Foreign experts: Today's attacks on Yuzhmash testify to Ukraine's inability to cover even strategically important enterprises with an air defense system

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Foreign experts: Today's attacks on Yuzhmash testify to Ukraine's inability to cover even strategically important enterprises with an air defense system

Foreign military experts comment on today's strike by the Russian Armed Forces on the Yuzhmash plant in Dnepropetrovsk (renamed Dnipro by the Kyiv regime).

Four Winged missiles (most likely, "Kalibr-NK") hit the plant's workshops and the power supply facility of the enterprise, which previously produced rockets for space exploration. Recently, several workshops of a large plant in Dnepropetrovsk were used to produce military equipment, including strike Drones and engines for them.



The Russian missiles were aimed precisely at the target with a small time interval. None of the missiles were obstructed by the Ukrainian system Defense. Moreover, it was noteworthy that no air raid alarm was announced in Dnepropetrovsk before the strikes.

Turkish military experts write that unhindered Russian strikes on Yuzhmash speak volumes. First of all, these strikes show that Ukraine is not able to cover even strategically important enterprises with an air defense system. And it is concluded that if the Turkish company is really going to open a plant for the production of Bayraktar drones in Ukraine, then “one can only guess how many days this enterprise will have time to work after the start of the production cycle and before launching a missile attack on it.”

In the United States, they write that Ukraine “catastrophically lacks anti-aircraft missile systems,” and the words of the Ukrainian command about “the majority of downed missiles” are a banal lie.



Experts also pay attention to the nature of the explosions during attacks on Yuzhmash. These explosions testify to the increase in the power of the warheads of the Kalibr cruise missiles.

Earlier it was reported that at the beginning of the year, new equipment, including power supply systems, was delivered to Yuzhmash from abroad. This equipment was used for military production.
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  1. +30
    15 August 2023 22: 16
    Right. Decommunization must be complete. Do not leave a single enterprise built during the "Soviet occupation".
    By the way, decommunization in this part can be proclaimed the third goal of the NWO, along with demilitarization and denazification.
    1. -3
      15 August 2023 22: 35
      Well, help in decommunization is certainly good! Why are there bridges? Does Russia have methods against bridges? A bridge is a tough nut to crack even for today's technology!? In defense of Russia, we can say that the impudent Saxons do not! Why such a flaw?
      1. +3
        15 August 2023 22: 44
        Well, what are you so rested on these bridges !!! The Antonovsky Bridge was bombed by Hymers for a month and a half. Not cheap rockets by the way. They riddled the whole but the whole supports remained. And there are more than fifty of these bridges. Tired of breaking.
        1. +1
          16 August 2023 05: 37
          By the way, the "owners" asked Kyiv about the condition and number of the remaining "Himers" ..., and in response, silence.)
        2. 0
          16 August 2023 10: 06
          Well, what are you so rested on these bridges !!!

          And he asked a good question. It turns out that in the arsenal of all countries there are no normal long-range weapons that do a good job with bridges! This is a flaw!
          1. -1
            16 August 2023 11: 08
            Enough already to conduct propaganda against our army, that it supposedly has weak missile forces and military aviation. The Russian Armed Forces have a huge number of missiles and bombs, as well as combat aircraft and other means of their delivery, with which bridges across the Dnieper, and, if necessary, also across other rivers, through which the supply and replenishment of VFU are carried out, can be destroyed dozens of times. There would be the will of the VPR of Russia. Well, if not completely destroy them, then in any case, bring down their individual spans or inflict other critical damage in order to stop the traffic flow along them. And there is no need to equate MLRS, even if even three times Hymars, with combat missiles and powerful air bombs. And in terms of combat power and range, rockets are many times inferior to them. Ukraine does not have air defense forces to cover these bridges, even partially. Especially against Daggers, Onyxes and other Russian best missiles and bombs. Especially with massive strikes and distracting actions.
            1. 0
              17 August 2023 11: 55
              We are planning (planing), and what are we going to do with the ferry crossings that exist in all the cities on the Dnieper where there are no bridges? And where there are bridges, it is not difficult to organize transportation by barges, of which there are enough in all river ports. Ukraine has been transporting military equipment and ammunition by road for a long time, and mainly since the beginning of the Central Military District. What do you say, are we going to sink all the barges and ferries? winked
          2. 0
            16 August 2023 12: 37

            And he asked a good question

            He asked an idiotic question that CIPSO made up for blondes and hamsters and other nerds.
            You seem to be the same. Let's check.
            The leading question "why?"
            I'm talking about bridges across the Dnieper.
            1. +1
              16 August 2023 15: 20
              Quote: bk316
              The leading question "why?"
              I even know the correct answer: Patamuchta gladiolus!
        3. +2
          16 August 2023 15: 10
          Quote: Sergey T19
          The Antonovsky Bridge was bombed by Hymers for a month and a half. Not cheap rockets by the way. They riddled the whole but the whole supports remained.

