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Reality of the country as a virtual unreality: what does the TV screen hide from us

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Reality of the country as a virtual unreality: what does the TV screen hide from us



“We want to reform...
how to sell these reforms to the population,
which is… stupid and which, of course, will interfere?”

Gleb Pavlovsky, about the work of Gaidarovsky
Work Center for Economic Reforms, early 1990s

“In politics, nothing happens by accident.
If something happened, it was meant to be."

F. D. Roosevelt

What's happening?


The fall in the country's population, going on for the fifth year in a row, is a very alarming sign. Many believe that we are "getting up off our knees." But the country is dying out, and this process is absolutely irreversible in the current conditions.

In 2021, the numbers were simply catastrophic: the population decline was 1 thousand people, in 042 it is no better - by 2022 thousand people. And although there is a slowdown in this trend year on year, in 555 we lost 2023 people in the first quarter, and in terms of the year, the numbers are not the best.

The population of the RSFSR in 1992 was 148,51 million people; as of January 01.01.2023, 146,44, the population of the Russian Federation was 31 million people. In total, over 2,067 years of reforms, the population of the country has not grown, even despite the annexation of Crimea, the total decline is 8,79 million people. At the same time, the population of Russia in the penultimate decades before the “reforms” (as part of the USSR) grew at a rate of about 10 million people. every XNUMX years!

It is not difficult to estimate that in 31 years it would have grown by at least 20 million (by a maximum of 27 million people), reaching now 168 million people. In fact, at the beginning of 2022 - 145,47 million people. Consequently, the damage to population growth amounted to about 20 million people. And there was a war. And the war continues - both there and here.

The catastrophe is in the drop in the birth rate. Now those who were born in the 90s were supposed to give birth, but then there was the so-called "shock therapy" under the leadership of the "dancing" president, liberal ministers and their American advisers. And now we have a "demographic hole" comparable to the wartime events.

Q: Why was there no "shock therapy" in China?

Because the new "workshop of the world", like raw material Russia: both of them are a project of the United States. New China, starting with the reforms of 1978, when American travelers began to travel there, was created taking into account the weakening of the USSR.

During the period from 1990 to 2010, the population of the Russian Federation decreased by 6,1 million people. For comparison: during the Great Patriotic War - by 13,4 million people. The level of GDP in 1922 relative to 1913 was 57%, and the level of GDP in 1998 was 60% of the 1991 level. And how many people this "experiment" spoiled the fate of how many he limited the choice?

How was such a strong suppression of state power achieved in peacetime?

While we thought that the West was “our friend”, the US was methodically and cynically (!) destroying its main competitor. The USSR and its geopolitical legacy were destroyed, it was necessary to bankrupt Russia.

In 1992, prices were raised dozens of times at once, and a catastrophic VAT of 28% was introduced. The savings of the population disappeared, the money supply collapsed, and the economy was gone. Businesses have collapsed, it's time for barter. All that was left was bought up by local dodgers and foreigners.


Since 1991, the country has been ruled by the right, there has been no change in the ruling party, with the exception of the sparkling star of Primakov, who pulled us out of the 1998 crisis. But Yeltsin quickly got rid of an unnecessary rival, although Primakov's reforms gave a positive trend until 2007, a little later they got rid of Luzhkov, who wrote the right things in his books. In more than 30 years of the liberal cycle, no progress has been made in the development of the economy or the prosperity of the country.

According to the latest calculations by Moscow State University specialists (and not only them), in fact, about 60% of the poor population in Russia (for comparison, Rosstat data is 10,5% in 2022). And the average growth rate of Russia's GDP during the liberal period was less than 1%!

Yes, a revival of the economy is now planned, but this is solely the result of the withdrawal of Western companies. At the same time, the average growth rate of the RSFSR economy within the USSR in 1950–1990 was one of the highest in the world and amounted to 6,6% (!)

According to the HSE, in 2022 real incomes of the population are still 8–9% lower than in 2013 (according to official data), and real estate and car prices have reached exorbitant heights.

But if in 1997 there were only 6 dollar billionaires in the Russian Federation, then according to the data for 2022 there are already 110 of them, including an increase of 22 over the past year. Someone is war, and someone is a mother.

So for whom does the Russian state exist and who does it serve?

We do not even have a two-party system, as in the United States, where the picture is somehow changing.
I wonder if there would be changes for the better if power in the elections were transferred from the right to the left parties?

Maybe our “market” is wrong? After all, the USSR not only produced galoshes? And what if we add our consumer sector and market relations to its planned and financial system, industry and science? Would a strong hybrid come out? But who will make such an offer?

Recently, Patriarch Kirill said that today Russia is facing such dangers that "challenge the very existence of the country." And obviously, this is not only a military threat.

There is an interesting maxim on this topic in the US Declaration of Independence: “We proceed ... that all people are created equal and endowed with ... inalienable rights, which include life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. To ensure these rights, governments are established by the people ... In the event that any form of government becomes destructive for these very purposes, the people have the right to change or abolish it and establish a new government based on such principles and forms of organization of power as it seems to them will best provide people with security and happiness…”

The great Russian writer Valentin Rasputin, a pillar of Russian spirituality, gave this (and our) time the following striking description in 2013 in his book These Twenty Killing Years: "A state deliberately killing itself - this has never happened in the world."

But what has changed since then?

How does our economy generate a demographic crisis?


In the 90s, having denigrated the USSR, promising a heavenly life under the “market” and suggesting that the West is “friends” for us, we were simply deceived. As political technologists used to say in Yeltsin's campaign in 1996 - "vote or lose"!

A beautiful picture flashes before us on TV, but this is not all of Russia: these are her grains, but something and not her at all! But Russia is completely different, one that is far from Moscow. A second changes an hour, an hour changes a day, a month changes a year. The picture is one, but the physical results of social processes are completely different.

The main feature of the current economy is that it makes the Russian people unnecessary. The system deprives the people of creation, which was in the USSR. And this is the main reason for our self-destruction. The share of imported products in the food, clothing and electronics market in 2022 was about 19,8%, 45,6% and 79%, respectively. In the most important key sectors of our industry, from the automotive industry to pharmaceuticals, the share of foreign value added exceeds 50%.

In regions where there is no raw materials, oil, gas and grain, complete collapse. Since the times of the USSR, a horse has not been lying there. There are changes, roads are being repaired somewhere, but that's not all. The old enterprises are mostly destroyed, there is nowhere to work. There are places - he himself went and saw where, as if during this time, there was a war. And there really was a war.

Are there any fundamental changes, trends?


How many people work in commodity companies, a lot?

In the super profitable oil and gas sector in 2022 - 603 thousand people. In the rapidly developing information sector - 761 thousand people. According to data for 2021, 17,5 million people are employed in the public sector. And this is the answer to our question.

In Soviet times, the country had a huge army, countless factories, research institutes: work was everything! He himself worked both at the plant and at the research institute: he saw everything. And where it is now - in shopping and office centers - everyone will not have enough. According to official figures, unemployment is as low as 3,9%.

We are talking about the quality of work and its availability in the regions. But, according to FinExpertiza estimates, hidden unemployment is 13% of Russia's workforce, which is three times higher than official figures.

And the largest share of the demographic damage falls on the key, Russian ethnic group.

Man is a very sensitive being. When there is no work or poverty increases, mothers will not always bear children. But subsidies for children, although better than nothing, will not solve the problem. If people feel their uselessness, they are not able to be fruitful.

The Russians, unfortunately, do not have such traditions as the Asian peoples, where no matter what happens, you have to give birth, at least 3, where the creation of a family is the main thing. Although there were such traditions before the revolution, in the XNUMXth century the village suffered, and no one will give birth in cities where the maximum area is three rubles.

In Soviet times, almost everyone created families. And now the population reduction programs tested in the West by the world government are working at full strength. People are put on the needle of survival, making money, the main thing is work, then a mortgage, housing, which in the USSR was free or affordable (HBC), costs astronomical money.

Demoralization of the population is going on through music channels, on the Internet and even on TV. We are told that families are unstable, they instill individualism. And now, almost all digital television packages have been “stuck” with “adult” channels. No one will be born from virtual love.

Speaking in 2012 at a meeting of the Izborsk Club, Archimandrite (now Bishop) Tikhon (Shevkunov) noted:

“... the vulgar liberal ideology quite obviously dominates society, in all spheres of our life and is distributed by almost all mass media ...
For the past twenty years, a powerful propaganda machine has been working non-stop in our country, which seeks to change what is now called the “mentality of the people” ...
Many traditional institutions of our society, including the institution of the family, have been subjected to the most severe information repression ...
It is absolutely clear that this cannot continue indefinitely or even for a long time, that this situation must be changed...
They agreed with this even in all the official offices where I had to visit, but there was no practical movement ... "

The largest reduction is in the titular nation - Russians. According to the 2002 and 2010 censuses, the number of Russians in Russia decreased by 4,9 million, while the number of representatives of other nationalities increased by 2,6 million. According to the 2021 census, 105,58 million people called themselves Russians. (against 112,51 million in 2010), i.e., already by almost 7 million people. less: and this despite the annexation of the Crimea.

According to various estimates, if current trends continue, in 2040 there will be no more than 90 million Russians, and by 2055-2060 the share of Russians may fall to 50%. And we are already talking about this problem not only patriots, but also our Chechen friends.

Who are we going to lay claim to for what happened in the 90s? Gaidar, Yeltsin, Gorbachev? All of them are in the other world. As Yeltsin said: "Sorry, we didn't succeed."

But the seeds sown by them not only destroyed a significant part of the vitality of our state, but their matrix inexorably and indefatigably continues this process day after day and year after year, the results of which we see. But we can't do anything. Because the picture is great: everything is fine. We are like Jews in Egypt, only there is no Moses, although he was found in Tsarist Russia.

Does Russia have a state?


In vain it is believed that the elite that governs Russia has no purpose and ideology, that the country has problems in development due to incompetence, mistakes, etc. Read Roosevelt's quote about politics. There is a goal and ideology, but it has not been publicly announced. The country is governed clearly and sharply, the system is strong and will not change just like that, officials and the elite live in a “different state”, which is bursting with incredible prosperity, mutual responsibility is everywhere and in everything, and its restructuring in the usual way is practically impossible.

And so that we don’t get “infected” with something else that is not useful for them, we are told about the uselessness of a discussion about state ideology or a national idea. We are told one thing, but in reality, the opposite is often true.

The government constantly gathers for meetings where they discuss issues, the most important of which have not been resolved for more than 20 years. The ministers who put us on imports are given instructions on import substitution. Can a goat be allowed to guard a cabbage? Everything is like in Krylov's fable "Swan, Cancer and Pike".

The tasks of increasing the well-being of the population, increasing the birth rate, and creating new jobs are set: it is absolutely impossible to fulfill all these tasks in a resource-based economy, which is based not on production, but on imports. Not now, not in 10, not in 50, not even in 100 years. To become buyers, citizens need to be producers. And although the sanctions are forcing us to restore some production, this is not the mainstream. Now only about 10 million people are employed in the manufacturing industry.

Doctor of Economic Sciences Yevgeny Gontmakher, who is also considered a liberal, states the following:

“First of all, I put forward the thesis: there is no state in Russia. At the same time, there is a certain structure in which millions of people who call themselves officials work ...

Instead of the state as an institution pursuing a course for the development of the country, we have a gigantic and uncontrolled private structure that successfully extracts profits for its own benefit.

There, inside this “state”, everything is fine: high salaries, high-quality medicine, preferential vouchers. The rest (and this is the vast majority of the population) are losers, whose place is at best in the servants or at an increasingly scarce feeder.

And, in his opinion, the main task of society is to return the state to Russia!

The elite does not want to develop the country, although they can. She is afraid that the development of industry and technology will throw the commodity lobby to the sidelines. stories, as it already happened in England during the Industrial Revolution, in the USA after the Civil War, when Tsarist Russia was broken into the USSR, etc.

Our economy, despite some progress, has high costs of doing business. This is a snake that devours itself by the tail. High bank rates, expensive real estate, high tariffs of monopolies and their constant growth, high taxes (except for simplified taxation and the self-employed), the dominance of bureaucracy. On the contrary, in China the whole system is geared towards production and growth.

Of course, there is “progress” - housing is being actively built at exorbitant prices, shopping and business centers, the number of cars is growing, store shelves are full of goods, mostly imported. But this is not affordable for everyone. Moscow swells, sucking in all of Russia, the most talented youth, and other zones of "well-being" also work.

But all this masks the deepest crisis of Russian civilization.

At the same time, this whole system “hid” behind the president, who enjoys the trust of the people due to his personal political charisma and qualities of a leader.

Managed Democracy and Brainwashing



The meaning of setting these unrealizable tasks in advance is to “sell” (see Pavlovsky’s term in the epigraph) to the population the illusion of progress and vigorous activity. But time goes on, although it has stopped for us.

Why is our system so strong and stable?

The works of the Russian philosopher I. Ilyin and A. Solzhenitsyn on the lessons of the revolution were carefully studied. Having analyzed the mistakes of the tsarist authorities and M. Gorbachev, who themselves and voluntarily made it possible to develop pluralism and real democracy, which ultimately caused the collapse of power, the Kremlin political technologists came up with a system of “managed democracy” (the so-called “long state”), which is one of the most durable in the world. And Gleb Pavlovsky was one of the fathers of this system.

Skillful craftsmen through TV and the media create the illusion of change and the search for justice among the people. Everyone on the TV screen will find something that is pleasing to his ear: liberals - their own, patriots - their own, pensioners - their own. Although for the majority of the population their life is continuous "survival". Yes, there is a war going on, and it is quite clear who is with whom.

But our political technologists were not the first, a similar system has long been in the United States, where the circus of the "two-party" system has been implemented, and the power belongs to big capital.

The media and TV are filled with "talking heads", public figures, "interpreters" of the actions of the authorities, who have "licenses" of different levels. You will always see the same names in Zen. Some were even sent from abroad. They give public lectures and can be found at opposition conferences. They will tell you - soon there will be a fight against the oligarchs, a new industrialization, a purge of the elites, an offensive at the front, where ours will take Kharkov, Nikolaev, Odessa. Who is cooler - we will reach Kyiv. The most popular meme: they will remove this one, they will appoint this one.

