec
    pexotinec 16 August 2023 19: 51
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    Judging by the statistics of the Americans, each new Wishlist then grows in price by two or even more times. They know how to sip.
  6. Beaver
    Beaver 16 August 2023 20: 06
    +2
    Obviously, there are also a lot of fools in the US Navy. This is generally a disease of many navies
    1. Reader 2013
      Reader 2013 17 August 2023 00: 14
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      As you delicately put it, about many navies wink very thin
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  7. petrol cutter
    petrol cutter 16 August 2023 21: 08
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    If 40 knots should have given out, what is in the photo. That is a utopia.
    What power should the power plant be in order to disperse such a displacing dish? And how much space will it take up? Plus a can of fuel. Which this same power plant will fiercely absorb at full speed ... To ensure autonomy, such speeds ... No.
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 16 August 2023 22: 43
      +2
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      If 40 knots should have given out, what is in the photo. That is a utopia.
      What power should the power plant be in order to disperse such a displacing dish? And how much space will it take up? Plus a can of fuel. Which this same power plant will fiercely absorb at full speed ... To ensure autonomy, such speeds ... No.

      Actually, on tests, Freedom gave 47 knots ...
      2 turbines PP Mt 30
    2. JD1979
      JD1979 17 August 2023 01: 06
      -2
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      What power should the power plant be in order to disperse such a displacing dish?

      Normal power))) They have such.
      I envy the Americans in this regard. Their main problem is to make a choice. And we have no choice or technical capability ... Since the time of the kings, we have suffered without engines in all areas and we are suffering.
  8. bukhach
    bukhach 17 August 2023 03: 34
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    Quote: Shurik70
    strong opponent quantity is as important as quality.

    I don’t agree with you, after all, quality is superior in importance to quantity, it, quantity, is just one of the usual, so to speak, conditions that make up success, and the degree of quality there in equipment, personnel, supplies is always a cut above.