The enemy is attacking in the Staromayorsky area, fierce battles are going on

July 16 2023

Heavy fighting in the area of the Vremevsky ledge, the enemy is trying to break through our defenses in the areas of Staromayorsky and Priyutny, some Ukrainian resources have already rushed to report that Staromayorsky was allegedly transferred under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are attacking from the side of Makarovka, fierce battles in this area have been going on for more than one day, the enemy is throwing more and more forces into battle, not paying attention to losses. According to Russian resources, the enemy uses the tactics of rolling forward, constantly bringing reserves into battle with the support of artillery. According to the latest data, the main advancement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is along the forest plantations, the enemy arranges oporniki in them.

In the last XNUMX hours, the enemy launched the strongest attacks in the Staromayorsky area, throwing assault detachments into battle with the support of armored vehicles. Enemy artillery is active. Information has appeared on Ukrainian resources that Staromayorskoye has allegedly already come under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but ours refute this information. According to military correspondent Alexander Sladkov, the Armed Forces really tried to enter the village by attacking our positions at night, but they were rebuffed and rolled back with losses.

It is reported about the tactical success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donetsk direction: the Ukrainian military captured the village of Staromayorskoye (north-east of Urozhainy). According to my information, this is not the case. There was an attempt to capture tonight, the attack was repulsed, at the moment, at 12:11, our forces are standing there

- the military correspondent writes in his TG channel.

Meanwhile, ours are forced to leave the front line of defense, which they held for a month and a half. The active use of artillery on both sides destroyed the fortifications, it is reported about the "plowed" positions of the Russian army.

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Rumata 16 July 2023 13: 13
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reported on the "plowed" positions of the Russian army.

This is also visible in the picture. Horror level of the First World War. It is generally accepted that VFU have an advantage in high-precision artillery. Nevertheless, the consumption of projectiles on both sides is huge, as is the area of scattering ellipses. The military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation must build up high-precision weapons at any cost in order to reduce the consumption of ammo by 100 times.
1. ZhEK-Vodogrey 16 July 2023 13: 32
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  As a variant of the T-55, this is a nimble, well-armored, 100mm rifled gun capable of hitting all targets in the Armed Forces of Ukraine from a closed firing position, except for tanks.
  The T-55 has a side level and a protractor of the required accuracy in the base. Moreover, the scale of the goniometer is applied to the inner surface of the shoulder strap of the tower. The 100-mm OFS has a dispersion of 4800 meters (no further data) - 1,2 meters vertically, 1,4 horizontally. Naval 100-mm shells, which are in bulk and are not particularly needed. Almost complete invulnerability to return counter-battery fire, you either need to put a projectile directly under the side, or a direct hit, armor protects from fragments.
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    all targets in the Armed Forces of Ukraine from a closed firing position, except for tanks.
    
    What "closed positions" can there be if the maximum elevation angle of the gun barrel is +18° (https://arsenal-info.ru/b/book/135843252/8). For firing at a maximum range of 14 m, you need to dig an inclined hole into which to drive the tank backwards to obtain the required elevation angle. Theoretically, of course it is possible. But practically - those who want a shovel in their hands.
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    Have you ever done shooting preparation? The minimum affects are weather conditions (wind, temperature, pressure), gun (-wear of the bore, accuracy of its manufacture), shot (mass, composition, temperature, charge time, mass, and other characteristics of the projectile). the possibilities of binding the OP, the accuracy of the guidance nodes ..... You can list for a long time, and this is all for one shot. And where are you planning to go?
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  "... the enemy throws more and more forces into battle, not paying attention to losses. ..."
  ******************************************************* ********************************************* Judging by the fact that the leading clown of the big top on Bankova I was going to mobilize another 200 thousand, they not only "pay attention" to losses, but also react very painfully (for themselves - loved ones ...) react. And it is the Russian Armed Forces that FORCE them to this ...
  
  As for the "building up of the WTO", then why should it be used on the front line? "small groups"?.. And trying to hide in forest plantations?..
  