All this is complete nonsense. No one will ever be removed and no one will be appointed. The main capital in power is personal loyalty, the rest is secondary. Another trick, now obsolete, is the so-called "transit of power", which was used to entertain the people during the change of the "tandem". Or Operation Successor.

And constant broadcasts, where they show the reality of the fight against corruption, where dozens of convicts are visible, including high-ranking officials. Bravo!

But for the country it does not change anything. The system is focused on embezzlement and corruption, on the export of capital from the country abroad: and this is a way of “feeding” the elites. In the economic system of the USSR, this was simply impossible.

We will be shown some kind of construction, an excellent factory, a poultry farm, an advanced cowshed, the achievements of science, despite the fact that many of our cities and towns in the regions are turning into a backwater. Yes it is, but not everywhere.

And on TV there are a lot of exclusively foreign Newsbut not about the real situation in our country. Why do we constantly show programs where they grind all the bones of Ukraine? And about the US elections more than about their own?

The beginning of the 2000s passed under the auspices of the fight against the oligarchs. Indeed, removed the most odious. The rest grow stronger and richer, and their number, like capital, grows.

How many criticized the "grain deal", who just did not write that this is part of the military logistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But our TV was silent. And two weeks after the withdrawal from the deal and the attack on the Crimean bridge, everyone suddenly saw the light: a series of revelations began. And what damage was done to our Army?

All this blows off steam, creates the illusion of a search for justice, a fiction of movement, about which the philosopher Ivan Ilyin wrote. For Russians love and seek the truth. But the truth is only God.

All this is based on the use of the amazing (!) gullibility of the Russian people, which comes from their natural kindness and genuine Russian Christian principles.

The voice of the liberals, crying about Russia



Here are the pearls of Alfred Koch, ally of Chubais and Gaidar, former Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, Chairman of the State Property Management Committee (he emigrated to Germany in 2015):

“Now Russia has appeared, but nobody needs it. There is no place for it in the world economy... The Russians cannot earn anything... A raw material appendage... Further - the collapse, the transformation into a dozen small states... within 10-15 years..."

To a journalist's question: “What is your niche in Russian life? - There is no niche. (Chuckles)...

There was a man in the government who absolutely did not believe that the country could rise. And, therefore, he was there, upstairs, for something else.

Somewhere all this was. Oh yes! The United States recently published a plan to divide Russia into 17 parts. Once the USSR was divided into 15, but this, apparently, is not enough. As Alexander III aptly said: "They are afraid of our hugeness."

Igor Yurgens, head of INSOR (Institute for Contemporary Development), professor at the Higher School of Economics, stated in 2010:

“The Russians are hindering the modernization of Russia - the bulk of our compatriots live in the last century and do not want to develop ...
Russians are still very archaic ... human capital has not matured ...
The economically active population is characterized by dequalification, degradation, lumpenization and even debilitation.”

Although this thesis was expressed a long time ago, it periodically appears in one form or another.

Is it not this people who created the world's first reactor, launched the first man into space, aren't we building nuclear power plants all over the world? Is it not this people who, by their labor, brought fascist Germany to its knees? Isn't our military equipment being exported?

Let's answer this with the words of our great writer Valentin Rasputin:

“They took everything away, appropriated it according to the new laws, and there was nowhere to lay hands on a person. Absolutely nowhere, even cut them off. The whole merry-go-round of life was built on the bargaining of someone else's goods ... "

“Construction workers are recruited in Turkey and Tajikistan, oil and gas are pumped by shift workers from Ukraine and Moldova, potatoes and cabbage are grown by the Chinese ... And the people wander restlessly with their remnants: in their native country it is no better than in exile ... And he, the former great people, has turned , a burden: you need to water, feed, add a pension, reassure that everything is going right ...
Yes, I forgot: one service still remained. Vote. One use was found for the people.

There are collections of sayings of the liberal elite, and they are of the same type. As they say in such cases: “who do you work for”? But, as the Bible says, “by their fruits you will know them.” We are still a serf "population", and we are ruled by new "landlords and nobles".

The Russian people are one of the most intelligent, reading and educated nations. But they want to make us like that - hence the USE system, all these insignificant proposals and talk about the uselessness of mathematics, about the complexity of the school course, and the new initiatives of the Ministry of Education to train teachers for schoolchildren up to 9 grades outside universities. And, as before the revolution, they are trying to use the Church as an instrument of the state.

Where does the wind blow?


Sanctions hysteria is an excellent reason for brainwashing the layman. More change so that there is no change.

Although the United States decided to dispose of us, which was the reason for the NWO, the processes of external influence are largely preserved. World government is nonsense, you say! Of course, what is the WTO, the IMF, the World Bank - these are the structures of the same government. There are odious figures and organizations like Schwab with his "reset", the Belvedere and the Club of Rome.

Who sowed the world with covid?

Who worked out the technologies of "late times" on it, when the entire population will be under the complete control of these structures? Both the monstrous pension reform and the VAT increase were initiated for us by the IMF. Where did Gaidar's team study, who wrote the laws for the Yeltsin government?

IMF staff run the Ministry of Finance and the Bank of Russia, and they are watching closely to keep us in the “trend”.

Also, many other laws and initiatives are being silently passed, for example, juvenile justice, education reforms, digital economy, which are actually sanctioned by the world government.

Society dreams of a leftist trend, but why are we ruled by the right?


As a result, our people became disillusioned with the free market according to American patterns. Stalin's ratings are growing, including among the youth, and in 2017 he topped the list of the greatest people of our time.

According to opinion polls (September 2022), almost two-thirds of Russians (62%) sympathize with socialism, and this is the maximum in the history of polls.

According to VTsIOM data at the end of 2022: almost 50% of Russians want the restoration of the USSR, and 58% of citizens regret its collapse. According to the monitoring data of the Institute of Psychology of the Russian Academy of Sciences: about 80% of the population of the Russian Federation give a negative assessment of the scenario of "inertial" economic development, which, in their opinion, leads the country to a dead end. Despite the well-known attitude of the Church towards the USSR, Soviet films are shown through church channels. And this is also a sign.

The communist renaissance is knocking at the door: "the ghost of communism is haunting." Therefore, the most dexterous boarded planes and flew away during Prigozhin's march. No system can last forever. The law of entropy increase is universal - if there are no changes, errors accumulate, and "black energy" in society begins to grow. Elections are one thing - talking in the kitchen is another.

A reassessment of attitudes towards the system is taking place in society, and in the near future a qualitative leap may occur (as in the processes of crystallization), which will lead to the loss of the system's legitimacy.

The comparison is. In the evening you walk along the pond and see that water is splashing peacefully in it. But when you arrive in the morning, you find that the pond is already covered in ice. And it is impossible to defrost it! We need to wait for a long thaw!

So: if everyone is so “left”, why are we ruled by the right?

Political life as a theater


Valentin Rasputin:

“We have seized the richest country, we have seized the most powerful weapon influence on the masses - it is clear that they will use these weapons until the last hour to hold on to power.

Political life has been turned into a theater that creates the illusion of competition. The main goal of the authorities is to prevent voters from voting for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (Zyuganov) in the elections. And this is the most terrible outcome of the elections, both for the West and for our elites. Until now, there is a lot of evidence that G. Zyuganov actually won the 1996 elections.

Clones have been created. The entire left-wing electorate is wisely spread out on the shelves - there are few supporters of the market; but those who believe that the communists are "bad", welcome: here are the "fluffy" socialists. But all these are games in the common field with the ruling party. If the left had come to power, the necessary reforms would have been carried out long ago.

Liberals fiercely hate the USSR and everything connected with it. There is a constant exaltation of tsarist Russia and denigration of communism (except for the events of the Great Patriotic War), and this is the most important element of brainwashing. The USSR is no longer there, and the war with its phantom goes on without ceasing. Repressions, sharashkas, galoshes, works by Solzhenitsyn. But the USSR, as it was the greatest country, the highest point of our and world civilization, will remain so.

Interest Ask. What should an Orthodox person take into account?

Sometimes you can see that in the pre-election period they try to use the priesthood for the corresponding sermon. There were persecutions in Rome as well, in our country during the church schism. Persecution may arise not at all from the "new communists", but when the Russians become less than 50%, which is what external enemies are trying to achieve.

And the answer is from the philosopher Nikolai Berdyaev, who is respected by the Church, but had a positive attitude towards the left movement:

"and you have to lose your conscience to consider capitalism more appropriate to Christianity."

So what will happen?


Not so long ago, the writer Alexander Prokhanov, who had been searching for the truth for his Motherland all his life, stated the following:

“Development has stopped… We have all stayed too long, we feel sick in this stopped society. We yearn for the fact that the economy is falling, for the fact that there are no large and bright projects ... The country is filled with thieves, it is being plundered, there is a feeling that Russia is without a master. And these are all very serious symptoms.”

And recently, A. Prokhanov said that the current events are the collapse of the same - "Yeltsin's" Russia.

How do we vote? Someone has a dacha, someone is making preparations, someone has bought a new car ... Someone understands the whole pointlessness of what is happening. But the fewer voters, the better the system. All that is needed to try to change the situation is to come and vote for the very party that the holders of the current system are so afraid of in the next elections.

Now, carefree boys who are 16-17 years old are walking along the street. What awaits them against the backdrop of the "prolonged" NWO? Where will they work - merchandisers and couriers? It is impossible to allow the continuation of the unpunished undeclared war against the Russian people, carried out by super-sophisticated methods that have no end in sight.

And, as Emperor Alexander II (“The Liberator”) said:

“It is better to abolish serfdom from above than to wait for the time when it will of itself begin to be abolished from below.”

Why such hatred? Russia is a “tough nut”, and it does not directly allow to launch those processes that allow successfully “decomposing” Christianity in Europe and the USA. We are for traditional values ​​and will not support same-sex marriage and minority propaganda.

Russia, like the USSR, is a messianic country, but China is not. We are an obstacle for them, just like the Russian population. Hence all the observed events.

Having completed a 100-year revolution, we have returned to a society that was destroyed by the events of 1917. All this is a colossal revenge of the bourgeois revolution. We again fell into bondage to foreign capital and the local oligarchy. Capitalism has caused in our country an unprecedented civilizational, moral and economic crisis: it is not compatible with the Russian "matrix".

Despite the fact that our losses in the SVO are several times smaller, they are. And if in big Moscow this information is “diluted”, then in small towns these events are more noticeable. The absence of clear goals and successes in the NWO leads us to the scenario of the First World War, associated with the accumulation of discontent and fatigue in society.

Didn't we have both in 1917 and 1992 the state changed within a few days?

If the required reforms do not follow, perhaps there will be some event "H", when "society breaks", and the system will change. Most likely, it will be associated with the NWO: and its contours can already be seen. And everything, as before, can take several days and happen no later than 2025 - 40 years of the Russian people wandering through the deserts of liberalism.

And our fifth column will hopelessly break on the head and paws of the Russian bear.
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  1. Cartalon
    Cartalon 1 August 2023 05: 06
    +9
    And what generates the demographic crisis in France, Germany, Poland, Japan, South Korea?
    If people have moved to cities and have mastered contraception, they will not reproduce.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 1 August 2023 09: 58
      +31
      Quote: Cartalon
      And what gives rise to the demographic crisis, in ...

      a new ideology of consumption, it does not imply caring for others, it is based on the satisfaction of one's own needs
      capital managed to defeat the main scourge of capitalism, the crisis of overproduction, you have a "smartphone", but you need to buy a new one - fashionable and it does not matter that the old one will last another 10 years, although modern ones will no longer last
      1. Cartalon
        Cartalon 1 August 2023 10: 45
        +5
        It is strange that this ideology already worked perfectly in the USSR and none of my relatives had more than two children, except naturally for a grandmother in the village in the first half of the century, she raised six.
        1. Zhan
          Zhan 1 August 2023 12: 29
          +6
          Yes, I readily agree with you, under the Union, Transcaucasia, Central Asia proliferated rapidly. Remember the 80s, consider half of the military units consisted of Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan.
          And now look who we have in the right elite? FORMER KOMSOMOL MEMBERS AND CANDIDATES FOR MEMBERS OF THE CPSU ..! smile What a metaphor! smile And this "Elite" has perfectly mastered the methods of hanging noodles on people's ears from our former party functionaries. There were a lot of decent people, I don’t argue, but look what happened when they began to come to power ..
          We need a force that will unite the people, and will not pit them. And it must be a force that absolutely knows how to resist our liberal bureaucracy. It reminds me of one paradoxical situation, when, after the Second World War, an outright counterattack began to rush to power.
          And they did seize, here is the ideology of the elites. I remember very well when this contra wrote anonymous letters to my grandfather. Thanks to SMERSH, they saved my grandfather from trial and execution, though I had to sunbathe on the bunk for a couple of months, they took them, and when they dug, there was such a set .... they let them go.
          1. My address
            My address 1 August 2023 18: 52
            +9
            Who is in our elite? Those who do not have to work anywhere, just not to work. The last one in power among those who did business was Brezhnev. And then on an inclined plane ... EBN was just sick with some ailment (tse two, ash five, oh ash) plus nobility. And then ... On a ten-point system, I reduce the author's rating to 10 for a large array.
      2. Irokez
        Irokez 1 August 2023 15: 19
        +16
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        a new ideology of consumption, it does not imply caring for others, it is based on the satisfaction of one's own needs

        That's right. If earlier in schools they taught honesty, conscience, care, responsibility and hard work, then what happens now when calls from every zombie and Internet with social networks go like this:
        - Live while young
        - you deserve it
        - take everything from life
        - make yourself
        - as well as a bunch of advertising seducing and pushing for pleasure and entertainment.
        And after all this, as a young and not yet strong person in life, to have a child who will strain him and require care, time and many inconveniences.
        Until the age of 30, few people even think about a child and dream of a career with entertainment.
        and even not everyone wants to arrange a wedding if they have already fallen in love.
        Wow, how was it in the USSR:
        - 25 years already the old maid was considered.
        - as a rule, after school, they usually went to work in local institutions or looked for, but for work, and who is very smart in an institute, technical school, vocational school.
        - boys in the army to become a seasoned man.
        - there were kindergartens everywhere and help for mothers - a nursery (from 3-5 months already in a nursery, and my mother is at work).
        - tax on childlessness (no children 1% of the tax from the salary, and if there are children, then - 1% of the tax and a surcharge due to those who do not have children, plus maternity capital, and so on).
        - parasitism and speculation were suppressed for an incentive to go to work.
        So I think that if at least half of the rules are introduced with the USSR, the situation will already improve.
        In my opinion, too many freedoms and entertainments were given to the young, but they are our future and they need to be prepared for adulthood from childhood, youth and youth by stimulating the desire to work with carrots and a whip, and without this, a parasite and a lazy person will dream of entertainment.
        1. dmi.pris1
          dmi.pris1 1 August 2023 16: 55
          +6
          You know, I agree with you. There is only one BUT! I have four sons, two are already adults. And they are all wonderful .. And they grew up and were brought up in these nasty social relations. one sad thought came to mind, looking at all that is happening in the country. Who will protect such a state if trash happens? I was wrong, there were guys from Our Court
          1. aglet
            aglet 2 August 2023 08: 49
            0
            "Who will protect such a state if trash happens?"
            What, someone attacked us? Nato, how many are waiting? and the battles are going near Moscow? what are "the guys from your yard" worth, recent events on the borders with Georgia, Kazakhstan, and other Baltic states have shown
        2. Torp20
          Torp20 2 August 2023 14: 14
          -2
          What are you all whining about the ideology of consumption here - give up the benefits of the West, there are a lot of things - there are bast shoes, there are matting and forests full and forward to the taiga - which is hard, there’s nothing to whine about consumption.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 1 August 2023 20: 33
      +7
      Quote: Cartalon
      And what generates the demographic crisis in France, Germany, Poland, Japan, South Korea?

