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The grain deal should be extended on the Crimean bridge

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The grain deal should be extended on the Crimean bridge

What is happening and who benefits from all this in the end? Probably, many today ask themselves (and not only themselves) this question, frankly not understanding the essence of what is happening. And it's really hard to understand what's going on.


Everyone (well, many) is now trying to understand what is happening in terms of such a chain of events as:
Extension of the grain deal - sabotage on the Crimean bridge - suspension of the grain deal.

The fact that the grain deal (hereinafter referred to as the GC) will be extended once again has already been said more than once. The Turkish head voiced this, and, moreover, very coolly demonstrated his independence, releasing the Azov commanders back to Ukraine with a generous hand.

Russia, represented by the Foreign Ministry, today officially notified Turkey, Ukraine and the relevant UN structures of its objection to the extension of the “grain deal”. Voiced by Zakharova.

Russia, represented by the Kremlin, has confirmed that the “grain deal” is closed, but will be resumed when the Russian part of the agreements is completed.” Voiced by Peskov.

There is, however, a nuance. The Russian conditions were not included in the AP itself, they are listed in the Russia-UN memorandum, and have nothing to do with the deal itself. AP - These are Ukraine, Turkey and Russia, and Russia's demands did not apply to these countries at all. Yes, some duality of the situation, but nonetheless.

Russia's withdrawal from the AP with the announcement of the Black Sea area around Crimea as a potentially dangerous territory, the termination of the so-called Black Sea Initiative, the disbandment of the coordination center in Istanbul - this is only the beginning of a political nature.

In principle, Ukraine can say: “Well, okay” and continue at its own risk under Turkish security guarantees. About what is possible further along this line of development of events, we will talk a little lower.

In the meantime, who benefits?


1. Of course, it is beneficial for Ukraine. A shift in focus from the apparent failure of the counter-offensive and the apparent defeat in Vilnius. Sadness in the first case because of the people who died in vain on both sides of the front line and the outright shame of the Zelensky team in the second.

If you figure it out like this, then soon attacking the Crimean bridge will become a kind of trend in Ukraine. With or without a reason, but if with a reason, then the result is still impressive. The Crimean bridge is not just some kind of symbol of the statehood of Russia, it is really a very big and useful work done for people living in Crimea. And yes, each such attack will be properly perceived by certain circles in Ukraine. Yes, we failed another offensive, but we blew up the Crimean bridge! Yes, we were not accepted into the EU again, but we blew up the Bridge for the eighth time, and so on.

That is, a constant victory against the backdrop of a series of evils.

But here we are talking about political gain. In economic terms, Ukraine is just losing. Losing money, losing a lot of money, losing warships in their ports. Illogical, but in general, what kind of logic can we talk about?

2. Very beneficial for Europeans and Turks. Not for everyone, but for grain traders. Those who simply trade in grain. To date, prices have settled at a certain level, and the Ukrainian price, well, was just a little below this average price. That is, you can trade, but the super margin, like last year, did not shine at all.

And here is such a gift! Deal suspended, Black Sea Initiative terminated, offices closed! And prices, of course, go up!

This is not about Ukrainian grain, traders do not care whose grain to trade. They don't give a damn about these people from Africa, to whom this grain was intended. Profit, you know, on such a scale - it is apolitical.

Who doesn't benefit?


1. Again, it is not profitable for Ukraine, for reasons of loss of money and free delivery of weapons. This is an indisputable fact, but why this happened, we will analyze again in the course of the play.

2. Russia. Not only are there economic problems with supply, but military-political ones are also added.

3. Türkiye. Well, the Turks are simply losing money, which are rowing bags on the sale and distribution of Ukrainian grain, without investing a penny.

It turns out, as it were, even strange: whoever benefits, the same is unprofitable, and vice versa. But here everything is simple: everyone earns in different ways.

What should Russia do?


1. To begin with, it would be very good to show in practice that the Crimean bridge can be protected in general and transferred from the status of a simulator for the Armed Forces and the power steering to the status of a strategic facility.


It would seem that the first time was organized with the help of cunning espionage machinations, a huge number of people worked. The bridge was demolished. Were conclusions drawn? Well, so ... They arranged total checks of glove compartments in cars and travel bags, freight transport was driven to the ferry crossing.

Now the bridge is under attack again, with two floating bombs converted from trivial jet skis.


Of course, there are a lot of lies on the Web about self-running waterways and underwater vehicles from Britain, but in reality everything is simple: two jet skis converted in a garage, plus a complete lack of protection of the Bridge - and here is the result.


And they did not hobble across the sea from any Odessa, they launched them from a short distance. But the question arises: where was the protection of the Bridge? In the same place, the ships should guard and patrol, but we were shown them in reports. Here is the ship, it protects the Bridge, everything is under control and reliable protection ...


Something went wrong and not there, because the result is obvious.

So, wait, well, I myself wrote about the chaff on the barge, about how the airspace of the Bridge is guarded ... So, next time they will get hammered from the air, but again we are not ready? Should we prepare for this?

2. Question to the Black Sea the fleet.


Do we even have a fleet? Like a naval one?

I have come across frankly strange fabrications on the Web that it is necessary to close the approaches to the Bridge with booms, they say, this will help and protect from everything floating. Well, on the one hand, yes, but on the other, no. And I will explain about this in the economic block.

The bridge will have to be guarded by ships. Alas, but true. And the area itself will have to be protected. And this is such a place for the sake of which it is possible and necessary to expel everything that can walk and swim from the mooring walls, even if we put all our admirals there. To do business, not wipe your pants. Thank God, at the Bridge "Harpoons", which are so afraid at the headquarters of the KChF, there is nowhere to launch yet.

grain deal. Now the area has been declared dangerous for navigation. And our neighbors will say that they are not afraid of all this and will take their grain to distant shores for dollars. And what about our Red Banner Black Sea? Will everything still stand proudly in Sevastopol and shoot floating mines? Or will he still be able to offer something meaningful to the enemies?

Well, I understand, "Moscow" was drowned, there are almost no ships, and what is left - they will all be busy guarding the Bridge. But there are submarines. Well, it’s politically dumb to send submarines with torpedoes to make holes in the sides of dry cargo ships - so you can just pour mines into the cute area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe Dnieper Liman so that everyone has enough.


The same submarines, they can do it with us.

The first two boats catch mines - three dozen will think.

And what's more convenient - no complaints. It's not us at all, it's last year, when Odessa was mined in hysterics by Ukrainian sailors, that's where it came from.

Here, as they say, there would be a desire to do something, and the rest will follow.

3. Economic question.


The bridge will have to be protected. Minefields, nets, booms and everything else will not work. The explanation is very simple. It lies in the capacity of Russian ports in the Sea of ​​Azov.

Rostov port - 26 million tons per year, including 7 million tons of oil products;
Azov port - 11 million tons per year, transportation of oil products is not carried out;
Taganrog port - 3 million tons per year, transportation of oil products is not carried out.
A total of 40 million tons of cargo per year, of which 7 million tons are oil products.

A little, right?

The largest and, in fact, until recently the only Russian Black Sea cargo port Novorossiysk handled about 208 million tons of cargo per year. Impressive?


However, of this huge amount, the lion's share, that is, 161 million tons, is oil products! And the share of dry cargo, which mainly consists of standard containers and grain, is only 38 million tons.

And in order to redirect traffic from the Sea of ​​Azov to the Black Sea, the throughput of the Novorossiysk port will have to be doubled in terms of dry cargo. And it's not as easy as it seems.

4. Military technical issue


This is already being continued, since it concerns not only the KChF. In fact, why are there no now angry accusations against the military, who clearly did not see the danger and frankly "blundered" these kamikaze boats?

Three o'clock in the morning. It's still dark. How were the defenders of the Bridge supposed to see these objects? This is actually a very difficult question!

Anyone who has ridden a jet ski will immediately understand what is at stake. The maximum how much it will protrude from the water is a meter. Sound - yes. Footprint on the water - yes, but what's the point in the dark? In reality, you can’t really catch it with a radar either from the shore or from the ship, the engine is in the water, the body is plastic, and so on. Really difficult target.

