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Ukrainian side: None of the 7 Russian Onyx missiles and none of the 4 X-22 missiles were shot down by air defense forces

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Ukrainian side: None of the 7 Russian Onyx missiles and none of the 4 X-22 missiles were shot down by air defense forces

The Ukrainian military department reports on the strikes of the Russian Armed Forces on targets in various regions. The most massive attack, like the previous night, was carried out against objects in the Black Sea regions - Nikolaev and Odessa.


Of particular note is the change in Ukrainian rhetoric regarding Russian missiles and UAVs. If earlier the General Staff and the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine claimed that “all missiles were shot down” or “19 out of 20 were shot down”, now the statements are of a different nature.

The morning report says that, for example, not one of the Onyx supersonic missiles was shot down. At the same time, according to the Ukrainian side, 7 units of such missiles were used, and they were fired from launchers of the Bastion DBK.

Also, according to the Kyiv regime, not a single X-22 air-launched cruise missile was shot down.

Ukrainian military department:

The enemy fired 4 X-22 missiles from Tu-22M3 aircraft over the Black Sea. Unfortunately, not one of them failed to shoot down.

At the same time, it is claimed that “two out of three Caliber”, “three out of five Iskander missiles” and “13 out of 19 strike missiles” were shot down. drones».

If we summarize these data, it turns out that 18 out of 38 means of destruction were shot down by the air defense forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The efficiency of work, therefore, was about 47%. This is an extremely low result.

In this case, the Kiev regime either really recognizes the decrease in the effectiveness of its air defense, or in this way tries to get the West to increase the supply of air defense systems. Although it could well be one or the other.
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  1. Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 20 July 2023 09: 10
    -1
    do not consider khokh.lov (and their owners) fools
    or in this way is trying to get the West to increase the supply of air defense systems

    !!!
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 20 July 2023 09: 13
      +7
      They took into circulation the technique: fishing for whining ...
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 20 July 2023 09: 29
        +14
        hi!
        Quote: Alien From
        They took into circulation the technique: fishing for whining ...

        Previously, cheeks were puffed out - "We shot down more than what was launched! Give even more of EVERYTHING so that we shoot down three times more than what was launched."
        Now the tactics have changed - "We could not shoot down anything! We are so unhappy ... Give us EVERYTHING so that we can shoot down."

        Boasting didn't help. Let's see if whining helps.
        The essence of the beggar does not change from the methodology.
        1. Paul Siebert
          Paul Siebert 20 July 2023 09: 40
          +19
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          The essence of the beggar does not change from the methodology.

          1. Orange Bigg
            Orange Bigg 20 July 2023 10: 00
            +4
            Well, what kind of sammit is so unsuccessful? There is no one to even talk to. Where did I get? Where am I? Zelensky thought to himself.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 20 July 2023 14: 15
              +3
              Quote from Orange Bigg
              Well, what kind of sammit is so unsuccessful? There is no one to even talk to. Where did I get? Where am I? Zelensky thought to himself.

              "I wish I had a spree with Hunter! The axis would have been on the right..." good wassat
              And on the left too.
              The trouble is, he wasn't invited either...
            2. nik-mazur
              nik-mazur 20 July 2023 17: 52
              +3
              Quote from Orange Bigg
              Where am I? Where I am?
              And most importantly: Who am I?

          2. Wayfarer_2
            Wayfarer_2 21 July 2023 09: 40
            +1
            Who is this powerful old man? This is a giant of thought, the father of Russian democracy ... Monsieur, it’s not mange pas sizhur.
        2. novel66
          novel66 20 July 2023 10: 43
          +4
          And damn it was from a patriot like from a machine gun, you had to save the last rocket for yourself
        3. Omskgasmyas
          Omskgasmyas 23 July 2023 09: 01
          0
          When does a hahol lie? Every time he opens his mouth.
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 20 July 2023 12: 33
      +5
      Quote: Vladimir80
      do not consider khokh.lov (and their owners) fools
      or in this way is trying to get the West to increase the supply of air defense systems

      !!!