      Capitalism. Living conditions have changed, and the economic system is stuck in a rotten capitalism that negatively affects the birth rate.
      1. glestwid
        glestwid 12 August 2023 01: 47
        0
        And what kind of capitalism led to a decrease in the birth rate in the USSR in the 70-80s? Everything was fine with the birth rate only in Central Asia
    3. Mikhail Krivopalov
      Mikhail Krivopalov 2 August 2023 05: 58
      +2
      As a true patriot, when identifying a problem, he immediately appeals to "Look how they are abroad!" ... Why were the cities in the USSR then the same, but the population grew?
      1. Cartalon
        Cartalon 3 August 2023 11: 05
        +2
        It grew, while Central Asia and the Caucasus grew there
    4. U-58
      U-58 2 August 2023 06: 15
      +7
      The main question is correctly voiced: So for whom does the Russian state exist and who does it serve?
      And it's good that the publication of such questions has become possible.
      It's time to think.
      No, not to the ruling circles. They know everything for themselves. And they know "correctly".
      It's time for people to think.
      Especially during election periods.
      Moreover, there is a left-wing alternative in the country. Even if it is in the pen, under the pressure of all sorts of "only Russias", but it exists.
  2. ivan2022
    ivan2022 1 August 2023 05: 08
    +6
    It is better not to recall the parallel with Scripture. For Moses led the Jews in the wilderness. And our current leaders can only be related by blood. But not in spirit.

    The ancient Jews lived after the great betrayal - they were 33 years old and in 0066 they got a war with Rome. And there was no stone left unturned.

    And we turn 33 years old exactly in 2024 ...... And the big War is already on the threshold.

    PS The wonderful film "Promised Heaven" at one time put Ryazanov on this topic ....... There is both the present and the future and the essence of generals and subordinates and the attitude to the merits of their ancestors .... It seems that it is not the Promised Land, namely Heaven is waiting for us. Yes, and the Guarantor hinted and guaranteed .....
    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 1 August 2023 09: 38
      -2
      All this "magic" of numbers is from the evil one, if we recall the Old Testament stories, then the situation is closer to the Babylonian captivity ...
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 1 August 2023 05: 35
    +23
    All this is a colossal revenge of the bourgeois revolution
    In 1991, a counter-revolutionary coup took place, and the bourgeois revolution, though in 1905, took revenge in February 1917
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 1 August 2023 06: 37
      +14
      An interesting article ... By the way, in defiance of yesterday's article about demography in Ukraine ... The ending is just wonderful .... About a possible revolution and ... the collapse of the fifth column ... Mixed together, horses, people ...
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 1 August 2023 07: 24
        +28
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        demographics in Ukraine...

        The unique project of the USSR frightened world capital in such a way that to this day (even 30 years after its collapse) they are methodically squeezing / destroying its legacy. But it is not enough to destroy industry and ruin science (there was almost no one or the other in the Republic of Ingushetia, but they learned and rebuilt ...), you need to destroy the people who managed to do this. It is the destruction of the triune people (Russians/Ukrainians/Belarusians) that will mean the final oblivion of the socialist project. And everything is done for this.

        To Article:
        So for whom does the Russian state exist and who does it serve?

        Any capitalist state serves the interests of world capital. There is no other way under the capitalist system.
        We do not even have a two-party system, as in the United States, where the picture is somehow changing.

        We may have at least 52 parties, but this will not change anything at all.
        1. Vladimir80
          Vladimir80 1 August 2023 09: 15
          -30
          A unique project that lasted a little over 50 years? And what is unique about it that no one wants to repeat it? With all due respect to the USSR, you can’t make a fetish out of it, because history has shown how easily it fell apart (work on the mistakes is needed!)
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 1 August 2023 10: 29
            +26
            Quote: Vladimir80
            A unique project that lasted a little over 50 years?

            In fact, it lasted three generations, taking into account the enormous pressure from all sides, including from within, with the help of bribed traitors. This is unique in that this has never happened before.

            Quote: Vladimir80
            that no one wants to repeat it?

            Hehe, how do you know? It seems to me that many would like to, just go and mention it now, as soon as you instantly turn out to be: an "extremist", "terrorist", "national traitor" and sit down for a long time. And if for some reason your popularity is high among the masses, then an "accident" may also occur ... The capitalists will not allow such gross "mistakes" as the USSR did.
          2. paul3390
            paul3390 1 August 2023 11: 27
            +20
            It was not in vain that Ilyich wrote that the main achievement of the October Socialist Revolution was the first proof that socialism was possible. And what's more, it's extremely effective. For the achievements of the USSR are colossal and fantastic. Like the deeds of the gods..

            As for the timing, the classics, again, knowingly said that the movement towards communism cannot be victoriously straightforward. There will definitely be ebb and flow, the old will not give up its positions so easily.

            Remember the first experiences of capitalism - how long did the war last in
            the Netherlands? And how long did the English Republic last after the execution of Charles I? And after all, every time the satisfied feudal lords probably reasoned like you - well, everything, kirdyk to the bourgeoisie, feudalism - it’s kind of eternal, what’s there - they only lasted 20 years .. And the French Republic, as we remember, also ended with the Empire and then in general - with the return of the Bourbons ..

            But what did it all turn out to be in the end? Where are these feudal lords? That's exactly the same - and with the first experience of socialism in the history of mankind .. In a couple of hundred years, descendants will ask in the same way - well, where are all these bourgeois of yours?
            1. Ulan.1812
              Ulan.1812 1 August 2023 19: 20
              +10
              Quote: paul3390
              It was not in vain that Ilyich wrote that the main achievement of the October Socialist Revolution was the first proof that socialism was possible. And what's more, it's extremely effective. For the achievements of the USSR are colossal and fantastic. Like the deeds of the gods..

              As for the timing, the classics, again, knowingly said that the movement towards communism cannot be victoriously straightforward. There will definitely be ebb and flow, the old will not give up its positions so easily.

              Remember the first experiences of capitalism - how long did the war last in
              the Netherlands? And how long did the English Republic last after the execution of Charles I? And after all, every time the satisfied feudal lords probably reasoned like you - well, everything, kirdyk to the bourgeoisie, feudalism - it’s kind of eternal, what’s there - they only lasted 20 years .. And the French Republic, as we remember, also ended with the Empire and then in general - with the return of the Bourbons ..

              But what did it all turn out to be in the end? Where are these feudal lords? That's exactly the same - and with the first experience of socialism in the history of mankind .. In a couple of hundred years, descendants will ask in the same way - well, where are all these bourgeois of yours?

              Exactly. Besides, socialism is not something frozen.
              Of course, it is already possible at a new level.
              The craving of mankind for a just order of society is eternal and indestructible.
              Yes, the first attempt ended in failure.
              But this is not because the idea is vicious, but because the performers were incapable.
              We were the first to follow this path through trial and error.
              Before us, there was no experience of building such a society in history.
              There was no one to take an example from and no one to ask.
              At the same time, they built and developed the theory of building such a society.
              No wonder Stalin said, without a theory we die.
              He was the last theoretician who was looking for ways to build and develop socialism.
              Nobody did it after him.
              The USSR had a huge potential for improvement and modernization. But this mechanism fell into the hands of amateurs. If a Stradivarius violin is put into the hands of an amateur, he will not play it like Paganini.
              In general, it was not about the reel ... I was sitting in the cockpit.
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 2 August 2023 10: 50
                +3
                Quote: Ulan.1812
                No wonder Stalin said, without a theory we die.
                He was the last theoretician who was looking for ways to build and develop socialism.
                Nobody did it after him.

                Roughly speaking, in the 50s and beyond, instead of testing theory with practice and adjusting the theoretical foundations of socialism, based on changes in society and the economy, our leaders decided to adjust practice to frozen theory. The end is a bit predictable...
                1. Per se.
                  Per se. 3 August 2023 20: 04
                  -1
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  our leaders decided to adjust practice to a frozen theory

                  Our leaders have decided that peaceful coexistence with the West is possible. Many recall the Brezhnev era with nostalgia, but it was at this time that our leadership recognized the "conquest" of the moon by the United States. The "loser" in the space race of the USSR was surprisingly favored by the United States, as was Brezhnev personally, who received expensive gifts. The Soyuz-Apollo show became the apotheosis of the surging detente and the fantastic freebie from the West. This, to no small extent, gave rise to the fetish of "victorious capitalism", allowing many to doubt socialism. To this it must be added that we have not created anything in opposition to Hollywood, a very successful project in the USA, which added temptation to the glamor of a beautiful life in capitalism.
                  Until now, the topic of landing Americans on the moon is a muddy topic.
                  Flirting with the antagonist, the mortal enemy of socialism, and ruined the USSR. Gorbachev completed the process. Now the renegades who betrayed the party and the Soviet Union are portraying an extravaganza of success and "multipolarity" as henpecked West, along with all Russian billionaires.
                  Without the revival of the USSR, socialism, it is impossible to create independence, and not to revive the greatness of the country. How it will be is already a separate and big question, but without this, the end of Russia itself is "a little predictable."
          3. Mikhail Krivopalov
            Mikhail Krivopalov 2 August 2023 06: 03
            +2
            A little over 50 years is 70 years? Wow, these are your manipulations with numbers. Capitalism also did not become in a year or two, it took decades and centuries, and the feudal lords regularly strangled it
          4. aglet
            aglet 2 August 2023 09: 00
            +3
            "after all, history has shown how easily he fell apart"
            since the emergence of the state of the people and for the people, the rest of the world waged war against it, both cold, from 1917, and hot, in 1917, 1941-1945. but they were able to win only when they raised traitors in the USSR, such as Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Shevardnadze, Aliyev and other scoundrels, smaller in caliber, larger in number, such as Gaidar, Chubais. the destruction of the USSR was not easy for the West, if it took so much time and effort
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 2 August 2023 10: 18
              0
              Unfortunately, not only the top ones, who had the opportunity to carry out a counter-revolutionary coup, turned out to be traitors, but also millions of “communists” and “Komsomol members” immediately, enthusiastically joining in the huckster games. Human essence, its egocentrism is very difficult to change. It was enough for two generations, on the third they stumbled, as soon as life without constant stress and dreams of a better future for offspring came.
        2. AdAstra
          AdAstra 1 August 2023 10: 01
          +3
          Yes, you are all the same, there is no triune, Russians are Russians who have simply been under the Poles for a long time and therefore "mutated" since you can just as well say that there are no Germans, but there are Saxons, Bavarians, etc. hi
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 1 August 2023 10: 38
            +7
            Quote from AdAstra
            there are no Germans, but there are Saxons, Bavarians, etc.

            And yet there are no French (Gauls) and English (Saxons) ... What is the use of remembering the past millennia, now these nations exist. How to deal with it? Of course, you can say to some nation that it does not exist, but this will not make it disappear, but enemies will increase ...
            hi
            1. AdAstra
              AdAstra 1 August 2023 12: 56
              -2
              So what? You can also call a cardboard house capital, but it will not become one from this. hi
    2. 2112vda
      2112vda 1 August 2023 16: 09
      -13
      Stanislav Govorukhin said about this, a "great criminal revolution" took place in the country. The driving force behind this was the top of the CPSU, merged with crime and shadow business. Hopes that the communists, having come to power, will fix everything are naive and dangerous. Communism is also a Western European project, it was palmed off on us. Everything seemed to start out great, but the party elite quickly degenerated. Here you need to look into the depths of centuries and look for answers there why everything happened this way. Christianity in various forms has existed for a little over 2 thousand years, Vedicism for more than 5 thousand years. As Kozma Prutkov said: "Look at the root." The root of all our troubles is that we have gone down the wrong path of development. People, by the fact of birth, have a different degree of spiritual development and therefore are born and belong to different classes, which the communists abolished by their decree. Scientists, higher clergy, doctors, teachers, engineers, including military engineers, belong to the upper class, varna, caste. The second most important class is the professional military. The bourgeois estate or Vaishnavas are represented by wealthy industrialists, merchants, skilled workers and peasants, the lower class mainly consists of declassed elements, in the historical tradition, all buffoons and other actors have always been included here. Let's see who represents the structure of power in any state, including ours. The state is ruled by the financial elite of the middle class. In the Vedas, each estate is associated with a certain organ of the human body. The upper estate corresponds to the brain, the military correspond to the physical strength of the hands. Financiers and merchants correlate with fat and digestive organs. Now think about what "outstanding mental faculties fat and stomach have." The task of these organs is to eat as much as possible and fill the belly, which we actually now "have the good fortune to see." Until the brains of the people fall into place, we will slowly die out. Further it will be even worse. Showed more information. During the period when snow will lie on our territory, a large mobilization will begin and it will affect many. The information is given figuratively, it is difficult for me to determine the exact time frame. God bless everything goes well.
      1. 2112vda
        2112vda 1 August 2023 18: 43
        -6
        Q.E.D. "Fat and stomachs" are minus, there is nothing to think about.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 2 August 2023 10: 56
        +1
        Quote: 2112vda
        The driving force behind this was the top of the CPSU, merged with crime and shadow business.