          And what can you tell us about the Chongarsky bridge, where in the photo one hole shines right in the center. Traffic was stopped for about a month. And explain to the Crimeans why, after that, prices in Crimea rose, the same gasoline at gas stations is more expensive than in Moscow, while the income of the population on the peninsula is an order of magnitude lower
          1. 0
            16 August 2023 15: 21
            Quote: Elephant
            The movement was stopped for about a month ... why did the prices in Crimea rise after that
            How did this affect the fighting and / or military successes?
        4. -2
          16 August 2023 15: 39
          Quote: Sergey T19
          Well, what are you so rested on these bridges !!! Antonovsky bridge was bombed by hymers for a month and a half

          Apparently, the Banderlogs themselves needed the Antonovsky Bridge. Otherwise, they would simply launch a good container with explosives and a GPS beacon downstream to the bridge ...
        5. -1
          16 August 2023 16: 08
          For some reason, the enemy rested on the idea of ​​demolishing bridges and is testing aqua drones. The Crimean bridge is constantly under attack. For now, aquadrones, and then maybe an ekranolet drone will be used. Why not? Low visibility and high speed may be able to more effectively solve the problem than a guided torpedo on two pontoons.
        6. +2
          16 August 2023 20: 21
          Quote: Sergey T19
          Well, what are you so rested on these bridges !!! The Antonovsky Bridge was bombed by Hymers for a month and a half. Not cheap rockets by the way. They riddled the whole but the whole supports remained. And there are more than fifty of these bridges. Tired of breaking.

          I think that the Russian army has not yet run out of ballistic missiles for Iskander, and if desired, 50 of them - one per bridge - will be able to find them. Or 100, to be sure.
          1. 0
            16 August 2023 20: 54
            Quote from Soldy21
            ballistic missiles for Iskander ... 50 of them - one per bridge

            There are 30 bridges on the Dnieper. 50 Iskanders for each is 1500 missiles. Seriously? And when the bridges are repaired (and they will definitely be repaired), then another 50?
            1. 0
              17 August 2023 00: 02
              Quote from: nik-mazur
              Quote from Soldy21
              ballistic missiles for Iskander ... 50 of them - one per bridge

              There are 30 bridges on the Dnieper. 50 Iskanders for each is 1500 missiles. Seriously? And when the bridges are repaired (and they will definitely be repaired), then another 50?

              One per bridge. One rocket, if it does not bring down the span, will make a huge hole in it, which makes the bridge unusable (=destroys). Two missiles will bring down the span for sure.
              1. 0
                17 August 2023 11: 19
                Quote from Soldy21
                One rocket, if it does not bring down the span, will make a huge hole in it, which makes the bridge unusable

                Fantasy. Practice does not confirm these predictions.
                1. 0
                  17 August 2023 23: 40
                  Quote from: nik-mazur
                  Quote from Soldy21
                  One rocket, if it does not bring down the span, will make a huge hole in it, which makes the bridge unusable

                  Fantasy. Practice does not confirm these predictions.

                  What are the predictions, what are you talking about? One rocket laid down one span of the Antonovsky bridge - a fact. So far, this is the only case of the shelling of the bridge by Iskander.
          2. 0
            18 August 2023 18: 04
            50... Do you want to turn bridges into tunnels to America???
      2. +6
        16 August 2023 00: 17
        Today, 22 30 Ukrainian air defense reports from the Primorsko-Akhtarsk region, Geranek launches were recorded, I hope we went to cut a window for Caliber in the Ukrainian air defense. goodOperation Kherson for Ukraine has begun. If you put a dash in the middle of the name of the city, then the name of the city takes on a different meaning, pleasant before lights out for us and sinister for the enemy.
        1. +3
          16 August 2023 04: 56
          Quote: tralflot1832
          If you put a dash in the middle of the name of the city, then the name of the city takes on a different meaning, pleasant before lights out for us and sinister for the enemy.

