Blow for blow: cluster warheads on high-precision long-range weapons

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Blow for blow: cluster warheads on high-precision long-range weapons

“In the event that the United States supplies cluster munitions to Ukraine, the Russian Armed Forces will be forced to use similar means of destruction against the Armed Forces of Ukraine as a response,” Russia also has cluster bombs in service, they are much more effective than the American ones, their range is wider and more diverse ... »

From the speech of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergei Shoigu.

As expected, Western handlers and sponsors of the Nazi regime continue to raise the stakes in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict. After the United States studied Russian reaction to the transfer of long-range cruise missiles (CR) Storm Shadow by the UK to the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), they approved the delivery of their high-precision operational-tactical missiles ATACMS. Yes, and France has already transferred the SCALP-EG, the French version of the Storm Shadow CD to the Armed Forces of the Kyrgyz Republic - the causes and consequences of this problem were previously discussed in the material From Storm Shadow to JASSM-ER: red lines beyond which the security of Russian infrastructure and aviation at airfields will end.



And now Western countries have decided to take the next step - to start deliveries of cluster munitions - retired US Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Darin Gaub said in an interview with the American Fox News channel that this is being done due to an acute shortage of 155-mm artillery shells - they say, they are supplying something what's left.

It doesn’t matter at all whether this is true or not, the only thing that matters is that the next weapon, which will kill and maim our soldiers and civilians, and there is no doubt that these shells will be used to shell settlements in Russia (they are already using them in the cities of the former territory of Ukraine). And when the cluster shells run out, then what supply tactical nuclear munitions?

By the way, for those who consider the use of cluster munitions a violation of international law, in the inviolability and impartiality of which only a very naive person can believe, it is necessary to mention that the Convention on Cluster Munitions, which prohibits the use, transfer and stockpiling of cluster munitions, which entered into force on August 1, 2010 year, was ratified by 30 countries, but not among them the United States, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Israel, South Korea and Ukraine. So there are no international legal norms that restrict the supply and use of cluster munitions by all parties in the course of the Russian Special Military Operation (SVO) in Ukraine, however, even if they existed, no one would give a damn about them.

Effectiveness factors


As we have already said in the material "Palisade for Ukraine: Russian long-range precision weapons that are already being used or could potentially be used in the NVO zone", long-range high-precision weapons (WTO) are in fact the only means for delivering strikes deep into enemy territory.

An important factor characterizing the application aviation and the long-range WTO in Ukraine is that the airspace over the territory of Ukraine, and partly over the territory of Russia, is under the control of intelligence assets of NATO countries - ground-based radar stations (RLS) and electronic intelligence stations (RTR) located on the territory of countries Baltic States, Poland, Romania and others, as well as early warning aircraft (AWACS), tactical aircraft and reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) patrolling the sky near the borders of Ukraine and Russia.


Planes of NATO countries do not depart from the borders of Russia and Ukraine

This means that when delivering long-range air defense strikes, the intelligence structures that control and support the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) provide them with timely notification of the start of strikes, which allows the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine to change the location of mobile objects that could potentially be targets for strikes, as well as to prepare air defense equipment (AD) to repel strikes.

What mobile targets do we need to quickly destroy in the depths of Ukrainian territory?

First of all, these are Su-24 and MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force (Air Force), capable of carrying long-range precision weapons (the information has not yet been confirmed regarding the MiG-29). Then come the HIMARS launchers, which will soon start operating with ATACMS tactical missiles, and they cause us a lot of harm with previously delivered high-precision projectiles - after striking, the HIMARS launchers quickly leave the affected area and disperse.


It will be quite difficult to track down and destroy HIMARS launchers with ATACMS missiles

Important targets are enemy anti-aircraft missile systems (SAMs), especially modern medium and long-range air defense systems, which include free-standing radars, launchers and other elements of the complex.

And finally, sometimes the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a habit of collecting armored vehicles and manpower "in a heap", apparently to raise the morale of soldiers and "beautiful" videos for Western sponsors.

What are the similarities between these goals?

The fact that they are highly mobile - upon receipt of notification from NATO countries of an impending attack, the aircraft, even if they do not have time to overtake them to another airfield, will be transported by tractors to another point on the airfield. HIMARS missile launchers can also be relocated, as can elements of air defense systems. Armored vehicles and manpower will be dispersed on the ground.

If all this happened near the front line, then it would be possible to work out the area with Smerch multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) or something similar, covering areas of hundreds of hectares, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine hide valuable assets in the depths of the territory. Most likely, we do not have long-range retargeting of the WTO in flight, therefore, even if we know that the target has "left", nothing can be done.

