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Previously extended grain deal expires today

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Previously extended grain deal expires today

Today, the deadline for the once again extended grain deal expires. Recall that this deal provides for the opening of three Black Sea ports of Ukraine "for the export of agricultural products to the poorest countries in the world." It also provides for the lifting of sanctions on the Russian bank servicing agricultural transactions, the operation of the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline and the opening of foreign ports for Russian fertilizers.


If Russia fulfilled all its obligations under the deal, then the “partners” (including the UN special commission) were, to put it mildly, in no hurry to fulfill the Russian terms of the deal.

The day before, the last ship loaded with grain under the deal left the port of Odessa. This is a bulk carrier "Samsun" under the flag of Turkey. And by no means does this ship deliver grain to the poorest countries in the world.

Earlier, the Turkish President said that the grain deal "will be extended." A similar statement was made by Turkish Vice President Cevdet Yilmaz. True, Yilmaz added that Ankara "is counting on it."

Vice President of Turkey:

The head of our state, Mr. Erdogan, has done a great job in this direction. This is not only economic work, but also humanitarian. We continue to make efforts to extend the grain agreement. I hope they give positive results.

Official comments from the Russian authorities have not yet been published.
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  1. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 17 July 2023 08: 56
    +1
    Previously extended grain deal expires today

    No contract - no conversation!
    Completely dressed up...
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 17 July 2023 09: 00
      +2
      It will all end in a nuclear war! And Trump - even if he becomes the president of the United States - will not help stop the war in any way. Russia will have to expand the Bosphorus!
      1. ZhEK-Vodogrey
        ZhEK-Vodogrey 17 July 2023 09: 05
        +17
        Quote: Tatiana
        It will all end in nuclear war!

        We haven't even started yet. During the day, expect an angry post from Medvedev and a note of protest from Lavrov.
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 17 July 2023 09: 46
          +1
          No ... There will be another: "Please treat with understanding" ...
          1. Serge9901
            Serge9901 17 July 2023 09: 50
            +1
            We make bets - the mower will "extend", because "well ... it should be so."
            1. Non-fighter
              Non-fighter 17 July 2023 09: 57
              0
              Officially - "they will not extend", in fact - they will carry on, because "freedom of navigation".
      2. Plate
        Plate 17 July 2023 09: 07
        0
        The problem is that if Russia expands the Bosporus, then in response someone can expand the Baltic Sea towards St. Petersburg. Alas, the nuclear baton is not only with us.
        1. Aken
          Aken 17 July 2023 09: 09
          +1
          Agree. Kattegat and Skagerrak also need to be expanded.
          1. carpenter
            carpenter 17 July 2023 09: 17
            +2
            Quote from Aken
            Agree. Kattegat and Skagerrak also need to be expanded.

            Kattegat with Skagerrak can wait, but in the Copenhagen area, it would be necessary to expand.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 17 July 2023 10: 21
              0
              Quote: Plate
              if Russia expands the Bosphorus, then in response someone can expand the Baltic Sea towards St. Petersburg. Alas, the nuclear baton is not only with us.

              Well, so I write
              Quote: Tatiana
              It will all end in a nuclear war!
              And Trump - even if he becomes the president of the United States - will not help stop the war.
      3. terms
        terms 17 July 2023 09: 50
        +2
        what kind of a nuclear war, have you read post-apocalyptic books or played a fallout?)) Who needs a vigorous war? They can frighten each other to the point of being creepy from the other side, but there is an endless abyss between “saying” and “doing”. Vigorous war is even more unprofitable for the West, because they have a more developed society, high technologies are more implemented in life, they are highly dependent on them. JV, in principle, will destroy many of the hard-won assets, connections and complex supply chains of multinational companies around the world. That the same American currency will be brought down to the ground, because the structure of the economy will collapse. And the economy is the basis of the existence of mankind, because the economy is one of the things that fundamentally distinguish us from animals. Do they need it?))
        1. Plate
          Plate 17 July 2023 12: 32
          0
          By the way, all these post-apocalypses are about the fact that AFTER a nuclear war. Not a single post-nuclear setting has revealed how the decision to use nuclear weapons was made. Well, in Fallout, at least something about the resource crisis is overwritten, about the non-nuclear phase of the confrontation, so you can still imagine how they got to that point. And in the same Metro, it’s like that in general - a nuclear war happened because ... well, because :) In Internet creativity, I also did not see the study of the reasons for the use of nuclear weapons. Indeed, everyone talks about the consequences of a nuclear war. And no one about how they crossed this line, beyond which it lies. Well at least, there is about how they approached her.
        2. KJIETyc
          KJIETyc 17 July 2023 12: 33
          +2
          And who cares what "they need"? Do you live in a paradigm of servility? Does the form of economy in the form of subsistence farming distinguish a person from an animal or not yet? Here they will grow corn and eat, and everyone will be fine. Or change caps from cola to nishtyaki, classic capitalism, comrade)) So much pseudo-scientific nonsense What is a mother-daraga!
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 July 2023 13: 09
          +1
          Quote from termos
          what kind of a nuclear war, have you read post-apocalyptic books or outplayed in a fallout?)) Who needs a vigorous war?