  Well no...
  
  Just in this situation, the massive use of weapons of destruction of the "Second World War" against attacking and concentrating to attack enemy forces, is "the very thing" ...
  
  And better than laying "bomb carpets" on the Kiev Bandero-Natsiks, or, as their kind of "equivalent", cluster BPs, would be the most rational and effective addition to those weapons that are already massively used in the advanced orders of the Russian Armed Forces .. .
  
  And the WTO is still very useful for utilizing the potential (and physical entities) that the enemy has at a distance, starting from the operational-tactical and "deeper" ... If necessary, up to Danzig and Breslau. If carriers of weapons of destruction will rise from the "Lyashsky territories", striking at the Russian Armed Forces and its territory ...
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    Quote: ABC-schütze
    "... the enemy throws more and more forces into battle, not paying attention to losses. ..."
    ******************************************************* ********************************************* Judging by the fact that the leading clown of the big top on Bankova I was going to mobilize another 200 thousand, they not only "pay attention" to losses, but also react very painfully (for themselves - loved ones ...) react. And it is the Russian Armed Forces that FORCE them to this ...
    
    As for the "building up of the WTO", then why should it be used on the front line? "small groups"?.. And trying to hide in forest plantations?..
    
    Well no...
    
    Just in this situation, the massive use of weapons of destruction of the "Second World War" against attacking and concentrating to attack enemy forces, is "the very thing" ...
    
    And better than laying "bomb carpets" on the Kiev Bandero-Natsiks, or, as their kind of "equivalent", cluster BPs, would be the most rational and effective addition to those weapons that are already massively used in the advanced orders of the Russian Armed Forces .. .
    
    And the WTO is still very useful for utilizing the potential (and physical entities) that the enemy has at a distance, starting from the operational-tactical and "deeper" ... If necessary, up to Danzig and Breslau. If carriers of weapons of destruction will rise from the "Lyashsky territories", striking at the Russian Armed Forces and its territory ...
    
    Forget about Danzig and Breslau...
    The defense is barely holding up here.
    Damn projectors.
    1. ABC-schutze 16 July 2023 15: 16
      
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      No, that's about it, I just "forget" will not in any case. And you, for starters, decide what you are talking about ...
      
      About "today", i.e. about the tactical situation on the front line?.. Or about the strategy, i.e. about the IMPACT potential, OBJECTIVELY MOST needed by the Russian Armed Forces in the medium term, for the irreversible achievement of the goal of the NMD and the irreversible solution of its two main tasks? "curators" of the Kiev big top. Including the possibility of the latter providing their territory, for basing carriers of weapons of destruction transferred in the future (and already today ...) to the Kyiv Bandero-Natsiks, for delivering strikes against the Russian Armed Forces and its territory? ..
      
      Those. Are you talking about "urgent" or "important"? .. Or "about this and that" at once? .. Then excuse me. "Identical" recipes immediately "for both cases", by definition, cannot be ...
      1. ABC-schutze 16 July 2023 15: 20
        
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        And by the way, I never heard from you a clear answer to my quite logical question. I will repeat it...
        
        “As for the “building up of the WTO”, then who should use it on the front lines? .. According to the Kiev Bandero-Nazis, intensively poking into the advanced defensive orders of the Russian Armed Forces in so-called “small groups”? .. And trying to hide in forest plantations?. ."
        
        For without a clear and reasoned answer to this question, your advice to me, such as "forget about it", or "recommendations" on "increasing the use of the WTO" (precisely in the context of the situation at the forefront ...) looks like demagoguery, in the format " manilovism"...
        
        SovAr238A 16 July 2023 18: 14
        
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        And by the way, I never heard from you a clear answer to my quite logical question. I will repeat it...
        
        “As for the “building up of the WTO”, then who should use it on the front lines? .. According to the Kiev Bandero-Nazis, intensively poking into the advanced defensive orders of the Russian Armed Forces in so-called “small groups”? .. And trying to hide in forest plantations?. ."
        
