A military analyst from the United States admitted the prospect of losing Odessa after the final failure of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

When the counter-offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine finally fails, Ukraine may face quite a tangible prospect of losing control over Odessa. This was stated in an interview with Dialogue works by a US military analyst, former chief of staff of former Secretary of State Colin Powell, retired colonel Lawrence Wilkerson.

The expert believes that Russian troops, having inflicted a defeat on the Ukrainian forces in the Zaporozhye and then Kherson directions, will be able to launch an offensive towards Odessa and reach it. Then Ukraine will lose the last major port on the Black Sea.

Wilkerson believes that the decision of the Kyiv regime to launch a counter-offensive in the Zaporozhye direction led to a real nightmare for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Ukrainian army suffered heavy losses both in personnel and in equipment. This level of losses only brings the further defeat of the Ukrainian troops closer.

An American military analyst believes that initially Ukraine had no chance of holding out in a confrontation with Russia. Even large-scale assistance from NATO countries could not improve the situation, the expert is convinced.

It should be noted that such pessimistic statements are increasingly heard in the Western press, and they are uttered by an increasing number of American military observers and experts. For example, analyst Scott Ritter, a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer, recently predicted the imminent total defeat of the UAF.

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[guest]

A military analyst from the United States admitted the prospect of losing Odessa after the final failure of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

And why are the most optimistic analysts from the US?

[carpenter]

Quote: guest

And why are the most optimistic analysts from the US?

Because the US is at war with Russia, so they are instructed to make optimistic analyzes.

[Got it]

Be that as it may, Odessa and Nikolaev are necessary, otherwise the NWO is half implemented. More precisely, along the Sumy-Cherkasy-Odessa line, which means it will take time and the supreme one certainly understood this.

[Orange Bigg]

The Supreme Commander tells Ukraine to recognize the new regions of Russia that became part of it in 2022, and Crimea and we will sign a peace treaty, but Thank God Ukraine rejects this, so who knows, as fate would have it, where Odessa will end up. .

[Vitaly161]

I agree, cut off the region from the Black Sea as it should, like the land corridor in Transnistria

[Alan81]

so they will dig another sea ... here we all need to think hard

[isv000]

Quote: Alan81

so they will dig another sea ... here we all need to think hard

Here are the remains and dig in, as with ASF!

[dmi.pris1]

What can you know that the supreme one certainly understood? No, it's good if he understands this. Simply, over and over again we see how he is ready to negotiate with those who should not be allowed on the threshold of the house.

[January]

The Americans are more optimistic than we are... Among Russian "analysts" the opinion is heard more and more often that we are moving towards another "agreement". Although the need to cut off the independent from the sea is obvious ....

[astra wild2]

I don’t know about the Americans, but Ukrainian

[guest]

Quote: ian

Americans are more optimistic than we are...

I wrote the same thing, but I got downvoted.

[Vladimir Nizhegorodsky]

It’s long overdue.
The time has come.
The Supreme Commander-in-Chief promised to return the GDP to the borders of the parish in the USSR.
Kyiv, Kyiv region,
Chernihiv and Zhytomyr regions.
That was Ukruina 404.
Don't spank anymore.
This is before the communization of the ruins.
Wait, there is decommunization, deoccupation and denazification.
The jokes are over.

[vladcub]

Sweet Dreams. The sweeter the less likely

[isv000]

Quote: Vladimir Nizhny Novgorod

It’s long overdue.
The time has come.
The Supreme Commander-in-Chief promised to return the GDP to the borders of the parish in the USSR.
Kyiv, Kyiv region,
Chernihiv and Zhytomyr regions.
That was Ukruina 404.
Don't spank anymore.
This is before the communization of the ruins.
Wait, there is decommunization, deoccupation and denazification.
The jokes are over.

The capital - in Zhytomyr, the president - Yanyka ...

[Zaurbek]

For such movements, we need another group of troops for 300-500 tons of fighters ... During the Second World War, Nikolaev and Odessa were taken after Kharkov and Kiev (not along the South, across the rivers).
In general, even with the defeat of the current army (and the 2 has a mobile reserve for another 3-404 years and they will be given all the weapons), it is necessary to double the troops at the front. And if the Black Sea is not cut off from 404, then we will not have normal navigation.