        Not only the top. Merging took place at all levels of the party apparatus - just the scale was different.
        And not only the party grew together. Remember the Moscow "case of judges", when in the early 60s it was discovered that court leaders, prosecutors, investigators, police officers, lawyers organized a criminal community that, for bribes, reduced sentences in economic cases to the lowest bar.
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 2 August 2023 17: 58
          0
          Fabricated in the heat of perestroika, a "deed" made up of fingers. There was no such group. On huckster cases, they invariably wrote out a wall, because they were all in especially large ones.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 3 August 2023 11: 37
            0
            Quote: Essex62
            Fabricated in the frenzy of perestroika, a "deed" made up out of thin air. There was no such group.

            Blessed is he who believes in saint of the USSR.
            Moreover, this is not the first purge of judges - the previous time was under Comrade Stalin in the late 40s, when the Prosecutor's Office was covered with a wave of complaints about court decisions.
            I report that recently the USSR Prosecutor's Office has uncovered numerous facts of bribery, abuse, merging with criminal elements and the imposition of unjust sentences and decisions in the judicial bodies of Moscow, Kiev, Krasnodar and Ufa. The investigation established that these crimes were committed in various parts of the judicial system, namely, in the people's courts, the Moscow City Court, the Kiev Regional Court, the Krasnodar Regional Court, the Supreme Court of the RSFSR and, finally, in the Supreme Court of the USSR ...
            Although the investigation into these cases is far from over, 111 people have been arrested in Moscow alone, including: judicial workers - 28, lawyers - 8, legal advisers - 5 and others - 70

            In this case, a group of former members of the Moscow City Court was arrested, namely: Gutorkina, Obukhov, Praushkina and Chursina, who for the past two years was a member of the Supreme Court of the USSR, as well as people's judges Korotkaya, Burmistrova and Aleksandrova. In addition, the former chairman of the Moscow City Court Vasnev was arrested. As established by the investigation, all these persons systematically, over the course of several years, received bribes in court cases, and also committed all kinds of abuses, and were interconnected in their criminal activities.
            (...)
            So, for example, the former commercial director of Mosvinvodtorg, Nikolaev, was released from punishment for a bribe, and the entire composition of the judges who issued the illegal ruling on his release, represented by Chursina, Gutorkina, Praushkina, as well as Secretary Fesenko, went on the same day to visit Nikolaev, in whose apartment a booze was organized.
            With the help of Gutorkina, speculators Simonishvili and Antonevich were released from punishment for a bribe (they were correctly sentenced by the people's court to 5 years in prison). After his release, at the expense of these criminals, a booze was arranged, during which Judge Gutorkina had sexual intercourse with the defendant Simonishvili.
            Characteristically, the listed persons were not only recipients of bribes, but also intermediaries in the transfer of bribes to other judicial workers. So, for example, Gutorkina, who was associated with the former lawyer Senderov, was an intermediary in transferring a bribe in the amount of 15 rubles to them. Chursina and Obukhov. In turn, Chursina was an intermediary in the transfer of bribes to members of the city court Obukhov, Praushkina, as well as people's judges Korotkaya and Vasilyeva. In addition, in the case of her roommate, Lebel Chursina herself acted as a bribe-giver, handing a bribe in the amount of 000 rubles from herself. People's Judge Alexandrova. In 5000, Chursina acted as an intermediary in the transfer of a bribe to Davydova, the former deputy head of the Judiciary Department of the Ministry of Justice of the RSFSR.
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 3 August 2023 19: 13
              -1
              Well, Duc is a lot of effort and there is no need to distribute fakes. To build individual cases of corruption into a system in order to justify the unsightly picture in the bourgeois Russian Federation is a political matter. The information war is being waged not only with the forelocks, but has long been waged for the minds of the politically immature generations of Pepsi. There is no country where such ugly cases have not been and will still be. Alas, a person is not perfect, but as the Weiner character used to say, the rule of law is determined not by the presence ... but by the ability of the authorities to catch them and measure nine grams. Neither under Stalin, nor under the LIB, this could shake the system in any way. The Office of Public Prosecutor of the complaint has dismantled and measured.
  4. evgen1221
    evgen1221 1 August 2023 05: 45
    -7
    Russia, as a country at the junction of three civilizations (Europe, Asia, the Middle East), has rushed about its course throughout history without a clear final idea, all in place and according to the situation. One idea was, of course, leave me alone and stay away from us, but this is more a reaction to violent neighbors than anything else. We have always been shaken from side to side and will continue to shake, geography's however. A very lacking American Russia above all else! With the coordinated work of all the institutions of the country and inoculation from the orphanage to the crematorium.
  5. Unknown
    Unknown 1 August 2023 06: 38
    +33
    How do we vote? Someone has a dacha, someone is making preparations, someone has bought a new car ... Someone understands the whole pointlessness of what is happening. But the fewer voters, the better the system. All that is needed to try to change the situation is to come and vote for the very party that the holders of the current system are so afraid of in the next elections.
    Interest Ask? If we have...
    Political life has been turned into a theater that creates the illusion of competition.
    The entire left-wing electorate is wisely spread out on the shelves - there are few supporters of the market; but those who believe that the communists are "bad", welcome: here are the "fluffy" socialists. But all these are games in the common field with the ruling party.
    How to vote? Then, it is not worth going to the polls at all. Vote, don't vote, you'll still get it ..... it's clear that. Not hunting to participate in clownery. Just don't need to Zyuganov, not the right person to lead something. Hat not for Senka . He missed his chance or did not want to, he was afraid of responsibility in 96. Now it's naturalcomprador .Like there from a famous movie ..."Luxury sucks"
    The current system of governmentcorrupt anyone you want. Slightly became noticeable, influential, immediately lot or position and off we go, money in abundance, and there are all the temptations and permissiveness. Must be, ascetic, idealist to resist it. While such personalities are not visible on the horizon. A bleak future is foreseen. Okay, my generation, even though it lived under Soviet rule, with L.I. Brezhnev, was almost communism. For grandchildren, it is alarming what is coming to them.
    1. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 1 August 2023 08: 08
      +7
      So Zyuganov doesn’t need power even now .. If it were needed, some kind of unifying congress of various communist groups would have been held long ago, if only in order to disengage, so that the people would understand who the Bolsheviks are, who the Mensheviks are. And so there are many “communists” , but there is no party
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 1 August 2023 09: 37
        +13
        Who will allow you to hold such a congress? what In an instant, everyone will sit down for the type of extremism and incitement .. belay
        1. kor1vet1974
          kor1vet1974 1 August 2023 10: 05
          0
          So think about who will give, who will not give ... And before it was impossible to do this? To decide who is hu? Or is it good for everyone? Only to engage in artistic whistling? Yes, spit in the direction of a friend, a friend, who is a Marxist and who is not ..
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 1 August 2023 10: 16
            +5
            For starters, you need to look for like-minded people and try to somehow organize at the grassroots level. In our age of the Internet, this is much easier for us to do than for the old Bolsheviks.
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 1 August 2023 10: 43
              +9
              Quote: paul3390
              need to find like-minded people

              That's just the difficulty...
              The hired worker stubbornly does not want to realize himself as a proletariat, but he believes in fairy tales about the messiah (Stalin, etc.), who will come and restore order ...
              1. Vladimir80
                Vladimir80 1 August 2023 10: 54
                +1
                The wage worker stubbornly refuses to recognize himself as a proletariat
                Have you seen the generation of modern hired professional workers? They are looking for work on Avito, they receive money "by the piece" by transfer, they do not pay taxes or as SZ. The "proletariat" in the absence of factories in the Russian Federation is completely different, "on its own mind" and you cannot lure it with Marx's "capital" ...
                1. paul3390
                  paul3390 1 August 2023 11: 10
                  +2
                  Marx put it on the factory proletariat for an obvious reason - in those conditions only those who constantly communicated in large groups, that is, in factories, could organize themselves. What did the Bolsheviks have there, besides the underground newspaper Iskra? Even the radio - and that was not. But we have powerful modern means of communication in our hands, allowing us to reach out to almost everyone personally!
                  1. Repellent
                    Repellent 1 August 2023 11: 19
                    -8
                    Quote: paul3390
                    But we have powerful modern means of communication in our hands, allowing us to reach out to almost everyone personally!

                    And not just to get through, but, I would say - sometimes specifically to gouge Yes

                    But for now, it should be noted, this is of little help. The hands of users do not grow from there, apparently request laughing
                    1. paul3390
                      paul3390 1 August 2023 12: 21
                      +6
                      But for now, it should be noted, this is of little help.

                      The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step. Who will do all this for us - landing from Jupiter or what?
                  2. Vladimir80
                    Vladimir80 1 August 2023 12: 06
                    -4
                    we have powerful modern means of communication in our hands

                    Will the youth support you? Or will you not tell her about the dictatorship of the proletariat? Is the "guard" class on your side? PS Do not be offended, this is not trolling, just talking about the return of the "power of the soviets" is rather naive. The people have not yet woken up, and you already want to call them to the barricades.
                    1. paul3390
                      paul3390 1 August 2023 12: 24
                      +2
                      I??? God forbid .. What kind of Soviets there can be - a no brainer who will immediately find themselves in them .. As for the barricades - it makes no sense to call them, they themselves form when the time comes. I mean - a revolutionary situation according to the classics. What - while only ripening, the truth - faster and faster. But - you need to prepare for the situation, someone must lead those who climb the barricades when the patience of the people bursts? So we need to make sure that these are communists, and not just another bourgeois rushing to the trough ..
                    2. Doccor18
                      Doccor18 1 August 2023 12: 30
                      +2
                      Quote: Vladimir80
                      Will the youth support you?

                      It's easier to work with young people. You have to work with them. They have not yet acquired loans / mortgages, families and household belongings, their brain is not yet affected, it is only clouded, they are light and mobile, they are looking for ...
                      1. Vladimir80
                        Vladimir80 1 August 2023 12: 56
                        -5
                        It's easier to work with young people. You have to work with them.

                        work better with youth from s.a. (well, it’s just more), although I’m afraid preachers worked with it before you (and it’s not a fact that peaceful Islam)
                  3. Mishka78
                    Mishka78 1 August 2023 14: 50
                    +7
                    Quote: paul3390
                    we have powerful modern means of communication in our hands

                    Yeah. For this, the Yarovaya law was invented. So that not one of the mighty organizers and "knockers" escapes responsibility ..
                2. Doccor18
                  Doccor18 1 August 2023 11: 11
                  +5
                  Quote: Vladimir80
                  They are looking for work on Avito, they receive money "by the piece" by transfer, they do not pay taxes or as SZ. "

                  What's the difference? He has not ceased to be a hired worker, his exploitation is increasing, there are fewer and fewer rights and freedoms - this is the main thing.
                  Quote: Vladimir80
                  The proletariat "in the absence of factories in the Russian Federation is completely different

                  Another time, another proletariat. The main thing is that he is aware of himself. There were not, are not and will not be universal methods for all time, as Lenin once wisely noted...

                  Quote: Vladimir80
                  you can't lure him with Marx's "capital"...

                  It depends on who and how will "lure". If everything is sensible and interesting to tell, showing with examples, I think there will be a lot of people interested ...
                  1. aglet
                    aglet 2 August 2023 09: 41
                    -2
                    "Another time, another proletariat"
                    when three hundred people work with you in the shop together with you, whom you have known for more than one year, it is much easier to organize than if two dozen people work with you on a shift, whom you see for the first and last time in your life. Isn't that why most of the large industrial enterprises collapsed?
                3. Vladimir Lenin
                  Vladimir Lenin 1 August 2023 21: 16
                  -2
                  Quote: Vladimir80
                  Have you seen the generation of modern hired professional workers? They are looking for work on Avito, they receive money "by the piece" by transfer, they do not pay taxes or as SZ. The "proletariat" in the absence of factories in the Russian Federation is completely different, "on its own mind" and you cannot lure it with Marx's "capital" ...

                  For your information, dear, "Office Plankton" is the real "Lumpen" in the classics! While their "Führer ger Anal" is sitting, it's time to start processing and recruiting them into their ranks! Unless, of course, you have a completely sound national idea that can be easily formalized into an ideology!
              2. paul3390
                paul3390 1 August 2023 11: 07
                +11
                One of the most significant achievements of our bourgeoisie is that they made part of the proletariat believe that it is some kind of mythical creative middle class. And if you add on the instilled contempt for working people and the praise of all sorts of hucksters - everything becomes completely sad.

