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Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed to meet in Turkey

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Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed to meet in Turkey

Today, on August 2, the previously announced telephone conversation between the presidents of Russia and Turkey took place.

It is worth recalling that on July 29, Vladimir Putin announced an agreement with Recep Tayyip Erdogan to hold a telephone conversation. At the same time, the Russian leader then admitted the possibility of a personal meeting after the aforementioned conversation.

Tellingly, today's conversation between the presidents of the Russian Federation and Turkey was the first since June 24. During this time, a number of events have occurred that directly relate to relations between the authorities of the two countries. In particular, after the attack on the Crimean Bridge, Russia terminated the "grain deal", and before that, Turkey, violating the agreements reached earlier, sent to Ukraine the leaders of "Azov" (a terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation), who had surrendered to the Russian Armed Forces at "Azovstal" .

At the end of the telephone conversation between the two presidents, it became known that Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed to meet in Turkey. Writes about it RIA News with reference to a message received from the office of the Turkish leader.

The latter says that during today's conversation, the heads of state reached an agreement on Vladimir Putin's visit to Turkey. At the same time, the office of the Turkish President did not disclose the date of this meeting.
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  1. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 2 August 2023 14: 27
    +18
    It looks like something bad is being prepared for us. A trap, how to drink.
    1. Egeny
      Egeny 2 August 2023 14: 29
      +10
      Dima, don't exaggerate, our guarantor ... will just go to bow.)
      ... don't fucking get up.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 2 August 2023 14: 42
        +9
        What for Putin to go to Turkey (a NATO member country) - to the two-handed Erdogan and the traitor of both Putin and Russia ?!
        Well what the heck?!!!

        To raise the international rating of Erdogan with your visit?

        Moreover. There is no trust in Erdogan from the Russians! And it just can't be!Two-handed Erdogan will also arrest Putin in Turkey, no matter how unrealistic it may seem!

        How many times will the leadership of Russia in relations with Turkey and personally with Erdogan shamefully step on the same rake?!


        At worst, on the contrary, let Erdogan come to Putin in Moscow!
        1. carpenter
          carpenter 2 August 2023 15: 01
          -1
          Quote: Tatiana
          Two-handed Erdogan will also arrest Putin in Turkey, no matter how unrealistic it may look!


          Turkey is not a party to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, which issued a warrant for Putin's arrest, so there is nothing to fear. Unless some Turkish nationalist can interfere with him, as was once the case with the Russian ambassador to Turkey.
        2. Jsem_CZEKO68
          Jsem_CZEKO68 2 August 2023 15: 06
          0
          S vašim názorem souhlasim, Erdogan bere Putinovi ústupky jako slabost Ruska!! Putin by mu neměl věřit!
          1. Jsem_CZEKO68
            Jsem_CZEKO68 2 August 2023 15: 07
            +9
            I agree with your point of view, Erdogan perceives Putin's concessions as Russia's weakness!! Putin should not trust him!
            1. isv000
              isv000 2 August 2023 16: 05
              -1
              Quote from Jsem_CZEKO68
              I agree with your point of view, Erdogan perceives Putin's concessions as Russia's weakness!! Putin should not trust him!

              Putin should not trust anyone at all, except for the army and navy!
        3. Dane
          Dane 2 August 2023 15: 40
          +6
          "Moreover, there is no trust in Erdogan from the Russians! And it simply cannot be!"
          From the Russians there is none ..... but upstairs has its own game ...... and we can only look at all this ..... no matter what agreements are planned there, we are spectators in this theater))))
        4. Gardamir
          Gardamir 2 August 2023 17: 09
          +1
          Well what for?!!
          And let's just wait. Although! Remember the pilot was shot down? They talked to the public about tomatoes. at that time, tomatoes and eggplants were sold in all shopping centers in Moscow. So who's the double-dealer?
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 2 August 2023 19: 07
            -1
            Quote: Gardamir
            .... They broadcast about tomatoes to the public. at this time in all shopping malls ..

