New field uniform for Russian military personnel

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In various media, there were reports of a new form, which will begin to provide the personnel of the army. Criticism of clothing, which is now supplied to the military, proved to be effective. And it doesn’t matter who developed the old models, it’s important that the uniforms found the reasons why soldiers and officers, soldiers, in the first place, got sick and ill.

Russian Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu approved new designs, pointing out a number of improvements. Now field uniforms pass the final tests in the army. The terms and control standards for the purchase of new sets of uniforms (in 2013 year - about 70 thousands) were determined.

In the new form they again return to the old arrangement of shoulder straps - on the shoulders, although this is not the most important, but still, when one of them is on the stomach (for delicacy it was written - on the chest), it is not very clear and aesthetic. The set of field uniforms will include three pairs of shoes, among which will even be winter boots with high berets designed for temperatures up to 40 degrees below zero.

Basic field outfit kits

New field uniform for Russian military personnel





It is stated, and I really want to believe in it, the completion of the form was carried out carefully and thoroughly. Depending on the activity of the soldier, it will change. For field classes in training centers and at training grounds, one set, for class lessons - another. Separate sets are provided taking into account weather conditions and type of activity (specialty): the functionality of the various elements of uniforms is also different.

As an example, a uniform kit for special forces, costing 160 - 190 thousand rubles, consists of 68 items. For soldiers and officers of motorized rifle subunits, the equipment is less and its cost is planned for about 45 thousand rubles. Some elements of uniforms have seven layers. Fabrics used for sewing field uniforms should prevent the influence of temperature fluctuations on the serviceman and play a protective role.

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  1. Diesel
    +3
    December 19 2012
    I really hope that the new form will be warm, the number of deaths from hypothermia and illness simply causes horror ..
    1. Odessa
      +14
      December 19 2012
      This is an interesting sample to match a bear, but the dust bag is not bad. I am skeptical of faux fur, especially in military uniform, except that as an internal liner, it also has a replacement, a modern synthetic winterizer, it keeps heat.
      1. +5
        December 19 2012
        This is an interesting sample, but the dust bag is not bad.

        This is put on under the uniform, a good thing, very warm, I went on such a hunt, I did not calculate the temperature and almost cooked in it alive hi It's made of fleece love
        match the bear

        So the Americans think so that our bears ride bicycles all around and drink vodka wink
        1. Odessa
          +5
          December 19 2012
          Joker,
          So the Americans think so that our bears ride bicycles all around and drink vodka

          Some people think the same way in the East, and I tell them that we eat sauerkraut and pickled organics, and on holidays we play balalaika. In principle, it’s normal that the Russians associate with them with bears, and the east with camels wassat
          1. +2
            December 19 2012
            Quote: Odessa
            Some people think the same way in the East, and I tell them that we eat sauerkraut and pickled organics, and on holidays we play balalaika. In principle, it’s normal that the Russians associate with them with bears, and the east with camels





          2. Oleg Rosskiyy
            0
            December 20 2012
            Quote: Odessa
            Russians associate with bears in them, and the east with camels

            More likely with donkeys.
      2. Yankuz
        -2
        December 19 2012
        Of course, Mexican jerboa here is too much! It is better to replace the fur in this model with a knitted part as in a sweater or jumper.
      3. 0
        December 19 2012
        Quote: Odessa
        . I am skeptical about faux fur, especially on a military uniform, except as an internal liner, but it also has a replacement, a modern synthetic winterizer that retains heat.

        It is necessary to compare combustibility and toxicity, but it keeps heat ...
      4. phantom359
        -1
        December 19 2012
        Odessa,
        Well done sun. Where does such knowledge come from in military uniform?
      5. ughhh
        +1
        December 20 2012
        I am skeptical about faux fur

        In vain, by the way, now such artificial materials make animals envy.
      6. ZiLiBoba
        0
        December 20 2012
        Fleece is very good, I know from experience. It keeps the temperature perfectly, the main thing is to know when and what tasks you need to wear it for. I, for example, always take it with me to the mountains, only we have to take it for our money in special stores. that added it to the outfit.
    2. +6
      December 19 2012
      Lord, when will a normal helmet appear in our troops ?! Nothing is possible to do in this basin! And then a new flrm and country helmet! I hate this bucket!

      From the photo about the form it’s hard to say, I’ll support, artificial fur is somehow strange. Moreover, there is something to replace. But as long as you do not understand, you will not understand.

      In general, this is an eternal topic in our country with a form ... Although it looks nice.
      1. +5
        December 19 2012
        Quote: klimpopov
        Lord, when will a normal helmet appear in our troops ?!

        Hi Klim, yes this is an old sample, I don’t know who and why put this pot on. See all the photos in a hurry
        1. +1
          December 19 2012
          Greetings! Yes, it seems to me that this night pot will not go anywhere, there seems to be a sphere and something else, but in the dream this scrap metal still remained, but for show-offs, could they put on decent clothes?