        For without a clear and reasoned answer to this question, your advice to me, such as "forget about it", or "recommendations" on "increasing the use of the WTO" (precisely in the context of the situation at the forefront ...) looks like demagoguery, in the format " manilovism"...
        
        Once again, for those who consider the WTO not necessary in terms of ukrov.
        Before the war, I read many times, thousands of times here about how we, with iron, with the great Hephaestus, will destroy all ukrov in case of war.
        The war began.
        Dozens of our planes with Hephaestus landed. And the pilots died.
        And already after 3 months, our strike aircraft was laid up.
        There is no WTO, without bad results there are no, except for the loss of aircraft pilots.
        DID YOU GET IT OR NOT?
        without the WTO, our aviation was turned off in principle.
        Our aviation began to appear in the skies of Ukraine, only after the panicky handicraft production of wings worth under 40 thousand dollars (for comparison with 20 for Ameroa) ...
        Moving on.
        On the topic of the WTO in artillery.
        One guided projectile replaces 50 to 100 regular projectiles.
        Moreover, at a firing range of over 30 km, an ordinary, unguided projectile is completely useless. Just plow the fields. The spread is huge.
        Moving on.
        1. To produce 50 shells instead of one, you need:
        5 times more production capacity. Not only machine tools and turners, but also drivers in factories, storekeepers, cleaners, machine tool adjusters ...
        Mining 50 times more ore and coal, smelting 50 times more steel, spending 50 times more fuel and electricity.
        Here the shells hit the army.
        Warehouse area is 50 times larger.
        Perimeter security is 10 times greater.
        There are 15-25 times more cars and drivers to carry these shells. Fuel for these transports, which are as many times large. Such columns with shells need to be covered by large defense outfits.
        The air defense system, in order to cover these warehouses, also needs more tangibly.
        And these air defense systems are not taken from nowhere, they also need to be produced in advance, along the entire production chain.
        Moving on.
        The barrel resource of 152mm is in reality not much more than 1000 shots.
        And already after 300, the barrel begins to deform and introduce distortions.
        In general, if you really count, then the WTO brings the state exorbitant savings in fact.
        Beyond.
        Not only money, but freed up resources that can be redirected to other areas.
        It's like comparing 100000 bookkeepers and 1 computer, and the computer will still be faster.
        
        ABC-schutze 16 July 2023 22: 15
        
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        And by the way, dear "teacher" ...
        
        Kyiv bandero-natsiks do not attack in "small groups" the advanced defensive formations of the Russian Armed Forces from "a distance of 30 kilometers." Is this news to you?
        
        And if not, then why are you here, in the context of the WTO, stubbornly bombarding the portal with platitudes, such as "one guided projectile replaces 50 - 100 conventional projectiles" and even mentioning "at a distance of 30 km"? .. There is not enough intelligence to understand that if we talk about increasing the effectiveness of mass-produced weapons at the tactical level on the LAN, where the parties are at a distance of 500 m 5 km from each other, how more relevant is it to raise the question of developing the strike potential of such weapons as TOS? .. And equipment, containers with improved ammunition of this kind, tactical aviation? ..
        
        In short, as a "projector", I naively believed that all this was possible for you "in short," to explain with a simple reference to the difference between the concepts of "urgent" and "important" ... Alas, yes, here I really turned out to be a real projector .. .
        
        And the SNB and the Internal Affairs of Russia, "just in case", just in the context of strategic goal-setting, after all, read it. And preferably, not "for the coming dream", as we say the Combined Arms Regulations ...
      2. SovAr238A 16 July 2023 17: 47
        
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        No, that's about it, I just "forget" will not in any case. And you, for starters, decide what you are talking about ...
        
        About "today", i.e. about the tactical situation on the front line?.. Or about the strategy, i.e. about the IMPACT potential, OBJECTIVELY MOST needed by the Russian Armed Forces in the medium term, for the irreversible achievement of the goal of the NMD and the irreversible solution of its two main tasks? "curators" of the Kiev big top. Including the possibility of the latter providing their territory, for basing carriers of weapons of destruction transferred in the future (and already today ...) to the Kyiv Bandero-Natsiks, for delivering strikes against the Russian Armed Forces and its territory? ..
        