Moreover, I applaud the Ukrainians. Converting such a common toy into a kamikaze drone was well thought out. Very sensible. How many such gizmos cut through the waves of the Black Sea and the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov cannot be counted. They are brought from all over the country to show off and break away.


And we really have practically no funds to track and fight such a dirty trick as a sea drone. Not even submersible, ordinary.

What is the best way to spot this? Naturally, observation from the air. Or a satellite, but a plane or a helicopter is better. You can’t order a satellite to inspect the desired square if it has already flown further. The plane can be returned.

But alas, our marine aviation, and even more so, the belongings of the KChF, are simply not able to do this. You know, there are no complaints here either, just a statement that the country's naval pilots in all fleets have at their disposal two dozen Il-38s and the same number of Tu-142s. In terms of their characteristics, like anti-submarine aircraft and reconnaissance aircraft, they do not stand up to criticism and are long outdated.


I do not know if the ancient radar equipment of these aircraft (by the way, mainly based on the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet) is capable of detecting small targets, but if at least half of these aircraft are transferred to the Krasnodar Territory, then it is possible to organize at least patrols with visual observation. Although at night there is zero sense from him.

And judging by the peppy reports, the development and production of new anti-submarine and reconnaissance aircraft for naval aviation is not even in the plans.

The same applies to AWACS aircraft, which, by the way, can also be an effective means of detecting small-sized semi-submersible targets. These planes are generally very easy to deal with surface targets, but alas, we also have problems here. Nine A-50 (A-50U) aircraft, assembled in the eighties of the last century and now partially modernized, due to their modest number, are not able to solve all tasks and meet all the needs of the Russian Armed Forces.

I don’t want to talk about the A-100 anymore, the aircraft is still at the stage of testing a single copy. If anything, he should have been in the army back in 2016, but so far in 2023, the prospects are still not comforting.

That is, there is nothing to detect dangerous small-sized aircraft and direct attack aircraft and artillery of ships at them.

So the only effective way you can try to save the Bridge is with World War I-style booms, observers with binoculars and machine guns?

And the termination of cargo traffic from the Azov Sea to the Black Sea and back?

But it’s also impossible to just take and leave the situation to its own devices. Our superblogger can arbitrarily threaten the whole world with a nuclear attack, but the Bridge must be protected. Otherwise, the moment may come when you can hear such dialogues: “What's new? - Yes ... Again they hit the Crimean bridge - Ah, well, clearly ... ”.


And the Ukrainians will beat. This is clear and understandable, because for them the Bridge is a symbol. The same as for us, only with the opposite sign. Plus, as the practice of two successful attacks has shown, attacking the Bridge effectively is not so difficult.

The question remains only the question of why Ukrainians need it. Political profit is minimal. The land road, which is not without flaws (such as the possibility of shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine), still exists. Of course, using it to move on vacation - it personally looks so-so from my point of view, but ours, who “I can’t live without sea and sun,” cannot be convinced. And they replenished mournful lists, replenish and will replenish until the very end of the NWO.

However, the attack on Most, followed by Russian attacks are still verbal - they only raised the price of grain. If Russia is really able to block the export of grain "for the poor hungry children of Africa" ​​- this will be one scenario.

If everything will be like after the first attack, that is, they will scare and continue to “help starving children in Africa” in exchange for unblocking Rosselkhozbank in the international system, then yes, the extension of the grain deal should be signed on the Crimean bridge closed for repairs. It will be symbolic, at least in the spirit of the moment.

True, all this does not relieve the duties of guarding and defending the Bridge.
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  1. strelec69
    strelec69 18 July 2023 05: 28
    +35
    Author, do you really think that so many explosives can be loaded onto a jet ski to blow up a bridge from the bottom?
    1. Mikhail Drabkin
      Mikhail Drabkin 18 July 2023 05: 33
      +6
      transfer the Bridge ... to the status of a strategic object.

      Protecting a strategic facility is a strategic task.

      It includes long-range reconnaissance - a high probability of knowing about the launch site, construction, performance characteristics of carriers ... about launching from a mobile carrier ship ...

      Multi-level protection of the object, including counterintelligence from the side of the Azov coast, operational reconnaissance of the protective zone of the water area along the entire length of the Bridge, air defense systems ...

      Active defense by the Black Sea Fleet, including blocking the coast of Ukraine - which is unlikely. Therefore, the initiative will continue to belong to Ukraine, with all the consequences...

      The possibility of launching carriers from a mobile carrier means a continuous threat to the Bridge (and after preventing Ukraine's access to the Black Sea in full, including river routes).

      We will not learn about long-range reconnaissance, we can plan on the role of the Black Sea Fleet - count on protecting the object along the water area - in solid sediment - operational reconnaissance and passive defense of the Bridge, unfortunately ....
      1. Mikhail Ivanov
        Mikhail Ivanov 18 July 2023 06: 04
        +9
        For this bridge, the leader has already been removed, to sense ...
      2. Galleon
        Galleon 18 July 2023 10: 41
        -6
        For the money that was poured into the bridge, it was possible to dig 2 tunnels. But then it would not be visible how the truck rolled in the tunnel. They made a bridge.
        1. ZAV69
          ZAV69 18 July 2023 15: 06
          +2
          In the forum, Claudia is not to be trampled on tossing bags.
        2. bootlegger
          bootlegger 19 July 2023 01: 18
          +6
          After the explosion of a truck with explosives, the tunnel would have to be dug anew, and not change a couple of spans. In addition, in the explosion in the tunnel, everyone would have drowned, not the couple in the car.
      3. Starmeh38
        Starmeh38 18 July 2023 15: 54
        -4
        It's time to make a full filling with soil along the entire line of the bridge crossing, except for the gate entrance. So it is easier to protect the Crimean bridge and maintenance will be much cheaper.
        1. former soldier
          former soldier 19 July 2023 10: 02
          +2
          It's time to make a full filling with soil along the entire line of the bridge crossing, except for the gate entrance. So it is easier to protect the Crimean bridge and maintenance will be much cheaper.

          No way. For the migration of marine life, the navigable alignment is not enough.
          1. Starmeh38
            Starmeh38 21 July 2023 22: 47
            0
            Can be combined with large breakwaters - underwater channels - lattice type
      4. AdAstra
        AdAstra 18 July 2023 17: 20
        +2
        Well then, obviously, the Kremlin is not a strategic object for us if it was admitted that it flew over it. hi
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 18 July 2023 05: 48
      +27
      The fact that the bridge was blown up on the eve of the decision to extend the grain deal (before and not after) suggests bad thoughts that we are being chased by flags.

      Someone is trying their best to pit us against Turkey. And this is working out well, given Erdogan's latest tricks with the Azov people and his agreement to accept Sweden into NATO. Russia's rejection of the grain deal will add even more uncertainty to Russian-Turkish relations. And how it will end, knowing the tough temper of our "bosom Turkish friend", only God knows.
      1. Vladimir80
        Vladimir80 18 July 2023 07: 55
        +6
        I agree about the flags - otherwise it’s unlikely, Turkey is part of NATO, we won’t compete with them 100%, now everything will calm down and steamers will continue to sail along the Black Sea to Odessa and back ....
    3. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 18 July 2023 08: 34
      +9
      Author, do you really think that so many explosives can be loaded onto a jet ski to blow up a bridge from the bottom?
      He really thinks so. For a long time he did not write about aviation. Maybe write more...
    4. JD1979
      JD1979 18 July 2023 09: 15
      +3
      Quite, with a carrying capacity of up to 300 kg, more explosives can be loaded there than in the FAB 500, and an explosion in a narrow space under the bridge deck will further enhance the effect.
    5. Gorynych_1977
      Gorynych_1977 18 July 2023 09: 43
      +5
      Why not? OF or an alternative explosive, or an identical mixture, with a cumulative cone below and voila. The supports are intact, the span is simply displaced and fell. OF, not plastid, because the span is whole. Plastid would have blown both the support and the span
    6. Romanovski
      Romanovski 18 July 2023 12: 19
      +6
      Yesterday, in the area of ​​​​the village of Heroiskoye, in the Kherson direction, guys from the 80th Arctic brigade shot down an enemy "bayraktar", — TGC Iron Helmets

