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The Russian Embassy in Syria has confirmed the fact of the abduction of Russians

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The Embassy of the Russian Federation in Damascus confirms the fact of the abduction of two Russians, one of whom has Russian-Syrian citizenship. A spokesman for the Russian diplomatic mission, Sergey Markov, said: "In the area of ​​the Tartus-Homs highway, three citizens were abducted. One of them is Russian, the second has dual citizenship - Russian-Syrian, the third is stolen - Italian citizen."

Currently, the Russian Embassy in Syria is taking active measures to establish the location of the Russians, ITAR-TASS reports. All abductees are employees of a private enterprise.

As reported, earlier the Italian Foreign Ministry announced information that in the suburbs of Tartus unknown persons abducted the Italian citizen Mario Bellomo and his two colleagues, who may be citizens of Russia. All three worked in a steel factory in Latakia.
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  1. itr
    itr 18 December 2012 11: 04
    +1
    Well, let's see what our MID will do
    1. Igor
      Igor 18 December 2012 11: 07
      +1
      Quote: itr
      Well, let's see what our MID will do


      Nothing, in Libya our people are still sitting.
    2. humanist
      humanist 18 December 2012 11: 10
      +3
      Quote: itr
      Well, let's see what our MID will do

      The Foreign Ministry can only negotiate with the official authorities, in this case the Foreign Ministry is powerless. We can only hope that the local security forces or the army will beat off the hostages or the kidnappers will get in touch for "bargaining" ... request
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 18 December 2012 13: 09
        +4
        Combat Activity Summary for December 17

        Damascus

        In the province of Damascus in the village of Al-Diyabiya, the military killed four militants, including one of the leaders of the "Mujahideen battalion" Gassab Al-Manduri (Az-Zarqawi). Several terrorists associated with the Abu Hasan group were also killed there.

        In a damask suburb of Arbin, an army unit eliminated several vehicles equipped with heavy machine guns and dozens of terrorists, among whom four especially dangerous criminals were identified. A large number of militants were destroyed in Beit Saham and Akraba, among them Asad Hamza and Anas Okla were identified.

        In the province of Damascus in the village of Khujeira, a terrorist base was liquidated, the terrorists who were there and their weapons and ammunition were there. Among those identified are Omar Al-Luweisi, Burkhan Abu Aisha and Ahmad Karkush. An underground workshop for the production of IEDs and missiles was also discovered there. Another army operation carried out in this village led to the destruction of the mortar and the militants serving it.

        In the village of Al-Husseiniya, a weapons and ammunition depot, a vehicle with a heavy machine gun and terrorists, and a terrorist base with many militants were discovered and destroyed.

        Several armed terrorist groups were destroyed in the Duma and Harast. Among the killed militants, Mohammad Ridgehl and Mohammad Al-Zeyn were identified. The terrorists' shelter was destroyed in Hajir, all those inside were destroyed, including Ahmad Qasheh, Salah Al-Khanash, Dibo Sadka, Khaled Balta and Mohammad Ghazal.

        On Faisal Street in Damascus, law enforcement officials found a warehouse in the basement of a house with weapons, ammunition, explosives and products. 33 improvised rockets, machine guns, pistols, night vision devices, binoculars, sniper rifles and components for the manufacture of explosives were confiscated. Weapons and ammunition were hidden in the fuel tank.

        A military unit killed and wounded several terrorists during operations in Zamalka and the East Ghouta region. As a result of the hostilities, especially dangerous criminals were killed, including the leader of the so-called "Military Council of Zamalka". Two vehicles equipped with large-caliber machine guns were also destroyed there.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 18 December 2012 13: 09
          +5
          aleppo

          In the Bustan al-Qasr region, when an explosive device was mounted on a car, it detonated prematurely. The explosion killed about 40 militants.

          A number of operations were carried out in the Al-Sfeira area. During the fighting in the areas of Hreitan, Khan Fog and Al-Uweija, a large number of terrorists were destroyed. Clashes also occurred in the areas of Bustan al-Qasr, Al-Sukkari, Al-Mashhad and Al-Zubeidiya.

          During the shootings in the old city, several militants were destroyed. Skirmishes took place in the quarters of al-Bandera, Bab-Antakiya and near the Al-Othman mosque.

          Homs

          In the city of Homs, a bus with 200 IEDs ready for use was detained, which included explosives with a high degree of detonation. In the province of Homs near the villages of Burj Kai and Samalil, dozens of terrorists were liquidated by the military.

