Western and Ukrainian politicians fear that the DPRK will start "large deliveries of military aid to Russia"

Western politicians and experts suddenly became wary of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu's visit to Pyongyang. Recall that the Russian delegation headed by the minister was invited to Pyongyang on the occasion of the 70th anniversary of the end of the war on the Korean Peninsula. In the historiography of the DPRK, this event is designated as the Victory Day of the Korean people in the Patriotic Liberation War of 1950-1953.

During the hours that Sergei Shoigu has so far spent in the North Korean capital, he laid flowers at the monuments erected in honor of the liberation of Korea. The monument in Pyongyang appeared in 1946 as a token of gratitude to Soviet soldiers for the liberation of the country from Japanese occupation. Sergei Shoigu also laid baskets of flowers at the monuments to Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il. The Russian Minister of Defense in Pyongyang is holding talks with his Korean counterpart Kang Sun Nam.

From the statement of the head of the Russian defense department:

Nice to meet and get to know you. I accepted with gratitude your invitation to visit Pyongyang, the capital of our friendly state. I am grateful to Korean friends for the proposed rich program. From the first minutes I felt your care and your attention. It is possible not only to work actively, but also to learn a lot of interesting things about the DPRK, your culture, traditions and sights. The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is an important partner of Russia, with whom we share a common border and rich story cooperation.

In turn, Kang Soon Nam noted that he was glad to meet with Sergei Shoigu, and expressed the hope that ties in various fields, including the security sphere, between the DPRK and Russia would be strengthened.

Western and Ukrainian politicians openly fear that the DPRK will begin "large deliveries of military aid to Russia." Particular concerns about this in the United States, the European Union and in the camp of the Kyiv regime are associated with the "possibility of North Korea to supply Russia with large volumes of ammunition." The American, European and Ukrainian press believe that such deliveries are possible and that they "may significantly change the situation at the front."

Even if such supplies are possible, the main question is: what does the West care about, which is actively arming the neo-Nazi Kiev regime, using Ukraine for its own purposes?

Comments

[NDR-791]

Are they afraid???... And they are doing the right thing, let them be afraid. At the same time, the pants will be washed. Why am I angry today

[credo]

...Western and Ukrainian politicians openly fear that the DPRK will start "large deliveries of military aid to Russia." Particular concerns about this in the United States, the European Union and in the camp of the Kyiv regime are associated with the "possibility of North Korea to supply Russia with large volumes of ammunition" ...

Even if this is so, then certainly the Anglo-Saxons have nothing to blame if Russia does the same.
Just as the West, according to the notorious "grain deal", drove tens of thousands of tons of weapons and bp to Ukraine in exchange for grain, so Russia can receive tons of weapons and bp from friendly and interested countries in exchange for grain and other food products.
In this case, these are symmetrical actions of different parties to the conflict, and there is no point in fearing the Anglo-Saxons and their Kyiv puppets. Everything is in order.

[topol717]

Nuclear submarines with nuclear missiles arrived in South Korea, the United States wanted to show that they could protect someone there. The Minister of Defense arrived in the UK.

[Egeny]

So it's good, namesake, that the minister "arrived", we've been trending here at VO for more than a month about establishing contacts with Kim as soon as possible. It is high time. Let the adversaries fuss, and we will throw off the rupees and yuan ... since Kim does not respect dollars.)

[ramzay21]

For 30 years, the liberals have been so controlled by our once mighty military-industrial complex that now the military-industrial complex of the backward North Korea looks better than ours. Is it a joke while the liberals ruled the country, the once most advanced MLRS in the world Smerch is so outdated that even the DPRK, blocked from all sides, created a MLRS more modern and better than our Tornado, and soon there will be nowhere to produce MLRS, the manufacturer of our MLRS Motovilikha Chemezov with his gang is selling and soon high-rise buildings will rise instead of the factory.
And it is not clear how to pay off the Koreans? On a good note, they could be supplied with our Su-35s, which can significantly strengthen the DPRK Air Force or oil, but our leadership has imposed sanctions against the DPRK and continues to comply with them.
Although it is good to develop trade with the DPRK, in addition to ammunition and more modern MLRS and self-propelled guns, they also have fish, but we could supply them with oil, aircraft, including civilian ones, and much more.

[Jager]

And most importantly, the DPRK does not care about possible sanctions and the "opinion of respected partners." So if necessary, they will gladly sell us any number of ammunition.

[credo]

Quote: Jager

And most importantly, the DPRK does not care about possible sanctions and the "opinion of respected partners." So if necessary, they will gladly sell us any number of ammunition.

Continuing the topic.
If it comes to that, it would be a hundred times more useful for Russia not to give away grain and fertilizers to strangers for nothing, but to supply the DPRK in exchange for ammunition. And we will have a decent appendage, and they will use both for the benefit of their population.

[bayard]

Quote: credo

If it comes to that, it would be a hundred times more useful for Russia not to give away grain and fertilizers to strangers for nothing, but to supply the DPRK in exchange for ammunition. And we will have a decent appendage, and they will use both for the benefit of their population.