            So it is now, too, they say, they started with the fact that some unacceptable midges were found, the fruits were not allowed through and they rot in warehouses. And that this is just the beginning ..... and what else. How long to wait for a response from Russia.
        5. Escariot
          Escariot 2 August 2023 20: 33
          +1
          Are there options? Türkiye is now one of the main hubs for parallel imports + sits on the Straits. You can also recall that our contingent in Syria at any time may be subjected to massive attacks from the Syrian opposition. Our country obviously does not need unnecessary problems now.
      2. AAK
        AAK 2 August 2023 17: 25
        +5
        That he’ll just go to bow - quite yes, especially if the questions relate to Syria, parallel imports and the Bosphorus, I believe that the Sultan may well bend the Greatest for a couple of buns, but I don’t know about the transfer of the Guarantor to The Hague, everything can be here , for "Friend-Vladimir" the mattresses of the Sultan will be given not only F-16, but F-35 ...
      3. Bear
        Bear 2 August 2023 21: 16
        +1
        With all my respect for women, and if you are really a woman, the king will never go to bow to the Sultan. Trust me if you have even the slightest idea of ​​what diplomacy is.
      4. Escariot
        Escariot 2 August 2023 22: 23
        -2
        Not "on a bow", but to give an explanation why Russia broke the agreement with Turkey, when Turkey fulfilled its obligations, and Ukraine, as a third party to the agreement, was not caught by the hand in violation of this very agreement.
    2. Gvardeetz77
      Gvardeetz77 2 August 2023 14: 32
      +6
      Commissars from The Hague will hide in closets and behind doors? ))
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 2 August 2023 14: 44
      +10
      Even Tsar Peter the Great said "don't believe three, don't believe a Turk, a drinker and a woman"!
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 2 August 2023 15: 01
        +6
        . don't trust the drinker

        And even more so for non-drinkers wassat
      2. velikoros-xnumx
        velikoros-xnumx 2 August 2023 15: 04
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        Even Tsar Peter the Great said "don't believe three, don't believe a Turk, a drinker and a woman"!

        Great words
    4. Clear
      Clear 2 August 2023 14: 47
      +8
      How tired of these Erdogan pokes in the back. Fuck you with your hotels and beaches!
      In general, is Putin in a stalemate? request
      1. Dane
        Dane 2 August 2023 16: 06
        +2
        But hypothetically put yourself in Putin's place........what would you do? Honestly, I don’t see a way out to all this that’s going on with both the NWO and the Russian economy .... how in a swamp it’s unclear where to go .... and you can’t return either ..... if you already climbed into the swamp, you should know how to get out of it, but we climbed at random, but we don’t know the path
        1. Alf
          Alf 2 August 2023 19: 46
          -2
          Quote: Dane
          But hypothetically put yourself in Putin's place........what would you do?

          I would raise the country for 20 years, and not show the way to cranes and catch pike in the river, where they never lived ...
      2. isv000
        isv000 2 August 2023 16: 07
        0
        Quote: Clear
        How tired of these Erdogan pokes in the back. Fuck you with your hotels and beaches!
        In general, is Putin in a stalemate? request

        Actually, Edik was ready to come to Sochi, but here such luck!
    5. knn54
      knn54 2 August 2023 14: 48
      +3
      "You will be with us in Kolyma - you are welcome! - No, it's better you come to us!"
    6. carpenter
      carpenter 2 August 2023 15: 05
      +5
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      It looks like something bad is being prepared for us. A trap, how to drink.

      Oligarch Abramovich returned to Russia for a reason, but brought with him a heap of "gifts" from the West. Among them: an ultimatum on the grain deal.
  2. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 2 August 2023 14: 31
    +1
    Türkiye violated the agreements reached earlier

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    1. Jsem_CZEKO68
      Jsem_CZEKO68 2 August 2023 14: 40
      0
      Ten obrázek je velmi povedený a přesně vystihuje chování křiváka Erdogana!
      1. Jsem_CZEKO68
        Jsem_CZEKO68 2 August 2023 14: 40
        0
        The picture is very funny and accurately describes the behavior of the rogue Erdogan!
        1. isv000
          isv000 2 August 2023 16: 11
          +2
          Quote from Jsem_CZEKO68
          The picture is very funny and accurately describes the behavior of the rogue Erdogan!

