There were shots of the special forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine taken prisoner after landing on the left bank of the Kherson region

Footage taken by Russian servicemen has been published on the network, where you can see Ukrainian special forces captured after the defeat of the DRG of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is noted that the militants crossed the water barrier on high-speed boats, after which they landed in the Kherson region on the left bank of the Dnieper in the vicinity of the village of Cossack camps.

Earlier, a number of sources stated that up to 7 boats of the Ukrainian army were destroyed on the way to the left bank of the Kherson region. Acting Governor of the region Vladimir Saldo confirmed that the Russian army stopped the attempt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to land on the left bank of the Dnieper near the village of Cossack Camps.

When trying to moor the watercraft of the militants of the Kyiv regime, they were destroyed by the forces of the Dnepr group of troops. Some of the militants tried to swim back to the right bank occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but were destroyed by heavy artillery and small arms fire from Russian military personnel. It is also reported that in the radio intercepts of the conversations of the landing of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, speech was heard in Polish and Georgian.

With the support of artillery, units of the Russian army, consisting of mobilized and contract volunteers, took up a shooting battle. The enemy also supported his landing force with artillery fire from the coast controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

It is also reported that the enemy does not stop trying to carry out a full-scale landing operation to create a bridgehead on the left bank of the Dnieper.

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[Egoza]

in the radio intercepts of the conversations of the landing of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, speech was heard in Polish and Georgian.

Don't take these prisoners!

[Machito]

Quote: Egoza

in the radio intercepts of the conversations of the landing of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, speech was heard in Polish and Georgian.

Don't take these prisoners!

If they are not taken prisoner, they will stand to the death. You just need to create the appropriate conditions for confinement. For example, for disinfection, you can fill the bucket with bleach every hour and not be stingy, otherwise you understand the coronavirus.

[pudelartemon]

Or maybe the mercenaries will think before signing the contract, which is better: a bullet in the head and a couple of thousand bucks in your pocket, or calmly picking strawberries and tangerines while sitting at home.

[NAF-NAF]

take it - take it, but only elementary selection is needed: foreign speech - FSE, denazification on the spot and without anesthesia. The rest - in captivity, for re-education.

[fruc]

NAF-NAF ..... The rest are captured, for re-education.

Do you yourself believe in it? In the special forces, there is a special contingent that has undergone appropriate training in every sense.

[White AK]

They don’t have NK, we don’t have special ones there, the personnel have changed more than once due to losses, who they take stronger. We also form assault companies from anyone. The security quarter itself with me, four engineers went along the profile and arrived at the assault. And who was not there. But nothing was taken out.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Special Forces will not sign up for this! Either natural idiots or drug addicts subscribe to this ... What's the point in landing on the front end on seven boats ??? These operations are planned by the British, who themselves are the same nerds. They lost all their territories after the Second World War and still consider themselves winners, and even Ukrainians are taught the same thing. So let them teach, we will win faster.

[APASUS]

Quote: NAF-NAF

take it - take it, but only elementary selection is needed: foreign speech - FSE, denazification on the spot and without anesthesia. The rest - in captivity, for re-education.

With this, you can also give shovels and send them to dig a tunnel to Madagascar. In 5 years, they will sing the anthem of the Russian Federation in Russian better than the choir of A. V. Alexandrov,
BSL 2 works wonders, I bet

[isv000]

Quote: Bearded

If they are not taken prisoner, they will stand to the death.

In such cases, they should not interfere, but help! Burn on the spot, burn to death!

[Sailor]

So they don’t seem to take it, only cemeteries in Poland are growing.

[azkolt]

Quote: Egoza

in the radio intercepts of the conversations of the landing of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, speech was heard in Polish and Georgian.

Don't take these prisoners!

On the one hand, yes, it would be nice not to take such prisoners, but on the other, I understand that you are a woman, and the men are crucifying here, they know for sure that they will not be captured, which is why such bloodthirsty heroes. Only here, for some reason, they don’t understand this at the forefront, they are not bloodthirsty, like couch daredevils!

[Lynx2000]

Quote: azkolt

On the one hand, yes, it would be nice not to take such prisoners, but on the other, I understand that you are a woman, and the men are crucifying here, they know for sure that they will not be captured, which is why such bloodthirsty heroes. Only here, for some reason, they don’t understand this at the forefront, they are not bloodthirsty, like couch daredevils!

Nikolai, the VO contingent (participants) is diverse, there are a lot of ex-servicemen from privates to officers with experience in participating in the database and being injured, so it’s better to be less categorical when writing about sofas.
Regarding the question - to take not to take prisoner, I am sure that on the spot, in the operating units, they know their opponents better, especially those units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who were noted in the torture and execution of our military officers who were captured.
Evidence of such crimes (the bodies of the dead with traces of torture) certainly cause anger and a desire for revenge.
The units of the Ukrainian SOF, which include mercenaries (Georgians and Poles), have long been noted that they do not differ in humanity, they certainly will not be re-educated. According to the customs of war, sabotage units are subject to destruction, captured saboteurs - to interrogation and destruction. A well-trained commando saboteur costs the state dearly in training and maintenance.

[Knell wardenheart]

There was no desire at all to get into this dumb discussion smacking of cannibalism a mile away, but ...
People, damn it, do you even understand what you are writing?) "Don't take these prisoners!" "Captured saboteurs to be interrogated and destroyed".
Oil painting, vigorous psaltery. 1940 some year there, in their own land Mrs. Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya went to burn barns to inflict damage on the Germans. Those, just like you now, smart little ones with sparkling eyes and righteous anger, as you put it, "interrogated and destroyed."
Well, from YOUR SAME point of view, they did 1 to 1, don’t you really catch up, or is it “different”?
They like the APU, they don’t like it, yes, it’s an ENEMY, but specifically in this situation it’s an enemy that is legally fighting on ITS territory and for it.
And here they offer to fry such people to wet with all the guns and not regret the word at all.