Maybe then we should invite labor migrants from S. Korea? They are disciplined , accurate , perform their work qualitatively , do not make noise and do not create problems of a criminal nature . A very good alternative to our multi-vector non-brothers from Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and other Central Asia.
For North Korea, in opposition to the West, is "IN THE ONE TENCH" with us, and the Central Asian guest workers are trained that: "Allah built the cities of Russia for us, it remains just to take them and get rid of the Russians." Now there is a war in the Northern Black Sea region, the Duma adopted laws on General Mobilization ... Who will we leave our cities to, having gone to war? For Tajiks?
The question is not idle.

[ramzay21]

A very good alternative to our multi-vector non-brothers from Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and other Central Asia.

The problem with migrants from Central Asia is a problem of criminal irresponsibility and idleness of our leader, all these problems are solved very quickly by the usual construction of a working management system.

You just need to introduce a visa regime for all migrants who want to work in the Russian Federation and toughen the punishment for violating it by orders of magnitude. Everyone who wants to work in the Russian Federation must find an employer in the Russian Federation, receive an invitation from him to work, collect documents proving that he has no criminal record, that he was not registered with the psychological and narcological registers, undergo a medical examination in clinics approved by our embassy and pass an interview with our consul and pay consular fee. The employer, for his part, must show that he did not find our employee for this place, provide the foreign worker with housing in places isolated from the local population, medical insurance and withhold taxes from the foreign worker, the employer must also maintain order in the places of residence of foreign workers and be responsible for them.
For violations of the visa regime, that is, for working without a work visa, the employee must be immediately deported with a lifetime ban on entry, and the employer fined at least 20 million rubles for each employee, in addition, criminal punishment with long terms and confiscation of property from those who decided to violate the visa regime and even more severe punishments, up to VMN for police officers and migration services.

In addition, it is necessary to introduce the Law on Migration, according to which there would be no statute of limitations for obtaining Russian citizenship illegally and providing for the deprivation of citizenship of the entire family of a migrant, including children born here, to introduce criminal liability, up to VMN with confiscation against officials for such crimes.
It is also necessary to introduce a system for issuing citizenship ONLY after five years of residence in the Russian Federation with a residence permit but with the same rights as a citizen of the Russian Federation, with the exception of the right to vote, to prohibit giving not only citizenship but also a residence permit to representatives of nationalities that are not indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation , to do this ONLY if the foreigner has proven his usefulness to our country and shares our traditional and cultural values ​​and only by issuing a residence permit in our country. If such a person, having received a residence permit, lives for at least five years without violating the laws of our country, works, pays taxes, learns the language and our history perfectly, plus the migration service will interview neighbors, work colleagues, teachers and parents at school, and only indigenous nationalities RF and will receive positive feedback, only then can our citizenship be given to such foreigners and with a five-year trial period.

Building such a system will very quickly solve all problems with migrants, even from Tajikistan, even from the DPRK

[VitaminBF3mg]

Where did such data come from? Ours-yours quietly helped-inappropriately la-la

[bayard]

Quote: ramzay21

all these problems are solved very quickly by the usual construction of a working control system.

You offer well, but it seems that the Russian authorities have some other views on the upcoming migration crisis in the Russian Federation. They stubbornly do the opposite, giving rise to ethnic mafias, corruption of the security forces and the Migration Service. Officials of all ranks and stripes feed very well from migrant communities. The supreme power was removed from everything.

Quote: ramzay21

Building such a system will very quickly solve all problems with migrants, even from Tajikistan, even from the DPRK

Criminal communities of Tajik (and not only) migrants have already spread metastases throughout the country. And recently (and this is absolutely unbelievable) they even began to strain the authorities ... for the war ... men go to the front ... migrants remain in the cities ... migrants already consider these cities their prey and are only waiting for the men to leave for the front ... At the same time, the authorities are not capable of doing something conscious, because they are trained to manage only crises ... therefore, they are looking for "simple solutions". Here is one of these "simple solutions" I suggested.
Migrants must be withdrawn from our cities. Even to the detriment of construction and utility companies. The nouveaux riches cannot think of another organization for the functioning of the economy, but it is simple and habitual for them to replace some migrants with others (namely labor ones) ... And again corruption schemes will begin to line up ... Otherwise they cannot.

[Mouse]

Something I have such an impression based on these stories ..... the whole world is with us!

[Alex777]

Been waiting for something like this for a long time.
Apparently the conditions are right.

[Uprun]

For anyone, both of them need to collect coins.

[esl462]

Isn't it time for us to stop participating in the economic blockade of the DPRK?

[guest]

It's high time, but the "partners" are against it.