      Immediately after Russia did not allow the farce called the "grain deal" to continue, Erdogan resumed deliveries of "bayaktars" to Ukraine, which once again showed that Turkey cannot even be a situational ally.
      1. Paul Siebert
        Paul Siebert 18 July 2023 13: 32
        +3
        Quote from Romanovski
        Immediately after Russia did not allow the farce called the “grain deal” to continue, Erdogan resumed deliveries of “bayaktars” to Ukraine,

        Poems about the "grain deal" with xoxls:
        rye rye,
        Oats will oat...
        The fireball is on fire!
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  3. parusnik
    parusnik 18 July 2023 05: 48
    +13
    So, by the way, earlier AN-2 was used for fish reconnaissance, often such applications had to be accepted during the period of service, now there is no AN-2 and there are no fish in the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov ..
  4. Belisarius
    Belisarius 18 July 2023 05: 49
    +30
    Only the surprise of the author is surprising. Understanding what is happening is simple: the political line of the power of the Russian Federation is unchanged - the recognition of the Zelensky government and the search for agreements with it (and through them with the governments of the West). Moreover, agreements on very favorable terms for them, let me remind you that the Chinese formula of peace assumes the territorial integrity of Ukraine, that is, the opponents are separated along the de facto front line, and de jure it will still be Ukraine for the whole world. Accordingly, everything that does not fit into this line becomes impossible. The Black Sea Fleet and aviation, even in their current state, could ensure the blockade of Odessa and attacks on port infrastructure, but this is contrary to the search for agreements - therefore they are inviolable, and the Russian authorities conclude a grain deal that is extremely unprofitable for it (like many others) and complains about the fun of the whole world that she was again deceived. Another thing is that the Russian authorities have driven themselves into a bad infinity, because the enemy is not only not going to negotiate, but also perceives such a policy of the Russian Federation as a reason for further raising rates. That is, in order to get the coveted "agreement" you just need to go beyond the limits into which the authorities of the Russian Federation have driven themselves. But they cannot do this, well, etc. in a circle.
    It is in this stupid infinity that we live. With regard to the bridge, the enemy will only stop attacking the bridge when he knows that measures will follow in response that exceed the benefits of undermining it, for example, a real blockade of seaports and the destruction of port and other infrastructure.
    Now we have withdrawn from the grain deal, and rightly so, but these are just words. Let's see what things will be.
    1. Boris Sergeev
      Boris Sergeev 18 July 2023 08: 42
      +21
      By the way, the second successful strike on the Crimean bridge (a week ago it was also attacked by missiles shot down near Kerch) and not a single strike on the bridges across the Dnieper. Business and nothing personal... No matter what Medvedev says about the "judgment day".
      1. Belisarius
        Belisarius 18 July 2023 13: 02
        +3
        Quote: Boris Sergeev
        By the way, the second successful strike on the Crimean bridge (a week ago it was also attacked by missiles shot down near Kerch) and not a single strike on the bridges across the Dnieper. Business and nothing personal...

        Well, bridges, at least this is a difficult object to attack, at least for our aircraft that does not fly further than LBS. Here you can somehow justify yourself .. Here it is more significant that no one even thinks of attacking those strategic objects that can be destroyed without problems, such as the Kremenchug Oil Refinery (last year in the spring it flew a little and everything is as it worked, so-so and works).
        In general, military moments are added to the political moments about which I wrote, as a result of which the situation is dynamically deteriorating. At the beginning of the operation, if there was political will, and even with all our problems, we could take Kyiv and solve the problem with the Maidan government. Now the capture of Kyiv is already impossible, the ceiling of our capabilities is to repel the offensive and then, ideally, somehow squeeze the enemy out of the Donbass.
        The same in particular, at the beginning of the operation we could block the Black Sea coast without any problems, no one would have twitched. Now there are doubts about this and no one believes in the determination of the Russian Federation to act. Today, finally, as a response to the bridge, they hit the port infrastructure - the right thing to do, but so far this is only one blow.
        The enemy has already stated that he will conduct courts without the participation of the Russian Federation in the deal, and they will also try to involve Turkey in this .. And then a simple question arises - what will we do in this case?
        1. Alexander Simonov_2
          Alexander Simonov_2 18 July 2023 13: 39
          +7
          A difficult object to attack? Why would? When it was necessary to put the Antonov bridge, they put it right away! A massive launch of several missiles at one point (even considering the quo) is guaranteed to destroy the bridges, thereby creating such problems for the whole, after which they will be FORCED to roll back across the Dnieper. And there already half of the territory of Ukraine will be behind us. This gives a serious strategic advantage!
          1. Belisarius
            Belisarius 18 July 2023 16: 46
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Simonov_2
            A difficult object to attack? Why would? When it was necessary to put the Antonov bridge, they put it right away! A massive launch of several missiles at one point (even considering the quo) is guaranteed to destroy bridges

            You are an idealist. That's good, but the reality is tougher. Yes, indeed the main reason why no one is trying to attack bridges is the "policy of agreements". But besides this, for our army, bridges across the Dnieper is a really difficult goal. We blew up the Antonovsky bridge because we controlled it. When retreating. Dill could only damage it, and thus extremely impede movement. For this they used a huge number of high-precision Chimeras, etc. We do not have them.
            Moreover, the SVO showed that our aviation, as a result of the powerful "re-equipment" named after Putin-Shoigu, has practically no guided weapons that could attack targets outside the enemy's air defense zone with acceptable accuracy. Which we also cannot suppress. Only now planning bombs have begun to appear. It was possible to try to sell the enemy with the number of aircraft and attack the bridges themselves up close, but we also have problems with the number of aircraft. Considering that there is more than one bridge, they do not dare to do this.
            We don't have saboteurs there either - we don't have any "power departments" doing real work. Probably, a combination attack will work - Iskanders plus KR, plus planning bombs. You can think of something, if there is a desire. But bridges are a difficult goal.
            And the trouble is that do not touch and simple .
    2. Il'nur
      Il'nur 18 July 2023 11: 14
      +10
      to the amusement of the whole world, she complains that she has been deceived again.

      I never get tired of writing that our "guarantor" has the psychology of the cat Leopold, with his statement: "let's live together", no matter how something is done that the "partners" in the west and "friends" in the country will not like .. .
      And he is not a judoist, as he was promoted, a judoist, if possible, will immediately throw an ippon so that the enemy cannot even twitch, and he is not a yard fighter when he said: “If a fight is inevitable, you must strike first”, if you strike first, then hit should be irresistible, otherwise, it struck first, but the strike was not prepared, neither militarily, nor organizationally, nor economically, nor materially ... They hit just to take it in fear, but they weren’t scared, now we have what we have ...
      1. Vladimir80
        Vladimir80 18 July 2023 11: 51
        +6
        or maybe everything is simpler, they called and said - "we know where and in what country your children live ..."
    3. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 18 July 2023 13: 17
      +3
      Surprisingly, only the surprise of the author.
      Already for 5 years, if not more, I have ceased to be surprised at the surprise of the author, on so many topics and things. hi The author understands everything, but continues to be "surprised".
  5. Mikhail Ivanov
    Mikhail Ivanov 18 July 2023 06: 01
    +13
    It's not about protecting the bridge! It's in the head of the leader! He still continues to dream...
    1. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 18 July 2023 08: 56
      +7
      It's in the head of the leader! He still continues to dream...
      He has been dreaming for 23 years
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 18 July 2023 10: 46
        +6
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        It's in the head of the leader! He still continues to dream...
        He has been dreaming for 23 years

        If you and I knew how many billions he dreamed of for himself over these 23 years, we would understand the difference between dreams and illusions.
        1. nepunamemuk
          nepunamemuk 18 July 2023 14: 09
          +3
          what is the use of these billions if even in "friendly" South Africa they threaten to take him to The Hague sad
      2. Il'nur
        Il'nur 18 July 2023 11: 31
        +10
        He has been dreaming for 23 years

        I don’t know what he dreams of, but not about the well-being of citizens, if these residents are forced to live on a “living wage”, collect funds for the treatment of children, instead of developing industry and their production, creating jobs, is engaged in import substitution, but about that that the country has become a raw materials appendage, then there is nothing to say ...
  6. AlexWar
    AlexWar 18 July 2023 06: 05
    +2
    Let the nets be stretched, you can scatter them even closer to the border of Ukraine
    It was possible to make signal buoys and pull nets
    It was possible to put sound sensors on the buoys, with video fixators, like tripods are placed on the roads
  7. FoBoss_VM
    FoBoss_VM 18 July 2023 06: 12
    +13
    Until the war goes on according to agreements and not on the result and victory, until then there will be attacks on the Crimean bridge, and on Engels, and on the Kremlin. And if it continues in the same way, then there will be attacks on Vidyaevo, Sevmash, Uvz, Velyuchinsk, Arzamas and Gadzhiyevo. Everything has its time
    1. Alexander Simonov_2
      Alexander Simonov_2 18 July 2023 13: 42
      +8
      The most sensible comment. As long as there is war for the sake of war, there will be nothing worthwhile. Until they figure out what they want up there, this garbage will last forever. This is well illustrated by the lack of preparation of serious reserves in order to develop an offensive. Smart people believed that in this situation, in order to KEEP the front line normally, with rotations and the established second and third echelons, at least 850 thousand people are needed. What can we say about the offensive. Really in muddy games any play.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 18 July 2023 14: 37
        +11
        Quote: Alexander Simonov_2
        What can we say about the offensive. Really in muddy games any play.