          The whole world does not need a nuclear war, but they are striving for it. Your optimism is not shared by everyone in the world.
          1. terms
            terms 18 July 2023 16: 48
            0
            This is not optimism, this is logic. Imagine yourself in the place of any person from the management of a transnational corporation, you see that everything is heading towards a real nuclear war. You have a bunch of supply chains, thousands of branches around the world, supplies of resources for processing and products to points around the world have been established. And you understand that all this crap will soon collapse in an instant, and not just in words: the military is intensively preparing, there is an intense radio exchange, and so on. What are your thoughts and actions? Personally, I would try hard to invest money so that those, through whose fault my whole colossus will break tomorrow, quickly leave their posts, preferably also sit down, and people who threaten me less will take their place. And in words, let them arrange at least ten nuclear wars, this will not make it worse.
    2. January
      January 17 July 2023 09: 13
      +6
      And so as not to think more - a new blow to the Crimean bridge.
  2. Dimy4
    Dimy4 17 July 2023 08: 57
    +11
    Official comments from the Russian authorities have not yet been published.

    Let's wait and see, but to be honest, some kind of pessimism is that the Kremlin will refuse. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, but you?
    1. bandabas
      bandabas 17 July 2023 09: 07
      +12
      Agree. Not for the first time, under the ostentatious pretext of a "peace initiative." It will also give money for the development of Turkey. Free of charge. That is a gift hi .
    2. coinsam
      coinsam 17 July 2023 09: 43
      -1
      The deal has not been terminated, but will be suspended until all Russian requirements and obligations of Western countries are met.
  3. strelec69
    strelec69 17 July 2023 08: 57
    +6
    And now paint all these ports in response to the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge
    1. KJIETyc
      KJIETyc 17 July 2023 09: 02
      +16
      yes, yes, definitely)) last time, not enough spans were apparently folded? here atk is necessary every time, they act and break the bridge, and the bright-faced ones, in retaliation, like offended children, will extend some deal)) Nobody wants to be friends with terpils, and even more so nobody respects
      1. Ronrew
        Ronrew 17 July 2023 09: 35
        +6
        You are ... be careful about the bridge, otherwise the comments on three publications on the topic of the bridge have already been closed. It will continue to be so, and they will close it here, the censors are fiercely fierce today.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 17 July 2023 10: 00
        +2
        Nothing! Soon the enduring people will vote for the enduring rulers.
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    1. Sanguinius
      Sanguinius 17 July 2023 08: 59
      +7
      Don't say "hop" until you've jumped!
      That's when the GDP itself says that we refuse to comply with the grain deal, then yes!
      And then life teaches you nothing, run ahead of the locomotive
      1. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 17 July 2023 09: 26
        +6
        In fact, the GDP (or rather, our Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs can only voice the decision of the President) once already announced the closure of the "grain agreement". But after Erdogan's words that everything remains in force, he was sent to Shoigu's "TV" with a statement that Ukraine had given guarantees to someone and about something. What guarantees could Ukraine give if it legally forbade itself to conduct "talks" with the Russian Federation.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 17 July 2023 09: 56
        -1
        Do you think he can say that???
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 17 July 2023 09: 05
    +3
    Let's see what happens next.
    So those who need to be fed were not going to be fed, so the deal stank badly from the very beginning.
  6. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 17 July 2023 09: 11
    +9
    I would like to make a mistake, but everything will be as before. Not enough will and determination, even after another slap in the face.
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 July 2023 09: 12
    +1
    Earlier, the Turkish President said that the grain deal "will be extended." A similar statement was made by Turkish Vice President Cevdet Yilmaz.
    As D. Peskov stated, Moscow did not give the go-ahead. At least not yet.
    Peskov said that Russia has not yet made statements on the grain deal
    Dmitry Peskov: Russia has not made any statements on the grain deal
    The grain deal expires July 17th. Erdogan said earlier that he and Putin have "the same opinion" regarding its extension. Peskov then recalled that Moscow had not yet made official statements on this matter.

  8. ivan2022
    ivan2022 17 July 2023 09: 15
    +9
    No final decision has been made. But in the end they sell it anyway...

    Exactly a year has also passed since Medvedev's words about "doomsday for the Armed Forces of Ukraine" after the attack on the Crimean bridge .....
    All the "red lines" have also passed.

    Elections are ahead, and if they happen at all, all those who have been in power for 30 years will still be elected ......