[KCA]

Signing up for a blockade does not mean getting married, the DPRK lives on the help of the PRC, the PRC is increasing imports from Russia not only of oil and gas, but also of grub, the PRC supplies grub to the DPRK, something like that, and no one has yet been able to control and stop leftist deliveries, Shoigu did not go to the DPRK himself, he was invited

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: KCA

The PRC supplies grub to the DPRK, something like that, and no one has yet been able to control and stop leftist deliveries

Vague doubts torment me ...
A great way for China, without substituting, to supply us with anything through the Kims.
We don't care - you can always poke the West into their own puddle with your nose. But China still does not give a damn. Although, something tells me that not for long. With sanctions and rhetoric, the Americans are jumping with China to the same point as with us ..

[Plate]

A riddle for the GUR and SBU: where did the advanced processors come from in the Russian design bureaus ... made in the DPRK?!

[KCA]

And then, the DPRK is a backward country that has nuclear weapons, ballistic and space missiles, everyone can do it, khly, for example, or psheks with balts, and their processors are clearly not processors equal to those of the balts, yes, but do you know those?

[Galleon]

Quote: KCA

And then, the DPRK is a backward country that has nuclear weapons, ballistic and space missiles, everyone can do it, chly, for example, or psheks ...

There were rumors that at one time the North Koreans took over the brains and technologies of the Ukrainian missile design bureaus that remained unclaimed after the collapse of the Union, which helped them create modern rocket and space weapons. If in our time those results are used on our front, what a turn it will be!

[Kotisha]

I'm afraid they'll get tired of jumping too closely linked to their economies ((((

[igorbrsv]

. Isn't it time for us to stop participating in the economic blockade of the DPRK?

I only know that products are delivered there for sure.

[Wer best do]

Then South Korea might be offended. There is no other explanation for these strange sanctions.

[KCA]

The Republic of Kazakhstan is under the control of the United States, well, they think so, the United States, in the sense, the Koreans, what is there, what is on their minds, it’s never a fact that the Republic of Kazakhstan will selflessly fit in in the event of any nix for the United States, the government, yes, but who prevents it from being washed away in a point ? Koreans can

[rotmistr60]

The Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation in the DPRK - the Americans and their European sixes became alert and immediately began to voice their concerns. Here are just fears, first of all, about the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and they don’t think that the former relations in the military sphere can finally be restored between the two countries. But in vain.

the main question: what does it matter to the West, which is actively arming the neo-Nazi Kiev regime, using Ukraine for its own purposes?

They still live by the principle - what is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

152-mm would not interfere with us, but Iskanders would have thrown them.

[topol717]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

152-mm would not interfere with us, but Iskanders would have thrown them.

They don't need Iskanders, they need blueprints!!

[Zaurbek]

They already have their Iskanders and Tochka and BRSD

[gsev]

Quote from: topol717

They don't need Iskanders, they need blueprints!!

You have a poor idea of ​​the level of training of North Korean workers and designers. If in Russia work in the military-industrial complex is extremely unprestigious, and about 10 years ago, alcoholics worked all the time at the Khrunichev plant, because from such a low salary, any person will inevitably begin to drink bitter to forget. Then in the DPRK, any guy and girl strives to demonstrate success in their studies and transfer to a special school where they prepare candidates for admission to technical universities in the DPRK. In Russia, at the request of the powers that be in universities, in practice, interns are only allowed to watch how others work. Our interns are not allowed to work at the machine or to adjust the instruments. What is the use of a university graduate if by the age of 23 he did not connect an electric motor, did not turn on the machine, did not sharpen a drill or cutter? In the DPRK, a graduate of an elite secondary special school for relatives of the top management of the DPRK is mastering the specialty of an auto mechanic and electromechanic by the end of it. He receives a full set of skills in car repair and the design, assembly and programming of simple electromechanical systems such as a programmable controller, servo drive, frequency converter and operator panel. He also masters design programs like solidwork and autocad.

[gsev]

Western politicians fear that trade between the DPRK and Russia will begin. For Russian oil and food, the DPRK can replace Germany, Taiwan, Switzerland and Japan with its metal-cutting machines, and the Netherlands with greenhouse equipment. The DPRK also has a developed chemical industry. At one time, the North Koreans developed an original technology for producing synthetic threads with an eye to the Soviet market of insulating materials for wire-guided ATGMs. But the USSR bowed to the Italians and bought equipment for the production of synthetic fiber in Italy and not the DPRK. It was then that "bologna" jackets appeared in the USSR. In the DPRK, modern enterprises for the production of shoes are idle. If Shoigu agrees on oil supplies to the DPRK, then Adidas, Batya, Ekko, as well as other Czech, Italian, German, Danish shoe companies, will forever lose the Russian market. The defeat in Ukraine is not fundamental for the West. Europeans, by and large, do not care whether Zelensky and Kolomoisky will win the right to kill Russians in the Crimea and Donbass for speaking Russian, or such wishlists will be severely punished. But the loss of the opportunity to sell programmable controllers, sensors, servos, chastotniki, operator panels is fatally unpleasant for the Germans and the French for three times more than the Koreans and Chinese.

