Source: No decisions were made to decommission the heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser Peter the Great

Heavy nuclear missile cruiser "Peter the Great" continues to be in service fleet, no decision was made on its write-off. This was reported by an informed source in the Northern Fleet.

The flagship of the Northern Fleet continues to fulfill its intended tasks, no decision has been made to decommission the cruiser, the ship is planned to be sent for repairs after the Admiral Nakhimov returns to combat strength. According to the source, the Peter the Great is now assessing the amount of work to be done and its cost, and defense industry specialists have been involved to check all internal ship systems, assemblies and equipment.

No decisions were made on the cruiser Peter the Great. It performs tasks for its intended purpose as part of the Northern Fleet

- leads RIA News source words.

Earlier, the Russian press reported that the flagship of the Northern Fleet TARKR "Peter the Great" would be decommissioned after the same type "Admiral Nakhimov", which had undergone a major overhaul and modernization, returned to combat strength. According to the source, the modernization of "Peter the Great" will cost too much, so it will be written off. It was also claimed that most of the cruiser's crew allegedly had already moved to the Admiral Nakhimov.

It is worth noting that both information is unofficial, how things are actually unknown, the Russian Ministry of Defense has not made any statements on this topic.

TARKR "Peter the Great" was laid down at the Baltic shipyard on August 25, 1986, launched on April 25, 1989. In 1992 he received the name "Peter the Great". It entered the Northern Fleet on April 18, 1998. Today - the only "Orlan" project 1144, which is in service. It is the largest nuclear powered non-aircraft operating ship in the world.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

Believe me and the press service of the Federation Council, no one in Severomorsk discusses the topic of decommissioning Peter the Great. This would have come out. I am also not a named source.

[Alex777]

Quote: tralflot1832

Believe me and the press service of the Federation Council, no one in Severomorsk discusses the topic of writing off Peter the Great.

This can not but rejoice.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

The topic of decommissioning TAKR "Peter the Great" is dispersed by TsIPSO.

[Nexcom]

Well, the cissists are lying, and what will change from this? As they decide at the top - so be it.

[Serg65]

Quote: Nexcom

As they decide at the top - so be it.

I'll tell you a secret, decommissioning such a ship is no cheaper than upgrading it!
And this is ... I'm the same unnamed source!

[JD1979]

Quote: Serg65

I'll tell you a secret, decommissioning such a ship is no cheaper than upgrading it!

like two fingers))) It is sold to the Chinese at the price of scrap and that's it)) they themselves will take it away and dispose of it, ... or not)))

[tralflot1832]

The write-off topic is dispersed by journalists - having come up with an excuse "an unnamed source", it's like an artist - I see it that way. It's time to punish such fake journalists. referring to an unnamed source - this already looks like gossip and OBS.

[faiver]

Well, that’s good, it’s not a tricky thing to write off, only where to get cruisers later if we can’t even build destroyers and frigates go with a creak ....

[white fall]

Well, here's what I said. And then Tsipso dispersed the shit through the pipes, miserable pigs

[tralflot1832]

You can go back to the comments of that article and see who our defeatist, alarmist and provacator is and pretends to be a fan of the fleet. I’m sure there will not be such a boom under this article, as under the write-off article. We have a show, only where it’s bad- a where is good, silence.

[Asad]

It turns out all the questions to VO? ..........

[bayard]

Quote: ASAD

It turns out all the questions to VO? ........

If they reprinted without rechecking, without receiving confirmation from the Ministry of Defense or from the command of the Fleet, then yes.
But after all, the MO does not give any details, which is otherwise understandable.
If "Peter" is still going into repair and modernization, then its technical condition is not as deplorable as some sources claimed. Two cruisers are always better than one, but the issue is with the timing and depth of modernization ... and the price. If again 8-10 years, then this is out of the question. Instead, it is better to drive into modernization (to the same capacities) the two remaining BOD pr. 1155 in the Northern Fleet. Their modernization period is approximately 3 - 3,5 years, i.e. The fleet will get the ships into service faster and there will be more ships themselves. But if "Petra" will be modernized according to a reduced program ... Although how is this possible? Not to install such a radar, like the "Nakhimov"? Do not change, but simply repair the air defense system? Do not install "Pantsiri-M" for the near air defense zone? Or even more so - to leave the "main caliber" - the old anti-ship missiles?
In any case, if it is possible to meet the modernization deadline of 5 years and in the amount of 100-120 billion rubles. , it's justified. If 8 - 10 years and 200+ billion rubles. - it's beyond common sense.

[Krasavchag2]

So what is the source? Because on our bench at the entrance, authoritative people "for politics" and even "for geopolitics" also bazaar. Sometimes it comes to non-literary vocabulary. . .

[Georgy Sviridov_2]

It is logical that no one will write off the flagship during the war, it’s another matter that they can not send it for modernization, but write it off after the resource is exhausted ...