          Citing a source in the province, the correspondent of the SANA agency reported that during the special operation the mortar, DShK machine guns, and a large number of ammunition were destroyed. Among the liquidated terrorists, Munir Garmush, Visam Saur and Zakhi Bakkar were identified.

          Daraa

          In the city of Daraa, as a result of a clash with terrorists, many militants were destroyed, their weapons were seized. Among those liquidated are Munib Abdel-Jalil Hariri, Ali Ash-Shamluni, Ramez Kattash, Muhammad Javad Yousef and Ahmad Al-Abud.

          During the search of one of the cars, security officers discovered a consignment of drugs: 244 tablets of a capsule.

          In the area of ​​Al-Mismiya, located in the north of the province of Daraa, Israeli-made machine guns, submachine guns and short-range missiles of the Lau type were confiscated from members of groups belonging to Jabhat al-Nusra. Some of the killed terrorists have been identified: Isa Ibrahim Al-Jassem, Qasem Muhammad Sharida, Muhammad Anwar Al-Abdullah.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 18 December 2012 13: 20
            +3
            It may sound somewhat cynical, but Assad’s army is now gaining invaluable experience in fighting against terrorists. It would be necessary for our people to carefully look at this, and adopt experience - it will always come in handy.
      2. Retx
        Retx 18 December 2012 13: 44
        +5
        But how to act in that foreign duck (during the war in Lebanon), find the ringleader-six, cut off his balls, stuff him in his mouth and send him to Qatar, to the SSA office with an urgent note and a note: the same procedure with you all in turn, without anesthesia. PS and no UN will help you "... But our soft-hearted politicians will not save them :(
      3. igor67
        igor67 18 December 2012 14: 43
        0
        humanist,
        Why then? Once the states have officially recognized the "rebels" as a legitimate power, then the Foreign Ministry must negotiate through amers.
    3. Misantrop
      Misantrop 18 December 2012 11: 12
      +11
      Like this
      Quote: itr
      what will

      Naturally, he will start bargaining. Country market (mother) economy. This totalitarian regime could send a group of special forces and blow the nest of these "businessmen" to shreds. And now the SN GRU has no need for the country, instead it has a wallet wink And you can’t touch the heroic rebels, the democrats may not understand ...
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 18 December 2012 11: 21
        +3
        Quote: Misantrop
        And you can’t touch the heroic rebels, the democrats may not understand ...

        Yes, who will ask them! Spread everything to a goddamn grandmother and everything
      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 December 2012 11: 26
        +7
        The democrats have already begun to put a bolt. Not big yet, but already started.
    4. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 18 December 2012 11: 41
      +2
      Quote: itr
      Well, let's see what our MID will do


      It’s not the Ministry of Foreign Affairs here, with the help of TU-95, the Air Force must treat the areas hit by State Depot cockroaches with special large-explosive insecticides, and it would be nice to beat the barking mouse (Qatar) with the same parasite control tools, but would not pay for jackals dancing on the bones.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 18 December 2012 12: 15
        +8
        I remember that we adopted a law on combating terrorism abroad, the application of everything in view of a clear threat to our security. There is something stumbling over the law. And it would be necessary to shy away from the Saudi Wahhabis, just like Dudaev did.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 18 December 2012 21: 35
          +1
          The Russian embassy in Damascus confirmed the abduction of two Russians and an Italian who worked for private companies in Syria.
          Meanwhile, a detachment of the Baltic Fleet ships, consisting of the Yaroslav the Wise patrol ship, the Kaliningrad and Alexander Shabalin large landing ships, the SB-921 rescue tug, and the Lena tanker, advanced to the shores of the country's civil war. On board the BDK are marine units.
          “Marines, if an order is received to evacuate Russian citizens from Syria, will have to cover the evacuation center in Tartus. They were not assigned the task of releasing the hostages, ”said Argumenty.ru in the High Command of the Navy.
          Also, according to the officer, the command of the Navy is now not up to the leadership of the campaign. “The entire Navy Commander-in-Chief, cut back by Serdyukov, is developing a rationale for transferring from St. Petersburg back to Moscow. Since it’s supposedly just turned out that the Admiralty’s building has no channels of special secure communication with the 109th Central Communications Center in Balashikha, Moscow Region, ”the officer is indignant.
          The initiative to transfer the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy to the northern capital belonged to former State Duma Speaker B. Gryzlov and ex-Governor V. Matvienko. And it was warmly supported by Serdyukov. How many billions it took to move and how much it will take to return is a military secret.
    5. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 12: 29
      0
      Quote: itr
      Well, let's see what our MID will do