The fact that these people ended up in special forces does not mean that they automatically became SS and ideological Aryans. You see, there are men, he likes to cook himself, swing his bitsuhi, he likes all this aesthetics of war, he is a patriot, etc. , and so on . The only difference between this man and some Russian is that he was born in Ukraine, lived his life there, owns property there. It was there that they rubbed him about debt and so on, and not here. And it will absolutely also be used by the command to execute the database, this is his job, kakbe.

And then some characters perceive what is happening and generally stupidly EVERYONE from the other side as if they are some kind of xs, parademons or something, which in clubs of sulfuric smoke crawled out somewhere from the portals in the Moscow region and let people eat and sow filth. Wake up - these are the same people.
What would you do in their place, huh? When does the Motherland send you to defend yourself?
There is nothing good and right in the fact that people piss people helpless when trying to swim to save their fifth points. Just extrapolate, how would YOU react to something like this, if you did so ukry? Suppose we had carried out a landing somewhere, and it would have broken off, and ours would have been shot like ducks in the river, while trying to escape? I'll tell you how you would react - here they would write about how immoral it is, what kind of beasts and bastards they are, and that they should all be in dust for this.
This is all typical Hottentot morality, which is growing like a fur coat in a refrigerator in our society and especially in kvass circles. It's sad that her projectors don't even realize this.

As for the laws of war, etc. - victory is always the main thing, but you should not breed extra bloody minced meat on the battlefield and extra bloody minced meat in your heads either. All this will end - sooner or later everything always ends, but the sediment will remain. Including in the souls of those who still have them in place.

[Lynx2000]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

There was no desire at all to get into this dumb discussion smacking of cannibalism a mile away, but ...
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All this will end - sooner or later everything always ends, but the sediment will remain. Including in the souls of those who still have them in place.

There are customs of warfare, based on previous wars, database maintenance, attitude towards non-combatants, saboteurs and spies of the enemy side (which it was customary to destroy).
The norms of international law that try to regulate relations between the warring parties in an attempt to alleviate the fate of military personnel / prisoners of war / civilians are developed and adopted by the world community on a regular basis, even before the First World War, several conventions before the Second World War.
Tell me, but these so-called. were humanitarian norms respected by the warring parties in World War II (no need to write about Stalin's refusal to join the m / n convention on the treatment of prisoners of war and the Red Cross)?
About legally (as you put it), the war of the Ukrainian DRG on their own land - you are not on topic, yes, from their tz. - protection of sovereignty, from our point of view - to defeat the enemy, to fulfill the goals of the NWO. The goal of combat operations is to defeat the enemy. Are you stuck in the "Gallant Age"? Yes, then they took the word of honor from the captured officers not to fight against for a certain time and released them with weapons.
Regarding the Ukrainian special forces, I judge based on my experience of service since '99 in the North Caucasus.
Firstly, as you noted, such a military officer is distinguished by special training (combat and physical), has the best moral and volitional qualities (endure hardships, pain, be prepared for death).
Secondly, when performing special tasks, he must be ready to die.
Thirdly, if we touch on the "customs of war", the WG, RDG, depending on the performance of the task, to obtain information, they capture the "language" (ambush / raid), it happens after that, the prisoner is liquidated.
There were facts of such raids by Ukrainian RDGs on our (old) territories, the death on our part was confirmed.
Of course, when the mobilized Armed Forces, after the first arrivals, raise their hands uphill, surrender as a unit, they are accepted, handed over to the rear. But when the hardened special forces shoot back to the last, then, like, surrendered to save their lives, and our guys recognize him as one of the "torturers" or as a representative of a unit noted in torture and murder, do you think such a "prize" will reach the rear?
Once again, war / hostilities are not jousting tournaments for a long time, yes, bad emotions appear, but for some reason in our army, in addition to handing our last ration to a civilian, first aid is also provided to a wounded enemy.
Take a look at these spetsnazers lying there, who bragged about 2-3 years ago that soon the Donbass and Crimea would be cleared of Russians, they say Kuban, Belgorod and Rostov like Ukraine ...

Py.Sy. There is no desire to get into the topic - do not meddle. Everyone in this case has its own truth and arguments.

[Knell wardenheart]

About legally (as you put it), the war of the Ukrainian DRG on their own land - you are not on topic, yes, from their tz. - protection of sovereignty, from our point of view - to defeat the enemy, to fulfill the goals of the NWO

There is an international point of view on this, including the point of view of the organization of which we are members and founders (UN), which very clearly defines the boundaries in this case. We, as befits adherents of Hottentot morality, which is clearly seen in your example, are trying in this situation to exist in a split reality, a kind of quantum superposition of the brain. It's usually both sad and funny at the same time.

Tell me, but these so-called. were humanitarian norms respected by the warring parties in World War II (no need to write about Stalin's refusal to join the m / n convention on the treatment of prisoners of war and the Red Cross)?

It seemed to me that history is moving forward and not backward, but apparently you also have a specific point of view on this. As Mr. Bokassa would say, "I ate, I eat and I will eat."