[igorbrsv]

. If Shoigu agrees on oil supplies to the DPRK, then Adidas, Batya, Ekko, as well as other Czech, Italian, German, Danish shoe companies, will forever lose the Russian market

Then this Lavrov should be sent. Shoigu definitely did not go for shoes.
The exchange never seems to stop. At least I know for sure that now he is. But neither qualitatively nor quantitatively it is simply unknown. Because the sanctions

[Plate]

Quote: gsev

North Korea can replace Germany, Taiwan, Switzerland and Japan with its metal-cutting machines

What? Is the production of CNC, robots, printers and other modern equipment established in the DPRK?

Quote: gsev

But the loss of the opportunity to sell programmable controllers, sensors, servo drives, chastotniki, operator panels is fatally unpleasant for the Germans and French for three times more than the Koreans and Chinese.

Do they also make controllers there? Tell me, didn’t they set up their own full cycle for the production of processors and memory cards there by chance?

[gsev]

Quote: Plate

What? Is the production of CNC, robots, printers and other modern equipment established in the DPRK?

Perhaps the North Koreans do not produce any CNC, no operator panel, no servo. The DPRK does not have such access to the foreign market and is not able to sell more controllers than the PRC. In addition, the PRC will not allow either Russia or the DPRK to successfully squeeze China out of international markets. For example, in order to prevent KAMAZ from winning a tender for the supply of its trucks to one of the Persian Gulf countries, the Chinese government allowed its manufacturer to supply trucks below cost and compensated for the difference between the sale price to the Arab country and the price that the Chinese automaker declared in its offer at the end of the auction on tender. The PRC, having the production of PLC, HMI, servo drives and frequency converters, nevertheless shows interest in purchasing Russian greenhouses made in cooperation with the Dutch. This was already after the start of the conflict in Ukraine and the imposition of sanctions against Russia. That is, the scientific component, knowledge of algorithms, is very important. In the DPRK, over the past 5 years, a powerful greenhouse complex has been created no worse than the Dutch one. By the way, Azerbaijan also shows an increased interest in Russian I&C engineers who own greenhouse technology, and Azerbaijan has achieved greater success in industrial espionage than PRC intelligence in capturing greenhouse technologies in Russia. The Dutch think that an outstanding adjuster (and Russian effective managers that a loser adjuster from this company) went into a binge, and he arrived in Azerbaijan with honor and works there on a shabbat almost for a European salary. The greenhouse automation system is a PLC with thousands of discrete inputs and outputs and many analog ones, that is, the most powerful and productive.

[smart fellow]

What? Is the production of CNC, robots, printers and other modern equipment established in the DPRK?

CNC machines, industrial robots and 3D scanners, 3D printers and other modern equipment are produced in the DPRK (V. Kashin's interview, who V. Kashin is https://clck.ru/357Yx5, look for the interview itself on youtube)

http://www.ito-news.ru/archive/2012/1205kortec.pdf

Do they also make controllers there? Tell me, didn’t they set up their own full cycle for the production of processors and memory cards there by chance?

North Korea produces computers, laptops, smartphones and tablets. For 3 years of isolation from covid, when the borders with China and Russia were completely closed in the DPRK, they developed and put into service cruise missiles of the Tomahawk / Caliber type with a range of 2000 km, which is impossible without electronics, and then, let me remind you, the borders were closed and it was impossible to get from outside . Kim Jong-un called for the development of one-carbon chemistry and the production of one-carbon materials, which the DPRK uses to produce ballistic and cruise missiles and allegedly exports to Iran. They are building their own nuclear submarine, etc.

https://www.ixbt.com/news/2020/02/06/v-severnoj-koree-predstavleno-novoe-pokolenie-smartfonov.html

[Metal bro]

Like in the DPRK it is, but we don’t? That's how

[Michael]

I wonder whether they will be transported by railway or by "grain carriers" along the Northern Sea Route?

[tralflot1832]

Mikhaill. Why is everyone fixated only on Shoigu, on the celebration of the victory in the war of 1950-53, a delegation of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China takes part. this year, until October, with a tonnage of almost 10 containers, 000 to St. Petersburg and one to Arkhangelsk. There will be one container ship with a capacity of 4 containers. !

[gsev]

Quote: tralflot1832

Moreover, one "firm" in the PRC, the main one for container transportation along the Russian Railways, launched a line along the NSR this year, until October, with a tonnage of almost 10 containers, 000 to St. Petersburg and one to Arkhangelsk. There will be one container ship with a capacity of 4 containers.

With the beginning of the NWO, it became clear that the Trans-Siberian and Russian ports have insufficient capacity to compensate for maritime transportation past the coasts of NATO countries with the obligatory entry of ships for refueling. With the onset of the crisis in Ukraine, the leadership of the PRC offered Putin to invest in the expansion of the Trans-Siberian Railway and promised to supply equipment for this modernization at affordable prices. Nabiullina transferred an amount five times as large to the West at a meager percentage, which is now all frozen or confiscated, which, in principle, is unambiguous for Russia, and freezing is more beneficial for the United States. The dollars for which Russia supplied products mainly to the West have been withdrawn from circulation, and the United States can introduce newly printed or virtual dollars into circulation for a similar amount without inflationary consequences. China now sells much more products to Russia and the Trans-Siberian is overloaded. Perhaps they are bringing knitwear and shoes from China and not weapons along the NSR ..