        Those. Are you talking about "urgent" or "important"? .. Or "about this and that" at once? .. Then excuse me. "Identical" recipes immediately "for both cases", by definition, cannot be ...
        
        You should get a system of planning and goal setting.
        When the goal is formed, then ways are sought to achieve it, the required resources, opportunities, competitive environment, and actions of other parties are calculated.
        Based on this, defragmentation into subgoals (reference points) is made and also a calculation is made to achieve them.
        And if at least one parameter (resources, deadlines, competitive environment, finances, people, competence) does not allow achieving the goal, this is considered not a project, but a project.
        The strategy is no longer working.
        
        We need to fix what is missing first.
        
        We have nothing in regard to Danzig. What could come true.
        
        Therefore, you are stupid, projector.
        And stop talking nonsense about strategy, you have never implemented a single project in your life.
        And the army has absolutely the same mechanisms for managing and setting goals, and achieving goals, like everything else in this world.
        Just the terms are different.
        
        ABC-schutze 16 July 2023 21: 55
        
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        Thank you for the cabinet-"theoretical" educational program, in the format characteristic of you on this branch of "general watering" ...
        
        Alas, I, as a "projector", will express myself more clearly and briefly ...
        
        Firstly, I do not need to "receive" either a planning system or a goal-setting system. Most likely you wanted to write "learn" (principles), instead of "get", but the first time you did not succeed ...
        
        The second ...
        
        As for the "goals", they are ALWAYS dictated (that's right...) by the OBJECTIVE NEEDS of ensuring the development and security of the SUBJECT (which can be played by both the state and a "specific person"). These needs are OBJECTIVE, and COMPLETELY DO NOT DEPEND on whether the subject has a system of goal-setting and planning. And whether he owns the scientific principles of building such systems. As well as whether the subject himself is aware of these OBJECTIVE needs ...
        
        He doesn't realize, so he dies in the end...
        
        Third ...
        
        Behind this, in the context of Russia, as a state, THE GOAL IS FOREVER, ONE and ONLY, - to ensure PERMANENT, LONG-TERM and SAFE DEVELOPMENT ...
        
        In the context of the SVO, then its very beginning and course are ALREADY DIRECTED to achieve what you call a "sub-goal", i.e. ENSURING SECURITY (primarily military) BY REMOVING REAL and GROWING THREATS to the development and national interests of Russia from the Western and South-Western direction. I emphasize, not "risks", but threats (the difference between the first and second ones will be explained to you at the lecture ...).
        
        FOURTH...
        
        Optimal development (otherwise for Russia - "unnecessarily"...) is possible only in a SAFE ENVIRONMENT (environment). Why are TASKS already set and solved - strategic, operational, tactical, to achieve the put forward GOAL (or some "subgoals", at each of the stages and directions of achieving the MAIN AND ONLY goal). By the way, from your kind explanations, as a "projector", I am somehow not convinced that you have learned the fundamental difference in the concept of "goal" and "task" ...
        
        The goal cannot be achieved only if: if the subject ITSELF is not aware of the OBJECTIVE needs of its development, if it refuses to achieve the set goal, and if the subject, for one reason or another, ceases to exist ...
        
        In ALL OTHER cases, one can only talk about "postponing" the achievement of the goal, but not about its "unattainability" ...
        
        Just in case... Peter the Great, THE OBJECTIVE NEEDS OF DEVELOPMENT OF RUSSIA WAS AWARE, although, unlike you, he did not master the scientific principles of building a system of goal-setting and planning. And if he had such "advisers" - armchair "theorists" like you, Russia's breakthrough to a leading position in the world (and then Europe was like that) would have ended forever, at the stage of the "first Narva" ...
        
        Well, what is the "reachability" of the goal or the "window to Europe" for a state with an army without its officers (at all levels), without a fleet, without an organized rear - weapons, food, tailoring of uniforms, in short, without the economy necessary to achieve the goal? ..
        