                In a society whose main value is loot and only loot - and the type of heroes are appropriate .. This is what we must fight first of all.
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 1 August 2023 11: 16
          +4
          Quote: paul3390
          Who will allow you to hold such a congress? what In an instant, everyone will sit down for the type of extremism and incitement .. belay

          Oh, okay. No one will sit down anywhere - it's just that everything will end for the left "united opposition" in the same way as for the right.
          Do you remember how many times before the next elections Nemtsov and Yavlinsky kissed each other, swearing to the electorate that they would march in unity against the authorities? And what? And nothing - a month or two, and the "united opposition" of the right returned to its original state of spiders in a jar, along the way dumping such details of the inner workings on the heads of the electorate that they ran away in fear to vote for anyone, but not for these. And it will be the same on the left - every leader there also thinks he is the only one.
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 1 August 2023 11: 35
            +4
            Because the type of left opposition is essentially no left. Besides - remember how the Marxists of the beginning of the last century fought among themselves! Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, Left Socialist-Revolutionaries, Rightist Socialist-Revolutionaries, Maximalist Socialist-Revolutionaries, Bundists, Trotskyists, Stalinists, but there was such a zoo - no match for none. But after all, somehow the revolution was turned over, and one of the two planetary superpowers was beaten off, butting on equal terms with the united West?
            1. Vladimir80
              Vladimir80 1 August 2023 12: 19
              -12
              Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, Left Socialist-Revolutionaries, Rightist Socialist-Revolutionaries, Maximalist Socialist-Revolutionaries, Bundists, Trotskyists, Stalinists, but there was such a zoo - no match for none. But after all, somehow the revolution was pulled off, and one of the two planetary superpowers was recaptured

              You probably were in the party, or a member of the Komsomol ... But nothing that the USSR (the one that everyone remembers) was mainly created by the labor (!) Of the simple Russian people, at the limit of strength, with huge losses, defended in the Great Patriotic War ... And your Lenin, Kamenev and other Sverdlovs have no merit in that! If they had remained in power, they would have drowned the country in the "third international" ... But today there is no longer that people, there is no one to create something ... Modern communists also worship the golden calf, like the capitalists, only they carry other banners ...
              1. paul3390
                paul3390 1 August 2023 13: 47
                +6
                Yes, yes, I remember - we won the Second World War, were the first to fly into space and recaptured the superpower solely in spite of the machinations of the damned commies, and especially the ghoul Koba, who put all his strength on the rack to destroy the Russian people ...

                Well, well .. Aren't you ashamed to cheat so frankly according to liberal training manuals?
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            2. Doccor18
              Doccor18 1 August 2023 12: 23
              +6
              Quote: paul3390
              there was such a zoo - no match for none. But somehow they turned the revolution ....

              And how much time and effort it took for this ... More than twenty years of painstaking work.
              You correctly point to the wide modern methods of communication that the Internet provides, but on the other hand, the capitalists also adopted them, there has never been such a powerful propaganda of a vanity fair, a cult of wealth and depravity, a rejection of any normal human values. And we need to deal with it somehow...
              1. paul3390
                paul3390 1 August 2023 13: 43
                +5
                If the idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbeating in three bellies, crushing everyone around you and adore only yourself becomes dominant, then humanity is doomed. survive. Yes, and to live like this is just boring for a normal person, especially for a Russian. This type of ideology is frankly shallow for us. And our main task is to again offer an alternative, one that will be to the hearts of people .. And this is only socialism.
      2. Doccor18
        Doccor18 1 August 2023 10: 40
        +7
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        so there are a lot of "communists", but there is no party

        On the contrary, there are a million parties, but no communists.
        1. kor1vet1974
          kor1vet1974 1 August 2023 10: 57
          +2
          You can say so, but the essence. Each existing party considers itself more communist than the other, the cat wept there, but every leader aims at Lenins .. Everyone who considered himself a Social Democrat gathered at the II Congress of the RSDLP and the result was divided and not only into Bolsheviks and Mensheviks, the Bundists who arrived, declared that we would not become a member of the all-Russian party, but stand out in our own, Jewish .. And we left the congress. Surprisingly, today's "communists" and the history of the party do not know? smile
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 1 August 2023 11: 21
            +5
            Quote: kor1vet1974
            but every leader aims at Lenins ..

            Comparing yourself with Lenin is very strong and just as hopeless.
            Quote: kor1vet1974
            Surprisingly, today's "communists" and the history of the party do not know?

            History is definitely worth knowing. Blocks of people gathered at the first congresses of the RSDLP, but it was there, at the congresses, that almost all the differences were shown.
            Here, many comrades argue that the situation now resembles that of the beginning of the 1895th century. May be. Only back in 20, Lenin and his "Union of Struggle" already maintained contacts with more than a hundred plants and factories, more than 17 years to XNUMX years ... The work of titanic efforts and phenomenal patience. It's hard to imagine now.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 1 August 2023 11: 42
              +2
              It's hard to imagine now.

              Not at all. Ilyich, apart from leaflets and agitators, did not have any means of communication. Even the radio was missing. Can you imagine - if he had then the Internet, like we have? Moreover, the Bolsheviks were the first, and Marxism itself was unknown to people, just as the methods of struggle were unknown. But we - stand on the shoulders of the titans of the past, we - have their colossal successful experience!
              1. Doccor18
                Doccor18 1 August 2023 12: 11
                +2
                Quote: paul3390
                But we - stand on the shoulders of the titans of the past, we - have their colossal successful experience!

                This is a plus. However, the capitalists also understand this, so they are trying to establish total control over the Internet as well...

                And the "minus" is that people, no matter who says what, are still living well. Therefore, it is too early to expect that they will massively imbue with the ideas of self-sacrifice for the sake of a happy future. Still, a century ago, the bulk had nothing to lose. But the capitalists clearly keep their nose to the wind, they do not allow hunger and total poverty.
                1. paul3390
                  paul3390 1 August 2023 12: 18
                  +4
                  Yes - but there are nuances, as always. Many, very many in our country still remember that all the wealth of noneshnyh bourgeoisie is by no means earned. And they were brazenly stolen from us, moreover, in our memory. As a result, colossal inequality is perceived much, much more painfully than in the long-established West. This is where you need to push.
                2. Repellent
                  Repellent 1 August 2023 12: 41
                  -12
                  Quote: Doccor18
                  А "minus" is that people ... still live well

                  good laughing good

                  Here's everything you need to know about local wrestlers for everything good.
                  1. Doccor18
                    Doccor18 1 August 2023 13: 25
                    +7
                    Quote: Repellent
                    Thats all

                    No, that's all, it's a phrase pulled out of the commentary, which takes on a different meaning outside the text. But this is no longer surprising, because when you really want to write, but there is nothing, then ...
                    1. Repellent
                      Repellent 1 August 2023 14: 17
                      -9
                      Quote: Doccor18
                      that's all, this is a phrase pulled out of the commentary, which takes on a different meaning outside the text

                      Well, why - a different meaning.

                      You so want the people to rush to the barricades, in the name of a brighter future, of course. It’s just a pity that it didn’t hit the horn of the people - they snickered, sir ...

                      What is wrong, explain clearly? wink
                      1. Doccor18
                        Doccor18 1 August 2023 14: 41
                        +6
                        Quote: Repellent
                        You so want the people to rush to the barricades

                        Where is it written by me?
                        Before the barricades, you need at least an elementary understanding of what you want to change. And then
                        Quote: Repellent
                        folk
                        Sometimes he goes to rallies, but if you ask why, most people don’t know, or they will mumble something like “for everything good, against everything bad” or “for fair elections” ...
                      2. Repellent
                        Repellent 1 August 2023 14: 52
                        -8
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        Where is it written by me?

                        Well, you didn't write that, of course. But in the 70s they taught you to read between the lines quite well ... but I just studied at school laughing

                        Quote: Doccor18
                        for all the good, against all the bad

                        This, excuse me, is more about you (about everyone): you can’t do anything, so you smoke here slowly ...

                        But the phrase about "it's a pity that the people live well" is a trump card, thanks, I'll remember Yes lol
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                      4. Doccor18
                        Doccor18 1 August 2023 14: 59
                        +5
                        Quote: Repellent
                        But read between the lines

                        Everyone sees only what they want.


                        Quote: Repellent
                        you can't do anything

                        You know better laughing
                        It's better to think so...
                      5. Repellent
                        Repellent 1 August 2023 16: 32
                        -6
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        It's better to think so...

                        I don't think I know... Yes
                      6. Ivan F
                        Ivan F 1 August 2023 19: 29
                        +1
                        "I don't think" - but in vain, you know very well a useful occupation that distinguishes a person who thinks from a simple animal - who knows.
                      7. Repellent
                        Repellent 1 August 2023 19: 45
                        -6
                        Quote: Ivan F
                        "I don't think" - but in vain, do you really know a useful activity that distinguishes a person who thinks from a simple animal - who knows

                        No. It is knowledge that distinguishes a person from a simple animal, which only thinks he knows tongue laughing
                3. Mishka78
                  Mishka78 1 August 2023 15: 39
                  +7
                  Quote: Doccor18
                  people, no matter what they say, are still living well. Therefore, it is too early to expect that they will massively imbue with the ideas of self-sacrifice for the sake of a happy future. Still, a century ago, the bulk had nothing to lose. But the capitalists clearly keep their nose to the wind, they do not allow hunger and total poverty.

                  You are absolutely right. Not the first time I write on this site, I repeat.
                  This is state policy. And she is quite literate from their point of view. And it has a quite official name - "Moderate Poverty". Those. when people have nothing to lose and they are in poverty, they are ready to destroy the power to make them feel better. When people have a hell of a lot of everything, they begin to think that somewhere the authorities are messing up, it could be better, etc. Type with fat begin to rage.
                  The most comfortable situation for profit holders is the moderate poverty of the population. When it doesn’t swell from hunger yet, but in order to earn money for something besides food, you need to spin. And that means no time for thoughts and no time for riots to him. They are spinning.
            2. Mishka78
              Mishka78 1 August 2023 15: 36
              +6
              Quote: Doccor18
              Only back in 1895, Lenin and his "Union of Struggle" already maintained contacts with more than a hundred plants and factories, more than 20 years to 17 years ... The work of titanic efforts and phenomenal patience.

              And also Ilyich and associates for their idea were ready to go into exile and to prison, and in general to lose their lives. The current party members don’t even feel this close. They are very well and comfortably built into the “vertical”. The Zyuganov family owns half of Tverskaya street retail and has been making wonderful money for them for decades. And he eats and sleeps quite warm and comfortable. What the hell did some revolutions surrender to him? ...
            3. aglet
              aglet 2 August 2023 09: 53
              -1
              "A work of titanic effort and phenomenal patience"
              if you are freed from the worries of obtaining funds for food and subsistence, why not work titanic? all the more, mostly, purely theoretically? after all, even the damned autocracy was not overthrown by the Bolsheviks
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 1 August 2023 12: 26
          +2
          Eat. We just can't figure it out..
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 1 August 2023 14: 18
            -6
            Quote: paul3390
            we can’t finally take over the mind

            As they say - it would be something to take request laughing
        3. ivan2022
          ivan2022 1 August 2023 14: 46
          0
          Quote: Doccor18
          Quote: kor1vet1974
          so there are a lot of "communists", but there is no party

          On the contrary, there are a million parties, but no communists.

          Uh-huh ... Like, now the serfs are dissatisfied with something .... The red master left?
      3. aglet
        aglet 2 August 2023 09: 16
        +1
        "So Zyuganov doesn't need power even now."
        this power is not needed by any political party represented in the Duma. For what? they talk conversations, puff out their cheeks, pretend that they decide something and have authority, but in fact they lick the hand of the authorities that supports them, who is fatter, who is poorer. but they are all tamed and lured, and the authorities are completely calm for their future - these will not encroach! therefore, it is possible to fasten a shooter, and make a cruel and cynical fighter for power out of bulk, and declare Kvachkov an extremist. if there are no real threats, you need to come up with them, because nothing unites the government and the people like a common enemy
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 1 August 2023 10: 20
      +10
      Genosse Zyu and the Communist Party in general are by whom, but they are definitely not communists. The classic bourgeois project of creating a fictitious party to dilute the labor movement and discredit the communist idea.
      1. kor1vet1974
        kor1vet1974 1 August 2023 12: 12
        +4
        The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is by whom, but they are definitely not communists.
        And who is who? That's who is who and should find out the unification congress of all comm. parties, including the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the rest of the left forces, and then who will unite into what ..
        1. aglet
          aglet 2 August 2023 10: 07
          0
          "And who is, who? That's who is who and should find out the unification congress of all comm. parties"
          do they need it? they are well fed laughing. and completely bizzamzdno, that is, for free
      2. ivan2022
        ivan2022 1 August 2023 14: 42
        0
        Quote: paul3390
        Genosse Zyu and the Communist Party in general are by whom, but they are definitely not communists. The classic bourgeois project of creating a fictitious party to dilute the labor movement and discredit the communist idea.

        Problems with ideas and parties? Create the right party .... That will be communist.

        In fact, you are just a serf, dissatisfied with the "red master" ......
        Where do ideas come from?
    3. MBRSS
      MBRSS 1 August 2023 22: 39
      -1
      Quote: Unknown
      Just do not talk about Zyuganov, not the right person to lead something. Hat not for Senka

      Quote: Unknown
      While such personalities are not visible on the horizon

      And what conclusion is implied after these accusatory and decadent conclusions? That's right: "Putin is our president! If not Putin, then who?" Edrossy stand up and applaud vigorously! And people somehow no longer remember that in 2018 it was not Zyuganov who was nominated from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, but Grudinin, who is not even a communist.
      fine work, mr. Unknown. And people support you, judging by the pluses :)
  6. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 1 August 2023 07: 59
    +12
    Everything is so confusing and the mysterious liberals and the mysterious fifth column and the author are for the two-party American system and immediately against it .. I always like it about liberals, it seems that all these years the patriots have been in power, and the liberals have been shitting, then what kind of patriots, who can do nothing against the liberals? And who is the fifth column? Those who adopt anti-people laws in the Duma, to pension reform, asks to be treated with understanding?
    1. Gvardeetz77
      Gvardeetz77 1 August 2023 09: 21
      +1
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      Everything is so confusing and the mysterious liberals and the mysterious fifth column and the author are for the two-party American system and immediately against it .. I always like it about liberals, it seems that all these years the patriots have been in power, and the liberals have been shitting, then what kind of patriots, who can do nothing against the liberals? And who is the fifth column? Those who adopt anti-people laws in the Duma, to pension reform, asks to be treated with understanding?