The goal of combat is to defeat the enemy

I absolutely agree - however, it was pointed out to you (including) that in justifying such methods of warfare, you must also justify the methods of war of the Wehrmacht of the 1940s model (which is clearly not observed). This is Hottentot morality in its purest form - when there is one truth for oneself, and another for others. If we act in accordance with certain rules of conduct with the enemy on his territory, then it is not good then to brand angrily those who also acted on ours. Or vice versa - if we angrily stigmatize this in our history, why don't we notice our excesses?

There were facts of such raids by Ukrainian RDGs on our (old) territories, the death on our part was confirmed

Let's extrapolate point situations to the situation as a whole, it's so grown-up!) Indeed, if "somewhere on the air I heard Polish speech" and "some one of the prisoners was with a swastika" - then from this, of course , the conclusion suggests itself that these are all Nazi Poles, all as one. Well, why feel sorry for them. Well, this is the level of logic, actually ..
Why knead people how much in vain? With mercenaries - a bazaar 0. But all this "fragmenting", including those retreating - what is its meaning? So that we then get empty lands full of widows and orphans? This is the problem of tomorrow, but when you build something solid, you need to think in the appropriate categories. You can't build a tower out of g and sticks. And methods for achieving goals must be chosen of the appropriate quality and level.

But when the seasoned special forces shoot back to the last

Are they trying to swim back to their shore, shooting back to the last? It's real, experts. Taking off my hat.

Once again, war / fighting is not jousting for a long time

In the old glorious days, the victors feasted on the bodies of the vanquished or ate their hearts there, their livers, raped their wives and enslaved their children. Then they would also answer you that war is a difficult matter - and either you or you. What would you say to them? Yes, too, what I'm telling you now - there is a certain line beyond which violence has no practical use and is a waste of flesh. This line needs to be understood, we live in the 21st century, and not that's all.

Take a look at these spetsnazers lying there, who bragged about 2-3 years ago that soon the Donbass and Crimea would be cleared of Russians, they say Kuban, Belgorod and Rostov like Ukraine ...

You again lump together the statements and views of individuals and assign it to the abstract "everyone". I think we can also find a lot of people in the Armed Forces who hold very specific views - but is it correct to project these views on the Armed Forces as a whole?
There are people for whom war is life, there are those for whom it is just a job. It is absurd to think that "all of them" as Boba Fet clones are different people with different views and motivations. And while they are not in Belgorod - why treat them as if they were undead from hell in the very heart of the Russian land? What is the meaning of this? When everything is over - these people (who will survive) will also have to live where they used to live. Someone will even go to serve in the RF Armed Forces. How will they look at everything after such an attitude? You see, we are not going to clean up, to say the least, we are going to liberate - and from the fact that more Russian-speaking healthy men die, no one will feel better tomorrow.

Py.Sy. There is no desire to get into the topic - do not meddle

There is no desire to debate with Pithecanthropes still living somewhere between the Neolithic and the Middle Ages. However, it is extremely curious to find the bottom of such people, because even they must have a certain line beyond which they will say "fu, this is immoral"? .
All the best and be a little more humane - everyone has families, children, wives and relatives. Don't forget about it.

[Lynx2000]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

There is an international point of view on this, including the point of view of the organization of which we are members and founders (UN), which very clearly defines the boundaries in this case. We, as befits adherents of Hottentot morality, which is clearly seen in your example, are trying in this situation to exist in a split reality, a kind of quantum superposition of the brain. It's usually both sad and funny at the same time.
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There is no desire to debate with Pithecanthropes still living somewhere between the Neolithic and the Middle Ages. However, it is extremely curious to find the bottom of such people, because even they must have a certain line beyond which they will say "fu, this is immoral"? .
All the best and be a little more humane - everyone has families, children, wives and relatives. Don't forget about it.

Do you seriously think that m / n legal acts are really observed in the world, the same Brzezinski explained why the United States invades countries, overthrows regimes (yes, they did this after WWII), literally: the United States does this because they can allow it. There is only one right in the world - the right of the strong, starting with the founding fathers of jurisprudence, the same casus belli to create a pretext for war.

It’s amusing for me to watch when people who are idealists are surprised to learn that in addition to flowers in a meadow, a beautiful starry sky, delights in the structure of the brain, there is a harsh reality, dirt, war, blood, laws that are established by strong countries and themselves do not comply.

You lumped it all together. Let me explain more simply, in a war - as in a war, if the enemy is not tainted with war crimes (murders of civilians, prisoners of war, torture), surrenders and asks for mercy, surrender and decent maintenance are guaranteed. If the enemy has committed military crimes (messengers and various social networks reveal so much information about the past and present), he must be destroyed. You see, they kill in a war, and RDGs may not return from a mission at all, in many wars, according to the customs of war, saboteurs and spies were destroyed, and they did so in your beloved West.
Your comparison, a la acting like the Wehrmacht and the SS about what and why? Neither the Red Army acted like that, nor our units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation act like the Armed Forces of Ukraine and their national units, at least look at their symbols and ideology ?!

Apparently you are an idealist-humanist who himself does not know what he wants, but he is definitely sure that the Russian Armed Forces of the Russian Federation act like the Wehrmacht. There was such a "human rights activist" Kovalev, she is still ...

[Knell wardenheart]

Do you seriously think that m / n legal acts are really observed in the world, the same Brzezinski explained why the United States invades countries, overthrows regimes (yes, they did this after WWII), literally: the United States does this because they can allow it. There is only one right in the world - the right of the strong, starting with the founding fathers of jurisprudence, the same casus belli to create a pretext for war.