          I heard a story that when Catherine the Great was touring the southern provinces, Potemkin, afraid of competition, surrounded the empress with eunuchs. That's when she gave the name to the new city.
          Lie. In my opinion. lol Surely this anecdote was invented by the British during the break between the stories about "Ivan the Terrible" and the fables about "two million German women raped by Russians."
          1. 0
            17 August 2023 12: 05
            Last year we already renamed the city, I hope temporarily, saying "Khersnim" and jumped to the left bank. request
          2. +1
            21 November 2024 15: 20
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Potemkin surrounded the empress with eunuchs. It was then that she gave the name to the new city.
            Lie. In my opinion.

            They are lying. His Serene Highness and the Empress lived de facto as spouses. The relationship was free, but that was strictly their personal business.
        2. +3
          16 August 2023 05: 03
          Yes, everything was easier - the masters have long said:
        3. 0
          16 August 2023 05: 40
          Judging by Yuzhmash, it’s a complete failure of air defense. There would be a dozen more to add. But in Odessa, judging by the video in the cart, the air defense defense worked well.
          1. +1
            16 August 2023 10: 31
            Of course, air defense in Odessa worked well, the shopping center burned for a day.
      3. 0
        16 August 2023 12: 38
        Why are there bridges?

        Because there is NO point in destroying them.
        So understandable or should I chew it?
        1. +1
          16 August 2023 20: 18
          Quote: bk316
          Why are there bridges?

          Because there is NO point in destroying them.
          So understandable or should I chew it?

          Chew, please. I probably do not know something, but leaving the enemy army, 80% of which is on the right bank of the Dnieper, without ammunition, equipment, medicines, and reinforcements, does not seem to me such a bad idea. What are your thoughts?
          1. -1
            16 August 2023 21: 03
            Quote from Soldy21
            leave the enemy army, 80% of which is located on the right bank of the Dnieper, without ammunition, equipment, medicines, and replenishment

            And what makes you think that the army will be left without ammunition, equipment, medicines, and replenishment?
            Firstly, military cargo will be delivered by pontoons, prefabricated bridges, barges, rowing boats, on foot along the bottom, and how else they deliver everything you need without bridges, which is a common thing during war.
            Secondly, the bridges will be repaired. And not according to civil standards, but according to military standards, which is fifty times faster. All this needs to be monitored and re-bombed.
            Thirdly, half of the country is located on the left bank, where there is some kind of ammunition, equipment, medicines and replenishment, which will make it possible to fight for a very long time. For example, the Sixth Army of Paulus, in complete encirclement, resisted for three months. For more than a month, the remnants of the ukrotroops in Mariupol resisted. Why do the bridge breakers think that the half-million-strong group on the left bank will suddenly surrender if there are no bridges?
            All this does not mean that bridges and supply routes should not be destroyed in principle - it is necessary, but on time within the framework of a specific operation, when even a short-term interruption of supply means defeat. And gouging bridges just in case is pointless.
            1. +1
              16 August 2023 22: 08
              If one or two pillars of the bridge are demolished, then its quick restoration is doubtful. And if you also periodically check the state of destruction and do not allow it to be restored, then the bridge will not be restored at all. You can't carry much on pontoon bridges. Riding boats is funny. Tank on the oars?! Barges can also create problems.
              1. 0
                17 August 2023 11: 21
                Quote: North Caucasus
                If one or two bridge pillars are demolished

                If. In reality, only sappers are capable of this.

                Quote: North Caucasus
                You can't carry much on pontoon bridges
                In World War II, almost entire armies were transported by pontoons.
                1. -1
                  17 August 2023 22: 31
                  In reality, only sappers are capable of this.
                  Can high-precision weapons? Or is it not?
            2. +2
              17 August 2023 00: 41
              Quote from: nik-mazur
              And what makes you think that the army will be left without ammunition, equipment, medicines, and replenishment?

              From the fact that in Ukraine all this is not produced in any significant quantities, but is imported from the West. There are no bridges - and Western aid will not reach the LBS. In this case, the prospects for this half-million-strong group, which is infantry with an extreme shortage of heavy weapons and ammunition ... how to say ... are not the most promising. At a minimum, there can be no talk of any "counterattacks".
              Quote from: nik-mazur
              Firstly, military cargo will be delivered by pontoons, prefabricated bridges, barges, rowing boats, on foot along the bottom, and how else they deliver everything you need without bridges, which is a common thing during war.