      While he voiced the news.
      Unidentified persons abducted Russian citizens following a car V.V. Gorelov and Abdessattar Hassun, who also had Syrian citizenship. Together with them, an Italian citizen Mario Belluomo was captured. All three are employees of the steelmaking company Khmisho & Co., located in the industrial zone of Khasiya near Homs ... The kidnappers of Russians and an Italian citizen over the phone put forward the specified company the requirement to pay the ransom as a condition for their release, ”the statement said.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 54
        0
        But it’s not called who exactly abducted?
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 18 December 2012 15: 04
      +4
      Baltic Fleet ships moving to the coast of Syria to evacuate the Russians

      A detachment of warships and auxiliary vessels sent the Baltic Fleet to the coast of Syria.

      According to a source in Baltiysk, the patrol ship Yaroslav Mudry, large landing ships Kaliningrad and Alexander Shabalin, the Lena tanker and a tug left Baltiysk on a long voyage to the Mediterranean Sea. They are heading to the shores of Syria for possible participation in the evacuation of Russian citizens.

      The campaign was being prepared in a certain hurry, but was highly classified, information about it appeared in recent days, Interfax notes. The time for the return of the ships to Baltiysk by the command has not been determined, since it depends on the development of the situation in Syria. It is possible that some of the ships will be sent with the evacuated citizens to the Russian ports of the Black Sea.
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 11: 05
    +3
    What will our government do? to pay the ransom, but given the attitude of the militants towards Russia they will simply be killed, not the embassy, ​​but the special services should establish the location and release them. Here's the news ....
    A few days ago the large landing ship (BDK) of the Baltic Fleet Kaliningrad began urgent preparations for a long voyage to the eastern coast of the Mediterranean Sea. This was reported to the Central Naval Portal by a source in the Baltic Fleet.

    The crew of the large landing craft "Kaliningrad", located in Baltiysk, at the end of last week received an order from the command of the fleet on urgent preparation for a campaign in the Mediterranean Sea, to the shores of Syria. According to a source of the portal, the official task of the campaign is to evacuate Russian citizens who are in the zone of armed conflict between the rebels and troops loyal to the Bashar al-Assad regime. The planned duration of the trip is 2 months.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 18 December 2012 11: 51
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The crew of the large landing craft "Kaliningrad", located in Baltiysk, at the end of last week received an order from the command of the fleet on urgent preparation for a campaign in the Mediterranean Sea, to the shores of Syria. According to a source of the portal, the official task of the campaign is to evacuate Russian citizens who are in the zone of armed conflict between the rebels and troops loyal to the Bashar al-Assad regime.

      If this is true, then the decision is right. Soon the denouement. Syria will not hold back. Russia is leaving, apparently agreed, at least to take out the people.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 01
        +1
        If this is true, then the decision is right. Soon the denouement. Syria will not hold back. Russia is leaving, apparently agreed, at least to take out the people.

        It’s not a fact that he’s leaving, but that the people are taken out of trouble, they’ve done well. It is worth recalling that there is still a large ship group, which also includes the 3 BDK. With marines on board.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 18 December 2012 12: 20
          0
          it’s important to me: everyone knows about the BDK, but how many marine forces are on them?
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 18 December 2012 12: 36
            +1
            And yet. It’s for me that these "SSA statements" are first written in warm offices, and only then voiced by terrorists. And this is not "just a business", but a clear sign of Russia, because the hostilities have been going on for a long time, and the Russians were taken for the first time.
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 56
              +1
              So this has long been understood. There is no SSA, there is a bunch of bandits and terrorists receiving money from these warmest cabinets. Where these offices are located, I think in general it is not necessary to voice.
          2. Wedmak
            Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 49
            0
            Exact numbers did not seem to be there. Either the battalion, or just to protect the ships.
      2. ser86
        ser86 18 December 2012 13: 11
        0
        21 2012 June The Russian authorities began preparations for the evacuation of Russian citizens from Syria in case of exacerbation of clashes in this country or foreign military intervention

        http://www.stoletie.ru/lenta/rossijan_gotovat_k_evakuacii_iz_sirii_683.htm

        they wanted to evacuate in June, which prevented it from being understood.
        Now while the ships are on the way, these Islamists will try to steal someone else
  3. Wedmak
    Wedmak 18 December 2012 11: 09
    +1
    But this is already bad. If diplomats do not work and threats or blackmail follow, this already implies a military operation against the kidnappers in response.
    For the murder (I really hope that this will not come to this) - a comparison with the land of a couple of bandit camps.
    We will observe what our Foreign Ministry will do. If nothing, he will VERY disappoint the Russians.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 11: 15
      +3
      Quote: Wedmak

      But this is already bad.