          In my opinion, this is "I blinded him from what was" - there it is, in the old way, it is not clear, there is a feeling that it was being altered on the knees.
          Bring back the gerbil! You can modify it!
          1. +2
            December 19 2012
            Quote: klimpopov
            Yes it seems to me that this night pot is not going anywhere

            Yes, all the warehouses are crammed with them, new helmets arrive, but they see immediately go to the warehouse.
            1. +3
              December 19 2012
              It is necessary to destroy these helmets with old ammunition as dangerous.
              1. +3
                December 19 2012
                Hello everyone, I’m glad that we finally paid attention to this issue, but it’s not enough to constantly monitor the allocation of funds so that the money goes where it is needed, then the military acceptance should be INDEPENDENT, without acquaintances and referring marriage in production and curvature of the workers. The commission should come to the warehouse before sending, take 1-10 sets and check the quality on the spot or nearby, while the commission should be paid extra for the marriage, and the director of the company should be fined, he must answer with his head and choose the right staff. And the manufacturer must also randomly find the marriage send a new kit for free, there should be a guarantee !!!
                1. 0
                  December 19 2012
                  Well, so as not to put pressure on the manufacturer to allocate additional funds with excellent quality products for development, this can be considered a bonus! And of course, control the salaries of all directors and chiefs!
                  1. +3
                    December 19 2012
                    I came across a couple of times with acceptance (of the form itself), and the most interesting thing is that on paper everything is almost as you wrote, but ... again, the technology is not respected, that is, samples according to the rules, but no one can give such quality in mass there are issues of equipment and personnel, in general, everything is like everywhere else. There are samples and they are acceptable, but you know for the most part, if you bring the quality level to that state, for example, as in Izhmash, the form will be great, but for now we only dream.

                    Faced with the old work, it was a long time, and so the sleeve from the pea jacket could be torn off without straining at all - this is a fact even somewhere in the papers attested, we just went to the workshop at the sewing factory and checked a couple of sets right before packing and not the ones that brought to the receiver, but then it didn’t affect ... Because the party of workers without a salary will be rejected, the plan is frustrated, etc., etc. I hope this is not so now.
                2. phantom359
                  0
                  December 19 2012
                  esso, Yes, old man, like that.
            2. rolik
              0
              December 19 2012
              To Kyrgyzstan at a low speed.
      2. +2
        December 19 2012
        and another question is how they will shoot in mittens request . we remember three-fingered mittens were soldier
        1. rolik
          +1
          December 19 2012
          The index and thumb were separated from the rest.
      3. Skiff
        +1
        December 19 2012
        Well, this is not a helmet, this is a pan, well, kulesh to bungle the soup on the mosles there, just right on the fire. wassat
      4. ZiLiBoba
        0
        December 20 2012
        Quote: klimpopov
        And then a new flrm and country helmet! I hate this bucket!

        I agree completely, they could replace the bucket with Kevlar
    3. beech
      0
      December 19 2012
      I tried, too, was not bad in the samples, but made it worse than the Chinese in quality !!! God be with them with samples, I hope that the troops are in a high-quality uniform, and not the one that falls apart after the first wash !!
  2. david210512
    +3
    December 19 2012
    I only have a question how they will shoot from such mittens?
    1. Odessa
      +4
      December 19 2012
      david210512,
      I only have a question how they will shoot from such mittens?

      Gloves are provided, not mittens.
      1. +2
        December 19 2012
        Quote: Odessa
        Gloves are provided, not mittens.

        And in the photo what? Option for Strobat
        1. Odessa
          +2
          December 19 2012
          Alexander Romanov,
          And in the photo what? Option for Strobat

          No, but I answered the question
          david210512 Today, 12:00
          I only have a question how they will shoot from such mittens?


          Or do you want to say that you can collect and disassemble Ak in mittens? laughing
          1. +2
            December 19 2012
            Quote: Odessa
            Or do you want to say that you can collect and disassemble Ak in mittens?

            Did I say that? I didn’t even write like that, in the old ones there is a finger for shooting.
          2. +4
            December 19 2012
            these are warm gauntlets, used to be fur. in the sleeves there are buttons to them and they are fastened on the loop. and the fighter should be in gloves - when you do not need to shoot or do something by sticking the pens in the gloves. they are like in the kinder - not on the rubber band.
          3. 0
            December 19 2012
            and if a sudden battle or attack on the object will change clothes?
            1. Dimani
              +1
              December 19 2012
              and if a sudden battle or attack on the object will change clothes?


              gloves are initially put on hands, and if they attack, you throw off the gloves and go into battle ...
            2. +1
              December 19 2012
              Quote: kalbofos
              and if a sudden battle or attack on the object will change clothes?

              and if you need to throw a grenade?
        2. 0
          December 19 2012
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And in the photo what? Option for Strobat

          You can’t do anything with such mittens in the construction battalion, three dozen bricks and half an hour with a crowbar, that's all, sushi oars. laughing
      2. ZiLiBoba
        0
        December 20 2012
        Quote: Odessa
        Gloves are provided, not mittens.

        In fact, gloves, mittens, and three-sticks have not gone away.
    2. Dimani
      +1
      December 19 2012
      gloves included ...
      1. +2
        December 19 2012
        These are gloves to knead concrete at the dachas of the command, and not for firing.
        1. in reserve
          +6
          December 19 2012
          But not a bad version of gloves, mittens.
          1. rolik
            0
            December 19 2012
            Interestingly, they hold weapons. That which lies on the bend of the left elbow is normal. But the right hand should be closer to the butt and the finger should lie next to the trigger guard. And from such a grab a weapon will be transferred into a combat situation for a very long time.
          2. ZiLiBoba
            +1
            December 20 2012
            Quote: in stock
            But not a bad version of gloves, mittens.