    One to steal, the other to perish: "Japhet has power, Sim prays .... "And Ham - - takes the rap for everything.
    And just as hundreds of years ago the elites were "proud of his heroism"... The foundations of Russian life are unshakable! What was, is what will be.
    1. ohka
      ohka 17 July 2023 09: 54
      +3
      Let me clarify a little - not "elections" but "voting". The last "elections" on the territory of the RI-USSR-RF took place in September 1912.
  9. megadeth
    megadeth 17 July 2023 09: 15
    +3
    No official comments from the Russian authorities have been published at the moment.
    A good comment from our authorities would be the MRAU for the Odessa and Black Sea ports of the ukrofascists. IMHO
  10. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 17 July 2023 09: 17
    -3
    Most likely, the deal has already been approved. For Russia, there are again negative consequences, but from non-renewal it would be even worse.
    1. Ev23
      Ev23 17 July 2023 09: 29
      +10
      They hit the bridge, which means they will soon announce the extension of the grain deal.

      The effect of diplomatic humiliation must always be complemented by something military.

      In this infamous grain story, it's always like that. The Kremlin has never signed an extension without a trash can on its head.
      1. Yarik
        Yarik 17 July 2023 12: 17
        -1
        from 14.07.23 "The Kremlin has agreed to an extension of the grain deal, the previous term of which expires in the second half of July. This is reported by AFP, citing Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan." And there will be another visit of "submission" to Istanbul, with a bucket on his head.
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  12. rocket757
    rocket757 17 July 2023 09: 22
    +4
    Question... from the very beginning of this deal, there were questions about the fact that the deal prevents our farmers from selling surplus grain!!!
    As a result, it was said that all the norms and sold everything that was planned for sale, and everything else is sold in one way or another. True, the issue of payment, how it was made, was not clear, but probably they found workarounds here.
    At the expense of spare parts, materials and other things for imported equipment, somehow it was also decided, on the left, on the right, probably with extra expenses ...
    In general, everything is solved, business has always found workarounds.
    The situation is unpleasant, well, we are not the first, we are not the last, but in the future, foreign trade activities will have to be built on the basis of modern realities, they do not hope that it will resolve itself.
    Whoever prepares correctly will suffer fewer losses, it has always been so, and it will be so.
    The world is big, we must proceed from this, and not rest against the gates that are closed.
  13. glock-17
    glock-17 17 July 2023 09: 23
    -1
    It’s easier to extend than to refuse, and then admit that the Black Sea Fleet is not able to establish a blockade of ports. Here the choice is between a bad option and a very bad one.
    1. Viktor29
      Viktor29 17 July 2023 11: 33
      +1
      Why block ports when you can shoot another one at an unprotected grain carrier, or is this an impossible task for the Black Sea Fleet?
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  15. VladMirU
    VladMirU 17 July 2023 09: 33
    +10
    Quote: Sanguinius
    Don't say "hop" until you've jumped!
    That's when the GDP itself says that we refuse to comply with the grain deal, then yes!
    And then life teaches you nothing, run ahead of the locomotive

    Wait a couple of years. Maybe this "VVP" will learn something. During this time, we will not only become "patients". They have already begun to poke us in the shit with their faces. And he doesn't care about anything - "God's dew" ...... There are no words, "multi-move".
    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 17 July 2023 09: 55
      +1
      started poking us in the shit

      and who? - Tajikistan with Uzbekiston!
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  17. fabrice-6883
    fabrice-6883 17 July 2023 09: 43
    +2
    pourquoi prolonger un accord dont seule la 1ère partie, favorable à l'Ukraine, est respectée? Un accord ou la majorité des céréales est exportée vers les pays riches et les pays en développement (sachant que Chine et Turquie sont comptés dans cette catégorie "en développement!)? Ou la 2è partie, favorable à la Russie, n'est pas respectée Ou le pont de Crimée a encore été bombardé par des missiles franco anglais?Ou enfin les pays les plus affamés ne reçoivent rien ou quasiment rien?
  18. opposite28
    opposite28 17 July 2023 09: 55
    0
    Given the drought in the countries of central and western Europe, it is not surprising that all the exported grain is sent to Europe and the termination of the "grain deal" was not included in the plans of representatives of the EU countries, as well as Turkey in connection with the recent earthquake. The incident with the Crimean bridge was carried out right now not without the participation of military advisers from NATO countries, because the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not able to make a decision on sabotage on the Crimean bridge on their own. Synchronization of events and a certain mental symbolism are a distinctive feature of the circle of interests of Ukrainian fans of the struggle between obviousness and inevitability... request
  19. Esaul
    Esaul 17 July 2023 09: 56
    +1
    As they say, no port, no deal.
    1. Yarik
      Yarik 17 July 2023 12: 22
      -1
      Abramovich and others like him, you will not be forgiven for this laughing
  20. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 17 July 2023 10: 01
    0
    To the apologists for the use of nuclear weapons, I remind you that we can actually use it in Ukraine (TNW), while using it against the states of NATO countries will most likely lead to a mutual exchange of nuclear weapons of our and American strategic nuclear forces.
  21. dementor873
    dementor873 17 July 2023 10: 09
    -1
    I wonder if the military can remove someone?
  22. Dva parovoza
    Dva parovoza 17 July 2023 10: 22
    0
    To put it mildly - Yilmaz goes to the chocolate eye.