Thus, we need to solve two problems at once - to cover potential targets over a large area and to do this at a great distance with a minimum time delay.

This sweeps aside all monobloc warheads (warheads), except for tactical nuclear munitions, and low-velocity delivery vehicles such as subsonic KR and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) of the "Geran-2" type.

Square strikes


Cluster munitions are the most effective means for area strikes. They were first used by the Germans against the Poles back in 1939. The German aviation was armed with bomb cassettes of various types, for example, the AB 250-3, which had the appearance of a standard 250-kilogram aerial bomb, which was equipped with 108 small-sized SD-2 fragmentation submunitions called "Butterfly" (Schmetterling). The SD-2 submunition was a two-kilogram steel cylinder with a braking propeller parachute.

After the release, the cassette was opened at a given height, and the submunitions, due to the rotation of the propeller, were dispersed over an area of ​​several hundred square meters, their fuses went into firing position. There were three types of fuses - AZ 41 with detonation in the air or on impact with the ground, AZ 67 with a 5-30-minute delay after the fall, and AZ 70B pressure action, which turns the submunition into an anti-personnel mine.

Submunitions with AZ 41 fuses caused primary damage to the enemy, and submunitions with AZ 67 and AZ 70B fuses hit those who came to help the victims. The radius of destruction of the AV 250-3 cluster bomb was ten times greater than the area of ​​destruction of a monoblock bomb weighing 250 kilograms (300 meters versus 30 meters).


Explosions of modern cluster munitions

It can be assumed that it is cluster munitions that can become an effective means for destroying Ukrainian Air Force aircraft at airfields disguised by HIMARS launchers, dispersed medium and long-range radars and air defense launchers, as well as grouped armored vehicles and enemy manpower.

The question remains, how can they be quickly delivered to the target?

And the storm will come...


How to deliver cluster munitions deep into the territory of Ukraine before the enemy has time to react to the strike?

First of all come to mind hypersonic missiles of the Kinzhal complex, which are almost impossible to repulse. So far, nothing has been reported about the use of missiles of the dagger complex with cluster warheads, however, such warheads can be used by missiles of the Iskander operational-tactical complexes. Considering that, according to open data, the Kinzhal missile was developed on the basis of the Iskander missile, it can be assumed that the installation of a cluster warhead on the Kinzhal can be carried out in the shortest possible time (if this has not already been done).

Cluster warheads for the Iskander missile can supposedly hit targets in an area of ​​15 square meters (somehow not enough for a warhead weighing half a ton?) And include fragmentation submunitions with air detonation, cumulative unguided submunitions and self-aiming submunitions that hit targets with an impact core, designed to destroy ground equipment, volumetric submunitions - detonating action, submunitions for remote mining with mines of various types and purposes.

Why are Kinzhal missiles not used with cluster warheads?

Perhaps because they are too rare and expensive to be wasted on targets hit by cluster munitions.

For comparison: one 220M9K 27-millimeter ammunition for the Uragan MLRS with a 9N128K cluster warhead weighing 90 kilograms includes 30 9N235 submunitions weighing 1,75 kilograms, each of which contains 300 grams of hexfol explosive, 96 cylindrical fragments weighing 4,5 .360 grams to destroy equipment and 400-2 fragments weighing 9 grams to defeat manpower. The reduced area of ​​destruction of each combat element 235N1 in terms of manpower is 150 square meters, and the entire warhead is 25 square meters.


Ammunition 9M27K for MLRS "Uragan" with cluster warhead 9N128K

A volley of MLRS "Uragan" with 16 ammunition 9M27K with a cluster warhead 9N128K destroys equipment and manpower on an area of ​​426 square meters - this is approximately 000x650 meters.

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) use Kh-22 Burya supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles (ASC) and their upgraded Kh-32 version during the NMD. Their flight speed reaches 4 kilometers per hour (approximately Mach 000), the mass of the warhead is 3,5 kilograms. The accuracy of these anti-ship missiles is questionable if their design has not been finalized in terms of the guidance system.

The question arises, what if we use the 22N9 submunitions currently used in the Uragan and Smerch MLRS missiles as the warhead of the Kh-235 anti-ship missiles?

The warhead of the X-22 anti-ship missiles weighing 960 kilograms is conditionally 10 warheads 9N128K, covering an area of ​​25 square meters. Three X-010 anti-ship missiles under the wings and fuselage of the Tu-22M22 long-range bomber-missile carrier are approximately two full salvos of the Uragan MLRS, covering an area of ​​3 square meters each.