[alystan]

During the Second World War, Nikolaev and Odessa were taken after Kharkov and Kyiv (not along the South, across the rivers).

And the decision was definitely the right one. Otherwise, if everything had been done exactly the opposite, then it would have become a serious and difficult task to defend and protect it from the northern direction. And to arrange the supply of troops (along the South and across the rivers) would be simply unrealistic.

And if the Black Sea is not cut off from 404, then we will not have normal navigation.

Well, there is still Georgia and Bulgaria with Romania, which will only be happy to annoy Russia.
Yes, and the Turks should not be discounted, they are already trying with might and main to harm us in every possible way, while making another mine. Not forgetting to get all sorts of "buns" from "cooperation" with Russia.

[Rage66]

Are you ready to personally participate in the "doubling"?
Or is it just your expert opinion?

[Zaurbek]

If you read carefully, I reason. If there is no mobilization, then there will be no coastal territories. But, in that case, we will get the next war. Because 404 during the truce will be well armed and healed. And dragoning the Russian Federation is profitable and not so expensive. As for me, if the Motherland begins to persistently call, then my opinion is unlikely to be of interest to the military commissar.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Zaurbek

And if the Black Sea is not cut off from 404, then we will not have normal navigation.

Quite right. Moreover, at the end, according to the peace treaty, the Black Sea straits will be opened. And the Black Sea will be flooded with warships of NATO countries, all kinds of transports with military equipment for Vsuk. The former Ukrainian SSR has no sea, Russia has no problems. In any case, there will be, but not in such volumes ... Odessa and the mouth of the Danube ... It seems to me that there is some kind of non-public agreement on these territories. I want to be wrong.

[guest]

Quote: 30 vis

And the Black Sea will be flooded with warships of NATO countries

And also NATO bases in Odessa and Ochakovo.

[vladcub]

300 500 is not enough. In the Second World War, the total number of the Red Army was 14 million, directly, the Kiev offensive operation: 6 million, reversed in manpower, artillery, tanks.
And now, according to Western experts on tanks, parity: about 860-890,, units, they have the most in Europe, anti-tank weapons, in artillery, we have an advantage, but in MLRS they have better quality, they have competent control of counter-battery combat .
Everyone admits: Staver, Sladkov, Baza, they have better internet connection. Someone wrote that the Chinese and I are trying to catch up, Starlink. This launched an analogue in Siberia. But we are 6-7 years behind, which is a lot
They have perfect aerospace intelligence.
With such forces, only Odessa and Kyiv can be stormed. It’s better to put the parts, but they won’t say thank you

[Zaurbek]

Assaults of cities are a separate issue. It is necessary to storm, it is not necessary .... You can isolate - you can’t ... How many cities can you keep surrounded like that?

[Zaurbek]

But there were also many Wehrmacht forces there. And the cities were stormed.

[guest]

Quote: Zaurbek

And if the Black Sea is not cut off from 404, then we will not have normal navigation.

Yes, not only navigation, there will be no normal life in the Crimea and new regions, only constant Ukrainian terrorist attacks.

[Vladimir80]

But taking into account the fact that the bridges across the Dnieper are standing, and the top of the Bandera movement calmly rides along the front ... Then the reasonable will understand everything and think of it for themselves ...

[isv000]

Quote: Zaurbek

For such movements, we need another group of troops for 300-500 tons of fighters ... During the Second World War, Nikolaev and Odessa were taken after Kharkov and Kiev (not along the South, across the rivers).

Called 300, volunteers for 7 months. 230 came, the army, in general, at the time of the beginning of the NMD was under fire ... According to minimal estimates, now in the army there are under 900 thousand fired soldiers and commanders. By my unprofessional reckoning...

[Uprun]

At the same time, neither the striped nor the shaves speak out against Westerners. Everyone understands that we do not need it, and the sooner it goes to the psheks, the Hungarians, the sooner the clown regime will collapse. Therefore, psheks are still kept on a leash .....