Adolf Aloizovich simply applauds your vision of things) He also said "there is no right but the right of the strong!" "to go and take everything we can - our mission!" and others.
Well, all this demagoguery about rotten international institutions was attached. 1 to 1. You see, fascism is very good. a delicate thing, it is not necessary to wear mustaches or bangs or fill yourself with a swastika to be the most ordinary fascist in your soul. Not necessarily even in the German vision of this issue, it is possible in Italian. The visions of things voiced by you - and there is such a mixture of the views of fascism and militarism on things. Things like that o.o.

It’s amusing for me to watch when people who are idealists are surprised to learn that in addition to flowers in a meadow, a beautiful starry sky, delights in the structure of the brain, there is a harsh reality, dirt, war, blood, laws that are established by strong countries and themselves do not comply.

But I’m still wondering how non-idealists invented something more advanced than a drop stick and a stone ax, with which it was quite suitable to crush the skulls of others, for their own fun. Why something new when there is something old, as ancient as a mammoth and the testaments of ancestors for all occasions. Blood for blood, etc., the right of the strong and so on. You know, when, specifically, they will be with you according to these rules that you savor so much, after all, your tail will burn, sir, admit it :-) However, all the same, with such pathos, now you are proving to me that this is how the world works and there is no need and try to do something differently.
This is sooo cute!

Let me explain more simply, in a war - as in a war, if the enemy is not tainted with war crimes (murders of civilians, prisoners of war, torture), surrenders and asks for mercy, surrender and decent content are guaranteed

Oh, what a crafty uncle you are :-) What kind of enemy? Abstract or CONCRETE, personified? Here was, for example, some kind of muzhyG, who at the Wagners in the rear ordered to sculpt a minefield and then ordered them to fire at all - if we operate with your concepts of an "abstract enemy", then more than 1 such muzhik (and he has subordinates were) and you can safely blame the sun for doing this on a regular basis. Well, or, for example, the same Wagner, a couple of cases when members of this office mocked someone (before the rebellion), and that’s it, according to your vision of things, is it safe to write them down as “enemies” of everyone? You have och. strange logic.
Can you deign to voice from what scale it is correct to extrapolate individual situations to these very "all"? Because thinking in such categories on certain high-profile cases is childhood as it is, here you need to either move on to SPECIFYING the enemy (such and such a unit committed massively such and such crimes), or to PERSONALIZATION (such and such an uncle committed such and such).
Abstract concepts are bullshit. So you can personally attribute responsibility for the crimes of Stalinism or the Yeltsin era. Well, what - abstraction zhezh.

Your comparison, a la acting like the Wehrmacht and the SS about what and why? Neither the Red Army acted like that, nor our units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation act like the Armed Forces of Ukraine and their national units, can you at least look at their symbols and ideology?

The same crazy mess of people, horses and boots as we have in the media. Where until recently they were confused in the terms "militants", the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the National Battalions, the Nazis and so on. Then they came up with the term "VFU" for such cases, because go there and figure it out with whom they are hammering. In the Second World War, we also didn’t really like to figure it out, mistaking German tankers for the SS (because of the uniform). In general, the lack of a habit to understand and crumble everyone right and left and defame indiscriminately is wildly primitive.

Apparently you are an idealist-humanist who himself does not know what he wants

I made it very clear what I want - it is your inattention and lack of habit and desire to delve into things seriously that prevents you from catching a simple thought - extra bloody minced meat can and will allow you to win in the short term and at the tactical level, but in the medium-long term and at the strategic level, constipation case.
This must be remembered, and violence and cruelty must have a measure. This should be understood by both the soldiers at the front and the sofa cavalry. Blood always begets blood.

[Lynx2000]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

Adolf Aloizovich simply applauds your vision of things) He also said "there is no right but the right of the strong!" "to go and take everything we can - our mission!" and others.
Well, all this demagoguery about rotten international institutions was attached. 1 to 1. You see, fascism is very good. a delicate thing, it is not necessary to wear mustaches or bangs or fill yourself with a swastika to be the most ordinary fascist in your soul.
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The same crazy mess of people, horses and boots as we have in the media. Where until recently they were confused in the terms "militants", the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the National Battalions, the Nazis and so on. Then they came up with the term "VFU" for such cases, because go there and figure it out with whom they are hammering. In the Second World War, we also didn’t really like to figure it out, mistaking German tankers for the SS (because of the uniform). In general, the lack of a habit to understand and crumble everyone right and left and defame indiscriminately is wildly primitive.

Apparently you are an idealist-humanist who himself does not know what

I made it very clear what I want - it is your inattention and lack of habit and desire to delve into things seriously that prevents you from catching a simple thought - extra bloody minced meat can and will allow you to win in the short term and at the tactical level, but in the medium-long term and at the strategic level, constipation case.
This must be remembered, and violence and cruelty must have a measure. This should be understood by both the soldiers at the front and the sofa cavalry. Blood always begets blood.

So you went around the second circle, it is your set of speech stamps, slogans and phrases about peace, love, the inadmissibility of cruelty, in this and your previous comment does not lead to any conclusion. Without you, it is clear that war and the killing of a person are initially bad. Apparently you inattentively read my comments that in war the enemy is rewarded according to his merits (whether he committed a military crime or not). In addition, if you have already touched on the topic of legality, then the death penalty for military crimes is considered generally accepted. In addition, there are no special rules in combat (rifle, close to hand-to-hand combat), apparently from your bell tower it is necessary to somehow "humanely" defeat the enemy?
If you have already touched on the phraseologism that has set the teeth on edge - "couch troops", I want to ask you, have you tried the "trench life" yourself, seen the results of cruelty from the war? It's easy to talk about philanthropy and humanism when you don't touch yourself and your loved ones... Or did you?