[Serg65]

It is worth noting that both information is unofficial, how things are actually unknown

Oh what an interesting twist!
The people are now at a loss, whether to shout Hooray, or Atui them !!!

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Will someone answer for the throw? Whoever maliciously put this information on the net...

[Asad]

And also happily supported.,,,,,,,,,

[Graz]

during the war, you can’t write off and send for cutting any military equipment that is in working order, this is a direct betrayal

[ism_ek]

In fact, something else needs to be discussed.
Why, after only five long trips, is the cruiser in such a deplorable state?
Why do our sailors treat military equipment so much?
Where are the admirals who commanded the ship?
The same age as the nuclear icebreaker Yamal. Only 46 flights to the North Pole and back. There is no mention of write-off at all.
And this is the problem of our fleet. The work of maintaining the courts in good condition has failed completely.
ps For the use of sea water in the ship's cooling system, I would force the ship's commander to drink acetic acid. Well, if it doesn't reach people.

[Serg65]

Quote: ism_ek

For the use of sea water in the ship's cooling system, I would force the ship's commander to drink acetic acid.

Are you the owner of a plant for the production of acetic acid???

[Galleon]

Quote: ism_ek

In fact, something else needs to be discussed.
Why, after only five long trips, is the cruiser in such a deplorable state?
Why do our sailors treat military equipment so much?
Where are the admirals who commanded the ship?
The same age as the nuclear icebreaker Yamal. Only 46 flights to the North Pole and back. There is no mention of write-off at all.
And this is the problem of our fleet. The work of maintaining the courts in good condition has failed completely.
ps For the use of sea water in the ship's cooling system, I would force the ship's commander to drink acetic acid. Well, if it doesn't reach people.

You are asking the right questions. I was also looking for answers to them. Briefly they look like this:
- youth of the crew members, lack of knowledge and skills in maintenance of equipment and mechanisms,
- indifference, unwillingness to perform their duties,
- barbaric attitude to the ship, vandalism of people who are constantly in a state of stress,
- bestial attitude of people to each other, seniors to juniors - this is transferred to the environment.
I would put the last one first.
Look, some RTO or boat will be in better condition than a heavy cruiser, and it will be easier and friendlier to serve on it. And synonyms for the concept of "cruising organization" are stupid drill and humiliation.

[Serg65]

Quote: Galleon

Briefly they look like this:

How wrong are your answers?

Quote: Galleon

youth of crew members, lack of knowledge and skills in maintenance of equipment and mechanisms

It is leveled by the correct approach of the warhead commander to his personnel.

Quote: Galleon

indifference, unwillingness to perform their duties,
- barbaric attitude to the ship, vandalism of people who are constantly in a state of stress,
- bestial attitude of people to each other, seniors to juniors - this is transferred to the environment.

Question to the commander of the ship and the political officer (deputy for educational work)

Quote: Galleon

some RTO or boat will be in better condition than a heavy cruiser, and it will serve on it more friendly and easier

Comparing the management of a crew of 30 people and a crew of 750 people is somehow not fair!

Quote: Galleon

the concept of "cruising organization" is stupid drill and humiliation.

As far as I remember, you served on Senyavin?

[Galleon]

It would probably be impolite to leave your remark unanswered. Therefore, I answer.
I didn't mean to please anyone with the answers.
The correct approach of the commander of the warhead - I agree 100%. But one bull is busy with magazines and tags, and the other with equipment and sailors. The first walks in the front lines, and the second is kicked. Any check will look not at the technique and training, but at the documents. I was lucky, my flagships were big pros and smarties. But not everyone is lucky, you know that even without me.
The comparison is not fair. If on a small ship there are 3-4 short formations per day, and on a large ship 6-8 formations with the removal of the brain. When to do something else? And on special days they build 12 times.
No, not on Senyavin.

[Serg65]

Quote: Galleon

I didn't mean to please anyone with answers.

Like it, don't like it, it's not for me!

Quote: Galleon

Any check will look not at the technique and training, but at the documents.

Any exit to the sea puts everything in its place!

Quote: Galleon

not everyone is lucky, you know that even without me.

Of course, not everyone, as soon as the ship gets up for repairs, everything you described above begins almost immediately!

Quote: Galleon

on a large 6-8 constructions with the removal of the brain. When to do something else?

With regards to Peter ... 513 young stallions of urgent service, this is about 150 years old, which, in turn, will attract +/- 20 half-haired stallions and +/- 40 crucian carp, a total of about 200 individuals who scored for ship service! And how do you want to put this horde in order? You can't do without a kind word without a revolver! Now the picture is different, out of 513 sailors there are 100 conscripts, for the remaining 400 double basses their salary has become a revolver, which is very good! But here are a hundred conscript boys .... 6 decks, 49 corridors of 26 kilometers, the question is ... how to find them and what to do with them? They have a lot of laws on their side, the military prosecutor's office and the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers!
In terms of enlisted personnel, cruising life is a complete moronity! From the point of view of the command staff, a living hell! Where to find the golden mean?