[isv000]

Quote from uprun

At the same time, neither the striped nor the shaves speak out against Westerners. Everyone understands that we do not need it, and the sooner it goes to the psheks, the Hungarians, the sooner the clown regime will collapse. Therefore, psheks are still kept on a leash .....

It is not good to squander state-owned lands! This way they will have an appetite for Belarus, and for the Kuriles, etc., etc. ... This song will last forever, if now, all at once, in a yushka, you don’t fill up their slurp, so that the unuchki then chew bread for them !

[Wolfskin1993]

Under the protectorate of Russia SHOULD be all the territories on which nuclear power plants are located, the Black Sea coast, of course, this is not even discussed.

[Rage66]

Cool opinion...
I'll add 5 cents too.
Under the protectorate of Russia should be Poland, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland

[isv000]

Quote: Rage66

Cool opinion...
I'll add 5 cents too.
Under the protectorate of Russia should be Poland, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland

Moreover, for sprats with Chukhons, gold was paid, according to garlic, for eternal possession! Or let the coins turn back!!!

[guest]

Quote: Rage66

Poland, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland should be under the protectorate of Russia soldier

Great idea, but unfortunately it's not science fiction.

[Rumata]

No no no. Odessa is the key to Victory, but first Kharkov.
Well, and then Manhattan and Berlin.

[Bledar]

No no no. Odessa is the key to Victory, but first Kharkov.
Well, and then Manhattan and Berlin.

Alaska and Brighton Beach

[Rumata]

Quote: Bledar

Alaska and Brighton Beach

Fort Ross. Whose California?

[Andrew A.]

When you expect the heat to be raked by someone else's hands, then at least Taiwan and Sydney can be added to this list.
And when your own life or the life with the health of your own children is at stake, then you should think about the final beneficiaries of Taiwan and Manhattan.

The victory in Ukraine has no right to be Pyrrhic. Otherwise, they will devour them in 20 years and will not choke.

[fa2998]

You explain to me, not a strategist - HOW can you lose Odessa when Ukraine advances in the "new" Russian regions? For hundreds of kilometers!
Russia has not liberated the Donbass for a year and a half, they are constantly "shooting" in Donetsk, what the hell is Odessa!

[Vovavvs]

The American judges by how the generals' heads flew, and the admiral's, apparently, will follow, who hope that they have been "forgotten" by the lost cruiser, the cancellation of the prepared landing operation in Odessa, the denial of real assistance to the landmen in the defense of the Serpent, etc. and so on.

[seamen2]

*American judges by how the general's heads flew*
Well, what is Surovikin's fault?

[guest]

Quote from seamen2

Well, what is Surovikin's fault?

Kherson who passed?

[isv000]

Quote from seamen2

*American judges by how the general's heads flew*
Well, what is Surovikin's fault?

...and the captain sends us a familiar sign - it's not evening yet!...
Sergey Vladimirovich will still have his weighty word to say. Thanks to the Kherson initiative and the Surovikin Line, we have preserved the army in its current form...

[vladcub]

On Topvar, Marzhiretsky says: an amphibious assault in Odessa is tantamount to the loss of the fleet: the approaches are mined, a lot of anti-ship missiles "Harpoon, Neptune," They also mined from land
In the Second World War, there was a land bridgehead in the immediate vicinity, and in May 2022 we were far from Odessa. The fleet has been preserved and there is something to accompany civilian ships

[igorbrsv]

How did they lose the rest? Also

[Ghost1]

I don’t understand at all who generates and voices such news, at least they monitor what is happening on the fields of the NWO. To implement such plans, a lot is needed in the military plan, while this is not visible in any way.

[vladcub]

"not visible" but the sofa generals are delighted

[Vladimir80]

As an option - preparing society for a new mobilization, such as "just a little bit more and we, uuuh!"

[isv000]

Quote: Vladimir80

As an option - preparing society for a new mobilization, such as "just a little bit more and we, uuuh!"

Shitty initiative to send childless children to slaughter...

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Such forecasts are made because it is obvious to an officer of any General Staff: even the Russian Federation, even NATO.

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

According to OSINT, during the month of the counteroffensive, the army of the Kyiv regime lost 62 square kilometers of territory, which corresponds to the area of ​​a city with a population of 100 inhabitants. As for Odessa, in any case, she will return to her "native bosom"

[al3x]

Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19

62 square kilometers

Thank you. Laughed. At this pace, by the end of the century, "liberation" can and will be completed.