        This is on the surface.
        And imagine that one and a half to two million strong army that went through a school of military operations in a situation of confrontation with various security structures that continue to protect those in power, those who simply have and those in power ... You can’t disperse the National Guard with such batons ... These are not students and not women of a slender constitution.
        The bourgeois government is a priori afraid that the people will regain control of the country ...
        * * *
        As for the VVP brigade with all its protégés like Kiriyenko, Chubais, Medvedev, Matvienko and other “edros”, throughout their reign they create many times more problems than they can solve. Frank love for high monetary security can only speak of the commercialism of the interests with which they came to rule the country.
        Incapacity, incompetence, outright cowardice, deceit - these are a few of their characteristics.
      2. Andrey Dibrov
        Andrey Dibrov 19 July 2023 21: 56
        0
        Quote: Alexander Simonov_2
        The most sensible comment. As long as there is war for the sake of war, there will be nothing worthwhile. Until they figure out what they want up there, this garbage will last forever. This is well illustrated by the lack of preparation of serious reserves in order to develop an offensive. Smart people believed that in this situation, in order to KEEP the front line normally, with rotations and the established second and third echelons, at least 850 thousand people are needed. What can we say about the offensive. Really in muddy games any play.

        Everyone rots the same Piontkovskys, but everything was voiced quite clearly there - the answer is immediate.
        That's why I'm green in any way. And no Kiev for three days, because. for this, not a hundred February thousand - but no one would have allowed millions to be collected then, they would have waved in Kyiv a nuclear suitcase under the tree for the new year 2022
  8. Edward Vashchenko
    Edward Vashchenko 18 July 2023 06: 13
    +13
    I am walking along a Moscow street and observing the situation, there is a car entrance at the hotel: the security service with a metal detector carefully inspects the car, correctly, but clearly, in general, they do their job.
    Further, past the entrance to the state institution, guarded by a sergeant with blue shoulder straps. With laziness, slowly, with his left heel, he inspects cars, with a look that says at the same time: here's another, I need it, I'm doing nonsense, created for something more. Only a cigarette in the teeth is missing and a cap on the back of the head.
    Here's everything you need to know about it...
  9. yuri bakster
    yuri bakster 18 July 2023 06: 14
    +3
    for an attack on the Crimean bridge, to destroy a couple of bridges in Ukraine, you can start, for example, from Darnitsa in Kyiv ..... hunting will immediately disappear
  10. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 18 July 2023 06: 23
    +2
    Your proposals do not cancel Russia's obligation to respond aggressively
  11. Thrifty
    Thrifty 18 July 2023 06: 38
    +3
    The novel problem can be solved by creating the Azov military flotilla with deployment in Taganrog and Mariupol. A dozen high-speed armored boats armed with 57 and 30mm caliber guns and equipped with copters to monitor the surrounding area. Place three units near the bridge and change them every 2 weeks. So that they do not anchor there, but constantly walk around the bridge at low speed. Then the Komikadze boats will be easier to detect and drown.
    1. Il'nur
      Il'nur 18 July 2023 11: 42
      +6
      the problem can be solved

      It is possible, if there is a will and desire for it. If you look at how the SVO is going, and the consequences of its conduct, then this strange war is not going to win, but pursues some incomprehensible goals, if it were aimed at winning, then the actions would be appropriate, and there would be no explosion of the bridge , no shelling of border areas, no victims of Russian citizens ...
      1. Andrey Dibrov
        Andrey Dibrov 19 July 2023 22: 06
        0
        Quote: Ilnur
        the problem can be solved

        It is possible, if there is a will and desire for it. If you look at how the SVO is going, and the consequences of its conduct, then this strange war is not going to win, but pursues some incomprehensible goals, if it were aimed at winning, then the actions would be appropriate, and there would be no explosion of the bridge , no shelling of border areas, no victims of Russian citizens ...

        Well, there the geostrategists are already "muddying" about the West for wear and tear, after which (with the resetting of the Ukrainians) we waddled half a million all the way to Poland ... - and they, like, will have nothing to answer except for the mounted police. Because vlom Western capitalists to unfold the military industry in a big way because of a couple of years. This is not the auto industry with McDucks.
        That's why we pull. The version is geopolitically relevant, but not very promising in the long term. All the same, they will begin to competently arm themselves with the sly and already (!) Without unnecessary gestures, taking into account the whole situation. With guaranteed avoidance of jambs.
  12. Volunteer Marek
    Volunteer Marek 18 July 2023 06: 42
    +10
    A rare case when I did not have critical remarks to the content of the article. Well, except to blame that it is written too diplomatically. Reality, however, requires harsher and harsher words. And, most importantly - business. That's precisely the case and not enough, sorely lacking. But, this question is not for the author. And, you know to whom.
  13. Kuziming
    Kuziming 18 July 2023 06: 45
    +16
    Let's break it down into two groups of questions:
    A. Technical:
    1. You can hear the jet ski. Acoustic intelligence has been known for over a hundred years.
    2. A jet ski won't carry as much explosives in my limited view. Especially from the surface of the water, let the more wise calculate the mass of the charge.
    B. Strategic.
    1. Ukraine exports its/not its grain.
    - The question is, ships of third countries appear in the port of the country in whose territory we conduct NBO. We are not at war with these countries, they are not parties to the conflict.
    In my opinion, the maximum that we can do is to use these ships to torpedo the enemy's port area under their cover. But rockets are easier. Attacking ships of third countries is a dubious undertaking.
    - Ukraine will be left without grain for the winter - this is its headache for this winter.

    In summary, we do not have reliable levers, and there is a special need to stop the export of grain from the ports of Ukraine.

    The military issue of reconnaissance and the destruction of terrorist infrastructure can be solved by other methods.

    2. Russia sells its grain, ammonia and other strategic goods.
    But here we have the opposite, all the levers are there. But with the stubbornness of maniacs, we are in a hurry to get rid of our grain.
    In my opinion, grain should be used for the production of compound feed, and the development of our own agriculture in the Russian North and the Far East.
    Dairy farming in Vologda and Arkhangelsk, pig farming in the Far East, pond fish farming in the middle lane.
    3. The same applies to gas. Reduce sales to Europe, increase use at home.
    Setting up the production of prefabricated greenhouses with gas heating, modular cowsheds, all this is now quite realistic. Yes, you need to work, provide jobs for your people.
    Selling to foreigners is easier.

    But the time for simple solutions is over.

    This will be a solution to the problem of developing their territories, and improving nutrition, and raising living standards, and will improve demography.
    1. Rusfaner
      Rusfaner 18 July 2023 08: 13
      +1
      2. A jet ski won't carry as much explosives in my limited view. Especially from the surface of the water, let the wiser ones calculate the mass of the charge. (C)
      What if you tow? Remember the rivers: barges with thousands of tons of cargo and tugboats - nothing, they go!
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 18 July 2023 14: 49
      +9
      Quote from Kuziming
      Selling to foreigners is easier.