[Terator]

Nai street runs to the west.. and has always worked. Therefore, now we have what we have .. and someone instead of execution .. left her in office

[Mainjet88]

Even if we don't really need it, I think we need to accept help from them.
Let there be ammunition, let there be a dozen or two or three thousand fighters.
This is good for them, and for us too.
The current KIM is different, he is changing the country, changing slowly but surely.
And this (we helped our northern brothers is a big + to his karma).
Well, we will not be superfluous.

[igorbrsv]

They have shells a dime a dozen. They are produced, but spent only on exercises

[Kurganets-45]

pour grain to the North Korean comrades!

[Jager]

Whatever Kim is, I respect him for his position to spin the US on a jade rod.

[Amateur]

And why does Shoigu walk in a uniform with lapels, and not in an idiotic one with a stand-up collar?

[Doctor]

And why does Shoigu walk in a uniform with lapels, and not in an idiotic one with a stand-up collar?

Cool question! Probably because the Soviet style is in fashion there!
But it's still cool, how can we do it when it's tight!

[Amateur]

the soviet style is in fashion there

Moreover, he should be there in a tunic with a standing collar. Approximately like Marshal S.M. Budeny

[aakvit]

And it's right,

Even if such deliveries are possible, the main question is: what does the West care about this, which is actively arming the neo-Nazi Kiev regime

,

[AdAstra]

I seem to have fallen into some kind of parallel universe, a small country that knows how much under sanctions it will provide “large deliveries of military assistance to Russia”, which seems to think of itself as a world power, etc. and so on.

[Ivan Ivanov]

It's good if our respected leaders, with a fair amount of Gorbachev's convolutions in their heads, decide to ask for this help, and even worse - in exchange for technology, food and the lifting of sanctions.

[Kotisha]

Yes, not this one of ours is just that there is a universe and reality! After all, the great power pissed everything off, stole and sold it (((And the small camp (where is it? Where is it?) put everything in the house into the family! something like that, so we will hope for these largest deliveries, but the main thing is not to make mistakes as it likes do it reindeer breeder((((

[Pravodel]

Western and Ukrainian politicians openly fear

Let them be afraid. We had long needed to come to an agreement with the DPRK, in which, for example, the MLRS hits much further than our MLRS. The DPRK also has a high-power 630 mm MLRS, which also beats unlike ours. North Korea can supply us with 152-caliber shells, with which we now have some problem, and a lot of other things we need.
With the DPRK, even trade by barter, for example, by supplying food, manufactured goods, gas, oil, etc.

[Alexandr2637]

Western politicians and experts suddenly became wary of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu's visit to Pyongyang.

Still would! What if they remember the potential one hundred thousand Korean soldiers ready to fight on the side of the Russian Federation.

[Rage66]

Koreans have noble MLRS. The range is more than 200 km, and the newest bullets are up to 600 ...
We were not disturbed by such

[Horon]

Even if such supplies are possible, the main question is: what does the West care about, which is actively arming the neo-Nazi Kiev regime, using Ukraine for its own purposes?

Because they (the west) violate THEIR rules written for others, and if such deliveries are made, then THEIR rules that they created FOR OTHERS will be violated.
In fact, it is strange to discuss the opinion of the enemy on their own decisions, it smacks of an attempt by the inhabitants of the colony to discuss the opinion of the metropolis. Are we already a colony or still a colony?

[Ivan Ivanov]

The main thing is that Mr. Shoigu should not be afraid to ask for them, otherwise, using the example of Chinese partners who are equally famously selling drones to us and Bandershtat, it is clear that ours prefer to keep their mouths in a certain place. Yesterday, Mikheev said that buyers of drones from his fund periodically encounter a problem in China: "and they are all already contracted for months ahead by Ukraine." Putin and Shoigu should finally open their mouths and start saying something about this.

[bravo77]

Quote from esl462

Isn't it time for us to stop participating in the economic blockade of the DPRK?

so Iran, too, brains. fell from the s-300,
here is the diversity of our leadership

so I think, what is on the mind of the Chinese in relation to us,
let's say if China was the first to stir up the topic with Taiwan
and we wouldn’t have our own, we helped China then, without fear of sanctions

of us, the partners are still those, given the attachment to the west.
so neither China nor North Korea can be deceived

as soon as the West gives a signal to our ylits to be friends against others
the Kremlin ones will change their shoes in an instant

[bravo77]

Quote: Rage66

Koreans have noble MLRS. The range is more than 200 km, and the newest bullets are up to 600 ...
We were not disturbed by such

if they had such systems with appropriate accuracy
they would not eat grass from hunger
half the world would make them rich

[bravo77]

Quote: Kurganets-45

pour grain to the North Korean comrades!

by the way
they could honestly work this grain and even more instead of migrants
but tajikistan is more important

[Zaurbek]

If the US has imposed equally suffocating sanctions between the DPRK, Iran and the Russian Federation, can we also trade among ourselves?