[igorbrsv]

So it was she who lost 62 sq. Km in a month of her counteroffensive.
The whole world has been waiting for their "counterattack" for half a year, if it also ends "suddenly", in six months, as it began, then the moment can be "missed". But while they stubbornly lose a thousand a day, only the dead are worth the wait

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

well, British intelligence said that bushes and grass interfere ... well, it’s still dark there at night, it’s raining there, I don’t know ..

[Carlos Hall]

Now the main thing is to continue to hold the southern front and prevent the enemy from breaking through. The circumstance of the Ukrainian offensive should also be used to inflict heavy losses on the enemy and at the same time recapture Kupyansk.

[Andrey Shpakov]

That is, to force several large rivers .. it's time for us to spit. This is like stealing - suicide .. and we are like two fingers. What nonsense.

[fa2998]

Quote: Vladimir Nizhegorodsky

Wait, there is decommunization, deoccupation and denazification.
The jokes are over.

Nothing is going on now. There are "steps in place." And victorious speeches on TV.

[opposite28]

Some unfortunate Kleshcheevka fought for many months, but they are aiming at Odessa. Donetsk is being shelled from MLRS, what kind of Odessa is there ?!

[Turbuta Dave]

The most dangerous thing is to lose the sense of reality...

[Turbuta Dave]

Hat-throwing 100%
Hahol, strong. Motivated and experienced. You can’t take it with your bare hands ... Only a riot from the inside, Maidan # 3 and then the division of Ukra into 3 parts

[Roma 1977]

Forcing the Dnieper in the lower reaches is excluded. Everyone should firmly understand this. Odessa can pass under the control of the Russian Federation only after the destruction of the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the left bank of the Dnieper, and the subsequent surrender of Ukraine, under the terms of which it will be forced to transfer Odessa without a fight. Operations on the Right Bank are impossible without the capture of Kiev. And to Kyiv - as to the moon.

[Simple]

Well, then it remains only to launch uninhabited expeditions to Kyiv from the cosmodrome. Once every fifty years.
(Sarcasm)

[evgen1221]

Odessa was and will be a Russian city on the sea!

[Metallurg_2]

This is some kind of new Nostradamus, before that, apart from Ritter and McGregor, I had not heard of anyone.

[petrol cutter]

Why so?
Schaub has come a fiasco - the troops of the Russian Federation must go on the offensive.
As far as I understand, such events are not foreseen in the foreseeable future.
In the future, only my arthritis will develop. That's all that's clear to me. Of all these articles

[lisikat2]

What do they think in America? I don’t know, but I know what Ukrainian UAVs hope for in September, October, they will paralyze the army and city administration. Communists take power and reparations negotiations
About Shariy, Budanov organizes explosions of gas stations, a supermarket, pensioners demand to hand over the Crimea.
Our sociologists believe: the surrender of Crimea will cause nationwide indignation and the end of those who surrendered Crimea.
Here's what I got

[Incvizitor]

The calculation was on the economic destruction and discontent of the people, but every time when the occupiers climb on our country, the people climb not to jump, but to give them lyuli, and it turned out with the Ukrainian occupiers.

[aszzz888]

An American military analyst believes that initially Ukraine had no chance of holding out in a confrontation with Russia. Even large-scale assistance from NATO countries could not improve the situation, the expert is convinced.

Correctly "thinks". Yes, and Odessa will definitely be ours.

[Victor V.]

I don’t know about Odessa, but maybe someone will remind me which war was won last with the help of minefields. Are they really going to drive 55 year old mobs forward ...

[Vladimir80]

Judging by some of the comments, stupid propaganda turns on reserves and comes up with more and more fantastic (optimistic) forecasts for the development of events

[isv000]

US military analyst admits the prospect of losing Odessa

It is time for this analyst to predict the closure of the Ukraine project due to complete failure and the inability to breathe on his own. I am sure that the signing of any "agreement" to freeze the conflict will be perceived ambiguously by the people and the army, to put it mildly. The very case when the people and the army can become truly united!