      What exactly is bad and to whom? those who are currently held captive by terrorists will not be exactly told.
      Quote: Wedmak
      . If diplomats do not work and threats or blackmail follow, this already implies a military operation against the kidnappers in response.

      You believe that they will send an army to release two people, to put it mildly naively. Try to find even large forces in the chaos of people. I won’t be surprised if they are already in Turkey.
      Quote: Wedmak
      We will observe what our Foreign Ministry will do

      And what can the Foreign Ministry do now?
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 December 2012 11: 23
        +1
        It’s bad that they captured the Russians. The state should be responsible for the safety of its citizens outside the country.
        You believe that they will send an army to release two people, to put it mildly naively. Try to find even large forces in the chaos of people. I won’t be surprised if they are already in Turkey.

        The army is unlikely, but the special forces group - it was easy to arrange. A normal country will do so. Let's see what ours will do. Even if they are already in Turkey, this does not mean that they do not need to be released.
        And what can the Foreign Ministry do now?

        The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is intended not only for chatter with official authorities, it is our representative abroad. So let him do what is supposed to and how it should be.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 11: 30
          +2
          Quote: Wedmak
          The army is unlikely, but the special forces group - it was easy to arrange

          Not long to send, for this you need two components.
          1 The decision of our authorities.
          2 Know where to send.
          Quote: Wedmak
          The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is intended not only for chatter with official authorities, it is our representative abroad. So let him do what is supposed to and how it should be.

          The Foreign Ministry does not have special forces, did the Foreign Ministry decide a lot during the capture of our citizens earlier?
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 18 December 2012 11: 35
            0
            Not long to send, for this you need two components.
            1 The decision of our authorities.
            2 Know where to send.

            Therefore, we are waiting for the reaction of the authorities and intelligence. information.

            The Foreign Ministry does not have special forces, did the Foreign Ministry decide a lot during the capture of our citizens earlier?

            And when were our citizens captured abroad? Please, just not to be confused with "charges of breaking the laws."
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 11: 55
              0
              Quote: Wedmak
              And when were the seizures of our citizens abroad?

              From time to time, they happen, in Somalia they captured quite a bit, in Afghanistan and Nigeria. And what do you think that when they capture and charge, it does not count?
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 01
                0
                Violation of the laws of the host country, this is not a seizure, this is an arrest.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 12: 23
                  0
                  Are you talking about Buta and Yaroshenko?
                  1. Wedmak
                    Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 50
                    0
                    Yeah .... The fact that the story is dark and so understandable, but this is not a seizure with a ransom demand.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 15: 54
                      +1
                      Quote: Wedmak
                      but it’s not a ransom claim.

                      What's the difference?
          2. ser86
            ser86 18 December 2012 18: 44
            +1
            Text: Russia Today
            The airborne troops of the Russian Federation will come to the aid of women and children located in Syria, when necessary, and even ensure the evacuation of Russian citizens if necessary. This was announced on Tuesday by the commander of the Airborne Forces Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov. Moreover, Russian soldiers have experience in conducting such operations.

            http://warfiles.ru/show-19994-desantniki-shamanova-zaschityat-rossiyan-ot-siriys
            kih-boevikov.html

            I'll hope
        2. Karish
          Karish 18 December 2012 11: 50
          +4
          Quote: Wedmak
          It’s bad that they captured the Russians. The state should be responsible for the safety of its citizens outside the country.

          ransom cannot be paid. It will become a habit to abduct.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 02
            0
            And I did not speak about the ransom. The Foreign Ministry can forever threaten with a cam. An example of this is Churkin’s epic response to the representative of Qatar.
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 18 December 2012 12: 51
              +3
              Quote: Wedmak
              Churkin's response to the representative of Qatar.

              Churkin’s ironic answer in the form of a question: “And you, you signed an agreement with Ghalioun similar to those that you received with the Libyans, on the right to intelligence with the participation of Americans, British and French? Or is this deal more extensive and will include the Red Sea-Haifa-Beirut-Banias gas pipeline, and maybe Homs can be located on the route of the Iranian and Russian gas pipeline projects? What do you say now playing open poker, although I know that you are just an amateur? Starting with gas fields in the Mediterranean, in which Israel offered Russia's participation in exchange for recognition of Israeli sovereignty over some offshore zones! "

              Hamad understood: “So there’s no need to continue, you intend to thwart the Arab resolution, you lose the Arabs, and you will pay for your position.”