[KLM77]

A naive humanist, do you think it turns out that we are cannibals and call for destruction for the defense of the homeland? But this is not so, it is necessary to destroy non-humans for what methods they do it. Or are the men holding the last grenade so as not to be captured? No, they go on self-detonation knowing what awaits them in this captivity, and this is not at all a cell, a scheduled lunch and waiting for an exchange.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

yes, it is an ENEMY, but specifically in this situation it is an enemy who is legally fighting on ITS territory and for it.
And here they offer to fry such people to wet with all the guns and not regret the word at all.

I don’t know how it is with you in the world of pink unicorns ... but here they suggest not to feel sorry for these animals, not because they are fighting on their legal territory, but because instead of a conventional war they kill and torture peaceful civilians, fire at peaceful neighborhoods, profess fascism and ruthless violence against those who do not agree with them.
These are nonhumans. Inhumans and Satanists, there is nothing human in them for a long time.
Perhaps you slept somewhere for the previous 9 years - so you don’t understand why they are proposed to be destroyed without any regret ...
But this is not scary, it is treated very easily. I can advise you to go to Donetsk and Gorlovka, visit the Alley of Angels, the monument to Sorrow and Sorrow in the Park of Heroes, the Memorial to the dead residents ... stand nearby and just listen to the locals - the history of the appearance of these monuments.
I assure you - this slobbering pseudo-humanism will quickly peel off you, like dirt under a shower.

[Knell wardenheart]

they kill and torture peaceful civilians, shell peaceful neighborhoods, practice fascism and ruthless violence against those who do not agree with them.

In no way justifying anyone, I will simply point out the historical facts.
During the Second World War, I think you know how we dealt with accomplices and sympathizers with the Germans. Calling such a line "humane" does not turn out the language - but this implies the conclusion that in the territory of the former USSR it is very traditional to influence collaborators quite harshly. And there is no difference at all from who they collaborate with - with Napoleon or with cannibalistic fascists. It was always preferred to kill collaborators - I’ll note especially for you that it was not a Ukrainian who invented it, they have TRADITIONALLY been operating in these territories for centuries. The degree of collaborationism does not play a role here at all - but the punishment is the most severe and, from the point of view of the laws of peacetime, often the most severe or completely lawless.
You and those like you should understand that in many cases a Ukrainian acts in a stubborn way, not because he is a repulsed Nazi, but because he acts quite traditionally for the way our domestic wars and the fight against collaborators have always been in principle.
We have always fired infra so that it does not get to the enemy and, as I have already noted, they never spared their own who sympathize with him. In this case, it is, of course, the pro-Russian population.
From a human point of view, of course, I condemn this, but my task is to point out the traditional nature of such a cannibalistic approach. If you study foreign experience, then + - also acted there - so, in principle, pressing your civilians suspected of sympathizing with the enemy is not something anomalous. Only a poorly educated person can assert such a thing, so you can be forgiven for it.

profess fascism and ruthless violence against those who disagree with them.

Regarding fascism, I condemn, but I note that not everyone equally shares these ideas in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which, in fact, is indicated by a fairly clear division into the so-called "volunteer nationalist battalions" and the Armed Forces of Ukraine. By analogy with the GG, there was also a fairly clear division into the Wehrmacht and the SS, with, let's say, a different level of involvement. Again, I note that only a person who is not very smart or deep, with a superficial perception of things, can not catch this difference.
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ruthless violence against those who disagree with them.

Here I note that this is also quite a traditional case for the states of the former USSR, which simply revel in violence and the suppression of dissent of any kind. You don't need to look far for examples - you just need to remember what rights and freedoms we had 15 years ago and compare with now. If you were still living then, of course. Actually, the difference is in the LEVEL of suppression, and not in the fact that "no, we are not like that at all." We also crush, in fact, any dissent, here the degree may differ. Our opposition little fellow is dying in some different ways, they imprison her for words and thrown glasses, and all from this series. You won't argue that we, of course, are white and fluffy? :)

These are nonhumans. Inhumans and Satanists, there is nothing human in them for a long time.

Some % of them definitely. Of those fighting on the part of the VFU. But you won’t argue that yesterday’s fellow who was caught in the store by the military commissars after putting on the uniform automatically turns into a bloodthirsty cannibal? This is absurd, after all) Now I recommend you to think about what "by eye"% of real repulsed cannibals burned there during these one and a half years, and who took their place. It doesn't necessarily have to be the same.
Don't be so categorical. Most people have never liked war, but they have always been submissive and disciplined to minorities in hierarchical structures that make them do terrible things and offer no alternatives.

Perhaps you slept somewhere for the previous 9 years - so you don’t understand why they are proposed to be destroyed without any regret ...

Who specifically to destroy? Everyone? All men? I don't understand who the likes of you are talking about when your eyes are filled with blood and foam starts to drip from your mouth. Please be specific and maybe I will agree with you.

But this is not scary, it is treated very easily. I can advise you to go to Donetsk and Gorlovka, visit the Alley of Angels, the monument to Sorrow and Sorrow in the Park of Heroes, the Memorial to the dead residents ... stand nearby and just listen to the locals - the history of the appearance of these monuments.

I have more than 10 close friends from LDNR. I'm pretty well aware of how things have been there since 2014, I assure you.

The retribution you are talking about is an extremely abstract retribution. So the bull is angry at the red rag, although the bullfighter stabs him with a sword. Those who fired on and killed civilians must certainly be punished. But to write down as cannibals everyone who does their duty - and treat them as if he is a cannibal - this is already excesses.
You need to understand this, because the other side will also see this and argue from a position similar to yours. That if they are not spared, then they do not have to hold back.
This is how the brutality from the war happens, so why throw more coals into the fire? There are so many of them.