              You write complete nonsense.
              Firstly, the capacity of pontoons, barges and TDs, compared to railway bridges, is negligible. Even if it is possible to organize these crossings (it will not succeed), the Armed Forces of Ukraine will experience an extreme shortage. And about the supply of the current grouping with rowing boats - no comments.
              Secondly, pontoon crossings are extremely vulnerable. If an Iskander is needed to destroy the bridge, then it will be enough to break the pontoon not just like Geranium, but even a few ammunition with the power of a Lancet or artillery shells.
              Quote from: nik-mazur
              Secondly, the bridges will be repaired. And not according to civil standards, but according to military standards, which is fifty times faster. All this needs to be monitored and re-bombed.

              And what do you think is the problem here? track? Even our satellite constellation will be enough for this. Shoot again? Of course it will. What's wrong here?
              I doubt that in Ukraine now, in principle, they can repair the bridge, but even if we assume that they manage to massively close up holes and replace spans, then repeated strikes, which are thousands of times less expensive than restoration work, just make the latter absolutely pointless .
              Quote from: nik-mazur
              Thirdly, half of the country is located on the left bank, where there is some kind of ammunition, equipment, medicines and replenishment, which will make it possible to fight for a very long time. For example, the Sixth Army of Paulus, in complete encirclement, resisted for three months. For more than a month, the remnants of the ukrotroops in Mariupol resisted. Why do the bridge breakers think that the half-million-strong group on the left bank will suddenly surrender if there are no bridges?

              Of course, it takes time for the cumulative effect to work. But in the end, a total shortage will lead to a real collapse of the enemy front. In such a drag, as now, we will also win - in 5-6 years Ukraine will run out of mobile resources. But it would not be bad at all to inflict a decisive defeat on the enemy earlier than this time, spending less of their lives and a little more missiles. A thousand missiles were found for senseless shelling of transformer booths - and there will be a hundred or two on bridges, if there was an order from above.
              Quote from: nik-mazur
              All this does not mean that bridges and supply routes should not be destroyed in principle - it is necessary, but on time within the framework of a specific operation, when even a short-term interruption of supply means defeat. And gouging bridges just in case is pointless.

              From all of the above, it is easy to conclude that now is just such a moment.
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              2. 0
                17 August 2023 11: 45
                Quote from Soldy21
                No bridges - and Western aid will not reach the LBS

                Will get there. It will be much more difficult, more expensive, longer, but it will get there. During the Great Patriotic War, the long-suffering Dnieper bridges were first destroyed by ours, then by the Germans. This had little effect on the course of hostilities.
                The Germans are crossing the Dnieper. The second photo shows a temporary bridge.



                Quote from Soldy21
                pontoon crossings are extremely vulnerable

                Not certainly in that way. The pontoon is really not as difficult to destroy as the span of the bridge, but it is also restored much easier and faster. In addition, pontoons can change their location, which complicates their destruction.

                Quote from Soldy21
                it would not be bad to inflict a decisive defeat on the enemy earlier than this period, spending less of their lives and a little more missiles

                A little more missiles - how much? One and a half times more, five, ten, fifty? Have you already calculated or do you think so? And how quickly will this cumulative effect affect - a week, a month, half a year, a year? Do you have any calculations or, again, only assumptions that everything will be quick and easy?

                In general, any amateur, for some reason, is firmly convinced that he understands the problem better than professionals, who are all stupid and do not understand anything. Well, after all, it is obvious to any fool that you just need to blow up all the bridges and the war will end. Well, in addition to bridges, there are all tunnels, railway junctions and interchanges, all military enterprises, all warehouses, airfields, ports, oil refineries, administrative buildings, military registration and enlistment offices, TV towers, communication centers, etc. At what all at once and to ashes. Lightweight. And stupid military, for some reason, can not understand this.
                1. -1
                  18 August 2023 00: 13
                  Quote from: nik-mazur
                  Will get there. It will be much more difficult, more expensive, longer, but it will get there. During the Great Patriotic War, the long-suffering Dnieper bridges were first destroyed by ours, then by the Germans. This had little effect on the course of hostilities.
                  The Germans are crossing the Dnieper. The second photo shows a temporary bridge.