            Bad, and very much. When the new ones are still normal, and after a week or two, Velcro no longer holds. First I took the same for myself, again for the money, but then .........
          3. 0
            December 20 2012
            Quote: in stock
            But not a bad version of gloves, mittens.


            I do not agree. I have similar ones. Maximum to -10 tolerant. Blown through slots, Velcro is not reliable.
        2. biglow
          0
          December 19 2012
          yllo,
          now for this Tajiks use
  3. Lech e-mine
    0
    December 19 2012
    well, YUDASHKIN chasing on his stomach and Serdyukov's chest - a great target for the SNIPER
    1. Odessa
      +3
      December 19 2012
      Leha e-mine,
      well, YUDASHKIN chasing on his stomach and Serdyukov's chest - a great target for the SNIPER

      Yudashkin on the fifth point, and the hippo Taburetkin on the forehead.
      1. +2
        December 19 2012
        Quote: Odessa
        Yudashkin to the fifth point,

        Slightly correct, In the Fifth point, it will be more correct wink
      2. bask
        +5
        December 19 2012
        Quote: Odessa
        Yudashkin on the fifth point, and the hippo Taburetkin on the forehead.

        I agree ... The main thing is that the new uniform should be warm and comfortable to wear ... Like a former hunter and fisherman. Finding himself in extreme situations. When the engine crashed, he walked 70 km along the steppe in the dark: - 30 and the wind. The Finnish Arctic form was saved .. Sweaty shoes are weightless near the jacket. It makes you sweat. If you don’t, it’s all in the new Russian uniform .. Then honor and praise to the developers ... As soon as possible, this uniform must be replaced - an epidemic from Yudashkin ... How many pneumonia in the troops every winter ....
  4. ka5280
    +1
    December 19 2012
    Kamufljazh zachetnij!
  5. 0
    December 19 2012
    the form is good, only gloves are incomprehensible, how to press the trigger in such ones if there will be a fight in the cold? I need to sew another finger, but how my son has similar mittens in the kindergarten .......... everything else is fine, I liked it, the waterproof fabric and thermal insulation are good, the berets are comfortable
    1. 0
      December 19 2012
      in such mittens, you can drag something to do various park chores and so on, there are gloves for shooting.

      Py Sy, I would have taken fishing mittens to test ...
    2. Mikado
      +6
      December 19 2012
      Under these "gloves" you put on ordinary normal woolen gloves (it turns out very warm), and during the battle you take "gloves" and fight only in woolen gloves, and these are hanging nearby, shot and put on.
      1. 0
        December 19 2012
        Quote: Mikado
        you fight only in woolen ones, and these hang nearby, shoot yourself and put them on.


        Back in the trench, a locker, a rain umbrella ... laughing
        You take off one, put on the other, and in battle every second is life or death.
  6. 0
    December 19 2012
    What is "Flektarn" reminds.
    So in the previous article they wrote about another camouflage ... Still, did you stop at this?
  7. 0
    December 19 2012
    Equax, I do not recognize you in makeup.
    Here it is the legacy of the bloody Serdyukov.
  8. 0
    December 19 2012
    Interesting ... Appearance, of course, does not inspire ... There are some kind of hoodies, it will turn up without a belt ... Well, I hope the quality is better than the current form ...
    1. +1
      December 19 2012
      Servants will appreciate. And in appearance do not understand anything. But the target from the stinker from the chest was removed and it pleases.
  9. Lech e-mine
    +5
    December 19 2012
    Shoes bother me - are they able to keep warm at 35-40 degrees below zero.
    I live in SIBERIA and better than ordinary felt boots have not yet seen.
    1. +2
      December 19 2012
      yes capable.
      I use these problems myself
      1. servant
        0
        December 19 2012
        I agree there are no problems in a 20 degree frost and a woolen sock! There is no fur in them! Where does the heat come from?
        1. +1
          December 19 2012
          http://tropoved.ru/utepliteli.htm
          study
        2. +1
          December 19 2012
          I have been using "thermoses" since the beginning of the 90s, there are no cold problems
    2. 0
      December 20 2012
      Clarified hemmed boots!
  10. Roomata
    +2
    December 19 2012
    the color, as always, is green (a mushroom picker of some kind) where fire resistance elasticity protection from everything that is possible, honey-constructiveness, etc.
    another zalizon


