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Khodakovsky: The theme of society and war is only gaining momentum

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Khodakovsky: The theme of society and war is only gaining momentum

The theme of society and war is only gaining momentum. This is exactly how the commander of the Vostok Brigade of the 1st Army Corps of the DPR, Deputy Head of the National Guard for the DPR Alexander Khodakovsky spoke about some social problems during the special operation conducted by our country in Ukraine.


According to him, hostilities can have the most sad consequences for both society and the state as a whole, since there is no unambiguity or universal recipe for treating problems in this matter.

Somewhere freaks beat veterans - and we judge them for this - somewhere it happens that you have to judge the veterans themselves ... Situations are different. At the same time, it must be recognized that a veteran - not always a creator of good, but often a burdened sociopath who believes that he, they say, fought - has the right. Thus, the health of society will be subjected to even greater pressure in the future, to which there is really no immunity. No rehabilitation program will help us, and therefore, we will only have to respond to manifestations. The main factor that gives rise to crime is a man with a gun.

According to Khodakovsky, this phenomenon is indeed often encountered in the NWO area:

Even during the preparation of special forces for work, I draw attention to the fact that the most likely source of threat to the civilian population after the war will be a person or group of people with weapons in hands whose intentions are clearly not good. It is for this reason that you need to be prepared for this, so that such “warriors” with grenade launchers and thermal imagers do not then run around cities and villages, keeping people in fear
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 7 August 2023 18: 05
    +11
    Khodakovsky raised a very important topic.
    so that such "warriors" with grenade launchers and thermal imagers do not then run around cities and villages, keeping people in fear
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 7 August 2023 18: 09
      +17
      And it will. the fact of what happened .. We just live in a society of self-destruction, not creation. Moreover, this creative society was destroyed, now we are reaping the benefits
      1. Saburov_Alexander53
        Saburov_Alexander53 7 August 2023 18: 16
        +14
        You can remember the wars of our Afghans with the explosion at the Kotlyarovsky cemetery ... Or the truth of life from the film "The meeting place cannot be changed", how Sharapov met a front-line friend in a gang ...
        1. Machito
          Machito 7 August 2023 18: 30
          +11
          So what to do?
          Katz offers to surrender?
          Veterans should not be abandoned after the war. And then we have, as in the well-known proverb: The Motherland will not forget its heroes, but it will not remember either.
          Until now, not all WWII veterans have been given apartments. But the bosses do not forget themselves.
          1. Saburov_Alexander53
            Saburov_Alexander53 8 August 2023 08: 26
            +1
            Until now, not all WWII veterans have been given apartments
            For this "thank you" to our legislators, who do not know how to clearly prescribe the right and procedure for obtaining apartments by WWII veterans. Indeed, in the vast majority of cases, a veteran is constrained by living space by his unlucky children or relatives who cannot or do not want to earn their own apartment and are waiting for a freebie from the state for the merits of their father or grandfather. It is also impossible to resettle a grandfather in a separate apartment, he needs care, so it turns out that apartments should be given not so much to veterans, but to his relatives, and not even in the first generation, but to grandchildren. If this is clearly stated in the law, but no ... and every time at the discretion of local authorities.
        2. dmi.pris1
          dmi.pris1 7 August 2023 18: 32
          +15
          Why go far. A few months ago, a man and a young girl-animators were brutally murdered in the Kuban. They were returning from an event they worked out. They ran into a gang. for old..
        3. saigon
          saigon 7 August 2023 19: 01
          +2
          After the Afghan, the guys came to a country that lived peacefully and a little crap (the moderator is a derivative of a vegetable) At 90 they returned again to a peaceful country flying into the anus, they listened smartly, they didn’t send you there, or the option you weren’t there and wasn’t, and in a word who went through such he understands the return. What will happen after the victory? I think and hope it will be better than it was even in the fact that different human units will not say you were not sent there.
      2. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 7 August 2023 18: 46
        +15
        You don't need all indiscriminately. People are different. But Khodorkovsky is right. Just do not flap your wings about lack of spirituality, it is not lack of spirituality that gives rise to bandits, but a false sense of impunity of a reckless man with a gun. Take at least any of our wars of the last century, incl. WWII - at the end of a surge of banditry.
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 7 August 2023 18: 54
        +7
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        Moreover, this creative society was destroyed, now we are reaping the benefits

        Let's grow up and at the end of the seventh decade we will stop (at least I will do so) to depersonalize processes. We clearly know who destroyed and how they are treated by those today's "creators" who claim that it is good to live - this is when the people do not own anything and they live by the rules. I do not find moments of destruction in my life: I defended and built.
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        There is no recipe, they will sort out the fact of what happened.