        Behind this, it is in the context of Danzig, as well as Paris, Washington and other "Tokyos", that Russia (thanks to the USSR) already LONG (and not "now) has EVERYTHING. But this potential also needs to be CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVED and INCREASED. And - PRIORITY ...
        
        If you, in the context of the latter, have student doubts, then I strongly recommend for a while to digress from desk theorizing with building goal-setting and planning systems and reading the relevant "educational programs" on the VO portal and familiarize yourself with the content of the NSS of Russia and its Military Doctrine. And also, SCIENTIFICLY designated in these conceptual documents of a STRATEGIC nature PRIORITIES in the development of the types of forces of the Russian Armed Forces, in the framework of solving the TASK OF ENSURING THE MILITARY SECURITY of the country ...
        
        As for the solution of the TACTICAL task - to increase the equipment of the Russian Armed Forces with modern, SERIAL models of weapons and military equipment on the battlefield. Then it is ALREADY SUCCESSFULLY SOLVED with an UNBREAKING GROWTH OF RELEASE TEPS, by the way ...
        
        And enough for you, with the provincial aplomb of a know-it-all, to chat about the "absence" of something there that will not allow Russia to achieve the goal of the NWO and solve its main tasks. As well as about Russia's lack of a strategic (and not necessarily "nuclear"...) "muzzle and strict collar" for Danzig, Berlin, London and other "Washingtons".
        
        Neither I, nor "even" you, nor the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, nor the Ministry of Defense, nor the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, nor the Security Council are included. Yes, they are not included in their "waiting rooms" ...
        
        Behind this, if it doesn’t make it difficult, precisely in order to ensure objectivity, try to supply your sour statements about the “absence” of something “not allowing” there, with clarifications that this is nothing more than your personal opinion. Based mainly on "cabinet" representations ...
3. zxc15682 16 July 2023 13: 55
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  This is a camping bunk that launches into the sky.
4. Krasavchag2 17 July 2023 02: 56
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  The military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation must build up high-precision weapons at any cost
  Rumata, don't be shy, build up! Yes, at any cost.
Ezekiel 25-17 16 July 2023 13: 18
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It's time to start using the Coalition for counter-battery combat.
1. SovAr238A 16 July 2023 14: 28
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  It's time to start using the Coalition for counter-battery combat.
  
  Not tired yet?
  There is no coalition.
  Do you understand or not?
  There is none other than those in the form of a pair of copies built by hand. And standing on the landfills.
  And several models that were driven through the parades.
  In reality, there is no Coalition, although in the amount of 10 pieces.
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    Wikipedia about the subject:
    In December 2019, the general director of Uraltransmash announced that the first experimental batch of 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV had been manufactured and was ready for transfer to the troops. Given the small batch of already produced cars that participated in the parade, it was possible that they were the first cars in a fully serial appearance.
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The second stage of the offensive, it looks like the Scheme, like last time - first, an aggravation in the Artyomovsky direction, then in Zaporozhye.

As in the first time at Artyomovsky, for the most part they fought back. In Zaporozhye, too, the effect of surprise did not work out.

God forbid the guys survive with a minimum of losses!
LeutnantTom 16 July 2023 13: 27
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Is there an operational military reconnaissance satellite, If yes, find out the exact location/starting points from where the enemy launches his attacks.
then use Russian cluster munitions. Then there will be no more enemy attacks for a long time! Best on all enemy starting points. It must be so powerful that the Ukrainians capitulate.
Don't forget, the Ukrainians used this cluster munition twice this week.
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  the exact location/starting points from where the enemy starts his attacks.
  
  What can be the exact place where the steppe is lined with forest plantations. They move around forest plantations, attack in groups from them. If you hit with cassettes, then comb all frontline forest belts. They say that we have a lot of this good.
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    They move through forest plantations
    Burn out. Now the summer is hot, the forest will burn out like matches. Then a new one will grow.
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      They move through forest plantations
      Burn out. Now the summer is hot, the forest will burn out like matches. Then a new one will grow.
      