    news of the development of NGOs special materials where are they
    1. servant
      0
      December 19 2012
      The problem is that a uniform is adopted without running-in in the troops, without testing (without which in Soviet times the uniform was not accepted), without taking into account the opinions of those who fight in it (the rear generals do not count). The role is currently played by the name of the fashion designer and external aesthetics and probably * backwardness *.
    2. Roomata
      +1
      December 19 2012
      http://www.npo-sm.ru/
  11. +1
    December 19 2012
    Actually, nothing really should work out. It looks good. I don’t understand one thing - why for cold pants on the straps? Why not use jumpsuit? It will not blow out with frosty air ...
    Just do not need about the natural needs, etc. With minus 30 - 40 this problem is secondary ... there are options ....
    1. +1
      December 19 2012
      Overalls when you burn to throw off problem ... Or when it got wet ... And so I cut off the straps and ...
  12. Mikado
    +3
    December 19 2012
    Something I did not quite understand, in the first samples in the photo, where "activity" is shown, there is a shoulder strap in the old way, on the stomach. It was also upset that we were shown only a piece with a pocket from an ordinary summer hbshka, I would like a complete photo of it. And again, why did they begin to mold colored emblems on a vole, what kind of fashion is this? If they say that they licked it off from the USA, then I wonder how the belt will now be located. And yet, oooh, the tandem of socks-ankle boots confuses me, personally, my socks were slipped off during the drill just like that.
    1. 0
      December 19 2012
      Somehow they go, not the first year already ...
    2. 0
      December 19 2012
      Almost the entire period in socks passed, it seemed to be normal, and on combatant, and on the run, and in hills, even in training.
  13. servant
    +2
    December 19 2012
    The new minister is a new form, when will it all end? Who will be responsible for the wasted money on the Yudashkin uniform? Where is the guarantee that this ala of the Ministry of Emergencies in a couple of years (with the advent of the new minister) will not be bad and cold? And yet, what terms of socks will set for a new form? If in Soviet times the term of socks is hb the fighters had six months, now it’s a year, in backward subjects, a shift in the direction of increase, too.
    1. 0
      December 20 2012
      Why alaMES? said that this form has been developed and tested since 2011, that is, with the same Serdyukov
  14. +1
    December 19 2012
    Everything is clear Russia is a country of severe cold weather! But there are regions that are very hot, where is the summer form? Desert?
  15. +1
    December 19 2012
    Not enough pockets on clothes. Cute shoes ...
  16. pidluts
    +2
    December 19 2012
    Forgive me, but why do the Winter uniforms "khaki" and not white ???? who knows???? soldier
    1. servant
      +1
      December 19 2012
      Yes, not for war, but for parades! So that dirt can be seen less.
      1. +6
        December 19 2012
        I remembered:

        Little camel asks mom:
        “Mom, why the hell are we talking about that?”
        - This is so that in the desert the body temperature remains constant.
        - And the hump?
        - To drink less in the desert.
        - And such hoofs on a fig?
        - So that in the desert feet in the sand are not stuck.
        - Yes? And on a fig to us all these bells and whistles in a zoo ?! !!!
      2. 0
        December 19 2012
        Quote: Servant
        So that dirt can be seen less
        wassat - that's for sure!!!
    2. +2
      December 19 2012
      But seriously, the situation is cold, frost, and there is no snow. What to do?
      Walking in summer green so as not to stand out in winter white? Or put on a green winter one, and when the snow falls, then WHITE MASKHALAT on top of it? soldier
      1. ka5280
        0
        December 20 2012
        Ja v Latvijskoj armii sluzhil, u nas forma ot US army bila. Imenno tak i delali, vipal sneg-odeli belij mask halat.
        1. 0
          December 20 2012
          Quote: ka5280
          Ja v Latvijskoj armii sluzhil, u nas forma ot US army bila.