          This rogue must be given credit for his ability to walk on the edge of a knife and walk on a tightrope blindfolded! So one must be able to glide between the powers that be and stay afloat.
        2. Alf
          Alf 2 August 2023 19: 47
          -1
          Quote from Jsem_CZEKO68
          The picture is very funny and accurately describes the behavior of the rogue Erdogan!

          Erdogan or?
  3. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 2 August 2023 14: 31
    0
    Maybe wait for confirmation from our side, and only then we will swear?!
    1. Egeny
      Egeny 2 August 2023 14: 35
      +2
      ... heard on the "FM business" ... don't go nuts ..
    2. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert 2 August 2023 14: 46
      -5
      It follows from many sources that Putin announced his readiness to return to the grain deal, but only after the West fulfills all Russian conditions - the export of Russian fertilizers, the unblocking of our traditional sea routes, the suspension of SWIFT blocking in settlements under the grain deal, etc. .
      But something tells me that the West will not agree to our terms. From the word at all. Not for this, sanctions were introduced, so that later they could turn on the back.
      In addition, there is no point in giving back now - the seaports of Ukraine have ceased to exist, the river ones are at the stage of finishing off.
      Erdogas is waiting for unpleasant news from GDP...
      1. Alf
        Alf 2 August 2023 19: 49
        -2
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        But something tells me that the West will not agree to our terms. From the word at all. Not for this, sanctions were introduced, so that later they could turn on the back.

        Easy and with a song. The can can sign whatever Putin wants. And then say-Sorry, bro, Congress has not ratified, I can not do anything ...
      2. Escariot
        Escariot 2 August 2023 20: 38
        -2
        The funny thing is that the West did not conclude a grain deal with anyone at all. This "grain deal", which is actually called "the UN initiative to export grain from the Black Sea ports of Ukraine", based on the name itself, does not have a single word in the text about SFIFT, insurance or fertilizer exports. What makes you think that the West will comply with the requirements, which are not in the document? And the West did not sign the document itself from the word at all, because there are only signatures of representatives of Russia, Ukraine and Turkey. What questions can there be for the West at all!? There are more questions for Comrade Lavrov, who signs such nonsense.
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    1. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 2 August 2023 14: 36
      0
      oleg-nekrasov-19 hi, the Turks have already stated once that they have achieved an extension of the grain deal, and Peskov denied it, and as we see, the Turks were wrong, so here we will wait for either a refutation or confirmation.
      1. oleg-nekrasov-19
        oleg-nekrasov-19 2 August 2023 14: 54
        0
        the fact of the matter is that many Russian media use the sources of the "Turkish office", and not the official ones, the same applies to the "meeting". As for the "grain deal", that is, the official confirmation of Putin's position in a telephone conversation with Erdogan - "until Russia's conditions are met, there is no point in extending the grain deal" It's like some Russian "vonecors" who have never served - sources of Ukrainian telegram channels .
        1. Escariot
          Escariot 2 August 2023 20: 46
          -1
          You understand that these "Russian conditions" must be documented in some way. Like this: Clause 1) Russia is letting grain out of Odessa, Clause 2) The West will unblock SFIFT ... etc., however, the documentary part of the "grain deal" called "Initiative for the export of grain from the Black Sea ports of Ukraine" does not contain a single from the points of Russian demands from the West. Moreover, the West did not conclude this deal at all, because the actors there are Russia, Ukraine and Turkey.
    2. Egeny
      Egeny 2 August 2023 14: 39
      +2
      ... big politics ,,, when they sold their dignity ... frail yuan already 13 grouse each, shame!
  5. oleg-nekrasov-19
    oleg-nekrasov-19 2 August 2023 14: 34
    +2
    Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
    Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed to meet in Turkey

    officially from the Kremlin news sources it sounds a little different "we agreed to prepare for a possible meeting", but our journalists and bloggers interpret it anyway as it is beneficial for them.
    1. Alf
      Alf 2 August 2023 19: 51
      0
      Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
      but our journalists and bloggers interpret it anyway as it is beneficial for them.