      Trade in Russia has acquired hypertrophied development. I sold (albeit a pig in a poke) goods - received money - snatched my share - saved until better times (preferably in currency, business or some kind of real estate) ...
      Remember how the USSR became a world power ... Look at how China achieved power ... Russia became completely dependent on the trade in resources (raw materials) ...
      We cannot make machine tools, we have a patriarchal production, we do not know how to process what we get ...
      You just need to change the economic structure ... From animal to socially just ...
    3. Ivan F
      Ivan F 18 July 2023 15: 49
      +1
      "A jet ski will not carry so much explosives, in my limited opinion. Especially from the surface of the water," - well, 300 kg. lucky even for those. passport. But you are mistaken about water - as you hope to remember, water is incompressible and the maximum shock wave from an explosion on its surface will go just in the opposite direction from the water .. Just into the spans of the bridge.
  14. AA17
    AA17 18 July 2023 06: 55
    +8
    The novel, as always, highlighted the topical issues related to the NWO.
    The most important question:
    ...and we are not ready again?...


    And what was Russia ready for, starting the NWO?
    Will we try to fight and at the same time we will not change our way of life? (Now I'm going to work. The TV is playing in the background, the program "Morning of Russia", where they tell how fun the people had a rest at VK Fest 2023 in Moscow. This causes irritation and annoyance to me.)

    ... And the Ukrainians will beat. This is clear and understandable, because for them the Bridge is a symbol....

    And it looks ridiculous: Ukraine destroys once again, Russia restores. Until when?
    To prevent the Ukrainians from being beaten, there is a very simple recipe - they must be defeated or moved 500 km along the perimeter from the bridge. Is Russia ready for this?
    I already wrote yesterday, I will repeat it again.
    The NWO will end when the European bourgeoisie and the Russian bourgeoisie decide that it is no longer profitable to fight further.
    “...Look at the capitalists: they are trying to kindle national enmity among the “common people”, while they themselves are doing their business perfectly ...”
    IN AND. Lenin, PSS v.23 p.176, "Nationalization of the Jewish School".
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 18 July 2023 11: 15
      -1
      Quote: AA17
      “...Look at the capitalists: they are trying to kindle national enmity among the “common people”, while they themselves are doing their business perfectly ...”
      IN AND. Lenin, PSS v.23 p.176, "Nationalization of the Jewish School".

      Written by the author of the concept of sovereign nation-states as the basis of the USSR, anti-Russian internationalism of the "oppressed nations" and the man on whose ideas the Ukrainian state, separate from Russia, with its own language and history, was created and maintained. smile
  15. Krasavchag2
    Krasavchag2 18 July 2023 07: 08
    +1
    Wikipedia about jet skis:
    A hydrocycle (jet ski, scooter, less often a jet ski) is a high-speed personal water vehicle (watercraft) with a stationary internal combustion engine, designed to move by gliding on the water surface. Jet skis are usually up to three meters long and load capacity up to 300 kilogramscan reach speeds up to 200 km/h.

    Question: Can 300 kg of explosives move the span of the Crimean bridge? Or is it a fantastic S-5 or S-10 explosive? Hollywood movies still have C-4
  16. Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 18 July 2023 07: 52
    +6
    but what to discuss, there will be no answer, we depict actions in the "legal field", we urge and worry ...
    puppets sit firmly on the hook of Western intelligence services and will not act in the interests of the people and the country!
    1. Il'nur
      Il'nur 18 July 2023 11: 50
      +3
      puppets sit firmly on the hook of Western intelligence services and will not act in the interests of the people and the country!

      This is not visible with an armed eye, otherwise it is not possible to understand the actions of our leaders, who say one thing from the screen, but act only not in the interests of the country ..
  17. Andrey the Magnificent
    Andrey the Magnificent 18 July 2023 08: 31
    +12
    Until we start fighting for real, with the destruction of decision-making centers in Kiev, bridges across the Dnieper, the banking system of Ukraine, we stop paying and drive gas through Ukraine, the destruction of all refineries - all this is disgusting with our country and with our people in Belgorod, Donetsk , Kursk, Bryansk, Lugansk and Crimea will continue!!!
    But ...
    Not with these "warlords" (((

    PS Evil is simply not enough, I can hardly find censorship words !!!
    The family went to the sea, that as a result, young parents died, and the girl is an orphan (((


    By the way, does our “guarantor” in the Kremlin still remember Kherson, the regional center of the Russian Federation!?
    And then there is such a bad impression that the “guarantor” and the whole shobla with him have been forgotten about the territorial integrity in general! ??
    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 18 July 2023 08: 40
      +3
      Is a person reading from a teleprompter that they wrote that they pestered a person?
    2. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 18 July 2023 08: 53
      +4
      Until we start to fight for real
      "We have not yet begun to fight for real" (c)
      1. Il'nur
        Il'nur 18 July 2023 11: 56
        +5
        "We have not yet begun to fight for real" (c)

        Something tells me that they won't "fight for real" ...
    3. Il'nur
      Il'nur 18 July 2023 11: 54
      +3
      young parents died, and the girl is an orphan (((

      I also think about it with bitterness, the girl could have had more sisters and brothers, but she remained an orphan, alone with all the hardships of reality, with fear for the future ...
  18. Adrey
    Adrey 18 July 2023 08: 32
    +4
    I'll throw my 5 cents into the discussion of the topic. Moreover, they will be slightly different from the general mood. laughing.
    Well, yes, the enemy attacked the Crimean bridge for the next (second) time, and again relatively successfully. From all the "irons" it immediately started: "They screwed up again! They don't catch flies! Guards are not enough and they are put out of their hands!"
    But what's interesting. Having weapons available ("Shadow of the Storm," Scalp "quite have the necessary characteristics, and you can try to bring the carriers to the range of use (drones generally flew to Maskva, enemies can do it)) or expecting them in the near future (ATACM), yes and "crafts" in the form of repurposed S-200s should not be discounted, the enemy both times uses "near-war", absolutely sabotage means (truck, jet skis). It is naive to think that the enemy does not have information about the measures to protect the object on which everyone rides not laziness, and apparently, based on this knowledge, he uses these methods, which in turn indicates a fairly reliable protection of the bridge from "traditionally military" means of destruction.
    And for the capture of spies and saboteurs, we are not responsible for the Ministry of Defense, the Navy and the Russian Guard
    1. Funelick
      Funelick 18 July 2023 10: 36
      0
      Maybe so, although I suppose that in doing they could have destroyed this bridge a long time ago. It's more about risk and politics than protection.
  19. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 18 July 2023 08: 51
    +3
    The question is, how long will the rejection of the grain deal last...
  20. Beaver
    Beaver 18 July 2023 09: 14
    +8
    But we will hold a parade on the day of the fleet, if it is wrong a hundred times
  21. Maks1995
    Maks1995 18 July 2023 09: 46
    +3
    All this smacks of hypocrisy.
    As if one can hit bridges, buildings, roads, and the other - well, it's simply impossible, no way, that's all.

    In real life, there are always at least 2 teams playing.
    And if there are Russians (according to Putin) and Russians here, then there can definitely be no one-sided games. Both blunders and problems are similar.

    And the players are helped by a lot of people around. this is always the case, there is nothing hypocritically surprised.
    And if the members of the CIS and Belarus didn’t even recognize Crimea, and introduced a criminal offense for the participation of citizens in the NWO, (as well as a criminal offense for mercenarism, we also have us), then something is not right .... which everyone already knows for a long time ...
    1. Lord Zedd
      Lord Zedd 18 July 2023 19: 46
      -1
      Someday you will understand all this. I believe in it.
  22. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 18 July 2023 11: 11
    +2
    This is already being continued, since it concerns not only the KChF. In fact, why are there no now angry accusations against the military, who clearly did not see the danger and frankly "blundered" these kamikaze boats?

    Hehehehe ... the author attacked the military, but somehow forgot about the department, which is actually responsible for the direct protection of the bridge from land and sea. Here are the news for 2019:
    SIMFEROPOL, March 26 - RIA Novosti Crimea. The National Guard formed a special naval brigade in Kerch to protect the Crimean bridge. This was announced by the director of the Russian Guard, General of the Army Viktor Zolotov, writes RIA Novosti.
    "To ensure the security of the strategically important Crimean bridge connecting the peninsula with the Krasnodar Territory, a special naval brigade has been formed in Kerch," he said.
    According to Zolotov, the brigade has a large arsenal of means capable of preventing any sabotage both from land and from the water area.