              Churkin stands in front of Hamad letting him know that the interview is over, puts his hand on his shoulder and says: “I have a meeting with the Syrian representative Jafari about this resolution, but I would like to remind you that your state did not exist on the map at that time, when the Russian fleet sailed between the waves in the Persian Gulf two centuries ago. And remember, a story is sometimes reproduced in the form of a comedy, so don’t become the hero of this comedy, when laughter is inappropriate, this is the tragedy that is happening today. ”
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 59
                +3
                Plus you. He said so said. Although I prefer a less diplomatic translation. smile
                "Once again blurt out something in that tone, and your Qatar will not live to see tomorrow." This is somehow better perceived by the "apostles" of democracy.
      2. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 18 December 2012 11: 46
        +1
        Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what can the Foreign Ministry do now?

        Exactly - nothing ...
        Or maybe not make SHARP movements, as some suggest here
        Quote: JonnyT
        Yes, who will ask them! Spread everything to a goddamn grandmother and everything

        It is very possible that this "abduction", a cunning provocation designed for
        Quote: Wedmak
        but the special forces group - it was easy to arrange

        Maybe the patience of the "crap-makers" is over ... Let's go for more rude methods? ...
        I won’t be surprised if any of the Chinese are soon kidnapped.
        I think that the government should be more careful in making decisions ...
        Very careful ...
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 18 December 2012 11: 53
          +1
          Maybe the patience of the "crap-makers" is over ... Let's go for more rude methods? ...
          I won’t be surprised if any of the Chinese are soon kidnapped.
          I think that the government should be more careful in making decisions ...
          Very careful ...

          It may very well be. Recently there was a throw about the Iskanders in Syria ... But on the other hand, the operation to free the hostages carried out jointly with the country where they are located is not an invasion. However, the Yankees can pervert everything as we never dreamed of, here they are masters.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 11: 57
          +3
          Quote: Z.A.M.

          Or maybe not make SHARP movements, as some suggest here

          And the truth is, why isn’t it our relatives, you can do nothing at all, what’s the cost of a country that doesn’t take any steps to free its own citizens?
      3. 46bob46
        46bob46 18 December 2012 19: 02
        0
        Roosevelt, when he was the president of the United States, turned AUG back when he remembered that he had forgotten his dog on one of the islands. Who knows in the subject.
        And here are not human friends.
    2. Che
      Che 18 December 2012 11: 36
      +3
      Wedmak,
      Here the work of special services is necessary. I think they could determine their location, destroy the rats and free the hostages.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 December 2012 11: 45
        +2
        Yes, in general, that's what I'm waiting for. But it would also be nice to press through diplomatic channels. Thus showing, once again, the true face of the "Free Army" ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 11: 58
          0
          Quote: Wedmak
          But it would also be nice to click through diplomatic channels.

          Who to click on, amers will immediately say that these clowns are not related to the SSA
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 08
            +1
            Yes to sneeze on amers, are they the last instance of truth? Click on those who stole, and on top of them. It must be made clear that with Russia, such jokes usually end with the corpse of a joker.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 12: 15
              0
              Quote: Wedmak
              Click on those who stole, and on top of them.