      But then for some reason they are right...
  6. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 2 August 2023 14: 34
    -5
    Extending the grain deal after Erdogan's betrayal is unacceptable and a loss of face
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 2 August 2023 14: 40
      +4
      Come on! Not the first time .. I don't care about your face ...
  7. Jsem_CZEKO68
    Jsem_CZEKO68 2 August 2023 14: 35
    0
    Erdogan není dobrý člověk, neumí dodržet slovo chlapa, typický Muslim, který má radost z toho, že druhého podrazí! Neztracel bych s Erdoganem tolik času jako Putin, neváží si výhod, které mu Rusko nabídlo! Erdogan je falešný zmetek, kterému bych nedal tolik výhod od Ruska, nezaslouží si to.
    1. Jsem_CZEKO68
      Jsem_CZEKO68 2 August 2023 14: 35
      +6
      Erdogan is not a good person, he will not keep a man's word, a typical Muslim who takes pleasure in tripping another! I would not spend as much time on Erdogan as on Putin, he does not appreciate the benefits that Russia has offered him! Erdogan is a fake scumbag, to whom I would not give so many benefits from Russia, he does not deserve it.
  8. Kronos
    Kronos 2 August 2023 14: 35
    +5
    Actually, as Erdogan said, Putin will visit him in August.
    1. isv000
      isv000 2 August 2023 16: 13
      0
      Quote: Kronos
      Actually, as Erdogan said, Putin will visit him in August.

      August in Russia is an interesting time, anything can happen...
  9. spirit
    spirit 2 August 2023 14: 35
    +3
    Someone goes to the "Lady" to be humiliated. And someone goes to Erdogan good
  10. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 2 August 2023 14: 36
    -1
    Is it really necessary for our Vova to go to the crafty Turk? No matter how anyone treats Putin, but now there is a war !! As there is in the saying - "Do not trust three: do not trust a woman, do not trust a Turk, do not trust a non-drinker." With women, everything is clear. Let the fair sex not be offended! love With non-drinkers 50 to fifty drinks .. But with the Turks one hundred percent hit am . The past and present bear this out.
    1. Jsem_CZEKO68
      Jsem_CZEKO68 2 August 2023 14: 43
      0
      That's all!
      1. Jsem_CZEKO68
        Jsem_CZEKO68 2 August 2023 14: 43
        0
        Your comment is very accurate and true!
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 2 August 2023 14: 49
          0
          Quote from Jsem_CZEKO68
          Your comment is very accurate and true!

          Thank you . The Slavs should not believe the Turks. This is the historical enemy of the Slavs.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 2 August 2023 15: 10
      +3
      Quote: 30 vis
      As there is in the saying - “Do not trust three: do not trust a woman, don't trust a Turk, don't trust a non-drinker».

      No matter how the Turks with the teetotaler are not muddied with another "volunteering". am
    3. Alf
      Alf 2 August 2023 19: 52
      +2
      Quote: 30 vis
      Is it really necessary for our Vova to go to the crafty Turk?

      And what country does the gray import go through? What about gas?
    4. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 3 August 2023 06: 51
      -1
      Quote: 30 vis
      don't believe Turk

      Turks minus? Here it is, Erdoganych ... VO is full of Turkish fans
  11. igorra
    igorra 2 August 2023 14: 48
    +3
    Will go sometime. I don’t think that after the enchanting jambs of the Grand Turksultan, our guarantor will believe in the safety of the trip. He does not go to the BRICS summit, but here he is in a hostile country. For the sake of the IMF tranche, this Turkish radish will sell its mother. Plus, such a moment, an oath given to a non-orthodox is worth nothing either before Allah or before people.
  12. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 2 August 2023 14: 50
    -2
    And why wouldn’t Erdogan come to Russia himself, since he really wants to talk? .. What, weakly insist on his own?
  13. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 2 August 2023 14: 55
    +2
    "... At the end of the telephone conversation between the two presidents, it became known that Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed to meet in Turkey." (c)