      In our country, you won’t find liberals (especially in power) during the day with fire, they are somehow virtual, but nevertheless, for the last 10-12 years, all failures and problems have been hung on them with enviable constancy, whole treatises have been published about their harmfulness and perniciousness for everything alive, but who are they? The vertical of power, authoritarianism, the punishment of dissent (in the sense that everything is fine with us, there are no problems, we only overtake and overtake the whole world in everything, including in the world that has no analogues), the "liberals" are to blame ...
      In general, the article is similar to senile grumbling-grunting, which from time immemorial comes down to one thing "now in our time everything was different, much better, and you ....".
      1. kor1vet1974
        kor1vet1974 1 August 2023 10: 08
        +2
        The liberals and the fifth column are like that gopher that is not visible, but it is there .. And the article, the author, got lost in three pines and can’t get out either ..
      2. aglet
        aglet 2 August 2023 10: 12
        -1
        "grunting, which from time immemorial comes down to one "now in our time"
        You won’t believe it, but in our time everything was much better laughing . it’s just that you are today, you don’t even know about it, busy counting galoshes with the brand “made in ussa”
  7. Quetzalcoatl
    Quetzalcoatl 1 August 2023 08: 28
    +12
    The article is a little chaotic, but the important points are reflected. The country is in a semi-conscious state, capital is being exported on an unrealistic scale, the economic steps of the government and the Central Bank have literally drained the state of blood, the people are surviving as best they can. Betrayal on the face and there is no other way to call it! Problems no longer accumulate, but go like an avalanche. If the oligarchic clan and its Kremlin inmates think once again to paint over the problems, it will not work.
    [/ quote] And everything, as before, can take several days and happen no later than 2025 - 40 years of the Russian people wandering through the deserts of liberalism. [quote]

    I also think that the deadline is 2025 and no later. The situation is developing extremely rapidly, everything can happen much earlier, given all the actions / inaction of the authorities and the future of the NWO.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 1 August 2023 09: 43
      +10
      Actually - if we draw historical analogies, the current Russian Federation is in a state somewhere from about 1905 to 1914. The revolutionary situation is maturing by leaps and bounds. And even the king - very similar to the then. True - there is no Bolshevik party, but - even then it almost did not exist. At the time of February 1917, there were 20 thousand of all the Bolsheviks in Rus', and few people knew about them at all. True - these were titans, iron-clad in their rightness and for the sake of it - ready for anything. Are there any now? Time will show. For some reason it seems to me that there are. Simply because otherwise - Khan to us. Bourgeois will ruin Russia...
      1. Vladimir80
        Vladimir80 1 August 2023 09: 59
        -1
        It is very logical, but there are also differences - the Bolsheviks took power from the interim government, which was essentially a bunch of talkers and crap-crats - i.e. if history repeats itself, should the "temporaries" come first?
        1. kor1vet1974
          kor1vet1974 1 August 2023 10: 11
          +8
          should the "temporaries" come first?
          And temporary workers are already in power, for 33 years only temporary workers can do this with the country ..
          1. Vladimir80
            Vladimir80 1 August 2023 10: 17
            -2
            "temporaries"?
            And temporary workers are already in power, for 33 years
            well, don’t tell me, for temporary workers they hold up well, and maybe they’ll sit for another 6 years ...
            1. kor1vet1974
              kor1vet1974 1 August 2023 10: 42
              +4
              So there are few real violent ones, so there are no leaders .. Temporary workers, these are not who came for a short time, these are those who live one day, stole, drank .. romance, patriotism .. But they live for a long time ...
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 1 August 2023 10: 12
          +2
          Duc and we have nonecha - exactly the same talkers and balabols, in general - they are not capable of anything serious.
      2. Quetzalcoatl
        Quetzalcoatl 1 August 2023 10: 34
        0
        I agree with the comment. Only here are the parallels in time, yet I think the situation is more similar to 1915-1917.
    2. aglet
      aglet 2 August 2023 10: 15
      -1
      "I also think that the deadline is 2025 and no later"
      as if by this time ballots for the presidential elections in the Russian Federation will not be printed in the Federal Reserve laughing
  8. Million
    Million 1 August 2023 08: 35
    +3
    Very good and relevant article.
    Thanks to the author.
  9. Beaver
    Beaver 1 August 2023 08: 45
    -13
    Control question to the author: if he has less than 4 children, then whose machinations are these? Let's find and punish this man severely.
    1. Alexander Odintsov
      1 August 2023 09: 21
      +11
      Three:) Against all odds. Just after shock therapy
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 1 August 2023 11: 25
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        Three:) Against all odds

        That's all.
        Not thanks, but in spite of...
      2. Beaver
        Beaver 2 August 2023 08: 33
        0
        So it's not enough. Who interfered with four or more? Tajiks live worse, but breed better
  10. Alexander Odintsov
    1 August 2023 09: 32
    +14
    Sobyanin: about 30 thousand Muscovites took part in the NWO. According to the mayor, 20 residents of the capital went to the zone of a special military operation for conscription as part of partial mobilization, and another 000 signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense. What is it for? How many people live in Moscow? I was talking to a friend of mine this weekend. He lives in a small town in the Kaluga region. He says that among his friends there are dead. And all this is visible - the funeral is taking place, the people are gathering. He says that all this is causing great discontent among those he knows. It's not like that in Moscow. Everything is "diluted".
  11. Dedok
    Dedok 1 August 2023 09: 34
    -7
    the author writes:

    During the period from 1990 to 2010, the population of the Russian Federation decreased by 6,1 million people. For comparison: during the Great Patriotic War - by 13,4 million people.

    those. the losses of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War amounted to 13,5 million ???
    Where do these numbers come from - from the Internet?
    and what should be considered losses, according to the author - "200"? or also "300"???
    the screen of the monitor is no different from the telly ...
    1. Alexander Odintsov
      1 August 2023 11: 01
      +9
      It's not a loss. This is a reduction in the population, Official data
    2. Doccor18
      Doccor18 1 August 2023 11: 30
      +7
      Quote: Dedok
      . the losses of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War amounted to 13,5 million ???

      During the four years of the war, people in the USSR were also born. At the end of the war, taking into account the loss (dead) and profit (born), it turned out: minus 13,5 million people.
      hi
    3. aglet
      aglet 2 August 2023 10: 21
      -1
      "the screen of the monitor is no different from the telly ..."
      The monitor screen allows you to check information from multiple sources. if you don't know or don't know...
  12. paul3390
    paul3390 1 August 2023 09: 35
    +13
    All that is needed to try to change the situation is to come and vote for the very party that the holders of the current system are so afraid of in the next elections.

    The classics clearly said - bourgeois elections are just a fiction. It is fundamentally impossible for forces that are not pleasing to big capital to win on them. And really - what, the characters who stole our Motherland just like that will take and give everything stolen, just because the majority of the type voted against them ?? Schaz!! To think so is a fierce elfism. Without a fierce fight, they will not give anything to anyone. Any results that are objectionable to them will be tritely rigged without the slightest doubt, especially in our realities. Too serious money is at stake, but what's the money - their very life. For the Soviet government-severely ask for all the created damnation.. Who will voluntarily go to such a thing?
    1. AdAstra
      AdAstra 1 August 2023 10: 07
      +8
      Therefore, no one will draw 146 and drive everyone from the budget to the elections so that the figure looks plausible, and for everything else there will be "cardinal's guardsmen" and the same "Chechens", because as one person said, he is a "faithful pikhotin" of a specific person, and not Russia . hi
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 1 August 2023 10: 14
        +7
        The tsar also had Cossacks, and gendarmes, and guards, and even the Wild Division. How much did it help him?
        hi
        1. AdAstra
          AdAstra 1 August 2023 10: 21
          +9
          It did not help, I agree, but we have become liquid compared to our ancestors. hi
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 1 August 2023 10: 35
            0
            Well - so the degree of liquidity is only envy from us, isn't it?
    2. Alexander Odintsov
      1 August 2023 14: 06
      0
      All this is true. Everyone thinks so and doesn’t go. Somehow, around 18-00, he came to the polling station to vote. It’s true, it’s just elections to the Moscow Duma. There was a magazine where residents were noted in apartments. The first thing that caught my eye was how few signatures there were. So go. 10 million will come, believe me, there will be an effect
      1. Vladimir80
        Vladimir80 1 August 2023 14: 30
        0
        10 million will come, believe me, there will be an effect

        electronic elections already, thanks to the "coronavirus" and digitalizers, now go / don't go - there will be those who need it
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 1 August 2023 17: 20
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        So go. 10 million will come, believe me, there will be an effect

        Which? How about going to rallies in support of the wagon? Author don't make me laugh. You are the same defender of the system as those propagandists and liberals who are now in power or close to power. You are essentially satisfied with capitalism and you do not want to fundamentally change anything. And so you will not do anything with demographics. Absolutely nothing. And the fact that you kept silent that the demographic trends are the same all over the world, including China and the United States, this is understandable. Otherwise, it would have been impossible to get away from the fact that caritalism is the cause of bad demography, and liberals and other bad people in power leading and supporting such a rotten economic policy are only a consequence.
      3. aglet
        aglet 2 August 2023 10: 26
        -1
        "So go. 10 million will come, believe me, there will be an effect"
        as long as the threshold for viability of elections at elections of all levels is at least 70% of voters, naturally, they will not have any influence on anything. and now at least two people will come, and that’s it, the elections have taken place
  13. AdAstra
    AdAstra 1 August 2023 09: 56
    +5
    It is written essentially correctly, but rather chaotically - communists, Orthodox, tsars, "Chechen friends" who are smart at the expense of others .... But it does not say who is in power more than any general secretary or tsar, only about Yeltsin, and after him, as if no one - a void in which the liberals freely and carelessly multiplied.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 1 August 2023 10: 23
      +6
      What to say about him? As for me, it has been clear for a long time that this is pure zitz-chairman, who decides absolutely nothing and to whom no one pays attention.
      1. AdAstra
        AdAstra 1 August 2023 12: 51
        +2
        If this is a zits-chairman, then why these groans about the liberals and the 5th column, including in this article? How is it that we have in one book changed on a stump, who is our bearer of power? Then you need to take the "broom" in your hands and put things in order, but here we return to the fact that the liquids have become. hi
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 1 August 2023 13: 35
          +3
          Once again - if according to the classics, then the revolutionary situation in the country has not yet matured. Although - through the efforts of our leaders, it ripens like grapes in the south of France .. Our business is to prepare for the moment when this does happen. So that, according to its results, we won, and not the next bourgeoisie.
  14. ee2100
    ee2100 1 August 2023 10: 07
    +9
    I would call the article "Thinking with a broken trough."
    Everything the author wrote is true. And no one argues with this, the eternal question remains, "What to do?"
    To which there is no answer. There are suggestions, recommendations and that's it.
    Russia has long been integrated into the world economy and, of course, the same laws apply in it as in the entire "civilized" world. The common name for these laws is divide and conquer!
    The word "democracy" still appears somewhere, but its meaning has changed exactly the opposite.
    The people hope for a firm and just hand. How and when will Russia come to this KhZ.
    And one more problem of Russia, which the author did not touch.
    Society, as at the beginning of the XNUMXth century, is divided into two groups (workers and peasants and the so-called intelligentsia), who do not understand each other, and do not really communicate with each other.
    Although the goals of these groups are similar.
    In general, we talked again.
    1. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 1 August 2023 10: 24
      +3
      Society, as in the beginning of the XNUMXth century, is divided into two groups
      Not into groups, into classes, the thing is different, some classes do not consider themselves exploited classes, and moreover, classes do not consider themselves the classes that they are in essence .. Hence, false goals and objectives, delusions.
      1. ee2100
        ee2100 1 August 2023 17: 07
        +2
        That's why groups, not classes.
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  15. Non-fighter
    Non-fighter 1 August 2023 10: 19
    +7
    During the Soviet era, too, not everything was good, the goods of group "B", that is, for the population, were "in the pen." The same fartsovschiki did not appear out of nowhere.
    As for work .. it was work. The question is its effectiveness. In "Znamya" it seems the story "Profession-Foreigner" was printed. About our illegal immigrant "there." Worked under the "roof" of a businessman. After returning, he traveled around the country with medicines. So, it directly writes there that the same ZIL needs to be rebuilt, because they don’t work in normal countries. Let's not forget about M. Thatcher. What figures did she call about our population? And a full quote please.
    The main problem of our state is the same farce, petty speculators in power. Generic signs are obvious: no production, because we do not know how. Contempt for the man of labor, the fact that at least something creates, a contemptuous "scoop". Admiration for the West, and finally, an inescapable desire to deceive "not one's own", although one can also deceive one's own.
    As for the 90s, this is a normal, full-fledged civil war. Both in terms of losses among people, and in terms of industrial production. I have not seen figures anywhere, but the closest analogue is the Civil War, 1917-1922.
    As for the current state, our motto is "Don't Nightmare Business." Even an average businessman can swim on _THIS STATE_ from the highest bell tower, it is he who is in charge here. About those who are richer, I generally keep quiet.
    In general, the whole article, and even my comment, is another cry in the desert. Steam release only.
    1. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 1 August 2023 10: 48
      +3
      Steam release only.
      The Internet is the release of steam, but there is also a desire to ban it smile
    2. aglet
      aglet 2 August 2023 10: 57
      -1
      "As for the work .. there was work. The question is its effectiveness"
      Don't you think that the so-called "inefficient" economy of the USSR was conceived in such a way that all did the population of the USSR have a job, regardless of the level of education and qualifications? and where necessary - a military commissar, space, heavy industry, etc., were we really ahead of the rest?
  16. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 1 August 2023 10: 20
    +7
    In 2021, the numbers were simply catastrophic: the population decline was 1 thousand people, in 042 it is no better - by 2022 thousand people. And although there is a slowdown in this trend year on year, in 555 we lost 2023 people in the first quarter, and in terms of the year, the numbers are not the best.

    In 2021, migrants were not allowed in because of the covid, and this is the loss of the population. And in 2022, for sure, the newly "acquired" residents were also counted in the newly acquired territories, such as Kherson.
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  19. Kuziming
    Kuziming 1 August 2023 11: 01
    -2
    Show us such a person who lives according to the commandments, does not commit adultery, loves his enemies, and turns his left cheek if he is slapped on the right. And let this person be prosperous, financially secure, respected, and with a good citation index on the Internet. Let him also be sure to have a scientific degree of Doctor of Sciences, or an honorary member of the Academy. He must also be competent in ethnic occult practices, and have a confirmed initiation from Buddhist monks. And we will definitely sign up for a seminar on the Tao of Sales with him.

    Show us a prophet and miracle worker, and let him come into the hospital corridors, which are full of suffering and paralyzed ones, and let him lift them up with a single wave of his hand. And may he deliver the weak in spirit from addiction to alcohol and drugs, return fallen women to the path of virtue, and speak in other tongues. And he will have to be able to hold himself in front of television cameras, be tolerant of sexual minorities, politically correct, and be liked by the public. And we will praise him, and we will bow before him, and we will definitely invite him to our Sunday talk show.