      There, each rat solves its own problems + the media inflates the constant Peremoga!
      Some shoot down 100 missiles out of 34 launched, and the second complain that the missiles are over ....................... some appeal to the population, and the second to the allies
  2. Irek
    Irek 20 July 2023 09: 12
    +2
    This means that the owner will again have air defense systems - missile defense systems to beg.
    1. Saburov_Alexander53
      Saburov_Alexander53 20 July 2023 09: 47
      +1
      This means that the owner will again have air defense systems - missile defense systems to beg.
      And after all, they will give it .. In vain in Ukraine they forgot the words of Woland from "The Master and Margarita: Never ask for anything! Never and nothing, and especially for those who are stronger than you. They themselves will offer and give everything themselves ” winked
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 July 2023 09: 14
    +4
    The morning report says that, for example, not one of the Onyx supersonic missiles was shot down. At the same time, according to the Ukrainian side, 7 units of such missiles were used, and they were fired from launchers of the Bastion DBK.

    Also, according to the Kyiv regime, not a single X-22 air-launched cruise missile was shot down.
    The Kakelov ran out of air defense rackets. They lied before as they breathed. Or do they think to pity the owners for additional air defense systems?
  4. Boycott
    Boycott 20 July 2023 09: 15
    +8
    thus trying to get the West to increase the supply of air defense systems
    One would think those who make decisions in Washington receive information from the media. Don't take us for fools.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 July 2023 09: 20
    +4
    4 X-22 missiles from Tu-22M3 aircraft over the Black Sea. Unfortunately, not one of them failed to shoot down.
    If they are already forced to admit this, then indeed their air defense is a complete shvak. Europe must prepare for the next tour of supplicants. Will Europe have anything serious to give?
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 20 July 2023 09: 20
    0
    Ukrainian side: None of the 7 Russian Onyx missiles and none of the 4 X-22 missiles were shot down by air defense forces
    . But this looks like outright whining, extortion for additional "buns" from sponsors.
    1. lyrics
      lyrics 20 July 2023 12: 50
      +1
      These are undeniable facts! All the missiles reached their goal, but you need to somehow report to the owners, complain and whine in a request for more zbroi)))
  7. Observer2014
    Observer2014 20 July 2023 09: 20
    0
    Any war is also propaganda with politics going wild in its insane madness for any understanding person. Here we see the results. What is profitable. That's what they print.
  8. barbiturate
    barbiturate 20 July 2023 09: 21
    +1
    Instead of lies, they started pushing half-truths
  9. Uprun
    Uprun 20 July 2023 09: 21
    +1
    Another cunning plan to beg for more PV funds will end in another zrada. Krivorukie, hastily prepared, specialists on freebie technology. Here is the result.
  10. digger
    digger 20 July 2023 09: 24
    +8
    These stupid people cannot even lie plausibly, stating that not a single Onyx could be shot down .. and the Onyx anti-ship missiles are actually SUPERSONIC with a flight speed of + - 3000 km / h .. but Iskander's near-hypersonic missile with a near-hypersonic speed of 5000 km / h they shot down .. and not one. You need to know how to lie, as possessing the rudiments of a mat part of all Russian missiles.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 20 July 2023 11: 54
      +1
      So "Iskander" is also in the version of a cruise missile. Maybe it's about him?
    2. KCA
      KCA 20 July 2023 12: 09
      +4
      Yes, just like the butts heard the names of the missiles and let's put it in place and out of place, the Iskander-M rocket flies at a marching altitude of 50 km, and even maneuvers with overloads up to 30g, how will they get it? The missile dives vertically at the target, again due to the control of the flight path by the engine from the start to hitting the target
  11. Mikhail Ivanov
    Mikhail Ivanov 20 July 2023 09: 28
    0
    The whole world has seen it. With a Ukrainian in relation to air defense, everything will only get worse. They have almost exhausted the Soviet potential, and the West will not be able to replace it in the required volumes.