    "It's easy to deceive me - I myself am glad to be deceived ..." (c)
  14. bravo77
    bravo77 2 August 2023 15: 05
    0
    Will Pasha give an exclusive knife stand?
  15. bravo77
    bravo77 2 August 2023 15: 08
    +2
    I see local patriots have already clearly written down Pasha as enemies

    forgetting about gas pipelines, discounts on gas, nuclear power plants, tomatoes
    "Better Erdogan than the other candidate"
    1. A17ttt
      A17ttt 2 August 2023 15: 59
      0
      The product line is a very interesting point.
      It is planned to discuss the customs line between Turkey and the EU - on the issue of supplies of processed products to the EU (ie, in the format of warm up and eat).
      Which in general will protect the internal market of the EU and at the same time create surpluses in the warehouses of Turkey.
      Thus, purchased for resale or unprocessed - gets into the money.
  16. alystan
    alystan 2 August 2023 15: 14
    +2
    Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed to meet in Turkey

    Is it on the way to Iyhanesburg?
    The President of South Africa also seemed to harness himself for Russia's return to the grain deal.
  17. bravo77
    bravo77 2 August 2023 15: 15
    +1
    Quote: Clear
    How tired of these Erdogan pokes in the back. Fuck you with your hotels and beaches!
    In general, is Putin in a stalemate? request


    what about Erdogan
    Isn't a sucker guilty when he is deceived by a crook

    Pasha has his own interests and he owes only to his people
    in my opinion, it is obvious even to a child that he will act according to the situation
    for the completely hopeless, you can read history books

    for the same dung, show official documents on the duties of the Turks,
    on the grain deal, the same thing, where are the signatures of Russia?
  18. kenig1
    kenig1 2 August 2023 15: 16
    +7
    Again, someone will scream and tell how Russia was deceived.
  19. Katya_Ivanova
    Katya_Ivanova 2 August 2023 15: 58
    +2
    If only he was not immediately transported from Turkey to The Hague. That would be really humiliating. And the rest is not scary. We are already on the verge of complete surrender. At best, it will be necessary to abandon claims only to the Crimea and Donbass. At worst - also to Rostov and Kuban. And, of course, indemnities, reparations, compensations.
    1. Yuriy Malyshko
      Yuriy Malyshko 2 August 2023 16: 24
      0
      Well, don't write at all! Although I am not a Putinist, I cannot imagine such an outcome even in a nightmare.
  20. samarin1969
    samarin1969 2 August 2023 16: 01
    +3
    Erdogan has so many "buttons" on the Kremlin that a visit is more than likely. Gas transit has more influence on the foreign policy of the Russian Federation than other strategic interests of Russia.
  21. Yuriy Malyshko
    Yuriy Malyshko 2 August 2023 16: 12
    +6
    So, let's place bets on who will beat whom next?! I, as usual (because I have never made a mistake), put on the Janissary .., sorry, on Erdogan.
  22. Nross
    Nross 2 August 2023 18: 11
    +2
    Russian Ambassador Karlov was killed in the back by those whom Padrogan trusted.
    What does it cost them to kill the President? This is the same incident-belli, as with the ambassador, yes - a little more serious.
    Ours then swallowed this "incident" - they believed Pedro, and since then he has been arming the Ukronazis no less than Hermania and Lyagushatia.
    It is naive.
    Although if the goal of the Russian production and the VPR is to have a reason to wipe Turkey off the face of the earth, say, with 500-800 calibers with nuclear warheads, then yes - a viable option.
    In all other cases, going to a NATO country with which the Russian army is fighting is a reason to doubt the legitimacy of the entire government of the Russian Federation!