[gsev]

Quote: Zaurbek

If the United States imposed equally suffocating sanctions between the DPRK, Iran and the Russian Federation

With regard to the DPRK, the sanctions are more suffocating. The United States has always allowed and continues to allow Russia and Iran to trade in raw materials, North Korea is prohibited from doing so.

[al3x]

This would all be funny if it weren't so sad.

[Alexander 53]

And maybe additionally Korea will be a transfer hub from China.

[kill the fascist]

I really want my fears to come true.

[bravo77]

Quote: al3x

This would all be funny if it weren't so sad.

it yes
they came to ask where ordinary people have a TV in their apartments - a miracle

and on the salary of Shoigu you can feed the whole province

[gsev]

Quote from: bravo77

they came to ask where ordinary people have a TV in their apartments - a miracle

In 1940, the French had incomparably more cars for private use compared to Soviet citizens, but France fell under Hitler a couple of months after the German offensive.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Tellingly, this is almost the only country that has supported us since 2014, and we continue to turn up our noses.

[Tagan]

Quote from AdAstra

I seem to have fallen into some kind of parallel universe, a small country that knows how much under sanctions it will provide “large deliveries of military assistance to Russia”, which seems to think of itself as a world power, etc. and so on.

First, it is far from certain that the DPRK will be engaged in "large deliveries of military aid" to Russia. So far, this is at the level of fantasies of "partners" and other flakiness. Secondly, even if it were so, one does not interfere with the other (military supplies from a small country to a world power that, in your opinion, imagines itself to be such).
So you ended up in a parallel universe for an unknown reason.

[astra wild2]

"what does it matter to the West" author, don't be a child: they are great at counting. Ammunition is expended at a tremendous rate.
So far we don't notice

[Tagan]

Quote from: bravo77

if they had such systems with appropriate accuracy
they would not eat grass from hunger
half the world would make them rich

Do you know for sure that North Koreans are currently "hungry grass eaters"?

[fa2998]

Quote: Alex777

Apparently the conditions are right.

You can’t imagine such a thing in a nightmare. The DPRK, in which weapons supplied or copied from the 60-70s, are still in service, supplying them to Russia !!! To Russia, which received hundreds of billions of dollars from oil products, where the visionaries are in the leadership, where they "mastered" several trillion in the rearmament of the army - buy in Korea ??

[Nastia makarova]

so what? our factories are already overloaded, and there will be no need to buy extra ammunition, and it takes a lot of time to build new factories, and why

[Kostadinov]

Particular concerns about this in the United States, the European Union and in the camp of the Kyiv regime are associated with the "possibility of North Korea to supply Russia with large volumes of ammunition"

Only an American, and not everyone can, think that South Korea will supply weapons and ammunition to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and NATO countries, and the DPRK will not supply Russia, Iran and Syria.
Russia has a surplus of grain and oil.
Russia has fifth-generation fighters and modern naval DE submarines
North Korea has the best experience in the world with "aircraft hunters" using conventional small arms.
The DPRK has dozens of thousands of anti-aircraft guns from 14,5 to 57 mm with a huge amount of ammunition.
All this is very useful in the fight against micro and mini drones.
North Korea is one of the leading manufacturers of the latest MANPADS and ATGMs in the world.
North Korea is the leading manufacturer of all types of UAVs in the world, which regularly fly over Seoul and over US bases in the region.
The DPRK has a huge number of 76 - 170 mm guns, 82 - 120 mm mortars and 107 - 600 mm MLRS.
North Korea is one of the world's leading powers in the production of advanced chips.
For now, enough at the first stage - unless, of course, Russia wants to develop an exchange.

[bravo77]

Quote: Tagan

Quote from: bravo77

if they had such systems with appropriate accuracy
they would not eat grass from hunger
half the world would make them rich

Do you know for sure that North Koreans are currently "hungry grass eaters"?

they eat occasionally
sorry you don't know
and if they have stew with meat inclusions today
that doesn't mean there won't be another vegan tomorrow

everything is on the Internet - expand your horizons
how he regularly sends humanitarian aid,
how the United States sends, so as not to be flooded south during the famine

the so-called exercises of the north in exchange for food

[bravo77]

Quote: Kostadinov

North Korea is the leading manufacturer of all types of UAVs in the world

mda (hand-face)

[Tagan]

Quote from: bravo77

they eat occasionally
sorry you don't know
and if they have stew with meat inclusions today
that doesn't mean there won't be another vegan tomorrow

everything is on the Internet - expand your horizons
how he regularly sends humanitarian aid,
how the United States sends, so as not to be flooded south during the famine

the so-called exercises of the north in exchange for food

There are a lot of things on the Internet, including what does not expand one's horizons, but completely pollute the brain. So do not overdo it in the pursuit of "knowledge".