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Look, some RTO or boat will be in better condition than a heavy cruiser, and it will be easier and friendlier to serve on it.

..well, it completely ... depends on the command staff itself ... but on cruisers everything is much more complicated ,,, it’s not that every warhead commander is his own commander and the chiefs of posts .. well, that’s why Moscow drowned

[Serg65]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

.well, that's why Moscow drowned

By the fact that the cruiser?

[Johann Klassen]

This attitude has been in everything since Mikhail Gorbachev came to power.
I served in the Soviet Army in those days and I remember well what happened.
After demobilization, he went to work at the Orsk Mechanical Plant PO Box 12, where "Conversion" flourished like a poppy.
During the Second World War, the Tula Cartridge Plant was evacuated to the Urals, to the city of Orsk.
Less than a month had passed, and the plant was already giving military products to the front.
Gorbachev's conversion, in a short time, essentially destroyed the production of military and civilian products, leaving most of the 15 people who worked at the plant for many years without work.
Under V.V. Putin, the once Order-bearing enterprise ceased to exist forever.
And you wonder what we have come to.
And there were thousands of such enterprises in the city of Orsk and throughout the vast Mother Russia.
They turned out to be no longer needed.

[Galleon]

The journalist wrote the news - it was indignantly discussed and were busy. I wrote the opposite - it is again indignantly discussed. And he sits and laughs. Neighs that they are used to news about the future tense, that they are ready to look for the intrigues of enemies in any feces, that his salary is coming and experience and reputation are growing.
Do you consider such an option, tsipso seekers from the sect of Petrov and Bashirov?

[Sergey39]

Ah, the truth is out there somewhere. In addition to Petrov and Bashirov, "all the weeders" are also present. Our society is broad in its views and beliefs.

[Million]

Are we currently building ships of this class or are we eating up the remnants of the USSR?

[faiver]

no one builds ships of this class, and we are eating away the legacy of a great country

[Sergey39]

They are not building, out of 4 cruisers, only 2 remain. With the destruction of the USSR, the Russian Federation has largely lost its competence in building large-capacity ships. They were built by Nikolaev and Kerch. With nuclear power plants St. Petersburg.
Now they cannot lay down the frigate 22350M (8000-10000 tons), they are waiting for the boathouse to be modernized into two hulls. The next deadline for the boathouse is 2023.

[bayard]

Quote: Sergey39

Now they cannot lay down the frigate 22350M (8000-10000 tons), they are waiting for the boathouse to be modernized into two hulls. The next deadline for the boathouse is 2023.

I think that the delays in laying 22350M are not connected with the boathouse, but with the new power plant. we have just launched the first domestic power plant for 22350 into series, and here we have two turbines per shaft with torque plus ... a task of a new level of complexity. Apparently they bring it.
I think that the delays in work on two UDCs in Kerch are also due to the unavailability of the power plant for them, there should be like four M-70FRUs for two shafts.
And they would have taken Nikolaev with all of Novorossia for themselves in 2014, they would now be building the Fleet at a Chinese pace.

[Sergey39]

Here everything fell into place! And, local opponents, they wrote “everything is gone, the plaster is being removed, the client is leaving ..”, they dispersed the wave of crap pouring on Our Navy.
We must not forget that nuclear installations require the replacement of spent nuclear fuel. The ship was launched in 1989 and accepted into the fleet in 1998. In addition to repairs, it is being modernized according to the experience of Nakhimov, but in a truncated version. He is younger (running) and it looks like they will save money.

[Dva parovoza]

The write-off information also began with the words: "Information from the source." It's so damn convenient - no names for you, no evidence for you, write whatever you want ... Yesterday, "VO" was given a material whose title begins with the words: "The Ministry of Defense reports ...", and then in the material: "three self-propelled guns, two of them self-propelled..."
https://topwar.ru/221785-minoborony-soobschaet-o-prodolzhajuschihsja-popytkah-vsu-prorvat-oboronu-rossijskoj-armii-na-doneckom-napravlenii.htmlм
This is where it needs to be added - there are no analogues. I think this will become a popular meme like "hey, you three are both for me" ...

[George Miloslavsky]

Great. We are waiting for news when another 10 pieces of such ships will be laid.

[Mikhail Ivanov_6]

Tsipsothe topic needs to be dispersed, it will not work for everything paid for

[feropont]

Boys, but we cannot build aircraft carriers of 47 tons ... otherwise four gas carriers of 170 tons will be built on Zvezda and 11 Afromaks of 128 tons is nothing? Pravocation

[AlexWar]

Maybe the repair was simply postponed until the end of the NWO, such ships are not well protected. Where is it then? Now all forces have been thrown into the production of small ships, they are more efficient and can sail along our rivers to Sevastopol.