    To protect the Bridge from the sea, the 39th Marine Detachment was formed in the RG with four boats, pr. 21980.
    The fourth and last in the Grachonok series of anti-sabotage boats, built in the interests of the Federal Service of the Russian Guard under the contract for the supply of four boats for the Kerch Brigade, guarding the Crimean Bridge, was launched at the Rybinsk Shipyard. The contract was concluded at the end of the 2017 year with the delivery date for the boats by November 1 2019 year.
    As stated in the brigade, all boats will be commissioned before the end of this year.
    © VO. "The fourth "Rook" was launched to guard the Crimean bridge." 2019

    You know, there are no complaints here either, just a statement that the country's naval pilots in all fleets have at their disposal two dozen Il-38s and the same number of Tu-142s.

    EMNIP, really anti-submarine Our Navy has only eight IL-38s - those that have been upgraded to the "H" version. The rest of the IL-38, to put it mildly, are thirty years out of date.
    1. Il'nur
      Il'nur 18 July 2023 14: 02
      +4
      I forgot about the department, which is actually responsible for the direct protection of the bridge from land and sea

      So this department is led by a friend of Himself, and his friends are beyond complaint, so with such protection and attitude, such explosions can be expected more than once ...
      1. Dock1272
        Dock1272 19 July 2023 10: 07
        +1
        According to the principle: everything to friends, the rest of the law))
  23. KSVK
    KSVK 18 July 2023 11: 21
    +3
    In reality, you can’t really catch it with a radar either from the shore or from the ship, the engine is in the water, the body is plastic, and so on. Really difficult target.

    Nothing complicated. AK630 with a combined guidance channel for a thermal imager-TV-EOT. In the greenhouse you can see the outboard motor at a distance of more than a kilometer. And this is an ordinary civilian heat-gazer with a dead microbolometric matrix. And here you can use a calmly cooled matrix with a good resolution. Plus hydrophones. These same jet skis rattle nepodetstski. Hydrophone as early detection with determination of the direction to the sound and preliminary distance, then pointing at the thermal imager / night light and destruction. By the way, the 630s may well work against flying drones and subsonic missiles at close range. Well, as a makeweight, several RBU, in case of underwater threats. Guidance again on hydrophones. You shouldn’t expect something “heavy” under water, but the rest of the RBU will be enough for the eyes.
    PS But to discuss where these jet skis came from, IMHO is worth it. As far as I remember, these boats have a range that is not so hot. Yes, and seaworthiness is limited.
  24. cpls22
    cpls22 18 July 2023 11: 22
    +1
    All the same, it is strange to see jet skis afloat after they have been blown up. It looks like they were used as a screen for a real weapon. The nature of the damage speaks more of an explosion directly under the canvas, and not from the water level. By the way - the video of the explosion has not been published anywhere. I don't think it doesn't exist. Security was and is. It is possible that the attack was carried out by installing something like anti-tank mines on the jet skis, which hit the tanks with a cumulative jet from above. In this case, the charge worked from the bottom to the top. How to deal with jet skis if they are made the marine analogue of the Geranium? In terms of detection, you can do without aviation, in my opinion. Enough tethered copters launched from small vessels or buoys loaded with power sources. Quadcopters with thermal imaging cameras will be able to see such targets at any time of the day. It can be difficult in a storm, but such weather is too tough for a jet ski, most likely. As for blocking the work of ports, the Black Sea Fleet is really not needed here - missile strikes on infrastructure are more effective. And if they really drive us over the flags, then the traffic will dry up even without us, because of the direction from the other side. Although there will definitely be attempts to extend the KChF to the distance of a missile strike.
  25. rusmor55
    rusmor55 18 July 2023 12: 18
    +3
    The author swims a little in the topic of protecting the Bridge in ancient ways. Booms should be installed outside the fairways, and appropriate sonar, video monitors and PDSS boats should be installed on the fairways. The booms should cover the rest of the surface, and the fairways are open and do not interfere with navigation. Throughout the FVC, appropriate surveillance of passing ships. The bridge supports themselves must also be fenced with nets with appropriate signaling. Equip firing points on concrete foundations in dangerous directions in the PDSS and PKO modes. A lot of things can be foreseen, and it will cost a penny compared to restoring the bridge piers. There are a lot of people there and now they are brought in for protection, but they are private security companies and are not prepared for anything. All these are simple things. Here is either a mess and irresponsibility, or betrayal and premeditation
    1. nordscout
      nordscout 18 July 2023 13: 40
      +8
      Dear rusmor55! I will try, briefly, to answer your last phrase in the commentary and combine it into one word "indifference" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You could imagine ter. an act of this magnitude in the USSR.? I can't imagine it. In the USSR, there were other laws, rules, concepts of duty and honor, conscience, finally ... And now, we, a different country, have other concepts, views on everything and a complete absence of an ideological component ... Personal enrichment, selfishness, complete "independence" from the needs and aspirations of the state - in all its forms. Professionalism, personal responsibility, devotion to the cause and the state have receded into the "background".... Corruption, on all "floors" has become a "national sport". Incompetence is hidden behind a "veil" of verbal "fog" and banal lies, postscripts, "chattering" In one word, we are "bathing" in capitalism, to which we are trying to give a "Gagarin smile" ... And the Crimean bridge, with its SECOND terrorist attack, is a logical continuation of all this managerial bacchanalia, unprofessionalism, "indifference", nothing more .....
  26. Tank destroyerSU-100
    Tank destroyerSU-100 18 July 2023 12: 57
    +5
    The king does not report to the serfs. Do you understand anything? And it is not necessary, this is not a servile business to demand a report. Your work is obediently carried out and not arise. Everything will be decided for you and not asked.
    That's what can be said about the fact that society does not understand what is happening.
    1. Lord Zedd
      Lord Zedd 18 July 2023 19: 42
      +1
      Unfortunately, you are right, because the vast majority (~80-90%) still think that the NWO is "going according to plan". I spoke with such people, they seem to be banned on the Internet and do not see what is happening. But they watch the first channel, because they show it cheerfully and talk about our success. Well, what else do you need? TV doesn't lie
  27. Il'nur
    Il'nur 18 July 2023 13: 49
    +3
    Quote: Vladimir80
    or maybe everything is simpler, they called and said - "we know where and in what country your children live ..."

    I do not exclude this option ...
    But then why do they occupy their posts, where the fate of the country depends on their decision?! If they occupy such a post, then the fate of the country should be a priority, and let their children live in Russia ... The president himself said that laws were adopted about the impossibility of dual citizenship, the return of capital to the country, but no, they want to eat tasty food, earning in Russia , and at the same time not to answer for anything, not to do in the name of Russia, but to have our future in the West, with their "partners", so we have some kind of vague policy towards these "partners" ...
  28. the Urals
    the Urals 18 July 2023 14: 15
    +1
    The author most likely had in mind the extension of the deal not on a bridge closed for repair, but on an open one after repair ?!
    As for the protection of the bridge, the means was invented at the beginning of the XNUMXth century, anti-torpedo nets. You just need to remake them for this task there is nothing complicated in fact, in the immediate vicinity of the bridge supports themselves, and you won’t have to restrict navigation, leave several channels for passage, one way or another you still have to do it, this is the cheapest and most effective way
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  30. Jager
    Jager 18 July 2023 14: 37
    +1
    I was one of the last to visit the Bridge. Literally after a couple of kilometers, the lights went out ... It was at 3:01
  31. Radikal
    Radikal 18 July 2023 14: 42
    +6
    In the same place, the ships should guard and patrol, but we were shown them in reports. Here is the ship, it protects the Bridge, everything is under control and reliable protection ...
    The protection and defense of the Kerch bridge after the first sabotage was entrusted to the PS of the FSB of the Russian Federation. This is where we should start from. The Coast Guard of this unfinished substation is armed with galoshes, including project 1124P of the Zhemchug type, do not have technical equipment for detecting underwater, submersible, and other high-speed marine objects. This is rubbish that the leadership of the FSB adopted. Conclusions and results are obvious! None of the officials who were responsible and are responsible for the OGG (protection of the state border) over the past 30 years seriously thought about reliable protection and defense of the GG at sea and on land, and did nothing serious. The question is, who is responsible for all this crap? The question is primarily to the adherents of the Pu empire. sad
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 18 July 2023 15: 54
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      The protection and defense of the Kerch bridge after the first sabotage was entrusted to the PS of the FSB of the Russian Federation.