[bravo77]

Quote: Tagan

Quote from: bravo77

they eat occasionally
sorry you don't know
and if they have stew with meat inclusions today
that doesn't mean there won't be another vegan tomorrow

everything is on the Internet - expand your horizons
how he regularly sends humanitarian aid,
how the United States sends, so as not to be flooded south during the famine

the so-called exercises of the north in exchange for food

There are a lot of things on the Internet, including what does not expand one's horizons, but completely pollute the brain. So do not overdo it in the pursuit of "knowledge".

keep keeping your pristine brain free of knowledge
it's easier, I admit

MOSCOW, April 23 - RIA Novosti. The UN World Food Program continues to supply humanitarian aid to the DPRK, despite certain obstacles, the last delivery took place in March 2021, Kun Li, the representative of the organization for Asia and the Pacific, told RIA Novosti.
https://ria.ru/20210423/prodovolstvie-1729703791.html

In 1997, as part of the Quadripartite Talks on the DPRK's nuclear program, an agreement was reached under which the United States began to provide major aid to North Korea and, along with South Korea and China, became the country's main food and medical sponsor. In total, from 1995 to 2005, the United States provided more than a billion dollars in aid to the DPRK.

Americans feed Pyongyang
Despite criticism of the DPRK regime and the threat of military action, Washington provides humanitarian assistance to the country's authorities through UNICEF channels.
https://iz.ru/648679/nataliia-portiakova/severokoreiskie-deti-dlia-ssha-vne-politiki

[bravo77]

Quote: fa2998

Quote: Alex777

Apparently the conditions are right.

You can’t imagine such a thing in a nightmare. The DPRK, in which weapons supplied or copied from the 60-70s, are still in service, supplying them to Russia !!! To Russia, which received hundreds of billions of dollars from oil products, where the visionaries are in the leadership, where they "mastered" several trillion in the rearmament of the army - buy in Korea ??

well, what did you want
World War I
introductory the same infallible sovereign surrounded by unsinkable favorites, in the country embezzlement, corruption, fraud, backwardness of industry

the middle of the war - shell hunger (as a result of a failure at the front) and industrial patriots supplying the army with multiply expensive weapons, and even then in limited quantities. that's actually why they began to buy weapons in France in exchange for 400 thousand Russian bayonets for the western front.

everything is exactly the same, only other names and names of countries

[Kotisha]

Agree! No wonder that in his emergency appeals he drew an analogy with Nikolai2, the empire and betrayal!

[glestwid]

I wonder what will be the analogue of the basement of the Ipatiev house...

[Tagan]

Quote from: bravo77

keep keeping your pristine brain free of knowledge
it's easier, I admit

MOSCOW, April 23 - RIA Novosti. The UN World Food Program continues to supply humanitarian aid to the DPRK, despite certain obstacles, the last delivery took place in March 2021, Kun Li, the representative of the organization for Asia and the Pacific, told RIA Novosti.
https://ria.ru/20210423/prodovolstvie-1729703791.html

In 1997, as part of the Quadripartite Talks on the DPRK's nuclear program, an agreement was reached under which the United States began to provide major aid to North Korea and, along with South Korea and China, became the country's main food and medical sponsor. In total, from 1995 to 2005, the United States provided more than a billion dollars in aid to the DPRK.

Americans feed Pyongyang
Despite criticism of the DPRK regime and the threat of military action, Washington provides humanitarian assistance to the country's authorities through UNICEF channels.
https://iz.ru/648679/nataliia-portiakova/severokoreiskie-deti-dlia-ssha-vne-politiki

At the institute, teachers told us that, among other things, the goal of our training is, to no lesser extent, the ability to work with information (reference books, scientific articles, patents, etc.). The university was technical, but this does not change the essence.
You seem to have not been taught how to work with information. You don't care about time frames, sources, etc. Well, what is the use of what you pulled?
As for the "virgin purity of the brain." Well, you don't have to talk about it. There is no better way to turn it into a place of excrement.

[Tagan]

Quote: fa2998

You can’t imagine such a thing in a nightmare. The DPRK, in which weapons supplied or copied from the 60-70s, are still in service, supplying them to Russia !!! To Russia, which received hundreds of billions of dollars from oil products, where the visionaries are in the leadership, where they "mastered" several trillion in the rearmament of the army - buy in Korea ??

Before twisting at the temple, I suggest trying to comprehend your own fantasies.

[vitalm]

Remove shares from North Korea to begin with. "Friendly" visits with a fig in your pocket!

[petrol cutter]

"Western and Ukrainian politicians fear that the DPRK will start "large deliveries of military aid to Russia"
And the Russian Federation - everything is already exhausted?
What a twist...
I have long been interested in the question - for how long will the Russian Federation have enough resources for GRINDING?! ..
All and all...

[al3x]

The biggest question is where exactly are 70% of new and upgraded weapons hidden? From the news stories, you can see only mostly Soviet, and even then not the first freshness ...

[nordscout]

In addition to ammunition of the "Soviet" standard, you can purchase cannon artillery. The DPRK has it modern and reliable ....