[Ksyusha Oleneva]

Oh, and flowery speech from people like you! It seems that you are writing the truth, but you lied a little and a completely different meaning is obtained. If comrade (and not madam) Kosmodemyanskaya had been caught, interrogated and shot, this would not have been noticed. In war as in war. But she was tortured and tortured!!! A young 18 year old girl! That's why the case became so famous. And here you are rubbing us about how cruelly they treat mercenaries.

[perm18]

And here, legally, whose territory. And . For us, they are enemies, that's all. and fry it to the fullest. A simple US example. how they soaked the Japs and that the Japanese even began to thank them. how the Vietnamese were killed and that they calmly cooperate with them. because they respect the power and understand what will happen. and we climb with our kindness and what we get. Twice they saved the little brothers in Bulgaria and that they betrayed us and are betraying us to the fullest. So here too. They would immediately begin to act in Ukraine, brutally bombing anything, and the war would quickly end. When a person has gangrene, they must immediately be cut off and much higher than that place where the process is going on and not in pieces.

[APASUS]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

The fact that these people got into special forces does not mean that they automatically became SS and ideological Aryans

Listen to you, so they get into special forces from a stall, in a rural store

[goscha]

Wake up - these are the same people.
What would you do in their place, huh? When does the Motherland send you to defend yourself?
There is nothing good and right in the fact that people piss people helpless when trying to swim to save their fifth points.

There are no people there, since 2014, there are no animals there, fierce animals, with two arms, two legs, and they swam to our shore not to distribute cookies, but to kill. And the attitude towards them should be the same. Like in the movie "They fought for the Motherland" - "Shoot before he has time to raise his hands, I don't need him alive here..." But without brutality. They interrogated me, took me to a beam, and slapped me.

[Revolver]

Quote: Egoza

Don't take these prisoners!

How else to take and judge in accordance with international conventions of the past, if not the century before last. Of course, I have never been a lawyer, but I vaguely remember that those who do not put on their military uniform, without legal grounds for doing so, are illegal combatants, and as such are subject to hanging. And if they were hired to serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then they, of course, have the right to wear uniforms, but what is it supposed to do with mercenaries?
In general, if a couple of them are condemned and publicly hanged, the rest will think.

[private person]

How else to take and judge in accordance with the international conventions of the past

Yeah, the cages in Donetsk for the "dung" captured in Mariupol were never useful, and how many words there were about a fair trial.

[Revolver]

Quote: private person

Yeah, the cages in Donetsk for the "dung" captured in Mariupol were never useful, and how many words there were about a fair trial.

The decision was made at the level, as it were, not the most. This is where you can contact us with questions and suggestions.

[Metallurg_2]

On the contrary: to take and shoot on camera live. Videos should be sent to countries of origin by diplomatic mail. Available with cut off ears.

[Revolver]

Quote: Metallurg_2

take and shoot

Shooting prisoners without trial is a war crime. Hanging them by the verdict of the tribunal is the administration of justice.

[Mazunga]

you complicate everything))) you can also dragon the living so much that you yourself hang yourself on shoelaces))

[Revolver]

Quote from Mazunga

you can also dragon the living so much that you yourself hang yourself on shoelaces

Waterboarding - in the sense that it leaves no traces of application at all, just an ideal technique, unlike, say, thermorectal cryptanalysis, which leaves burns. True, for the application you need to be able to do a little more than just plug the plug into the network.

[Most kind]

Everywhere there are nuances, like, a combatant and a non-combatant, if not a Ukrainian, then he interrogated and shot, but rather sawed into organs, it’s more expedient, and more practical, he is a mercenary, the conventions do not apply to him, since it is necessary to be not a mercenary.

[Metallurg_2]

Shooting prisoners without trial is a war crime

Only in the event that someone can endure and - most importantly - execute the court's verdict on this matter.

[dump22]

On the contrary: take and shoot on camera live ... complete with cut off ears

Do you propose to adopt practices from ISIS?
It was they who practiced the video of the public execution of captured enemies, chopping off heads and hands, etc.
Then we will have "popularity" all over the world, like ISIS.
Do you really want this?

Are you by any chance a provocateur?

[Metallurg_2]

Are you by any chance a provocateur?

No.

Do you propose to adopt practices from ISIS?

No, it's just that those wild geese who have not yet had time to go "shoot quilted jackets" will weigh all the pros and cons a hundred times and think whether they need it.
You can not kill at all, but simply maim and then send a valuable parcel to the country of origin. To suffer and curse fate until the end of days.
You can start by cutting off your index fingers. Absolutely not fatal, but there will no longer be an opportunity to pull the trigger.

Then we will have "popularity" all over the world, like ISIS

So it seems that our popularity through the efforts of the most "unbiased" and "objective" Western media is already at about this level. There is really nothing to loose.

[dump22]

No, it's just that those wild geese who have not yet had time to go "shoot quilted jackets" will weigh all the pros and cons a hundred times and think whether they need it.

We will earn a reputation as an "absolutely inhuman regime" and ideological fighters will flood into Ukraine. It will be like the International Brigades in Spain in 1936, people voluntarily came from all over the world.

But the "wild geese" will definitely not be afraid. They are not afraid to "take a job" in Africa, where they are not taken prisoner, and if they get caught, they were sometimes skinned alive!

And the fighters of PMC Wagner were not afraid to fight in Syria against ISIS, although the Wagnerites understood perfectly well what ISIS would do to them if they were captured by them.