      If it could burn, it would already have blazed from some art. shelling.
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Meanwhile, ours are forced to leave the front line of defense, which they held for a month and a half. The active use of artillery on both sides destroyed the fortifications, it is reported about the "plowed" positions of the Russian army.

And it is right. The meaning of defense is in the advantage of the position, which allows you to take exorbitant prices from the advancing blood. If the advantage (for any reason) is lost, then one should not hold on to the position. Moreover, there are others behind the first line of defense.
Good luck to ours, come back alive!
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  And it is right. The meaning of defense is in the advantage of the position, which allows you to take exorbitant prices from the advancing blood. If the advantage (for any reason) is lost, then one should not hold on to the position. Moreover, there are others behind the first line of defense.
  
  Yes, but there is no longer any dispute about Makarovka whose she is under x-lami. It is broken in a vruhu, but somewhere they are hiding there.
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    Yes, but there is no longer any dispute about Makarovka whose she is under x-lami.
    
    So what?
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    It's broken in vain, but somewhere they're hiding there
    
    And surely bear heavy losses under fire
Volunteer Marek 16 July 2023 13: 37
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... the enemy throws more and more forces into battle, not paying attention to losses ... They are cloned there, or what? Where do these endless additions come from? Or are the losses of Bandera's followers lower than they tell us? How do they manage to recruit and keep so many people under arms? How do you manage to maintain their fighting, morale? With weapons, like rvz, everything is clear.
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  Yes, just like in the First World War to the warring countries, as well as in the Second World War in Germany - after all, they did not run up to the very end ...
  
  And in the NWO, the losses and the army are still far from the number of these in the world wars
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  Are they cloned there?
  
  Unlike us, they have total mobilization, and weapons are supplied in large quantities from the West.
  Or are the losses of Bandera's followers lower than they tell us?
  
  In most cases, "divide the enemy's announced losses by three." Old military wisdom.
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  Quote: Volunteer Marek
  ... the enemy throws more and more forces into battle, not paying attention to losses ... They are cloned there, or what? Where do these endless additions come from? Or are the losses of Bandera's followers lower than they tell us? How do they manage to recruit and keep so many people under arms? How do you manage to maintain their fighting, morale? With weapons, like rvz, everything is clear.
  
  Morale is just fine with them.
  They REALLY BELIEVE that they are defeating us!.
  That they will tear Russia to pieces.
  That Putin will be destroyed or convicted as a criminal.
  Look at YouTube videos of Panchenko, who fled Ukraine from persecution by the authorities, with surveys of ordinary people.
  Their opinion about the war, about Russia...
  Much will become clear.
  Especially the fact that on the other side, the enemy is much more motivated than us...
  And his morale is very strong.
  Therefore, the rod is like a psychic ...
5. Rome 16 July 2023 14: 53
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  Kyiv is constantly mobilizing the population, replenishing losses and building up reserves + NATO is constantly recruiting around the world! We manage with contract workers and partially mobilized! I don’t know how the Kremlin expects to win, but certainly not by numbers, not by military technical superiority, do they really rely on skills?
  1. Al manah 16 July 2023 22: 37
    
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    Do they count on skills?
    