                  That is, you don’t want to seriously complicate (at least) the enemy’s life? It is very strange. This is first. And secondly, you are comparing the incomparable. Neither we nor the Germans then had weapons capable of destroying bridges deep behind enemy lines. And why do I have to explain all this...
                  Quote from: nik-mazur
                  Not certainly in that way. The pontoon is really not as difficult to destroy as the span of the bridge, but it is also restored much easier and faster. In addition, pontoons can change their location, which complicates their destruction.

                  So Geranium is not a piece goods. We have many times more of them than the enemy will be able to build pontoon crossings. Again, the capacity of the pontoons is scanty, and if they are still being built in different places all the time, this will further reduce the amount of passing traffic. Pontoons will not replace bridges, even if we do not touch them (pontoons).
                  Quote from: nik-mazur
                  A little more missiles - how much? One and a half times more, five, ten, fifty? Have you already calculated or do you think so? And how quickly will this cumulative effect affect - a week, a month, half a year, a year? Do you have any calculations or, again, only assumptions that everything will be quick and easy?

                  Obviously, at the moment - more, and in the future - even less, since soon it will not be necessary to fire missiles at targets on the left bank - they simply will not remain. Of course, it is necessary to hammer warehouses, fuel storage facilities, airfields, etc. with rockets, but the APU will not end this good until the APU itself becomes, and this is a long time.
                  Of course, I have no calculations, I am guided by elementary logic. Maybe you have the calculations, since you asked? Or just explain to me why, in your opinion, trying to put out flames is much better and more effective than pouring out the whole fire?
                  Quote from: nik-mazur
                  In general, any amateur, for some reason, is firmly convinced that he understands the problem better than professionals

                  Here I agree. For example, you carry your amateurish ideas to the masses, which do not withstand even the simplest criticism.
                  Quote from: nik-mazur
                  better than professionals who are all stupid and do not understand anything.

                  Professionals, including the military, of course, never make mistakes, especially simple and obvious ones. I don't even know how to comment on this. Yes, at least the Nazi military were also professionals, and the best in the world, but the result is known to everyone. Are there many examples?
                  Quote from: nik-mazur
                  Well, after all, it is obvious to any fool that you just need to blow up all the bridges and the war will end. Well, in addition to bridges, there are all tunnels, railway junctions and interchanges, all military enterprises, all warehouses, airfields, ports, oil refineries, administrative buildings, military registration and enlistment offices, TV towers, communication centers, etc. At what all at once and to ashes. lightness

                  Now you want to veiledly attribute to me words that I did not write. Let me remind you that I am talking only about bridges, since, for example, tunnels cannot be destroyed with conventional weapons, and no missiles are enough for railway nodes.
                  Quote from: nik-mazur
                  And stupid military, for some reason, can not understand this.

                  This is obvious not only to the "stupid military", but to everyone in general. Except, of course, you. The military simply does not have an order for this, or even rather, there is a ban on the destruction of certain targets, the use of certain weapons, and so on. In a word - not a war, but a special operation.
    2. -6
      15 August 2023 23: 05
      and it is necessary to have a long-term vision and not encourage Russian troops to simulate the wild bombing carried out by the Americans in countries such as Korea, Vietnam, Iraq ...
      1. -1
        16 August 2023 13: 37
        Or the British in Dresden, Hamburg and other German cities!
    3. 0
      15 August 2023 23: 07
      Quote: Metallurg_2
      By the way, decommunization in this part can be proclaimed the third goal of the NWO