        There is a recipe ... but it's better to talk with your billionaire friend at the same table than just put him at (he knows why) ...
        Only the herd began to forget the socialist principles of social equality and the priorities of labor, and tell him about what? About how they have been pounding water in a mortar for thirty years? Or about the fact that somewhere from 2024 the country will START producing 10 aircraft per year for civil aviation?
        * * *
        The scoundrels at the top have perverted the principles of life, and it is very problematic to find a pearl in a heap of manure... Even after finding it, no one has guarantees that it will shine...
        If someone starts to stand out against a gray background, then the "dullness" will not leave him alone...
        There will be no happiness for people - happiness for centuries ...
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 7 August 2023 19: 23
          -3
          . The scoundrels at the top have perverted the principles of life, and it is very problematic to find a pearl in a heap of manure.

          Well, personally, that's why I "defend" Putin. I just understand that I would not have done more if I had been a "pearl".
      4. RED_ICE
        RED_ICE 7 August 2023 19: 13
        +2
        After every war, it has been so and so it will be.
    2. Sergei Fonov
      Sergei Fonov 7 August 2023 18: 36
      +4
      Such themes haunt humanity always, bandit formations arise everywhere, and always where there are easily accessible weapons, and there is no power capable of protecting the civilian population. Khodakovsky's reasoning does not draw on a philosophical essay, and no one has canceled the prevention of crimes, it is necessary to weed out the unreliable in time and enter into the database of persons prone to violations.
    3. Mikhail Ivanov
      Mikhail Ivanov 7 August 2023 19: 29
      0
      I wrote about this on another thread, before Skif's comment. He's right...
  2. Fangaro
    Fangaro 7 August 2023 18: 05
    +3
    And how to avoid it?
    There is no time machine to unscrew everything in the USSR. And no methods are offered in the words of Khodakovsky.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 August 2023 18: 48
      +5
      Do not call up bandits-criminals for military service. Under no circumstances.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 7 August 2023 19: 28
        0
        Still, there are different types of criminals. More than once I wanted to eat so much that I was plotting a crime. I would then repent and do a good deed. But hunger could make me...
        Although at normal times I will always return the wallet that fell from a passerby
  3. Ermak_Timofeich
    Ermak_Timofeich 7 August 2023 18: 07
    -13
    Deputy Head of the National Guard for the DPR Alexander Khodakovsky spoke about some problems

    He doesn't seem to have anything else to do. Some blogging nonsense.
  4. DenD
    DenD 7 August 2023 18: 10
    +20
    How. There is no recipe, so let's write it down. Although, stop! There is a recipe. Live by the law and judge by the law, without looking back you are a veteran or a "respected person" from the Duma of the local spill, and even if the diaspora fits in, judge to the fullest extent, without looking back. You look and people "with a gun" will no longer be afraid.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 7 August 2023 18: 15
    +1
    The theme of society and war is only gaining momentum
    . So it’s about the war, but about a strange operation, everything is very complicated, somehow foggy ...
  6. Optimus Prime
    Optimus Prime 7 August 2023 18: 17
    +8
    Until society understands who is fighting against whom and for what, nothing good will happen. Even here in the VO there is a squabble between their own. The first one didn't like the avatar, the second one's name, the third one in a humiliating way teaches another to read and write and also earns points, everyone rejoices... And so on.... all to the delight of the enemies!!! It's time to understand, there is a war. And it is only gaining momentum... Do not expect anything good without unity!!!
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 7 August 2023 19: 21
      +5
      Quote: Optimus_Prime
      the third in a humiliating form teaches another to read and write and also earns points