    Give us a man who laid down his life for his friends, a hereditary military man who served in hot spots, who came out alive from hundreds of hopeless situations. He must be impeccably honest, not plunder military property, not loot, and not oppress the weak. He must be tall, with a manly face, and impeccable manners. He must also be able to win the sympathy of the electorate, promise the poor - wealth, the scum - respect, and the old - youth. And then we will certainly include him as the second number in the electoral list from our party.
    1. Alexander Odintsov
      1 August 2023 14: 09
      +1
      I assure you such a sea. The most important thing that is not written about is that he must have a blessing from above.
    2. aglet
      aglet 2 August 2023 11: 01
      -1
      "Show us a man who lives according to the commandments, does not commit adultery, loves his enemies, and turns his left cheek if he is slapped on the right."
      I even know his last name - Putin. he often turns his cheeks, and he has no enemies, only partners and colleagues laughing
  20. Alexander Odintsov
    1 August 2023 11: 10
    +6
    We have a young talented economist Vladislav Zhukovsky. The other day I cited analytics on reducing the number of pensioners. (I didn’t have time to add it, although I also thought about this topic.) So: “The pension genocide in Russia has already claimed the lives of 2 million 800 people.” As he calculated according to official data: over the past four years, from 2019 to 2022, while working this pension reform, pension robbery, we have lost almost 2 million 800 thousand people. No Comment
    1. Non-fighter
      Non-fighter 1 August 2023 11: 36
      +7
      For pensions. Let me remind you that we have a solidarity system, that is, those who are currently working pay pensioners. As you know, there is little money, beggarly pensions. All the talk about this is reminiscent of the game "do not say the word NO", in this case they simply keep silent about our current beggarly salaries (60% of the beggars, the author, this is your figure). The solution to the problem is to raise wages, to bring them out of the shadows. But at the same time, business income will suffer, and this is UNACCEPTABLE.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 1 August 2023 11: 48
        +2
        Quote: Not the fighter
        raising wages, bring it "out of the shadows."

        Like incompatible things.
        1. Non-fighter
          Non-fighter 1 August 2023 13: 17
          +2
          I once worked in the Moscow office of a large oligarchic company. The salary was good and "white" 100%. Cause? "With such control as we have, garlic will be cheaper" from those rumors that went around the office. The rumors turned out to be true.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 1 August 2023 14: 44
            +7
            Quote: Not the fighter
            worked in the Moscow office of a large oligarchic company. The salary was good and "white" 100%.

            And did the grassroots employees of this company outside Moscow and not in the office have a good and white salary? I used to work in a similar one. Under the contract, for the minimum wage, without sick leave and holidays. But Moscow bars came on boomers and geldings. They certainly had a white and good salary, because the enterprise was a society of the blind.
          2. aglet
            aglet 2 August 2023 11: 38
            +2
            "The salary was good and "white" 100%. The reason?"
            I, at one time, worked in Gazprom, well, in one that is public property. So, according to my observations, only people work in Gazprom, up to the level of the head of the field. all who are above are just officials who have high salaries and benefits, like employees of Gazprom. but to the difficulties and deprivations of real workers, they have the same attitude as the leaders of the society of the blind. sometimes, some of them, and infrequently, go on excursions to fields, wells and main gas pipelines - commissions are called. that's all their attitude to Gazprom. and now such a boy of 25 years old comes from Moscow as part of a commission, and tells me how I work incorrectly, not according to the instructions drawn up by another boy of the same kind, who did not even trample a pair of boots on the GRS or GKS. and everything would be fine, I would look at him like a clown, and forget in an hour. but he also writes a paper based on the results of the commission, in which he reflects my wrong actions, and then they reduce my coefficient, deprive me of my bonus and lower my salary, because real life does not correlate at all with their instructions. and so my meager content further reduces. and the boy, according to the results, receives an award for identifying the pest in my face. a simple example is the use of oils, greases and hydraulic fluids to service taps, gate valves and valves. but according to the instructions, since these substances are flammable, it is necessary to build such buildings for their storage - real fortresses, which were not provided for by the construction project of the gas distribution station, that is, there were just small warehouses, without any frills. but an instruction was drawn up, according to which specially equipped places for the storage of these extremely dangerous substances on the territory of the State Registration Service were provided. naturally, they were not. and where to get them, if the GRS was built 20 years ago, and the instructions were sucked out of your finger yesterday? and they began to punish the chiefs of crafts and masters of the GRS, and ordinary hard workers got it if he carried out the planned one (with lubrication, including), during the work of the commission. it got ridiculous - they buried cans of grease and barrels of oils outside the territory of the GRS. utter idiocy. but the fines have been reduced. and of these commissioners he didn’t ask, how do you carry it out if you don’t have lubricants. they don’t need it - there are no lubricants, there are no special rooms for their storage. instruction triumphs!!! True, I do not know how it is now with the position of being retired already. maybe they already canceled it so as not to violate reporting laughing
            that's the whole office in Moscow, with white salaries
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 1 August 2023 13: 32
        +9
        current workers pay pensioners

        Do not forget that we do not have several million new-born citizens, who have not paid a penny in their lives to the relevant social funds, but who receive all the due payments. What do you think - at whose expense the banquet?
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 1 August 2023 14: 42
        +12
        Quote: Not the fighter
        For pensions. Let me remind you that we have a solidarity system, that is, those who are currently working pay pensioners.

        The solidarity system is such a system when personal income tax is charged from millionaires in the amount of 45%, and not 15%.
        In 2022, more than 220 billion dollars were withdrawn from Russia ... Where are the taxes on the export of capital?
        Why the hell do resources in the country belong to thieves and work for them?
        There was no such brazen robbery of the country in the USSR.
        They blamed everything on the period of EBN rule, but what do they say?

        Both Putin and his United Russia are direct followers of Yeltsin. Until they devour the country, they will not go anywhere ...
  21. nikolaevskiy78
    nikolaevskiy78 1 August 2023 12: 10
    +4
    "Everything is for you, everything is for you - choose who you want to be deceived by ..." (from the movie "The Idea")
  22. KSVK
    KSVK 1 August 2023 13: 15
    +1
    Quote from AdAstra
    It did not help, I agree, but we have become liquid compared to our ancestors. hi

    So, where do the current oprichniki get their l / s from, from Jupiter or what? They are also not like the royal Cossacks. So there is a chance. bully
  23. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 1 August 2023 14: 27
    +3
    Many letters, but the essence is again the same - again, the mythologized Americans and the completely mythical "liberals" are to blame for everything.

    This is a typical trap of our perception of things - we circle around it like a midge circles around a bright lamp.
    The root of our problem is a dense population, surprisingly calmly perceiving cruelty, violence and deceit, a society that hates and despise itself from one group to another, but at the same time is incredibly greedy for flattery and demonstrative antagonism with neighboring peoples (and perfectly controlled through this).
    In general, we are remarkably manageable, we don’t ask questions, we don’t draw conclusions - they just turn on another hardcore at the right time and we act as if yesterday didn’t exist at all. Not all, no. But it is precisely that the majority is so viscous that it carries everything else with it, contributing to the suppression of this.

    We ourselves are to blame for what we have come to. And we did not draw conclusions from this - not a single one.
  24. Kuziming
    Kuziming 1 August 2023 14: 50
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Odintsov
    I assure you such a sea. The most important thing that is not written about is that he must have a blessing from above.

    It was written twenty years ago. The thought is, we do have such people. But they are given the opportunity either to participate in a clown attraction, or to be on the sidelines, to sell a person, to be a wedding general.

    To the question "what to do?".
    It seems to me that here, too, it is necessary to divide into a basis and a superstructure.

    Only in the basis it is necessary to determine the moral values ​​that are universal for any religion or system.

    If everything is in order with the basic values, the state/country will live and develop.

    If the basic values ​​are perverted, then any system will be corrupted, and the elite will be corrupted.

    Yours!
  25. Sergey Muravyov
    Sergey Muravyov 1 August 2023 15: 52
    0
    I read up to the mention of the "Russian philosopher Solzhenitsyn" and gave up ...
    1. Alexander Odintsov
      1 August 2023 22: 40
      0
      where was it already? That's where the fun begins :)
  26. new.ad
    new.ad 1 August 2023 15: 56
    -5
    Fuck around Jerusalem so that all these manipulations with the population stop!
  27. runway-1
    runway-1 1 August 2023 17: 45
    +3
    The population of the RSFSR in 1992 was 148,51 million people, as of January 01.01.2023, 146,44, the population of the Russian Federation was 31 million people. In total, for 2,067 years of reforms, the country's population has not grown, even despite the annexation of Crimea, the total decline is XNUMX million people.
    If we take into account that the statistics are influenced by a large number of new citizens of the Russian Federation of various nationalities from the former Soviet republics, then the picture will be even "more interesting" ...
  28. Materialist
    Materialist 1 August 2023 18: 30
    +1
    What a lengthy and meaningless article, carries some kind of philistine "leftism"
    Any bourgeois state decomposes the society subordinate to it, and sooner or later this society must take control first, due to the formation of a layer of theoreticians capable of bringing clarity to what is happening to the masses, none of this will happen until that theoretical base is created, based on the experience of the Soviet era and until its essence is clear, in particular, to the Russian masses
    So far, the latter are wandering in the darkness of their own feelings, conjectures and fantasies, changing depending on the direct and indirect influence of the material and intellectual impoverishment of society.
    1. akendrama
      akendrama 1 August 2023 22: 59
      -2
      Did you understand what you wrote? Russia has been wandering in the dark for 30 years already, in the kitchen and on the couch everyone knows what is needed, but from the podium there is only blablabla, without specifics
      1. Materialist
        Materialist 1 August 2023 23: 23
        +1
        I must clarify, the entire working class, including the Russian one, is wandering in the dark, and this fact itself suggests that among the masses there is no understanding of the science of the development of human society and thinking
        The only thing that remains for modern inhabitants is to elevate their own existence to the rank of an end in itself for the sake of emotions, or else - an elementary desire to survive in poverty
  29. dummy
    dummy 1 August 2023 18: 59
    -8
    Everything is clear, we again have to pay someone and repent. Hatred for the Motherland begins, among other things, because of such articles. Criticize - offer, offer - act. There is nothing to make people brains.
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  31. BorzRio
    BorzRio 1 August 2023 19: 19
    +2
    The author has written a lot and on the case, that's just slick. Where is the most important thing - who is in charge of all this and is responsible for everything? Doesn't he have a first and last name? No position? Was the author afraid to write about him openly?
  32. Evgeny_Sviridenko
    Evgeny_Sviridenko 1 August 2023 19: 39
    +3
    The sane have long understood much of what is happening. The only counteraction to the reality implanted by the beneficiaries is the creation of horizontal connections, and groups of like-minded people based on their visions of reality and the future. As they say, create your own matrix, if you do not want to be a slave to someone else. In the meantime, the bulk of people easily squander and give away their main resources - time and attention - to other people's "uncles" and "aunts", getting involved mentally and emotionally in the "games" and "performances" imposed by them. Much is taken away imperceptibly, bit by bit. There they pinched off, there they pinched off. Laws, regulations. In other matters, "sheep" as a resource have been grown since childhood.
    1. Knell wardenheart
      Knell wardenheart 1 August 2023 20: 11
      0
      The only counteraction to the reality implanted by the beneficiaries is the creation of horizontal connections, and groups of like-minded people based on their visions of reality and the future

      You are now talking about a solution through the creation of political parties and the struggle (including a coalition) for the power of the dem. by OR about the formation of intra-society aesthetic groups and movements, united by a certain aesthetics and internal rules that allow the formation of a "world within the world"?
  33. gabs
    gabs 1 August 2023 19: 43
    +2
    Zyuganov will not decide anything, he is from their clip and plays his role. If elections could change anything, they would be banned.
    1. Knell wardenheart
      Knell wardenheart 1 August 2023 20: 15
      +3
      ZYu could decide something in the interval from 1996 to 2000, but judging by the picture observed from the outside, he is, so to speak, a person of an academic mindset. That is, not a practitioner. It could be said even more deliciously.. in short, activity closed on itself in a frozen moment - that's all of it. He is not a fighter.
      1. ivan2022
        ivan2022 6 August 2023 02: 20
        -1
        Zyuganov is just a practical person who perfectly understands what happens to theorists and romantics in politics.

        Let us recall October 1993, when the population watched with interest on TV how the defenders of the White House died .... people's deputies of the All-Russian Congress.

        And now the deputies are watching with the same interest how the children of these observers are dying.

        They are just practitioners .... And they are doing the right thing. Until the apple is ripe, you can’t pick it .... and if the apple rots on the branch without ripening, it means he’s out of luck .... But Zyuganov has nothing to do with it, he’s for you ...... to die I didn't sign and I don't have to. laughing
  34. MBRSS
    MBRSS 1 August 2023 19: 57
    +8
    The article is correct, then for some reason I am sure that the majority of patriots from this forum will again vote for Putin in 2024! With the argument "and for whom else?" Not far from the Ukrainian zombie-bipatriots, unfortunately.
    1. Knell wardenheart
      Knell wardenheart 1 August 2023 20: 32
      +4
      The 2024 elections (if they take place) run the risk of being another repetition of all elections since the beginning of the 2000s, and the most boring. the electorate into the void, the SRs will again expose Mironov (whose face I have never seen on TV for 2 years), also an old and low-popular character.
      Well, who will build intrigue? No dem no power at all. Both Sobchak and Prokhorov have already been used, Yavlinsky is already old and lost all his eyes, even Bogdanov has already worn out so much that his political "spoiler projects" will not create any intrigue.
      Well, who, really, who will collect points? Titov? Prilepin? Before the events of this summer, I had a hypothesis that Prigogine was being prepared for the role of holder of the TRP place, well, as such a savory spoiler "up to 20%". Now that possibility is being brushed aside.
      Nav is sitting, Strelkov is sitting, and, apparently, in a year his near-political undertaking would not have given rise to a real party anyway.