      But at the same time, the 115th armored RG with its 39th naval detachment did not go anywhere. And he has four "Rooks", imprisoned for anti-sabotage work.
  32. Georgy Sviridov_2
    Georgy Sviridov_2 18 July 2023 15: 17
    0
    All-out war must begin.
    Namely, to announce that in 3 days the light in Ukraine will go out for the entire time of the NWO and a couple of years after that, to announce that in a day all border checkpoints on the western Ukrainian border will be bombed and that Ukrainians need to poke ...
    Immediately after that, destroy the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, the office of the President, the Rada, the Central Bank, the Security Service, as well as the mayor's offices of all regional centers to the west of the Dnieper, destroy every single bridge across the Dnieper, including the dam in Kiev, daggers can do it ...
    The next day, really screw up border posts with geraniums, after 2 days put out the engine rooms of all power plants, and at nuclear ones, blow up cooling reservoirs and distribution stations. Blow up all power grid nodes in the west of the country...
    Then we build a bridge in the Odessa region and a tunnel ...
    Further explosions of all refineries, storage facilities for gas and petroleum products, monotonously, daily strikes ... If suddenly a light is planted somewhere, we immediately extinguish it ... Then we monotonously blow up every single shopping center in all large cities with geraniums ... city ​​government ... In a month, it turns the life of a simple Ukrainian into unbearable. There is nothing to eat, there is no light, there is no heat, there is no water, and there never will be ... Millions of people are needed to storm the EU ... Everything, as soon as the process has begun, there will be victory ... Even the army does not need to be defeated ...
    With the simultaneous destruction of ALL bridges across the Dnieper and the complete de-energization of Ukraine, military logistics will collapse ... Without grub, ammo and fuel, they can’t fight for a long time with all their desire.
    1. cmax
      cmax 18 July 2023 17: 11
      +5
      Quote: Georgy Sviridov_2
      All-out war must begin.
      Namely, to announce that in 3 days the light in Ukraine will go out for the entire time of the NWO and a couple of years after that, to announce that in a day all border checkpoints on the western Ukrainian border will be bombed and that Ukrainians need to poke ...
      Immediately after that, destroy the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, the office of the President, the Rada, the Central Bank, the Security Service, as well as the mayor's offices of all regional centers to the west of the Dnieper, destroy every single bridge across the Dnieper, including the dam in Kiev, daggers can do it ...
      The next day, really screw up border posts with geraniums, after 2 days put out the engine rooms of all power plants, and at nuclear ones, blow up cooling reservoirs and distribution stations. Blow up all power grid nodes in the west of the country...
      Then we build a bridge in the Odessa region and a tunnel ...
      Further explosions of all refineries, storage facilities for gas and petroleum products, monotonously, daily strikes ... If suddenly a light is planted somewhere, we immediately extinguish it ... Then we monotonously blow up every single shopping center in all large cities with geraniums ... city ​​government ... In a month, it turns the life of a simple Ukrainian into unbearable. There is nothing to eat, there is no light, there is no heat, there is no water, and there never will be ... Millions of people are needed to storm the EU ... Everything, as soon as the process has begun, there will be victory ... Even the army does not need to be defeated ...
      With the simultaneous destruction of ALL bridges across the Dnieper and the complete de-energization of Ukraine, military logistics will collapse ... Without grub, ammo and fuel, they can’t fight for a long time with all their desire.

      Who's going to announce it...............? Yes, and how to destroy bridges, high-precision weapons are just a turn of speech in the Moscow Region. It is small, and not always accurate. Air defense is being strengthened, soon not only planes will not fly over the line of contact, but also Caliber, unless the Daggers can do something. But how many.
      1. Georgy Sviridov_2
        Georgy Sviridov_2 18 July 2023 19: 27
        -2
        They have nothing to shoot down Iskanders, and even x-22/32 there is a chance to shoot down even with a patriot, onyxes too ... Of course, they can shoot down calibers and x-101, but again if there is a single launch ... If it flies to the side There are 3 dozen missiles in Kiev, 5-6 pieces can be shot down, even to hell with a dozen, but this will not solve the problem of destroying buildings anyway, everything that is not finished off today will be finished off tomorrow. The main thing is systematic work until the goal is achieved. Plus Geranki will always help to overload air defense.
      2. nordscout
        nordscout 18 July 2023 22: 50
        +1
        I’ll try to answer with the words of a song from the old Soviet film “The First Glove” (1946): “Everything needs skill, hardening, training ....” I’ll add political will on my own, but with it, something doesn’t work, recently, completely, with the addition of the word “actually” .... And you are talking about some bridges, high-precision weapons, "Caliber" and "Daggers" .... At the forefront, in politics, in war (and war is a continuation of politics ) three components dominate: political will, ideological "core", full support and understanding, from the masses, of your plans and decisions ....
  33. doit now
    doit now 18 July 2023 15: 50
    0
    Quote: KSVK
    “But it’s worth discussing where these jet skis came from, IMHO. As far as I remember, these boats have a range that is not so hot. Yes, and seaworthiness is limited.“
    And such an option - a pair of jet skis converted into unmanned vehicles (sea drones) are delivered by helicopters (of course they should fit there) to the coast of the Sea of ​​\u9b\u8.10.22bAzov, say, when Mariupol was still Ukrainian and are hiding. And at the right moment, the agent network is activated and the devices are launched at the target. The route is indicated by MQ-XNUMXA Reaper drones on constant duty in the sky, helping to bypass obstacles (vessels), possibly using satellite navigation. Let me remind you of the first attack on the Crimean bridge on October XNUMX, XNUMX, when explosives traveled Odessa-Bulgaria-Georgia-Armenia-Northern. Ossetia-Krasnodar Territory. "The Englishwoman knows how to shit"
  34. cmax
    cmax 18 July 2023 16: 31
    +4
    Everything interferes with our leading dancers, including making decisions, not half measures. There seems to be nothing in their heads, no thoughts, no ideas, no correct conclusions, just drooling and tweets. And our guys, military and civilian, are dying, the bill went to tens of thousands. Just wondering how it will all end - Gaga, explosions in the Kremlin, the surrender of the Crimea, the surrender of everything that is possible? Full professional suitability of both the tops and the system itself. Now it is even strange that not so long ago I considered a guarantor a guarantor.
  35. wellaut
    wellaut 18 July 2023 16: 51
    -1
    Quote from strelec69
    Author, do you really think that so many explosives can be loaded onto a jet ski to blow up a bridge from the bottom?

    Do you know the payload capacity of a jet ski?
    In any case, he is able to withstand one average person, and this is about 80 kg. And if this is modern explosives, then ... the result is in the photo.
  36. Fangaro
    Fangaro 18 July 2023 18: 15
    +1
    The grain deal should be extended on the Crimean bridge

    Pour grain directly on the bridge into ships?
    And yours and theirs? What is ours with this perversion?
  37. Lord Zedd
    Lord Zedd 18 July 2023 18: 59
    +1
    Are there cuckolds on this resource who are ready to approve Peskov’s statement that Russia can reimburse grain supplies to starving countries for free?
  38. Vadim S
    Vadim S 18 July 2023 20: 30
    0
    The golden words of the author, for which lovers of the "sea, sun and beaches" somehow minus me here, vacationing sheep go to the slaughter in the war zone, and then the whining begins that oh they hit, oh they killed, oh they got stuck and the vacation ends. In front of the bridge, there is a queue of more than a thousand cars, and if only it didn’t fly into the bridge, but through this cork? How much meat would be in the news, howl would stand and lament that without the sea, how could it be. That's when it arrives, and I'm sure it will arrive one day, our enemy is very insidious, then something will come to the gray mass!
  39. BAI
    BAI 18 July 2023 20: 36
    +2
    And here is such a gift! Deal suspended, Black Sea Initiative terminated, offices closed! And prices, of course, go up!