              And who feeds and bites the top?
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 19
                0
                That is why and chmer on amers. smile At the moment, that’s all we can do with them.
      2. sq
        sq 18 December 2012 13: 10
        0
        Roughly speaking: sensible guys in a certain amount should go there and get out a black one ... x so that the great-grandchildren of their distant relatives remember that Russians (Belarusians, Ukrainians, etc.) CAN’T BE ANIMAL!
  4. NSG42
    NSG42 18 December 2012 11: 10
    +1
    And what terrible happened? because there is a war, not a resort, one must think with one's head what to do, and not relax. Actually, the United States can enter spetsnaz for any country to protect its citizens, but Russia will not have enough spirit (I mean our government), because they are afraid of losing their money (which are in foreign banks). Here is our guide, they sell people for money!
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 18 December 2012 11: 23
      +1
      Let's see what our people will do. We will not make hasty conclusions.
    2. djon3volta
      djon3volta 18 December 2012 14: 09
      0
      I knew that right now someone would write something like this - "but the Americans, but the Americans, but the Americans protect their citizens ... and Russia, and Russia, and Russia, only the prices for housing and communal services can raise, because Putin is a thief and all thieves "
      here you don’t know how to write anything else.
  5. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 18 December 2012 11: 12
    +2
    it was definitely necessary without western shit
  6. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 18 December 2012 11: 17
    +3
    What will the Italian Foreign Ministry do? They said that the militants are very "decent" people! Here the Italians have nothing to cover! Russia is directly forced to get involved in the war. This is very bad. It is necessary to destroy the top of the terrorists, they gave a reason. Eliminate the top, others will understand that it was not possible to get the heat with someone else's hands, and they will think a hundred times. And simple militants are just consumables. Having removed them, new ones will be found, in contrast to the top, which values ​​itself.
  7. Lech e-mine
    Lech e-mine 18 December 2012 11: 42
    +3
    I remember in LEBANON even under the SOVIET UNION our special forces pulled out our captives in very cool ways, right up to cutting off the bandits' heads.
    Now the GRU special forces would be very useful here.
    1. sq
      sq 18 December 2012 13: 12
      0
      it’s evident that there was no time to hang these reptiles; cutting off heads for them is the norm.
  8. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 18 December 2012 11: 47
    +2
    Igor Today, 11:07 ↑ ↓ new 0
    Quote: itr
    Well, let's see what our MID will do


    What the Foreign Ministry can do, as they said earlier, they can only negotiate with the official authorities, then only a military operation will help, but only successful otherwise it will be described with delight that they were given such a reason to run over us to help Assad. But if everything is successful, then shut up and think that joking with the Russian Federation is not very profitable.
  9. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 18 December 2012 12: 02
    +1
    delicious spit..there you probably shouldn’t talk and act toughly so that it wouldn’t continue to be wrong, throw a group there and let the kids frolic, I think even volunteers will be found
    1. TRex
      TRex 18 December 2012 12: 16
      +2
      What "group"? The abduction of our citizens should be considered as a reason for the introduction of units of the RF Armed Forces into this area for conducting a search operation, blocking illegal armed groups, ensuring the safety of other Russian citizens living and working in Syria, evacuating civilians and for other humanitarian purposes .. And at least 5-6 brigades ... with air defense, BRAV, etc. according to the full scheme.
      And the "partners" must understand us - they always do this and do not ask anyone.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 18 December 2012 12: 22
        +1
        "Partners" have a very good trump card at home. A huge propaganda machine. And she is now sharpened to drag us into this war, to prevent us from developing, to bleed our economy. And then just destroy us as a state. So it’s impossible to climb there according to the full scheme!
        1. TRex
          TRex 18 December 2012 12: 41
          +1
          Wedmak!
          Then you need to wipe the snot, shut up and start the evacuation of your people, not waiting for them to begin to be cut like sheep.
          And what will our Foreign Ministry say there and what kind of indignation will Comrade Comrade express? Lavrov - no one should be interested. No options?
          Or from the "partners" to take a solemn promise that they are more "no, no" ... but only Assad will be put in the armature - and that's it ...?
          Remember how they swore that NATO would not go east after the reunification of Germany?
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 18 December 2012 13: 04
            +1
            Remember how they swore that NATO would not go east after the reunification of Germany?

            I remember very well. And as for the evacuation, isn’t that why there are 3 BDKs with guards and marines on board off the coast of Syria? And BDK (probably also not one will go) is going there for a walk? The question is different. A short operation to free the hostages (which will only strengthen our positions) or a full-scale invasion, they say, they beat us. Here is the last democrats and seek. Under this case, it will be very easy to open another front against us, this time with real force - first by economic sanctions, and then by democratic bombing.
            1. TRex
              TRex 18 December 2012 13: 37
              0
              Well, about the "democratic bombing" you turned it down, of course ... Although, the devil only knows, who will control Russian nuclear weapons in the future? We still have a couple of "modernizations" of the aircraft and KAPUT in general. The guys will come to the Kremlin for negotiations, and they will come out with our nuclear briefcase ... like "the elder said - drop it!"
              As for the three BDKs - at one time I visited and even went to them. These are boxes of Polish construction. There the length of the tweendeck is 100 meters. Take a reinforced company, no more. And where are the civilians? And the aviation component of the special operation?
              I would not want the losses to be among the boys. In this composition, without support, in a foreign territory ... a problem. By the way, have you heard that the GRU has long been removed from that region? And this - there is no information, no residency - no, there is nothing - the brothers land in a pure field ...
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 18 December 2012 13: 42
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                I would not want the losses to be among the boys. In this composition, without support, in a foreign territory ... a problem.