Anti-ship missiles X-22 under the wings and fuselage of the Tu-22M3

Eight Tu-22M3s with 24 modified X-22 Burya anti-ship missiles with a cluster warhead are the equivalent of 16 full salvos of the Uragan MLRS, these are 7 200N9 submunitions, 235 heavy and 690 light fragments.

Conclusions


It is believed that the deviation of the X-22 anti-ship missiles when working on ground targets can reach up to half a kilometer. In the case of the use of several dozen modified X-22 anti-ship missiles with cluster warheads, the affected area can reach several million square meters with partial mutual overlap.

The targets can be such facilities as the Yavorovsky training ground, airfields that can potentially accommodate camouflaged combat aircraft, railway junction stations with accumulations of rolling stock, large industrial enterprises with a “sensitive” infrastructure, large oil storage facilities and warehouses of fuel and lubricants (fuel and lubricants). ), deployed medium and long-range air defense systems, ground military equipment and manpower concentrated on the ground.

Of course, comparing the impact of cluster munitions and tactical nuclear weapons is an exaggeration. However, a massive strike with long-range precision supersonic weapons using cluster warheads, carried out "with a single purpose for a single purpose", can inflict damage on the enemy that could otherwise be achieved only with the help of tactical nuclear weapons.

Only power law plays a role in the war, everything else is just good wishes, naive dreams or deliberate lies.

We should not succumb to illusions that it will be possible to defeat the Western countries on the territory of Ukraine in some other way than force and ruthless determination.
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  1. +16
    19 July 2023 04: 40
    “In the event that the United States supplies cluster munitions to Ukraine, the Russian Armed Forces will be forced to use similar means of destruction against the Armed Forces of Ukraine as a response,” Russia also has cluster bombs in service, they are much more effective than the American ones, their range is wider and more diverse ... »

    What old words
    And how the head is spinning
    And how the head is spinning ...

    Or you can JUST START USING the existing arsenal of weapons ONLY TO ensure that no one else has any illusions about irresponsible terrorist acts ... Although, what kind of acts are there?!
    It's time to start CTO or declare war on this regime... Or do you have other strategic plans, Sergey Kuzhugetovich?!
    The mirror in which the answers are reflected needs to be wiped sometimes...
    * * *
    Only the right of force plays a role in the war, everything else is just good wishes, naive dreams or deliberate lies.
    We should not succumb to the illusion that the defeat of the Western countries on the territory of Ukraine will be possible in some other way than by the use of force and ruthless determination.

    Yes good
    1. +15
      19 July 2023 06: 08
      Everything is as usual. We'll start soon. Every year the same thing: next year it will be much better (wider and longer) ...
      1. +1
        19 July 2023 06: 13
        Yeah. We will only dig a little deeper and paadkoshe (kosee).
      2. +4
        19 July 2023 09: 26
        wider and longer

        Maybe even wider and longer...
        Not all the money has been earned yet! And women still give birth to soldiers ... (c) If only the money went into the right pocket!
      3. 0
        19 July 2023 11: 39
        Quote: Amateur
        Everything is as usual. We'll start soon. Every year the same thing: next year it will be much better (wider and longer) ...

        Life got better.
        Life has become more fun.
        The neck is thinner
        But it's longer.
        © smile
      4. +2
        19 July 2023 13: 03
        Yes, we have deadlines in parrots, and nada in boas lol
    2. +8
      19 July 2023 08: 59
      It's time to start CTO or declare war on this regime... Or do you have other strategic plans, Sergey Kuzhugetovich?!
      The mirror in which the answers are reflected needs to be wiped sometimes...
      I fully understand your indignation and even join him. But you understand THEM, NWO started for the sake of dough. Infrastructure 404 is not destroyed as it should, just because it belongs to the right people. Therefore, do not scold the military. Until the fried rooster pecks them personally, this is how everything will happen.
    3. 0
      19 July 2023 14: 31
      Yes, our high-ranking people like to make excuses, forget the facts and regularly threaten adversaries. And it’s not clear why then we were all shown how banderdogs were hammering around Donetsk with Dots-U with cassettes !?
  2. +9
    19 July 2023 06: 12
    I also thought about it. Attacks on the railway depot, energy facilities (substations). There is no need for a huge funnel, the targets are unarmored, but dispersed over a large area. The strike of a cluster warhead seems to be more effective. But for some reason, ordinary high-explosive fragmentation charges are used. There are rocket gunners in the forum, why is that?
    1. +8
      19 July 2023 06: 27
      why is that

      for the same reason, why the bridges across the Dnieper are intact ... the goals of "all this" are completely different ...
  3. +5
    19 July 2023 06: 25
    First of all, these are aircraft of the Air Force (Air Force) of Ukraine Su-24 and MiG-29