[Metallurg_2]

I have never heard of someone being skinned alive in Africa. In any case, it is not advertised. Now, if this is advertised, then the toggle switches in the brains of many geese will be in the right position.

[Revolver]

Quote: Metallurg_2

You can start by cutting off your index fingers. Absolutely not fatal, but there will no longer be an opportunity to pull the trigger.

You can also press the trigger with the middle one, I even saw a recommendation to hold the revolver with the index finger pressed along the frame, and on the trigger the middle one. But the ancient Greeks chopped off the opponents thumb on their right hand, without it you can’t hold a sword or a spear. This especially killed the Spartans, for whom the whole meaning of life was in war or military exercises, and here it seems like a healthy man, but not fit for anything.

[parma]

Quote: Egoza

in the radio intercepts of the conversations of the landing of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, speech was heard in Polish and Georgian.

Don't take these prisoners!

The whole sadness is that, if you believe our TG from the field, then this video was decided by the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves ... the Ukrainians captured the opornik, called for help on the radio, videos with supposedly prisoners from the DRG were thrown off the phones of the fighters, a group of Major Tomov, consisting of 25 people, came to the scene and there is no more contact with them, it’s already been 2 days (in the Ukrainian segment, photos of captured fighters and equipment allegedly of this group) ...

[Machito]

Send them to dig coals in sunny Magadan.

[knn54]

-Bearded man: Send them to dig coals in sunny Magadan.
Do you care about the environment?

[igorbrsv]

Then from here until lunch let them dig

[aakvit]

Then from here until lunch let them dig

What, did you remember your dear foreman? But it was, oh...

[Amateur]

Here again Roma Abramovich loses. Again, everyone should buy iPhones, again pay for travel and vacations in Turkey.

[Rt Rt]

Well, what the hell did they take? Do you need it? And yes, it lit up. Balance won reported that no one survived

[Nikolay310]

Well, since Saldo himself reported ... he and in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbdachas near Aleshki no one ...

[alexoff]

Maybe it wasn’t an attack, but they swam into captivity?

[former soldier]

Judging by the description, according to the dill during the landing, they fired from all trunks.

[Leshak]

The good news is that the cocaine commandos were captured by our mobilized and volunteer contract soldiers. Men fight normally. Well done.

[Plover]

Alas, but everything is exactly the opposite. Watch and read the latest news.

[igorbrsv]

. It is also reported that the enemy does not stop trying to carry out a full-scale landing operation to create a bridgehead on the left bank of the Dnieper.

They don't have enough strength for that. Now we can say for sure. It only distracts from the main goal. And in Zaporozhye now there will be a decline in activity. PMC "Ukraine" died

[Gpn27]

Unfortunately, on the telegram channels "Two Majors", "Thirteenth", "Romanov Light" information appeared that the captive on the video was the one who was filming. Major Tomko and 16 fighters of his battalion disappeared in the area of ​​the Cossack camps and do not get in touch.

[dnestr74]

It’s better not to mention these telegram channels.

[Nikolay310]

Well, yes, it’s better to live in the world of Konashenkov, Sladkov and Poddubny ...

How is it in Izyum, are the "cows" still transferring reinforcements ???

Well, or the Balance, which has no ukrov on its shore, but constant air strikes on someone are inflicted ...

[Uno]

The channels reported that not only did they not get in touch, but they also wrote that this was an old video

[igorbrsv]

Let's hope we're alive. They are fighters, not meat

[aakvit]

So yours rascals and not such can write! Otherwise, why give them money?

[Incvizitor]

It's a pity, a photo of corpses is much better, there shouldn't be such alive.

[K-50]

I'm wondering what guides trying to organize a bridgehead?
If there is no instant increase in strength, then the landed ones turn (into a pumpkin?), No, into meat.
As soon as Russia concentrates additional artillery pieces on this place, and even a couple of Gradov or Solntsepekov vehicles, that's it, the fried meat is cooked.
So what's the point of going under?
The only thing, the commanders, that the militants are sent there, they themselves will not go for any bucks.
And they don't care about the rest.

[guest]

Quote: K-50

So what's the point of going under?

Divert our forces from other directions.

[Nikolay310]

I want to remind you that difficult decisions from Kherson began with the capture by the Ukrainians of a tiny foothold in the Davydov Brod area ... do not remind me, now the right-bank part of the Kherson region of Russia is under whom?

And secondly, in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAleshkin's dachas, the Ukrainians have had a bridgehead for a long time ... and no two or three concentrated hailstones, like regular strikes by FABs, solve the problem ...

Maybe at least after 1,5 years of NWO it's time to stop throwing hats and fables at enemies? Salds, in which case they will have time to escape, but ordinary people who trusted these salds will be shot and thrown into a ditch .. as it was in Kupyansk

[Al manah]

It's good that the Bandera people do not capture our military.

[Nikolay310]

Yes, the urapatriots have no losses ... because since Shoigu did not report, no one died in a year ... only for some reason there are regular exchanges of dozens, or even a hundred prisoners. .and so the beautiful marquises are doing well ... Konashenkov will not let you lie

[GUKTU76]

It seems to me that you are the most urapatriotic figure. It's true that the logic sucks. But - this is a common occurrence for a fighter of an invisible front with invisible enemies. If you don’t talk about your losses, then they don’t exist. Although it is openly spoken about the ratio of losses and it is in our favor. Does it upset you? Or you know how to conduct military operations without having losses. Tell your independent like-minded people.