      For example, sometimes it becomes disgusting for me to read the publications of highly educated "advisers" and "teachers" who position themselves as docks and make four mistakes in the word "more" ...
      It becomes incomprehensible to me why my truth is perceived as “sticks”, and some nonsense without reference to the source is a panacea ...
      I recently had the experience of communicating with a site user in private correspondence and found an overwhelming similarity of views and opinions (albeit in a narrow topic) ...
      With whom will you order to unite and against whom (what)?
      I am for a decent, peaceful life for the citizens of Russia, no matter how this is achieved ... I am for waging a liberation NWO (war) by any available means that give a RESULT ... I am for the equality of all citizens before the law ... I support the proposals about the PRESENT ELECTION LAW (without days-long voting on stumps and preliminary caresses with the obligatory PERSONAL participation of the candidate in the process) ... I want a clear economic policy within the country and explanations why, despite the “good” that has lasted for decades, the population of the country is dying out ... I don’t I can't wait to find out the opinion of the guarantor about the possibility of a decent life for 17 rubles on his personal example ... Freedom of speech and personal freedom that does not infringe on the rights and financial situation of other citizens has the right to exist ...
      Quote: Optimus_Prime
      It's time to understand, there is a war.

      In this war, I do not see in the ranks of the belligerents various kinds of orators who are rooting for such methods of conduct. And it’s true - I want (yet not quite old) to live for my own pleasure ... Behind brick walls ...
      1. DenD
        DenD 7 August 2023 19: 50
        +1
        Uh, my friend, you are an idealist.
        I can't wait to hear the opinion of the guarantor about the possibility of a decent life for 17 rubles on his personal example
        Yes, for this question alone, you will be known as an ardent oppositionist.
        why, despite decades of “good”, the population of the country is dying out
        But even the inveterate "virologists, military correspondents, financiers" who speak from the screens on any occasion have no answer to this question
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  7. Thrifty
    Thrifty 7 August 2023 18: 17
    +1
    In vain, he wrote off social rehabilitation in vain. This is a complex method with individual methods of treatment-rehabilitation. But still quite effective. And the problem really has a place to be and it is necessary right now to give it a status
    state and allocate substantial funds for specialists to minimize the negative consequences for individuals and society.
  8. Umpteenth
    Umpteenth 7 August 2023 18: 19
    +1
    I am calm for veterans, the law on the removal of criminal liability from them has been adopted.
    https://duma.gov.ru/news/57345/
    This comrade actually raises the right topics
  9. Arkadich
    Arkadich 7 August 2023 18: 22
    +2
    It has always been like this, the psyche and worldview change in the war. Problems will be more acute if the state does not create a mechanism for adaptation and social policy so that these people quickly and softly adapt to civilian life. If it creates, then there will be fewer problems.
  10. spirit
    spirit 7 August 2023 18: 22
    +4
    We need to raise both our own experience and the experience of other countries, and do not be shy about it, delve into the problem now. The United States has a lot of experience in this regard, where the same "consumer" people + armed and with a bunch of war veterans. Here it is you need to study. I immediately recall the incident with one of the best US snipers Chris Kyle, who rewinded a single trip to Iraq, and shot him with his own friend with PTSD in his home state. You need to study experience and urgently hi
  11. opposite28
    opposite28 7 August 2023 18: 38
    0
    Somewhere veterans were beaten, and we judge them for this, somewhere it happens that you have to judge the veterans themselves ... Situations are different. At the same time, it must be recognized that a veteran - not always a creator of good, but often a burdened sociopath who believes that he, they say, fought - has the right. Thus, the health of society will be subjected to even greater pressure in the future, to which there is really no immunity. No rehabilitation program will help us, and therefore, we will only have to respond to manifestations. The main factor that gives rise to crime is a man with a gun.
    The main factor that gives rise to crime is the one that, after asking itself: Did I give to that?! If in a nutshell
    According to Khodakovsky, this phenomenon is indeed often encountered in the NWO area:

    Even during the preparation of special forces for work, I draw attention to the fact that the most likely source of threat to the civilian population after the war will be a person or group of persons with weapons in their hands, whose intentions are clearly not good. It is for this reason that you need to be prepared for this, so that such “warriors” with grenade launchers and thermal imagers do not then run around cities and villages, keeping people in fear
    The likely source of the threat is now, on average, 10-15 years old, who are with their parents on the territory of the Russian Federation (because "they" are "from there") left telling stories about the war in children's camps (and not only) for refugees to their peers who are "from there" left. But it’s even worse when people who have moved from the places where the NWO is held spread a personal war (especially females who love to speculate on a feathered topic) to where the locals have a completely different mentality and did not think that someone (migrant refugees who committed military operations in their own country actions) can impose someone else's war on them (in exchange for human hospitality, warmth of soul). But in schools and kindergartens, the "Donbass heroes" in all their glory show their ability to communicate with "them" on the topic of picking up someone, etc., and a local child (who has everything in the order of the natural course of life) who then a personal war is absolutely not interesting, does not understand who is talking to whom (maybe some evil spirits in the guise of a child, or maybe a feathered assistant), communicating with the "Donbass heroes" begins to spoil his own life. Thanks to the slogans from the high stands about "our war" and "common victory", which are perceived by many as a way to fight "them" with "them". And for someone, the personification, the materialization of the fulfillment of a sacred military duty until a certain awareness of the moment comes, especially when someone's garden showdowns develop into long bloody hostilities provoked by females. Something like this. A little confusing, but still... request
  12. Umalta
    Umalta 7 August 2023 18: 51
    -1
    And after the Second World War, they sort of managed it, and I won’t call my grandfathers and uncles sociopaths or psychopaths, but if they say nasty things about the country or Stalin or about the Bavarian if they surrendered, then they would have been torn on the spot! So the provocation of such people by our all-pluralizing individuals is possible!
    1. astra wild2
      astra wild2 7 August 2023 20: 42
      +2
      Colleague Umalt, the Soviet writer Smirnov, wrote "Brest Fortress" there is a story about a young defender of the Brest Fortress.
      Petre Knype, defended the fortress, participated in the Second World War. He had awards, and after the war, he ended up in a gang, participated in robberies.
      After the victory, he shot the friend of the criminal and he pulled
      1. Umalta
        Umalta 20 August 2023 18: 13
        0
        There is a case, but there is a growing trend. From this it is necessary to proceed. You can give an example of how bureaucrats answered the Afghans who had benefits, like I didn’t send you there, and yes, among them (Afghans) there were many who went into crime. This is a question not only of psychology, but also of the social environment, environment, ideology and demand.
  13. Revolver
    Revolver 7 August 2023 19: 06
    +1
    The main factor that gives rise to crime is a man with a gun.

    As they say in America, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people (guns don't kill people, people kill)." Well, I have a Nagant of 1944 release, SVT-40 of 1941 release, and a 1942 sniper rifle in my house, and what, am I already a robber and murderer?