                Well, actually I didn’t mean the guys from the BDK, these are all the same ground attack aircraft, not special forces. I just expressed that such an operation can be carried out as, where, by whom - these are already some serious issues.

                By the way, have you heard that the GRU has long been removed from that region? And this - there is no information, no residency - no, there is nothing - the brothers land in a pure field ...

                I heard that the GRU was disbanded, or rather significantly reduced. This is a big mistake. And as for the information - how do ours help Assad with intelligence. information? These are the facts.
              2. Retx
                Retx 18 December 2012 15: 48
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                Quote: TRex
                By the way, have you heard that the GRU has long been removed from that region?

                Ha, and who with Lavrov visited Syria and was visiting Assad, m? smile SVR!
                There are Russian agents and special forces there. Only now we need to look at further actions, if our special forces save not only the Russians, but the Italian, then we will have a visor. And still it is necessary to make a "message" to the sheikhs so that there is no thought to kidnap people.
            2. Retx
              Retx 18 December 2012 15: 52
              +1
              The BDK is used as a transport, there are "pills from democracy" on board. We have people who like to check the cargo, but a large landing ship with an escort is not "Alaid" to deprive you of insurance; laughing
        2. Che
          Che 18 December 2012 12: 42
          +2
          Wedmak,
          I don’t need to get in, but I think I really can carry out the transient work of the special forces. And then these guys get nobles for the device of war.
  10. mnbv199
    mnbv199 18 December 2012 13: 18
    +1
    Hello!
    I advise forum participants to watch Marat Musin's interview on Syrian issues
    The transmission is called:
    Analytics Crisis 35 The End of the World - the Beginning of the War
    Be healthy!
  11. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 18 December 2012 13: 55
    +3
    As it was rightly noted here, during the time of the KGB, such issues were resolved up to the application of the most severe measures. During the abduction of our citizens in Lebanon, the hostages were released by sending eggs to the kidnappers of one of the relatives. Now, as one of the options, you can detain the citizens of Qatar or Saudi Arabia and warn that if at least a hair falls from the heads of our people, then your citizens will have a "head ax". In general, do something like this.
    1. Gorchakov
      Gorchakov 18 December 2012 18: 33
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      Quote: Lakkuchu
      As it was rightly noted here when the KGB was, such issues were resolved right up to the application of the most severe measures.

      What you propose is one of the powerful tools to combat bandits ... I think that you can get by not only with the Qatari and Saudis .. but also with the inhabitants of the island and its former colony ... There is nothing to be afraid of, it is time to learn to respect yourself .... Once done, will no longer ....
  12. taurus69
    taurus69 18 December 2012 15: 17
    +2
    10% - that there will be sharp movements such as operations of special services. 90% - that, as always, they will die off (think, one and a half Russian citizens were kidnapped, we have more than 100 million of them, you won’t kidnap everyone)
  13. 120352
    120352 18 December 2012 19: 06
    +1
    How quickly "our" embassy in Syria reacted! Only three days have passed since all the Myrrh news agencies reported this to "ours": right there: "And we also heard about this somewhere." Whether on the radio, or on the Internet, or from the newspapers. Well, in general, they have not yet understood themselves, and it doesn't matter: they disappeared and disappeared. And no one will look for anyone. We are not the United States with you to arrange the rescue of Private Ryan here. We still have a lot of people, half of what was when the Cold War was lost is left. Well, just think, two more people ... Yes, on our roads every day they die ... No, then it's dangerous. And pay the ransom ?! What do you mean! Serdyukov 3 billion + Glonas 7 billion + pipe business in St. Petersburg 3 billion + Skrynnik (chief physician of Switzerland) 40 billion So if for these two more (or twenty, there is no difference), how will we pay our pension? Or not to grab yourself what? You can't think of yourself, who will think of you ?! And that's enough about patriotism! Your shirt ...! Your own hut ...! And generally speaking! The state is no longer there, and you, as you work for it, and do not drag ...
    1. igor67
      igor67 18 December 2012 20: 13
      +1
      The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation published the names of Russian citizens who were abducted in Syria on December 17. It: V.V. Gorelov and Abdessattar Hassun (also having Syrian citizenship). Earlier, the Italian Foreign Ministry reported that, together with the Russians, the Italian engineer Mario Belluomo was kidnapped.