[Nikolay310]

Dear, how did it happen that a low-moral someone there has a rating of 48 on the site, and a highly moral one has only 000? Is it because sometimes you need to think with your head, and not sing Utyosov's song, how everything is fine and wonderful ... Major Tomov's group disappeared, 2000 people were killed, some were captured. Instead of admitting the obvious (even to such a guard as RusPanorama), you continue to look for enemies ...

And about enough ... so maybe it really is ENOUGH to lie? Oh, no one was hurt in Novorossiysk ahaha stupid ... and right there these stupid people post footage with a downed Olenegorsk miner ... it was the same with Moscow under joyful phaha and stupid ukrov ...

After 1,5 years of NWO, one can already understand that the war is going on with a strong and insidious enemy. And such stupid propaganda blunders lead to what recently happened in Transbaikalia ... when young people do not believe the fairy tales of Ko-Ko-Ko and find other idols for themselves ... I understand that not in Tomov’s group, nor in your Transbaikalia relatives were not killed, beaten and not taken prisoner ... but if you continue to cackle further, then the matter will affect you personally ... but the big question is whether by that time someone will protect you or at least help brush aside the Ukrainian DRG ... as if later they didn’t have to kneel before them and beg for forgiveness and swear that they were always against the war ...

Indeed, there is a war going on and the capture of prisoners, as well as the death of our soldiers, is a natural process ... the only thing is that our task is to minimize our losses and help the front as much as possible ... by pretending that everything is fine, you only help Ukraine and NATO

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote: Nikolay310

Dear, how did it happen that a low-moral someone there has a rating of 48 on the site, and a highly moral one has only 000?

if the rating was formed over the last month, then you would have it very negative)))))
measuring ratings is such a thing))))))

[Tzar]

Ambiguous video: the prisoners' faces are covered (unlike other videos from the same Zaporizhia direction), the documents of the prisoners are closed, the person filming the video does not hide his face, does not present his call sign, but his real name, calls the number of the unit, the voice on the recording has not been changed, not a single face of our other fighters is visible in the frame, only someone's leg on a prisoner ...

[cmax]

Yes, there is already information, no one fired anywhere. The DRG sailed, made an ambush, and now 18 of ours, including 2 officers, were captured or killed. Footage with captured Ukrainians staging ukrov. This is the second bridgehead on the left bank, it seems. One at the Antonovsky bridge, the second here. From the cart, a bunch of pictures already.

[Nikolay310]

Already, even such experts as RusPanorama, who have this war, at 45 there’s something, but there’s nothing else, agreed that there was a problem with Tomov’s group ... and VO’s urapatriots still continue to put minuses ... do you really think that By minus the truth, will Russia be able to win? Your energy, but for peaceful purposes: for example, dig trenches. Preferably together with Steshin, Kots, Poddubny and other mosquito lovers.

[Radikal]

Quote: Lynx2000

Quote: azkolt

On the one hand, yes, it would be nice not to take such prisoners, but on the other, I understand that you are a woman, and the men are crucifying here, they know for sure that they will not be captured, which is why such bloodthirsty heroes. Only here, for some reason, they don’t understand this at the forefront, they are not bloodthirsty, like couch daredevils!

Nikolai, the VO contingent (participants) is diverse, there are a lot of ex-servicemen from privates to officers with experience in participating in the database and being injured, so it’s better to be less categorical when writing about sofas.
Regarding the question - to take not to take prisoner, I am sure that on the spot, in the operating units, they know their opponents better, especially those units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who were noted in the torture and execution of our military officers who were captured.
Evidence of such crimes (the bodies of the dead with traces of torture) certainly cause anger and a desire for revenge.
The units of the Ukrainian SOF, which include mercenaries (Georgians and Poles), have long been noted that they do not differ in humanity, they certainly will not be re-educated. According to the customs of war, sabotage units are subject to destruction, captured saboteurs - to interrogation and destruction. A well-trained commando saboteur costs the state dearly in training and maintenance.

Respect, dear, true thoughts.

[Eug]

As far as I know, RDGs were not considered prisoners of war if they were not wearing the uniform of the opposing side. If she was, even without the appropriate insignia for military rank, they were considered prisoners of war.

[220-volt]

Strange situation. On August 9, a certain Egor Guzenko claims that Major Tomov, along with a reconnaissance group of 16 people, disappeared somewhere. I was even going to write to the Commander-in-Chief about this.
And here this major of captured special forces demonstrates.
What an ambiguous situation.

[Dekimen]

The colonel's speech could have been cut out, and even better, no one from the special forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine could be taken prisoner. There is a possibility that after the next exchange they will again begin their subversive activities against the Russian Federation.

[uncle Vlad]

What's the point of wondering? Well, okay, we landed at least 10 boats. What's next ? The coast, no fortifications, the beach is bare. Just stupidly smeared on the sand. Artillery, UAVs, tanks and mortars. And all "Glory to the Heroes". Everybody's Free.

[acetophenone]

Quote: Egoza

in the radio intercepts of the conversations of the landing of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, speech was heard in Polish and Georgian.

Don't take these prisoners!

I think exactly the opposite.
Poles and Georgians at the end of the war, most likely, will be removed back. And ukry will remain, like the same Bandera, mimic and will crap, growing the same as they are. These are the ones that need to be exterminated in the first place.

[Moneron]

about the attitude towards prisoners of war .....
after the execution of their employees who were taken prisoner, the Wagnerites did not take more Ukrainian military personnel into captivity. the same is happening now. nationalists and volunteers fighting against each other do not take anyone prisoner, but why? re-educate? or let it cool down?
as one volunteer who was on vacation said .... the Nazis cannot be left alive. all of them have completely collapsed towers.
a mobilized prisoner of war is a fertile material for reforging.