[Yarik]

Why was this visit delayed so long? This should have been done last summer.

[nordscout]

Dear Yarik! What visit? And what would our American "partners" say to this? Here we conduct NWO with a constant eye on the "partners", and you are talking about a visit to the DPRK ... We will not run into problems .....

[bravo77]

Quote: Tagan

Quote from: bravo77

keep keeping your pristine brain free of knowledge
it's easier, I admit

Americans feed Pyongyang
Despite criticism of the DPRK regime and the threat of military action, Washington provides humanitarian assistance to the country's authorities through UNICEF channels.
https://iz.ru/648679/nataliia-portiakova/severokoreiskie-deti-dlia-ssha-vne-politiki

At the institute, teachers told us that, among other things, the goal of our training is, to no lesser extent, the ability to work with information (reference books, scientific articles, patents, etc.). The university was technical, but this does not change the essence.
You seem to have not been taught how to work with information. You don't care about time frames, sources, etc. Well, what is the use of what you pulled?
As for the "virgin purity of the brain." Well, you don't have to talk about it. There is no better way to turn it into a place of excrement.

the teacher didn’t say anything new, only the meaning didn’t reach you

the level of your technical education and outlook is depressing
you apparently just learned today that sowing Korea is permanently teetering on the brink of hunger / malnutrition

work with information if your yellow sources that you trust do not write about the DPRK .. please

compare the average resident of the DPRK and South Korea
a southerner will be at least half a head taller with some excess weight.

a resident of the DPRK is a fitness model at the peak of drying with sunken cheeks and visible ribs
but this lag in growth and muscle / adipose tissue is not a consequence of an addiction to healthy lifestyle,
and the banal lack of a balanced diet with proteins (i.e. meat) and fat

people are starving there, malnourished, how else to explain this to the stubborn
who sculpt something about their education

[bravo77]

Quote: al3x

The biggest question is where exactly are 70% of new and upgraded weapons hidden? From the news stories, you can see only mostly Soviet, and even then not the first freshness ...

will support
and where are the 300 thousand regular active officers?
they couldn’t find commanders for mobiles in training, they took them from the same mobiles

and where are those regular pensioners to whom the army on stream gave housing at the age of 40-45 upon retirement, are they worse than jackets?
I know one in the thought sits - Kartapolov 59 years old, up to 65 at least fit

[Nitten]

It is very strange that Russia still supports UN sanctions against the DPRK. Although the very already these sanctions are hung like fleas on a dog.

[Nitten]

Moscow. October 16, 2016. INTERFAX.RU - Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree providing for the application of sanctions against North Korea in response to Pyongyang's nuclear missile tests.
According to the explanatory note to the draft decree, the measures provided for by Security Council resolution 2321 introduce additional bans on trade, economic, banking, financial, scientific and technical cooperation with the DPRK.

In the trade and economic field, the purchase of copper, nickel, silver and zinc from the DPRK is prohibited. At the same time, the exception provided for by UN Security Council Resolution 2270 of March 2, 2016 for the project for the transit of Russian coal through JSC Russian Railways through the North Korean port of Rajin for subsequent export to third countries remains.

It follows from the explanatory note that, in the banking and financial line, UN member states are ordered to close all representative offices of their banks in the DPRK within 90 days from the date of the adoption of the resolution. Individuals and organizations are prohibited from funding support for trade with the DPRK through both public and private channels.

In addition, scientific and technological cooperation involving individuals or groups representing the DPRK, except for exchanges in the field of medicine, should be suspended; the list of specialties in which training in the territory of the UN member states of North Korean citizens is prohibited is increasing.

Additional restrictions are being introduced on cooperation in the transport sector: the supply of new helicopters and ships to the DPRK is prohibited; all maritime vessels owned or controlled by the DPRK must be deregistered; measures are being tightened to screen the aircraft and ships of the DPRK on the territory of the UN member states.

In addition, targeted restrictions are being expanded against a number of North Korean individuals and legal entities, as well as lists of products, including "luxury items", the import/export of which to/from the DPRK is prohibited. In addition, the lists of dual-use goods and other items that are prohibited from being imported into the DPRK due to their potential use for the country's nuclear missile programs and other actions that violate the North Korean sanctions regime are expanding.
In September 2017, the UN Security Council adopted a new resolution 2375 regarding the DPRK. It provides for a restriction on the purchase of petroleum products by Pyongyang: it will be allowed to purchase up to 2 million barrels per year. In addition, the import of crude oil is limited at the level of the last 12 months and a ban is introduced on the supply of liquefied natural gas and gas condensate to the DPRK.

The document also provides for a complete ban on the export of textile products from North Korea, which will be a rather severe blow to the country's economy: in 2016, textile exports brought the DPRK economy $752,5 million.

In addition, countries are prohibited from issuing new work permits for workers from North Korea.

[Nitten]

The only justification is that in May 2022, Russia vetoed in the United Nations Security Council a draft US resolution to increase sanctions against North Korea, and then together with China.