    No, to Minsk-3.
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    The Kremlin expects to lose. Why do they need our victory? The true goal of Svo is to return everything back to how it was before Svo. So the army fights on its own while politicians make deals and make goodwill gestures.
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  This is for the press service of the Moscow Region. There are accurate calculations for the second (or third?) Circle.
rocket757 16 July 2023 13: 54
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Artillery rolls...
Now the question is ... who will run out of this resource faster, in general.
Whatever it says, it helps us a lot that our ancestors made big badges for the future!!!
It’s good to talk about any high-precision, modern, when it is, and so, not a single barrel is superfluous on the battlefield, let it be fifty years old ... if it is in good condition, there is ammunition for it, then it will say its word, essential ...
Counter battery struggle ... there are not one, two methods, you must use everything that is.
1. Wer best do 17 July 2023 12: 17
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  A weapon is of no use if it misses its target.
Amateur 16 July 2023 14: 03
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It seems that the most fierce battles in this SVO (Strange Military Operation) are between the "Arbat Military District" and the army in the field.
According to telegram channels, another military general has been removed from command and sent to Syria.
Major General Vladimir Seliverstov was removed from his post as commander of the 106th Guards. Airborne Division of the Airborne Forces
Sid2014 16 July 2023 14: 23
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So, slowly, slowly, with heavy losses, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will reach Tokmak, and then further... Our losses are not small, but the courts, due to the fact that we purged the top commanders, disbanded the most combat-ready unit. Not everything is as rosy as reported.
1. Al manah 16 July 2023 22: 43
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  Stop discrediting us, everything is fine with us, if it were bad, then Lieutenant General Konashenkov would definitely say about it, but he reads positive reports all the time, which means we are definitely winning. The commanders are cleaned out for the good of the army - they separate the grain from the chaff, the city from the village, men from women, flies from cutlets, etc.
ugos 16 July 2023 14: 26
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There hasn’t been any ledge there for a long time, they’ve been cut off for a long time, now they are trying to make a hollow, that is, to wedge into the defense.
sub307 16 July 2023 14: 32
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Quote: Volunteer Marek
... the enemy throws more and more forces into battle, not paying attention to losses ... They are cloned there, or what? Where do these endless additions come from? Or are the losses of Bandera's followers lower than they tell us? How do they manage to recruit and keep so many people under arms? How do you manage to maintain their fighting, morale? With weapons, like rvz, everything is clear.

.... and no one in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is in a hurry to "showdown" in Kyiv ..., following the example of our "Wagnerites" ..., probably "everything is fine" there. A. Yeshe ... something from Putin's lexicon began to disappear about the "fraternal people", following the evaporated "partners".
1. ugos 16 July 2023 14: 40
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  But they are already openly saying that the people are not supposed to know everything:
  ''What are our next tasks? the journalist asks.
  
  I will tell you this separately when the cameras are turned off. - Putin.''
Uno 16 July 2023 14: 44
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Ukrainian resources have nothing to do with this news, it is Russian sources who write about the capture of Staromayorsky. In particular, Romanov writes about this.
Soldatov V. 16 July 2023 15: 07
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According to official data, we have about 4 thousand MLRS Hurricane and Tornado at storage bases. Why are they not at the front? They destroy from 0,6 to 1 hectare of enemy positions. Why is there no mass use of one hundred or two hundred MLRS or more at a time. Why aren't 500-1000 tanks used at once to break through the front. Why are superbombs not used in 10-20 tons of TNT. What are we afraid of? Colonel-generals are afraid to get dirty, and what if it doesn't work out. Or maybe because they are millionaires in stripes.
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2. Alexey Sommer 16 July 2023 19: 40
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  Because now, as in the Great Patriotic War, it is impossible to fight.
  Because UAVs and satellites have changed the tactics of combat radically.
  Because for 500 ATGM tanks, 2000 units, like 2 fingers on asphalt, will nullify this entire armada.
  Because today the Hymers are hunting for every mortar, it’s really not an exaggeration, but a large compound will be discovered even before it is assembled.
  Because 500 tanks means 5000 supply vehicles that will be discovered and destroyed before the tanks get there.
  Because the Armed Forces of Ukraine will simply carry out remote mining in front of them, they do it no worse than us.
  And many, many more because.
  Do you really not understand this?
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    Miracles don't happen. The way both sides are now waging war is marking time, albeit heroic.
    Two hundred Smerch MLRS can make such a carpet for an offensive that you can’t imagine better. Yes, there will be losses, but I think not fatal. Even without disguise, try to destroy 500-1000 tanks covered by army air defense and escorted columns. How many hymers are there? 50 pieces, no more, already now 90% of the missiles are destroyed in the air, so they began to use them on the front line.
    Before the offensive, reconnaissance reveal the location of the Hymers, the accumulation of troops and air defense, and strike at them with all types of missiles and aircraft. The Armed Forces of Ukraine will carry out mining no worse than us, which I am not sure about, and we are smarter and we have glorious centuries-old military traditions.
    After all, we won both the war with Finland and WWII.
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  Yes, hectares are perfectly destroyed without them - the entire Donbass is in lunar landscapes. And it would be necessary not to destroy the hectares of the enemy, but his troops.
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When will we find a normal politician who will be listened to and believed in Ukraine???
Who will be able to clearly tell both Ukrainians and Belarusians, and everyone who still remembers the USSR, that together it is easier to build a house and protect their land.
That besides a neighbor who does not like, there are enemies. Who didn’t break the fence after a binge, but plant their own (alien for us) religion, establish their own rules of life, treat their patients, testing new medicines on our relatives ...
1. Kronos 16 July 2023 16: 45
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  Why should they build it together with Russia when there is exactly the same capitalism with the oligarchs?
2. Commissar Kitten 17 July 2023 07: 42
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  Nobody can do this anymore. What happened cannot be attributed to hard drinking, and the thousands of dead are not a fence.
Prokop_Pork 16 July 2023 16: 24
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A natural question arises: why only Russian? why weren't the Urinian positions destroyed and they were not forced to leave them?
Warrior_II_digit 16 July 2023 18: 47
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From Podoliaki:
The main one for today, as before, remains the Zaporozhye direction, where the enemy, even having lost faith in the possibility of reaching the coast of the Sea of Azov, does not stop local attempts to move forward.