          There is an army in Latvia laughing If you were dressed in American uniform there, then this is not an army, let alone Latvian. From whom can such an army protect?
    3. 0
      December 19 2012
      And so that potential opponents do not steal the secret X-form, or so that the Chinese copy smile
    4. 0
      December 19 2012
      As for the colors, I agree - you won't "pretend" to be a Christmas tree in such a dress in winter laughing And it's high time to switch to a regional camouflage color scheme, plus an increase in the number of colors in the color scheme. Or again "we paint the leaves on the trees - spring has come" bully
      1. +1
        December 19 2012
        And if the troops have to be transferred to another region, is the country big?
    5. 0
      December 19 2012
      what to wash less
    6. +2
      December 19 2012
      Maskhalats exist for snow.
      In the Kuban now at night until - 12, and there is no snow. "It would be good" if the form would look white against the background of yellow-green bushes and lawns.
      1. -2
        December 20 2012
        Well, like last year’s snow didn’t come down laughing
    7. 0
      December 20 2012
      In the Arctic it is possible! But go into the mixed forest with evergreen trees and you will understand!
  17. Oscar1
    0
    December 19 2012
    but what about the straps at the top of all this beauty, because our unit commanders can, as always, show voluntaristic inclinations and put on a belt with a badge and ruin everything again!
    1. 0
      December 19 2012
      A belt is needed, but it’s obviously not leather with an iron badge ... Maybe they’ll come up with something ...
      1. Felix200970
        0
        December 20 2012
        The waist belt is not absolutely necessary. This is an item of equipment. Now it is more convenient to wear it either on the unloading vest or on body armor. But if by supply standards he will remain laughing I accept any bet that he will be fooled by a soldier. From the inconvenience that I noticed: Straps or suspenders on trousers. Since the "tunic" is worn over the top, when bending down, the linen will lift up and the lower back will be bare. If harnesses for a trouser belt are provided, then the problem disappears. Warm underwear with a zipper instead of golf. The winter mittens just smiled. The balaclava does not have a mouth cut. With high activity in the declared temperature conditions, it becomes difficult to give, it is impossible to spit + constant moisture in the nose (the possibility of frostbite increases). And in the balaclava itself it will be cold at -20. It is advisable to wear a fez from the top.
  18. +1
    December 19 2012
    With our diversity of climatic zones, not enough options. Confuses and the uniformity of the color scheme of camouflage. There are no equipment options, just like the same body armor or unloading vest with pouches will be with all this. Mittens, as noted above, are apparently not intended for shooting at all. Perhaps I am a conservative, but those who did not serve in the army laugh at the footcloths, their legs are always dry with them, the time for footcloths will replace more than one pack of socks.
    1. ka5280
      0
      December 20 2012
      V natovskih armija portjanok net, zato botinki ochen gramotnie, legkie, teplie, noga v nih ne preet. A v holod na hbeshnij nosok sherstjanoj nadeval. Warm and dry.
      1. +1
        December 20 2012
        Quote: ka5280
        A v holod na hbeshnij nosok sherstjanoj nadeval. Teplo i suho.
        All this is wonderful, in the cold and we put insoles in boots and put on socks under the footcloths, one did not interfere with the other.
    2. 0
      December 20 2012
      In order for the feet to become dry, you need to remove your boot and ventilate the footcloth for 5 minutes! The footcloth dries in one fell swoop, but the smell reigning in the night barracks will not be forgotten by anyone who sniffed once! And how many people suffered from fungus and hyperhydrolysis (excessive sweating of the legs) after the army ? Officers wearing chrome boots wore socks in everyday activities.
  19. 0
    December 19 2012
    Not bad at first glance, the form. Even shoulder straps returned to their former place. Let's see how it will be tested in the troops.
  20. maxondorkin
    0
    December 19 2012
    I hope that the soldiers will also be given this uniform next year, otherwise it is customary for us to change the officers first and then it comes to the soldiers, sizes 56/6 or 60 \ 5 who they sew such sizes on, it’s not clear. and an average soldier wears 48 \ 4 or 54 \ 5. Wearing a uniform of size 60 \ 6 he will frighten the enemy with one look.
  21. +1
    December 19 2012
    An interesting fighter in a hat with a visor thrown back ...
    1. 0
      December 19 2012
      Also drew attention to this ...
      1. +1
        December 19 2012
        And I noticed that this visor with Velcro sticks, i.e. after one season they fall off to hell, could not come up with another mount.
        1. 0
          December 19 2012
          And in the raised position, the cockade closes. God knows what the problem is, but still ...
    2. 0
      December 19 2012
      It seems to him about 12 years old .... wassat
  22. servant
    0
    December 19 2012
    And what hang pouches? The belt is primarily for this! There are no pockets for shops either! Unloading vests, as I understand it, are not provided!
    1. 0
      December 19 2012
      Hook on the old-fashioned belt with an iron badge ... laughing
    2. predator.3
      +2
      December 19 2012
      Better "unloading" than this belt, recently I saw a group of fighters, the officer looks fine without a belt, and the soldiers are terrified, well, just like garden scarecrows, pea jackets are dirty and not in size, and everything sticks out from the belt.
  23. +3
    December 19 2012
    again the winter form of green colors :)
    1. go
      0
      December 20 2012
      Toge zametil - ya poka pri minus 25 -30 nichego zelenogo ne videl, ona dolgna byt 'seraya!
  24. +1
    December 19 2012
    In principle, I like it, if only Bolloev and his managers would not be screwed up. And he bought the berets not long ago in the bazaar, one to one as in the picture, 1200 r
  25. +2
    December 19 2012
    Hmm, they didn't lie about the buttonholes. Fleece is strange. And the ideology (layering) is correct, now it would only be to hammer into the brain that there are still different sets for the training ground and the guard (meaning activity). Although rice. 4 minus 20-35 h. activity, somehow flimsy, it looks like a fighter is just very thin :). If they launch it now, by the summer, how the statistics will be from the doctors, it will become clear. And the colors are probably such that they would not be confused with overseas comrades. :( What scares you is - "Sergei Shoigu approved new samples, pointing out a number of improvements", the laurels of Khrushchev and Chuchkhe haunt him.
  26. +1
    December 19 2012
    They couldn’t even copy normally ....
  27. +1
    December 19 2012
    I don’t understand if the soldiers are so awkward, the roofing felts are such a shape, but they all look like kikimory swamps, and the color is matched, there’s no aesthetics at all, and this figure is dubious how not to twist, again there is no beauty, but it is dubious whether it masks or not. Again they solve the temperature problem due to more socks and not materials, they will again walk like stiff bears.
    1. 0
      December 19 2012
      Both that, another, the last photo, the third from the left, a chevron or whatever it is called now (from the right), well it is not very folding.
  28. +2
    December 19 2012
    Clothes up to -40? RAVE!!! the other day, near Krasnoyarsk, it was crushing under fifty dollars. Boots with high ankle boots ???? Yes, that's anything you like, but not "ankle boots" !!!! Another cut of the defense order. :(
    1. servant
      +3
      December 19 2012
      The Germans at 41 in Moscow in battles already fought ... They probably forgot what the Siberians fought against them .... Maybe the uniform was ugly, but just for our frosts.
      1. biglow
        0
        December 19 2012
        servant,
        what shoes? look chronicle the Germans were in boots,
        1. 0
          December 20 2012
          Until the end of 1943.
    2. 0
      December 19 2012
      Grandfather from the 42nd to the 44th walked almost all in bast shoes. Yes, there were boots with windings, in the 44th they gave out boots ... but some were on the defensive in a swamp in the Far East, and you bothered to dry the bots.
  29. +3
    December 19 2012
    Was it impossible to wear uniforms on mannequins? Or is it easier for us to put a soldier in winter uniform in a warm room than to splurge on a hundred-ruble plastic boob? It looks like our whole army is in this: a soldier is a tool for completing a task ... and in what form this "tool" will be contained depends on the education and outlook of the commander ...
  30. biglow
    0
    December 19 2012
    all is well, but where are the boots. Like in a swamp and without boots.
  31. orfo
    0
    December 19 2012