    In Soviet times, a man is judged. The prosecutor demands to give him 3 years for the production of moonshine for the purpose of sale. As material evidence confiscated ancient, tsarist times, moonshine still.
    - Defendant, tell the court how you made moonshine for the purpose of selling it.
    - Well, citizens of the judge, I did not drive!
    - What do you mean "did not drive"? There is a device.
    Give the defendant the last word.
    - Citizens of the judge, please give me 10 years for rape.
    - And you also raped?
    - What does "not raped" mean? There is a device.
  14. cpls22
    cpls22 7 August 2023 19: 27
    +1
    In society, there is always a proportion of people who are ideally imprisoned for war, but in peacetime they are forced to lead a lifestyle that is not characteristic of their character. This makes them outsiders, with the makings of a leader. In peacetime, they go either to sports or to crime, but only those who know how to restrain themselves and use force rationally remain afloat. The survivors of the war have already understood what their dignity is, but they cannot demonstrate it in peacetime. The surge of banditry after the wars feeds on just such people.
    They are always there, but after the war there are two additional factors - available weapons, and the combat experience of the target audience.
    We need to work with these factors. Limit the circulation of weapons as much as possible, and find a use for such people, taking into account their combat experience. The cult of veterans, by the way, is also from this series - to preserve the sense of dignity acquired in the war. Roughly speaking, he went to war as a hooligan, and returned as a hero. Without any irony. You need to help a person to remain a hero. "A soldier will not offend a child" - as they say ...
  15. Alexander Ra
    Alexander Ra 7 August 2023 19: 34
    0
    spoke about some problems of a social nature ... there is no unambiguity
    It is wrong to narrow the "statement" only to the problem of deviant behavior of veterans. Indeed, there is no unambiguity in the country - informational, conceptual, cultural, behavioral. Unambiguity as a basis for organic unity, without which society is not viable for a long time. Because, for example, there are more 500s than mobilized. Curiously, they ask to come to the polls and the subsequent ban on criticism. And this is the suppression of the movement of information. The restriction of information, in turn, is ... disorganization - of society. This is a trap.
  16. dump22
    dump22 7 August 2023 19: 56
    +1
    a veteran is not always a creator of good, but often a burdened sociopath


    A year of continuous war turns almost anyone into a sociopath.
    But some come back to normal and some don't.
    Some of them weren't normal to begin with.

    A striking example is the recent murder of six people in Karelia.
  17. astra wild2
    astra wild2 7 August 2023 20: 19
    +1
    "there is no unambiguity", and it cannot be.
    This is only in science fiction films, perhaps programmatic population control.
    As a physician, I say: while medical science is powerless here.
    And how wonderful it would be: I installed the program and everyone became kind and decent
  18. egorMTG
    egorMTG 7 August 2023 20: 52
    +1
    - The topic was touched upon in a timely manner... More and more combatants will return to civil society, and there will be more and more problems described. I would not want these problems to be solved by the "proven" methods of the 90s.

    - Only active participation and immediate opposition to everything negative and unfair, on the part of the overwhelming majority of an adequate Society, will it be possible to resist the emergence and development of such situations. Unity of action is needed:
  19. ivan2022
    ivan2022 7 August 2023 20: 53
    -1
    It's high time for Khodak to refer to A. M. Gorky. On the article of our classic: "On the Russian peasantry" for 1922 ....

    A hundred years ago, the participants of the Civil War said: "The war with the Germans is hard, it's a pity to ruin such an economy ....
    And here in Russia - he has a gun, I have a gun - we are equal, we will beat each other - the earth will be freed. Only and everything. What is there to regret? "

    Why regret something, what's the point? This is what people understood a hundred years ago ....
  20. hhurik
    hhurik 7 August 2023 21: 55
    -2
    Quote: sergey backgrounds
    Such themes haunt humanity always, bandit formations arise everywhere, and always where there are easily accessible weapons, and there is no power capable of protecting the civilian population. Khodakovsky's reasoning does not draw on a philosophical essay, and no one has canceled the prevention of crimes, it is necessary to weed out the unreliable in time and enter into the database of persons prone to violations.

    The base will save everyone, yeah. wink And also to ban weapons, any - as in Asian countries of the Middle Ages, one knife on a chain in the center of the village, in current conditions - one per floor, welded to the battery in the stairwell with a chain as thick as the leg of an average young lady (photo attached).
    Prevention, again, needs active-offensive, tea is not in a fairy tale, it is necessary to introduce preventive arrests. I ended up in the base, it doesn’t matter how - and for a couple of months in a cell-type room, plus one month in a psychiatric hospital. It will be checked at the same time for the moment of legal capacity and the possibility of access to the aforementioned knife.
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  22. new.ad
    new.ad 8 August 2023 23: 18
    0
    Quote: igorbrsv
    Still, there are different types of criminals. More than once I wanted to eat so much that I was plotting a crime. I would then repent and do a good deed. But hunger could make me...
    Although at normal times I will always return the wallet that fell from a passerby

    In Europe, you could be sued for thoughts alone, but we have such a country that if you are not caught, you are not a thief.