      Well, Putin already said this in his speech on February 22, 2022.
    4. -1
      16 August 2023 17: 34
      Well, it seems like Shoigu said yesterday that the priority goal of the NWO is to free the prisoners
  2. -20
    15 August 2023 22: 28
    Do not console yourself with illusions... Everyone understands that everything will be restored within two weeks. If there is no movement of ground troops, this will be repeated endlessly.
    Well, or you need to hit something more powerful ... Everyone knows what. But small. So that there is a glass desert within a radius of 500 meters.
    In the current situation, it is a matter of time.
    There doesn't seem to be a choice.
    1. +13
      15 August 2023 22: 39
      Dada, a very great desire of the "partners" that we would hit with something more powerful. Now tell me why? And try to figure out all the consequences. Two and about two weeks for recovery, what optimism. Especially considering that if they hit the energy structure of the plant.
    2. +2
      16 August 2023 19: 21
      How many hidden sympathetic minusers have come running ... I'm deciphering ... This trifle is a one-time blow, the forelocks will quickly nullify ... then they will start making and repairing engines again, with the help of which they will kill our guys ...
      Here it will be useless to vote about the brotherly people and the consequences ... They do not hesitate to hit the Crimean bridge. If they have nuclear weapons, they will hit ... Everything will be decided by the size of the eggs ... Well, I chewed it for the stupid. Minus further Yes
  3. +16
    15 August 2023 22: 34
    The strikes tonight all over Ukraine were amazingly accurate and there is video of the series of landings. It was also amazing that the Ukrainians are posting the results, knowing full well what will happen to them for this!? What happened to the Ukrainian Air Defense and the consciousness of some Ukrainians. We need to continue tonight. It looks like the Ukrainian Armed Forces are introducing their last reserve, the 20-strong Marun group, the most mechanized, into battle. Finally, the missing Challenger with a mosquito net on the turret has appeared, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have no money for "barbecues". Hot days and nights are coming in the Zaporizhzhya sector, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will clearly come up with surprises in other sectors.
    1. -17
      15 August 2023 22: 42
      How long has the bazaar been going on that the ataman has nem money! And what? If they have nema money, where do they get the strength to butt with Russia? Or does Russia not have the strength to butt heads with Kostya Saprykin?
  4. ASM
    +9
    15 August 2023 22: 36
    They can and try to cover up, but there is nothing. What the p-s have set is sharpened for aviation and ballistic targets, and ours are hit either by low-flying missiles and UAVs that change trajectories, or by planning bombs that do not have a thermal trace, or, in special cases, by hypersound. For such purposes, even debugged interception techniques have not yet been written. And the Patriots were still punished by the Hussites in Saudi Arabia, so we are not ahead of the rest here.
  5. +7
    15 August 2023 22: 36
    An impressive video of strikes on such a key facility as Yuzhmash says three important things!
    1) We started hitting the right way, not drawing lines
    2) The USSR finally ended, we are spreading everything built by the whole country
    3) The West is not able to cover important objects for the Khokhol, which means that it will not be able to cover its own, in which case ...
    1. -6
      15 August 2023 23: 17
      All this can and yes, but for how long will these 4 blows paralyze the work of the plant? Are critical facilities hit? For the effect to be, this series must be multiplied by at least 10, but it seems that we cannot pull such a mass at one point at a time.
      1. +1
        16 August 2023 13: 41
        If the energy source of the enterprise is hit (and this is stated in the article in plain text!), Then the recovery time increases and significantly!
    2. +1
      15 August 2023 23: 18
      Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
      An impressive video of strikes on such a key facility as Yuzhmash says three important things!

      1) Randomness, trend, substantiated fact, statistics. Now "peeling the right way" is nothing more than a trend.
      2) I was born in the USSR, grew up in the Russian Federation, so I keep nostalgic feelings.
      3) AWACS are circling over Poland. Satellites fly wherever they want! And the West is not able to cover)))).
      Really incapable! And he doesn't really want to.
      4) "The Third World War is marching
      On a dying planet
      Where, unaware of horror,
      Flowers and children are still growing." (N. A. Zinoviev)
    3. +3
      15 August 2023 23: 44
      Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
      3) The West is not able to cover xoxly important objects, which means that it will not be able to cover its own, in which case ...
      There are barely enough missiles for just one not very large Outskirts. Although they are Central Europe, the real Europe is much larger, and NATO will defend Europe in a completely different way than it will defend Central Europe.
      1. -1
        16 August 2023 13: 45
        So there will be other missiles, with other warheads ... negative Which, however, I don’t really want ... But it seems that this Heiro- and British brotherhood cannot be calmed down in another way, otherwise they will climb again in 40 years! angry
    4. +2
      16 August 2023 17: 36
      The USSR ended more than 30 years ago, when everything built by the whole country fell into "effective private hands", and then the plant was closed, sawn up, bombed, privatized, the tenth thing - it no longer belongs to the people
  6. +4
    15 August 2023 22: 52
    the words of the Ukrainian command about "the majority of downed missiles" are a banal lie.
    Not a lie, but an alternate reality. lol
  7. +4
    15 August 2023 22: 52
    Moreover, in the spring it was noticeable that the Armed Forces of Ukraine PPO had at least some kind of pratsyue only over Kiev and Odessa, geraniums fly to all other cities even without the chirping of anti-aircraft guns. And even the Ukrainian moments have disappeared, they do not post their struggle with flying flowers.
  8. +5
    15 August 2023 22: 57
    The territory there is agromadnaya, colossal workshops - a whole city. You need either nuclear weapons, or a month to beat Caliber.
    Intelligence information would be very helpful - what and where is happening there today.
    1. +4
      16 August 2023 02: 41
      Quote: Rumata
      The territory there is agromadnaya, colossal workshops - a whole city. You need either nuclear weapons, or a month to beat Caliber.
      Intelligence information would be very helpful - what and where is happening there today.