    Why it was impossible to do as in the picture above, they will again sparkle with yellow borders.


    Summer did not change? Poke your nose.
  32. +5
    December 19 2012
    The new uniform needs to work on camouflage. Surely you understand that it is impossible to create a single universal camouflage for all climatic zones and landscapes. Although the Multicam coloring, which some units use in Russia, is also well established. Apparently buy an American uniform. In winter camouflage uniforms.
    We also use a wide waist belt, but only on trousers (trousers?) And hang a pistol holster and a knife on it. And then, the knife can also be hung for unloading. The rest is worn either on an armor plate with a mount for different pendants or an unloading or (and) combat backpack is put on the armor
    There are braces too. They are fastened on buttons.
    Shoulder straps on our shoulders only on ceremonial tunics. The insignia on the field uniform are worn on the chest above the chest pockets. When you take the armor on yourself, the insignia is not visible. By the way, the British wear epaulettes on the field uniform as well as on the "Yudashkin" uniform and do not consider it to be something shameful. Circumstances force it.
    Remove "lightning" - they make noise, deteriorate, jam. Velcro can be left for emblems, flags and that's all. It is better to use ordinary buttons, which (I do not know how to translate correctly) will be hidden under a layer of matter.
    Winter boots, if the ministry is not stingy, are very good and comfortable up to -40.
    The material from which a new uniform will be sewn is left to the conscience of Russian developers.
    1. predator.3
      +2
      December 19 2012
      Quote: hrad
      The new uniform needs to work on camouflage. Surely you understand that it is impossible to create a single universal camouflage for all climatic zones and landscapes.


      And how do you like the camouflage of this fish! laughing As they say, you don’t need to reinvent the wheel, nature has come up with various types of camouflage for a long time, you just need to copy it!
      1. 0
        December 20 2012
        This is for cartoons !!!
  33. Dubrovin
    +2
    December 19 2012
    Are lace-up shoes practical? The laces should then be very durable. I know from experience how quickly Ekkov shoelaces wear out, just a headache with these shoelaces. And boots? In conditions of extreme cold, what could be better?
  34. +2
    December 19 2012
    Chevron could return the old form. They hanged some sheriff.
  35. +1
    December 19 2012
    You crawl, somersaulting a little on the dry grass and the sleeve velcro for the chevron will all foul. Gradually, the sticky area under the chevron will narrow, as a result, you will stick it to hell.
    They will sew, as now.
  36. - = ALEX = -
    +7
    December 19 2012
    But the Ukrainian new field form






    With the camouflage pattern so far determined





    options for layers of thermal underwear






    Winter sets and equipment

    1. +2
      December 19 2012
      nothing at all. Only the epaulette again confuses.
      1. - = ALEX = -
        +7
        December 19 2012
        Shoulder straps should be on the front, field worn with body armor or unloading under which the shoulder strap is not visible ..






        Regarding the camouflage pattern, A-TACS was used in the latest experimental exercises, and perhaps there will be a new form in it.
        1. in reserve
          +2
          December 19 2012
          Not what it looks like, I liked it. There was a feeling as if they were continuing the traditions of the Soviet field form, meaning the Afghan, disappoint me if I'm wrong and the link where you can read.
          1. - = ALEX = -
            +2
            December 19 2012
            The form developer is the Norwegian company NFM Group. Brand - “Garm”.
            http://www.nfm.no/

            Work on a new field uniform for the Ukrainian army began according to the order of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine dated March 30, 2012 No. 181 “On the creation of a working group for the development of military uniforms” and in accordance with the order of the chief of the General Staff. Specialists of the Central Research Institute of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, together with the Rear Services of the Armed Forces, studied the experience of the armies of the leading countries of the world in providing military personnel with modern models of clothing and equipment, including military personnel of special forces, airborne forces and marines. Based on the work carried out by the Central Research Institute of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, “General tactical and technical requirements (tactical and technical specifications) for items of combat clothing and equipment of servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (in the direction of rear support)” were developed, which are April 27, 2012 approved by the chief of the General Staff.
            According to the approved requirements, a set of clothing must provide the military man:
            - comfortable operating conditions at air temperatures from –40 ° С to + 40 ° С, wind protection, water resistance, air permeability;
            - short-term protection against an open flame - at least 4 seconds, maintaining strength after contact with heated solid surfaces;
            - good wear resistance;
            - masking personnel from a range of reconnaissance equipment in the visible, infrared and radar ranges;
            - heat-insulating properties, ventilation of the space under clothing and not to prevent the removal and evaporation of sweat;
            - comfort, convenience and performance in conditions of prolonged wear;
            - silent operation;
            - the ability to combine items of combat clothing, depending on weather conditions and tasks.
            A set of combat clothing and equipment is divided into basic and special (additional) sets of clothing and combat equipment
            An indicative prospective list of items of clothing and equipment for the purchase and pilot testing in special forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was approved by the Minister of Defense of Ukraine on June 6, 2012.
            The rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine worked out a description of items of combat clothing and equipment and carried out an order through the Department of State Procurement and Supply of Material Resources of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine of the specified property in the amount of 150 sets.