    I remember that one talking head in a general's uniform, from the very beginning of the NMD, was broadcasting that all the aircraft of the Skakuas were destroyed along with the airfields, but it looks like ...
    1. 0
      20 July 2023 01: 53
      And out HOW? Well, how is it in you? Is there more accurate data? Where? Voice it, don't be shy.
      OR as it is customary for all mans with lumens to overclock? You don't like MoD reports - listen to Deutsche Welle! Or some beobacher, God forgive me.
      There you are served something dear to your heart. About rusty Russian rockets, about chips from breast pumps and washing machines, about the last Russian tanks. Everything is complete and even more. Soon they will announce victory over Russia and you will be happy! Why are you whining here? Are you working out?
    2. 0
      20 July 2023 08: 37
      If someone in uniform talks about destruction, then this means that the target has lost combat capability for more than a day. But it can be restored through repair. This does not mean that it is irretrievably lost.
  4. +4
    19 July 2023 06: 30
    Now, if the "answer" fell on their territory, they would become thoughtful.
    And so! Beat, we do not feel sorry for these "traitors" of yours
  5. +5
    19 July 2023 06: 54
    For the use of both cluster munitions and tactical nuclear weapons, political will is needed, but it is not visible yet.
  6. +3
    19 July 2023 07: 13
    We have the main ammunition of the caliber of a lieutenant general .... As you listen to him, it’s really like we are mowed down the enemy by hundreds with clusters! It’s even surprising, why are they running around after that in the worked-out area?
  7. +3
    19 July 2023 07: 17
    . Three X-22 anti-ship missiles under the wings and fuselage of the Tu-22M3 long-range missile-carrying bomber

    Three - transportation, combat only two or one
  8. +1
    19 July 2023 08: 19
    In fact, a missile without modern guidance systems is a bunch of unnecessary rubbish.
    The same promoted "Shaheed" low-quality cheap stuff. They are good against stationary targets.
    I "dissected" 3 options: "shahida" - it sucks.
    Geranium 2, the maximum that could be made from 3 different models
  9. +8
    19 July 2023 08: 24
    Only the right of force plays a role in war

    So it's at war!
    And now SVKO (special military commercial operation), which takes into account the business interests of the richest people in Russia.
    Therefore, we are marking time.
    1. +1
      19 July 2023 17: 19
      By the way, I’ll assume that most of our oligarchs have already hidden their assets (or transferred them to proxies) and are calmly sailing on yachts outside the Russian Federation, and they are very conditionally worried about the problems of the Russian Federation
  10. +6
    19 July 2023 08: 26
    Why are we all only in response, only for something? Where is our initiative? We must be the first to apply without looking at the Western masters. So soon the tiao will come from their side. You need to apply chemistry, bio, stop playing good and honest!
  11. 0
    19 July 2023 09: 19
    And earlier, our media boasted of lunar landscapes in the former Ukraine.

    Cassette players, like they wrote, are not banned in Russia.
    It is not clear why they are not used, although several times they showed and boasted about the flow of lighters. Also Cassettes?

    There will simply be more lunar landscapes.
  12. +7
    19 July 2023 09: 30
    Why do we all the time wait for the enemy to use something new, get indignant, then start to respond somehow flawedly! It is clear that the use of tactical nuclear weapons is not entirely, but almost an extreme measure. Why don't we still use cluster munitions? We have very decent arguments for their use - we are not bound by any restrictions and their use would be a worthy response to all kinds of sabotage and murder of our people both in the Russian Federation and in the annexed territories. In addition, the use of KB would increase the losses of the enemy and reduce the losses of our soldiers! Stop waiting for something - you need to beat the enemy, using the entire arsenal of weapons and ammunition!
  13. +3
    19 July 2023 09: 34
    We should not succumb to the illusion that the defeat of the Western countries on the territory of Ukraine will be possible in some other way than by the use of force and ruthless determination.