      The article writes that one of the goals is an energy supply object. It seems to me that this is correct: without electricity, you can’t earn much. And generators will not help here. And yes, intelligence information would not hurt. I don’t think that there, as in the Soviet Union, all the shops are in operation, probably half are under some kind of warehouses. So there is no point in ironing everything, you need to know what and where.
  9. +3
    15 August 2023 23: 02
    In Odessa, the night was cheerful with a twinkle and, as always, the air defense of the Ukrainian occupiers was noted in the civilian population.
  10. 0
    15 August 2023 23: 09
    Today's attacks on Yuzhmash testify to

    We can if we want. But why don't we usually want to?
    1. +2
      16 August 2023 12: 03
      In order to completely destroy YUZHMASH, there would need to be 20 such hits instead of 4, it is one of the largest enterprises of the former USSR. The tactics of a non-nuclear global strike, developed by the USA and applied by Russia in practice, show their complete inconsistency. There should be at least 2 orders of magnitude more means of destruction such as cruise missiles. The USA and NATO are already rewriting their attack strategy.
      1. +1
        16 August 2023 12: 40
        To completely destroy YUZHMASH, you need 20 such hits and not 4

        Why destroy empty buildings?
        1. 0
          16 August 2023 16: 45
          Why destroy empty buildings?

          Do you think Grom-2 missiles are born naturally? Do the ancient Tupolev drones transform themselves into shock drones?
  11. +6
    15 August 2023 23: 27
    Quote: Rage66
    Everyone understands that everything will be restored within two weeks.

    Who will restore it? Will they bring it from the front?
    1. +3
      15 August 2023 23: 38
      Quote from Canon
      Quote: Rage66
      Everyone understands that everything will be restored within two weeks.

      Who will restore it? Will they bring it from the front?

      Women. Teenagers. Prisoners. Another thing is that unskilled labor is not enough in itself, you also need building materials, equipment, and operators of this equipment. But with the last two things there may be a problem if the operators are graved.
      1. +5
        16 August 2023 02: 05
        Babs. Teenagers.
        In Nice and Genoa they hack on the beaches, they don't care about that.
  12. osp
    -8
    16 August 2023 00: 27
    These experts clearly do not understand other things.
    That the concept of "strategic" enterprises is very blurred in this country.
    Since they are either not used, or used to a minimum, or they go deep underground and strikes against them are not terrible.
    Therefore, they do not try to protect these objects - there is no need.

    Practically everything that is necessary for waging war Ukraine receives from abroad.
    And air defense systems are used to cover military facilities of the highest importance.
    For with the loss of civilian objects and industry, no one is considered there - not before that.

    PS

    "Thundershadows" and Taurus are clearly not produced at this plant.
    And the aircraft carriers of these things are not based there either.
  13. +2
    16 August 2023 00: 35
    It is not clear otherwise. Why did it even work in August 2023. Wasn't it destroyed a year ago?
    1. +3
      16 August 2023 10: 45
      Quote: My name
      Why did it even work in August 2023

      Because everything must be done on time:
      at the beginning of the year, new equipment, including power supply systems, was supplied to Yuzhmash from abroad

      At the beginning of the year they brought it, while they installed it, connected it, launched it, then it flew in - everything is logical, isn't it?
  14. osp
    -6
    16 August 2023 00: 36
    Everyone remembers the strikes on the Ukrainian energy system.
    So what ?
    Everything is working. There is light, consumers receive it.
    The railway is buzzing, military supplies are going to the front from abroad.
    All because the territory of this republic is huge and the energy system
    has its own characteristics.
    1. 0
      16 August 2023 07: 23
      With the connection, all in vain, all gone?
    2. +3
      16 August 2023 22: 12
      The power system was quickly restored because they beat on every little thing. In fact, serious objects, such as a 750 kV substation, of which they have only 6 pieces, were not touched for some reason at all!?
  15. 0
    16 August 2023 08: 28
    When a cloud glows rising above the horizon and a glow and sparks come from it, this is not explosive.