            By the middle of the next (2013th - approx. Ed.) Year, all units of the Special Operations Forces will have a uniform of a new type.

            At the experimental research exercises, the same form was used by the Ukrainian developer of PROF1 Group® brand P1G-Tac®
            very good equipment

            http://prof1group.ua/brands/p1g_tac/
            1. - = ALEX = -
              +2
              December 19 2012
              P1G-Tac® video review


              1. +2
                December 19 2012
                It remains only to envy sad you IMHO once in 5 the form is better, the main thing is that everyone should implement it on paper.
                1. - = ALEX = -
                  +2
                  December 19 2012
                  It seems like she is already in the army

              2. phantom359
                0
                December 19 2012
                - = ALEX = -,Fine. Is there a sale? I would like to see it live. Standard fabric - rip-stop. Amused rear Koval. Samples of military uniforms to sell on certificates. ))) A ram is a ram. Then let the cocks (narrowed) for xivi sell.
                1. - = ALEX = -
                  0
                  December 19 2012
                  About Koval. As I understand it, it was a question of a uniform with a camouflage pattern adopted by the army or law enforcement agencies. In any other figure, anything can be sold.

                  Quote: phantom359
                  Fine. Is there a sale?


                  P1G-Tac® Available
                  http://prof1group.ua/brands/p1g_tac/
                  1. phantom359
                    0
                    December 20 2012
                    - = ALEX = -, Thank. Regarding the design, many companies sell military style with the original design and no problems. (Mil-tek, MFH, Blackhawk, etc.) Once again he was convinced of the inertness of the thinking of some figures, especially the rear ones.
                2. - = ALEX = -
                  +1
                  December 20 2012
                  Polish HELIKON-TEX is also very good, I use it myself ...

                  http://www.helikon-tex.com/

                  You can buy here ...

                  http://sturm.com.ua/17.html
      2. Hunter
        0
        December 19 2012
        klimpopov,
        and what does "again" mean?
    2. phantom359
      0
      December 19 2012
      - = ALEX = -It looks nice, the shoes still didn’t stop looking. Only when all this beauty falls into the army, given how much money has been allocated from the budget for the army. So far, everyone goes in butane.
      1. - = ALEX = -
        +2
        December 19 2012
        Boots are tactical demi-season
    3. Hunter
      0
      December 19 2012
      Familiar information ... laughing
    4. Dikremnij
      0
      December 25 2012
      Only this form in the future is only for Special Operations Forces.
      And the rest of the parts, I’m just sure, will go in an old oak tree, sewn from horseradish Chinese semisynthetic fabric with the same horseradish rotten thread. And the form itself, as now, will fade after the first wash.
  37. Nechai
    +3
    December 19 2012
    Quote: Esso
    further military acceptance should be, INDEPENDENT

    FROM WHOM?! Independent, then? A person can be completely independent and free, only after DEATH ... Here is the introduction of a mark (bar code) who and when accepted, this or that party from the military acceptance, this is necessary. / in zinc and other similar things, everyone met a ticket - "stacker", "packer name, or the corresponding number". And the Armed Forces will know their "heroes" ...
    Quote: Leha e-mine
    Shoes bother me - are they able to keep warm at 35-40 degrees below zero.

    The plot was aired on TV "Zvezda", in the Kemerovo region, a unit of wax scouts in the field hangs out in these samples. And there wait, oh, how warm. Boom to see the result. The only thing that the guys immediately asked for was to return the location of the shoulder straps to the shoulders ...
  38. Nechai
    +1
    December 19 2012
    Quote: klimpopov
    Py Sy, I would have taken fishing mittens to test ...

    That's right. It may not seem funny, but moisture resistance is especially important for the winter kit and shoes. Especially for BTT crews and car drivers. It is worth accidentally splashing, pouring fuel and horseradish you will have time to run to the heating point. If he is still nearby. And then hello amputation ... In the old days, a specialist sewed himself a lining of upper legs made of lame leather. And in gloves (cotton thread with a decent addition of goat fluff) - TOSHKENT and at -45C, when working on armor.
  39. +1
    December 19 2012
    I don’t have anything against Shoigu in the place of the head of the Moscow Region, but what’s bothering me ..................... how is everything fast with him? and here Shoigu came and a new form appeared already in 60 days. Isn't he a magician by chance ??
    1. 0
      December 20 2012
      I wrote above - I repeat that there was infa: this form was developed under Serdyuk from 2011 - it was tested, it’s just that we have some cyclicality on the form - apparently this is the only noticeable change that the MoD can make - changed clothes and OCP - army reform is ready
  40. 0
    December 19 2012
    nothing like the shape, but only the cockade again let us down, you don’t understand whether the PRC or the DPRK laughing
  41. PST
    PST
    +3
    December 19 2012
    As a reserve officer, he is extremely disappointed with Shoigu's actions. Without boots and footcloths in our climate and in our open spaces you cannot war for a long time.
  42. Nechai
    0
    December 19 2012
    Quote: APASUS
    .Not a magician is he by chance ??