      So - who will be there besides GDP? Dummies accustomed to nod since 2012 or even earlier?
      In such scenarios, I personally am not interested in elections at all - "elections" imply a CHOICE from.
      By analogy - you go to the store and want to buy bread there, but instead there are Chinese children's toys, intimate cosmetics, near-religious literature and bicycle parts. You do not need any of this, even if you sit for half an hour and think "what for?". The main thing is that there is NO bread there. And since it is not there - what is the point of the campaign? Buy something? This is shopaholism. You have already gone to this store before and you know that there is no bread there. Well, since he is not there - why go there for him?
      1. MBRSS
        MBRSS 1 August 2023 22: 08
        +3
        Knell wardenheart something you messed up. In 2018, from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and non-communist patriots (who are "angry") there was a single candidate - Grudinin, not a deep pensioner, but a very successful businessman. SR did not nominate Mironov, but entered into a coalition with EP, for Putin. The media began to persecute Grudinin, he was poured with shit from every iron. However, many of those I interviewed voted for him (including me). Officially, Putin received 75%, but in reality, I think, about 55-60%. 20% was taken from Grudinin. In general, if the people continue to think "if not Putin, then who?" - it means that our people are not smarter than the VNA. At least he deserved what we get after another 6 years of Putin. Ignoring elections is the same as agreeing with the government's policy.
        1. Knell wardenheart
          Knell wardenheart 1 August 2023 23: 06
          0
          I myself voted for Grudinin - and where is the development of this project? Not only is the peasant still being pressed, and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, all these discrediting campaigns did not in the least interfere with deepening symbiotic ties with the authorities, but in the end, all this absolutely played into the hands of EdRu, "making" the election campaign of 2018 from potentially none, at least a little "some".
          In a sense, Pavel Nikolaevich was sacrificed to maintain the illusion of democracy, for which he was paid with dirt and losses.
          Ignoring is ignoring - no need to look for a double bottom in this, dear. You can express your disagreement in a lot of different ways, it is not at all necessary even to do it the way "mother said."
          Although for lovers of empty rituals - why not, calming one's own conscience in meaningless manipulations is also a suitable topic.
          1. ivan2022
            ivan2022 6 August 2023 10: 35
            -1
            Quote: Knell Wardenheart
            I myself voted for Grudinin - and where is the development of this project? Not only are the peasants still being pressed, and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, all these discrediting campaigns did not in the least interfere with deepening symbiotic ties with the authorities, but in the end, all this absolutely played into the hands of EdRu, having "done" it.

            How well did you understand that! I wonder why the "stupid" Grudinin did not understand and continues to cooperate with Zyu? You would have explained Grudinin and taught him the mind-reason .... laughing
        2. Alexey Lantukh
          Alexey Lantukh 2 August 2023 15: 31
          0
          So I came to the site. I almost always go to the polls. For whom to vote? There are no such parties. All parties are some kind of setup. Stealthily took the ballots and left. That's all democracy.
      2. Alexander Odintsov
        1 August 2023 22: 44
        0
        They achieve this :) We must go. You are absolutely wrong. The elections will be such that it will not seem enough. Everything goes to this
        1. Knell wardenheart
          Knell wardenheart 1 August 2023 23: 15
          -1
          Did you see it in the crystal ball?
          I painted a picture that they would be objectively none. Our entire public policy since 1996 has not only been self-preserving, it has also practically degenerated. All the major opposition "parliamentary" parties have slid into an ugly gerontocracy, the new parties do not impress with either ideas, leaders or activities.
          The elections will be such that it will not seem enough

          Unless they somehow shake it up with pocus tricks. But in principle, all of them have already been used earlier - at the Duma or presidential elections, since 2004. In general, everything has already been - both loud spoilers and castling.
          We have a very stubborn people, we stupidly do not have new players capable of reaching the second round, all the opposition is gaining a maximum of 30% with us. They tell you (not for the tenth time in a year even) in VTsIOM that the GDP rating is 77% and higher? So, he will be "so", if the elections happen.

          In general, I even admit that for the reasons I have indicated, the elections may not happen on time at all - they can be moved under the pretext of emergency circumstances. For half a year, for example.
          It's funny in 2024 to wait for some kind of struggle .. somehow naive, or something ..
      3. akendrama
        akendrama 1 August 2023 22: 54
        +1
        The purpose of the elections of this government is to drag the people to the polls, and then gray schemes. Direct replacement for ballots, etc. I know 200%
        1. Knell wardenheart
          Knell wardenheart 1 August 2023 23: 17
          +2
          Well, I personally observed this replacement in 2012 when I was an election observer. When in the ballot box 1350 ballots are conditionally counted per day, but in fact there are 1800, neatly folded in half and all for "EdRo". An interesting story then came out, one zhyrukha along the career line exploded like a rocket after her.
        2. ivan2022
          ivan2022 6 August 2023 10: 41
          -1
          Quote: akendram
          The purpose of the elections of this government is to drag the people to the polls, and then gray schemes. Direct replacement for ballots, etc. I know 200%

          Or maybe it is necessary to fight against crooks without leaving the polling stations, but by attracting more public observers to them?

          Otherwise, it turns out that you need to fight the crooks - - giving them more freedom .... Original! To what only the mind of our compatriots will not reach!

          The purpose of the crooks has always been to draw the people away from the polling stations and fill out the ballots in a certain way for those who stayed at home.

          Our society has long been famous throughout the world for the fact that its troubles are not from thieves, swindlers and traitors....

          And from the polling stations, "... isms ....", Karl Marx and too highly developed medicine, which does not allow the weak to die and strong and healthy to take their place ....

          Unique community!! laughing
    2. Alexey Lantukh
      Alexey Lantukh 2 August 2023 15: 37
      -3
      Putin is not so bad. And the majority voted for him and will vote. But, of course, not 66-70%. The lickers overdid it. However, with a long stay in power, the power itself loses its flexibility and turns into the CPSU-2, with all its vices.
      1. ivan2022
        ivan2022 6 August 2023 10: 56
        -1
        Quote: Alexey Lantukh
        Putin is not so bad. And the majority voted for him.

        Another of Shakespeare's heroes, a doctor, said that the patient's urine may not be very bad itself, but the patient is very bad ........

        And Putin himself is good and Prigogine is good and many others, but what does this have to do with the historical perspectives of the Russian people? For some reason, they are bogus... hi
  35. acetophenone
    acetophenone 1 August 2023 20: 36
    0
    And our fifth column will hopelessly break on the head and paws of the Russian bear.
    What head? What paws? If this war ends in defeat (and what will be a defeat is a separate conversation), so, I think that Russia will continue to live in pieces. Fall apart.
    1. Alexander Odintsov
      1 August 2023 22: 45
      0
      This is a phrase for a reason. You need to be able to understand it. The rebus is not really complicated.
  36. astra wild2
    astra wild2 1 August 2023 20: 54
    0
    There are no works for the author: he has not heard of the classics of Marxism and Vladimir Ilyich, but he knows: two whole tsars
    1. Alexander Odintsov
      1 August 2023 22: 46
      +2
      I studied at the institute, read works and took notes. Now no one knows him. We know, believe me.
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    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 2 August 2023 20: 28
      0
      The fact is that a significant part of the population census participants refused to indicate their nationality and, unfortunately, among such people there were a lot of Russians, mostly young people. You look how many Mordovians were 20-30 years ago? And how many according to the last census. Impossible, inexplicable contraction.
  38. ZnachWest
    ZnachWest 1 August 2023 22: 32
    0
    The last paragraph is too pathetic; it must be borne in mind that the countries of managers, couriers and security guards are not satisfied with the revolution.
  39. akendrama
    akendrama 1 August 2023 22: 49
    +2
    At the end of the article there is an optimistic paragraph, for which no prerequisites are visible at all. And so, bravo to the author, in such a small article everything is so correctly decomposed. Please write more.
  40. Il'nur
    Il'nur 2 August 2023 00: 18
    -1
    and the war with his phantom goes on without ceasing. Repressions, sharashkas, galoshes, works by Solzhenitsyn.

    But how could it be otherwise, if a liberal is at the head of it, and he leads this war, talking about galoshes, erecting a monument to the One who lied ...
  41. Mister who
    Mister who 2 August 2023 00: 35
    0
    Russia will be saved only by AI, and will allow you to make a breakthrough, there is no other way. At the same time, the commodity-money system will have to change. This system will kill capitalism all over the world! Since man is a consumer animal in the first place, and if he is asked not to work, he will cling to this idea. Just as the Union collapsed (the human factor, whoever says what and blames whom), by the same method and only, capitalism as an idea can be killed. A simple example of why you need to work, AI will do everything for you, or open your own business and competition - how the meaning disappears by itself, the capitalist system dies. In another country, people are saying that people don’t work there, they get Money every month, for investing or working on creating AI, and they don’t work, they order goods on the net. The most powerful ideology, will work on anyone. Hooked? According to Freud: there has been talk for some time now, a country owning AI will dominate the planet and this is equated almost to the creation of nuclear weapons at one time, from time to time conversations on this topic flicker on the box briefly and by chance, in the USA there have long been discussions on this topic.
  42. Sergey_Kokorin
    Sergey_Kokorin 2 August 2023 01: 00
    0
    Read "Rereading the Bible" on this topic. This one was written in May 2019, but not only has it not lost its relevance, but it has become even more acute.
    https://dzen.ru/media/id/63a4d2bf5ddc2d01fcb7efbe/perechityvaia-bibliiu-63a4d5370d8f4149b54af70a
  43. egorMTG
    egorMTG 2 August 2023 02: 48
    +1
    - The article cannot leave indifferent people who are worried about their Motherland, for its future ... This is evidenced by the comments of the participants in the discussion.

    - And yet, at the present time, in the current conditions - only the vast majority of the active adequate population of our country is able to make the necessary changes in the structure of social relations and ties. And this will cause changes in all spheres of the life order of the State. It will also change the image of the country in the world.

    - Question - How?
  44. egorMTG
    egorMTG 2 August 2023 03: 21
    0
    - The vast majority of adequate people include all segments of the population, regardless of social status and income level. This mass of people needs "Justice -?" and Stability (confidence in the future). How to achieve this? :
  45. Mikhail Krivopalov
    Mikhail Krivopalov 2 August 2023 05: 55
    0
    In the 1990s, the so-called "communists" had a majority in the Duma, and Mr. Zu even won the presidential election in 1996 ... and what did it affect, even if they could not even impeach EBN?
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 2 August 2023 20: 33
      0
      To be fair, the Communists had a relative, not an absolute, majority. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation was the largest faction in the State Duma, but even together with its subsidiary group "People's Power" it accounted for less than 50% of the total number of deputies in the lower house. And in order to carry out impeachment, a qualified majority is generally required.
  46. Glagol1
    Glagol1 2 August 2023 09: 59
    0
    Our demographic hole has several reasons at the same time:
    1. The cycle after the Second World War, it is gradually blurring, but in general it exists. Until the end of the XNUMXst century, we will have it.
    2. Now the crisis of the 90s is affecting - people were simply afraid to give birth, poverty and complete uncertainty ahead.
    3. Covid in 2020-2021 claimed several hundred thousand lives
    4. NWO - in 2022 at least 30 thousand dead and several hundred thousand left.
    5. Again, uncertainty about the future - this will affect already in 2023.
    Nevertheless, the worst forecasts that the OECD gave us in 2000 did not happen. They set the bar for us by 2020 at a maximum of 140 million.
    The error is big. This is partly due to the fact that in the prosperous 2000-2020 people gave birth more actively, and the authorities for once gave birth to mother capital, which is very appropriate for many poor people. And the OECD could not predict a prosperous 20 years, nor a useful thing with mother capital, so they were mistaken by seven million. Migrants were also not included. OECD forecasts can be treated as custom guessing on coffee grounds. To raise the birth rate, you need to find a way to peace, this is the most important thing.
  47. vvn_vl
    vvn_vl 2 August 2023 10: 18
    +2
    while the deputies will be stuffed into the Duma on rolls, where these individuals will decide their selfish interests and worry about foreign countries, nothing good awaits us ... and all sorts of competitions held by Kiriens, Matvienkos and others - what do they lead to? to the fact that these characters are being replaced by even worse ones, although it would seem much worse?? and numerous councils, societies, where former multi-party leaders are in charge ??? well, and appointments to key positions of devotees, and not professional specialists?
  48. sagitovich
    sagitovich 2 August 2023 10: 35
    -5
    I punished the children. Do not have children, slaves for the pleasures of the oligarchy!
    Let there be no grandchildren, all the same, we will all leave soon.
    1. Alexander Odintsov
      2 August 2023 12: 03
      +2
      What are you saying? It is necessary to give birth out of spite - the more the better. You can't say that! It is said to be fruitful and multiply, so it should be so. Man was created for love and people unite in families only to have children - and better than their parents! Everything will change soon. Russia will be reborn, the West will go down. So go for it - you won't regret it!
  49. Reklastik
    Reklastik 2 August 2023 11: 48
    +1
    Since 1991, the country has been ruled by the right.
    - what other right ones, in what place are they right??? Not a candle to God, not a poker to hell ....
    1. Alexander Odintsov
      2 August 2023 12: 05
      0
      Dear Roman, what kind of ideology do we have - liberal? This is called the right direction in politics. In all textbooks
  50. Griffith
    Griffith 2 August 2023 12: 03
    -4
    Strange people, like the author. Let's take the closest analogue of society from nature: ants and bees. There, in the "society" one queen is programmed, 15-20% of drones and soldiers and 80% of hard workers who work day and night. In human society, with the growth of prosperity, you will find few people who agree to work as a hard worker. Growing income and growing appetite. Here the naive think that revolutions are arranged by the working people. No. The basis of any revolution is the overproduction of elites. Insatiable thirst for wealth and power. That is why the USSR project was turned off. The entire population is educated, only the top of the CPSU has power. How to realize your ambitions? Neither the army, nor the special services, nor the republican authorities, nor the people, no one came to the defense of the USSR. And everyone perceived the GKChP as a parody. And now they are starting to tell us fairy tales about the USSR. If everything was so good, why didn’t anyone take up arms and go to defend the achievements of the USSR? One hypocrisy.