    Cancellation of the grain deal did NOT AFFECT prices in ANY WAY!
    After the announcement of the cancellation, prices rose by 3% and returned to their original level on the same day. Who needs all the bonuses from this deal have been fucked for a long time, grain traders have long insured themselves and found new sources of grain and built logistics.
    Grain prices are now affected by the corn crop in Mexico
  40. Vadim S
    Vadim S 18 July 2023 20: 38
    +2
    And by the way, why did everything quickly calm down about the cruiser "Moskva"? Is everyone ordered to be silent? It is clear that they took a non-disclosure agreement from the crew, bloggers dug up, but one day the truth will come out, it always comes up! In the 90s, Mayor Luzhkov saved him from scrapping, the city gave money for repairs and saved the cruiser, silence about his death is the same betrayal, the people should know not only victories but also mistakes, otherwise we won’t learn anything.
  41. Andrey A
    Andrey A 18 July 2023 20: 50
    -2
    The fact that we will withdraw from the grain deal if the West does not fulfill its obligations, Putin said even before the attack on the Crimean bridge. So the attack only confirmed the correctness of the decision! Can we prevent the export of grain from the ports of Ukraine? - Quite. To do this, it is enough just to destroy the berths of Ukrainian ports, well, and with anti-ship missiles we can strike at ships in the territorial waters of Ukraine at any time.
    With regards to the type of marine drones, the author believes that the Armed Forces of Ukraine used modernized jet skis, but there is such an opinion
    The attack on the Crimean bridge could have been carried out using the British underwater autonomous robot REMUS 600 with an additional load of explosives.

    So far, Ukrainian jet ski drones have been delivering a distraction. Some Ukrainian media write about this.

    As you can see, most likely jet skis were used only to divert attention, and British drones dealt the main blow, and this is natural: they can carry much more explosives.
    What to do? It is necessary to install booms with nets: marine drones will not pass through them. And on the approach to the fairway (where it is difficult to use booms), anchor the barges (well, or build artificial islands), with automatic guns or with the "Shell". During the Second World War, a floating battery was placed in front of the entrance to the Sevastopol Bay, where there was also anti-aircraft artillery. She worked efficiently. And control over the area from the air, apparently, can be carried out by drones.
    1. doit now
      doit now 19 July 2023 22: 16
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      Quote: Andrey A (Andrey Andreev)
      “The attack on the Crimean bridge could have been carried out with the help of the British underwater autonomous robot REMUS 600 with an additional load of explosives.
      So far, Ukrainian jet ski drones have been delivering a distraction. Some Ukrainian media write about this.“
      If an autonomous robot REMUS 600 participated in the terrorist attack, then why fence the garden and involve two jet skis to hide the participation of the British in the operation? What kind of distraction is it, I don't understand? If there was a robot, then the wreckage should remain at the bottom, because the jet ski survived and even remained afloat. It is much more interesting where the jet skis were launched from and how they were aimed at the target, they were not sailing from Odessa, which means they were launched from the Russian coast and the agents worked as in the first terrorist attack.
  42. All_Good
    All_Good 18 July 2023 21: 52
    +1
    As the bridge is guarded, so is every person in the Russian Federation. It will fly on your head and no one will protect you. This is a system that the current government has built. And this system works with huge costs, such as a large number of losses during the WTO that could have been avoided, huge expenses somewhere down the pipe, and so on. This system can show the result, but the price ...
  43. ilpine
    ilpine 18 July 2023 23: 46
    +2
    It seems that our generals do not know their military history. It is known that in 1943 the Germans with nets and mines completely blocked the exit from the Leningrad zone of submarines and ships of the USSR for more than a year. It turns out that this could be done, and even submarines could not break through these networks. What prevents the FSB of the Russian Federation and the Russian Guard in the 21st century from applying German practice against sea drones of Ukraine?
  44. alex_357
    alex_357 19 July 2023 00: 23
    +1
    So the Russian Guard is guarding the bridge ... What does the Black Sea Fleet have to do with it?
  45. KT315A
    KT315A 19 July 2023 06: 38
    0
    Enemies bought a small submarine from Latin American drug dealers. Such a boat can quietly deliver a couple of tons of explosives. It looks like it has already been used for the Kakhovka dam.
    In order to disrupt the export of grain through the ports of Ukraine, it is necessary to announce that after the explosion of the Kakhovka dam, thousands of anti-amphibious bottom mines were washed into the Black Sea.
  46. Alexander Odintsov
    Alexander Odintsov 19 July 2023 09: 12
    0
    one of the best on the subject. everything is sorted out!
  47. Igor Rusa
    Igor Rusa 19 July 2023 12: 16
    0
    I can’t understand where grain is taken from Ukraine for export? In theory, Ukraine itself should beg for grain and food from the world community, and not export it. Because in the production of grain and other agricultural products, mainly male labor is used, the very collective farmers who fight, die, and are crippled on those very offensives and counter-offensives. And I can't imagine how a cripple who has returned will jump on a combine or a tractor, drive it, repair it, change belts. Well, the suppliers of spare parts, and the repairmen are also at war, and agricultural equipment breaks down and fails. Further, grain drying is an energy-intensive occupation in the conditions of an energy crisis. And storage and transportation should also be problematic. All in all, a complete nightmare. Or maybe the Ukrainian grain is de facto not Ukrainian at all, but American, through bogus aligarhs and bogus firms. Then, indeed, the war will last until the last Ukrainian, and Russia is forced to do the dirty work for American shareholders to reduce the population of multinational Ukraine.
  48. doit now
    doit now 20 July 2023 16: 50
    0
    Quote: Author of the article
    “…but in reality it’s simple: two jet skis converted in the garage, plus the complete absence of the Bridge’s security – and here’s the result.”
    The opinions of two other respected experts are also interesting.
    1) Here is the opinion of the veteran "Alpha" lieutenant colonel of the reserve Andrey Popov, expressed on the air of radio Sputnik
    “Besides, when we say “Ukrainian drones”, we must clearly realize that it was not the Ukrainians who made something there at the broken enterprises, but these are the latest developments, the latest products and technologies of the West, which opposes us”
    2) Opinion of expert Andrey Soyustov (Telegram channel "Vsikoe") expressed to military expert Vladislav Shurygin (Telegram channel "Ramsay"):
    “The probability of the appearance of unmanned boats (BEC) and underwater drones in Kiev then, in 2016-2018, could not be seriously considered, and hence the OVR (protection of the water area) of the Crimean bridge could not have had any setting to counteract them, or the corresponding equipment. This can be indirectly confirmed by the banal fact that at the end of October 2022, the BEC did not fully defend against Ukrainian attacks turned out to be ready even the main base of the Black Sea Fleet – Sevastopol
    Soyustov believes that the Crimean bridge can be reliably protected from BEC in the following way. To the south and just in case to the north of the structure, boom-network barriers should be placed. Also in the Kerch Strait, it is worth increasing the number of means of controlling the surface and underwater situation. But these are top-priority "fire" measures, but we must work proactively.
    BECs can be delivered to Romanian Constanta, and then sent on a ship under a neutral flag to Georgia and somewhere along the way they can be lowered overboard to carry out an attack. He is confident that the United States and Great Britain provide Kyiv with maximum support in supporting the activities of the BEC.
    Summarizing, we can say this. The only way to reliably guarantee the protection of our facilities in the Black Sea, including the Crimean Bridge, from attacks by Ukrainian BECs, is to deprive Ukraine of access to the sea
    3) Andrey Soyustov's opinion that the BEC can be launched from a ship to carry out an attack is confirmed by the RaHDit group, also known as "Evil Russian hackers", which conducted its own investigation and published the routes of civilian ships from which boats could be launched along the Crimean bridge - drones and commit a terrorist attack. The hackers found out that two tankers, Beks Loyal and Khudayar Yusifzade, could have taken part in the operation to drop unmanned boats. One of them was seen a few days before the sabotage opposite the Russian coast in the Black Sea, just a hundred kilometers from Novorossiysk. The second tanker drifted south, but after that they met at sea. The group is sure that it was at this moment that the drones were transferred from one ship to another. At the same time, it is possible that another vessel could be used to control unmanned boats. Most likely, it stood on the roads with direct visibility of the Crimean bridge. The routes of the ships with a detailed analysis were published by Life