    - went straight to the soul!! soldier
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  15. +1
    19 July 2023 14: 03
    It seems to me that the author exaggerates the ability of the Vushniks to quickly relocate everything that is not nailed to the fence. And the relocation of air defense is generally surprising, why is it then needed at all?
  16. +1
    19 July 2023 14: 10
    Having and starting to apply are two big differences
  17. +1
    19 July 2023 15: 49
    What "if put"? The first shipments have already arrived, as was announced a few days ago.
  18. +3
    19 July 2023 16: 32
    When will the Moscow Region and the president take off their white gloves and start a real war with bandera and the fifth column? What prevents you from expelling obvious corrupt officials and two-faced citizens from power structures, both in the government and in the field, without judicial red tape, because they are known to the FSB? When will the president ban even the smallest official from the government from loitering over the hill, and even on a private plane? There is more harm from them than from all Ukrainian henchmen of the Anglo-Saxons taken together. What prevents Ukrainian border crossings from being carpet bombed: with Moldova, Hungary, Poland and Romania? Who prevents the destruction of at least one of the spans of each bridge across the Dnieper. Why is there still no ultimatum from England that in the event of the delivery of certain types of weapons capable of hitting strategic targets of the Russian Federation, its thermal power facilities and power distribution centers will be immediately hit (there are 30-56 of them) by "Daggers" in cluster thermite equipment ?
    1. 0
      20 July 2023 02: 04
      Quote: 89824024836
      What prevents the obvious corrupt officials and duplicitous citizens from being expelled from power structures, both in the government and in the field, without judicial red tape, because they are known to the FSB


      Hmm... Well, for starters, they are duplicitous because they are duplicitous. And just don't bite them :)
      And you can kick it out, but who should take their place? You? Or FSB?
      Maybe the military? Those who in the Arbast Military District spent the last quarter of a century on the pockets of the budget painted? These are these, right? Or busines who are up to their necks in crime since the 90s?
      A! Probably, to bring honest and sincere people from the Moon, and among them to select competent and experienced ones.
      :)
      Getting it out is not a problem. Replace is the question.

      Quote: 89824024836
      When will the president ban even the smallest official from the government from loitering over the hill, and even on a private plane?

      And he will order you to go to the toilet strictly according to the schedule :)
      How are you going to control the movement of officials down to the "smallest ones"? Create a Ministry of control over officials? When another control system is introduced, the question always arises: how to control the controller?

      Quote: 89824024836
      What prevents Ukrainian border crossings from being carpet bombed: with Moldova, Hungary, Poland and Romania


      In order to carry out carpet bombing of the transition between Poland and Ukraine, it is necessary to drive a Tu-95 into the Ukrainian sky and not one. If CARPET. They will shoot down. Simply and stupidly knocked down.

      Quote: 89824024836
      Why is there still no ultimatum from England that in the event of the delivery of certain types of weapons capable of hitting strategic objects of the Russian Federation, its thermal power facilities and power distribution centers will be immediately hit (there are 30-56 of them) by "Daggers" in cluster thermite equipment?


      Because they are sitting in the Kremlin and they are well aware that in response, Britain can easily launch its nuclear weapons at us. It's not much, but it's enough to kill a million civilians.
  19. BAI
    0
    19 July 2023 20: 39
    it will be possible to defeat the Western countries on the territory of Ukraine somehow differently than by using force and merciless determination.

    You can defeat the countries of the West only on the territory of the countries of the West. They don't care about Ukraine, whatever happens there
  20. 0
    19 July 2023 22: 57
    The symbiosis of a high-precision carrier, with a cluster warhead, is a good "compress" on hot heads in the leadership of the Ukroreich, and if, in the role of a carrier, "Caliber", "Dagger" or anti-ship missiles "Storm" - very effective, it will be, " cleansing enema" for the leadership of NATO and old man Joe in particular ....
  21. 0
    20 July 2023 02: 10
    I still don’t understand, but why does the author of the article need exactly the AIR version of the cassette warhead carrier? What does not suit a tactical missile? At Iskander, a quasi-ballistic missile regularly carries a cluster warhead. If there are few missiles, then it is necessary to do what is already ready for production, why bother with a garden? Moreover, the Iskander complex can fire at least a dozen missiles in a salvo, and even a Tu-22, a maximum of two X-22s. What for?
    1. 0
      20 July 2023 11: 12
      Apparently it's a matter of price. Iskander comes out more expensive.
      1. 0
        24 July 2023 01: 40
        Quote: shinobi
        Apparently it's a matter of price. Iskander is more expensive.

        Taking into account the fact that all the options proposed by the author are hypothetical and still need to be developed? The Iskander rocket is serial, and it has the potential to be cheaper.
  22. 0
    20 July 2023 03: 29
    It is necessary to return the Point with a cassette warhead to service.
    1. 0
      24 July 2023 01: 43
      This is impossible. All components of the complex have long been taken out of production, and the ammunition has "aged" the shelf life. And if for the warhead this is unpleasant, but not critical, then this is where the rocket with degenerated rocket fuel will fly - this is a question.
  23. 0
    20 July 2023 11: 11
    As for the impossibility of retargeting, here the author is pointing to the sky. In general, cluster munitions go in terms of lethality as a (subatomic) weapon of mass destruction. That's why they tried to ban it.