      "All three are employees of the steel production company Khmisho and Co, located in the Hasia industrial zone near Homs," the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

      According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, the abductors are demanding a ransom. The redemption amount is not called.

      The Russian Foreign Ministry "once again confirms the urgent recommendation to all Russian citizens to refrain from visiting Syria, which is going through a period of acute armed internal conflict."

      At the same time, a number of Russian and Western media (in particular, the AFP agency) report that the ships of the Russian Navy were again sent to the Syrian shores to evacuate Russian citizens. The reports say that, according to official figures, about 5.000 Russians are in Syria, but in reality there can be up to 30.000 of them in this country.
  14. igor67
    igor67 18 December 2012 19: 59
    +2
    Russians and Italian kidnapped in Syria, Ankhar Kochneva was "given a chance"

    publication time: 07: 23
    last update: 10: 22





    Syrian militants postponed the execution of Ukrainian journalist Ankhar Kochneva, who was abducted in October. According to them, they were going to kill her on December 16. Prior to that, it was reported that the execution would take place on December 13. However, the commander of the group, Abu Jandal, gave an interview to the Ukrainian TV channel "1 + 1", in which he said that "he gives Kochneva another chance," NEWSru.com reports.

    The militants who kidnapped Ankhar and accuse her of espionage say that the Ukrainian authorities are doing nothing to save the hostage. “This girl stayed with us for a long time, no one answered our appeals when we asked what they could offer us to be released. No one answered, no one seemed to be engaged,” the 1 + 1 TV channel quotes Abu Jandal as saying.

    Abu Jandal did not say what requirements were put forward. Earlier in the media, information was published that the abductors are demanding a ransom of $ 50 million.

    On the evening of December 17, it became known that three more foreigners were abducted in Syria: two Russians, whose names are not yet known, and Italian engineer Mario Belluomo. The abduction was committed near the port city of Latakia. According to the Italian Foreign Ministry, all three worked in a steel mill. The kidnappers have not yet made any demands.

    On the evening of December 12, the militants who captured the Russian-Ukrainian journalist Ankhar Kochneva published another video message in which they said: “The Ukrainian embassy, ​​the Russian embassy, ​​the citizens of these countries, as well as the Iranians will henceforth be the prey and target for all our forces. We urge not to release any Ukrainian, Russian, or Iranian alive from Syria. " This was the reaction of the Syrian militants to the statement of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry regarding the capture of journalist Ankhar Kochneva.

    It was reported last week that the commanders of the so-called "Free Syrian Army" Abu Jandal and Farid Abu Hussein were threatening to kill Kochneva on December 13 if they did not receive a $ 50 million ransom.

    In response to these threats, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said: “Ukraine once again expresses deep concern about the situation around Ankhar Kochneva, which is illegally held in Syria by a group that calls itself a unit of the Free Syrian Army. The Ukrainian side is taking comprehensive measures to release the captured Ukrainian woman at the same level the state, including in cooperation with international partners, and with the involvement of public and religious organizations "(quoted by the Interfax agency).

    Journalist Anhar Kochneva was captured by militants on October 8, presumably near the town of El Quseir, near Homs. On November 7, a video message from Kochneva was posted on the Internet, in which she spoke in Arabic: "My name is Anhar, I am now in the city of Homs, and I ask the Ukrainian and Russian embassies and the Syrian government to fulfill what the kidnappers demand." Nothing was reported about the kidnappers' claims in the appeal.
  15. aspirin02
    aspirin02 18 December 2012 23: 31
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    Hmm ..... And they are responsible for their words, well, let's see what will happen next - here, in the literal sense, a war has been declared between Russia and Ukraine, as the rebels called to catch our citizens. And our Foreign Ministry (Ukrainian) In addition to condemnations and a joint application with the UN and the League of Arab States, is not doing anything. And here it would only be worth frightening alpha ..
    By the way I do not understand why Russia is silent? It is in her interests to send troops there! In your country, Putin adopted the law back in 2008 on the protection of citizens abroad !!!!
  16. 26vova06
    26vova06 19 December 2012 13: 36
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    I think that the liberation operation is of course needed, but the main thing is to do everything clearly and quickly: with the least losses and so that neither the Americans nor the terrorists manage to come to their senses. in addition, it would be useful to work with cruise missiles at the positions of the SSA. in the arsenal of tu95 or tu 160 should there be missiles with a range of 1000-2000 km?