    Perhaps, after all, they simply pulled out the previously hidden "under the cloth". And the development was carried out much earlier. Remember the story with body armor for the SA. When created - no need for FIG. How did the "200s" and "300s" go from Afgan - "feed the night before morning to kill!" Fortunately, the developers did not throw away the samples and all the documentation and were able to surprise the customer.
  43. 0
    December 19 2012
    Quote: PST
    Without boots and footcloths in our climate and in our open spaces you cannot war for a long time.
    totally agree with you. The belt was in vain removed, a very useful item of clothing. as far as I remember he was at all times. The cockade apparently crumpled the cap. Cowards and a T-shirt in the warm season were more convenient. hi
  44. +1
    December 19 2012
    I am skeptical of synthetics, lightning locks and Velcro closets. You can’t dry the synthetics around the campfire if the fighter is exposed to open fire, these clothes will be cut off in the place with the remnants of the skin. The locks are lightning, dry ... normal, a little wet, the dirt and them tryndets , you won’t open quickly, walk with a bare belly broken .. Velcro from the same opera, only for sterile use. I can offer a theory on why the boots should be replaced with berets ... and so that their Russian soldiers do not wash them in the English Channel or Indian ocean, in bots there is no datopat.
    1. +1
      December 20 2012
      Why dry something that doesn’t get wet around the fire? Everything is burning except the asbestos special suits of firemen! But I agree with you about lightning.
  45. +1
    December 19 2012
    I especially laugh at the inscription in the drawings ... this kit is the basic recommended ... and additional cash, get an upgrade of this form to the luxury category: sheepskin sheepskin coat, cable-stayed pants, felt boots, fur sleeves and a sheepskin hat with earflaps. good
  46. +1
    December 19 2012
    In the first photo again, the ancient Greek helmets of the Second World War, when they will finally be replaced with normal helmets ?!
  47. 0
    December 19 2012
    As far as I understand, our vole has the patch pockets on the trousers moved from the sides forward. And how to "fumble" in them if you are in a lying position? I agree with Velcro only if they are intended for attaching insignia and emblems. In other "moments" it is impractical and noisy. .. in the field it is difficult to think of anything better than a button closure. Well, lightning should be excluded altogether, it will jam, a tooth will fall out ... and what to do?
  48. 0
    December 19 2012
    some kind of collar is indistinct ... and the pockets are not visible ... slanting pockets on the chest would not interfere, it would be better to climb through the bulletproof vest ... And "hare" ears, hilarious! laughing ..so you see a fleeing soldier with fluttering ears in the wind)))) Without Soviet belts ... strange!)))) And give a helmet-worthy warrior !!!
  49. +1
    December 20 2012
    still a strange choice of colors for winter uniforms, including a "swamp" earflaps ... if the layer was originally intended for winter wear, why not gray-black-white-beige and other blurry shades. I understand that there are maskhalats, but often, they are simply stupidly out of stock and other excuses. Fuck this green in the snow! sad at least, a coloring like that of a Russian warrior, the photo is attached ... Yes, and boots in a real snowdrift quickly pick up snow, some kind of boots I saw were considered serious, recently ...
    1. - = ALEX = -
      0
      December 20 2012
      this color is called Waffen SS




    2. 0
      December 20 2012
      You will soon put the duck tree take a picture against its background in a white sheet and other colors and you will understand everything!
      1. 0
        December 20 2012
        are you supposedly humorous? hi do you think that hostilities especially in the fir-tree forest take place from a series of "winter and summer in one color"? I think that if layers are introduced for all seasons, then why not make them in accordance with the seasons soldier
  50. sashka
    0
    December 20 2012
    Yesterday on the radio .. Shoigu solved the problem with the BANYAMI. Honestly, I was already "! Rushing" .. Probably the FIRST who guessed that it is necessary to wash more than once a week .. It is decided to put showers in each barracks .. With two hands !!! WELL DONE!!!
    1. 0
      December 20 2012
      And IN US, in 1989 there was hot water in the washroom, and the far right point was converted into a shower. On all floors of the barracks! Maybe it’s not at the top, but in those commanders the soldier calls BATYAN?
  51. 0
    December 20 2012
    Everything that is shown here is tested and works 100%! But where are the gaiters with the membrane!
  52. DeamonFIre
    +1
    December 20 2012
    I would like to finally see real breakthrough technologies and not improved old ones =(
  53. phantom359
    0
    December 21 2012
    In general, the shape is normal, quite modern. The only thing I did was remove my hat with earflaps. a fleece hat will do the trick, but this pop hat, to put it mildly, looks funny, especially when the visor is folded back. I doubt that it will be useful in combat or in everyday use.

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