  12. Wer best do
    Wer best do 20 July 2023 09: 30
    +1
    A very unexpected statement. Usually chickens shoot down more missiles in words than ours launch.
    Hence the conclusion. Either they decided to beg for a new air defense, or the destruction of such a scale that it makes no sense to lie. Well, either one or the other.
    1. The comment was deleted.
  13. alebdun2000
    alebdun2000 20 July 2023 09: 41
    +2
    And my question is how they shot down Iskander and no onyx? They have the same speed
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 July 2023 10: 54
      -4
      Interceptions are carried out towards, not after.
      The daggers were shot down towards "point-blank" when they attacked from above the position of the Patriots.
      And it was near Kyiv.
      There are no Patriots near Odessa.
      Nothing to hit.
      1. Nickelium
        Nickelium 20 July 2023 12: 37
        +2
        Nobody knocked down daggers. There is no such means now to bring down the Dagger. Patriot missed homemade pipes. What are his supersonics?
      2. lyrics
        lyrics 20 July 2023 12: 46
        +1
        Why not? S-200 could well. There is such a trick. Learn materiel.
      3. nik-mazur
        nik-mazur 20 July 2023 17: 54
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Daggers shot down
        True, right? But the men don't know. It's good that there are experts who can see better from Israel ...
    2. lyrics
      lyrics 20 July 2023 12: 48
      +1
      And this, as in that joke ... The patient to the doctor: "And my neighbor, who is 90 years old, says that he can five times a night." Answer: "And who forbids you to tell your neighbor the same?"
  14. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 20 July 2023 09: 47
    0
    Kind people! Help whoever can, but it’s better with modern air defense systems in unlimited quantities, otherwise the orcs will exterminate us.
  15. Rumata
    Rumata 20 July 2023 09: 49
    0
    We were taught that at the first stage, enemy air defenses should be destroyed in order to gain complete air superiority.
    1. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 20 July 2023 10: 12
      +4
      In theory, this is exactly the case. But there are nuances.
      1. If the enemy's air defense is relatively weak, then possible losses can be neglected and priority targets can be destroyed.
      2. If the enemy's air defense, on the contrary, is very strong, then focusing only on its destruction, you can forget about strikes on other targets for a very long time.
      3. Air defense is a very multifaceted thing, it includes a lot of components except for air defense systems, so it’s quite realistic to take out one of the critical factors from the enemy and air defense will sharply weaken.
      4. You can not even destroy air defense, but drown out the work of the PLS, or overload its work with a mass of decoys or combat targets, the effect will be very serious.
      5. You can force the enemy to spray his air defense systems over his territory and destroy targets that will already be poorly covered. On the contrary, it is possible to force the enemy to concentrate air defense systems in one or several places and hit uncovered targets.
      Naturally, air defense systems must be destroyed constantly.
    2. nik-mazur
      nik-mazur 20 July 2023 17: 56
      +1
      Quote: Rumata
      We were taught that at the first stage, air defense should be destroyed
      I'm embarrassed to ask: where did you study? And then basically, now all military experts are taught, or rather googled, on the Internet.
  16. astra wild2
    astra wild2 20 July 2023 10: 04
    0
    "change of rhetoric", but they said that they did not lend themselves to study! So you lied?
    I have happiness: I took the phone from repair.
    From 6 07 could not replace the TPS socket.!
    Fortunately, I had an old one lying around: LG, "Clamshell".
    Who has left, "push-button" TAKE CARE !!
  17. Oleg812spb
    Oleg812spb 20 July 2023 10: 06
    +1
    It seems that the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to understand their mistakes and again began to breed their Western partners for pity.
  18. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 20 July 2023 10: 33
    -1
    Everything is clear here.
    There is no strong air defense near Odessa.
    The listed missiles are capable of intercepting either the S-300, or the Patriot, or NASAMS.