For several days in a row, he attacks in the Velikonovoselovsky direction, where he managed to take several of our positions on the heights the day before, and at night he tried to build on his success by attacking the settlement. Staromayorskoe. This attack was repulsed, but the enemy, having felt a weakness (and this is the junction of the zone of responsibility of 5A and the Kaskad OBTF), continues his attempts.

Unfortunately, it is worth noting that our 5A, as before, slowly but backs away. And it was on its sector that the enemy achieved at least some success in the first month and a half of the counteroffensive (in total, he pushed through our defenses by 7-10 km and actually cut off the so-called Vremevsky ledge).

Meanwhile, in the defense zone 58A (Kamensky and Orekhovsky sections), the enemy has not yet made serious attacks.

Such “gladiators” by Ivan Popov taught them to respect themselves in a month and a half)))

Источник: https://podolyaka.ru/yuriy-podolyaka-zaporozhskoe-napravlenie-obstanovka-na-15-00-16-07-23/
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  Such “gladiators” by Ivan Popov taught them to respect themselves in a month and a half)))
  
  For this, Popov was removed by those who work clearly for whom.
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  Commander of the 5th OVA, Major General Bolgarev, Petr Nikolaevich:
  
  The main task in 2023 for the personnel of the 5th Combined Arms Army will be the high-quality performance of tasks as part of the Special Military Operation in Ukraine.
  
  In 2022, formations and military units of the 5th OVA stationed in the Trans-Baikal Territory took the leading place among the combined arms formations of the Eastern Military District based on the results of daily activities.
  
  Yuriy Podolyaka:
  Unfortunately, it is worth noting that our 5A, as before, slowly but backs away. And it was on its sector that the enemy achieved at least some success in the first month and a half of the counteroffensive (in total, he pushed through our defenses by 7-10 km and actually cut off the so-called Vremevsky ledge).
  
  [u[Briefly about the commander of 5A[/u]
  
  Everyone knows the legendary 150th division, whose battle flag is considered the Banner of Victory.
  
  After the war, the heroic unit was disbanded. In 2016, it was restored and the well-deserved honorary titles were returned - the 150th Idritsko-Berlin Order of Kutuzov II degree division.
  
  Major General Bolgarev became the commander of the revived illustrious 150th motorized rifle division.
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But the Chief said that the counteroffensive had failed and had already been archived. Dot. And it's like that. . .