    Patriot defend Kyiv and the region, there are very few missiles left for the S-300.
    NASAMS is also near Kyiv.
    1. lyrics
      lyrics 20 July 2023 12: 44
      0
      Yeah, how! The S-300 of the Ukronazis bombard their buildings in the cities with rockets from this and other complexes, including the Patriot, sometimes exposing them to total destruction.
  19. Serge9901
    Serge9901 20 July 2023 10: 50
    0
    Cunning, quirky, deceitful, impudent beggars. They alternate "if we had more weapons" with "even if you give us, if we want to." Oh, and vile passengers...
  20. EvilCommunist
    EvilCommunist 20 July 2023 10: 59
    0
    Of course, they still beg for additional air defense and do not pretend to be directly more accurate in the assumption, but it seems to me in addition:
    when on July 16 they bombed a train of NATO equipment along with escort, (https://topwar.ru/221916-ukrainskie-istochniki-soobschajut-o-tochnom-porazhenii-rossijskoj-raketoj-jeshelona-s-voennymi-i-tehnikoj-v-vinnice.html ) and, as I understand it, immediately after arrival, NATO "wounded animals" urgently were imported by medical planes to Polish Zhuszow, which was noticed by looking at the Flyradar.
    In short, what I wanted to say.
    You tell your dear guest, come, everything will be fine, everything is on the ointment! And the guest, on the way to the gingerbread, tea, coffee and girls, snatches the bumbul to the resuscitation bed.
    And now to say that everything is safe with you, that everything is fine, well, as you yourself understand ...
    Although "dear guests" even without them know what can be grabbed, but if you constantly convince that everything is fine, we knock everything down, we beat it off, that everything is safe, so they believed.
    We have to change the rhetoric, let them go through these stories, about the fact that they shoot down 100 out of 100, they will tell in the intensive care unit of the taken away NATO wounded animals, they will check out the news.
  21. lyrics
    lyrics 20 July 2023 12: 42
    0
    This is just a good result. The life time of an air defense unit is 15 minutes! During this time, the on-duty stock of missiles has been released and the complex is waiting for arrival ... And that's all))) These are not my words, this is an instruction from above brought to us in 1983. And therefore, ZRV specialists know what I am writing about. Let's be realistic and not only. We love and honor our Motherland, our native land and are ready to defend it, realizing that we will die, but we will try to defend it to the last drop of blood, as they say.
    1. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 20 July 2023 14: 58
      +2
      You gave an example for a single ZRV complex. When air defense divisions work in conjunction, they cover each other, located at a distance less than the missile launch range. In this case, the division that fired its missiles can, under the cover of a neighbor, either have time to reload the launchers, or curl up and leave. Moreover, long-range air defense systems are covered by medium and short-range air defense systems. This is called separation defense. When I served in the ZRV, (mid-70s), our division could shoot down targets over its neighbors.
  22. guest
    guest 20 July 2023 18: 35
    0
    Ukrainian side: None of the 7 Russian Onyx missiles and none of the 4 X-22 missiles were shot down by air defense forces

    But how did they shoot down daggers then? wink
  23. Alexander Tkachenko
    Alexander Tkachenko 21 July 2023 00: 51
    0
    It is necessary to react to the Ukrainian data as to the words of Suvorov about the size of the losses of the Turks following the results of the battle: "Write more. Why feel sorry for their adversaries!"
  24. FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 21 July 2023 01: 30
    +1
    It is unlikely that they shot down the Iskanders, if neither the Onyxes nor the Kh-22s could shoot down
  25. Wayfarer_2
    Wayfarer_2 21 July 2023 09: 44
    0
    Why doesn’t anyone have the question: “Where did you put your planes, your air defense? After all, you had a lot of all this. Pushed to the left? So you are like a state, and each state is obliged, first of all, to provide its own defense.
  26. savage3000
    savage3000 23 July 2023 14: 33
    0
    "three Iskander missiles out of five
    ________

    Those it turns out according to Ukrov's logic that it is easier to shoot down a hypersonic almost ballistic Iskander than a supersonic Onyx ??? Logickaa! )